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Ways to improve Geoff Cronjé
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Cronjé lived from 1907 to 1992, apparently, as per multiple Google-found sources, which I should have put in I realize now. I realize that there is some criticism of my process. I fully support improvements, added source material, edits to my articles and contributions to others, in the spirit of the wiki. I have been conveying sources faithfully from originals and have tried to avoid weasel words from same as I become more seasoned, but realize some editors from which I have translated have not been as thorough as we would like with their own footnoting. Would it be more helpful if I avoid material without inlines?Tildemanana (talk) 01:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- Please slow down - most of the articles you are creating are getting moved to draftspace, and will if they are not improved eventually be deleted - this just wastes everyones time. Different language Wikis have different standards about what is required for an article so wholesale copying from one to another is not a good idea. Read the various WP:reliable source and that it is explicitly stated where to find it - web pages should be direct links to a page and not links to a homepage. Printed references should give page numbers where the information can be found rather than just the title of a book. If those details are not in the source article, and you cannot find them yourself, don't create the article here. noq (talk) 09:22, 19 July 2019 (UTC)]
- Hi Tildemanana, I was checking back here to see whether you'd replied to my comment above, and I see that another review has moved all the pages I looked at to draft already. To be honest, that's probably what I would have ended up doing too. I agree with everything Noq has said above. Before you start a translation, the first thing to check is whether the subject would be notable according to our guidelines, in terms of the availability of independent, reliably published sources to establish notability. So yeah, if you see an article that doesn't have in-line references, or which are referenced only to affiliated websites, it's probably better not to do the translation as the page unless you're willing to look for additional independent sources to add in. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 09:37, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- And still you create more inappropriate articles. I have moved some sections to the top of this page to make it easier for you to see them in the sea of boilerplate messages telling you that the articles you created have been moved to draftspace or put up for deletion. As stated above, you are jsut creating work for many people and most of the articles you create are likely to end up being deleted as abandoned drafts. so please slow down, read the WP:AFC process and get them in a state that they are accepted. Do that for a few artcles until you learn what is required for main space and then start to create in main space again. noq (talk) 12:15, 20 July 2019 (UTC)]
- And still you create more inappropriate articles. I have moved some sections to the top of this page to make it easier for you to see them in the sea of boilerplate messages telling you that the articles you created have been moved to draftspace or put up for deletion. As stated above, you are jsut creating work for many people and most of the articles you create are likely to end up being deleted as abandoned drafts. so please slow down, read the
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Ways to improve Reformed Church Windhoek
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Hey, I see you've been doing a lot of translations from the Afrikaans Wikipedia recently. Thanks a lot! This is much-needed work here on Wikipedia. I have but one simple request of you. When we make translations, we are required to attribute the text to the original article. You seem to be aware of this, and already note that articles are translations in your edit summary when you create them. However, simply stating which Wikipedia you translated from isn't sufficient attribution. For example, when I tried to find the source for your translation of Bloemfontein Teachers' Training College on Afrikaans Wikipedia, I was unable to.
On English Wikipedia, we typically attribute translations both in edit summaries and on the article's talk page, so that both those viewing the page history (often editors doing routine maintenance) and those viewing the talk pages (those doing or considering more substantial improvements) are aware. When attributing on talk pages, we have a special template, {{Translated page}}, that we like to use. You simply fill out the relevant parameters: the language code (in this case, "af") and the exact title are both required, and the exact version id of both the source and the translation are preferred. As for edit summaries, writing something like: "Translated from af:Scottish Horse-gedenkteken" (to use Scottish Horse War Memorial as an example) would work, as would replacing the wikilink with the original's url. If you could include this information when translating articles in the future, it would be greatly appreciated.
As for all of your past translations, I'm willing to go through your contributions and add {{Translated page}} to all of those. However, I will need you to give me the title of the original for Bloemfontein Teachers' Training College, if you please. Many thanks! —Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:50, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
The article title you mentioned just now is af:Bloemfonteinse Normaalkollege. I always link the original article from the widget at left.Cornbread (talk) 23:34, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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A couple weeks ago, I left a message on your talk page asking you to adjust the way you translate pages so that editors can easily find the original source, as our copyright policy requires. You have neither acknowledged my comment nor adjusted your methods. Per
- On closer analysis, I see you have begun adding the Afrikaans titles to the articles themselves. I apologize for speaking too hastily. This is… progress, I suppose, although it is not ideal. Those of us who do project maintenance won't look for that information there, for a number of reasons, the main two being that project information is mostly self-referencing and therefore, unsurprisingly, seldom embedded directly in articles. The second reason is that the listing of an alternative language is typically not associated with translations, because most articles that involve a foreign subject have such information per WP:UEIA, but most such articles do not contain translations of other language projects.
- Ultimately, it would much easier for us if you added {{Translated page}} to the talk page of articles you translated, and referenced the specific title of the article from Afrikaans Wikipedia you used in the edit summary. Would you be willing to do this? I promise it isn't difficult; because you already have all of that information, it would take you less than a minute to do so, and the formatting is easy. As for what you are currently doing, I'm frankly unsure whether it is acceptable. If you wish to continue doing so, I will need to ask other editors for input.
- Also, because Wikipedia is a collaborative project, communication is key—at the bare minimum, an acknowledgement that you have read this and understand what I am saying would be immensely helpful. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:07, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
I see what you mean and would be willing to place that on talk pages. If others wish to correct or edit or build on the work, in the spirit of Wikipedia I welcome it.Cornbread (talk) 17:24, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oh! I now see that you responded above, too. Your signature is confusing because it doesn't match your username at all, so it looks like a WP:SIGPROB use weak language, but I think this is disallowed, and it's extraordinarily confusing in any case. I would encourage you to change it. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:42, 3 July 2019 (UTC)]
Not sure how I became Cornbread, so I fixed it to match my username. Thank you for your understanding as I learn some of the intricacies of communicating on this system.Tildemanana (talk)
- Of course! We were all new once, and most of us learned much from other, more-experienced users correcting us. While we are speaking of this, I should also note that the preferred method for displaying the subject's names from other languages is using Template:Lang-xx, where "xx" tis replaced with the ISO 639-1 language code for whatever language it is, in this case "af". This provides a couple of advantages over typing the text out by hand. The main one is that it adds the page to relevant subcategory of Category:Articles containing non-English-language text, a hidden tracking category we use for maintenance. The second is that it conveniently does all the formatting for you, which saves time and minimizes errors.
- Also, it would be ideal if you could copy coordinates data (if there is any) from the Afrikaans articles when you translate them. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 19:47, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, and I just noticed that you said above that you always link the articles from "the widget at left". I'm not sure I noticed, and if I did, it flew right over my head. Thank you for pointing that out: I had no idea that was a thing. Checking your global contributions, it looks like that's a Wikidata thing, which is relatively new. It's not adequate translation attribution for the same reason that listing the article's alternative-language names is inadequate—editors won't look at Wikidata info and expect that to be the attribution—but this will help me pinpoint source titles for translation in the future. Thanks! —Compassionate727 (T·C) 19:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Appreciate hearing back, and the Template:Lang does appear quite handy, as is of course the ability to add templates from within the editor. I have Asperger's too (read your page), so it helps to have some guidance on the expectations. If you're American, have a great 4th of July, and if not, have a great summer day!Tildemanana (talk) 03:48, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
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Let me try to explain some of the problems you have been having:
- We normally do not make articles on primary schools.(see WP:SCHOOL, therehas to be something real y exceptional, and sources to show it.(an example might be the first primary school in an area). The way we handle most of them is to add asentence to the section on educatyion in the locality, andmake a redirect to that.
- Similarly for churches, where we usually do not make articles unless they are historic or of architectural importance. If they've been declared a national or state or provincial historical monument, theen its OK. Otherwise, make a redirect as for schools.
- We never makee articles pm routine building on university campuses, unless they are historic or otherwise special as a monument or architrectural importance. Sometimes we do make them in other cases, but otherwise only for major buildings at the most famous universities. It pretty much depends, again, on having sources. Otherwise , includei n the university--a redirect is usually not all that relevant, because people will naturally look for the information there .
- local companies., again, need to be of at least national importance, or else historic companies of earlier importance.
- Some of this is that it's harder for us to tell what counts as historic in South Africa than in the US or UK, and possibly a number of these that you have been writing might well qualify, if you can show the historic importance. It takes more than the sort of local historical publications that cover evey early building. For the US, there's a good understanding about the relevant dates, but I suspect that in SA anything from before 1909 or at least 1870 might be a possible case. DGG ( talk ) 05:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
I have been trying to restrict myself as of late to just adding articles where the original has inline citations, preferably multiple, to avoid this issue. I do see what you mean on the primary schools and the like.Tildemanana (talk) 14:33, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- You might want to consider creating articles as drafts first and getting them reviewed through the WP:AFC process rather than having new page patrollers move most of your articles to draftspace. noq (talk) 14:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)]
- about inline citations:It is notr primarily whether they're inline that matters. It's their quality. Don't use them if them come from PR sources. And don't use too many references for a single point. See WP:REFBOMB. If an article has 10 really good references providing substantial coverage from third-party independent reliable sources, it is much stronger than if has those 10 good sources, and 20 poor ones as well.
What I said about primary schools seemsclear enough: they will almostcertainly be deleted. DGG ( talk ) 19:56, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
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Dear Tildemanana, Hi. Thanks for translating films' pages into English. You should know some rules about page naming, which I knew by experience. Don't name a page Tears of Joy (1950 film) unless there is another film page of the same name. Thus the correct name should be Tears of Joy (film), because there no other film of the same name. Moreover, don't name a page The Country Girl (Hasan el-Saifi film). Since there is another film in the same year of the same name, you've should name the page The Country Girl (1954 Egyptian film). Thanks.Maher27777 (talk) 11:40, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Beware also that editing policy in English Wikipedia are more strict than the Arabic one. Every information need to be sourced!Maher27777 (talk) 16:19, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
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