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The article is written in British English and the hyphenated form is still (I believe) more normal there. We tend to retain hyphens more than US writers. In US English, the hyphenated form has acquired negative connotations among orgs such as ADL in recent years. Either way it refers to irrational prejudice against Jews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pincrete (talk • contribs) 06:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)<diff>[reply]
"Nazi Party" as a derogatory word
I have removed content sourced to this article, where it states that at the time, the term "Nazi" was considered derogatory, because there's a German word "Naczi", "which was an insulting term for a 'foolish clumsy person'". I don't think we should mention that it was considered derogatory, because while it's an interesting bit of trivia, it's too much detail for an article about Hitler. This article is already too long, so including off-topic details is not a good idea in my opinion. The term is no longer considered derogatory as far as I am aware, and explaining why they found it to be so is way off-topic. Perhaps consider including it at Nazi Party instead? Discussion welcome. — Diannaa (talk) 13:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also there is an alternative, which is it was the German post officer who coined the term. Slatersteven (talk) 13:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's already in Nazi_Party#Name so I thought why not add it here. The section sounded as if they named themselves "Nazi", but it fact they despised of it. But the way it is now seems good. It's a good example of history being written by the victors. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 14:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't need or benefit being here IMO. We cannot include here every snippet about AH, the party, Germany at the time etc. This article is about the man himself and as Diannaa says, it's already over long.Pincrete (talk) 19:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it may be worth mentioning briefly, the article says "now known as the 'Nazi Party'". "Nazi" was a term used contemporaneously with "NSDAP", but was pejorative nickname never used by the party itself. The previous content may have been excessive, but the current one misrepresents it. Durchbruchmüller (talk) 21:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It may be worth saying that this was/is informal, but so many colloquial terms for groups were originally pejorative, or at least mocking. Tories, Puritans etc. The term has become the standard descriptor for the party and regime and is no longer pejorative, except to the degree that AH and the party have a bad reputation!Pincrete (talk) 05:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no such word in German. --Hob Gadling (talk) 11:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Frank's statements about Alois Hitler
"Nazi official Hans Frank suggested that Alois's mother had been employed as a housekeeper by a Jewish family in Graz."
This is wrong. Frank did not suggest this. He described it as the accussation which he investigated for Hitler. Frank himself said that he did not believe it to be true, and that he did not find any support for this. The article should be corrected. 47.156.172.168 (talk) 23:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Hitler and the Nazi regime were also responsible for the deliberate killing of an estimated 19.3 million civilians and prisoners of war. In addition, 28.7 million soldiers and civilians died as a result of military action in the European theatre."
Two words "In addition" seem to be typo error, because if we add 10 million Chinese killed besides millions of Japanese, Americans and other Asians and Africans, total killed in WW2 will be around 70 million, but most of the sources say 50 millions. Hence there is nearly 20 million discrepancy. Therefore, the above segment should be thus:-
"Hitler and the Nazi regime were also responsible for the deliberate killing of an estimated 19.3 million civilians and prisoners of war. 28.7 million soldiers and civilians (which includes 19.3 million civilians and prisoners of war, besides 9.4 millions soldiers in Europe) died as a result of military action in the European theatre."
VJha (talk) 02:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC) (Vinay Jha)[reply]
VJha, the Our WWII deaths article puts total deaths estimates as ranging between 70 and 85 million, slightly over 2/3rds civilian, so the wording is probably correct. I don't know much about WWII figures, but establishing casualty totals in conflicts is notoriously problematic, inc for WWII. Pincrete (talk) 05:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We need to be very careful and precise about the wording about casualties in a part of World War II. For example, my uncle was in the US Army Air Corps and was killed when his bomber was shot down over Italy in 1943. He clearly died in the European theater. On the other hand, my wife's uncle, a US Army private, spent 2-1/2 years in a Japanese POW camp before perishing in the Arisan Maru debacle, when a US submarine torpedoed a Japanese prison ship, resulting in the deaths of 1772 prisoners. That was not the European theater. Cullen328 (talk) 06:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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