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DYK again

Are you still managing to single-handedly hold down the fort over there? If so, would you like to keep an eye on Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#North Preston.27s Finest ? Someone needs to again try to get DYK to clean up its act, and we know they won't listen to me. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:06, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look. I've been trying, with help from BlueMoonset, but was quite busy IRL for the past couple of weeks - that coupled with some late-loaded queues (since I only look once per day max) meant that articles like this one passed without me checking. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:14, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh, you're good. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:45, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Highway 61 Revisited

Hi Nikkimaria, how are you? I hope all is well. Thanks a lot for your comments for Highway 61 Revisited at FAC. We think we have addressed all of the issues you mentioned. Would you have the time to have another peek? Thank you again, Moisejp (talk) 15:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nikkimaria, happy new year! I hope you are well. I was wondering whether you might have time to have another peek at Highway 61 Revisited, and whether our changes have satisfied your concerns. Thank you, Moisejp (talk) 07:06, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copypaste You Noticed

Dear Nikkimaria, thank you for your comments. I believed that if I change words of article, this does not violate copyright. I didn't know about paraphrasing then. I come to know about it when I submitted for DYK and you told me. I will try to checkout all the articles I contributed and fix as much as possible. It will take time but must be done. Thank you again. If you find my such edits anywhere, help me by pointing it.

--Nizil (talk) 18:55, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Nizil, if you haven't already, you might take a look at some of our essays and guidelines on the subject, like WP:Close paraphrasing or how to spot and avoid plagiarism. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:21, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Nikkimaria, I responded on my talk page. I see why you were concerned; it's much more obvious now that you've blockquoted the rest of the article. I'd also like to have the replacement lead hook back where it had been, so it runs during the daytime here in the US: some suggestions about what to queue in its place... Thanks for finding this. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:04, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for the quick work! I'll get a new lead hook for Prep 2. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:21, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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The Colours of Animals DYK

Hi Nikkimaria, thanks for reviewing my article. I've done as you requested - have checked every quote for strict relevance, have slimmed many of them, removed some, and paraphrased several arguments of the reviewers. All the best - Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:35, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Willie Eckstein

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Copyright tag search

Hi, Peacemaker67 has requested I contact you about finding a PD tag he requires for a GA review of

Capture of Tiberias
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The tag required reads

"This non-U.S. work was published 1923 or later, but is in the public domain in the United States because either • it was simultaneously published (within 30 days) in the U.S. and in its source country and is in the public domain in the U.S. as a U.S. work (no copyright registered, or not renewed), or • it was first published outside the United States (and not published in the U.S. within 30 days) and • it was first published before 1978 without complying with U.S. copyright formalities or after 1978 without copyright notice and • it was in the public domain in its home country on the URAA date ( January 1, 1996 for most countries). This work may still be copyrighted in other countries.

For background information, see the explanations on Non-U.S. copyrights. Note: in addition to this statement, there must be a statement on this page explaining why the work is in the public domain in the U.S. (for the first case) or why it was PD on the URAA date in its source country (second case). Additionally, there must be verifiable information about previous publications of the work."

This tag can be seen at File:Churches and fellow POWs.jpg.

Searches of Wikipedia:File copyright tags/All have not uncovered the one Peacemaker wants. Can you help? --Rskp (talk) 01:46, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Rskp, you're having trouble because our version of the template is quite different from the version at Commons - it's {{PD-URAA}}, but our version does not have the text you quote above - only the Commons version does. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that Nikkimaria. --Rskp (talk) 05:27, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Mars et Avril

Hi, are you quite certain the whole trivia section should best be deleted in

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I thought of that, but when I looked most of it already was in the production section. Is there some point specifically that wasn't that you think should be? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To my shame, I don't know. Let me get back to you if I spot something in the edit history.
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DYK followups

Nikkimaria, there are a couple of DYK nominations where a followup from you would be helpful:

  • Template:Did you know nominations/Nav Nirman: this ends with a further problematic passage (there was a subsequent edit that turned the sentence into something that isn't quite a sentence, though it doesn't seem to infringe now), and a far more alarming statement about infringing material being copied across several articles. What is the status here? If the prose is on a par with the new non-sentence, I wonder about it being ready for DYK on prose grounds.
  • Template:Did you know nominations/Esme Tombleson: have the close paraphrasing issues been fixed by Schwede66?

Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Esme's fine, I've re-added the tick. With NN, it appears as if the nominator replicated part of the article as a summary into other articles to create incoming links, and part of that material included phrasing from the source. That hasn't been fixed, but is an issue exterior to the DYK nom - it still needs to be dealt with, but it's in other articles not in the hook. As far as the nom goes, though, there continue to be paraphrasing issues (though far less serious than before), as well as problems with prose quality. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:37, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Esme's just been promoted, and I've rejected Nav Nirman: the prose issues were a bit much, combined with the remaining close paraphrasing issues. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, and that's another with potential prose problems, though maybe not as bad. Left a response there. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:56, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AB Award!

AB Award!
In appreciation of your contributions to Wikipedia, I hereby present you with the AB Award. By expanding and promoting one of these stubs, which I like to think of as seeds, you have improved this wonderful collaborative project. Thank you, and keep up the great work! Another Believer (Talk) 19:46, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Grimaldi spot check

Hi NM, are you in the position to be able to carry out a spot check on the above's FAC. I feel confident that there are no issues. I would be most grateful if you could oblige. :-) -- CassiantoTalk 11:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The spot check was much appreciated thank you. I was wrong about there being no issues, but glad there were no serious ones. All of your points have now been addressed, hopefully to your satisfaction. -- CassiantoTalk 11:21, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Willard Gibbs FAC

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Template:Did you know nominations/Amdavad ni Gufa

Nikkimaria, can I ask you to take a look at this one? The wording is problematic from an English standpoint, but I'm wondering whether there might be close paraphrasing in here as well. Unfortunately, I can't check a couple of the major online sources, but maybe you can; in any case, I know you'll be better at the paraphrase check. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I too can't see a couple of the GBooks links, but from what I can see: a couple of examples of close paraphrasing, as in "It was built on the basis of computer aided designs" vs "gallery has been built on the basis of computer aided designs" and "It was constructed by using simple hand tools by unskilled tribal labourers" vs "structure has been constructed using simple hand tools and that too by unskilled workers", but beyond those no problems from visible sources. I'd say the prose is still the main issue there. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:25, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll probably highlight those and reiterate my suggestion that an outside copyeditor be found. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:18, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Did you know nominations/Infighting in Los Zetas

The creator has posted that the latest close paraphrasing issues have been addressed; can you please check? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:07, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/USCGC Smilax (WLIC-315)

Nikkimaria, can I ask you to please take a look at this? The discussion in the review (including the green tick) looks a bit alarming in terms of public domain and close paraphrasing, but I'm up to my eyebrows in trying to keep the prep areas filled and don't have time to investigate. I don't plan to promote this one, but it would be nice to know it's okay (or not) before some one else tries. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:39, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. It's a relief to know, and now it's on my radar as one to promote. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:31, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Peace music

Let me thank you for the Peace music you gave to all readers and to me, by repeating in style:

Precious consistent quality control
Thank you for consistently checking the quality of articles going to the Main page, for taking your time to preview critical ones for those who are afraid, and for your comments in a delete discussion "the principle that while Wikipedia is not a social network, it also isn't a soulless machine", "useful for community-building, which is an essential aspect of collaboration", and for mentioning "ideal" in the context! Ideal!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC) -[reply]

At that point of time, I didn't (dare to) add yet: "repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (25 September 2010 and 4 April 2012)!" - How do you like my hook suggestion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Gerda, replied there. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:17, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Close paraphrasing

Would you be so kind as to cast your close paraphrasing eye on the article Obelia longissima as nominated for DYK here. I don't like to be accused of close paraphrasing when I try to do everything I can to avoid it while still trying to extract good information from my sources. Thank you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That was very helpful. Thank you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:26, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Did you know nominations/William Dixson

Nikkimaria, I did a quick duplication detector check of the above with its first multi-cited reference, and discovered a boatload of identical phrases, including five of 19 words or more. Can you please take a look at this and see just how bad things are, and do whatever cutting is appropriate? It seemed bad enough to me that I used the X rather than the slash. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:41, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Leningrad première of Shostakovich's Symphony No. 7

Orlady (talk) 12:02, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply

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Thank you for the Peace music with psychological warfare, it's now featured on Portal:Germany, - much better Christmas music than soft shopping background, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Brilliant work Nikki! You might find more on
Leningrad Radio Orchestra.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:09, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Thank you, red-link-filler! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Saint Petersburg Academic Symphony Orchestra? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks both! Nikkimaria (talk) 03:08, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
GA, well deserved! GA, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:25, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good job!

Good job cleaning up Internalization, especially shorting down the study. Thank you! Lova Falk talk 12:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas
May your Christmas sparkle with moments of love, laughter and goodwill,

May the year ahead be full of contentment and joy,

May the good times and treasures of the present become the golden memories of tomorrow,

Merry Christmas To U & Ur Family.

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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:25, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks!

Hi Nikki; thanks for the review. I believe I sorted out the publisher issue. Let me know if it needs more work. ceranthor 18:41, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Meeting Place Cannot Be Changed

Hi Nikkimaria. I am the creator and maintainer of the above article, and I respectfully disagree with an edit you made. I don't see the purpose of deleting an interesting piece of trivia that the majority of the cast earlier appeared together in another popular film. After your edit the paragraph is just a listing of several actors whose names mean nothing to Western audience. I have restored to article to the way I had written it.

Goganess (talk) — comment added 07:09, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you help me?

Hi Nikki! Could I please ask you to source-review

talk) 18:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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I'd suggest adding citations for paragraph-ending sentences currently lacking them, such as "Fluorosurfactants are a small segment in mass but are significant economically because of very high prices".
self-publishing company? Compare FNs 219 and 220. Compare FNs 101 and 223. Compare FNs 73 and 280. FN287 is missing publisher. FN317 misplaces publisher as author - there's a specific author that isn't mentioned. I don't have the subject knowledge to see other reliability or comprehensiveness issues, but hopefully you've dealt with that already. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Wow, thank you very much, very fast and productive! Yes, it took me some reasonable time (may have overlooked something, but I'm quite sure about those issues) Starting to fix these now.--
talk) 17:18, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Fleming and Baird

I see that, fairly predictably, the nationality of Logie Baird was recently changed from Scottish (British) to Scottish without any discussion on the talk page or any consensus being reached. If you are neutral in this discussion as you claim, then I assume you will revert the edit, lock the page and ask for discussion and consensus.

Flagators (talk) 13:50, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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I do hope you read my comment at your talk. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:57, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations

The WikiProject Barnstar
I am delighted to present you with this WikiProject Barnstar in recognition of your extensive contributions to the Military history WikiProject, as evidenced by your being nominated for the 2012 "Military historian of the year" award. We're grateful for your efforts, and look forward to seeing more of your excellent work in the coming year! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Ian! Nikkimaria (talk) 02:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for finding the close paraphrasing

Nikkimaria, thanks for finding the close paraphrasing in the BAM article that I promoted to prep, and was in queue when you found it. I was wondering whether you might be able to move the René de Segonzac hook from Prep 2 to Queue 3 to refill it to eight: I think placing it right after the Samuel N. Patterson House hook would be best in terms of balance within that set. (They're the ninth and tenth prep sets I've done in a row; I think I'll take a break once I've replaced the Segonzac in P2.) Please let me know ... and be sure to check the Segonzac before you do move it! Although, if I recall correctly, most of the sources are French ones... BlueMoonset (talk) 02:19, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've moved the hook, just in case it's too late over there — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:06, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Crisco - not that late yet, but had stepped away for some yummy hot chocolate. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:27, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Temptation, hot chocolate is thy name... and the little bitty marshmallows. I've yet to see those here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I had yummy dirty chocolate. (It's the name of an ice cream flavor here, and was dubbed that because making it is apparently quite messy. Doesn't taste messy, though: just really, really good.) BlueMoonset (talk) 03:51, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Enough

Stop stalking my edits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:03, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Correct use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing unambiguous errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, or correcting related problems on multiple articles". Nikkimaria (talk) 14:41, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is clear that you are stalking Andy's edits across many articles. I will point out, as clearly and politely as I can, that infoboxes in articles are not "unambiguous errors or violations of Wikipedia policy" and you are well aware of that. Your behaviour is becoming a matter of concern now and I'd be grateful if would kindly take a step back and try to regain your perspective, please. You are more than capable of making very fine contributions to Wikipedia, but pursuing a vendetta against another editor is a blot on your copybook. Why not try to avoid articles where Andy is editing? If he is wrong about an infobox in a given article, then someone else will surely come along and correct him. If not, then perhaps you should be examining your reasons for reverting his edits so frequently? --RexxS (talk) 17:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your concern, RexxS, but please read the entire quote: Andy's habit of adding infoboxes indiscriminately, against guidelines and even warring them in where others have objected, absolutely qualifies as "related problems on multiple articles", and in many cases extends to "violations of Wikipedia policy". I have not been removing every infobox Andy adds, nor do I pursue a vendetta against him - I have not sought to have him sanctioned, for example, even though his behaviour could certainly warrant it. I am, however, confident in my rationale for reverting him, and feel that doing so in the cases that I am is more helpful to the community than a "blot on [my] copybook". While I certainly understand if you feel the need to continue to support him, might I suggest you extend some advice to him as well? Some of his comments as of late have been rather intemperate, and more civility blocks on good contributors aren't what the project needs at the moment. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:40, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Wallace Hartley

I was actually working on a slightly different list than I normally do for these edits, Category:Incorrectly_tagged_WikiProject_Biography_articles. *Most* of the entries in that category come from user talk pages, but it appears that that category is also filled with talk pages of pages that are redirected. I should have put a slightly different explanation on it, but I still think the WPBio template doesn't belong there...Naraht (talk) 21:00, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, but why remove the "merged" template? Nikkimaria (talk) 23:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio

You wrote on my talkpage: "Please don't do things like this or this again: if you're quoting directly from your source, use quote marks, and do not readd material removed because of close paraphrasing/copyvio concerns."

You removed this: Initially ACC adopted a ‘pay-as-you-go’ funding model which collected “only enough levies during the year to cover the cost of claims for that particular year”. In 1999 a ‘fully funded’ model was adopted which meant ACC began collecting enough money during each levy year to cover the lifetime costs of every claim. Since some people are supported by ACC for “30 years or more”, significant reserves had to be generated to fund future costs.

The greatest number of words that are a direct copy are this phrase: “only enough levies during the year to cover the cost of claims for that particular year” - 16 words.

WP:CP states: "Depending on the context and extent of the paraphrasing, limited close paraphrase may be permitted under the doctrine of fair use; close paraphrase of a single sentence is not as much of a concern as an entire section or article." Examples of fair use include commentary, search engines, criticism, news reporting, research, teaching, library archiving and scholarship. It provides for the legal, unlicensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author's work under a four-factor balancing test. One of the four factors is Amount and Sustantiality
... On this point WP says "In general, the less that is used in relation to the whole, ex: a few sentences of a text for a book review, the more likely that the sample will be considered fair use." In other words a few sentences out of an entire publication is deemed legitimate. The concept of de minimis also applies. The article goes on to say: "In other words, de minimis sampling was still considered fair and free because, traditionally, "the law does not care about trifles."

I know you have good intentions - but deleting the paragraph on the basis of 16 trifling words - how do you justify this? Offender9000 22:12, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Simple: exact copying is not the only thing you need to avoid, and the rest of that section was nearly identical in structure and phrasing. Furthermore,
WP:Fair use limits that type of usage to quotation, which this was not - you were presenting it as an original wording when it really wasn't. On the same article you also copied or very closely paraphrased other material as well. You need to stop doing that, now, or you're very likely to get blocked, and you've been told at much at your CCI. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:18, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Where exactly does it say on the fair use page that fair use is limited to "quotation"? It doesn't say it on this page about fair use. I see that under close paraphrasing it says: "Limited close paraphrasing is appropriate within reason, as is quoting (with or without quotation marks), so long as the material is clearly attributed in the text." Offender9000 01:09, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

But you need to base your editing practices on Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, not necessarily on what our articles say - after all, our articles are not reliable sources. Look at
WP:PARAPHRASE ("Close paraphrasing without in-text attribution may constitute plagiarism, and when extensive (with or without in-text attribution) may also violate Wikipedia's copyright policy, which forbids Wikipedia contributors from copying material directly from other sources...If a non-free copyrighted source is being used, it is recommended to use original language and direct quotations, to clearly separate source material from original material"). Nikkimaria (talk) 01:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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The sentence: "Limited close paraphrasing is appropriate within reason, as is quoting (with or without quotation marks), so long as the material is clearly attributed in the text" is wikipedia policy. Offender9000 03:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but a) "limited" is an issue (the part in question was several sentences, not a few words), and b) no
attribution in the text was provided. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:59, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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The part you have now deleted is less than one sentence and is not a direct quote. In other words, its very 'limited'. Also attribution was provided at the end of the sentence. Please read the policy you linked to. It clearly says: "Simple facts such as this can have inline citations to reliable sources as an aid to the reader, but normally the text itself is best left as a plain statement without in-text attribution." In other words, for straight forward information, a citation at the end constitutes "attribution in the text" Offender9000 19:17, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

I deleted two sentences that remain almost identical to the cited source, and I've read the policies I've linked, which suggest in-text (not citation) attribution and/or appropriate rephrasing in cases like this one. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:25, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have now copied this conversation to the ACC Talk page so anyone else who might want to participate can do so. Please respond there if you intend to continue. Offender9000 19:25, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

You seem to have missed my most recent response; would you mind adding it? Also, the conversation is becoming a bit hard to read because of the lack of threading on your part; you might want to take a look at
Help:Threading. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:28, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Removing claimed trivia sections

Before removing an article section, as you did here to the A cappella article, please check the associated talk page for a discussion on the matter. Deletion wasn't urgent. —ADavidB 03:31, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did. You posted that its inclusion wasn't appropriate, and no one else had commented. I'm unsure why you would restore the section when you agree it isn't appropriate, and waiting a day before removing is hardly "urgent". Nikkimaria (talk) 04:01, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I used the talk page for collaboration, not 'shooting first and answering any questions later'. What I posted is that I didn't think it was appropriate "in its current form". You acted about 16 hours after my posting in which I sought comment from others. Article discussion doesn't always happen that fast. I restored the section because its silent removal wasn't conducive to discussion or any subsequent reformatting. —ADavidB 07:14, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree

I noticed your edit summary here. You are correct and I acknowledge the wisdom of your admonition. Best regards, --My76Strat (talk) 03:41, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Film lists

Lists of credits are common on WP director articles. They are usually not referenced, as the on-screen credits are quite good enough and can easily be verified at multiple sources. To remove a whole section because some of it is unreferenced is unjustifiable.

If you're looking for excessive, poor, or irrelevant examples, there are pages which actually have this problem, like the Prequel article, which not only lists every prequel imaginable, but also includes films which aren't prequels, but were mistakenly called such by less-than-rigorous writers in certain published sources. Your efforts might be put to better use there. - Gothicfilm (talk) 04:24, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Except that "Alan Smithee" is not a real person, but a pseudonym. You wouldn't expect the article on
other pages that have problems does not mean that this page has none. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Alan Smithee is an official credit given for specific reasons by the Director's Guild. Every use of it is notable, as it reveals a serious dispute could not be properly worked out on that production. The list allows readers to easily see instances where this occurred. John Doe is not analogous and has nothing to do with it. - Gothicfilm (talk) 04:49, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, every use of it should be discussed in the articles about the specific works in which it was used, as that's where the "dipute" is relevant. The general Smithee article, on the other hand, should not be bloated with every instance. It's more analogous to Doe than to a specific director because there is no specific period/genre/whatever for which this name is applied and the long list of works does not give any significant insight into "Alan Smithee" as a topic (whereas a director's filmography can inform the reader's knowledge of his/her oeuvre). Nikkimaria (talk) 04:59, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This has nothing to do with specific periods or genres. I don't want to repeat myself, but every use of it is notable, as it reveals a serious dispute could not be properly worked out on that production. A list of this - where the DGA made it official - is what I would expect and want to see on an article such as this. A list of instances of John Doe usage was not officially designated by anyone - it just means the subject's ID is unknown. If you can't see that clear distinction, I'm wasting my time here. To repeat myself one more time, to remove a whole section because some of it is unreferenced, as you did, is unjustifiable. I'm done. - Gothicfilm (talk) 05:22, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The DGA made it official on non-films? That seems unlikely, so would need to be sourced. Nevertheless, if you prefer, we can remove the list based on it being trivial, undue weight and without demonstrated significance to the topic - as I said before, while disputes on a particular film are relevant to the article on that film, they are not notable within the context of this pseudonym. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:26, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

Hi there. I just wanted to let you know about a small discussion

berate 07:15, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
]

Thank you very much

Thanks for becoming involved in Festivus. The user who keeps reverting you, me, and the world seems to have grabbed onto the page and wants to shake the life out of it. We had a huge revert war on if Festivus is "secular" or "parody" (it's been labeled as secular for years, both here and in major media). When I tried to talk with him on his talk page he ignored me, erased the comments, and reverted again and again. Please stay with the page, as it is one of the top 100 articles viewed on wikipedia (81), and as such an important page it has had a total lack of administration. Randy Kryn 11:26 31 December '12

December 2012 You have been
page protection.  Mark Arsten (talk) 17:49, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
]

Interesting approach. Given that there were three people involved, no one near 3RR, and a discussion ongoing on the talk page, it might have been better to simply protect the article for a while. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not completely endorsing the block, but given that you are an admin, Nikki, I guess that protecting the page wouldn't have worked. Just some thoughts. —
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(edit conflict) @Nikki While this wasn't a 3RR situation, I think it was still pretty clearly edit warring, in that you and he were making a revert every day or two for two weeks. I respect you and Andy both a great deal, and I'll be willing to unblock under the condition that the dispute be resolved on the talk page, instead of resuming the slow moving revert war. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:50, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it would've - any admin who edit-wars through protection is on a fast-track to ArbCom. I'm stubborn but not stupid. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:45, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, well. That's a good point. —
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Seems entirely consistent with the craziness that seems to have overwhelmed Wikipedia over the Christmas period. Maybe some people need to be a little less liberal with the brain juice? Anyway, I'm sure you've got better things to do over the next 24 hours than pay any attention to this place.
Fatuorum 18:24, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply
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No, Mark, No! No! Say it ain't so, Mark. Say it ain't so.
This block did not help with the editor retention of Sandy. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:24, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've reverted your last edit and restored the article to 12th December, before this bout of edit warring. It happens to be one of Andy Mabbett's edits, before you point that out, but I assure you that's coincidence and no more.
re the infobox issue – this is one of the clearest cases of edit warring I've seen and the blocks of both of you are thoroughly deserved and warranted as preventative. I don't know your edit history, but Andy Mabbett certainly knows better. Get some consensus or project guidelines sorted out before this sort of simplistic "Any infoboxes are wrong and must be removed" campaign, let alone by edit-warring to do so. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Andy, the infobox was added on 12 December by Andy Mabbett, there are project guidelines in place that recommend against infoboxes in cases like this one, and no one involved is on a simplistic "any infoboxes are wrong and must be removed" campaign. Rather than continue the edit war, please take the time to understand the background here. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:45, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that's my mistake for not looking far enough back in the edit history. I'm going to leave this article alone now to prevent further chaos, but if anyone else wants to revert it further, I would leave them to it. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mark, I'm not sure if this will carry any weight, but I would like to ask (as a personal favour, if you wish) if you would unblock both Nikki and Andy. I am trying hard on the talk page Talk:Hans-Joachim Hessler to find some common ground and I don't think the edit-war is likely to continue. You have my assurance that I limit myself to a strict 1RR in every case, so there is no danger of me exacerbating the situation further, and both Nikki and Andy will be certain of the consequences of editing the article further before consensus on the talk page. Thanks in advance for any consideration you are able to make of my request. Cheers, --RexxS (talk) 18:36, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RexxS, in response to your recent post at article talk: is there a way to increase the size of the image within the infobox? I'd be willing to leave the infobox in if there was a way to make the image bigger, limit alma mater to Graz (others are unsourced anyway), leave out blank parameters, and delink German. Would that be an acceptable compromise, pending a larger RfC or opposition from other voices? Either way, can you specify (for my own interest, not in relation to this article at the moment) what other ways of adding metadata are available? I know of persondata already, but that's fairly limited. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Nikki, I've made those changes to the infobox on the talk page. See if it meets your objections and perhaps we can agree to make use of it (or a modified version - I don't know if 350px is best, for example). Let's edit the talk page and update the article when we've finished. I agree that persondata is limited, and it's not easy to add metadata from scratch because it relies on making use of precisely named classes that are best wrapped in a template - as far as I know Template:UF-hcard-person shows the data provided by {{Infobox person}}, but you could ask Andy, as he's more expert in this than I am. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 19:24, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I looked in to the 'pedia yesterday and the first thing I encountered was madness. I looked in today and the first thing I encountered was more madness. I'm leaving. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:42, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Andy has already requested an unblock on the grounds that this wasn't a "preventative" block, as he hadn't edited it for some days. Given the slow rate of changes though, and their remarkably extended duration, I don't see that as convincing reason.
As these blocks are both short (it's New Year's Eve - there are better things to be doing), deserved, and justified as preventative, I'd support keeping them. However talk page access should certainly remain and I'd be willing to cross-post at least a comment each to the article talk page, in support of some real discussion. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:45, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've unblocked in the interests of facilitating discussion on the article's talk page. Please don't resume reverting though. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. As I'd obviously prefer not to make any edits to the article at the moment, would someone mind making the non-infobox-related changes that Andy Dingley undid? I don't think any of them should be controversial. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:57, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, he's reverted himself. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:58, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Where was this user warned about edit warring before a block was given out?
talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 06:08, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
]
Anything I could add to this thread would be hypocritical ... if I were complaining, one of the reasons would be that Mark was the wrong person to make this block. But I have a vested interest here, too ... Nikki is one of the most amazingly productive editors at Milhist, at FAC, and many other places I hang out ... so I can't hope to offer an objective analysis. All I can say is: Nikki, if you're ever in a situation where someone cites your "block log", please let me know. - Dank (push to talk) 19:12, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Belated ditto Dan's comments... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 04:34, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Axel Törneman

Nikkimaria, I was wondering if you'd be able to check this one over. Admittedly, the problem I initially found was that a stretch of text was from the Google Translate results of a Swedish article in English, but I'd like you to see if there are any other issues now that the text of that particular passage has been modified. Thanks.

I may have another one for you soon; it was another with problematic passages, but I wanted to see what the author does to correct matters before calling on you.

Hope you have (or are already having) a very happy new year. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:22, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey BlueMoonset, happy new year! I can't seem to access FN9 so can't speak to the quality of paraphrasing from that source, but other than that it seems fine. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Hope it's been a great one for you so far. And thank you for checking Axel; it made me a bit nervous under the circumstances, but I'm happy enough to give it an AGF if source 9 is the only one you can't get to. I now have two noms I may be sending your way for an opinion, but I'm waiting on events, and hoping it won't be necessary. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:29, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fortress of Mimoyecques FA nomination

Thank you for your help with the featured article nomination of Blockhaus d'Éperlecques. I thought you might like to know that I've nominated a related article, Fortress of Mimoyecques, for consideration as a featured article. If you have any comments on the nomination, please leave them on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Fortress of Mimoyecques/archive1. Prioryman (talk) 09:12, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

William Dixson

Hi Nikkimaria,
For what it's worth, I've made some edits to the William Dixson article that I believe address the concerns you and BlueMoonset raised in the DYK nomination. Here's the diff in question. I hope this brings it up to scratch. Thanks, Whiteghost.ink (talk) 01:55, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WER

Thanks for removing User:Townsend. I was just on my way to do it myself after I read what a HUGE sock I had listed. ```Buster Seven Talk 05:44, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 December 2012

Template:Did you know nominations/Thổ Chu Island

Nikkimaria, this isn't quite in the usual vein, but I was hoping for another set of eyes. I've just replaced the paraphrase in the History section with a quote from the source (actually reproducing material quoted in that source) because the paraphrase was a little too close for comfort. The thing is, this is the basis of the hook, and I'm wondering if the hook may also be too close for comfort (it wasn't as close as the article text, but...). If you think it is, might you be able to propose a new ALT that covers the same facts but is less close to the quote? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Did you know nominations/Rimac Concept One

Nikkimaria, I just noticed that this article, which you had previously dinged for close paraphrasing, had been rewritten a while ago, and it has just been approved by another reviewer. Since it's a likely candidate for a lead hook again (which is where it had been before you removed it), can you please take a look to see whether your concerns have been addressed? I certainly wouldn't want to promote it without knowing that you're satisfied. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Of the sources I can see, it looks fine now. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:53, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Thanks. Glad to hear it. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:04, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

Best wishes for the New Year!
Wishing you and yours a joyous, healthful, and productive 2013!

Please accept a belated thank you for the well wishes upon my

FA
process, with the help of many dedicated Wikipedians!

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Dami Mission

Nikkimaria, could you please check this one for close paraphrasing? I had to pull it from a prep set minutes after I'd promoted it—most embarrassing—when I realized a key fact was wrong, and then checking the sources I thought I saw a familiar phrase... which I had. The creator has made a bunch of edits and said it's fixed, but under the circumstances I'd feel better if you could check it before it gets a clean bill of health. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:03, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I very much appreciate your thoroughness: I was afraid there'd be more to find. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Erika Nordby

Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Dl2000 (talk) 01:21, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Messines 1917

I've incorporated most of the suggestions made about the Messines 1917 article, are you happy to support A-class status or so you think more work is necessary? Thanks. Keith-264 (talk) 18:19, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Keith, congrats on the promotion! Sorry, didn't get there in time. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:52, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Black Action Movement

This article has been fixed, re-reviewed, and approved since you pulled it from a set for close paraphrasing. Did you want to take another look at it to make sure your concerns were all addressed? BlueMoonset (talk) 19:54, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm...I think a third party needs to look at FN1. There's some continued but fairly minor close paraphrasing in the first part of the article, and in the section that was reworked, some of the material isn't supported by that source despite being cited to it. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:22, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can you say so there? Orlady's the person I'd usually go to for something like this, but she isn't a third party, and you're DYK's best guide when it comes to close paraphrasing and source checking. I'm not up to doing it myself, and I can't just negate the approval without having done so. Or can you find another third party? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:17, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've left a comment there; I don't have time at the moment to rewrite it properly, though. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:52, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I know what you mean about not having time: I was just looking at Template:Did you know nominations/Santa Rosa de la Eminencia castle for prose issues, and put in the ? icon. After I was done posting it I ran the one major English source against Duplication detector, and what I got back looked dicey, but I couldn't be sure that most of the matches weren't things that have limited ways of being described. I do think there are likely some problems at least, so if you do get the chance, I'd appreciate you checking it out. (And if you can handle the Spanish sources, so much the better.) Apologies for dumping more in your lap. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:28, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No Spanish, but I'll take a look at the English. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:56, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And although the second History paragraph is a touch close, I think the prose is the bigger issue here, and wouldn't hold this up on paraphrasing alone. The source itself has as many problems as the article, might be better to find a Spanish speaker to look at sourcing and translation (I suspect it's from a Spanish original). Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good to have confirmation on the prose; you probably noticed a few of my comments, though I was only mentioning what jumped out and mugged me. Do you know someone who would have Spanish that might be amenable to doing a translation and sourcing check? I'm not Spanish-enabled either. :-) Thanks also for the Balinese cleanup... BlueMoonset (talk) 05:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is where I usually look for foreign-language spotcheckers, though it was set up for FAC. Of those listed you might ask Sandy, although I'm not sure whether she'd be willing - she's been pretty fed up with DYK lately. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:46, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking about asking Simon, whose name I've seen in a couple of DYKs recently, though instead we seem to have hit a different level altogether. Another castle DYK by the same author,
Talk:Santa María de La Cabeza castle/GA2. Should I ask him to get involved now, or wait for things to settle down first? BlueMoonset (talk) 20:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
]
I see you two are discussing at your talk...I just left some comments at a PR by the same user, which I hadn't realized until now. It looks like he's a WikiCup participant, which might be influencing his actions in terms of speed and quantity over quality. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:21, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

Hi Nikki, this FAC has consensus to promote at this stage but could I trouble you for one of your patented source reviews before I close it? Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:39, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Belated tks, Nikki, and sorry about the ESP... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:41, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Campbell's dwarf hamster

Hello! If you have time and it's not too much trouble, could you provide a few suggestions on the peer review page? I would really appreciate your help, as I am thinking about nominating the article for a GA review, but I want to be sure it is ready. Thank you Puffin Let's talk! 11:10, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Canang sari

Nikkimaria, I'm trying to build some prep sets (we have only one ready) and find someone to promote the prep set we have because we have no queues ready (40 minutes until we're supposed to promote one), so I don't have time to clean up after this one. I've put the X on it, because the copying is significant (and from a non-reliable source to boot), but something needs to be done and I'm not sure what. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for this one. Do you think you could recheck Template:Did you know nominations/Dami Mission, which is said to have been cleaned up? The author is new and probably needs pointing at all remaining paraphrasing issues, as I'm not sure Chienlit would have done so even if the prose has been fixed. I appreciate it. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet

Hello. I did just pick a random admin off of the WP:admin talk page for help :) . I was going to create a nomination for 2 accounts I suspect of being sockpuppets of two already banned accounts

talk) 20:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Hey Portland, I don't do much work with SPI so you're probably better off asking one of the
clerks. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Peer review request -- French and Indian War-era fort

Nikkimaria, I saw your name listed on the PR volunteers list, and I thought based on your interests you might be able to help review my article,

WP:MIL and passed GAN yesterday; I'm now pressing on to try to do FAC. The subject-matter is very narrow, and relatively minor, so sources are challenging and few and far between. I would appreciate any help you can give me! Cdtew (talk) 12:35, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
]

  • I've also addressed all of your comments on the FA Review, if you'd like to revisit. Thanks! Cdtew (talk) 18:48, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • And one last thing to bother you about -- If finally found an image that I think has a legitimate PD explanation for the Fort Dobbs article. I was hoping you'd re-visit your image check for that single image, and give it either your imprimatur, or tell me to get rid of it. The image is [1]. Thanks! Cdtew (talk) 05:31, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 07 January 2013

FA Review of Jainism

Hello. Thanks for your review on Jainism. I have addressed the points you raised. If possible please advise me on hot to further improve the article to gain your support for FA.

talk) 15:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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DYK for Allan Ronald

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply

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Out-of-process FAC

Nikki, would you mind exercising your admin tools and deleting this page for me? Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • (talk page stalker) Done. Ian, this is why you need a mop. I'll nom you (wink) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Tks for taking care of that mate but, arrgh, no mop pls on principle -- I've already politely turned down 4 or 5 nom offers. If there was a discrete 'page deletor' tool available (there's a 'page mover' one isn't there?) then I'd take it but that's it... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'd point to "no big deal", but the wild wastelands that are RFA kinda prove that essay wrong. Alrighty. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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FAC - John Le Mesurier

Hi Nikkimaria, I wonder if I could please request a reference check on an article currently at FAC:

talk) 09:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Many thanks Nikki - it's much appreciated and we've now covered all the relevant points you've raised. On the last point you made (comparing fn169 and 170), a subsequent tweak further up the page removed a citation so they all moved up one, which is why my colleague couldn't see 170. I've now addressed the point and 168 and 169 are both consistent and correct. Thanks again - SchroCat (talk) 05:10, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Skye Fall

With the exception of FN 78, where I need to pick up the "Election Supplement" page number, I believe all of the issues you raised at the Skye FAC have been addressed or answered. If you have time to reply and/or check them over again I'd appreciate it. Ben MacDui 12:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Campbell's dwarf hamster PR

I have done everything that you ask on the peer review, are you happy that the issues raised have been suitably addressed? Do you think the article is now ready to be nominated for good article status? Puffin Let's talk! 19:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Puffin, you'd probably stand a good chance at GA now. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:50, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting one image review

Hi! Will it be possible for you to kindly review this image in National Film Award for Best Actress which is currently in FLC? I guess this image does not have appropriate US licensing. In that case, this image would be removed from the list. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:50, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • (talk page stalker) No, it isn't free in the US. I've raised the issue at an FPo nomination before, now going to nominate the image for deletion. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:18, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

October to December 2012 Milhist Peer, A-class and FAC reviews

 The WikiChevrons 
By order of the
Featured Article Candidate reviews for the period Oct-Dec 2012, I am delighted to award you the WikiChevrons. AustralianRupert (talk) 09:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Template:Did you know nominations/Black Action Movement

Nikkimaria, it looks like both Orlady and Kiefer.Wolfowitz have taken a whack at this one, Orlady in the First protest section and Kiefer in the Third protest. Can you please take another look and see whether the issues you raised have been addressed? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:39, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that the article is ready for the main page. I still see too much close paraphrasing in the first section, using the AA Chronicle source, which need not be a reliable source. The AA Chronicle seems to be a democracy-movement paper, and the article does not appear to have the NPOV prose of traditional journalism. (I corrected some errors in the third section.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz 15:32, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the new review. At this point, I think it's up to Kevin to address the issues you've raised. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:41, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tripura image review

As suggested by you and Skinsmoke, I withdrew the FAC. However, I acted upon your image review, and replied there in the FAC page. I will be highly obliged if you kindly have a look at that (and the changes made in the image pages), and provide your opinion. Thanks a lot, --Dwaipayan (talk) 20:16, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Dwaipayanc, that's mostly good (unless of course you end up adding or changing more images). The only thing I'm unsure on is {{PD-ineligible}} - that tag says the image is ineligible for any copyright, but you already had an Indian copyright tag on it. Is it ineligible or not? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:36, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure. This PD-ineligible has been used in some country flag images, while other country flag images have used other copyright tags. Will try to solve this mystery!--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A query on U of Utah course's banner

Hi Nikkimaria, I went ahead and added the course banner to the Course page below the syllabus, but there is a red link now (saying "the course page does not exist"). Does this mean it does not exist at this moment or is there another problem? Thanks. BerikG (talk) 21:13, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Berik, the link was pointing to the wrong place - I've fixed it now. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for your help with the DYK.

Wha? 04:29, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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No problem, was running low on QPQs anyways. Nice hook. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:33, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll be looking for one of your items when I bring
Wha? 04:43, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Template:Did you know nominations/Frances Vane, Viscountess Vane

Nikkimaria, I just replaced the two prep hook removals you did this evening, and while looking for hooks to replace the pictured one of Catherine Courtney, I was strongly considering this pictured one of Lady Fanny ... until I realized that the article used the same source as the Courtney one did (Oxford) for the bulk of the article, and the article was by the same creator. So I selected another lead hook instead, and would like you to check this one, because I think it's a great portrait and could be an excellent lead hook, but not if the same close paraphrasing issues end up being found. Since you do have access to this (paywall) source, can you please check this article? There are two other approved ones that are also heavily dependent on said source: Template:Did you know nominations/Marian Cripps, Baroness Parmoor and Template:Did you know nominations/Kathleen Simon, Viscountess Simon. While the latter does use Oxford, it is equally dependent on The Times; most of its paragraphs just cite both of those sources at the end. Thanks for checking on these. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:42, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fanny and Simon are definitely problematic, flagged as such. Parmoor has some close paraphrasing, but probably isn't close enough to deny DYK, so I've left it. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for checking all three. I'm definitely glad I asked, and picked one other than Fanny.
(Adding later, which gives me a chance to add a belated sig): I just noticed that another by the same author, Template:Did you know nominations/William Vane, 2nd Viscount Vane (Fanny's husband), has just passed with AGF on the offline sources. Sorry to have to ask, but I think a check is important under the circumstances. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:22, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:19, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

re:UDAC DYK

I noticed you pulled the UDAC hook from the queue after copyediting made it shorter. I've brought it back above the threshold. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 08:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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What was your first Wiki posting and how did you get started as a Wiki contributor? New to all of this as a student but it seems like you know what you're doing!

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Civility

I've responded to your post there, and have been a little pedantic and linked policy page in my response, as I don't know who will be commenting and wish to be clear. Please do not take my linking and careful explanations as condescending or rude; I mean only to be clear. KillerChihuahua 23:05, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I too was being a bit careful about phrasing. Replied there. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:17, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, we're on the same page then. One never knows who might join a discussion in progress, and it is generally better to try to be clear and careful at the outset than try to clarify after misunderstandings occur. KillerChihuahua 23:34, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for chiming in on the PR request for Fort Yellowstone. Mike Cline just got the article to GA and as I've done some work on the article as well, it needs excellent neutral feedback such as yours.--MONGO 19:34, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Close paraphrasing issues

Hi! I would like to thank you for your comments on my DYK submissions. While I was a bit disappointed that I didn't succeed in avoiding the issue of close paraphrasing before nominating the articles, I must admit that your comments forced me to search for more sources and more information, which ultimately led to better articles. I should also note that Accedie's help was essential. Could you please take another look at articles about Lady Simon, Lady Courtney, Lady Vane and Lord Vane, and tell me what you think? Surtsicna (talk) 12:51, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Self Introduction

Hi, Nikkimaria. Thanks so much for volunteering to provide us with help. My name is Yue Chuen,Tai but you can call me Travis. I am from Malaysia and I am currently a senior, business economics. This is my second year here at APU. I am excited to work on this project and knowing that there are such helpful wikipedians out there like yourself really makes me feel a lot better! I am looking forward to finishing this project with your help and guidance!

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OCLC

Hi Nikki, I was going through your comments on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Canis Minor/archive1 and was handling one source with an invalid ISBN. I could only find a valid OCLC number for the book, everywhere I looked gave the same (invalid) ISBN. Can we just use the OCLC number, or do we have to find the right ISBN? Thanks very much for your comments. Keilana|Parlez ici 18:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Keilana, that's very odd - does the book itself have the wrong ISBN? If you can't find it I suppose the OCLC would suffice. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's super weird. WorldCat only gives the OCLC, Google Books shows that it exists but gives an error when you click on it, and every other index in the web gives the bad ISBN. I'll keep looking, thanks for your opinion. Good to know the OCLC will do in a pinch! :) Keilana|Parlez ici 21:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Oblivion

Hey, I noticed your comments on the

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Request for help

Template:Did you know nominations/Political development in modern Gibraltar, I have a DYK nomination, an editor has commented that some of the references you formatted for me don't work. I can't see what is wrong, would you be able to help? Regards, Wee Curry Monster talk 20:38, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Think I've fixed it - one missing parameter, two inconsistencies in the way refs were named. Part of the problem with seeing the issue arises from the mix of sfn and hand-coded short citations, so you may want to "consistentify" that at some point. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:13, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Got some articles in the pipeline, so would appreciate a few pointers. Wee Curry Monster talk 23:53, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Harry Yates (pilot)

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