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DYK nomination of Poppy Factory

Hi, I've reviewed your nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Poppy Factory and noted a couple of issues. Letting you know so you can fix them; should be a quick fix. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Poppy Factory

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Ask yourself, in an article about hotels, do we want the word "hotel" to be upper-case when it is used as a generic noun? Do we say that because we have a phrase such as the Savoy Hotel that all mentions of hotel should be upper-case? Ericoides (talk) 09:47, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Well done for getting that DYK through, it was great for that Remembrance Sunday! I've had a look at the articles you suggested - your contributions are excellent. I would say, if you're looking at getting

Royal British Legion Poppy Factory?". Let me know - I can always give you a hand with this. Cheers, Zangar (talk) 16:21, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Thanks - particularly for your help (and
Talk:Poppy factory
has taken the shine off it a bit for me.
Thanks also for the suggestion, but I'm not interested in nominating
George Arthur Howson for DYK. If you have access to the source, I'd be grateful if you would let me know if I have done a good enough job at trying to separate the article from the original prose. (If/when I have time, I will also do Sir Frederick Lister.[1]) -- Ferma (talk) 18:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Agnew

Thanks for many good amendments. However, please will you remove the wikilinks you've added in quotations. I think it's bonkers, but our MOS mandates that wikilinks cannot be included in quotes and as this is now a featured article, we have to stick very closely to MOS. Thanks again --Dweller (talk) 20:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Really?
Wikipedia:MOSQUOTE#Linking
- which is a guideline, so can have exceptions - says: As much as possible, avoid linking from within quotes, which may clutter the quotation, violate the principle of leaving quotations unchanged, and mislead or confuse the reader. If there are sensible wikilinks to make, which do not "clutter" the quotation or change its meaning or mislead the reader, then why leave them out?
Before my most recent edit to the article, there were already a few links in quotes:
  • "the only son of Mr and Mrs Norris M. Agnew of Dukenfield Hall, Mobberley, Cheshire"
  • "youngest daughter of Mr and Mrs A.F.V. McConnell of Hampton Hall, Worthen, Shropshire"
  • "He struck the captain, Mike Brearley, a nasty blow in the face..."
  • and "
    blackwash
    " had scare quotes.
The first two are in running text, rather than a blockquote: is that ok/better? If the rule of thumb is "as much as possible, avoid", then they could all be left out; I am also not entirely convinced by the scare quotes anyway, and the article seem to have a rather hearvy use of quotes for clear statements of fact or opinion - for example, aged "eight or nine" or describing him as "hysterical" - which could be done indirectly, as reported speech, without quotes. But I think almost all of these links are helpful, with the possible exception of Shropshire.
To be clear, I added links in quotes for
And I should have added one for Spiro Agnew too.
Most of these only appear once in the article and the links all add value for the reader, I think (the other "off stump" is in another quotation; perhaps the Today link could come out as it is referred to later). A reader who is not a cricket afficionado might wonder what an off stump is, and why it might be "despatched halfway towards the Leicestershire wicket-keeper", or what LBW means, or like to find some more background to understand better the cast of characters are who are referred to in the quotes. But look, it is "your" article, so feel free to strip out the links if you think it would help the reader. -- Ferma (talk) 18:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's an FA, we have to stick firmly to MOS or have a really exceptional reason why not. If there were links in quotes before, I'll need to prune them out, sigh. Thanks. On the bigger picture, I'd love to get the MOS changed, because I think it's daft. --Dweller (talk) 19:02, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have to?
"If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.". But feel free to revert if you are so inclined. -- Ferma (talk) 19:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Good job.

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Nice work on those redirect pages to Williamson pink diamond! Keep up the good work. Math321 (talk) 18:40, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for adding this link on the Dean of St Asaph case :). Ironholds (talk) 13:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome.
A brother of a Prime Minister sounded like an interesting chap to research. I had a go at the Dean himself a while ago. -- Ferma (talk) 22:17, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Elsie Widdowson

Ferma, I notice that you expanded Elsie Widdowson five-fold. Are you going to submit a DYK nomination? RockMagnetist (talk) 16:43, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't planning to: it wasn't exactly a pleasant experience the last time I tried that. But feel free to go ahead if you wish. -- Ferma (talk) 17:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Too late - the 5 days have run out. Sorry you haven't had a pleasant experience with it - so far my experiences have been pretty good. RockMagnetist (talk) 17:29, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There is a backlog of nomination at
T:TDYK running through October and September to mid/late August so I doubt anyone would object if you wanted to add one more, but I have no real opinion either way. -- Ferma (talk) 17:39, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Apologies for my rather heavy-handed treatment of some of your edits. As you will see, Zong massacre is on the front page today, and so I was keen to get everything properly formatted and sourced in time. Celuici (talk) 08:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I have been a bit slow in replying. No problem. It is a great article. -- Ferma (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry Hadley

Thank you for your fascinating additions to Henry Hadley (died 1914). It's always a bonus, when writing a new article for Wikipedia, to learn from what others can uncover. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:15, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. An interesting footnote to history. I wonder if Richard van Emden knows about the Darwin connection. -- Ferma (talk) 18:42, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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