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Demi has expressed that they only use she/her because of how often they get misgendered. There is a clear preference for using they/them, so Wikipedia should respect that instead of showing their clear bias again trans and non binary people. Ash (talk) 14:54, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I personally thought the discussion that came to the consensus of using she/her again treated the situation as more open-shut than it was, but it was discussed and the consensus was to use she/her; there's an archived thread to that effect. I don't think there's anything that says the topic couldn't be revisited (i.e. raising new context, identifying issues with how the existing consensus was reached, or just trying to see if consensus would change), but a lot of people who seem like they'd be interested in raising discussion to change pronouns to they/them (on several articles, not just this one) just show up, demand the change (with or without uncivil comments on the side), and don't seem to be seeking real discussion. Which means, ultimately, that the consensus doesn't change for one reason or another. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Weirdarpeggi: According to Lovato's Instagram bio their pronouns are they/them/she/her. Although to me this implies a partial preference for one over the other (especially in contrast to the more typical she/they), that is my own original research. Without Lovato explicitly saying so, we have no way of knowing which she would rather have used in an encyclopedia article (assuming that said encyclopedia insisted on only using one set of pronouns the entire time).
I'd personally be in favor of changing the article to use they/them pronouns. Some past discussions seemed to (deliberately?) misinterpret Lovato "adopting she/her pronouns again" as them exclusively using such, or re-identifying as cisgender, which are obviously incorrect. However, both sets are at least acceptable (i.e. we are not misgendering them by using she/her pronouns). The (mostly arbitrary) decision to use one over the other, is not indicative of a site-wide anti-trans bias on Wikipedia. Our peanut gallery of reactionaries would probably tell you quite the opposite.
I constantly had to educate people and explain why I identified with those pronouns. It was absolutely exhausting. And that is one of the reasons that have led me to also feel comfortable with the feminine pronoun,” Lovato explained in the interview, translated from Spanish. “I just got tired. But for that very reason I know that it is important to continue spreading the word.”
In the Artistry - Voice section, Demi is quoted as a mezzo-soprano. Given her range and the overall timbre and tone of her voice, Demi is a soprano, not a mezzo. She might be classified as a full lyric soprano. 186.154.39.56 (talk) 03:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done.
Reliable sources must be provided to support the proposed changes. EvergreenFir(talk) 03:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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