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December 2019
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Good evening, I just received this message. And I appreciate it. I've been on Wikipedia since 2016 and I've never been accused of missing neutrality. I am very clear about the difference between my opinions and the work that needs to be done on this portal. In addition, the topics you mentioned are not particularly in my interest in editing, nor have I worked on them. Don't worry. Greetings and a lot of health. Alsoriano97 (talk) 20:11 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Dantheanimator, I'm Dominican, the president-elect begins his duties on August 16, 2020, not on July 6, 2020, that's how it has always been in my country, for now Luis Abinader is president-elect, not constitutional president, the current president is still Danilo Medina until August 16, 2020, I ask you kindly don't undo my edits in the article, or I will denounce you for vandalism.--Oli (talk) 01:30, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
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Judging notability
I wish there was some kind of universal standard we could employ to judge whether an event is notable enough, particularly years after the fact. Was the Falujiah incident notable? I think it very much depends on which political side you're on. It certainly is one of several reasons Hillary Clinton isn't President. The Beltway snipers were certainly notable in their year, but are they still notable? I dunno. How many people have to die before a disaster becomes notable? Serendipodous 18:20, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Serendipodous: thanks for messaging me about this and sorry for the very late reply. I somewhat agree with you about notability. When I was removing events I was only considering their death toll/amount of causalities. For the Falujiah incident (I think you meant the 2012 Benghazi attack), you're right, it is definitely notable in the U.S. and to some extent in the world. For the Beltway snipers event though, I still believe it should not be included. Many shootings occur in the U.S. and many of them are not included on this list (both the 2019 Dayton shooting and 2019 El Paso shooting got significant media coverage at the time but aren't on this list). For U.S. shootings, the death toll takes more precedence and in this case (17 dead and 10 wounded), I don't think it's notable enough for the page. I think a general rule for inclusion should be if the event is mentioned on the decades page (in this case the 2010s page). Usually the lede contains a good number of events that are generally considered notable. I'm not that familiar with Timeline in century pages so if my understanding is wrong, please tell me. We all make mistakes. :) Dan the Animator 16:17, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
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Rules?
At your Arbcom filing you say, "User Calmecac5 has repeatedly ignored the formatting rules of Year in Country pages". I'm unaware of any such rules. Could you link me to them? Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- forked content from the normal Year page, so they should retain the majority of the same formatting as the parent article (the Year page). Examples of Year in Country pages (for this year) with correct formatting include 2020 in the United States, 2020 in the United Kingdom, and 2020 in Ireland. Hope this helps and really sorry for the late reply, Dan the Animator 22:20, 7 October 2020 (UTC)]
- Also regarding Calmecac5's editing, they have added multiple deaths to the Year in Country pages in the RD format while they should be in the Year format (see the "Deaths section" section). Dan the Animator 22:26, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- I can see that the date formatting delineated in MOS is a "rule", but you need to be aware that standards established by a wikiproject such as consensus policy:
- > Consensus among a limited group of editors, at one place and time, cannot override community consensus on a wider scale. For instance, unless they can convince the broader community that such action is right, participants in a policy and guideline proposal process, thus have no more status than an essay.
- > Consensus among a limited group of editors, at one place and time, cannot override community consensus on a wider scale. For instance, unless they can convince the broader community that such action is right, participants in a
- And then from the guideline):
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- Thus, the standards given on the WikiProject Years page are not rules. And since they're not rules, it would be improper page ownershipto revert changes on a page because the "rules" have not been followed or to accuse someone (particularly, but not only, a newcomer) of violating those rules.
- I don't know if that's happened in your dealings with Calmecac5, your accusations of him violating the rules may only be in reference to the date formatting set by MOS. But since it was mentioned several times that you needed, procedurally, to file a complaint at boomerang sanction there if you've stepped over a line. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:11, 8 October 2020 (UTC)]
- Hi ownership. Would this be considered page ownership and other similar actions like it? Also, would it be considered page ownership if I brought these issues up on the respective talk pages? Many thanks for informing of this and sorry for any troubles. Best regards, Dan the Animator 20:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)]
- I didn't dig deeply into that, but it doesn't seem to me to be ownership on first blush. Proposing stuff on an article talk page in an attempt to achieve consensus about it is the antithesis of ownership. Ownership generally turns on attempts to repress other editors unfairly, either by domination or by misrepresentation. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 22:00, 8 October 2020 (UTC)]
- Oh I see what you mean. So if I just open a talk page discussion for each individual issue and wait a few days and if no one opposes I can go forward with my edits. This is what I think your saying but I can be completely wrong. If this isn't, please let me know. Thank you again TransporterMan for taking the time to explain this to me, I appreciate it. Dan the Animator 00:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- I would just add that I've tried many, many times to get the conventions for Year pages agreed and have always failed to achieve consensus - usually not because people don't want to prune the long lists of Births and Deaths or don't agree that they make the Year and Day articles unmanageably long, but because they can't agree how to do so. So I've ended up having to work on individual pages. User:Toddst1 introduced a new guideline for DOTY pages to make referencing mandatory, which at first I disagreed with, but I think this is probably the way forward for these articles. Deb (talk) 07:20, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oh I see what you mean. So if I just open a talk page discussion for each individual issue and wait a few days and if no one opposes I can go forward with my edits. This is what I think your saying but I can be completely wrong. If this isn't, please let me know. Thank you again TransporterMan for taking the time to explain this to me, I appreciate it. Dan the Animator 00:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't dig deeply into that, but it doesn't seem to me to be ownership on first blush. Proposing stuff on an article talk page in an attempt to achieve consensus about it is the antithesis of ownership.
- Hi
- I can see that the date formatting delineated in MOS is a "rule", but you need to be aware that standards established by a wikiproject such as
- Also regarding Calmecac5's editing, they have added multiple deaths to the Year in Country pages in the RD format while they should be in the Year format (see the "Deaths section" section). Dan the Animator 22:26, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- I cannot express my gratitude and gratefulness for all the effort you put into explaining my error to me. Thank you TransporterMan! Many thanks to you too Deb for your helpful comment. I know I am writing this message nearly two months after you both replied back to me, and a lot has changed since then. Considering that, I will not be able to contribute to Wikipedia anymore for a long while. Maybe we'll both pass each other in the distant future on some page when times are better? Regardless, thank you TransporterMan for your extraordinary help, and thank you Deb for your comment. Hope you both are doing well, Dan the Animator 01:41, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- You're very welcome. I hope your pause in editing is not caused by something bad but instead by something that gives you benefit or joy. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Thanks TransporterMan and Ktin for the support. This school year has been much more difficult (and less joyful) than the last one so it has been difficult to find time to edit. Regardless, I hope that all is well with you both. Also, happy new year! Warmly, Dan the Animator 19:56, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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- You're very welcome. I hope your pause in editing is not caused by something bad but instead by something that gives you benefit or joy. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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- @Lord Bolingbroke: I wrote a message about this on your talk page. Do you want me to reply here or there? (I'm fine with replying here if you don't want it on your talk page). Dan the Animator 19:22, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 1991. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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- @Elizium23: I'm not sure if you realise this but your being really disrespectful. Your rollback edit was unwarranted since the only edit you meant to revert was on 19:02 UTC, May 29, 2021. I'm not sure if this was intentional or accidental but please avoid using rollbacks when they aren't necessary (as was here). Your use of the minor edit tag is also inappropriate and please read the instructions on its use. I also put those links on the top of my talk page for a reason, so please read them. Thanks. Dan the Animator 18:22, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Elizium23: According to the page you linked, rollback edits are for "vandalism." This suggests that you think that might edit was vandalism, which completely violates WP:AGF. Could you please explain why you thought this before I jump to any conclusions? Dan the Animator 18:29, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Elizium23 hmmm. It seems you put the red warning template on my page AFTER I self-reverted my edit. You need to give editors a little bit of time to actually self-revert. I think this might be a misunderstanding of when to use rollback vs. revert. You know when to use each right? Dan the Animator 18:33, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Elizium23: I apologise if that's the impression I'm giving you. I just want to resolve this misunderstanding and ensure that valuable edits (like the intermediate edits that you reverted) are not unintentionally removed from wikipedia. We are all here to build this encyclopedia so lets work together, not against, each other. Dan the Animator 18:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also accusing someone of "misrepresenting events" is going a bit too far. Dan the Animator 18:47, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Elizium23: Can you please tell me that you know the difference between reverts and rollbacks and what it is. We shouldn't be disagreeing on something objective like this so lets resolve this. Dan the Animator 18:56, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- The rollback feature allows rollbackers to revert edits, and it can definitely be used for more than blatant vandalism. Please assume good faith, especially if you're going to tell others to do the same. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 17:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)]
- I did, which is why I asked them and tried to resolve the misunderstanding (because it was a misunderstanding, not an intentional mistake). This is old and anyone interested can see my diff-filled explanation of what happened. Dan the Animator 23:25, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- The rollback feature allows rollbackers to revert edits, and it can definitely be used for more than blatant vandalism. Please
- @Elizium23: Can you please tell me that you know the difference between reverts and rollbacks and what it is. We shouldn't be disagreeing on something objective like this so lets resolve this. Dan the Animator 18:56, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also accusing someone of "misrepresenting events" is going a bit too far. Dan the Animator 18:47, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Elizium23: According to the page you linked, rollback edits are for "vandalism." This suggests that you think that might edit was vandalism, which completely violates WP:AGF. Could you please explain why you thought this before I jump to any conclusions? Dan the Animator 18:29, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Stub sorting
Hey, Dan! Just a quick friendly note: when creating a lot of stubs, it's helpful to use a specific stub template rather than the generic {{Stub}}
template, which just leaves it for someone else to fix later on. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting for some more info on that – thanks! Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 17:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Bsoyka for fixing the templates on the Gabon pages! I don't really know the different stub types too well so it's difficult to know which ones exist and what they're called. Thanks for the link though: I found this page which has a list of most stub types which I think I'll use for future pages. Sorry again for the mistake. Dan the Animator 20:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Namibia Articles
Hi Dan, we used to bump into each other on ITN a few months back, hope you are keeping well. I was going through new pages feed and saw some of your articles - most were fine but 2014 and 2010 both have refereneces to The Namibian that bring me to the main landing page of the news outlet rather than the story they are being used to reference, can you check this out please - I'll go back over them and mark as reviewed in a while if they are not already done by another reviewer. Keep up the good work and have a great Sunday JW 1961 Talk 17:19, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hey JW 1961, it's nice to hear from you again! I think I fixed the mistakes with both pages but for the 2014 page I didn't see any The Namibian source, so I took out the Business Day source which was also giving a link problem. If there's any other issues with my new or old pages, just give me a heads-up and I'll be happy to fix them. Also hope everything's going well at ITN. Dan the Animator 17:44, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Dantheanimator, I just go to ITN about once a week nowadays, spending time creating a few stubs and reviewing new pages (not as much negativity there) I'll go back and check mark those articles you fixed and thanks again JW 1961 Talk 17:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Dan the Animator, you've done a great job of creating citations for (almost) all deaths on March 24. But can you please look at the citation you've put in for Harun al-Rashid? It just shows up in the References section as "Bosworth 1995, pp. 385-386." with no link to this book. Cheers, Kiwipete (talk) 01:33, 11 December 2021 (UTC)