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DYK nomination of Niya (mythology)

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Sławobóg, there have been further reviewer comments on your nomination. Please check in when you get the chance. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

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DYK nomination of Niya (mythology)

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DYK for Niya (mythology)

On 20 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Niya (mythology), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Niya was the Polish god of the underworld? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Niya (mythology). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Niya (mythology)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For your contributions to the interesting but underdeveloped niche of Slavic mythology, please accept the classic Wikipedia's barnstar award :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you add a mention of Lel and Polel there? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:59, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Lel and Polel

On 27 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lel and Polel, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Lel and Polel are considered divine twins in Slavic mythology? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lel and Polel. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lel and Polel), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK nomination of Slavic creation myths

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Alatyr

I just moved this over from the Russian wiki,

Draft:Alatyr (mythology). Want to take a look at it? If it goes to DYK, I'll split credit with you. --evrik (talk) 22:01, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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DYK for Slavic creation myth

On 24 October 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Slavic creation myth, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that according to Slavic mythology, the creation of the world required the cooperation of a "good god" and an "evil god"? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Slavic creation myth), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Alatyr (mythology)

On 10 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alatyr (mythology), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in Russian folklore, the Alatyr is considered the "father to all stones"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alatyr (mythology). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alatyr (mythology)), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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December 2020

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Talk:Slavic Native Faith. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. The very next personal attack you direct at Æo (or any other editor) on that talk page will result in an ANI filing. Ravenswing 12:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ravenswing: can you show me where exactly am I attacking someone personally? Sławobóg (talk) 13:32, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Are you deliberately being obtuse? "You lie again" is just the latest of your several unwarranted and uncivil insults to Æo on that talk page. Ravenswing 22:57, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Are you deliberately being obtuse? I listed examples of lies of this user. Sławobóg (talk) 09:03, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No, you did not: you listed areas where you disagree with the editor. Your personal opinion does not constitute inerrant fact, and disagreeing with you does not constitute intentional deception. You have consistently characterized his positions as "lies" and "manipulation," and those are
civility policies. Do not commit these again. Ravenswing 16:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Yes, I did: I gave example of redirecting Krodo to Rod without single source (even stupid or dated - not NPOV, unsourced) - it was just his personal ideology. After I updated article with sources and scholars' many different opinions, he accused me of promoting my own opinions and favorite scientists. Sławobóg (talk) 16:42, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Svarožic

Nice article. Try DYKing it, now made much more easy with User:SD0001/DYK-helper. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:41, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For your contribution

The Editor's Barnstar
This barnstar is given to you for your significant contribution to the creation of articles about Ancient Slavic mythology and culturology. I especially thank you for creating the article "Dziady"--Noraskulk (talk) 11:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deities of Slavic religion

Hello, Slawobog. While researching folkloric material, I found a citation by professor Monika Krapej about a Slovene being named Jutrman, possibly related to dawn.[1]

Another deity of obscure origins is a goddess named Zimtserla (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Deities_of_Slavic_religion#Simzerla,_deity_of_dawn_and_flowers?). 189.122.57.144 (talk) 23:45, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello. Jutrman is interesting, but I would look into literature mentioned there by Krapej for more information. Zimtserla is probably pseudo-goddess forged in 19th century. As far I as know all gods that exist in 19th century books but not in modern literature are fakelore or misunderstanding of some personal names or spirits. I'm working on article about pseudo-deities right know. Sławobóg (talk) 10:06, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Map requests

Hello!

I saw that you requested .svg versions of some maps. I created some based of the maps you wanted and uploaded them here:

Great Moravia
Slavic tribes

I hope I could be of help!

Revilo

  • Hey @Revilo1803:, maps look very good. I have only one more request: can you zoom in these maps so they focus more on stuff they explain? Because for now they show too much unnecessary terrain even outside of Europe. It is problematic especially for tribes one, because you can't see text at all. Great Moravia could also use a zoom, but not necessary that much. Sławobóg (talk) 08:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Sławobóg:, I zoomed in a bit on the maps. I don't think there is a smart way of making the labels on the tribes one legible in the small preview, so one needs to open the file to read them. I still hope that they are acceptable. Revilo1803 (talk) 13:40, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Revilo1803: This is much better, I think you zoomed Great Moravia too much maybe? Second version was better IMO, there were more "reference points". Tribes, are better than original and can't be better. I'll experiment with different fonts later, maybe. Thank you for you work. Sławobóg (talk) 14:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dzień dobry państwu (panu, panie, paniczku, panienkę, paniulkię, ....)!

Your new article reminded me that for a long time I wanted to write an article on pseudo-mythology, which I started right now. Although I tagged it {{under construction}} as a protection from drive-by deletionsit wikignomes while I am living my real life, I would very much like for you to contribute to it at any time. Lembit Staan (talk) 21:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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In the words of Larry Sanger wikipedia's neutrality is dead.

I understand that you wanted to change the List of Slavic deities to be more accurate and have created the List of Slavic pseudo-deities to cover the rest but come on. How is the following admirable on here: ″Václav Hájek, a Czech chronicler who is accused of making up many events in his work, lists the deities in his Chronicle: Klimba, Krasatina, Krosina. ″ at least find some sources that agree with you. And no, no it doesn't matter if you're right or not. Without a source that's at best original research - which is a no-no on here.

They say the way to hell is paved with good intentions, well, that whole section reads like you have an agenda. And you do have an agenda, one that seems to be commendable at first glance, to spread accurate information about the Slavic pantheon and folklore, but that's not the language you should be using on here.

"Slavic creation myth" - reference used for fairy tale and myth comparison: a thank you

Hello, Slawobog. I'd just like to let you know that two references you added to the "Slavic creation myth" article (Religia Slowian/Toporov and the Dobrzan Land/Egg Princess) were used in two other articles about fairy tale ad myth comparison ("The Love for Three Oranges (fairy tale)" and "World Tree") - with the due credit. So, I'd like to thank you.189.122.57.144 (talk) 19:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting some article expansion help

Greetings,

Requesting you to visit

Draft:Avret Esir Pazarları
, an article about non-elite common women slavery in Ottoman times, and pl. do help expand the same if topic interests you.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 14:33, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jesza

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I also gave Jezowskiperson such a message. --Cyfal (talk) 20:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Waligóra and and Wyrwidąb

Hello, Slawobog. Not to mock or belittle their legend, but one thing I noticed is that their names (and meanings) seem to reoccur in fairy tales that are classified in the

Aarne-Thompson-Uther Index
as ATU 301 and AaTh 301B. In Slavic variants, they may appear as Gorynya-Bogatyr and Dubynya-Bogatyr, Vertogor/Vertigor ("Twist-Mountain") and Vertodub ("Twist-Oaks"), and the like. Could there be any connection?

"The Witch and Sister of the Sun"

"Ivan Medvedko, Usynya, Gorynya and Dubynya Bogatyrs" 189.122.57.144 (talk) 01:58, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: Found an article on them: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%8F,_%D0%94%D1%83%D0%B1%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%B8_%D0%A3%D1%81%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%8F

However, similarly named characters appear in the context of a widespread European tale called "Jean de l'Ours" (Western European counterpart to Slavic Ivan Medvedko): French "Tord-Chêne" and "Tranche-Montagne" ("Twistoak" and "Cutmountain"). 189.122.57.144 (talk) 02:05, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Radogost

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Radogost (mythology) page, including changing its name. While I'm sure your intent is good (I won't accuse you of vandalism, the way you accused me), that type of transformation has to be discussed on the talk page. I reverted your edit because I don't know what your motive is (your edit summaries did not clearly indicate what the purpose of the changes was). By undoing my revert, you are now engaged in an edit war with me. I assume you must know that this is not acceptable. Rather than fighting about this, please bring your concerns to the talk page so they can be discussed in a civil manner. I'm sure that if you can present your reasoning in a sufficiently clear manner, I have no reason to disagree with you. Thank you. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 23:40, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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WP:RS (Ivan Hudec was a poet and politician - not an authority on the subject, you might as well ask the painter's opinion) and it's also horribly narrated. My article cointans very similar informations but with better references, explains mainstream POV, is more detailed and has better editing - this why I call your reverts "vandalism" - you are literally reverting article with similar content to worse version. All articles about Slavic mythology are terrible and they need to be rewritten. Sławobóg (talk) 08:19, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Sławobóg there is clearly an issue to be discussed here, but the fact that you think there isn't, and that you can unilaterally impose your version without attempting to reach a consensus with other editors—while calling good-faith edits vandalism—marks you as an intractable editor, and it is apparent to me that trying to reach a civil agreement with you will be difficult, if not impossible. I'm going to escalate this issue. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Missing cites in Etymology of Svarog

The article cites "Łowmiański 2004" and "Derksen 2020" but no such sources are listed in the bibliography. Can you please add? Also, suggest installing a script to highlight such errors in the future. All you need to do is copy and paste importScript('User:Svick/HarvErrors.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Svick/HarvErrors.js]] to your common.js page. Thanks, Renata3 17:45, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done! Thanks for noticing. I'll use that script too! Sławobóg (talk) 18:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image on Porevit

Hello. You have removed my insertion of an image from Commons of Porevit with an edit summary of "Stop adding this image.." Could you please tell me about the time this image had been added before? I did check the article history and talk page before adding it and didn't see any dispute so I added this image (from a famous work) that is listed on wikidata for Porevit.

Moreover, if you think this image shouldn't be associated with Porevit, perhaps you should remove it from wikidata as well. Aithus (talk) 14:51, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Aithus: Hey, sorry, I messed something up, I was sure I had already removed this graphic. This graphic is mixing image of Porevit and Porenut (face on chest) and because of that it is confusing for new readers. I'm removing it from WD. Sławobóg (talk) 15:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Guidance!

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Will take into consideration newly quoted sources and make a more neutral edit regarding etymology and else on the article

Dodola. Considering the connection with Perun, the article on Perun needs improvement and would be much appreciated that the editing is done by an editor interested in mythology. Best. Miki Filigranski (talk) 14:52, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply
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@Diannaa hey, do I really need to do this when I'm author of the copied text? Sławobóg (talk) 20:32, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's still a good idea, because the text may have been edited in the meantime by others, and it's useful to patrollers. — Diannaa (talk) 21:28, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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多多123 The chapter "Rituals and beliefs" describes the historical rituals involved and the historical context, so it should be moslty past tense. Celebration is also popular today, but I don't have good sources on that (I don't like media for such stuff). Sławobóg (talk) 14:42, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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多多123 The problem is that the holiday was originally celebrated from the night of the 23rd to the 24th (and usually it still is), but some people today move it to 21-22 (solstice). PS I use visual editor and mentioning here is easier that way. Sławobóg (talk) 14:58, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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多多123 That is why I didn't mention that in the article. PS that is probably not helpful but article is translated from ru.wiki and expanded a little bit. Sławobóg (talk) 15:14, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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多多123 Well I didn't know how to write such short and simple information in a different way. You can edit it however you want, unless you want me to do something with it. Sławobóg (talk) 15:56, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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多多123 maybe "The ceremonies were attended mainly by young men and women and the ceremonies themselves took place near bodies of water, generally on elevated ground."? Sławobóg (talk) 16:04, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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多多123 By "since... sources appear" I mean't they first appear in 17th century, isn't it correct? I don't know when these stopped to appear but these don't appear today. There are references in main article, I can add them when you are finished. Sławobóg (talk) 17:17, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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多多123 whops, it should be "Kupala songs", I somehow missed that. Sławobóg (talk) 18:38, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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