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I see your note that the article doesn't meet the guidelines for Notability with not enough independent sources. I would like some assistance in identifying enough independent sources. The only reason I say this is that as a Business Executive, I have no doubt that someone who is the Chairman of the board of some of the leading companies in India (Infosys, Bank of Baroda, and formerly Cummins, and Microsoft India) should qualify as notable. If I am doing something wrong in identifying these independent sources, please let me know.
For now, I have some leading newspaper articles, citations from foundations such as the Rockefeller foundation etc. While I think that these should qualify as independent sources, I am happy to work on identifying additional sources.
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CB Insights is one of the top three (by usage and revenue) market intelligence platforms for tracking venture capital, and funding activities for private companies. Link from one of CB Insights' competitors here.

The company is considered a leader in its domain and a simple test would be searching CB Insights on Wikipedia and seeing the number of articles, particularly in the private equity, venture capital domains. Link here.

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  • I absolutely assure everyone that I have no Conflict of Interest, on any of the topics that I edit. My edits typically fall into these categories - Startups, persons of prominence, Coffee, and current affairs. I am not affiliated, related to, nor do I have a COI with any of the articles that I have edited.
  • I further certify that I am not paid for any of my online actions, including edits to Wikipedia articles.

Thanks. Ktin (talk) 14:33, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, Thank you for your response. Perhaps you understand that the nature of the articles I have seen has led me to this conclusion. I see references that are promotional and articles that do not assert nor verify notability. It depresses me seeing so much of you work at AfD. This should not be happening, but it is down to the quality of the work Fiddle Faddle 15:50, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Timtrent,
Thanks for the note. Is there anything else required on this front? i.e. the COI / Paid editing charge. As you can imagine this is a serious one, and questions my integrity, even if not intended to. If there is nothing else required on this front that is good.
Regarding the AfDs, I am happy to work article by article and type out my response. It would have to happen over the weekend, since today is a workday. But, I will definitely get to it over the weekend. Ktin (talk) 16:18, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
There is nothing to do. It is not so much an accusation as my presenting a suspicion and your telling me and the world that I am not correct. I accept your assertion, freely given.
With the articles, each of those that I have seen needs to be improved substantially. I have not commented on all of them, or I don't think I have. You've been around long enough to know that these cannot fly as written and referenced. It is the same with one I returned to Draft space, which is how I came across your work. I spend a great deal of time reviewing AFC drafts, and none of these woudl have passed muster. Even the merest stub must have an assertion and verification of notability by significant coverage, independent of the topic in
WP:RS to remain an article or to become one Fiddle Faddle
16:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Timtrent,
Good deal. As you can imagine, I operate with an integrity above all else approach. Hence, this left me a tad shaken as I started my day.
Re: the AfDs - I totally see where you are coming from, and I will work on my notes making my arguments for a keep, or accept the recommendations as made. As you can imagine, between the two, from my perspective, the former took more mindspace than the latter.
Cheers and have a good day! Ktin (talk) 16:34, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
I was hesitant to drop this template on your page. Then I considered that none of us is immune to being asked to state our business. So I have asked and you have answered. Most important, we have not fallen out.
With AfD articles my advice is to make the article beyond reproach, and then advise the discussion that you have done so. I have no idea of the expiry dates, but it seems to me that you have a clear run. Advise me on any where I have expressed an opinion ad I will form an unbiased view and either reverse or confirm my current opinion. I'll drop two comments I use for drafts at AFC below:
  • (for things) We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in
    WP:SELFPUB
    which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
  • (for living and recently dead people) For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in
    WP:SELFPUB
    which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
Those may be of assistance now and in the future Fiddle Faddle 17:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Timtrent,
Can I ask you for some guidance here -- CB Insights. This article has a "paid edit" banner plastered on top. Please can you help me with the required actions there.
I will definitely work on a response to the AfD discussion for this article post my work day.
Thanks, Ktin (talk) 17:42, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
I have removed the banner as a direct action following your declaration Fiddle Faddle 17:45, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Timtrent, Thanks. Much appreciated. Ktin (talk) 17:46, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Technically I am sure you could have removed it, though that is quasi-wise. I felt it proper to do on your behalf. Normally one might ask the editor who placed it Fiddle Faddle 17:47, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Timtrent, Hey, this is fine. You do it or I do it, it's the same thing. Besides that, our lookout is... he/she follows your guidelines and do not deviate. - Hatchens (talk) 03:11, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Hatchens, Timtrent - Hey folks. I see a {{paid-edit}} banner on two of my other articles Mark Vanhoenacker and Skyfaring: A Journey with a Pilot.
Not sure what is required now to remove this banner. My COI and Non Paid-edit self-certification is still active on my page. What else is required now? Ktin (talk) 16:20, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
WP:OWN? Unless you are the sole editor there it then it may be aimed elsewhere Fiddle Faddle
16:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Timtrent, not sure I followed the sole-editor part. Is there somewhere else that I need to post the self-certification? I fear that having a Paid-edit banner on an AfD nomination does not send the right signal. Let me know, thanks. I appreciate your inputs. Ktin (talk) 17:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Ktin, What I mean is that if there is more than one editor of an article then the banner may be for another editor.
AfD ought to pay no heed to a UPE banner Fiddle Faddle 17:55, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Timtrent, Got it! Unfortunately, I am the only significant editor on both pages. hatchens - please can you help let know if any other information is required on that front? Ktin (talk) 18:08, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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I have noted something you said at AN/I

I note that you are concerned about discrimination. It is a matter than concerns me, too. I wish to tell you clearly that in all our interactions all I have been concerned about is fairness. I think, though your comment was not directed at me but at another, that I have also given you cause for concern with regard to discrimination. I wish to apologise that I have given you that cause for concern. I will work hard to eliminate that fault in my behaviour. Fiddle Faddle 16:22, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Timtrent, None taken from your side, Tim, nor from any of my interactions with you. I continue to remain appreciative of our interactions. We do disagree on a few things (e.g. that LiveMint interaction), but, we have been handling it extremely civilly. Regards. Ktin (talk) 16:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Ktin, I am pleased. Nonetheless it has given me something to think about.
Pure disagreement is fine. With Livemint I have started the discussion at
WP:RSN as you know. Our disagreement has been worthwhile if it creates clarity. I don't mind which way the decision goes and have not checked, nor will I for a while Fiddle Faddle
16:45, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Timtrent, Totally agree with you there. Now, back to work. Regards. Ktin (talk) 16:46, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

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Why delete the page

Introvertism dont delete page Mrkallan (talk) 06:37, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Mrkallan, Greetings. Please use the 'contest deletion' button on the template. This will leave a message on the article's talk page, and an Administrator will take a look. I am sure the Administrator will consider your rationale before determining the next steps. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 06:44, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Dont delete that page Mrkallan (talk) 06:44, 30 August 2020 (UTC)