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You asked me to look at the Indian Railways article with a view to a GA nomination. You said "despite...citations" as if you want me to review this neglecting the lack of citations. This is not possible, or at least would be a wasted effort, verification is at the heart of what makes material suitable for Wikipedia and citations are the means of providing this. It is pointless doing cleanup on unreferenced prose because when references are found the prose may well need to be completely rewritten to comply with the sources.

As far as GA is concerned, the maintenance template at the top of the article needs dealing with as that is cause for an instant speedy fail. It is not just a case of removing the template: numerous facts do not have citations. One example, "With approximately 1.36 million permanent employees, Indian Railways is the world's second largest employer" needs a citation. It also begs the question who are they second behind? Possibly this was in fn#14 (following sentence) but that is now a deadlink. There is also a problem that there is disagreement with the figure in the article lede. In general the lede does not need citations as it should be merely summarising the body of the article. This is just one example, the entire article needs going through and all the sources should be checked for deadlinks and other problems (you can use the Checklinks tool).

The lede is not a good summary of the article (fails GA 1b), see

You might want to consider asking for a copyedit of the article (but sort the referencing first). There are numerous places a copyedit will improve this, and some where it hard to understand the sense of the text, example; "the seats usually made up of pressed wood, but the cushioned seats have been rapidly replaced".

GA 1b requires compliance with

The section under "References" called "Popular sources" look to me as if they should be under external links. They do not seem to be referencing anything. In any case there needs to be some severe pruning there. Indian Railways Fan Club seems a dubious external link. If not removed altogether, the numerous links should be reduced to one page from which the user can navigate. Many other external links need pruning.

Hope that is of some help. SpinningSpark 18:38, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you removed all of this. Perhaps you only intended to remove the gallery. SpinningSpark 16:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

In response to your post on my talk page, it would be best to first discuss the images with other editors on the article's talk page. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 23:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I am not really interested in reviewing media articles like F.I.R. (TV series). I have no idea whether or not the program is notable, but it is almost entirely unsourced which is a problem in itself. The one reference there is points to a nomination for the Indian Telly Awards. I really have no idea how much notability that confers in India, but I would presume it is enough to justify an article. SpinningSpark 16:47, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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This will add a well formatted reference that would be helpful in case the website link (web URL) becomes inactive (dead/link rot) after some time. thanks and regards --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 07:08, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

• to use this message place {{subst:User:DBigXray/ref}} on User_talk

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Glad to see that you quickly understood the importance of Well formatted references and also cleaned the article here--ÐℬigXЯaɣ 07:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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Never seen such a fabulous user page.copying some contents 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 07:20, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• I'm not able to put that page notice "Welcome,No rules Just a warm welcome, and a nice cup of tea." on my user talk. How to do that ?? 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 07:25, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

When you click on Edit on your talkpage, there will appear top right of the edit box two red links Group notice and Page notice. Click on Page notice and then copy and paste this:

{{editnotice | header =Welcome, {{REVISIONUSER}} | headerstyle =font-size: 120%; | text =No rules <br> Just a warm welcome, and a nice cup of tea. | textstyle =font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" | image =[[File:Nice Cup of Tea.jpg|70px]] }}

You can adjust the text and select a different image if you want. Enjoy! SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 09:55, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• where's those two red links, unable to find. Because you know where are they, Will you please paste it on my user talkpage..!!! 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 10:07, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Click on Edit at the top of your talkpage. You will see something like:

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Click on the Page notice. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 17:15, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• Hi, I'm not getting what problem happened with this.Please settle it. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 16:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

If you need general advice or help with any aspect of editing Wikipedia, then type {{Helpme}} on your talkpage, and someone will attempt to help you. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 17:19, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm not getting what problem happened with this.Please settle it. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 16:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that the clip is too long. Music samples should be a maximum of 30 seconds long, or 10% of the song's length if it is shorter than 5 minutes. You can find out more about using music samples

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• Did you follow the reply on my talk ? did it install ? any problem now ? --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 12:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

• in response to the mail. ok go ahead. i guess it would be faster that way. you can always change--ÐℬigXЯaɣ 14:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

•  Done It should work now, if not then make sure to
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Yes it's working. Thanks a lot...!!! 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 17:54, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

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but the page history says [1] you have made a number of edits to that article ? how can that be if you are unable to see , how did you made the edits then ? --DℬigXray 18:38, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you so much for the barnstar, but I must let you know that i am not an Admin here on wikipedia. the admins barnstar is give to admins for their work, but nothing to feel bad, as you are new here and its perfectly normal to be unaware of these things. You can change the barnstar and give again. regards--DℬigXray 11:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• I guess the guidance
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added list here --DℬigXray 15:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

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• Thanks a lot.such supports always helps for novice editors like me.(I found one more) Keep Encouraging me 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 15:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

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• Hi,i've mentioned in edit history.Nevertheless i'll do it on talk page also.give me a second. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 15:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

• I saw your comment, i have moved the content from the old version of the article from the history to the talk page. you may take a look to understand how to do it properly. The sources/references are as important as the content, do not censor them while moving. regards --DℬigXray 15:18, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

• oh yes of course,thnks i really have to learn lots of things 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 15:27, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

• I do hope you have already taken a look at the
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• you might also wanna take a look at
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• I have added a side bar here,. it has various policies, you can take a look at them slowly one by one, to help yourself learn then so that you do not make a mistake regarding policies, will be glad to answer your questions in case of doubts--DℬigXray 15:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

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Re:A beer for you!

Thank you so much for the drink and for the appreciation. I've not yet started working on PST as was quite busy with my official work at my organization. I'll start to work soon on that. Will you be interested on the article.?--...Msrag ^talk2me 11:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Of course...!!! --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 12:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Hello Cents, how are things going ? would like to hear about your editing experience. DBigXray 14:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

• HI,everything is fine here.currently working for this page. I've made some changes also,or i must say, completely rewritten 5 section of the article viz. section 2 to 6.1 --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 16:39, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

• Thats great, I am glad that you are taking care of the page. It was regularly edited by a lot of users new as well as old and was frequently often vandalized. It is currently assessed as C, with some work you can easily get a GA article from UP --DBigXray 17:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Request for protection of Lucknow

Hi 25 Cents FC. I have removed your request for indefinite page protection of

assume good faith, and do not file frivolous requests like this in future. Yunshui 雲‍水

10:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

25 Cents FC likes this. Hi, sorry for the Referring to the IP editor as a "racist".I did because the whole article looks very confusing and it isn't seems encyclopedic. Majority of the edits has been done by IP editor. But anyways I apologies. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 10:19, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

There are certainly a lot of problems with the article as it stands, but they can be fixed (see Ahmedabad currently at GA review, to see how it is in fact possible to write encyclopedic articles on Indian cities!). IP editing is often par for the course on such pages. It can be easy to overreact in the heat of the moment, and I understand your frustration; just be aware that RPP is for dealing with persistent vandalism, not one-off dubious edits. Apology unneccessary, but accepted, and thank you for the beer! Yunshui 雲‍水 10:37, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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3. http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/highlevel-panel-to-examine-brts-option-for-lucknow/964276/ --DBigXray 10:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

• 25 Cents FC likes this. I think, adding ^{[citation needed]} is a better idea than reverting or roll backing etc. I appreciate all you People's guidance. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 11:13, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

• Actually it depends on situation as well. If you have a very good reason and you are aware that it is vandalism then you may go ahead and revert it. But reverting unsourced info by labelling it as vandalism is incorrect (as i have shown above). The IP user may not know the
  wp:VANDAL and Wikipedia:Vandalism#What_is_not_vandalism to be sure about it. --DBigXray
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A beer for you!

Enough Information/suggestions for the day. nothing to feel down about it. keep your spirits high and be bold DBigXray 11:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

OMG what happened ? --DBigXray 15:47, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

hehe..All is well.I've weak wit of gumptious. so just written --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^{Be Calm} 16:27, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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