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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:41, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Natural Justice
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Page is for an organisation presumably defunct, no cites, the two external links don't lead anywhere and nothing coming up in search apart from a listing, and several organisations of the same name, to confuse the issue. Mramoeba (talk) 18:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment If this article isn't kept then I'd recommend redirecting it back to Natural justice which it was before this article was created in 2006. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:54, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. This organization is now known as The Institute for Food, Brain, and Behavior... but doesn't seem to have received any more coverage under that identity. There are a ton of other Natural Justices out there. The most prominent seems to be a South African legal org, but I'm not convinced of notability there either. No objection to the proposed redirect. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 00:42, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. Once notable, always notable. A defunct notable organization does not lose its notability. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:50, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. The "homepage" that this article links to had advice on getting "personal injury lawyers"? There is no notability here. Britishfinance (talk) 20:34, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Does not appear to meet WP:NORG. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:05, 10 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete The subject seems not to establish notability.89ezagonoszkommunistanacionalista64 (talk) 15:53, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Paula Fox per WP:ATD. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:31, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Elsie Fox
Not notable as a screenwriter per
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- Delete as per WP:TNT as this reads like a National Enquirer piece brimfull with sensationalism, and gossipy tidbits and hardly anything about the subject's actual career. It is also entirely negative and borderline csd attack page, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 20:01, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete Notability is not inherited... doesn’t matter who was born first. Trillfendi (talk) 17:22, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Paula Fox. Such an interesting story and connections. Seems like a shame to loose this text (some of the most interesting I have read in a BLP for some time). At least a Redirect would preserve what is there and maybe it could be fixed/properly merged in the future. Britishfinance (talk) 19:43, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. This is not the strongest consensus that I've seen. But there does not appear to be any appetite for deletion and this has been relisted twice. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:34, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Daniel Grau
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no indication of meeting
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He is a rather notable individual in Venezuela as well as in a few circles in the recording industry. I just need to find a few more resources that prove his notability. If given a few more days I can find them.Lightning ride (talk) 16:27, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. Five albums on WP:NMUSIC criterion 5. Coverage may be hard to find online, but it seems inconceivable that it doesn't exist. --Michig (talk) 08:51, 2 February 2019 (UTC)]
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- Weak keep. Systemic bias/source availability arguments seem compelling. That aside, I think this might be an RS? Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 23:58, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:35, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Abner Orick
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I suspect this fails
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- Comment Oh, Ab Orick, lol. I grew up in Dayton, and Abner Orick was a big deal at one time in that town, IIRC got a ton of local coverage because he considered himself a government watchdog and Dayton's political scene was full of cronyism. He may actually be notable. I'll see if I can find some sources. valereee (talk) 12:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
KeepI by no means exhausted the coverage; if anyone disagrees that notability has been proved, I can do more, but IMO I think he probably does qualify. The coverage is almost all local with some coverage in the rest of the state, but that's to be expected. He was a character, but not to the point he attracted national coverage. valereee (talk) 13:29, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the sourcing but I'm still not getting it. I don't think local coverage counts for much when it comes to GNG and I still don't see how he meets NPOL. If we let this through, there will be scope for tens of thousands of people in India whom we at present routinely reject. - Sitush (talk) 13:58, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- You don't think the sources meet "A politician who has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists." ? I guess I'd say if there are tens of thousands of people in India who are being written about multiple times in-depth over many years in the primary dailies of their midsize cities, they might be notable. valereee (talk) 14:21, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- I'm just saying how the guidelines have been interpreted in the past. It is also why quite a few articles by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) have been deleted. I really don't give a crap about US politics but I do dislike systemic bias and the US gets away with murder on that score. I'm not trying to pull an OTHERSTUFFEXISTS line here, btw: local politicians get local coverage, it's not usually thought of as being a big deal. - Sitush (talk) 14:25, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, you could mention probably a dozen other Dayton city commissioners and I'd say you're right, they aren't notable. I'd be able to do a search and find the only coverage they got were bare mentions of their wins or how they voted or single quotes in an article about an issue. I'm not arguing that being city commissioner (or the normal coverage that gets you) makes you notable. I'm arguing that in this case, a city commissioner of a midsize city might actually be notable because he got an abnormal amount of coverage. valereee (talk) 14:38, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I'm in the UK and can't see many US news sources, even though I see the results listings. Thus, I can't comment on their content, merely on what tends to happen: the "local heroes" type of situation doesn't usually wash at AfD. (Or "local baddy", as it sounds like it may be in this case.) - Sitush (talk) 14:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- I clipped all those articles -- you can't see the clippings? Maybe I did it wrong -- I only recently figured out it was even possible ETA: I don't think he was necessarily a local hero, although certainly the people in his blue-collar white east dayton neighborhoods thought so. And definitely not a baddy, he was well-intentioned. He was just a colorful character lol valereee (talk) 14:43, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I saw the links were for newspapers.com and I know I can't see them even though I can get results listings. However, I've just tried the first one and it is visible to me - I've not seen the clipping thing before but perhaps that does make a difference. Anyway, let's just see what other people think. Hero/celebrity/baddy/whatever - he's of local interest and local interest doesn't usually make for encyclopaedic interest in a worldwide context. Perhaps it should, and it would suit me just fine, but I'm just telling you how I've seen it play out in the past. - Sitush (talk) 14:58, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. I haven't gone through all of the sources to establish whether they're enough to make him special or not — and to be honest, I'm not actually going to, so I'm not going to "vote" either way. (Also, Valereee is making a sincere attempt to improve it, so I don't want to prejudge the results of the effort.) But I just wanted to point out the following: when it comes to city councillors, we do indeed normally require that either (a) they serve in an internationally prominent global city on the order of New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, Toronto or London, or (b) they can be referenced to a volume and depth and range of coverage that makes them a special case over and above most other city councillors. Simply showing that some local coverage exists is not normally enough, because local coverage of city councillors always exists — so we do indeed normally require some evidence of nationalizing coverage before we deem most city councillors to be notable enough, because if all you had to do to get a city councillor over the bar was show a handful of local coverage, then every city councillor could always show that and thus every city councillor would always be notable.
What I did want to say, though, is that in light of the above discussion I've reviewed the contents of the Dayton city councillors category — some of them do actually get over NPOL on other grounds (e.g. going on to serve in the state legislature), but there are indeed a few who have no credible evidence of notability at all, so I'm already taking on the task of listing those articles for AFD. Bearcat (talk) 17:04, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment @Bearcat: Thanks for that. Britishfinance (talk) 20:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete with regret. The sources are all local to the Dayton area with the exception of two. Akron is far removed from Dayton, and while not incredibly in-depth, it might help with GNG. The other is Cincinnati, again not tied to Dayton, but that is the briefest of bare mentions. Therefore it doesn't pass GNG, NPOL, or any other criteria I can think of to keep this well-written article. Dangnabbit. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:30, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete a locally notable city councilperson. Lots of coverage in the local papers, but fails WP:NPOL, and the coverage is basically what you would see for any councilperson who serves a long time without really doing anything of note. SportingFlyer T·C 20:43, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete with regret. A well written and sourced article on an interesting subject. However, all RS I found were from the Dayton area, which means I cannot see how this can meet WP:GNG (and per Bearcat above). I'm afraid it must be delete. Britishfinance (talk) 20:03, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. GNG is our bottom line and I find the argument that the subject fails that to be persuasive. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:40, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Naresuan F.C.
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Fails [1]. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:18, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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- My apologies, I wanted to link [2]. It has been corrected above. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:47, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. Fails WP:GNG and no indication they have ever played in the proper rounds of the national Cup (which is the usual barometer for football teams). GiantSnowman 11:52, 25 January 2019 (UTC)]
- Keep The article says they played in the Thai FA Cup in 2018, it would appear they do pass that standard. Smartyllama (talk) 13:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Has played in 2018 Thai FA Cup in the first round.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:47, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: WP:FOOTYN—which is a project advice essay and not a Wikipedia guideline—notwithstanding, the only piece of in-depth coverage I could identify is this SuperSubThailand article. All of the mentions in mainstream media reliable sources appear to be routine coverage of the tournaments, and do not cover the subject in detail. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:17, 26 January 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete per Paul_012's analysis of the coverage. SportingFlyer T·C 04:35, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment - @Smartyllama and Pharaoh of the Wizards: - I presume you have located independent reliable sources which verify the claim of notability made in the article (ie that they've played in the National Cup) that you've selfishly decided not to share with us? If so please do so I can re-consider. GiantSnowman 10:27, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- For some reason the Thai League website is blocked by my company firewall, but supposedly this is the match report from their first round cup game. That took me about two seconds to find by clicking through the articles and finding sources. Smartyllama (talk) 13:13, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- The match seems to me to be reliably sourced at the cup article, is there any reason why we can't take these sources as confirmation that the team has taken part in a national competition? Fenix down (talk) 09:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Those are primary sources, we can use them for WP:GNG it makes this a difficult case, especially since searching in Thai language results is more difficult than searching in a language with Latin script. SportingFlyer T·C 20:03, 5 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Those are primary sources, we can use them for
- The match seems to me to be reliably sourced at the cup article, is there any reason why we can't take these sources as confirmation that the team has taken part in a national competition? Fenix down (talk) 09:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- For some reason the Thai League website is blocked by my company firewall, but supposedly this is the match report from their first round cup game. That took me about two seconds to find by clicking through the articles and finding sources. Smartyllama (talk) 13:13, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per my above assessment, fails the ]
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The result was speedy delete per CSD G5. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Beautiful Reborn Flower
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Fails
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:41, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Olwen Kelly
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Does not meet
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- Delete and Salting. Little that would get the subject close to WP:GNG. The subject has even linked her instragam page and created an IMDb profile. Needs salting. Britishfinance (talk) 21:00, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete: Definitely fails the ]
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- Delete and salt this time. Same reasons as before, doesn't look like anything's changed. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America1000 03:14, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
William Hanes
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Subject has doubtful notability; article created by editor since blocked for sockpuppetry Mccapra (talk) 18:59, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete – A classic case of flying under the radar, though "radar" is a deceptive description owing to the lack of proactive editors among the community. Article has existed for over a dozen years and in that time never had any stub templates or Alaska-related categories added to it, nor has the talk page seen any additions beyond the WP Biography banner, which is customarily added to BLPs. Accomplishments as a dog musher are underwhelming, to say the least. I found the current link at the Iditarod website. It says that he's been "in the money" (finishing in the top twenty) in his Iditarod career, but it probably wasn't enough to cover his expenses. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 03:26, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete This article is a classic example of why Wikipedia needs a more morderated article creation process.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:46, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete No significant independent coverage. Just competing in the Iditarod doesn't make him notable.Sandals1 (talk) 18:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete How did this article survive for so long on WP without being AfD'ed. Zero notability and not even sourced (his bio link is broken) ???? Britishfinance (talk) 20:08, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
A. Roger Merrill
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Several source searches indicate that this subject does not meet
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- Delete I really don't know why there are so many Latter-day Saints bio's on wikipedia and a lot of them don't pass basic WP:GNG guidelines like this one. Northamerica1000 Maybe you can group them together into one AfD when you find them? Govvy (talk) 12:14, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
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- Delete: Per nom. Multiple AFD nominations can be challenging but if articles are primary self-sourced like this one I would imagine easier. Otr500 (talk) 00:16, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nom. Britishfinance (talk) 00:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:45, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Michael A. Neider
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Non-notable subject that fails
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- Delete - Nom says it all, there's nothing to verify notability here. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 10:47, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom. Britishfinance (talk) 00:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Current (health company)
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non notable company--sources refer only to early funding and do not meet
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- Delete The article in its current condition does not meet WP:GNG and my quick Google search likewise finds no supporting evidence of notability. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:10, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete No obvious sources of notability; small company using WP for promotional purposes. Britishfinance (talk) 01:37, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete As noted above there is no clear sign of notability and the article does rather read as being promotional. Dunarc (talk) 21:19, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Woah, slow down there, amigos! As the author of the page, I'd like to point out that I've created many articles on Wikipedia ranging from current businesses to biographies of women in British colonial history. This is not PR for a company, neither am I acting on their behalf. Secondly, this article has sources including The Guardian and BBC News. Clearly these are highly authoritative sources. There a multiple other sources for this company. FunkyCanute (talk) 14:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ]
24 Vesti
Non-notable TV channel with no sources of any kind. Fails
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- Keep. All licenced television broadcasters are notable. See https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%2224+Vesti%22+-wikipedia for lots of references. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:06, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep.
Christopher Y. Lew
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No evidence of any notability. Self promotion, passing mentions etc but nothing reliable and independent discussing the subject. Moved without review from Draft to mainspace by the author long before it might have been ready. Fails
]- Keep I respectfully disagree. I am in no way affiliated with the subject, just an art historian. This subject is worthy of an article in my opinion. Please see references that include NYTimes, artforum, and The Creative Independent. --Wil540 art (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2019 (UTC)--Wil540 art (talk) 03:47, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep this one is not so clear cut at first glance. The New York Times article used as the first ref is a namecheck and has no depth; on the other hand this W Magazine article has lots of depth. Enough sources are out there to establish GNG easily. Add to this the fact that he co-curated one of the Whitney Biennales (one of the top ten or twenty art exhibitions in the world) and you could probably make an argument that he meets some part of talk) 09:08, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
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- Keep agree per above and Google News results suggest sufficient notability. Hninthuzar (talk) 16:37, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- OMFG Strong Speedy Keep are you kidding me? 1) Nancy and Fred Poses Curator - named full curator 2) Curated the Whitney Biennial, which alone is enough 3) For better or for worse, was at the center of the Dana Schutz fiasco, along with Mia Locks (and which should probably be included this article. --Theredproject (talk) 17:57, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete.
San Diego Film Week
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This is of dubious notability at best and has been discretely spammed throughout wikipedia for the last two years but I can find no significant coverage and what little coverage is found, is hyper local. No evidence this meets
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- Delete Practically every city has a film festival and there is no indication this one is notable with anything beyond local coverage. Reywas92Talk 00:01, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to
Ipswich Rapid Transit
Non-notable guided busway, no evidence the name "Ipswich Rapid Transit" has ever been used. CoolSkittle (talk) 09:57, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment it's poorly named. A search for Ipswich guided busway brings up hits. I think it's a sourceable article - first guided busway in the UK, and I've seen a lot of mentions if not significant coverage, including from parliament. SportingFlyer T·C 10:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment The exact string comes up as a gscholar snippet in "Bus Rapid Transit: Worldwide History of Development, Key Systems and Policy Issues". I'll request it at the library to see if it has substantial content. SpinningSpark 03:16, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- It doesn't have in-depth content that would meet GNG, but if the article is kept, it can be used as a source to verify some basic facts. On page 248: 0.5 km route and first launched in 1994. It also gives some stuff not currently in the article: there were 739 passenger per day in 2010, and if I am reading the table correctly, there would seem to be only one bus. That last contradicts the article which uses the plural, but how many buses do you need for a 500m run? Also gets a mention in this book, but again, not in-depth. SpinningSpark 12:25, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: Unsourced. Snippets and sources with no in-depth coverage don't advance notability for NORG. Keeping the article so it "can be used as a source to verify some basic facts", Would be hard to imagine if there are no reliable sources to verify what might be called "facts". Otr500 (talk) 01:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete I couldn't find anything that supports WP:N. Also the article is completely unsourced which is a massive WP:V fail. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:51, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete/Redirect to WP:ATD. Over ten years on WP and not a single reference. Probably should be a delete as per nomination but happy as a Redirect also to preserve the text in case anybody has enough interest (unlikely) to make a proper article on this. Britishfinance (talk) 12:04, 16 February 2019 (UTC)]
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The result was delete. North America1000 17:07, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Dear Deadly
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No evidence of any
Please review my pages references. I apologize if I am not correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennymetalsh5 (talk • contribs) 10:34, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete: fails WP:BAND. Article creator (and commenter above) admits that he is the band's lead singer. No reliable independent sources found: the Chicago Reader reference is simply a gig listing, with no prose whatsoever. Richard3120 (talk) 18:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)]
- delete I find no significant independent coverage to meet the GNG and I also didn't find anything to show any standards of ]
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The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. The Keep !vote lacks any rational at all. However with only a single pro-delete comment I could not do more than close this as a "soft delete" which is precluded by the sole keep, however unimpressive it is. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:55, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
UK Music Video Awards
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As we may witness, the written content on the page is bolstered up mainly by primary sources. Nevertheless, some tertiary coverage is included, but these articles are mostly presented in a form of the list of winners/nominees rather than being actual journalistic pieces to be taken into account, though. I believe the criteria noted in
- Keep - but the article's tone could be re-written in places. Vorbee (talk) 09:27, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete The RS independent coverage seems to be all passing mentions or churned press releases, which fail ORGIND. buidhe 10:20, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment. 2018 UK Music Video Awards should have been bundled with this. postdlf (talk) 19:17, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Babylon 5. I take note of the clear consensus that this looks like a poorly sourced WP:OR mess and remind anyone engaged in the merge that only properly sourced material may be kept. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:00, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Babylon 5 influences
I would like to explain my nominating this article for deletion. I spent a great deal of time trying to find citations for the claims made in this article, and while I was successful in some cases, the vast majority of them are unsupported claims of similarity between the series and other works of fiction, or historical events, and not all are of sufficiently notable status.
Many of these claims may well be correct, and certainly seem plausible. Others are so vague and/or tenuous so as to make finding citations - when one is not the source of the edit - virtually impossible. In either case, without reliable sources I don't believe Wikipedia is the place for them. As pointed out on the talk page the article is a scattered mess anyway, and little better than a listicle in some places. There are plenty of B5 fan sites that point out perceived literary and historical parallels that don't have the same burdens for inclusion as Wikipedia.
In summary the portions of this article for which I could find sources are so few that what is left does not warrant a separate article. I have gathered together the elements for which I could find sources, and put them under a new 'Influences' heading in the main Babylon 5 article. I believe that removes the need to keep this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElectricalTill (talk • contribs)
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- Purge and Merge, per nom. Aside from JMS's statements acknowledging the show's homages and inspirations, there are very few WP:RS references available for this. It's a great topic for a paper, but as a textbook example of WP:OR, it doesn't belong on WP. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 14:46, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Article constantly quotes a "James Michael Straczynski," and I don't think Wikipedia needs an exhaustive list of all the inspirations of any media. Jeb3Talk at me here 16:27, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Jason A. Quest. The majority of the article is, as said, largely OR, and the actual cited elements (the statements from JMS himself, mostly) don't really need an article separate from the main Babylon 5 article. I was initially going to suggest merging those actual relevant bits of information to the main article, but I see that has already been done, and a must more succinct and better organized section with this information has already been created there. That being said, there is no reason to do anything here than a Deletion at this point. 169.232.162.112 (talk) 19:57, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Don't delete it, just replace it with a redirect to the main article. Anyone can then go and merge over anything worth merging whenever they feel like getting around to it. Dream Focus 01:59, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. I've moved and consolidated everything I could cite. I haven't checked printed literature, which may have usable sources, but a good few pages of google searches with various terms for each of the major claims. Most of it seems to be OR, conjecture, or claims so nebulous ("it seems," "a parallelization that can be made," "this is reminiscent of," "are similar to," "is often compared to," etc.) that it's difficult to even begin trying to find sources. Even citations from major sites like the Lurker's Guide are dubious IMO unless they're actually quoting JMS.ElectricalTill (talk) 10:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom and taking into account comment above that anything salvagable/mergable has been done (otherwise I would redirect, but wary that some redirects become resurrected). The WP:OR issue is just too great here – both in terms of the topic (how can it ever avoid OR), and even the text, so it is beyond a WP:TNT issue. You could imagine some material being salvaged in a short section on a Babylon 5 article under an "Influences" section (e.g. "Experts regard the following list as important influences on Bablyon 5 ......") that might be sufficiently brief that it is uncontraversial; although, it could still attract OR concerns if the experts are not the accepted experts. Not for a full seperate article. Britishfinance (talk) 20:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:01, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Bernard Hiller
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I was cleaning this up, but the moment you start cleaning the promotional crap out of an article like this, there's nothing left. There are no reliable sources, there are no real, verified achievements, even the filmography is questionable. So, remove per GNG--just another vanispam article, with heavy COI edits by a now-blocked person whose name is an awful lot like that of the subject. Drmies (talk) 22:35, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. Bernie Hiller has undoubtedly some influence as an acting coach. The documentary 'Pink Elephants' is about him and his work. And he was in some festival jurys. In my eyes, that makes him a relevant person. Sure, the article was pure advertising, but now it's better. The sources are o.k. and there is a criticism-section, too. As far as I know, Pink Elephants is only available in german. But at the latest when there are english subtitles in this documentary, people are asking for a Wikipedia article. Django.Muerte (talk) 23:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete: Per nom. The "Filmography" section is sourced with IMDb (user-generated) that is not reliable or acceptable as a reference. Otr500 (talk) 02:18, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Article is still so promitionally written. There are some references in RS, but media-BLPs throw up refences quickly (by definition from their industry). There is no proper article on the subject (as opposed to referring to him in the context of another subject) in a significant RS (e.g. NYT interview). A notable acting coach, given the industry, would have at least one strong interview in a major publication. Britishfinance (talk) 21:00, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was merge to
2019 Australian Open – Men's singles final
Contested PROD, none of the coverage of the
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- Keep the article certainly needs improvement, but calling all of the coverage of one of the two main matches of tennis' biggest tournament WP:ROUTINE? My first impression of this AfD is that it was a joke. See: [3] [4] [5] [6], et cetera. SportingFlyer T·C 20:21, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Merge to 2019 Australian Open – Men's Singles. This article just serves as a content fork. It is not common practice to have articles dedicated to tennis finals, even for Grand Slam tournaments. Ajf773 (talk) 20:45, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Keep as has plenty of non routine coverage as shown by Sporting Flyer. There are a number of similar articles on finals matches as shown in this category Category:Tennis matches, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 21:38, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge Just because an article can exist separately does not mean it should. No reason it cannot be merged to 2019 Australian Open – Men's Singles. Notability is only based on it being part of that tournament. Reywas92Talk 23:58, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Merge. Djokovic beat Nadal in straight sets, so the match doesn't warrant a separate article, unlike their 2012 classic. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:53, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep please see also 2013 Wimbledon Championships – Men's singles final. This article should be expanded.--Chinyen Lu (talk) 03:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment The 2013 Champiosnship is their because of history being created because of Andy Murray. This is a different kettle of fish. talk) 06:13, 15 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Comment The 2013 Champiosnship is their because of history being created because of Andy Murray. This is a different kettle of fish.
- Merge or Keep This article on first glance does not need a standalone article, but despite the straight sets, if the article is improved then I would favor a keep. As it is now, merging is better Garlicolive (talk) 19:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge This final wasn't a classic and wasn't an history defining final compared to some of the other ones that do have articles on here. I personally that it should merge into the talk) 06:28, 15 February 2019 (UTC)]
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:16, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Gabriel Brazão (footballer, born 2000)
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- Delete Doesn't meet any of the criteria on WP:CSD, so I'd be opposed to a speedy, but he's not notable either. Smartyllama (talk) 02:28, 10 February 2019 (UTC)]
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- Delete - I agree with the deletion, the criteria of notability alone does not warrant a need for an article on Wikipedia, maybe in the future if the player achieves notability the article would be reinstated.Garlicolive (talk) 22:10, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to
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- Author's comment. She's the lead actress in a movie that comes out April 9th 2019 with 5 actors that all have wikipedia pages — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junerock21 (talk • contribs) 16:01, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Redirect to the film she has a starring role in. If she gets another notable role the redirect can be undone. Clear case of ]
- Redirect Per above. Film will not get a wide release (online on-demand only) so even if the film is notable, that is not inherited by actors in it. Reywas92Talk 23:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect Per above. Britishfinance (talk) 21:07, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Brittany Lo
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Can't find decent sources to support notability under GNG. (Not a deletion rationale, but interesting: article was created by the (now blocked) user
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- Delete per nom. Indeed, WP:GNG is not met, and there is no claim of notability. GregorB (talk) 09:36, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete Not enough for GNG. There was a NewYorkTimes piece on make-up for weddings that gave her a mention (amongst others), but no actual material artical on her from an RS. Britishfinance (talk) 21:13, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Nate Iese
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- Delete I'm not finding any evidence the individual has played in an actual NFL or CFL game, so that's a failure of WP:GNG. There is a pre-season article at the Orange County Register where he got several paragraphs outlining the "anticipation" of what he could do, but by all measures I can find he didn't produce the results that this one article of hype predicted. There certainly are not a good selection of independent reliable sources that wrote about his efforts and I can find no other notability measure that points to a pass. Anyone have better/different research?--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:09, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete. I concur with Paul McDonald's research. He isn't listed as being on the team roster currently(according to the article here). 331dot (talk) 14:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable athlete.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 21:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per Paul McDonald and lack of significant coverage focused on him. With 46 catches and seven TDs in four years of play, he wasn't even a particularly significant contributor at UCLA. See here. Cbl62 (talk) 15:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Samie Bower
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This seems to be one of another attempts at creating an
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- Delete It's vanity spam and has no coverage in RS. Praxidicae (talk) 12:02, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete and Salt No notability, very promotional. Will need salting. Britishfinance (talk) 21:03, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per reasons stated above. A Google search yielded 7 pages of results, none of which were reliable sources. Gargleafg (talk) 01:30, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails WP: NMUSIC. StaticVapor message me! 22:54, 14 February 2019 (UTC)]
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The result was merge to
Daejeon Citizen in Asian football
Not enough list to separate an article, maybe we should merge to
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- Redirect/marge to section on main article, in the same way as ]
- Speedy merge A list with a single item is obviously not something that needs a separate page, sheesh. Please just be bold and merge in such blatant cases and come to AFD or start a discussion in the unlikely chance it's objected to. Reywas92Talk 23:40, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to
Jeju United in Asian football
Not enough list to separate an article, maybe we should merge to Jeju United FC Hhkohh (talk) 05:30, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Redirect/marge to section on main article, in the same way as ]
- Speedy merge Per my comment at Jeju United in Asian football. This content can be in a separate article when article and section length requires it but that should never be the default. Reywas92Talk 23:45, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Merge redirect per above suggestion. Govvy (talk) 14:03, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge & Redirect to main article, per past consensuses on similar AFDs. Inter&anthro (talk) 23:10, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:56, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Bajju Rajput
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Still seems to be problematic. Recreated some time ago after a previous "soft delete" AfD. - Sitush (talk) 20:24, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Given that this was "soft" deleted and re-created already, it would be highly desirable to get more input for a firm decision this time.
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- Delete No sources and no substance, the article is pretty much useless. Doradafan (talk) 03:46, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Couldn't even find it on Google Maps. Sorry, I vote delete also. Theweekndeditor (talk) 01:57, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge into Rajput and/or Rajput clans (perhaps others?). This is way out of my realm of expertise, but, unless there are more definitive and comprehensive sources out there discussing the group, I don't see why this page needs to exist in a standalone capacity. Mentioning the group in one of the pages I listed above might be more appropriate if there are sources available. Gargleafg (talk) 01:42, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:52, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Firepower Records
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The only sources I could find for this record label today refer to the 2018 sexual allegations of its founder, Datsik (musician) as well as the songs signed to this label. No other significant coverage can be found, but I do not believe the 2018 events are enough to satisfy independent notability for the record label. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 00:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Only two references (three technically), only one of which (UKF) actually being reliable and usable. Writing format seems biased and unprofessional. Artist section had a bunch of seemingly random (or previously part of the label?) artists added to the list that aren't listed in the reference. Beatport cannot be used as a source in any case, including as a discography page reference. Micro (Talk) 03:25, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Just as a comment, I'm not convinced even UKF is reliable... it's essentially the work of one man, Dave Jenkins. There are a couple of other contributors listed, but absolutely no biographical information about them, so we have no idea of their credentials, they could just be unpaid volunteers. Richard3120 (talk) 12:54, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete: fail WP:PROMO. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:24, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete: I agree it fails ]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
The Grove (Downers Grove, Illinois)
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Only coverage is local and routine. No significant coverage. Jmertel23 (talk) 00:14, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment. This shopping center has a total area of 204,762 sq ft, according to Edgemark Commercial Real Estate Services LLC, and 400,000 square feet according to RD Management LLC. Coverage by Chicago media is regional rather than local. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. There are many articles of shopping centers of this size. This article does a good job of documenting changes to the center to deal with a changing situation. As the documentation of a single site it is dull, but as a reflection of the changing face of commerce it is worthwile. GeorgeofOrange (talk) 02:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Doesn't that fall under ]
- delete I don't see any coverage that looks like it qualifies for meeting the GNG. Of the four references given one is from the management company, one doesn't mention the center at all, one gives it a passing mention as one of the closing Ultra locations, and the final one says it's been foreclosed on and will be put up for sale (]
- Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)]
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The result was keep. Copyright issues should be addressed by revdels. I can do this if you indicate exactly which revisions need to be deleted. Randykitty (talk) 18:45, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Benedetta Dubini
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Spam bordering on
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- Delete User:Lucifero4
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- Keep - WP:NOTCLEANUP Added some RS and minor clean up. Needs more work but doesn't need to be deleted. StrayBolt (talk) 17:46, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Keep The article could really use someone who speaks French and Italian to add sources. They exist, but I can't read them (You can see some of these here). The sources that are here are hit or miss. Some aren't great, but the Wallpaper articles are good and the other sources in other languages make me say she passes GNG. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 03:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep As above, really struggling to get good quality English articles. Most are in Italian and some French. Subject matter is also part of Wikiproject Women. This project addresses the under-representation of content on Wikipedia about women (both real and fictional) and covering women's perspectives. Only 17% of Wikipedia biographies are about women. Agree I also believe she passes GNG. Equine-man (talk) 15:53, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:43, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
A Fox In Space
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Fails
- This isn't a game, it's an animated web series. Iffy★Chat -- 16:40, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Iffy Thanks. Aurornisxui (talk) 16:48, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - A fairly unnotable bit of fan work. The article from the A.V. Club, which is the only valid reference currently in the article, appears to be the only reliable secondary source out there. Searching for more brings up nothing further except for mentions in blogs or user comments, neither of which can be used to establish notability. 169.232.162.112 (talk) 17:24, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - Although the series is very well animated, there isn't much secondary sources that exist. I searched it on Google, and it was only talked about around April 26, 2016. Unless the series grows, an article shouldn't exist. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 02:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: D. Randykitty (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Discus (comics)
Does not meet
- Keep or merge into List of Marvel Comics characters: D or List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. No need to delete when merge is a valid option. BOZ (talk) 21:02, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - Generic term, and current target fails WP:GNG--Killer Moff (talk) 14:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
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- Keep or merge I agree with BOZ above. Merge into List of Marvel Characters or Luke Cage supporting characters. I don't believe it deserves its own page. Theweekndeditor (talk) 02:01, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. A possible merge can be discussed on the article talk page. Randykitty (talk) 18:38, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Armless Tiger Man
Does not meet
- Keep per sources noted below supporting the WP:GNG, or failing that merge into List of Marvel Comics characters: A or List of Marvel Comics Golden Age characters. No need to delete when merge is a valid option. BOZ (talk) 20:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)]
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- Delete - No toher likely target and fails WP:GNG. --Killer Moff (talk) 14:55, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Redirect/Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: A. An extremely minor character, whose only sources are primary. However, his name is unusual enough that it could be a valid search term, so a redirect and selective merge would be fine. 169.232.162.112 (talk) 17:17, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep Cracked has an entertaining account of the character and it's not difficult to find similar coverage elsewhere. The nomination's assertion about the WP:GNG is therefore false while its claims about Wikia are remarkably irrelevant. Andrew D. (talk) 10:10, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
- The information provided from the Marvel Wikia goes directly to a lack of significance within the fiction. Marvel has published 60+ comics a month for almost 80 years. A character appearing in only 8 of those says a lot about his lack of importance. Argento Surfer (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete does not meet my criteria for merging or redirect. Coverage of the character in list articles of oddball comic characters doesn't demonstate notability. Argento Surfer (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Passes the WP:GNG. Comic Book Resources gives significant coverage to the character at [7] Screen Rant mention him at [8]. This and other coverage found and mentioned count. Dream Focus 00:15, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
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The result was no consensus. A possible merge can be discussed on the talk page. Randykitty (talk) 18:37, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Asbestos Man
Does not meet
- Keep per evidence below of meeting the WP:GNG, or failing that merge into List of Marvel Comics characters: A or Great Lakes Avengers. No need to delete when merge is a valid option. BOZ (talk) 21:18, 31 January 2019 (UTC)]
- There is not really any evidence proving Wp:GNG yet though that I know of IMO. Jhenderson 777 01:55, 5 February 2019 (UTC)]
- There is not really any evidence proving
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- Keep - Looks like it passes GNG to me, based on reference 6, and these: [9]] and [[10]]. --Killer Moff (talk) 14:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- No not really. Absestos Lady gets more coverage and she is even more obscure. All those sources are broke too. Jhenderson 777 22:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Reference six, as well as both of the sources you tried linking to here, are just blogs. Blogs are generally not considered reliable secondary sources for the purposes of passing the GNG.169.232.162.112 (talk) 17:07, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- No not really. Absestos Lady gets more coverage and she is even more obscure. All those sources are broke too. Jhenderson 777 22:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep comic book character that passes GNG. Wikiman5676 (talk) 03:54, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge: Both Asbestos Lady and Asbestos Man were only notable for one thing. For being asbestos type villains to their flaming counterpart. But they are extremely minor and they didn’t last long. Not enough coverage. I wish he appeared more since he is a Stan Lee original but he has passes on in both in real life and in-universe. Jhenderson 777 22:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: A. The few sources provided that are not the comics themselves are blogs and official marvel handbooks. These do not meet the requirements of being reliable secondary sources. However, they do provide enough that I think a merge would be appropriate. 169.232.162.112 (talk) 17:14, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep Appears in The Supervillain Handbook, The Encyclopedia of Super Villains and The Rough Guide to Superheroes and so passes the ]
- No. These are primary sources where any Marvel character or super villains can appear. You need to read GNG again. Jhenderson 777 15:50, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - does not meet my criteria for a merge or redirect. Argento Surfer (talk) 21:30, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: A. Appeared in media popular enough that someone might want to read about it, but that doesn't require its own article. - WPGA2345 - ☛ 01:05, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to The Fall of the Mutants. Any content worth merging is still available from the article history. Randykitty (talk) 18:36, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Ani-Mator
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- Redirect to WP:GNG, but no other likely target, and target article provides enough context. Character's involvement in major event in target's story justifies redirect. --Killer Moff (talk) 14:00, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
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- Redirect to The Fall of the Mutants. 21:32, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:35, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Fixx
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- Keep or merge into List of Marvel Comics characters: F or List of X-Men members. No need to delete when merge is a valid option. BOZ (talk) 20:16, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - Fails WP:GNG. Suspect is more likely to be a typo than a valid search term. --Killer Moff (talk) 15:52, 1 February 2019 (UTC)]
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- Delete - does not meet my criteria for a merge or redirect. Argento Surfer (talk) 21:23, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to
Black Fox (Robert Paine)
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- Redirect to Marvel: The Lost Generation. Valid search term but nothing of any worth in preserving. --Killer Moff (talk) 13:42, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Redirect per Killer Moff. 21:12, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America1000 17:22, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Abir Ibrahim
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I see no reason why this page passes
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- Delete - most of these sources are not reliable/independent. Those that are, fail Sig Cov. I am confident that an article on Inua Naturals would be sufficiently notable, but Abir is usually only covered in short detail before going on about Inua. This sourcing issue is duplicated elsewhere. I don't believe any of her positions or awards are so large as to demonstrate notability in themselves. As a side note, the article is also a mix of advertorial and a CV. Nosebagbear (talk) 21:32, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:SPS. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:25, 8 February 2019 (UTC)]
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The result was no consensus. Apart from the nom there is only one participant in this debate, who argues for a merge. If that is an acceptable solution, that can be handled on the talk pages of these articles. If not, no prejudice to taking this to AfD again in, say, 2 months time, hoping on a wider participation. Randykitty (talk) 18:32, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Golden Grand Prix Ivan Yarygin 2019 – Men's freestyle 70 kg
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While this GrandPrix event is notable, it doesn't mean that all subevents (individual gender/weight classes) have the necessary notability to support stand-alone pages. Fails
If we compare it to other sports with multiple subevents, it looks as if neither athletics, judo or karate have similar pages, apart from major championships (World, Olympic), where this is generally accepted. It is rare for such subevents to get the sustained coverage needed for an individual page, usually they get reported upon when they happen, and after that are just passing mentions or lines in databases.
For the same reason are also nominated:
- Golden Grand Prix Ivan Yarygin 2019 – Men's freestyle 57 kg
- Golden Grand Prix Ivan Yarygin 2019 – Men's freestyle 61 kg
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- Comment Not that I disagree with the nomination but I'm not sure AfD is the right solution here. It makes more sense to simply be bold and merge all content of the three subpages to ]
- 'Comment number 2 I just found Category:Golden Grand Prix Ivan Yarygin 2017 and Category:Golden Grand Prix Ivan Yarygin 2018. Whatever we decide here should probably apply to all articles in these categories and it might make sense to either add them to this nomination or at least notify the articles' creators about this AfD. Pichpich (talk) 19:50, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America1000 17:16, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Physical Presents
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Cannot find enough sources to confirm WP:GNG. Britishfinance (talk) 19:41, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete: does not meet WP:NCORP. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:17, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
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The result was no consensus to delete, after greatly extended time for discussion. bd2412 T 03:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Jon Jashni
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This is a connected-editor puff-piece, with enough references to give the impression that the person is
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]- Meh... I don't remember much other than keeping tabs on it for a while after accepting. Was definitely in the category of a "borderline accept". I have no strong opinions but would personally say that he's not notable just for being someone who has done things. Primefac (talk) 16:08, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Kvng – I'd meant to do that but it seems to have slipped my mind. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:31, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Meh... I don't remember much other than keeping tabs on it for a while after accepting. Was definitely in the category of a "borderline accept". I have no strong opinions but would personally say that he's not notable just for being someone who has done things. Primefac (talk) 16:08, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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thousands of behind-the-scenes people
, well' I wouldn't call President a one of "thousands of behind-the scenes people".talk) 22:01, 31 January 2019 (UTC)]- Borderline keep. NOtability's are just guidelines to weed unquestionalbe cases. This one in borderline hence special consideration. I's say by the sum of facts (President; twice direct producer; press coverage, although routine, but verifies his activities, not just PR hype. talk)
- Borderline keep. NOtability's are just guidelines to weed unquestionalbe cases. This one in borderline hence special consideration. I's say by the sum of facts (President; twice direct producer; press coverage, although routine, but verifies his activities, not just PR hype.
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- Keep Passes WP:SIGCOV. Found him in 8 magazines in the first 16 references, discussing a wide range of films at Legendary Entertainment. Seems to be ok. scope_creepTalk 10:36, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
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The result was delete. After extended time for review, consensus is clear. bd2412 T 16:33, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Friary Bowling Club
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A historic club, apparently formed in 1820, but nothing notable seems to have happened in the two centuries since! There are no relevant sources in the page except a book that I cannot find any reference to and I have found no other sources that deal in depth with this club. I had hoped that there was a possibility of adding a mention in the Friary's page but, despite the Friary being quite possibly notable, it has no article. This page has had no substantive content addition since creation in April 2013. Fails
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- Delete -- an undistinguished amateur sports club, so far as I can see, even if older than many. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:00, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as I couldn't find a single informative source outside of Wikipedia. Gargleafg (talk) 01:52, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. After extended time for discussion, there are three firm !votes to keep, premised on a reasonable examination of available sources, two firm !votes to delete, and one !vote leaning delete. Normally, the nominator would be counted as a vote to delete, but in this case User:Balkywrest as nominator has been blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Septrillion. It would be odd to give substantial weight to the opinion of a sockpuppet in a discussion, and no less so as nominator. Thus, although the opinion of the nominator is not discounted entirely, it must be given little weight in the outcome here. Given the previous extension of time for this discussion, and the tendency over the course of the discussion for additional sources to be found, relisting this nomination in expectation of a different consensus seems an unwise use of resources. The article can clearly be improved by the addition of sources raised in the discussion, and those supporting its inclusion should consider taking on this task. bd2412 T 02:02, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Riskified
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Sources are insufficient to prove notability. Balkywrest (talk) 22:32, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Leaning delete: all of the sources, even the ones which appear "major", are actually blog-like, such as the WSJ one. SITH (talk) 14:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - When you take away the routine funding announcements and brief mentions, there are sources that meet ]
- Comment The WSJ reference is even listed as a blog post on Riskified's website ... HighKing++ 12:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Comment The WSJ reference is even listed as a blog post on Riskified's website ...
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- Delete: Does not meet WP:TOOSOON per review of available sources. K.e.coffman (talk) 17:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Keep. There's a Globes ([12]) as a source, but it appears reliable and is a national newspaper, so I assume this article can be counted towards notability as well. Lastly, there's a Mother Jones article ([13]) which is definitely a green-light reliable source, and is definitely not biased in favor of this company. That's decent press in two countries. - WPGA2345 - ☛ 01:13, 10 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete None of the sources meet the criteria for establishing notabilty. The Globes article is an interview with the founders, not intellectually independent, fails HighKing++ 12:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Keep I feel like there are plenty of sources available that do not amount to churnalism. In addition to the other sources noted on here, there are two articles from The Wall Street Journal (one's a WSJ blog, but it's still a highly reputable source) and there's one from Reuters. Also, a Google News search reveals a number of sources, many of which are funding announcements. I realize that's not a way to contribute to notability, but those sources are at least supplemental. Maybe reworking the draft might help. Gargleafg (talk) 01:06, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete and redirect to 2006 United States Senate election in Utah. bd2412 T 02:12, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Pete Ashdown
Looking at the sourcing the only sourcing that is indepdent and reliable is connected with his run for US senate. The problem is we have decided that not all candidates for public office are default notable, but the coverage he got is just at the level any candidate can expect. The last discussion 14 years ago was clearly misguided, it included such gems of early Wikipedia thought as a keep vote that essentially boiled down to "keep because Ilike the fact that this candidate set his campaign website up as a .org website and not a .com website". I am less than convinced that a website that aims to get you put in a position where you get oaid should be anything other than .com, but I clearly do not think either way should influence inclusion in Wikipedia. John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, a well written page but the subject has very small claims to noteworthiness. Delete supported. Gumsaint (talk) 00:40, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. Our notability standards for politicians have evolved significantly since 2005, so the first discussion is not determinative in and of itself. At that time, there was still some support for the idea that non-winning candidates for office should be considered notable enough for articles, though that's been much more definitively quashed in the intervening 14 years — now, the standards that a non-winning candidate for political office would have to pass are that either (a) he can be shown to already have had preexisting notability for other reasons, independent of the candidacy, that would have gotten him an article on those other grounds anyway, or (b) he can be shown to have received so much more coverage than most other candidates also got that he has a credible claim to being special. So he might get over our notability standards for businesspeople if somebody could reference his work as CEO of an internet provider much better than this, but simply saying that he was CEO of an internet provider without sourcing the claim at all doesn't get him past condition A — and there's definitely no evidence of condition B on the table here at all. Bearcat (talk) 21:51, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I just added a reference to the front page Salt Lake Tribune profile of him as the XMission CEO in 2004. There are dozens of hits in newspaper databases pre-politics (mid-90s to early 00s), basically because when any paper in Utah needed a quote or example in internet-related coverage they would call up the local internet company CEO. talk) 03:11, 9 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Delete - Delete as a non-notable businessman and failed political candidate that only garnered such coverage as candidates might expect. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:30, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to 2006 United States Senate election in Utah. Best, GPL93 (talk) 18:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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