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Can't Hold Us Down

Since when is swedishcharts.com an official site to judge what is a single? It doesn't even state that it is a single. I've given a reference stating that the song was released in 2014 and if that reference isn't good enough I'll give a better one. The only one adding incorrect changes is you by putting it under 2015. AAron 8967 (talk) 09:54, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@AARON 8967: It archives the Swedish Charts (And other countries as well) therefore I think it's an official site to judge. They recorded it in 2014, doesn't mean it was released in 2014. Also if you scroll back far enough on Axwell Λ Ingrosso's Instagram you'll find the same information from the artists them selves!Mn1548 (talk) 11:04, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Mn1548: If you go to 69 weeks ago on their instagram they have information saying it was released in 2014. The music video for Can't Hold Us Down was released in 2015. And if a song enters a chart it does not make it a single. The Swedish Charts doesn't say that it is. I've given two references saying it was released in 2014 from complex and google play and I'll give another one from dej jam the record company their signed to.
@AARON 8967: If a song is released separate from and album, then it is released as a "single" format!Mn1548 (talk) 20:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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sockpuppetry, which is inappropriate use of multiple accounts. Do not add spaces between certifications and references, as you did at Little Mix discography. Also, stop adding The X Factor to the "Album" column; the column says Album. Same goes with your IP edits at Sam Smith discography. Spectre the film is not an album. By the way, I know you are Nathanaelsadgrove (talk · contribs) as well; you edit exactly the same topics and articles (and you also performed the same edit at Little Mix's discography concerning adding a TV series into the Album column). Ordinarily, using multiple accounts is not a problem but when you keep doing the things I and other users warned you not to, that's when there is and will be a problem. Ss112 12:16, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply
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@Ponyo: How would one do that?Mn1548 (talk) 18:47, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You could just add the link to your old user page (User:Nathanaelsadgrove) after "Old Account Broke:" on your new user page. I can do it for you if you're unsure.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 18:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Ponyo: I mean code format, is it just the same as a standard page?Mn1548 (talk) 19:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just type [[User:Nathanaelsadgrove]] and save it. Sundayclose (talk) 19:04, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Sundayclose: Thank you Mn1548 (talk) 19:46, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ponyo - the link was removed, although Mn1548's back to the same kind of thing Nathanaelsandgrove collected the warnings for. Pinkbeast (talk) 04:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As far as socking is concerned, I'm not too worried about the removal as the link is in the user page history as well as in this talk page section, and there has been no overlap in the account usage. -- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:48, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Axwell and Ingrosso, you claimed in an edit summary that "individual peak chart positions refs are unnecessary as there are refs for the all peak chart positions at the top". The reference for the Flanders peak of "I Love You" is not in the reference at the top of the column, hence why I added it in the first place, so I have restored the reference. Do not remove it. Thank you. Ss112 16:31, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply
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You claimed in your edit summary here "F.F.F." is a single and wrote "NOTE: Reference was included..." (cut off?) but yet you have provided no reference with your edit that indicates it is a single. The difference is "Galway Girl" and "Don't Let Me Be Yours" were both announced as singles. Has "F.F.F." been called a single? Ss112 19:21, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ss112 The rest of that was "...reference was included but it prevented the edit from saving, if anyone could find a reference that worked it would be much appreciated". By the way if my references that I tried to include (from Billboard and YouTube) are incorrect, please correct the edit. The song did following the same release as the songs mentioned (One after the album it's from but wasn't given its own one songed album) thus is and should be classed as a single. User:Mn1548

Ina Wroldsen

Ina Wroldsen was not credited on "How Deep Is Your Love", so it is not appropriate to include the song in her discography, and it's been removed. I'm pretty sure you've been warned about this practice before. For instance, Beyoncé quite notably had her vocals on Coldplay's "Hymn for the Weekend" but the song is not on her discography because she was not officially credited. Putting "uncredited" next to it does not excuse it. Ss112 00:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Schulz discography

I have moved the discussion to Talk:Robin Schulz discography, as it seems more appropriate for that page, as you are seeking changes to the page that may be controversial. Ss112 16:22, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Coldplay's songs did not gain those chart positions because Avicii remixed them. You're taking chart positions of songs that Avicii remixed after the fact, and attributing their success to Avicii. That's original research unless they are credited as being Avicii's remixes on sites. Do not reinstate said information to Avicii's discography without proof. This will be considered disruption and be reverted. If you want to reply, you can do so here, or discuss it on Talk:Avicii discography. There is no need to open a duplicate topic on my talk page. Ss112 15:28, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ss112: Firstly, I never credited an Avicii remix of a Coldplay song; and secondly, I put no chart positions on the remix part of the table I split.

However regarding the production table, surely those songs got there chart positions and certifications due to all the production and songwriting that went into making the song. My intent was to add the chart positions and certifications of those songs like in the rest of the discography. Note: I was unable to find an overall reference for the chart positions as the credit artists were different but references for the certifications were there and for Avicii producing the songs. Please tell me if given chart positions for production credits is a "no" for the reason that finding overall chart references are hard, or for any other reason as the no original research policy doesn't really say anything against as as the cerdit of "producer" has been made clear. Mn1548 (talk) 17:42, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, my mistake: I meant you created an unsourced chart table for Avicii's production work. It's original research because there were no references. If you can't find references for material you're adding, you shouldn't be adding it. Full stop. You also added fake peaks of Devil Pray: it didn't reach number 3 in France, let alone any chart, and its peak in Sweden was number 16 on the Digital chart, not the overall singles chart. Ss112 17:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Ss112: OK. Charts and Certifications should be avoided for production credits. However I still think the table should be split and some songs removed as the apper in "As featured artist" as "Other charted songs". Mn1548 (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The album column does not mean "which albums is the song included on?" because if it did mean that, every compilation a song subsequently appears on should be listed too. Is it for other discographies? No. It means which album or release (EP, mixtape, compilation, live album and so on) it was released in promotion of. The note was there for a reason. Don't come along and disregard it because you think you know better. Thanks. Ss112 00:55, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. Spotify is a streaming media WP is an encyclopedia. We don't refer to backing vocals on the track list and no this has nothing to do with WP:OR. Plus in Edit warring it does not matter who and why started it you just need to avoid it. So if you still have problems discuss it here first before reverting. CerberaOdollam (talk) 13:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CerberaOdollam: Firstly, you made the edit with out discussing and the reason why backing vocalists are not normally included is because they are not normally credited but in this case they are so they should be added. Mn1548 (talk) 14:24, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If either of you are going to discuss the matter (which neither of you have done properly), it will be at the article talk page, not someone's user talk page. Mn1548, as the person making the edit, you should have started the discussion (see my edit summary}, and CerberaOdollam, you shouldn't be encouraging to start a discussion here. I've started a split proposal at the Hugh Jackman talk page, so feel free to have this discussion there as well as weigh in on the proposal. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 00:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Ss112: "Spectrum (Say My Name)", the remix, is the version which went number 1 not the album version called "Spectrum".[1][2] And I think you'll find Calvin Harris was officially credited on the remix,[3] which is why "Spectrum (Say My Name)" was originally on that list. I made the edit because I noticed it had been removed. Mn1548 (talk) 09:02, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The list did not previously state Calvin Harris had another number one with "Spectrum (Say My Name)" before you added it. Also, the Official Charts article you just cited doesn't actually say or credit Calvin Harris as a lead or featured artist. Nor does the cover art of the remix; nor does the article Spectrum (Say My Name). They just state that he remixed it. Where do we draw the line? Did Calvin also have another number one because he produced "I Will Never Let You Down" by Rita Ora, which went to number one? Also, Spotify was nowhere near as relevant as it is now in 2012 when that song went to number one, so I hardly see how what they choose to credit it as now matters. Spotify doesn't decide everything. What matters is that is not how the Official Charts Company credits it—according to them and all other media I've seen reporting on it, Calvin has had eight number ones on which he is credited according to the OCC. Ss112 10:21, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ss112: The list did previously state it as a number 1. That's how I realised it was missing. Spotify/Apple Music etc uses official credits for songs as I believe you pointed out previous regarding Beyoncé and Hymn for the Weekend. A production, while technically would count as being a number 1, we would not included as there are no official credits. A remix on the other hand is completely different as it is a different version of the original songs which in this case is quite important as the remix performed considerably better than the original. Finally the main article does credit the Calvin Harris remix as number 1 - read it "Spectrum (Say My Name)". Mn1548 (talk) 10:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you added it to Harris' number ones on that list in 2017 and it was rightfully removed after that by another editor. Dude, I did read Spectrum (Say My Name), and you don't seem to know what I'm referring to: the infobox and the cover art contained on that article do not credit Calvin Harris as a lead or featured artist. The cover art does not say "Florence and the Machine & Calvin Harris" or even "featuring Calvin Harris". Linking me directly to the section titled "Calvin Harris remix" is unnecessary because that section doesn't really say anything different. Calvin is not credited by the Official Charts Company, who have specifically stated he's had eight number ones in the 2010s decade and ten overall here. Remixers are not always given lead or featured credit on the songs they remix. I'm done arguing with you, so if you tag or reply to me again, you're really wasting your time because you won't be getting another from me. Ss112 20:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Vargas & Lagola are associated acts of Avicii. May I also point out that no acts on that list are sourced and neither is that section of the infobox sourced for the vast majority of other artists. Correct me if I'm wrong ut the definition of "associate act" that Wikipedia uses is a minimum of two or more collaboration (at least that's what it seems to be based of other edits of the same natute). By that definition the information I added to the Infobox is already sourced throughout the article and does not need to be resorced in the infobox as no other artist is. Mn1548 (talk) 15:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
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"Correct me if I'm wrong"...I already did by reverting your edit and leaving a caution on your talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: Well then...Please do the next logical thing and explain why I'm wrong and what constitutes an "associate act" so this thing doesn't happen again. Mn1548 (talk) 07:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Any material added to an article that "is likely to be challenged" needs to include an inline citation, per Wikipedia:Verifiability. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: Thats still not you answering the question I asked of "What is an associated act?" So seen as you're unable to let's do this properly. Template:Infobox musical artist states that an associated act should follow on of four criteria. One of which:

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If this doesn't class as "collaborated on multiple occasions" then I don't know what does. Information is generally not sourced in infoboxs as it is a summary of the main article where such information is already sourced. Now do I need to source these here and now or are you able to click the links and see that the collaborations have been sourced on their respective pages and are also sourced on the main page as well! Mn1548 (talk) 16:09, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Mattythewhite: Please check the edit history and you will find that it is indeed sourced. Thankyou. Mn1548 (talk) 12:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It should be sourced in the article itself. What use to our readers is a link when it's hidden away in an edit summary? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well realise the mistake and move it there then. Most things in the infobox aren't sourced like his position as England manager just to give an example. Putting the source in the edit summary is common practice for small infobox changes so please check the edit summary of an edit before you blindly revert it. Thankyou. Mn1548 (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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How much are you going to expand on these articles other than copying and pasting information from the parent article? This looks more like creating articles for the sake of it rather than providing a good experience for the reader who can no not read for example the complete account of the

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OK but look at this the other way round. How much information is there in
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Strangely enough this is the second discussion on a similar topic today. I am also querying separate articles for the pool games for the 2021 RLWC on the same basis. What are they going to add that couldn't be included in the overarching 2021 RLWC article. Nthep (talk) 14:41, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Nthep: OK I see your point. My original approach to this was to create a basis overview and expanded later after connecting 2009 to 2019. But from this a one at a time approach is probably best. Creating one at a higher standard than bringing them all up gradually. Mn1548 (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Create a basis by all means but a) make sure you comply with
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County Cups

If you want to merge the articles then there probably needs to be a merge discussion first. These three articles have a chequered history and there looks to have been an undiscussed (afaik) and partial merger in 2019. Having a discussion should settle it once and for all. If they are merged then it needs to be done correctly to retain attribution and not just copying and pasting. Nthep (talk) 17:41, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thatto Heath's history is separate from Saints as the women's team has continued after the formation of the Saints womens team. I know it was a wholesale move/co-operative approach but you can't credit THC achievements prior to 2018 to St Helens. Nthep (talk) 16:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nthep: The current Thatto Heath women's side is essentially the reserve / feeder team of St Helens women (See RFL statement on the team's acquisition). Therefore anything achieved by Thatto Heath pre St Helens takeover can be accredited to them as they are the same team. Mn1548 (talk) 16:47, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Debatable - that might have been the intention in 2018 but is that what has happened since? I doubt it. This isn't a simple renaming like Bradford Thunderbirds becoming Bradford Bulls where there is no dispute about the achievements carrying over, but similar to the Chorley Lynx situation, they weren't the inheritors of Blackpool Borough's heritage. Nthep (talk) 17:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Nthep: From the way I read the RFL article it seems clear that St Helens Women are the continuation of Thatto Heath. The current Thatto Heath, can't claim the heritage, as it's explicitly stated that they are the reserve team. It's therefore logical to state that St Helens does inherited the heritage of the original Thatto Heath as there is no mention of Thatto Heath exiting the league and later reforming like what happened Blackpool Borough. Also please elaborate on the phrase "is that what has happened since". Mn1548 (talk) 19:09, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Despite a hope expressed at the time there is nothing to show that since 2018 THC have acted at Saints women's reserve team. THC continue to play independently and as a 2020 article in the St Helens Star says "Saints Women took over from Thatto Heath Crusaders in taking the town's place in Super League in 2018." [1] It's a situation analogous to the purchase of Gateshead by Hull Sharks to keep Hull's Super League status. Nthep (talk) 20:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There's another aspect to this as well, reputable sources like the BBC and Sky are reporting Saints as being the first team to win the Treble. Suggesting that their definition is Cup, League Leaders Shield and Super League Grand Final, not any precursor to the WSL in women's rugby league. Thoughts? Nthep (talk) 21:26, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Nthep: In terms of the clubs being separate, I have just seen an article on the St Helens Star saying that it is the club's first treble which would indicate separate clubs. What I would like to see in regards to this issue is an article on St Helens's or Thatto Heath's website explain the take over. In terms of the BBC stating it is the first ever women's treble I don't like. The definition of a treble in British rugby league, is League Leader and Grand Final in what ever first division league is currently running and the Challenge Cup which Thatto Heath achieved in 2016. The question is therefore is the RFL Women's Rugby League the predecessor of the RFL Women's Super League. The way both article are written suggested it was but there are no sources for it, so with out having to rewrite large parts of those articles when there aren't any sources to contradict what's already there I'd hold off on removing Thatto Heath as treble winners unless a good enough source can be found stating that the WRL was not the predecessors to the WSL and not an official top teir league for women's rugby league in the UK. Mn1548 (talk) 21:56, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry I wasn't planning on removing anything to do with THCs 2016 Treble, just to start the discussion over was it first or not. I see even the RFL are saying yesterday was the first though [2] Nthep (talk) 08:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Nthep: The only thing I can assume then is that in the WRL era there was no league leaders sheild awarded as a physical trophy. It's definitely safe to say it's the first treble of the WSL era, which is probably the best phrasing to use. Mn1548 (talk) 09:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
sounds like the safest bet. Nthep (talk) 10:34, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The only thing notable that I see is that all three are being played on the same day but even so that's a footnote to the matches themselves, not the headline. Nthep (talk) 14:31, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Super League champions and league leaders

About your edit edit adding st Helen’s and Bradford to the league leaders column for 1996 and 1997. Since there was no grand final those years they don’t need to be in the league leaders column as they were the champions. Post 1998 champions and league leaders are different achievements and not necessary for 96-97 Northern Wonder (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Northern Wonder: St Helens and Bradford were still league leaders that year. Just because league leaders and champions were the same thing doesn't discount them from being league leaders. Also putting not applicable in that column is factual incorrect as teams did finish first in regular season. Just because there was no playoffs doesn't remove league leaders as being such. Mn1548 (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mn1548 (talk) The league leaders column is for teams who won the league leaders shield though. It’s a bit confusing having saints and Bradford in both columns when there was no league leaders shield, there was just champions and runners up

@Northern Wonder: Surely the note explains that though, anyway its a lot less ambiguous now you've changed that column from "League Leaders" to "League Leaders' Shield" and that should make it clearer for people who haven't read the note. Mn1548 (talk) 12:38, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Anfield was removed from the schedule a whole year ago and replaced by the DW Stadium. Liverpool will no longer open the Women's tournament which has now gone to Leeds.

I have heavily improved the venues sections across all four RLWC 2021 articles in the last 24 hours. Given the short period of time I imagine there's a chance that you may have not noticed the edits but that section is (imo) to a really good standard that is consistent and relevant in its information to each tournament (and not just stadiums but training bases and etc.) I welcome a second pair of eyes and scrutiny over these edits but twice now you have done so citing inaccuracies in your summaries (though done in good faith). Comment by James Lewis Bedford (talk) 14:56, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In response to your edit summary I have now added bracketed information specifying the venues of the women's and wheelchair tournaments in the venue section (Special:diff/1117782519) with the rest already implied in that paragraph. A full read of the current page would not leave any unambiguity on this paticular issue without even the need to visit the individual articles.

In your edit summary you imply that there are missing capacities plural but I can only find this for English Institute of Sport. This was intentionally left (hence the dash) as the complex has no set capacity and will depend on the room they use (which will vary). I removed the needs fixing tag as I can not find any errors with that section. If you spot something specifically that you can not fix, please let me know and I will see if I can. Comment by James Lewis Bedford (talk) 15:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@JamesLewisBedford01: My appologies, I was aware that Anfield was no longer being used in the men's tournament but I thought it was still being used for the women's opener. Yeah, it's a bit hard keeping track of what's going on with these pages at the moment and exactly what should be on what page with the 2021 world cup now taking a different format in presentation to previous world cups. Sorry again. Mn1548 (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, it makes sense that you might have thought it was still being used in the women's tournament as that is what it had said as late as a 20 October version before I recently edited it (which is probably hard to find as there were lots of edits in the edit history).
On the Opening Ceremony section, I left that in the men's tournament in the end as in fairness there is not really any reliable sources saying it won't happen in the other tournaments as much as there isn't any saying it will so I guess there is no point trying to change anything before the first women's game is played. You could very well be right. Comment by James Lewis Bedford (talk) 15:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@JamesLewisBedford01: Cheers, I've also altered the venues table a bit, just ordering them a but better. Thanks again. Mn1548 (talk) 15:52, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cardiff Arms Park - a decision

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I've got concerns that moving the articles from 2025 to 2026 is not the best way to go about things. I've posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby league#2026 world cups as to why. Nthep (talk) 18:32, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns noted. I support your proposal on the wikiproject but as mentioned it does need to be done with proper linking between the two. Mn1548 (talk) 18:42, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Why does nobody else bother about what Stadium names go on what pages? Why does it only bother you... One admin who also edits these pages never bothers me, so I don't get why it bothers you. I've never had any complaints from anyone except you... So why does it matter what names go on here..? And no, I'm not causing an argument... L1amw90 20:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@L1amw90: It matters because that is the policy and consensus in place on Wikipedia.
The fact that I have presented these to you and have politely ask you to follow them on mutiple previous occasions, and every time you have not bothered to reply to me and instead go back a re revert my edits often breaking tables and removing valid content and references in the process. Of course I have got frustrated.
You have never attempted to have a conductive conversation on this topic only do disruptive edits to pages for who knows what reason. This is your first attempt of having a conversation about this with me and you question was essentially "why does following Wikipedia policy and editor concensus matter?" If that is your view please stop editing.
Also you said "I've never had any complaints from anyone except you". I don't know if you ment that in relation to the stadium names or in general, but on your talk page, the last 50 edits (25 really because you delete everything) you have 3 complaints.
Also you said "every time I edit something, you immediately jump in my talk page". The last time I was on your talk page, looking at the edit history, we had a constructive discussion on formatting the Women's Super League season pages. So why you are seemingly incapable of having a constructive conversation on this topic is beyond me.
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Hey, I've undone your edit for the women's playoffs etc, as I didn't think it made any sense. I thought it would be better to just use the structure they did for last season? I mean, if you want to re add it then fair enough, I just thought it would be easier for people to understand etc :). L1amw90 13:05, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair, will look to stucture similar to men's. Mn1548 (talk) 13:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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You've done another one here on Elite One Championship 2023–2024. Looks like a cut-and-paste from 2023–24 French Rugby League season, which additionally you have put a redirect into without making it a redirect. Redirects don't have content - you can't leave a load of content on a redirect page. I've tried to tidy it up by replacing the redirect with a link. You don't fully seem to understand a lot of how to move pages, how redirects work and how the MOS works - I'm happy if you want to check with me first before moving articles or putting in redirects, always willing to help. --Bcp67 (talk) 15:45, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In this instance I don't see how I can move one page into three. From my understanding of the move function it just moves one page to another of a different name. Mn1548 (talk) 15:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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