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- Küplüceli Öznur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This was nominated for speedy deletion as a blatant hoax, and I want to thank user Kerim Demirkaynak for bringing this to our attention. I removed the speedy deletion template. While I agree that it is probably a hoax, I'm not absolutely sure. I tried to locate sources, and came across [1]. While not suitable as a reliable source, this gives a lot more information about the subject than the Wikipedia article or any of its translations. That could be part of the hoax, but I believe that it warrants a closer look.
Even if not a hoax, this article should be deleted as it doesn't meet general notability standards. Renerpho (talk) 17:04, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, and Women. Renerpho (talk) 17:04, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- In User talk:Erdyuksel#re Küplüceli Öznur from February 2011, a few days after the creation of the English article, user Herostratus mentions a (no longer existing?) Turkish Wikipedia article, which apparently had additional content that Herostratus suggested might be used to expand the English article. I don't think anything ever came of that. Renerpho (talk) 17:51, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- https://eksisozluk.com/entry/176399582 Creator of the article confessed what she did there. Kolhisli (talk) 17:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- That's what I was looking for, thanks Kolhisli! English translation at [2]. Renerpho (talk) 17:59, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've added back the speedy deletion template. This removes all doubts for me. Renerpho (talk) 18:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- That's what I was looking for, thanks Kolhisli! English translation at [2]. Renerpho (talk) 17:59, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- https://eksisozluk.com/entry/176399582 Creator of the article confessed what she did there. Kolhisli (talk) 17:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Kerim Demirkaynak write on the article talk page that
This article seems to be a hoax. The subject does not exist and was created as a joke or trolling by a university student. No verifiable sources exist.
What evidence is there to corroborate those details, that the author created it as a joke and that they were a university student? Did they admit to writing the hoax somewhere? Renerpho (talk) 17:54, 28 June 2025 (UTC)- @Kolhisli: Any idea what this edit from January 2024 is about? The editor knew that it was a hoax, and they knew details about its inception. That edit was reverted 3 days later. Renerpho (talk) 18:10, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- The information in this edit contradicts the information in the eksisozluk link I posted, since it was admitted that the wikipedia article was created by high school students. However, the same student may have later studied at Boğaziçi University and spread the prank among the students of Boğaziçi University. https://tr.linkedin.com/posts/mkadirtan_k%C3%BCpl%C3%BCceli-%C3%B6znurun-hikayesini-biliyor-musunuz-activity-7328831347366559745-kCqE Kolhisli (talk) 18:25, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sigh. I hate hoaxes. Renerpho (talk) 18:30, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- The information in this edit contradicts the information in the eksisozluk link I posted, since it was admitted that the wikipedia article was created by high school students. However, the same student may have later studied at Boğaziçi University and spread the prank among the students of Boğaziçi University. https://tr.linkedin.com/posts/mkadirtan_k%C3%BCpl%C3%BCceli-%C3%B6znurun-hikayesini-biliyor-musunuz-activity-7328831347366559745-kCqE Kolhisli (talk) 18:25, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Kolhisli: Any idea what this edit from January 2024 is about? The editor knew that it was a hoax, and they knew details about its inception. That edit was reverted 3 days later. Renerpho (talk) 18:10, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- In User talk:Erdyuksel#re Küplüceli Öznur from February 2011, a few days after the creation of the English article, user Herostratus mentions a (no longer existing?) Turkish Wikipedia article, which apparently had additional content that Herostratus suggested might be used to expand the English article. I don't think anything ever came of that. Renerpho (talk) 17:51, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Poetry and Turkey. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:29, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I mean, look. For individual statements of fact, we aim for 99.3% confidence that it's true. That's the best we can humanly do. That is not met by facts of which it can be said "most probably true" let alone "could be true" or "might not be false". So, "While I agree that it is probably a hoax, I'm not absolutely sure" is um well short of the confidence we need to state a fact, let alone keep a whole article. The statement admitting guilt by the hoaxers, above, is pretty damning. It could itself be a hoax, but I doubt it. Finally, the Turks deleted their article in 2017. While that doesn't prove anything, it's not an endorsement for the article existing here if the Turks themselves don't want it. Herostratus (talk) 18:36, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree. I've added back the speedy deletion template. Finding a source from close to the article's inception, with information that was not present in the article, was enough to cast doubts for me. It seems that all of that came from the Turkish article, which was longer than the English one. I've since found an archived version of that here. Renerpho (talk) 18:43, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- International Coordination of Revolutionary Parties and Organizations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Since this article was created in 2011, it has been based almost entirely on citations to sources either from the ICOR itself or from its affiliate members. Attempts to find coverage in
As I have been unable to find
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- Comment. I believe there may be a language / coverage issue, as this is English Wikipedia, and there are two or three English-speaking organizations within ICOR. I will look into it this week. Castroonthemoon (talk) 21:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Most online sources I found were either non-independent or were not in-depth. The one book cited in the article was written by Stefan Engel, former chairman of the MLPD, a member organization of ICOR. Kovcszaln6 (talk) 08:19, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- It's not looking good for significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 02:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. I have looked into international reports on the organization. There's a surprising amount of information surrounding the group's involvement in Syria, and the hospital that the group built. Castroonthemoon (talk) 05:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm leaning towards Keep Castroonthemoon (talk) 05:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Unless Castroonthemoon can cite specific sources with significant coverage, I'm leaning delete. The only mention in Swiss media is [3]. Toadspike [Talk] 08:55, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Of the sources used in the article, I believe [4][5][6][7][8] satisfy requirements. Castroonthemoon (talk) 17:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- The first one is a single-sentence passing mention: "Finally, anarchist volunteers organized another unit at the end of March 2017, the International Revolutionary People's Guerrilla Forces (IRPGF), declared as an "informal anarchist armed organization" whose purpose of armed struggle was placed beyond Kurdish issues, in a global perspective." (via Google Translate). The second link is exactly the same page as the first. The third is another single-sentence passing mention ("Hinter dem Projekt steht das linke Bündnis "Internationale Koordinierung revolutionärer Parteien und Organisationen" (ICOR), das um die marxistisch-leninistische Partei Deutschlands (MLPD) gebildet wurde.") The fourth consists entirely of quotes from someone who has been "supported" by ICOR, which is not independentcoverage. The fifth isn't independent either – it has no byline and is basically a call for donations by the head of ICOR, ending with their bank info.
- None of these sources satisfy the requirements of the ]
- In this case, I believe that the fact that they receive coverage satisfies notability requirements. It's a niche, political topic that isn't going to receive much coverage, especially by Western press, thus I believe that WP:IAR applies in this scenario. I don't think we will find a point of agreement on this, but I think that merging this article into the Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany article is worth considering, per my POC below. Castroonthemoon (talk) 07:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)]
- In this case, I believe that the fact that they receive coverage satisfies notability requirements. It's a niche, political topic that isn't going to receive much coverage, especially by Western press, thus I believe that
- The first one is a single-sentence passing mention: "Finally, anarchist volunteers organized another unit at the end of March 2017, the International Revolutionary People's Guerrilla Forces (IRPGF), declared as an "informal anarchist armed organization" whose purpose of armed struggle was placed beyond Kurdish issues, in a global perspective." (via Google Translate). The second link is exactly the same page as the first. The third is another single-sentence passing mention ("Hinter dem Projekt steht das linke Bündnis "Internationale Koordinierung revolutionärer Parteien und Organisationen" (ICOR), das um die marxistisch-leninistische Partei Deutschlands (MLPD) gebildet wurde.") The fourth consists entirely of quotes from someone who has been "supported" by ICOR, which is not
- Of the sources used in the article, I believe [4][5][6][7][8] satisfy requirements. Castroonthemoon (talk) 17:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Point of Consideration. I believe the article should be kept, but to those in-favor of deletion, I think there's a solid case to be made that the page should be merged with the Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany article, given that they seem to be the driving force behind most of the organizations actions and statements, as well as the fact that Stefan Engel (or his wife), the former chairman of MLPD, comes up almost everywhere ICOR does Castroonthemoon (talk) 17:43, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yaz (EP) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Turkey. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 06:30, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Mor ve ötesi: No SIGCOV in RS. No awards, charting or certified gold. Only sources are streaming, lyrics, YT and social media. Some sources in Turkish talk about the song Yaz Yaz Yaz but not the album. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 01:56, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any more support for redirect ATD?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 18:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Association for Liberal Thinking (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Last
]- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, and Turkey. LibStar (talk) 01:13, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - the article editor Qwertyx~enwiki changed their ID years ago. I am not aware if they are an active user. The only two references are from the home page of Association for Liberal Thinking. — Maile (talk) 02:00, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- If they have "~enwiki" in their name, I think that means their account was ]
- Merge to WP:ORG for its own article but a search yields enough references that it could be included elsewhere. Surayeproject3 (talk) 01:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Is there more support for a Merger or should this article just be Deleted?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:23, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hakan Akbas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Questionable if it meets
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- Comment - Akbas appears to have no article on the Turkish Wikipedia (or any other). --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 02:22, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – He has coverage in national and international media and has appeared as a commentator on major news channels including NTV, CNN, and CNBC. That makes him notable. Here are some links of his appearances in reliable media outlets: [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tacmocc (talk • contribs) 15:24, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 18:32, 20 June 2025 (UTC) - Appearing in media does not grant notability. Geschichte (talk) 06:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Agent 007 (talk) 18:08, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
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