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howdy PrincessKannapolisSo, as you are learning the hard way, wikipedia can be a bit tough on beginners. :-) I'd like to help you out, if you'll let me. You can reply here, or message me at my talkpage. Preferably in lowercase, if your keyboard supports it. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 15:35, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or promotion. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} . However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Secret account 15:52, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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PrincessKannapolis (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I understand I was blocked for what other editors deemed to be reliable sources and will only publish from now on sources that abide by this rule. I was not aware what a reliable source was. If unblocked, I will do more research to make sure sources fit proper criteria for Wikipedia. Lastly, I will make sure to be more communicative with other editors as messages arise.PrincessKannapolis (talk) 17:00, 16 November 2013 (UTC) ]
Decline reason: Your request addresses the issues of adequate sourcing and communication, which is good, but says nothing about the issue of conflict of interest. You have stated that one of your article subjects is your client, and many of the others seem to form a related cluster. Editing Wikipedia on behalf of clients is very strongly discouraged, but seems to be your main purpose here. Please read the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. Would you agree, if unblocked, to edit only in accordance with those principles? JohnCD (talk) 23:06, 16 November 2013 (UTC) ]
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PrincessKannapolis (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: After much talk going on in this section and learning on my behalf, I would like an administrator to review me once again to unblock my username. I will take what I have learned and apply it to my future editing at Wikipedia, if given the opportunity to contribute once again and abide by the rules on Wikipedia's guidelines to my knowledge and hopefully be cooperative in communicating when receiving a message or taking into account how other editors are editing my edits and carefully review why they did it. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 00:24, 17 November 2013 (UTC) Decline reason: This request is good progress, but you haven't exactly answered the question the last reviewing admin asked you, and I'd need to see you answer it specifically before I felt comfortable unblocking you: if you are unblocked, will you commit to following the guidelines set down in Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide? That would include openly disclosing when you have a conflict of interest - any conflict of interest - on a topic and not editing any article about yourself, your family or friends, your organization, your clients (or the clients of a company you are working for - whether your affiliation is direct or indirect doesn't matter), or your competitors. You would be allowed to make requests and suggestions on such articles' talk pages, but not edit the articles themselves. Is this something you're willing to abide by? Not just "I will follow Wikipedia's rules" or "I will follow WP:COI", but "I will follow those specific rules from the plain-and-simple guide, which involves not editing articles I have been or will be compensated for editing or influencing, and I will always disclose when I make requests on the talk page of an article I have a COI on"? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:54, 17 November 2013 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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PrincessKannapolis (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Sorry for my oversight on answering the question. I will commit to following the guidelines in notable biographical living people. If I do in fact have a conflict of interest on an article, I will request this in the talk page, which can then be reviewed by an administrator on Wikipedia.PrincessKannapolis (talk ) 1:05 am, Yesterday (UTC+0)
Decline reason: I would be willing to grant this unblock request were it not for the very strong evidence that you have used another account. You have not commented on the case presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PrincessKannapolis/Archive, and I'd like to hear from you how you are related to User:Mstaton617 before addressing this request. Yunshui 雲水 08:47, 18 November 2013 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. |
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That's my friend from USC who is my future business partner in my web company. He was helping me out the other day with our business plan. We're starting up a company together. May I have permission to be unblocked now? I can have him log back on from his IP at home if you want and make edits to show you? PrincessKannapolis (talk) 10:09 pm, 18 November 2013, Monday (10 days ago) (UTC+0)
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I understand the miscommunication that I am a conflict of interest. I am not being paid for this either. I will only edit in accordance with the principles of Wikipedia's guidelines and of the rule stated above. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 23:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC) ]
oh nohz U haz been blockerizedHello again PrincessKannapolis, this is 74 again. Sorry I was too late to keep you from getting blocked. Please do be aware, that you *can* be unblocked, if you explain to User:Secret that you understand what behavior got you blocked, and promise not to do it again. I can walk you through the process, if you like. It's not that bad; I got blocked once by mistake, too. :-) Hope this helps, you can reply right here with any questions or concerns you have. But do please be WP:NICE, it is essential for getting along around these here parts. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 16:01, 16 November 2013 (UTC) ]
Hahaha, thank you 74. Am definitely learning everything now! PrincessKannapolis (talk) 08:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC) lesson one, |
open book test, eh? still, you should read the guideline, before you check your answer here
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Here is my getting-started-survival-manual for folks that edit the articles related to their work. It's a rough-draft-in-progress, but I think it's useful, let me know if anything is unclear. As you may have gathered by now, many wikipedians are *very* prickly about Spam! That does not mean, however, that all is lost. But there are some specific rules you should be strongly aware of.
Anyhoo, welcome to wikipedia, sorry about all the rules, but they really are for a good reason: if the company and products you are affiliated with *are* Notable enough to deserve their own wikipedia article, or WP:UNDUE) in some non-dedicated wikipedia articles, that's a gold star in their cap. Hope this helps. See also, the five pillars below. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:33, 16 November 2013 (UTC) ]
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- ((reply to #1)) I am not being paid by anyone to do this, in all honesty. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 23:09, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- ((reply to #2)) Once again, I am not employed by any of the people associated with the articles. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 23:09, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- ((reply to #3)) I fully understand now what a reliable source is after reading it. I will not add sources from direct websites of the person or business mentioned in the article unless they're covered by third party sources as well.PrincessKannapolis (talk) 23:09, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- 74, I am not a WP:COI fully means now though after reading it and will only be adding content based upon that criteria Wikipedia is requiring of editors. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 23:09, 16 November 2013 (UTC)]
- Apologies, PrincessK, my impression was that you were getting paid. FiddleFaddle mentioned something, about you talking about your clients. Do you not have a 'business or financial interest' with any of the folks you have been working on, or with the filming/distribution of Identity? In that case, I was confused. ((p.s. moved and indented your comment by adding some colons)) 74.192.84.101 (talk) 14:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- I mentioned it because PK stated while requesting the protection of Kelly Baugher that she was the representative of Ms Baugher. This is unusual phraseology if one is not a paid (eg) PR agent. I have quoted the diff of her words in various places, including my own talk page in response to her diatribe there, but am quite happy to accept a categorical assurance that she used the term genuinely as a friend helping a friend for no payment, nor even barter. I am simply advising her in the strongest possible manner that any conflict of interest is, at best, inadvisable for a career editing here. IT took a lot of effort to get her into conversation, and I hope you and she will engage in a fruitful teacher/pupil relationship now we have her attention. I might also add that this essay is one that is helpful. There are others, and any can be read. They all advise broadly the same things. Fiddle Faddle 15:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, the language in some quotes is definitely confusing... "I am representative of this client. I meant administrator in the sense I am to supervise this Wikipedia article. Sorry for the terminology confusion."[1] PrincessK, the terminology is still confusing me. :-)   when you said that you are the representative of this client, did you really just mean that she was your friend, and that is all? The phrasing is a bit odd. Or maybe somebody else also uses your computer to edit wikipedia? That would explain the disconnect, I guess. Anyways, the terminology aside, this is a clear-cut case of inherent bias... see my story at the top of this section, about the gramma.
- PrincessK, you love your gramma, you cannot edit an article Gramma of PrincessK without being biased. You are friends with Kelly, you cannot edit an article Kelly_B without being biased. In such cases, you have to use the talkpage, and suggest your changes ("my gramma is the best cook in the world") for some uninvolved editor to glance over. Does this make sense? p.s. No offense to your gramma, or for that matter, to your friend. Wikipedia is not against having friends! We are just very very careful about bias, especially subtle bias. Even if your friend does not pay you in cash, they compensate you in friendship. One of the most precious commodities in the universe. Hope this helps clarify. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 16:34, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- I mentioned it because PK stated while requesting the protection of Kelly Baugher that she was the representative of Ms Baugher. This is unusual phraseology if one is not a paid (eg) PR agent. I have quoted the diff of her words in various places, including my own talk page in response to her diatribe there, but am quite happy to accept a categorical assurance that she used the term genuinely as a friend helping a friend for no payment, nor even barter. I am simply advising her in the strongest possible manner that any conflict of interest is, at best, inadvisable for a career editing here. IT took a lot of effort to get her into conversation, and I hope you and she will engage in a fruitful teacher/pupil relationship now we have her attention. I might also add that this essay is one that is helpful. There are others, and any can be read. They all advise broadly the same things. Fiddle Faddle 15:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
This is correct, it was a friend and I am not being paid and I did it as a favor to help out and not for imbursement as a PR agent. Saying my client was the quickest way to get HKnox from continuing to edit false information on the articles as I was fully aware of the work I was doing and they didn't fully read the sources I provided and they continue to cause content warring with me. When I said client, I meant that in the most minimal form. It's unpaid work I enjoy doing for my friends. I will be more careful in the future with my terminology so there is no confusion about the sensitive rules within Wikipedia, if given the opportunity to continue editing (within Wikipedia's guidelines). PrincessKannapolis (talk) 05:16, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I also understand the conflict of interest rule thoroughly now. I will not edit articles that are deemed COI and use the talk page if I must request something. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
lesson zero, WP:NICE
Since you already look like you learned this lesson, I'll put it after the
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia (nothing more nothing less)
- Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view (stay fair & stick to the sources)
- Wikipedia is free content that anyone can edit (free as in freedom)
- Editors should treat each other with respect and civility (WP:IMAGINE)
- Wikipedia does not have firm rules ("If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.")
You were having some trouble with the fourth one in the list, which applies at all times in all areas; note also that the fifth rule only comes into play for *improvements* to wikipedia herself.
Although they seemed rude, folks putting up articles for deletion, and causing you lots of problems, were in fact improving wikipedia. They understand the
open book test, for lesson two
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Some particular fact, in order to be *mentioned* in an existing article, such as the Ed Asner article, must be found in a Reliable Source that mentions the fact. Note that this is special wikiJargon, with a special meaning of wikiReliable. Simply being *true* is not good enough: the fact must have been published. However, nowadays it is *easy* for almost anybody to publish almost anything, on their blog, on some press release, through a vanity press like Amazon, or similar things. If you want your fact in wikipedia, you need to find somebody who was published in newspapers/teevees/magazines (offline or online) that has a professional editorial department to perform fact-checking.
Alternatively, you might be able to find some academic paper/journal/similar, that was peer-reviewed by folks in that field. In *very* rare cases, you can quote directly from the people involved: for instance, if some actor X says (on their personal blog) that they are working with some director Y, and over on the director's personal blog they also confirm they are working with actor X, then you have a WP:NOTEWORTHY fact, suitable for mentioning in some existing article, about the actor, or about the director.
There is a big difference between being Noteworthy ... which only requires passing mention ... and being Notable (by the special wikiJargon definition of that term). To have a dedicated article, the topic must be Notable in the wikipedia sense: significant in-depth coverage (at least a couple paragraphs specifically about the topic) in multiple Reliable Sources (newspaper/teevee/magazine/academia). This is much harder to achieve than mere wikiNoteworthy-ness. For example, if you are an actress, and you are mentioned (name-dropped) in a couple news-articles about *other* topics, then she might qualify as wikiNoteworthy... but unless there have been *several* news-articles that cover the actress *specifically* and with some level of depth, the actress will not get a dedicated article about themselves, yet. Of course, keep your scrapbook open; sooner or later, if you are careful in keeping track of press (positive or negative -- makes no difference), sooner or later the actress will qualify for a dedicated article. WP:DEADLINE applies here: wikipedia is for the ages. Hope this helps. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:49, 16 November 2013 (UTC) ]
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- Kelly would be be wikiNoteworthy to be mentioned in an article. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 23:18, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- Being noteworthy is not the same as being worthy of an own article. If someone is noteworthy he/she can be mentioned in an article about some other subject (provided the noteworthyness is supported by proper sources), but to have an own article requires a much higher degree of notability than being just noteworthy. Kelly Baugher might be noteworthy, i.e. notable enough to be mentioned in an article about something or someone else, but consensus here on WP is that she is not notable enough to have an article about herself here. Thomas.W talk to me 23:30, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- I understand in what content is considered by WP:NOTEWORTHY now after learning this. I will promise to abide by these rules and in a case of an article on Ed Asner, I will make sure my references are all reliable sources. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 23:18, 16 November 2013 (UTC)]
- In the future, when adding or editing people on a biographical living person, I will promise to add them to already existing pages if they are mentioned elsewhere in a reference that supports an existing company or person. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 00:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, sounds like we're making progress. You do not have to promise to add folks to existing pages unreservedly... sometimes, people pop instantly into fame (child stars or winners of talent-gameshows or somesuch) and have multiple significant in-depth Reliable Sources, practically overnight. There are some caveats like WP:BLP1E, but in some cases a person can attain insta-wikiNotability.
- The only other main thing that I think needs to be crystal clear is the definition of verified. Does all this make sense? :-) 74.192.84.101 (talk) 14:13, 17 November 2013 (UTC)]
- Okay, sounds like we're making progress. You do not have to promise to add folks to existing pages unreservedly... sometimes, people pop instantly into fame (child stars or winners of talent-gameshows or somesuch) and have multiple significant in-depth Reliable Sources, practically overnight. There are some caveats like
Yes, this makes sense. I understand what a reliable source is now. I will be more prudent about putting up references for articles and make sure they abide by such rules as stated above and in the Wikipedia guidelines. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 05:19, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
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]- I will place your comments on the article's talk page. There is nothing in the article to indicate her notability. That is the problem. Fiddle Faddle 08:23, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you
- There is something to learn from this, too. It is that no matter how strident you have been, and you have been strident in the extreme on my talk page, a discussion I suggest you look at again and consider well, that I, at least, am wholly even handed in my dealings. So are most other editors. The issue you presented was that getting your attention was impossible, but your editing was so out of line that getting your attention was essential. Wikipedia is not all it appears. It is most assuredly not a gentle place, nor is it an easy place to work. If you choose well then it can be fun and a decent hobby. Choose badly and it bites hard.
- The Brindak article was not deleted, though my view is that it still deserves to be as an article. Notable links do not make an article. The lady herself has some notability, but the article does not state it, and needs a serious rewrite, something I am not going to attempt. I hope very much that she is not another of your friends. If she is, leave the article to its fate, whatever that fate may be. Fiddle Faddle 08:56, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
It's a fun place to add new information that you learn on noteable people. Ok, great! No, I like to research new companies and founders and came across her profile. There is another article on a new young business entrepreneur that I think needs an article now that I would like to add, but I can't because I am still currently blocked. There's a company Evan Spiegel runs that Facebook just offered $3 Billion and he turned it down. I'm sure he could be worth an article as well with his noteability. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 09:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- It is. However I still commend the discussion you started on my talk page to you.
- When and if you achieve unblocking, I suggest that you use the WP:AFC route for a while in creating new articles. It is slower, but a more reliable way of learning your trade than firing new articles into space. Fiddle Faddle 09:36, 19 November 2013 (UTC)]
Hahaha, alright. Thank you for the tip and I will most definetely check it out for additional articles if I get back up and running here. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 14:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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I concur. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 08:09, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
lesson three, WP:PUPPET
Hello PrincessK, it looks like you are close to ready, with one final hurdle,
some advice on honesty being the best policy
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This one is not as easy as the earlier lessons, because folks around here are super-damn-touchy about it, and have no tolerance for beginners making the mistake... although, of course, almost all beginners make this mistake, especially if they get blockerized in a way they feel is unfair. I could give you the whole history... okay that's wrong, I could give you a miniscule portion of the whole history, that I have observed or inferred, but I'll save you the pain and just cut to the way things are.
wp:meatpuppet .
1. Every human must use an individual login -- folks using an IP address, never to be trusted, presumption is they are socks. 2. If you ever forget to login, and edit as an anon, then you are a sock, because you just were socking (T.Y.A.A.S. B.Y.J.W.S.). 3. If you ever use another device, such as your friend's/coworker's computer who also edits wikipedia, your tablet, or the library kiosk, and forget to login to your unique username, Tyaas Byjws. 4. If you are working on an article, or voting on AfD/AfC/similar, and you ask your real-world friend/coworker to also comment or also vote on that article, Tyaas Byjws. 5. There is a related phenomenon called wp:canvassing , which is when you wikiverse friends/co-editors to also comment or also vote on that article, which is not technically socking but seriously frowned upon, and doubly-super-seriously-frowned-upon if you ever were a sock.
Never forget to login as PrincessK. This is hard. If you get a new PC, or switch to a tablet, or use the library computer, or install chromium instead of firefox as your browser... you gotta login. If you forget, you can still click edit, and you can still click save, but since your PrincessK username will not be attached, you just turned into a sock. Never let somebody else use PrincessK. Your mom, you friends, and especially your co-workers. Nevah evah use your coworker's/friend's pseudonym... nobody can impersonate you, and you cannot impersonate anybody else. If you are working for a company (or getting ready to start a company), and you plan to edit anything even remotely related to the industry, better disclose it right on your userpage and right on your talkpage.
Now, officially, spilling your life story, every person you ever worked with, every friend you ever had, is not required. But, now that you have made a series of mistakes, and made a bunch of experienced wikipedians (who through no fault of your own were already super-sensitive on the topic) worry that you are some hyper-megalomaniacal-evil-corporate-supergenius, there will be people who say you must put your mother's maiden name and the routing number to your bank account on your wikipedia userpage before they will trust you. You don't have to do that. But you do have to understand that wikipedia is under stress right now. There are not enough people helping. (Many of them run for the hills after all their articles are deleted and they get perma-banned... imagine that!) But as FiddleFaddle says, this is a good place. You are smart enough and tough enough to stay, I'm reasonably convinced. But you need to decide how you can proceed safely within the hardline-socking-policy. I can advise you, but cannot decide for you. My advice is simple: only edit from one device. Never edit the same article -- and especially never vote on the same article -- as somebody who works with you, or is your real-life friend. You can both edit the talkpages of the same articles... but it is risky, you do not want to look like you and your co-workers are trying to pull wp:meatpuppet tricks to fake consensus. Effectively, you need to have one person assigned to each 'client' (which includes friends who might someday be clients once your startup is bigger than google :-)
I do not recommend -- except for listing Kelly -- that you put down your real-world friends, or your real-world clients, or whatever. But for the next twelve months, recommend you tread lightly here on wikipedia, and do your best to WP:TEAHOUSE is open 24/7.
p.s. When you get unblocked, and are being careful, but you catch yourself doing something wrong, immediately confess right here on this talkpage. If you make some edit at the library without logging in, then notice when you get home some library IP number making comments, create a new section here on this talkpage, explain you were at the library and forgot to login, list the IP of the library-account, and then click save. Prolly you should then go back to the edit-history of the library-IP, and retroactively "sign" the library-edits with your princessK username, so nobody will be confused about talkpage-consensus or whatever, but the important part is linking your PrincessK username, to the edits you made from the library, so that you are not later (sometimes much later) accused of socking. And of course, if you make a mistake, and somebody else catches you, then just be nice, and be honest, and you'll be fine. :-) Hope this helps. Look forward to seeing you around. — 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:39, 21 November 2013 (UTC) |
- Dear 74,
- Also known as a sock, but the above terms because you are not logged into a username. Shame on you! Joking...
- I understand what meatpuppetry and socking are and will steer clear of that by logging in always to my username. This will be the only username I use. I will never edit under someone else and pretend to be them nor let anybody I may work with in the future edit as me. This will take care of any confusion with meatpuppetry or sockpuppetry.
- I will also always make reference if I login to another computer or IP address on my talk page so that there is no confusion about who edited an article. I will be very careful with the articles I edit so that I can build some clout on Wikipedia and my account that I am a trusted Wikipedia article editor.
- Sincerely,
- PrincessKannapolis (talk) 03:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- Yup, accused often of being a puppet. :-) Which is a fine joke when you speak with me, I laughed, though in general it is a serious accusation, and you'll have to stick to joking with people who already know you well -- too easy to offend over the text-only-interwebs! You can see how FiddleFaddle handled it quietly, which was just right... they asked somebody with checkuser, the "magic" wiki-tool that investigates past history of usernames. Methinks you'll find they are wise in the ways of wikipedia, so if you are worried about this or that, feel free to ask for advice from them, or from me of course.
- But seriously, I edit from an IP, and only from an IP, for philosophical reasons. Most folks begin their editing careers as anons, and some never stop. Once you start to edit from a username, however, you basically have to keep editing from that username -- especially if you do get in hot water for editing from your friend's computer before you learned all the rules, ahem. ;-) I will ping Yunshui, and see whether they agree that you have snatched the pebble. p.s. Use your new skills for The Good; that will lead to trust. Thanks for improving wikipedia; see you around. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 22:11, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Lol, ok. Thank you for the advice. I will be cautious of joking terms in serious accusations on Wikipedia terminology. PrincessKannapolis (talk) 20:38, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Welcome!
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I unblocked you as long as you avoid the articles on your friends and family you are fine. If you continue with your
- Gracias, Secret (and Yunshui and Tim-aka-FiddleFaddle). She was welcomed by hostbot, with a link to five pillars, she should be ready to face the wikiverse once again. Thanks. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 06:37, 29 November 2013 (UTC)]
Welcome (back)
So! Once again free to roam, uhh, freely. :-) You wanna gab about the colons-thing, or help me get info from Rockypedia and Schmidt about which sources are legit for the film biz? Or, if you'd rather try
Snapchat
Well well. Evan_Spiegel.
Definitely NOT wikiReliable, except possibly for
Almost certainly NOT wikiReliable.
- http://www.facenfacts.com/NewsDetails/43848/evan-spiegel:-facebook-offered-snapchats-23-year-old-$3-billion-he-turned-down.htm
- http://www.policymic.com/articles/73429/snapchat-ceo-evan-spiegel-s-3-billion-rejection-letter-to-facebook-s-mark-zuckerberg
- http://wagcenter.com/social-networks-wags/snapchat-co-founder-evan-spiegels-girlfiend/
WikiReliable.
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/02/evan-spiegel_n_4201128.html
- http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57613694-93/snapchats-evan-spiegel-saying-no-to-$3b-and-feeling-lucky/
- http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/disruptors/evan-spiegel_bobby-murphy.html
- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/social-media/10452668/Snapchats-Evan-Spiegel-Deleting-should-be-the-default.html
- http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/11/20/snapchat-ceo-says-70-of-users-are-women/
- http://www.elle.com/news/culture/evan-spiegel-snapchat
It depends, tread carefully, ask if not sure.
- http://www.crunchbase.com/person/evan-spiegel
- http://www.salon.com/topic/evan_spiegel/
- http://bigstory.ap.org/article/snapchat-ceo-evan-spiegel-talks-sexts-and-growth
- http://www.weleadmedia.co.uk/news/facebook-offer-snapchat-3bn-evan-spiegel-declines/
- http://entertainment.verizon.com/news/read/category/business/article/ap-snapchat_ceo_evan_spiegel_talks_sexts_an-ap
Hope this helps. :-) — 74.192.84.101 (talk) 16:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Are you now ready to edit?
I ask because 74 has expended a great deal of time and effort preparing your path. Fiddle Faddle 23:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- What I am wondering now, since you are not back even though you have been unblocked is whether Lady Macbeth is relevant here. Now, since you have the absolute right not to edit Wikipedia I can't say I am concerned, but simple politeness, something that was absent in your tirade on my talk page, would suggest that you might at least thank 74. :) Fiddle Faddle 22:34, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Oh pfffffftttttttttt. <wipes slobber off laptop screen> <ewuuwwww> TimFiddly, you are such a stickler for propriety! PrincessK need not *thank* anybody for coerced training by blockerizoo-wiki-fiat. Didn't you ever have to go to school, and be forced to memorize the list of bordering-political-entities for some bit of land under a reigning poo-bah — uhhh... no offense to your own kingdom PrincessK which I'm sure is quite lovely and well-ordered — plus what their major products were? That's such a throwback to the days when place X would invade their neighbor Y, in order to acquire some particular industrial commodity, or control the flow thereof. Good thing nothing like that happens anymore! :-/ Oh wait... there was that... nevermind.
- ANYHOO, no apologies are necessary, and no thanks, and no nothing. PrincessK is welcome to edit WP:IMAGINE, my new favorite. Hope this helps, see you both later. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 14:05, 17 December 2013 (UTC)]
happy proleptic gregorian increment
- :-) 74.192.84.101 (talk) 08:52, 11 January 2014 (UTC)