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Welcome!

Hello, Grolltech, and

welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for North Atlantic right whale
. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a

discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page
, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Epipelagic (talk) 14:46, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Content Creativity Barnstar
For stepping up and creating Shark Finning Prohibition Act when its absence became glaring. Daniel Case (talk) 01:51, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! I thought of this recent study after I gave you the barnstar, but ... it's exactly what I've been doing for years. Daniel Case (talk) 19:20, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Cquote

I have reverted a couple of your changes to the U.S. constitutional amendment articles back to {{

WP:MOSQUOTE. However, you have made changes to apparently all of the articles, and I would prefer that you go back and undo your work. Just so you know, this issue has been discussed before on the Talk pages of some of the more prominent amendment articles, and cquote has been rejected as stylistically incorrect per WP guidelines. Thanks for your cooperation.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:31, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply
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I have reverted or undone this change to all of the amendment articles. SMP0328. (talk) 19:11, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:18, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, folks... I was away at my parents' for Easter, and was thrust back into the 20th century until this morning.... Groll†ech (talk) 16:08, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Thanks for the update on the Ptown article

Much appreciate your update today to the Provincetown article. The Cape articles in general need more good content like this. Cheers! --Seduisant (talk) 23:17, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to do it! I just added my "To Do's" to my user page. They are:
Work in progress
To Do
Groll†ech (talk) 00:06, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I'll do some Sandbox work on Long Point... but my "Haven't Written" articles list is already pretty long.
I prefer to keep conversations in one place; some editors (not me) use the talkback templates... --Seduisant (talk) 02:30, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I did notice that list! And unfortunately, it's not one with which I'd have the least bit of familiarity! No worries, I've got a bunch of info tucked away on my hard drive that I'd need to dig out in order to put it into the 'Long Point' article.... Groll†ech (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks Great! so far... although the list of buildings may be of limited interest outside the Cape and Islands Group. But I've been wrong before. You may want to consider adding [File:Long Point CACO Map.png] to the article, which I just created from the swell NPS map available online. I did much the same thing for the North Truro article a while back. Keep up the good work... --Seduisant (talk) 03:04, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


June 2012

Thank you for trying to keep Wikipedia free of vandalism. However, one or more edits you labeled as

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DYK for Long Point (Cape Cod)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply

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According to the
DKY STATS for June 2012
, this DYK garnered 9,409 page views, at an average rate of 1,176 views/hour during each of the 8 hours it appeared on the main page. In terms of views/hour, it ranked #8 for the month of June, 2012:
Article Image DYK views Views / hour DYK hook
Long Point (Cape Cod) The Long Point Light and Battery, on the site of a ghost village in Provincetown, Massachusetts. 8,076 + 1,440 - (75+140)/2 = 9,409 1,176 ... that when Cape Cod's village of Long Point, Massachusetts (pictured) became a ghost town, its residents took their houses with them – by floating them across the harbor?
grolltech(talk) 00:40, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Right whale

The FAR has gone stale. Do you have any further comments on the article? Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 02:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello? Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 18:57, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sorry about that... I've put a great deal of work into an updated article on which I was working offline, and I was getting close to posting it when I had a computer crash a couple weeks ago... you'll notice my contributions fell off a cliff at that time. I'm still a day or two away from from getting the results of the data recovery effort. I'd completely understand if you need to close out the FAR – as I've never done one before, I assume the level of difficulty is the same for passing an FAR as it is to pass an FAC?  Grollτech (talk) 21:29, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Re Jones

Thanks for the edits. Do you think there should be a link to the pdf of the case somewhere in the intro or the box to the right of the text? Also, does it look like there are too many links(to other wiki articles) in the intro paragraph? Rybkovich (talk) 01:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How's this? I've changed the opening sentence of United States v. Jones (2012) to read:
United States v. Jones, 565 US ___, 132 S.Ct. 945 (2012), was a 2012 Supreme Court of the United States case...
I tried using the {{cite court}} template, but that adds a period where, in this case, it would not be wanted.
As to whether there are too many wikilinks in the lead section, my only thought is that the parenthetical lists of which justices concurred with which opinions is unnecessary in the lead. That detail only muddies the water, and can be determined by looking at the infobox or reading the article further.
I did just notice the last sentence of the first paragraph, which can't possibly be correct as it stands:

The question of whether a warrantless search would be a violation of that amendment was not addressed.

A "warrantless search" is by definition a violation of the Fourth Amendment! I haven't read the referenced 'Goldstein article' yet (I'm about to), but that can't be what he said...
Grollτech (talk) 17:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think S.Ct. change works, but opinion page references would have to be changed to court cites. I would keep the justice names. If reading for first time, that is necessary info re SC opinions and makes sense that one should not have to look in other parts when getting an intro. Re Goldstein's argument: He considers an example of a trespass followed by short term GPS surveillance, all warrantless. This would be considered a search do to trespass. But based on Alito's concurrence, he thinks that there are four justices who would not think that a "search" occurred (do to them ignoring trespass and surveillance being short term) and hence they would also vote that a warrant was not required. Out of the 5 justices that think that a search had occurred - four (all except Sotomayor) are considered conservative, consequently it is rational to suppose that one of them would vote that a warrant was not required. In other words, they would vote that a search occurred because of trespass but then fit it into an exception and did not require a warrant, because they are conservative.Rybkovich (talk) 18:37, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
P.s. just thought that S.Ct. cites should be added to not replace pdf page cites, since the pdf file is also great to have a link too.Rybkovich (talk) 18:42, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


A page you started has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Florida v. Jardines, Grolltech!

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Thanks very much! I also just created its companion article, Florida v. Harris, which was also before the Supreme Court today... Check it out! Grollτech (talk) 01:11, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
In recognition of the excellent grooming you are doing on marine life articles --Epipelagic (talk) 02:50, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! Great to be recognized by someone who shares your interest – a peer, if you will. I've been distracted the last week and a half, but I'll be at it again, I still want to create a "dynamic" cladogram template... Grollτech (talk) 15:24, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Your recent comment on

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Sorry, will do. Grollτech (talk) 01:44, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In this edit you said "Someone in New Zealand would have a better chance of getting a hold of the judge's ruling, which is public information, and I know that someone in New Zealand is paying attention to this discussion who would be more than happy to produce it, if it will prove me wrong." It's hard to see how to read that except as an accusation of bad faith reference-hiding on my part, which is especially disappointing pretty much all of the directly-relevant refs on the article and talk page have been found by me, including a batch in the immediately preceding edit. ]
(Talk page stalker) That's one way of reading it. A less reactionary approach would be that of assuming one is naturally less inclined to pursue extended searching for refs which support an opposer's POV. Such a situation is human nature and is not the same thing as saying someone already holds refs which are deliberately being withheld. Editors who are willing to search extensively for evidence which substantiates all points of view are of tremendous value to the project and are probably under-appreciated. -- Trevj (talk) 10:12, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
[yet another (edit conflict)] Thanks Trevj, I couldn't agree more.
In re-reading my post, I can certainly recognize and understand why you would feel that my comment was directed towards you, especially in light of my "apparently convenient edit conflict". I am *truly* sorry for that, and the best I can do is to give you my solemn word that I wrote what I wrote long before I even saw that I had an edit conflict, let alone the content of your contribution, which I *still* haven't read, because I've been beside myself over this misunderstanding. No, I assure you that I did not have you in mind at all when I wrote my post. Of course, you don't know me, aside from our interaction on that page, and that's unfortunate, because I am certainly not as shallow as to play coy little games like that. Besides, we may be on opposite ends of the spectrum on the issue of inclusion/exclusion, but during our various interactions on that page, I have found your responses to be reasonable [well, most of them – I chose to ignore the "building an encyclopaedic article" remark ;-)], specific and logical (which I like), and fair. Why would I do that, especially when doing so would undermine my own credibility – even more so on this specific point – one which is not rooted in the "moral/ethical quagmire", but rather one which I believe to be purely based on empirical evidence and logic?
I'll tell you what was on my mind when I wrote that... This is a highly polarizing issue, one in which few people will feel ambivalent enough to be impartial – myself included, and I recognize that. You would surely know better than I, but I daresay that the more or less evenly divided opinions on the issues that have swirled about in our little wiki-microcosm have probably mirrored quite closely against the "bigger picture" of the public opinions within New Zealand. Am I right? I also know that "vocal dissenters" (such as ourselves) are like cockroaches – for every one of us that you see, there are a hundred (or a thousand) more lurking in the shadows muttering to themselves, "mmm-hmm, that's right, you tell 'em!" THAT'S who I hoped to hear from. I was hoping to reach someone (preferably from my roach clan) who happened to live around the corner from the Auckland High Court, or, being that it was Monday morning (your time) when I posted, maybe I'd reach someone who would stop in during their lunch break to get a photocopy from the clerk's office.
As you are only too painfully aware, my responses can become a tad, er, um, voluminous on certain rare occasions (*ahem*). It takes me a good deal of time to write those responses. Yes, I knew that you were preparing a response to me, which is why I was wanted to get my response to Bilby finished before you got your response posted. With the household distractions while sitting in front of the TV on a Sunday night, my 3100+ byte response took 2.5 hours... and I can safely guarantee you one thing: I made a single save attempt (which failed due to the edit conflict), and that attempt was only about one minute before I finally saved my post. I don't know how to access the logs, but I know that somewhere there is a server log that recorded my edit conflict, and which would prove that I would not have had the time to re-write my response based on yours during that minute. Grollτech (talk) 15:44, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for joining WikiProject Freedom of speech

Much thanks for joining WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 17:18, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Florida v. Jardines, Florida v. Harris

Congratulations. I think you must have set a world's record on nominating something, getting it approved, and already promoted for Main Page appearance. Wow. You'd better do some more, because DYK seems to appreciate your output. — Maile (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't have been done without your guidance! Thanks for that, very much appreciated! Grollτech (talk) 14:34, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


DYK for Florida v. Jardines