Talk:AC Milan/Archive 1

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Boca won recently the Recopa Sudamericana. Now, Boca and Milan have the same number of international titles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.49.121.227 (talk) 03:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The ReCup and the SuperCup are shams. Don't group those sham cups with more important international cups. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.129.84.116 (talk) 12:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Milan is officially recognized as "The Most Sucessful Club in the World."

Costacurta wearing no 19 not 5!

Pawz

And Giuseppe Meazza played for both, AC Milan & Inter!

Pawz (11:34, 15 July 2005 UTC)

Costacurta got the no. 5 shirt back when Redondo left two years ago. Mark —The preceding

Isn't a 'Best XI' section inherently POV? (See NPOV). Cursive 20:46, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Support for remove of this section. No such POV's should be in encyclopedias. --

Monkbel

20:39, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Isn't the list of external links growing rather too long? This isn't some sort of an advertising space. --Aabha 15:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

No! Milan is one of the most important football clubs in the world. This article needs to be enhanced and expanded and then there will be capacity for even more links. --Kane december 05

Obviouslly, Was made by a Milan's FAN. ¿the best team of Europe for play in UCL Quarter of Final this season? Hmmmmmm... —The preceding

Seems he is not retired. acmilan.com Matt86hk talk 05:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't Add Rubbish Information! -Adri K.-

I saw someone added information that Buffon and Ibrahimovic (he wrote 'Ibraimovic') will join Milan. He added those two names at the bottom of 'In' list in transfer section. I've deleted it.

And then I saw the words 'Rossoneri' in first paragraph was changed into 'shevgarchenkos'. I've changed it into 'Rossoneri'. —The preceding

Who the hell is behind the 'Possible' in transfer section...? The informations there is rubbish... that's just an extremely minor speculation which will not be fit in an encyclopedia. Adri K. 14:38, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you,many of that players are most likely impossible to come to AC Milan. --Tiago Heitor 21:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Squad number & youth players

Should youth players which granted squad numbers add into squad?[1]. And source of 06/07 squad numbers ? Matt86hk talk 04:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Amoroso

Amoroso still need to play Tim TROPHY, why listed on transfer list? Matt86hk talk 04:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Youth Team

Where is George Weah jr., Matteo Ardemagni ? Matt86hk talk 16:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

The list should be alphabatized by players' last names. The way it is set up now, they are listed by country, then alphabatized, but the way the countries are listed follows no rhyme or reason.~~Kane 7/10/06

Jose Altafini

Altafini played for both Brazil and Italy. I'm not sure with nationality placement in 'Famous Players' section, but both Edgar Davids and Clarence Seedorf have two flags, Holland and Suriname. --Adri K. 16:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Adri K.

The change their nationality. policy can borrow from List of nationality transfers in football. Matt86hk talk 07:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

No, that's not my point. What I was trying to ask is: Edgar Davids and Clarence Seedorf, both from Suriname. They have never played for Suriname, but they still have two flags. Jose Altafini played for both Brazil and Italy, but he only have one flag.

What I was trying to explain: could we add that Brazil flag so Altafini will also have two flags?Adri K. 03:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

-Rapini talk 06:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes u are right. uefa.com Matt86hk talk 07:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Milan won 1-0 (I added that, and also added that the two teams will be playing again August 22 in Belgrade)-Rapini —The preceding

Someone (User:71.106.170.106 Talk) removed the section about supporter [2] . Should add back into the page? Matt86hk talk 07:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the removal; and seeing as how there is no "documentation" here as to why the removal was good, I'll forward the following: The content is very

opinionated and lacks justification (i.e. citation from a respectable source). If the original author of that section thinks its significant enough to warrant inclusion, they should bring up some backing evidence. akuyume^T_C

02:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

That's about football culture. Neither Inter or Milan fans denies about that, is part of their history. Now, what do you want? a table about the percentages of left wing fans in the team? How do you get documentation about that?... by the people who lived it. —The preceding

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) 00:27, 3 November 2006 UTC.

Info about supporters were true (and can be verified on the Italian wikipedia). However, it would be better to add a supporters section like the ones of english clubs (e.g.

Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea). – Luxic

16:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure about the removal of that section because the information are quite relative. However everyone need to know about that, so the Supporters section must be restored.--Adri K. 16:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoa... innecesary information?. I'm sure the one who made that deletion has never put a foot on a stadium and it's a "TV fan". Every club page should have information about what the members of that club like or why they feel that on their teams. It's valuable information for the true football fan who likes to know about real and important history of the clubs, aside of wich famous player played there. The restore of that info is necessary for the football culture. —The preceding

Secondo un sondaggio effettuato dalla società demoscopica Demos, commissionato dal quotidiano La Repubblica e pubblicato il 24 agosto 2007, il Milan risulta avere il 23% del tifo nazionale, dietro alla Juventus (28%) e davanti all'Inter (16%)[1]. In un sondaggio sul tifo calcistico del luglio 2007 ad opera dell'istituto giudato da Renato Mannheimer (Ispo), pubblicato da La Gazzetta dello Sport, il Milan ha il 12,4% delle preferenze del campione, dietro la Juventus (17,4%), davanti all'Inter (11%), e con il primato (20,3%) nella fascia Under-24, la quota più importante del mercato del tifo calcistico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicco82 (talk • contribs) 15:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

The home shorts are black they are only usually white to prevent a kit clash (on derby day for example)

Should this be changed ? —The preceding

Secondo un sondaggio effettuato dalla società demoscopica Demos, commissionato dal quotidiano La Repubblica e pubblicato il 24 agosto 2007, il Milan risulta avere il 23% del tifo nazionale, dietro alla Juventus (28%) e davanti all'Inter (16%)[1]. In un sondaggio sul tifo calcistico del luglio 2007 ad opera dell'istituto giudato da Renato Mannheimer (Ispo), pubblicato da La Gazzetta dello Sport, il Milan ha il 12,4% delle preferenze del campione, dietro la Juventus (17,4%), davanti all'Inter (11%), e con il primato (20,3%) nella fascia Under-24, la quota più importante del mercato del tifo calcistico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.66.160.41 (talk) 14:59, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Milan didn't go the whole season 1991-92 without losing a match. They didn't lose in the League, but they lost in the Cup against Juventus. I just checked in the RSSSF Archive. 80.2.208.247 20:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC) Mark

Milan 0-0 Arsenal good game

I have removed this image from the article, and placed it in here for now. Partly because the image does not show Kaka actually scoring against Manchester United as stated in the comment. Also, the image was added not long after the final whistle, which seems rather quick to take a photo at the match and get it on here.♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 22:54, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Look at the similarity [3]. Curious, isn't it?!? --Angelo 00:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, yes, and well found!! I notice the image is already listed for deletion. The user who added it seems to have a habit of adding copyrighted infringed images. What is the point? ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 01:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Why have a list of them, link them and write nothing about them. Are they really of interest to anyone? Berlesconi and Alfred Edwards aside do we need to have any more there? 86.149.209.189 16:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Urby Emanuelson has just been added as a Current squad member, but he is not one yet. Under the current deal between Ajax and AC Milan, Emanuelson will only move during the summer transfer window. There is no agreement (yet?) on him leaving Ajax right now. 83.84.195.88 (talk) 14:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I removed him. We need to wait an official announcement by the club. Until then, you can revert on sight. Luxic (talk) 15:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

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alessandro trabatoni (chiropractor) and the rest of the medical team he worked with have been replaced and no longer work for nor have ANY affiliation with ac milan.

Milan have changed their Medical staff and this is what they had to say on their official site ACMilan.com:

"A.C. Milan communicates that Dr Rodolfo Tavana is taking over as Chief Medical Officer on July 1. At the same time, the club thanks Dr Gianluca Melegati and his staff for the work done over the course of the season. Dr Melegati explained his departure with the following words: "Unfortunately, the numerous engagements prevent me and my staff, formed by Dr Maurizio Gevi and Dr Alessandro Trabattoni, from continuing our collaboration with A.C. Milan. We remain emotionally attached to club and to its exceptional personnel, along with whom we had the chance to contribute to the team's Serie A campaign that finished with A.C. Milan winning its 18th league title" In addition, Dr Tavana has already worked for Milan, from the beginning of the Berlusconi era and until 2003, as Club Doctor and Coordinator of the Medical Department. His return to the Rossoneri club has a special meaning.

press release from ac milan

Trafalgar1805 (talk) 09:04, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

 Done Luxic (talk) 12:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

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There is not much about Milan History, Can i edit/Write more about them ?

Maradona17 (talk) 23:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. ^Avic_ennasis @ 01:18, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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26xbing (talk) 04:17, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 11:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Casciavit è un termine offensivo che oggi non si usa più per i cambiamenti delle condizioni di vita dei tifosi, lo reputo desueto e quindi andrebbe levato, oltre che dimostrato. E' uno sfottò e non trovo giusto che sia presente nel profilo. Con l'avvento di Berlusconi nel Milan direi che oggi la maggior parte dei tifosi sia più di destra che di sinistra, quindi non mi sembra che l'animo popolare appartieni al tifo milanista e all'elettore di destra. Se l'Inter fu fondata da borghesi erano pur sempre dissidenti del Milan e quindi si evince che lo stesso Milan era frequentato da persone nobili.

N.B. Se proprio il termine "casciavit" deve essere presente toglietelo dall'intestazione perchè con la società milan non centra niente semmai riguarda i tifosi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 19MAuRO87 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Innanzitutto, siamo su Wikipedia inglese, perciò dovresti scrivere in inglese, cosicché tutti ti capiscano. Detto questo, molte delle cose che hai scritto non sono esatte. Chi l'ha detto che i tifosi del Milan siano prevalentemente di destra? Io sono un tifosissimo rossonero eppure ti assicuro non condivido le politiche di Berlusconi e non lo voterei mai, indipendentemente dai successi che ha ottenuto con il Milan. Inoltre, non credo nemmeno che 'casciavit' sia un termine denigratorio, visto che qualcuno ancora lo usa con oroglio — vedi qui, qui o qui. [Translation: first of all, we are on the English Wikipedia, therefore you should write in English so that everyone understands you. That said, many of the things you wrote are incorrect. Who said that Milan supporters are mostly right-wing? I am a die hard Milan fan but I can assure you I don't agree with Berlusconi's policies and I would never dare to vote for him, regardless of how much success he got with Milan. Moreover, I don't think 'casciavit' is a derogatory term, since there's still someone using it with pride — see here, here or here.] Luxic (talk) 21:56, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

There is an edit war brewing over the "clubname" parameter in the infobox. One editor is putting in "Milan" while I keep putting in "AC Milan". According to the infobox's instructions here the "clubname" parameter is for "The commonly-used name of the club". So the question is, what is the commonly used name of the club? In English media (and this is an English language encyclopedia) the most commonly used name appears to be "AC Milan"/"A.C. Milan". I understand that in Italy and even other parts of the world the club is simply known as "Milan", but again, this is the English language Wikipedia not the Italian Wikipedia and therefore we should go with "AC Milan". Thoughts anyone? SQGibbon (talk) 19:41, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree, in English the club is commonly known as A.C. Milan. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 21:32, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Like it was before and it has always been, the clubname "Milan" should be puton the right top of the page, the place for the short name of the clubs. Milan is not different from the other clubs, where it is written for example Real Madrid and not Real Madrid C.F., Manchester United and not Manchester United F.C., Arsenal and not F.C. Arsenal, Chelsea and not F.C. Chelsea, Bayern Munchen and not FC Bayern Munchen and so on...--Blocci (talk) 21:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

The instructions for the "clubname" parameter, which you can read here, is "The commonly-used name of the club" which says nothing about using the "short" name of the club. The most commonly used name in English media is AC Milan. "Real Madrid" is the most commonly used name in English media for "Real Madrid C.F."/"Real Madrid Club de Fútbol" which is why it's used in that article (and not because it's the shortened form). This is the same for the other examples you mentioned. So when it comes to commonly used names A.C. Milan is different than the other clubs you mentioned because that's how it is commonly referred to. SQGibbon (talk) 00:52, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

First, please stop changing the name before a consensus has been reached on this matter. Second, I agree with SQGibbon. Milan in fact is different from the other clubs you mentioned precisely because of the common use in English, which is AC Milan. There are clear instructions on the clubname parameter, and according to those, AC Milan or A.C. Milan should be used. Burakov (talk) 15:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

"A.C. Milan" is already use as the name of the page. Because the club is Italian and it is called "Milan" by the vaste majority of its fans, the name on the top of the infobox should be "Milan", like it ha always been.--82.55.210.22 (talk) 22:11, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Most articles have the name of the article as the name in the infobox, it's just how things work out and there's nothing wrong with that. Also, this is a general encyclopedia and not a wiki for football or AC Milan fans. As such we should use the name most used in English media even if that's not the same as what most fans use. We're here to serve the average person and not football fans. SQGibbon (talk) 20:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

As of 2010, Milan is the third most supported team in Italy,[11] and the seventh most supported team in Europe, ahead of any other Italian team

Clearly that makes no sense... 86.173.237.214 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:34, 4 December 2011 (UTC).

Let's suppose Team A has 12 million supporters in Italy and 25 million in the whole Europe, while Team B has 10 million in Italy and 30 million in Europe. It would mean that Team B is more supported than Team A in Europe, despite being less supported in Italy. So, it does make sense. Luxic (talk) 21:57, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I request to remove the adjective "unique" in this sentence: "The club holds the unique record of having gone an entire season without losing a game". Reason is that the same result was reached by FC Perugia in the season 1978/79. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.145.136.55 (talk) 11:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for pointing it out. Luxic (talk) 14:36, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Why isn't there anything on Gianni Rivera, The Golden Boy Of AC Milan. In Italy when someone talks AC Milan he also talks Gianni Rivera. Gianni Rivera was the best player for Milan before Berlusconi bought ACM and made it an ultra rich club. But anyways... Gianni Rivera was among the best players that have ever lived... He was indeed the Golden Boy, and there should be a whole section on him in the ACM Wikipedia page. Remember when someone talks AC MIlan he talks Gianni RIvera. Of course I love the squad now, I never got to see Rivera live, but from the stories of the old Milan fans, my father and etc. Gianni Rivera was the Golden Boy. I love Ibra, Robinho, Pato, Boateng and etc. But i respect the statement and support it because its true that: When you talk AC MIlan You Talk Gianni Rivera.

Under item "Supporters and Rivalries" it was correctly written about an ancient distinction between AC Milan supporters, who mainly came from the working class, and FC Inter supporters, who mainly came from the middle class. To be complete, in the past it was said and written that AC Milan, the oldest team of the city, bearing the name of the city, was also supported by most of the old families of the milanese aristocracy. That said, I consider inaccurate and totally devoid of reliable sources to write that this part of the working class who came from southern Italy supported AC Milan. In fact FC Inter was supported (and is still nowadays supported) by many Southern italy people transferred to milan and even more FC Juventus as historically known. And It remains to be shown the supposed milanese origin of the middle class who often came from other areas of northern Italy or from southern Italy. So I suggest to delete the reference to the geographic origins of the two sides because this is completely arbitrary and there is no source to prove it, especially for a complex city like Milan. The italian page does not contain these inaccuracies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.55.54 (talk) 10:13, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the statement about Southern immigrants. However, I suggest you to create an account and edit the page yourself adding the proper references. Luxic (talk) 17:43, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion but the page is protected so I thought it was better to ask you to edit this page. Just a note: I suggest you to remove also “tipically milanese” because (as explained in italian page) was not referring to the middle class but only to the nickname “bauscia” given to FC Inter supporters, like tipically milanese was the nickname “casciavit” given to AC Milan supporters. Bye — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.49.57 (talk) 21:17, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Most (if not all) of the problems mentioned in the 2010 Good Article nomination have been addressed. I think we should consider asking for a renomination of the article. Any thoughts? Burakov (talk) 18:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

As much as I am an AC Milan fan, this article is still not goog enough for nomination in my opinion. Luxic (talk) 14:44, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Are there any specific issues you'd like to point out? Burakov (talk) 16:03, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

"Furthermore, Milan is the only team to have won the Serie A without losing a game, doing so in 1991-92"

Juve won the 2011/12 Serie A withough a defeat as well, so milan are not the 'only' team — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.203.107.152 (talk) 19:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed Luxic (talk) 21:55, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Can someone put some stuff in about why they sold half the roster going into this season? Watched them versus Zenit today and came here to find out what happened. 76.103.204.67 (talk) 17:56, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The history section in the main article serves to briefly sum up more than 110 years of the club's history. A more thorough description of the events may be found (or at least it should be) in the

2012–13 A.C. Milan season. Luxic (talk

) 10:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Silvio Berlusconi is Honorary President.--Dipralb (talk) 15:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. Luxic (talk) 18:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

The following statement in the "Club statistics and records" section is wrong:

"The sale of Kaká to Real Madrid in 2009, broke the 8-year-old world football transfer record held by Zinedine Zidane, costing the Spanish club £56 million".

Kakà was sold to Real for EUR68 mln fee, while Zidane had been sold to the same club for EUR75 mln in 2001. Any comparison should be made on EUR numbers (since both clubs are EUR accounting) and not on converted amounts. Evidence is furthermore provided by the corresponding wikipedia page on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(association_football)#Players. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.129.121.63 (talk) 14:55, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Al Ahly as already surpassed Milan and Boca Juniors in international titles. They have now 19. 81.193.140.165 (talk)

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Under the current players section, it has Riccardo Montolivo as captain and Christian Abbiati as vice-captain. This is correct, but Abbiati is the 1st vice-captain. Please change that, along with putting Daniele Bonera as 2nd vice-captain and Giampaolo Pazzini as 3rd vice-captain. Thank you very much. Ejksd (talk) 00:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

 Not done Captain and vice-captain are enough. There are no

WP:OR). Luxic (talk

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 20:30, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 14:43, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

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Note: No request was made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:07, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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Any information on Stefan Simic, he returned from a loan this season, but it seems he is not playing or something Alexis Ivanov (talk) 05:23, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Also Gian Filippo Felicioli Alexis Ivanov (talk) 05:31, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

A.C. Milan Primavera team. Stefan Simić suffered a serious injury last season, when he was on loan, and apparently this led to him being unable to find a team this year (though there could be other reasons, I'm just guessing). He currently trains with the team (just like his fellow Nnamdi Oduamadi) and he even featured as an unused sub in the Coppa Italia game against Sampdoria, but in spite of that, ACMilan.com does not list him as a first team member and that's why we don't either. I assume he's going to find a new team in the upcoming transfer window, either on loan or permanently, but we can only wait and see. Luxic (talk

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The logo must be updated ro:Fișier:AC Milan.svg (1998-2009 | 2009-). --IM-yb (talk) 00:18, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

You can edit the logo at File:AC Milan.svg. Luxic (talk) 14:31, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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Since I cannot edit this page, so I suggest to add the information of the club selling from Fininvest to a Chinese group. The club's official site has released an official statement regarding the sale of 99.93% shares to a Chinese group led by Han Li yesterday.

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There's a current BBC news story on Herbert Kilpin on the 100th anniversary of his death here: [5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.135.170 (talk) 08:45, 22 October 2016 (UTC)