User talk:Msrasnw/2010

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I removed this image because non-free images are not allowed in list articles per

Reply I am obviously disappointed (but not upset :)) as I was rather keen on Luke Kelly and the list looks a bit dry without pictures. I had thought that non-free images were allowed in lists so long as it was done judiciously - but anyway.. ...

* I think your claim that non-free images are not allowed in list articles per WP:NFLISTS. is wrong and perhaps should be reworded to reflect what the policy is?

Perhaps Non-free images should only be judiciously used in list articles per WP:NFLISTS

* Also does the same apply to our lovely Louis le Brocquy (this does have a mention in the lead) and Margaret Burke Sheridan stamps or are they somehow different? (They are both far nicer than the Dubliners stamp!)

Best wishes, (Msrasnw (talk) 20:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I happened to be working on the 2005+ section adding some references to recent issues and due to recent discussions about use of non-free images in lists decided to remove it. I may have overstated the policy but we should remember the use of non-free images that can be replaced with free ones don't comply with the

WP:NFLISTS #6 also says that: Consider restricting such uses to ... elements or those that cannot be described easily in text. We don't describe any of them so unless we were to describe each stamp we wanted to include, we might leave ourselves open to the situation that has arisen recently where some people have argued that the list of Eastenders characters could possibly end up with 400 non-free images though it now seems they have all been deleted. Obviously this was an extreme situation but I think the other non-free images should really be removed (one even I uploaded) but I am open to any justification. BTW do you know you can use the {{Talkback}} template to notify an editor of a message on your talk page. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 17:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Many thanks (yes I know about talkback but prefer a personal approach) Also I think overstating policy might not be a wise strategy in future. But leaving the other nicer non-free stamps on the list seems to me fine. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 20:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

This is one of the more heated AfD discussions I've seen in a long time and you really have done a heroic job of rescuing the article. No user would have nominated this for deletion had it first appeared this way. My guess is that it will be kept and should be kept. --

• Actually, I'm about to change my vote to a firm keep. It's a great rescue, the sources notable and is worth keeping if the author doesn't start putting the promotional material back in it.  :) --
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Thanks and I hope your results for the GRE go well. (Msrasnw (talk) 23:05, 14 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I did give it a look, and I think the closing admin summed it up pretty well; I completely forgot to go to the AfD and change my vote, though, because another dispute blew up elsewhere. It looks much better now. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No worries - and thanks anyway! :) (Msrasnw (talk) 19:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Sorry for the late reply, but here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_Institute_for_Development_Economics_Research

I will get the full sources, I promise. Suahili (talk) 23:58, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Guilty as charged! No idea why I did that, he's not even on the List of people from Cranbrook, Kent and isn't linked to the Cranbrook, Kent article (which is how I've been compiling the templates). No problem with the removal in this instance. Mjroots (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eureka!!!! Cranbrook School, Kent#Notable alumni. Seems he's an Old Cranbrookian, which makes the template valid, wouldn't you say? Mjroots (talk) 17:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in two minds about the template appearing on articles where the person appears in a list of people from (place). It seemed like a good idea, but there have been a few objections. For those that have already been added, I'm not minded to remove the templates, but on the other hand, I'm not adding the templates for other towns and villages where the person appears in such lists. The issue raised here is that ABA being an OC needs sourcing. Mjroots (talk) 17:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! :) (Msrasnw (talk) 17:37, 30 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

The template can stay removed if you feel that it's not that relevant. . Mjroots (talk) 17:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh... sorry about that. With the explanation, I see that you're probably correct about the de-link in the

It was my error - sorry! (Msrasnw (talk) 16:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC))[reply]

• Hello, I noticed on my watchlist that you had Claire Jowitt restored to you for sourcing, and saw you do good work on academic BLPs, so I wanted to mention the existence of the Wikipedia:Unreferenced BLP Rescue Project to you. We are working to eliminate unreferenced BLPs on wikipedia, going thru one month of tagged articles at a time. We aren't necessarily subject matter experts though, we are just trying to improve articles that have been without references or attention for 2+ years in many cases, and this does lead to deletion nominations when we can't find sources. The more eyes we have helping us, the better. Perhaps if you swing by you can check out the current month we are working on, June 2008, to see if there are any academics that interest you. Cheers.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 14:27, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response. People on our project have varying views regarding inclusion/deletion (I am big inclusionist myself, but my expertise is not in sourcing academics), but we all want to see BLPs get sourced whenever they can. For instance, if you'd been around when this one came up, it may not have been deleted. When you add some sources, but the article could use more, you can update the BLPunreferenced template to BLP sources to encourage others to continue what you started.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 21:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an academic Lisa Lowe...--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 22:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Milowent, I have added a ref. to Dr Lowe's page but my feeling, at the moment, is that I think I would prefer to be working on ones in which I have an interest or knowledge (and these are quite wide ranging) - or perhaps both. I don't know much about comparative literature - and I am not sure about the need to save (not that I want to delete) a prof. at a big US uni. while we delete leading full profs. from the UK, Russia, India, China etc... Anyway - best wishes :) (Msrasnw (talk) 23:39, 9 December 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I'll keep that in mind when I see one of those folks up for potential deletion. Thanks for looking at that one! Cheers.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 21:17, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re your comment concerning CJ at mine, I know you're right about notability as far as reinstatement is concerned, and I'm sure Hon Sec of Society for Renaissance Studies will be authoritatively deemed equivalent to bingo-calling at a day centre, but as a general user of Wikipedia articles I just like a bit of illustrative material as well. I never cease to be amazed how determined some people at Wikipedia are not to allow knowledge to be made available to people who are looking for it. Why not allow a redirect to a User Page? Why do Pikachu characters appear to need less supporting evidence of notability than academics who apparent fellow-academics snoot at as "run-of-the-mill"? We get asked to help reference UBLPs today and once we've done it they get deleted tomorrow, but we keep at it, just so as not to give in! Opbeith (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - we should just keep trying to make things better despite the less constructive approach of others. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 00:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC))[reply]

You are probably right. Absence of an author is suspicious, plus only 22 pages, now I check. Too bad. Aymatth2 (talk) 21:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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