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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:10, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WriterDuet

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Nothing establishing actual independent notability and substance and what's here is simply advert-laced and is not otherwise convincing of

WP:NOT policy, hence deletion is the only solution; sources themselves are trivial and unconvincing and lend nothing for substance.  {MordeKyle  23:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. (

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Metin Kaya

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BLP-Prod removed by author for BLP article with low quality sources. Of the three sources, one is a single line, One is the front page of the court, the third mentions him as a candidate of some kind. With valid sources could be a good article, but at the moment fails

WP:BIO scope_creep (talk) 22:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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People get Wikipedia articles by being the subject of
primary source profiles on the website of their own employer. Bearcat (talk) 18:49, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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For the purposes of
WP:POLITICIAN it has always been accepted that the web site of the "employer" (which is not always a legally accurate description of the relationship to the body of which the subject is a member), such as that of a parliament or a government or a court, is sufficient. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 20:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Solely for the purposes of very basic
reliably source the article's content. Bearcat (talk) 22:49, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • This discussion is about this article, which is about a subject that obviously passes
    WP:BLPPROD tags on articles that have sources. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 08:21, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • By "no it's not" are you really trying to say that this discussion is not about Metin Kaya? If so then you need to withdraw the nomination because the way that you created it says that it is about Metin Kaya, and him alone. And please cut the patronising language about "really trying to be kind". This article has, and had before you started trying to get it deleted, a proper verifiable reference saying that Kaya was a supreme court judge in a country more populous than France, the UK or Italy, easily passing
    WP:POLITICIAN. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 22:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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ya i agree with scope creep. I thought Wikipedia was against unnamed servers, because I noticed you don't even have a user name. Please get an identity. Thank you! Rebekahalnablack —Preceding undated comment added 00:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion discussions are supposed to be evaluated on the strengths of the arguments given, not on ad hominem reasons such as identity. But I suppose I must congratulate you on spotting such a difficult fact to discern as that I edit without a user name. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 20:51, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:10, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Elena Taube Bailey

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Of all the sources in this article, only three mention the subject at all. Of those, one is an

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  • Keep Article is based on Legitimate, Reliable Sources, such as the East Bay Timesand magazines. The information is clearly there. Not sure why the few here are having trouble with their searches. These are just two source examples of many others. The article also meets notability, especially on interfaith religious issues/movement.Pettya (talk) 00:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC) Pettya (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. (Striking !vote by blocked sock.)[reply]
The East Bay Times? Sheesh. Since when is "interfaith religious issues/movement" a criteria for notability?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:30, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The East Bay Times report is just one source noting the individual. The larger point is the individual is the reason that the Washington National Cathedral now permits interfaith marriages inside the cathedral and held it's first Jewish-Christian wedding in U.S. history! That's the notable part. This hasn't happened until this individual got involved.Pettya (talk) 00:47, 20 December 2016 (UTC) Pettya (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Comment - The first source only mentions her once - that's a Passing Mention. That's the problem with the sources - if you remove the ones that only mention her name once or twice, the list shrinks very quickly. Exemplo347 (talk) 00:21, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Response to Comment - The amount of times a name is listed in an article does NOT connote the notability of the subject and it's proclivity for deletion. It's the effort and works of the subject that matter, which the sources report. In light of the subject's notability in advancing interfaith dialogue- making Jewish-Christian marriages possible at the Washington National Cathedral for example, is notable in the Jewish Christian movement.Dove.Leesa (talk) 00:32, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You couldn't be more wrong. The standard for notability, applied to Biographies of Living Persons, specifically requires Substantial Coverage in Reliable Independent Sources. You may want to have a read of
WP:BLP. Exemplo347 (talk) 00:36, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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You misunderstood, it notes "Substantial Coverage in Reliable Independent 'Sources'"...meaning plural sources...substantial mentions of the person in various sources. It does not say that one article needs to mention the individual more than five or three times. If Wiki is to execute your judgment on this then the rule would say "the single source must mention the person more than once." Since Wiki didn't write it that way...that means it's up for debate and I debate that it's notable and covered substantially.Dove.Leesa (talk) 00:42, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well your misinterpretation of the policy is quite unfortunate. Let's just see what other editors think. Exemplo347 (talk) 00:46, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Agreed. Jews for Jesus is a reputable site? Or an article written by a minister?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 13:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This subject possesses independent notability in the realm of interfaith dialogue/movement (specifically, creating acceptance in the Washington National Cathedral of Jewish-Christian marriages- and holding the first Jewish-Christian wedding ceremony at the cathedral in U.S. history) and the federal government. The sources (just to list a few: magazines, the East Bay Times, Jews for Jesus, etc.) are clearly legitimate and show the subject's notable work.Dove.Leesa (talk) 00:26, 20 December 2016 (UTC) (Striking !vote by blocked sock.)[reply]
  • Keep. Subject is credible. The article is well written, well sourced- sources from reputable magazines and newspapers such as, the East Bay Times. Subject is notable for efforts in the interfaith dialogue and
    National Cathedral in D.C. to permit Jewish Christian weddings (this is the first time in history that this has happened), representing the cathedral in interfaith dialogue at the Washington Hebrew Congregation; Subject is notable for role in presidential campaigning and federal government. Unlike Brycehughes|Brycehughes notes, the Washingtonian is a reputable magazine, just like Vogue or Vanity Fair, so his bias on the Washingtonian magazine needs to be deleted or disregarded. The subject clearly has independent notability in the interfaith dialogue movement and federal government contributions.65.222.202.205 (talk) 20:03, 19 December 2016 (UTC) (Striking !vote by blocked user.)[reply
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:10, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

SolbegSoft

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Fails

WP:ORGDEPTH for lack of available reliable sources that cover the subject in detail. Available sources seem to be limited to routine business listings. - MrX 20:34, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:11, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Akasa Singh

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The subject seems to be singer who has just made their debut with one playback song in a movie. I am unable to find reliable sources to satisfy

WP:TOOSOON to me. -- Lemongirl942 (talk) 15:12, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete a playback singing role in one film is not enough to be notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:53, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:48, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rod of Seven Parts

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This does not establish notability. TTN (talk) 19:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, the first nomination was "No Consensus", and the second was kept more upon the fact that it was a bad faith nomination, rather than notability of the subject being established. I really don't think this can be considered a case of a disruptive nomination now. 64.183.45.226 (talk) 20:07, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please do provide the sources then, because they certainly aren't in the article. And you do realize it has been just shy of six years since the last AfD, right? Another AfD would be suitable after sixth months of no improvement, let alone six years when standards have greatly changed. If that's the only source, it's hardly enough. TTN (talk) 20:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article has plenty of sources and I just provided another one, which the mystery IP editor confirms is pretty good. See also
    WP:BEFORE. Andrew D. (talk) 20:27, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • No, those sources are just fine as far as I'm concerned. If they are official then that makes them authoritative and so they are excellent sources. Notability is just a guideline and so is weak. I give more weight to strong core policies such as
    WP:PRESERVE. Andrew D. (talk) 20:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • While I have no view on this article right now, I agree with TTN: that is a non-argument. Primary sources are often appropriate to use for information purposes, but they cannot determine notability, and notability (whether "just" a guideline or not) is what's in question here. Notability can't be ignored on the grounds that there are lots of primary sources available. Josh Milburn (talk) 22:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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This article doesn't establish notability. TTN (talk) 19:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to List of Dungeons & Dragons deities where she is already included. A minor fictional deity that has no non-first party sources that I can find. I admit, its a bit confusing to look for them, as this is a super common name in various other fantasy settings, but I'm fairly confident I did a thorough enough job that, if there were any sources that would satisfy GNG, I would have seen them. 64.183.45.226 (talk) 20:18, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect or merge as above, unless third-party sources are forthcoming. Josh Milburn (talk) 22:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or merge per above. BOZ (talk) 06:44, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:48, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Andrej Kedveš

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Non-notable kickboxer. Does not meet

WP:KICK. Basically an auto-promotion. Peter Rehse (talk) 19:13, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 22:33, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Usman (Indian politician)

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I tried

G11 - Unambiguous advertising or promotion but I have not seen that version of article. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:37, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The references are many but they are in 1980s newspapers and books. Where to get them online to meet your reference criteria?? 13:46, 8 December 2016 (UTC) User:Adil Usman

Did he win any election? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:09, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Adil Usman 13:43, 9 December 2016 (UTC)No he did not won, but contested on INC seat. The only Congress candidate to secure around 15000 votes more than anyone ever in that constitutency since the Indian Independence. Also he was the Secretary of Uttar Pradesh Congress Committee of Uttar Pradesh and Working President of District Congress.Along with other contributions to the society, country and to the general masses of Lucknow.Adil Usman 13:43, 9 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adilusman009 (talkcontribs)

Adil Usman 17:47, 12 December 2016 (UTC)Mohammad Usman's father, Late Haji Hussain Ali was jailed with Jawahar Lal Nehru in Lucknow jail. His uncle and grandfather too were jailed, but his father was released on the basis of under age. The other were jailed for three months. After the Independence, Prime Minister Jawahar Lal Nehru visited Lucknow, near Firangi Mahal and awarded freedom fighter pension to all those people who were jailed in Lucknow Jail along with him. Mohammad's Usman uncle and grandfather didn't accept the pension and denied on the basis said by his grandfather " Hum Madre Vatan Ki Kamai Nahi Khaenge", and the PM was speechless on this note. But again I don't have any internet link to validate this.Adil Usman 17:47, 12 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adilusman009 (talkcontribs)

Thanks! Fails
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Why? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 19:05, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Having a key leadership position in a major national party would indicate notability. --Soman (talk) 20:28, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete
    WP:POLOUTCOMES is clear that routine coverage in elections (which I presume exists) is not sufficient for a candidate who has never been elected. I don't see any other coverage which indicates why the subject is notable. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:43, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Notability is definitely established as many of the !votes here have cited in their rationale. Many of the !votes against keeping the article not adequately address a reason for removal per the

non-admin closure) -- Dane talk 23:34, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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WP:GNG, no independent sources. No indication what makes him notables, as it is more a romantic version of a "man with a job". The Banner talk 11:42, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. (

non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:08, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Tadashi Miyazawa

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Solomon Muto is the subject's sole notable role. Subject has yet to garner enough notable roles for a standalone article at this time. Delete or redirect to

Solomon Muto. Sk8erPrince (talk) 12:04, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep I took a look at ja: wiki for this one, and saw a bunch of
    noteworthy roles that includes dubbing that have not been added to the English language article yet. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Japanese dubbing roles have been proven to be non-notable in these AFDs. As there has yet to be proof on how Japanese dubbing is important to the industry, I will continue to believe that it is non-notable. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 01:22, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Playing Starscream in three Transformers movies certainly quailifies as notable roles. Also KK is right about the other available sources.--Adam in MO Talk 01:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Where are said sources, and have you verified whether or not they help assert notability? --Sk8erPrince (talk) 02:11, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep Besides Sengoku Basara where he's in a bunch of articles, he's got a main character role in Sinbad film trilogy.
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 00:19, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All-Ukrainian Supreme Legal Council

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Non-notable organization. There is no indication that this is a notable law organization in Ukraine. Google searches in both English and Ukrainian result in no significant coverage. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:36, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Note: There is a Supreme Council of Justice (Вища рада юстиції) within the Ukrainian government. This present organization should not be confused with that governmental organization. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:42, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
All-Ukrainian Supreme Legal Council WikiDan61 The All-Ukrainian Supreme LEgal Council is a newly founded organization, so it's why it is Non-notable organization, yet. Our site was recently launched and it'is the reason Why Google searches are no significant coverage. Helga377
All-Ukrainian Supreme Legal Council is different from [Supreme Council of Justice]. [AUSLC] is private organization, the aim of which is to supporte lawyers, give legal advice, represent interests of individuals, to cooperate with state authorities on issues of jurisprudense an so on. [Supreme Council of Justice] is an advising judicial and control-revisionary government body in Ukraine. The Supreme Council of Justice of Ukraine advises on the appointment or release of certain judges, examines the cases of infringements, and executes disciplinary proceedings involving judges of the Supreme Court of Ukraine and other high specialized courts.
Wow. I really can't understand why this content might be disputed. The sources seem genuine. Please explain in further detail the negative judgement. Rebekahalnablack —Preceding undated comment added 00:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
About our organization in media, however it is a newly founded organization, currently I can't show you any significant coverage. But in future it will. Sincerely, Helga377, 15:44, 9 December 2016
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  • Delete Perhaps to the organization's dismay, but
    the policy on guessing future notability is plainly at work here. If, in time, this organization does generate coverage, some editor will likely add it. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:15, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. Appears to effectively be the bar society of Ukraine, formed in accordance with international best practice. Such organisations are generally notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:20, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment @Necrothesp: I could find no indication that this organization is recognized as the bar society for Ukraine. There is a Ukrainian Bar Association which is distinct from this organization. Neither organization appears to have the same position of actually licensing lawyers that a state bar association would have in the United States. The Ukraine Disciplinary Bar Commission appears to have the power to discipline lawyers, but it does not oversee their licensing. (See Law of Ukraine.) WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 00:00, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Not aware we were talking about the United States. Not everything has to be done as it is in the United States to be valid. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:23, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Necrothesp: Obviously we're not talking about the United States. I just used that as a reference. The point is that Ukraine has no official bar association, and this organization does not have any claim to that position, contradicting your assertion that this is the (or at least an) official bar association of Ukraine. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Not the official bar society., and the proponents of the article admit that it's newly founded. Not yet ready for an article. DGG ( talk ) 05:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - if this were the official bar society, my !vote would be different, but since it isn't than until it can meet
    WP:GNG it should be deleted. Onel5969 TT me 20:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete- No evidence of notability. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:25, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Absence of good evidence one way or another. DGG ( talk ) 05:56, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tu Maza Jeev

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I CSD nominated this per

reliable source but might be acceptable together with multiple other sources, of which there are none). bonadea contributions talk 17:58, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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@Bonadea: I strongly oppose the deletion of the same the reason for the same are
  • 1- TOI is the supreme newspaper of India and its sources are applicable for the courts of India than Wikipedia must too accept it
  • 2- The film may not be notable to many as it is a regional film and in the East indian language which is a regional language
  • 3- The verifiers of wikipedia lack to justify the problems in my article u may visit my draft and check its history if I make corrections the other verifier undos the same which is unfair
  • 4- U can find sources of the film on the world wide Web or in many sites which i believe doesn't lakhs notability

As i have been repetitively saying my intentions are to expand the reach of Wikipedia to everyone its violation is my own violation so I don't entertain the same --†Ïv㉫Ǹ G✿Ǹ$Aしv㉫$ 09:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Your good intentions are not in question even though it does look like you are ignoring the comments from multiple editors on your draft, but what you say above does not really address the main question: does the film meet
Wikipedia's reliable sources policy and as mentioned above, the city pages (as opposed to the main edition) of Times of India are usually considered to be less reliable in terms of showing notability. This is particularly true for entertainment news - and indeed, if you read this source it is rather clear that it is not particularly factual and unbiased - it reads like a rewrite of a press release from the movie makers. --bonadea contributions talk 11:42, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment It is of course possible to be disruptive when it comes to article creation, but the relevant issue here (as pointed out in the nomination) is notability. The article now shows borderline notability at best; we have no actual reliable sources showing that it is the first film in East Indian Marathi (the director claims that it is in newspaper interviews but secondary sources for that kind of claim would have been useful - I might be a bit picky about this because of my profession, but that's my opinion and interpretation of
    WP:RS anyway). The large audience numbers might be a stronger claim to notability; it would be good to get people who are more knowledgeable about Indian films to weigh in here. I also don't agree that the DNA India source is very good as far as coverage of the film goes - I had the same reaction when I first saw it, but then I realised that Tu Maza Jeev is only mentioned in passing. --bonadea contributions talk 15:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Replying to the comment above :- @Bonadea:I am extremely sure that you are not an Indian citizen, here I belong to the same community that this film is released and I have cited as many as available resources for the film u want I can send u the movie personally so that u can believe. India has 1652 languages and all have equal status according to the law and by commenting disputes u do against article 14 , 15 , 16, 21 , 25 of the Indian Constitution . By contesting u breach my Freedom of expression in India right. The film has been proved to exist as it has been on IMDB and I have seen many articles which have only one source and it has no deletion tag on it for eg Mother Teresa of Calcutta (film). My article has existence in real life and my community has witnessed it. The film had no objection on the Marathi Wikipedia and it was there created by an administrator there Mr:तू माझा जीव. My sincere request for you is please don't waste wikipedias time to tag it for deletion as it is baseless.As there is no mention that A local language film needs to prove notability --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०†ลℓк †๏ мэ 04:45, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pointing out that it would be helpful if we had a better source claiming that this particular film was the first one to be filmed in a specific dialect does is not in any way a comment on the existence of the dialect. I have looked it up, I know that it is an existing varity of Marathi (or, according to some, Konkani). The nationality of any of the people involved in a discussion is wholly irrelevant, and Wikipedia versions in different languages have different notability policies. Thanks, --bonadea contributions talk 08:40, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Bonadea: the main problem rises that Wikipedia doesn't has the article on East Indian language I have asked an administrator about the same if he permits I'll have an article on East Indian language so it will have no doubt in the dialect u want to know. For your reference u have a look at this article and let all your doubt gets clear and u too give a green signal for my article this Christmas season 😀👍

No, the existence of this article about a movie is completely unconnected to whether East Indian Marathi exists as a separate dialect. A well-sourced article about the dialect would be excellent - as I have already said I am fully aware of its existence, and I would be happy to assist you with better sources, since the one you linked to here does not meet
Wikipedia's policy on reliable sources and should not be used as a source in Wikipedia. But again that has nothing to do with the article Tu Maza Jeev. Finally, I don't decide whether any article stays or remains. The way Wikipedia deletion discussions work is like this: One editor decides to nominate an article for deletion, and provides their reasons. Other editors weigh in and agree or disagree, based on Wikipedia policy. The administrator who closes the discussion does so in accordance with the consensus in the discussion, without adding their own opinion. --bonadea contributions talk 13:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep clearly a notable subject and needed just a little more references which have been included.

It will be a net gain!

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The result was speedy keep. (

non-admin closure) Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 22:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Nicole Müller (linguist)

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All of the sources are primary. Can find sources in Google news search about the person. Mar11 (talk) 16:58, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I cannot see, as an academic, why you prefer secondary over primary sources? That seems crazy.... Is this the only thing you have against the article? It is very similar to many others on academics. Why go for delete when you can ask to have more secondary sources added?? (talk) 17:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I have now added secondary sources.Meiriongwril (talk) 18:03, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Mar11, I didn't understand the latter part of your rationale for deletion. If you can find sources in google news then bring them here, why are you opting for deletion discussion? I came across this article while reviewing new pages, I didn't take any action then because I was able to find 1156 citations in Google Scholars Hitro talk 18:11, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Onel5969 TT me 16:35, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Gentile

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Originally prodded with "Does not meet GNG, and junior volleyball players, by consensus at wp:volleyball, are not notable." Was de-prodded with the following rationale: "I believe that the page should remain, as he was a member of the Canadian junior national team, and was CIS Rookie of the Year. There are many college players in other sports who have wikipedia pages of their own, so it seems fair that volleyball players should be able as well."

WP:OSE isn't a valid rationale, and the reasons for the original prod still remain. Onel5969 TT me 15:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Skull Productions

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Can't see anything that suggests that this organisation is in any way notable. TheLongTone (talk) 15:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 00:49, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kohei Tezuka

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails

WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator on the grounds that Tezuka had played in the Japanese top flight this year. This assertion is not supported by reliable sources. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - According to Tezuka's Soccerway profile, he was named to the roster once in 2016, but remained on the bench for the entire match; he has no other senior football experience. Merely being named to the roster, even for the senior national team, is not enough to meet
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Water Sports (video game)

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No notability, no sources, and just about no content than two lead sentences. Neither company connected to the game is notable as well, and the currently remaining ashes resulted from an originally biased-written article.

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  • Delete. Article may barely skate by GNG as there are [10] and [11] reviews, but given the game's lack of any real impact and abysmal reviews as shovelware, I think it exists best as a data point in List of Wii games. --Odie5533 (talk) 14:24, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't looked to see if there are other sources, but "abysmal reviews" aren't a justification for deletion. Neither is "real impact". --Izno (talk) 15:04, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:57, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Memosnag

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Fails

WP:NSOFT. Sources are either stores, lists of apps, or a passing mention as an example of an app in a given category. PGWG (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:57, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ally_Burguieres

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Not notable Bls119 (talk) 13:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:57, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

An Hour with Bob

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Per source searches, this television show does not meet

WP:GNG. North America1000 13:55, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - unable to find any secondary sources to support notability. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:57, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Venturini

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Per several source searches, this television personality does not meet

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  • Delete non-notable local broadcaster.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:19, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 22:33, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Marketing strategy

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I think this article needs a dose of

WP:SYN and advertorial. It's been flagged as needing a complete rewrite for over seven and a half years. Guy (Help!) 13:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:58, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

England under-19 cricket team in India in 2016–17

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Delete. Team is not notable per

WP:NCRIC. Jack | talk page 13:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC) Jack | talk page 13:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gautam School

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No proof that the school is the best in the region and no sources. Domdeparis (talk) 13:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Its a secondary school. It exists. It is notable. Merge the two AfDs. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:09, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Seeing as offline sources and sources used in the article appear to work. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:59, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Golden Age of Nigerian cinema

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The leading reference for the term "golden age of Nigerian cinema" is Wikipedia. My friend Mr. Google turns up 15 hits for the text as quoted, mostly mirrors. Widening it slightly gives only one thing that might qualify as establishing this as a thing, this from Al Jazeera, which does not properly support the term. I have to conclude this is a neologism or

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Keep: First of all, this article is not a stand alone topic on its own, but rather a

spin-off for the article: Cinema of Nigeria. The "Golden Age" is a fluid term used to describe a specific period in Nigerian cinema history and it has been used in several books and journals to describe the said period: 1, 2, 3, 4, and oh, the aljazeera article was clearly talking about this same period, so it actually "properly supports" the term! While the term is not popular (which is expected, since it's about history), its usage for this article is indeed justified. If you feel the title misrepresents the topic (which I don't think it does), maybe you can suggest a better title or make a move request.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 01:32, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Many Google hits is not a sufficient criteria for notability. The goal of Wikipedia is to provide information and if reliable sources are available to this effect, then the article is good to go. Fact: There are some notable articles with encyclopedic content which have reliable sources that you may not find online. I only just realized that the very sources I added to validate the information in this article have already been listed here by the creator! Eruditescholar (talk) 04:17, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Keep: The sources cited in the article shows that the term is suitable for stand-alone inclusion. The term has been discussed in multiple independent reliable sources. Although it is not required to have a stand-alone page, I feel like Jamie Tubers' decision to create said page is sound to say the least.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 01:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:59, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Shah Alam Antlers F.C.

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Newly-formed football club fails

WP:ORGDEPTH. The only reference I found merely confirms their existence. - MrX 13:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 22:33, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Coverfox

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No notable company as per Wikipedia policy and borders on advertisement. TushiTalk To Me 06:34, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Week Detele Seems notable as per media. Got funded and possible new in Fintech domian. Might be kept for future. else delete is not a bad option for now. Writing of this article is definitely promotional and reads like an advertising or press. might be written by close associates. just a thought! Light2021 (talk) 18:35, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The Article does not cite any notable references from authoritative sources. Most of the links are for routine news articles from Economic Times/Indiatimes which are re-dressed press releases. Not a single article tells about the company and what it does and how it has impacted the industry it is in. This raises serious questions on The company's Notability.C. Harris (talk) 05:03, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Possible Keep Notability shouldn't be a matter of question here. Ample stories were found online - both about the company and about the company associates. I agree with Light2021, 'it is a possible new in the fintech domain and could be kept for future'. I actually found several more in the Fintech space - Bankbazaar and Policybazaar have been around for quite sometime. I must say, a lot can be done about their pages too. I'm honestly very excited to be a part of Wikipedia fraternity and make my contributions. I can help improve the writing for this one. The Recent activities section is a little promotional. I'm concerned how one could talk about this company's impact in the industry at a platform like Wikipedia. Such information is mostly editorial based and should be avoided as per Wikipedia writing guidelines. Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere.NidhiRana (talk) 08:36, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gautam School

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Fails

Wp:NHS but leak sources. ~ Junior5a (Talk) Cont 11:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Delete as per nom but not sure what leak sources means. Domdeparis (talk) 19:44, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Salting can be requested at

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Jack and Cocaine

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This is one of two film articles that was created in order to make

WP:NFILM
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This was originally a PROD by

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The result was speedy deleted by Cerebellum. (non-admin closure)UY Scuti Talk 19:20, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix Games B.V.

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Non-notable video game publisher with practically no coverage from reputable news outlets apart from an article or two by Games Asylum. Any mention of it is often on user-edited wikis, blogs or sites which are often about the notoriety they earned amongst the gaming community, but even then the company is largely overlooked by the likes of Kotaku due to their low-profile business model. Blake Gripling (talk) 08:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete G4 applied Clear rounding of the many deletion decisions using the "B.V." abbreviation under the title
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The result was keep. (

non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:05, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Heliconia (disambiguation)

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Without the

primary topic and one other potentially ambiguous article. The hatnote already at the primary topic takes care of the disambiguation admirably; this page is not needed. — Gorthian (talk) 05:03, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Comment )I would say the hatnote would need to go to the municipality and to the very similar Helliconia. Boleyn (talk) 10:02, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was deleted in accordance with

WP:CSD#G4 and salted. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Kash Hovey

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This article was deleted very recently on the grounds of lack of notability. The current version of the article still does not show notability. Kash Hovey has had minor roles in several movies and a TV show, and his only major role is in an indie film that has gone virtually unnoticed by the media, and is itself currently proposed for deletion. In terms of sourcing, nearly all sources are either IMDB or some type of trivial mention. The most substantial source in the article is one interview he gave to The LA Fashion. Neither the general notability guideline nor the actor notability guideline have been met. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:56, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was deleted. as a copyvio. (

non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:03, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Amit Praskash Mishra

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Does not meet WP:Notability. JustBerry (talk) 03:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:28, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stockland Traralgon

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Unremarkable shopping centre in a city with a population of only 25,000. IgnorantArmies (talk) 03:47, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Non-notable shopping mall. Fails
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  • Keep. Unanimously kept last time around with listed sources that never made it into the article. Needs cleanup instead. The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:09, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete even the last AfD called it incidential mentions. The coverage is primarily routine. At 50 odd shops it's very small by WP standards. LibStar (talk) 13:15, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per The Drover's Wife. --doncram 01:02, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
not a genuine !vote as per
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The result was no consensus. And I suggest opening an RFC on the notability of secondary schools; there has previously been a consensus that they are notable, so it's probably not best to re-hash the discussion on individual AfD pages but to centralise it. Black Kite (talk) 00:51, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bal Vikash Secondary School

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Subject lacks notability and coverage in reliable sources. Meatsgains (talk) 03:41, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep as I've been watching this, and the one establishment of schools we've made is that we find all notable if they actually exist, although I will say sourcing has actually been hard to find here, its existence is all we still need for an article. SwisterTwister talk 23:31, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't necessarily agree with that consensus, SwisterTwister, and as noted above it hasn't necessarily been holding lately, but can I ask what independent sources verify this school's existence? Cordless Larry (talk) 23:38, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Here is an independent source that mentions it and establishes its existence as a school [12]. Not a great source, but existence is established by an independent NGO. Again, as expressed below, English-language internet sources for high schools in South Asia are going to be more difficult to come by, but you generally can determine through some NGOs whether a school exists. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:41, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, TonyBallioni. My response to that source is, what can we actually say in a Wikipedia article based on that source? "Bal Vikash Secondary School is a school in Nepal" is about it, I think, and I don't think that makes for a worthwhile article, so my view remains that we should delete pending more and more detailed sources being found. Otherwise, like the kept Gajol Haji Nakoo Muhammad High School, the page will just attract the addition of unsourced material, generating work for editors to keep it in a sourced but minimal and not particularly helpful state. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:10, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the article currently states that the language of instruction is English. If that is correct, then I am surprised that we can't find more English-language sources about the school. Maybe it's wrong? Cordless Larry (talk) 09:03, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the response Cordless Larry. If you look at the concerns at the one AfD that resulted in deletion, some of the !votes were based off of the fact that editors thought you couldn't prove the school exists. That's not the case with this article. Historically, we have only required that a secondary school be proved to exist for it to be deemed notable as SwisterTwister and I have pointed out. Re: the English language point: many South Asian schools do have English as the medium of instruction (in the case of India, English is even an official language. Even with that, because the percentage of the population that speaks English is relatively small, you still have trouble finding online English sources like you could find for a US high school. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:13, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep it is a secondary school. It exists. It is notable. If you want to challenge that consensus, start an RfC. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:01, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Tatters is a strong word here. There is not a consensus that
WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES which is why a RfC would be a better place to deal with it than in a series of AfDs as expressed by the closer in one of the no consensus closes. As I expressed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Government Centennial Model High School, Battagram, I think a lot of the issues with these schools is that foreign secondary schools are less likely to have English-language sources easily accessible online, which is part of the English Wikipedia's intrinsic bias since it is the English Wikipedia. The same amount of sources that exist for Anglophone country secondary schools likely exist, and could be found with digging. Per the existing consensus on secondary schools, I am willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to schools in non-English-speaking countries that we give to schools in English-speaking countries. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:25, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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It is indeed a bias to believe that schools are notable as soon as you can prove that they exist. The Banner talk 11:05, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:01, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anas al-Basha

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Seems to be a case of

WP:ONEEVENT. Meatsgains (talk) 03:31, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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I believe that to be the case, and since it won't be possible to merge it with other articles documenting the events (such as Aleppo offensive (November–December 2016)), it should be deleted. Regards, VB00 (talk) 18:43, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

African American Evolution in media

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One source which is unrelated. I found this on uncategorizedpages. (Speaking of uncategorizedpages, why do we need the uncategorized tag when there's already a special page?) KATMAKROFAN (talk) 02:43, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Shannon Ryan

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Delete: non-notable New Zealand TV/radio presenter. Quis separabit? 02:22, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Because she does not show global notability guidelines, not a notable person, neither Shiesmine (talk) 15:00, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails GNG and SIGCOV. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 02:22, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Non-notable; fails

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