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Hick Hargreaves advert

Moved to File talk:Hick Hargreaves and Co. Ltd. advert.jpg#Non-free use in B. Hick and Sons
 – As previously suggested below, the best place to continue this discussion is on the file's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for clarifying the reasons for questioning the use of this image [1]. I'll have another look at the rationale etc and see if I can get it to fit. Regards Rstory (talk) 08:54, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Revised the rationale, please let me know if the present version stands up? Regards Rstory (talk) 09:31, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Ideally, the best place for you to discuss this would be at
WP:NFG; there needs to be quite a strong contextual connection between article content and image, which almost always is seen to be sourced commentary directly about the image itself. -- Marchjuly (talk
) 10:59, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
No misunderstanding, shortcommings and the Template are mentioned on the file page that I addressed. 1 and 8 of the 10 criteria are relevant as stated in the template.
The intention here is definitely not decorative as the image contains encyclopedic examples of power engineering supported by the text contained therein, in other words the image can inform the reader provided the text is legible. Attention is drawn to power engineering in the caption.
The context is clearly Soho Iron Works, generally what they look like, its achievements and what it produces, including this example of publicity material. Caption adjusted accordingly with commentary about the advert. Regards Rstory (talk) 21:39, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

KIAH

The logo completely changed, so the orphan tag was on-purpose and justified.

chatter
) 04:41, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

PD-logo}} per c:COM:TOO United States; so, even if the two versions are significantly different but both are PD, it would've probably still been better to upload the newer version as a separate file. -- Marchjuly (talk
) 06:12, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

On the licenses

Hope the title is good. I think that the best place to respond is on your Commons page, but I find Wikipedia better.

First of all, I hope that my past actions on Commons have not frustrated you. You all of a sudden stopped talking so I'm quite worried. During the time, what I didn't realize was: without admitting mistakes and accepting them, I will become stagnant. I have since improved thanks to you.

I was, initially, scared to admit this, because I feel like the red tags is just not what I love to see, but given that I want to wipe out these mistakes, I would love you to nominate these commons I uploaded: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:QuarantineChat_notification.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antonov_in_Kualanamu.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alexander_IRL_poster.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:12-28-48-artworks-zBSS2EorkK9y94r2-SEJbFA-t500x500.jpg and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ben_Drowns_Again.jpg. And no, before you say anything, I am not being the "fine! fine!" person. Perhaps a speedy delete will be good. I have now understood the dangers of copyright violation based on some of my observations recently.

Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating right now, haha. I hope I am not blockable due to these unintended copyright violations. When I first discovered Wikimedia Commons, I thought of it as just another photo-putting service. In my area, copyrights are usually just some kind of decoration in a work. So I never really knew things like fair use until those nominations.

Anyway, would love to receive a response. GeraldWL 14:28, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't remember off hand having any interaction with you. I'm not trying to be rude; I just don't remember. If I nominated a file of you uploaded to Commons for deletion or review and the issues with it have been resolved, then great. If the file was deleted instead and you have subsequently solved the problem(s) it had and would like it restored, then that's great too. You can ask the Commons administrator who deleted to file to restore it. If there are other files you uploaded that you want deleted, you can start a c:COM:DR for them yourself or you can try tagging them for speedy deletion per c:COM:CSD if they qualify for one of the reasons there.
I'm not sure what you mean by You all of a sudden stopped talking so I'm quite worried. because (once again) I don't remember any discussion we were having; however, if I stopped posting, then it was probably because I felt that the issue had been sufficiently explained or resolved and that no further comments from me were needed. Finally, I'm not an administrator on either Wikipedia or Commons which means I can't block an editor or delete any files/pages; so, if either of those things happened, then I think you'd be better off discussing them with the administrator who actually did such a thing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:43, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
[2] Here's the talk to try remember it. GeraldWL 06:17, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
OK, but according to the link you provided, you were in contact with the copyright holder and they agreed to email their CONSENT to OTRS. There's nothing really to discuss beyond that; either they emailed OTRS or they didn't. I'm not an OTRS volunteer and I can't tell you whether they did. So, if that's what you're trying to find out, then you can try asking at
WP:NFCCP which means it most likely cannot be kept unless the copyright holder's CONSENT can be verified by OTRS. The FFD I started to discuss that file is still open, but that's only because no administrator has gotten around to closing or relisting the discussion. The administrators who typically review FFD might just be waiting to see what happens with the Commons file. -- Marchjuly (talk
) 06:52, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Reverted grammar fixes

@Marchjuly:Hi, I'm Akmaie Ajam. I have two questions for you:

  1. Why a significant portion of my fixes to Wikipedia pages (not any articles, but articles starting with Wikipedia:) are reverted?
  2. Why removing "own" make the text less clear?

When I came across the

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13:59, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi
WT:NFC. Perhaps through such discussion a better version can be agreed upon. -- Marchjuly (talk
) 21:54, 1 September 2020 (UTC); [Note: Post revised by Marchjuly to change articles to pages in the first sentence of the second paragraph as well as to make some other minor corrections. -- 01:44, 4 September 2020 (UTC)]
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00:32, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
WP:ARTICLEs; so, they don't need to necessarily as free from grammar mistakes, etc. as an article might need to be. Wikipedia has many different namespaces and there are different policies and guidelines that apply to each. -- Marchjuly (talk
) 01:05, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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01:17, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

1965 Castrol Drive

Hi MarchJuly and thanks for your comments. As a very new user I am on a very steep learning curve and find navigating around Wikipedia very confusing. However I appreciate your advice which is very helpful. I would like to create an article on the 1965 Castrol Drive because it is a part of motoring history which has little or no presence on the internet. The Parliamentary article I have uploaded does appear in a Google search, but that is all I can find. I was the National winner and the photos I have uploaded were taken by an official photographer on our behalf at the presentation and were given to me personally as a record. As this is 55 years ago I have no record of the actual photographer and I don't believe there are any copyright issues with publication of them. I would appreciate your comments on this aspect because the photos are an historic record of a public event and should be available to the public. If Wikipedia are prepared to publish them I will proceed with preparation of the Article for submission, but it appears sensible to address this aspect first. Thanks again for your help.Farmer Chris 1944 (talk) 05:30, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi
Wikipedia is probably not the place to try and do that. -- Marchjuly (talk
) 11:07, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Farmer Chris 1944, sounds like you might be better served by getting a blog. There are numerous hosting sites that are cost efficient and some that are free (bandwidth is too limited to have many pictures tho). And if your host allows that kind of hyperlinks (not good at html personally) then you might be able to link to photos on Commons. Love your username! John from Idegon (talk) 11:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank

thankyou — Preceding

talk • contribs
) 14:55, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, Marchjuly, for your advice. I have substituted with a homegrown photo. Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 12:53, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome. However, I'm not sure what you mean by "homegrown" photo. Taking a photo of another photo doesn't necessarily make something your "own work". All you seem to have done once again upload
WP:Derivative works and c:COM:DW for more details on this. Basically, copyright of the photo you photographed also needs to be considered. If you're not the copyright holder of the original photo, you can't upload any photos/scans/copies of it to Commons (or Wikipedia) without the consent of the person who is the copyright holder. -- Marchjuly (talk
) 23:27, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Good evening, Marchjuly. I left a message for you in Wikimedia. Sorry. I cut and pasted it here:
Good evening, Marchjuly. I don't understand the alert you sent me in reference to the Castro with hat picture. It was taken by a Castro family member (my brother) and has been in my possession for some time. Also the Army Barracks picture was from a book published in 1911. The book has been in the Castro family possession and Castro has written on several of its pictures, as you can see by his writing on the Army Barracks picture in the draft. To whom do I write for permission? A final question: Wikipedia editors are improving my draft for which I am grateful, but where can I see a history of these changes? I appreciate your guidelines and help. Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 02:33, 12 September 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oscar Waldoosty (talkcontribs)
I’ve already responded to your question on my Commons user talk page. Please check there for more details. — Marchjuly (talk) 03:13, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

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