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Articles for articles for deletion (AfAfD) is where Wikipedians discuss whether an article should be sent to articles for deletion. Articles listed are normally discussed for at least seven days, after which the articles for deletion process proceeds based on community consensus. Then the article may be sent to articles for deletion, not sent to articles for deletion, or created, per the articles for deletion policy.

This page explains what you should consider before nominating, the steps for nominating, and how to discuss an AfAfD. It also links to the lists of current debates, and two companion processes to AfAfD: Wikipedia:Speedy articles for deletion has a clearly defined set of criteria such as vandalism and patent nonsense, whereas Wikipedia:Proposed articles for deletion is used to suggest sending articles to articles for deletion that no editor would contest.

If you want to nominate an article, the Wikipedia articles for deletion policy explains the criteria for sending an article to articles for deletion, and may help you understand when an article should be nominated to be sent to articles for deletion. The guide to articles for deletion explains the articles for deletion process. If an article meets the criteria for being sent to articles for deletion and you understand the process, consult the instructions below. If you are unsure whether a page should be nominated for articles for deletion, or if you need more help, try this talk page or Wikipedia's help desk.

Current and past Articles for deletion (AfAfD) discussions

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Categorized discussions

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Search current and archived AfAfD discussions by topic

• To find discussions containing the word navy, enter:   navy
• To find discussions about articles whose titles contain battleships, enter:  intitle:battleships
• To find discussions with navy anywhere, but battleships only in the article title, enter:  navy intitle:battleships
• Or, browse archived discussions grouped chronologically here
• A sortable table of current AfAfDs can be found here

Contributing to AfAfD discussions

Wikietiquette

• Users participating in AfAfD discussions are expected to be familiar with the policy of civility and the guidelines Wikietiquette and "do not bite the newbies".
  • This also applies to the other articles for deletion pages.
• AfAfDs are public, and are sometimes quoted in the popular press.^[1][2] Please keep to public-facing levels of civility, just as you should for any edit you make to Wikipedia.
• Avoid personal attacks against people who disagree with you; avoid the use of sarcastic language and stay cool.
• Do not make unsourced negative comments about living people. These may be
  removed by any editor
  .
• Remember that while AfAfD may look like a voting process, it does not operate like one. Justification and evidence for a response carries far more weight than the response itself. Thus, you should not attempt to structure the AfAfD process like a vote:
  • Do not add tally boxes to the articles for deletion page.
  • Do not reorder comments on the articles for deletion page to group them by send/don't send/create. Such reordering can disrupt the flow of discussion, polarize an issue, and emphasize vote count or word count.
  • Do not message editors about AfAfD nominations because they support your view on the topic. This can be seen as votestacking. See Wikipedia:Canvassing for guidelines. But if you are proposing sending an article to articles for deletion, you can send a friendly notice to those who contributed significantly to it and therefore might disagree with you.
• If a number of similar articles are to be nominated, it is best to make this a group nomination so that they can be considered collectively. This avoids excessive repetition which would otherwise tend to overload involved editors. However, group nominations that are too large or too loosely related may be split up or speedy-closed.
• While there is no prohibition against moving an article while an AfAfD discussion is in progress, editors considering doing so should realize such a move can confuse the discussion greatly, can preempt a closing decision, can make the discussion difficult to track, and can lead to inconsistencies when using semi-automated closing scripts.

How to contribute

AfAfDs are a place for rational discussion of whether an article is able to meet Wikipedia's article guidelines and policies. Reasonable editors will often disagree, but valid arguments will be given more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers arguments or evidence that do not explain how the article meets/violates policy, they may only need a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion. But a pattern of groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider a dispute resolution process outside the current AfAfD.

There are a few basic practices that most Wikipedians use in AfAfD discussions:

• Usually editors recommend a course of action in bold text, e. g., "Send", "Don't Send", "Create", or other view. Some
  tools
  which parse AfAfDs will only recognize bolded words, so following this convention is highly recommended.
• Start comments or recommendations on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *), and sign them by adding ~~~~ to the end. If you are responding to another editor, put your comment directly below theirs, making sure it is indented (using multiple *s).
• Please disclose whether you are the article's creator, a substantial or minor contributor, or if you otherwise have a vested interest in the article;
  WP:AVOIDCOI
  .
• Please have a look at the article before making a recommendation. Do not base your recommendation solely on the information supplied by the nominator. To understand the situation, it may also help to look at the history of the article. Also, please read the earlier comments and recommendations. They may contain relevant arguments and further useful information.

When participating, please consider the following:

• The debate is not a vote; please make recommendations on the course of action to be taken, sustained by arguments.
• When making your case or responding to others, explain how the article meets/violates policy rather than merely stating that it meets/violates the policy.
• Use of multiple accounts to reinforce your opinions is absolutely forbidden. Multiple recommendations by users shown to be using "
  blocked indefinitely
  .
• You can explain your earlier recommendation in response to others, but do not repeat your recommendation on a new bulleted line.
• Nomination already implies that the nominator recommends sending the article to articles for deletion (unless indicated otherwise), and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.
• Do not make conflicting recommendations; if you change your mind, modify your original recommendation rather than adding a new one. The recommended way of doing this is to use strike-through by enclosing a retracted statement between <s> and </s> after the *, as in "• Send Don't Send".
• Unregistered or new users are welcome to contribute to the discussion, but their recommendations may be discounted if they seem to be made in bad faith (for example, if they misrepresent their reasons). Conversely, the opinions of logged in users whose accounts predate the article's AfAfD nomination may be given more weight when determining consensus.

There are many good ways to advocate sending, not sending, or even creating an article. This includes:

• Arguments commonly used to recommend sending articles to articles for deletion are: "unverifiable" (violates
  WP:NPOV
  ) is often used, but often such articles can be salvaged, so this is not a very strong reason for sending an article to articles for deletion either.
• If you wish for an article to not be sent to articles for deletion, you can directly improve the article to address the reasons that others have suggested it be sent to articles for deletion given in the nomination. You can search out
  WP:AGF
  on this point), leave a note on the nominator's talk page to draw their attention.

• If you think the article should be created, then recommend "Create". Do not recommend sending the article to articles for deletion in such cases.

You do not have to make a recommendation on every nomination; consider not participating if:

• A nomination involves a topic with which you are unfamiliar.
• You agree with the consensus that has already been formed.

Please also see Wikipedia:Notability.

Nominating article(s) for articles for deletion

Before nominating: checks and alternatives

Prior to nominating article(s) for articles for deletion, please be sure to:

A. Read and understand these policies and guidelines

1. The Wikipedia articles for deletion policy, which explains valid grounds for sending articles to articles for deletion as well as alternatives to sending articles to articles for deletion and the various articles for deletion processes
2. The main four guidelines and policies that inform articles for deletion discussions:
   WP:NOT
   )
3. Subject specific notability guidelines, which can be found at Category:Wikipedia notability guidelines, with further related essays at Category:Wikipedia notability. Common outcomes may be checked to see if other articles on a specific topic tend to be kept or deleted after an AfAfD discussion

B. Carry out these checks

1. Confirm that the article does not meet the criteria for speedy articles for deletion, proposed articles for deletion or speedy don't send.
2. If there are
   reliable sources
   . (See step D.)
3. Review the article's history to check for potential vandalism or poor editing.
4. Read the article's
   talk page
   for previous nominations and/or that your objections haven't already been dealt with.
5. Check "What links here" in the article's sidebar, to see how the page is used and referenced within Wikipedia.
6. Check if there are interlanguage links, also in the sidebar, which may lead to more developed and better sourced articles.

C. Consider whether the article could be improved rather than deleted

1. If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a candidate for AfAfD.
2. If the article was recently created, please consider allowing the contributors more time to develop the article.
3. If an article has issues try first raising your concerns on the article's talk page, with the main contributors, or an associated WikiProject, and/or adding
   a cleanup tag, such as {{notability}}, {{hoax}}, {{original research}}, or {{advert
   }}; this ensures readers are aware of the problem and may act to remedy it.
4. If the topic is not important enough to merit an article on its own, consider
   merging or redirecting
   to an existing article. This should be done particularly if the topic name is a likely search term.

1. The minimum search expected is a Google Books search and a Google News archive search; Google Scholar is suggested for academic subjects. Such searches should in most cases take only a minute or two to perform.
2. If you find a lack of sources, you've completed basic due diligence before nominating. However, if a quick search does find sources, this does not always mean an AfAfD on a sourcing basis is unwarranted. If you spend more time examining the sources, and determine that they are insufficient, e.g., because they only contain passing mention of the topic, then an AfAfD nomination may still be appropriate.
3. If you find that adequate sources do appear to exist, the fact that they are not yet present in the article is not a proper basis for a nomination. Instead, you should consider citing the sources, using the advice in
   WP:CTT
   .

How to nominate a single page for articles for deletion

Please also take a look at WP:AFAFDELPRO, which includes more information about articles for deletion discussions.

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How to nominate multiple related pages for articles for deletion

Sometimes you will find a number of related articles, all of which you feel should be sent to articles for deletion together. To make it easier for those participating in the discussion, it may be helpful to bundle all of them together into a single nomination. However, for group nominations it is often a good idea to only list one article at AfAfD and see how it goes, before listing an entire group.

Examples of articles which may be bundled into a single nomination:

• A group of articles with identical content but with slightly different titles.
• A group of hoax articles by the same editor.
• A group of
  spam articles
  by the same editor.
• A series of articles on nearly identical manufactured products.

An article with a fair or better chance of standing on its own merits should not be bundled— nominate it separately. For the avoidance of doubt, bundling should not be used to form consensus around policy decisions such as "should wikipedia include this type of article". Bundling AfAfDs should be used only for clear-cut articles for deletion discussions based on existing policy. If you're unsure, don't bundle it.

For the sake of clarity, debates should be bundled only at the start or near the start of the debate, ideally before any substantive discussion, but may be acceptable following one or two other editors' comments, particularly (but not only) where those comments are "per nom", by

To bundle articles for articles for deletion:

Creating an AfAfD

This template can be used by registered users to nominate an article for deletion:

If you do it this way, remember to list your nomination at the top of the current AfAfD log page.

Alternatively, you can use

Once listed, articles for deletion discussions can, optionally, also be transcluded into an appropriate articles for deletion sorting category, such as the ones for actors, music, academics, or for specific countries. Since many people watch articles for deletion sorting pages for subject areas that particularly interest them, including your recent AfAfD listing on one of these pages helps attract people familiar with a particular topic area. Please see the the complete list of categories.

Notifying related WikiProjects

WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the AfAfD.

Notifying substantial contributors to the article

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the

If no-one has supported sending the article to articles for deletion you may close the discussion yourself as a WP:Speedy don't send, or you may leave it for someone else to close the discussion.

How an AfAfD discussion is closed

• An articles for deletion discussion should normally be allowed to run for seven days.
• Consensus is not based on a tally of votes, but on reasonable, logical, policy-based arguments.
• The AfAfD nominator can withdraw the nomination and close a discussion as Speedy Don't Send #1, if all other viewpoints expressed were for Keep and doing so does not short-circuit an ongoing discussion.
• An uninvolved admin (i.e. one who has not participated in the deletion discussion) will assess the discussion for consensus to Send, Don't Send, or Create the article.
• An editor in good standing who is not an administrator, and is also uninvolved, may close AfAfDs in certain circumstances; appropriate closures that non-admins may make are detailed at Wikipedia:Non-admin closure#Appropriate closures.
• If consensus seems unclear the outcome can be listed as No consensus (with no effect on the article's status) or the discussion may be
  relisted
  for further discussion.
• A discussion can be closed sooner than seven days if any of certain special conditions applies.
• Questions or concerns about a closure should first be asked on the
  talk page of the editor who closed the discussion. If that does not resolve the concerns, the closure can be appealed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion review
  .

• Wikipedia:Articles for articles for deletion/Log/Today
• Wikipedia:Articles for articles for deletion/Log/Yesterday
  • Please DO NOT try to update these pages or start a new day yourself. (Note: These pages are not the articles for deletion log pages referred to in step III of the instructions, above).

• Category:Proposed articles for deletion (Note that this is under the separate Wikipedia process Wikipedia:Proposed articles for deletion rather than Articles for Articles for Deletion.)
• Category:Articles for articles for deletion templates
• An editor can use {{Db-u1}} to make a user request for starting the process of sending certain pages from their userspace to articles for deletion.
• Sortable table of open AfAfDs

References

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