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A tekton correctly translates as a builder. Due to the scarcity of wood in the region, the most common application would have been as a stonemason. 2603:6011:A540:8300:8467:E2C5:DFC7:EEB9 (talk) 04:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The first bit is more or less true. The second is not. The earliest descriptions created the wood-working tradition that persists. But we don't really know. Johnbod (talk) 12:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The letter from Pontius Pilate to Julius Ceaser describes Jesus as having golden hair and blue eyes.

Source: http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/evidence.html (Check the real letters for the ultimate evidence and proof.)

Why is this not mentioned in the article anywhere? That's some massive evidence!! 2A02:8388:193C:DD00:602A:3C9:ADBE:FD5D (talk) 08:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The letter is a complete fake. Johnbod (talk) 12:13, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is little controversy among scholars or Christian clergy today about Jesus appearance: he looked like a Middle-Easter Jew, similar to other Middle Eastern peoples, with tan skin and black hair. The very first sentence states this. But then the article gives a great deal of space to ideas from centuries ago, and ideas from racist ideologies, which have no scholarly support. They should all be put under a top-level heading "Non-historical Ideas of Jesus' Appearance", or in a separate article.

All the photos in the article are ahistorical. The first photo in the article should be of a Middle Eastern Jew, such as from History of the Jews in Iraq. Ttulinsky (talk) 22:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A Jewish neurocranium is much more robust than a non-Jewish one.^[1] תיל"ם (talk) 11:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]