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I remember seeing short cuts to Manual of Style articles using the "MOS:" prefix on some pages somewhere... Well anyways thanks for correcting me.

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Hi just wanted to let you know that some of your recent edit summaries were incorrectly linked to

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WP:USPLACE

There are many reasons why the "X County, State" convention is used in the United States. Did you attempt to gain any kind of consensus for all these moves through discussion? It's been discussed before, at length. Mass-moving articles against consensus is disruptive. Omnedon (talk) 01:38, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Moves

When moving articles, please watch the spelling. You recently moved "List of 1998 Nashville tornado outbreak tornadoes" to

List of 1998 Nashville, Tennesse tornado outbreak tornadoes, in which "Tennessee" is mis-spelled. But further, did you seek any consensus on moving the neighborhood articles you recently moved? Omnedon (talk) 19:34, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply
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The current consensus is for associated pages to follow consistent naming patterns, hence
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But "White City, Tulsa" doesn't follow the same naming pattern. Where do you find this consensus? I am simply asking. Omnedon (talk) 19:41, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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OK, but you might consider bringing up the subject at the appropriate place rather than moving unilaterally again. Omnedon (talk) 19:54, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Comma-City" is the appropriate disambiguator if the topic is a neighborhood within a city; "comma-state" is appropriate if the topic is a city or town in its own right. "White City, Tulsa" thus isn't in any conflict with what Prisencolinensinainciusol did — I'm not going to offer an opinion one way or the other on the appropriateness of the page moves, but a neighborhood within Tulsa doesn't have anything to do with the question one way or the other. Bearcat (talk) 20:53, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
...which is why I was questioning the moves. Neighborhoods are not the same as counties or populated places in terms of naming conventions. Where is it stated that "Comma-City" is appropriate for neighborhoods within a city? Having said that -- I'm not particularly invested in neighborhood articles. It's just that these moves follow the pattern of a previous set of moves, most of which I had to spend time to revert. Omnedon (talk) 20:58, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
USPLACE says "Neighborhoods within New York City are identified by the standard
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Yes, that's New York City. You're saying a borough is equivalent to a city? As for the moves I reverted, it was all the county moves you did that removed the state from the title. I put most of them back to their standard locations, and another editor did the rest. I thought you were aware of that. Omnedon (talk) 21:25, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Heh I didn't realize you were being intentionally subtle there, but yeah I am aware of your revets. However this situation is different, either USPLACE needs to be amended to include guidelines for neighborhoods across the country, or those articles themselves need to be fixed.--
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Wikipedia consensus seems to think that the five boroughs are each considered cities.--
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But when you say "fixed" -- where does it say that they need to be where you are moving them? If it's not defined anywhere, surely that needs to be discussed first. Omnedon (talk) 21:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't clearly say it on any official policy as far as I know. I'm sure it has been discussed before but I haven't been able to find an archived discussion yet. Examples of a standardized format can be found
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This is the point I'm trying to make. You say you are fixing the articles; but you're not using any guideline or discussion to support that. Before doing a lot of moves, consider discussing it first. That's the general takeaway from the county situation, though the specifics are not the same. Omnedon (talk) 21:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Having just gone through a bunch of esports-related articles, I'd also advise you to discuss things before going on unilateral moving sprees. Or if there is an ongoing discussion actually wait for it to conclude. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 19:46, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Going along the same lines as
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Did you plan to create article for PartinG and Sos

I suggested to create an article for PartinG and Sos before[1]. Did you plan to do it? Miracle dream (talk)

Sorry I think that message must've gotten buried in my talk page and I forgot about it. But yeah sure, I'll see if I can put together a page for PartinG and Sos. Before that, I'm going to double check if they're
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PS:You might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Collegiate sports (USA)... GWFrog (talk) 02:23, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's still referred to by fans and some media outlets as the Fighting Sioux, and besides the team was known by that for so many years that it's a part of the history. Wikipedia is
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Hey, I noticed you were editing the pro ssbm article. Right now I noticed you have a comment I may want to change that to a vote the edits are irrelevant if the article gets deleted. I think both the pro ssbm and

SmashBoards is notable, I've been posting sources. Valoem talk contrib 19:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Okay, which one is it?--
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I would recommend inputting a vote for both discussions. Valoem talk contrib 20:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okay sure I'll do that. For some reason I'm thinking that's against the rules because I created the SSBM article. Also I'm personally kind of on the line about the SmashBoards page but I think I'll decide its a keep.--
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It's not against the rules its actually encouraged to participate and vote in the discussion if you created the article. :) Valoem talk contrib 22:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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CLG LoL should be emphasized to an extent because it's the most notable of all the teams and League of Legends is by far the most popular spectator eSport. Emphasizing something else puts
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Is a yearbook a reliable source to confirm attendance at a school

See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Is_a_yearbook_a_reliable_source_to_confirm_attendance_at_a_school for the discussion I started and feel free to chime in there. I'm still leery of using a yearbook on this basis and I will abide by whatever consensus is reached there. Alansohn (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wondering if you are interested

I have this in my userspace User:Valoem/Isai Alvarado, he is notable I have added sources, but due to COI it is best I not move this into the mainspace. Perhaps you would be interested. 173.71.93.146 (talk) 00:50, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll move the article into mainspace. Personally, I have some doubts about the notability of Isai as stand alone article, but we'll have to see what other editors think.--
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Mainspacing the article is your way of saying you think it meets notability guidelines. The point of a COI editor asking someone else to do it is to have another editor's discretion. I wouldn't mainspace something unless I was willing to defend it—otherwise it just creates work for others down the line. – 
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I know him personally so I thought it best not to move it to mainspace myself, however sources do suggest some notability. Grantland and
Czar: There are two other sources from MLG which cover him I believe they may be found under waybackmachine, sources are no longer on their website. I would be happy to defend the article if an AfD is opened, however I would not move this article into the mainspace myself. Valoem talk contrib 23:40, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply
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My note was just to encourage P not to mainspace an article that they're not comfortable with. The article's current sourcing is no bueno. It should use
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Czar: If you read the sources I provided you would see that it is directly cited in the Grantland article "One Smasher emerged as the idol of this nascent international network: Isai (pronounced “Isaiah”), whose legend looms over Apex. An enigmatic figure who’s generally regarded as the best ever to play the original Super Smash Bros., Isai won SSB64 singles at Apex last year, but he isn’t attending the 2015 tournament. Even so, his name keeps coming up, usually in the hushed tones that a golfer in the early aughts might have used to talk about Tiger Woods." Valoem talk contrib 00:42, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply
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I missed that in my skim. But it isn't in the second source, which should be removed from that sentence. It's also a bit of an exceptional claim to only have one citation. – 
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 Done Ok I've more the second citation to the bottom and I added two more sources. I think we have a shot at AfD if it comes to that right now. Valoem talk contrib 02:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can I just move it into the mainspace now, if it's ready?--
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Please do, hopefully UltraDark can also possibly find sources. This article may pass AfD only way to find out is to try. Valoem talk contrib 15:18, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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User talk:Alakzi#Template:Louisiana High School Athletic Association
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So we need to create the links, which I started and then almost immediately had that content deleted. I had it restored to:

I'll put those back when they have some additional sources. I guess District 4 will be a good guinea pig to see how much of a fight we have on our hands. By the way, in that process I discovered somebody else had already created all or many of the links, so it was a wholesale effort to wipe all of that person's work out that turned those links red. Whoever this deletionist faction is, they are trying to establish a precedent to wipe out all of this kind of content, which might eventually include all the other content you and I have already created. We need to establish the opposite precedent that there is significant coverage for all of this content. That it is notable. Mappers is very useful to getting the league structure correct and sourced. Now the question upon us is to find journalistic coverage of these leagues. I'd rather not spend my time googling every league in the US but until they stop successfully deleting this kind of content, we will have to keep slapping them in the face with the coverage that is there. Trackinfo (talk) 18:26, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since I wrote to you earlier, District 4 was deleted and I had to complain to get it restored. I'm writing an essay at User:Trackinfo/sandbox/NHSL and you are welcome to contribute. Trackinfo (talk) 02:00, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can you link me some of the AFDs, this is a bit much to take in at once.--Prisencolin (talk) 04:44, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
None of these got an AfD. They all got the speedy treatment. I am the only one arguing the Keep side of the case vs a bunch of reflexive delete A7 actions. I still do not know who created this sequence of articles. If it was not you, I hope it was a local who might have the important local knowledge to make these articles into indisputable Keeps. Trackinfo (talk) 06:11, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think the best case for these to be kept would be for them to all be in a large article called list of LHSAA districts or something. I'll see if I can dig them up some of the local print sources out there.--Prisencolin (talk) 02:11, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Been holding off an commenting on the page and a bit tired of dealing with these AFDs. I'll be there in a bit.--Prisencolin (talk) 03:47, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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