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The lead sucks

For me at least, the lead feels like a bunch of statistics and facts being toss into a bowl of salad. There's no overarching theme or a sense of causality that the reader can follow through. A better lead should be much shorter and be more selective. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 17:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:LEAD suggests that it should be no longer than four paragraphs for longer articles and typically three to four. It also has to summarise the contents of the article, so being shorter and more selective is difficult. Mikenorton (talk) 22:20, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The lead feels so long and a sore to read. To an another example, Britannica's article about the Earth has a lead that's longer than ours but it is much more pleasant to read because the information is not as disjointed. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's my proposed outline for the new lead, with each bullet point is a paragraph not longer than 125 words as a rule of thumb:
  1. General info, Earth's surface, water and atmosphere
  2. Earth's cycles, inner structure and magnetic field
  3. Earth's orbital, rotational and astronomical properties
  4. Earth's history (with less focus on humans/climate change and more towards other parts of history in general)
CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 18:33, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to understand how the current lead was developed, see this lengthy discussion. Mikenorton (talk) 18:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for the link. Unfortunately I really need to go to sleep now so see you in ~10 hours. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 18:44, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should we follow the lead example at Mars? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 13:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's my proposed lead:
Earth is the third
humid and covered by vegetation. With a mean radius of 6371.0 km(3958.8 mi), Earth is the largest, densest and most massive terrestrial planet in the Solar System. Earth has one large natural satellite: the Moon
.
cosmic radiation
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In terms of orbital motion, Earth phenomena.
Like most bodies in the Solar System, the Earth
billion years of Earth's history, the ocean formed and then life developed within it. Life spread globally and altered Earth's atmosphere and surface, leading to the Great Oxidation Event two billion years ago and produced oxygen in the atmosphere. Humans emerged 300,000 years ago in Africa and have spread across every continent on Earth. Humanity increasingly has a substantial impact on Earth's climate and biosphere to the point of causing widespread extinctions
and threatening their own livelihood.
- CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 12:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Mikenorton CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 12:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2024

Ok I want to change a mistake I saw about it saying that earth is the only planter with water on it because clearly it's not. 24.101.87.161 (talk) 21:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The lead section says that it is the only astronomical object in the solar system to have "liquid surface water". Mikenorton (talk) 22:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Xushruy 84.54.71.134 (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 February 2024

Edit: Change "This process maintains the current average surface temperature of 14.76°C" from 14.76°C to 15°C[1].

This temperature seems outdated, and I couldn't find a source for it. As well, it is inconsistent with other articles, ex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surface_temperature. 207.195.72.119 (talk) 17:37, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

 Not done for now: The source for this number is this article. --TheImaCow (talk) 13:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2024

The Earth Is Not Flat Kwispy8 (talk) 01:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
"change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 01:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

density of the Earth

If the mass of the Earth is given in kg, then the density should be in kg/m3. Mir.Nalezinski (talk) 17:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for pointing that out! ✨ΩmegaMantis✨blather 18:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will point out that the density of astronomical objects is largely given in g/cm³ and not kg/m³ by astronomers. However, Earth is of course the one astronomical object which is of interest to many fields beyond astronomy, so whether or not an exception can/should be made for units here can be argued either way. ArkHyena (talk) 22:23, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. The source in the stat did use kg/m^3 though. ✨ΩmegaMantis✨blather 00:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2024

I heard that a sidereal day instead of being 23 hours 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds it's 23 hours 56 minutes and 4.09053 seconds (small change i know but will help most people getting information from wikipedia) Ertgiuhnoyo (talk) 18:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done This is covered in the rotation section. Jamedeus (talk) 18:47, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please a) link 'aluminium' to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium and b) edit text from containing 'aluminum' [sic!] to 'aluminium' 98.128.249.183 (talk) 12:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Mikenorton (talk) 13:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 02 April 2024

Hi, I suggest adding a wiki hyperlink to the notion "tidal interaction" in the subsection "Earth–Moon system". There is a wiki page about this phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_force

Sorry this is my first time doing this kind of request. So, if I did something wrong, I'm sorry and please tell how I can do this better if you can. Have a nice day to you all :) Filuo (talk) 15:25, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Filuo  Done Thanks for proposing the change and happy editing! 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 14:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]