User talk:Finnusertop/Archive/2020

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

The article for FINE doesn't seem to apply to the genetics wiki project. I'm a bit new so perhaps a missing something. What's the connection? Thanks! Astropiloto (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Astropiloto: you are, of course, correct. I probably had a few too many tabs open and got it mixed up with some other topic. I've tagged it with the correct WikiProject Trade. Thanks for pointing this out to me. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:28, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

No problem! Glad I could help. Astropiloto (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Dear Finnusertop, back in 2018, you uploaded a non-free photo of Sorabji to File:Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji.jpg, which is justified by several NFCC. I intend to take the Sorabji article to FA status this year, but the relative scarcity of free images of Sorabji and people close to him may be a major obstacle in achieving that. One person whose picture I would like to include in the article is that of Sorabji's companion Reginald Norman Best, with whom he lived for several decades. The rationale would be the same as for the Sorabji photo, and if anything, the case would be even stronger: I'm aware only of a grand total of two of photos of Best, which were taken by the same photographer (Joan Muspratt) who took the photo of Sorabji in the lead, and Best died a couple months before Sorabji. The photos have been published on a Facebook page dedicated to Sorabji (see [1] and [2]), but I'm not sure if being reproduced "merely" on Facebook would disqualify them from being used. At least the photo with a yellow-ish background (from the first Facebook link) has been reproduced in a PhD dissertation on Sorabji's life (see p. 330 [numbered 329 at the bottom of the page] in the PDF file at https://search.proquest.com/docview/304711487). Would you be able to help with this case? I have very limited experience with this area of Wikipedia and I entrust it to your better judgment and expertise. Many thanks for your time and assistance. Toccata quarta (talk) 22:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

WP:FFD

.

As for the images by Muspratt (both of Sorabji and of Best): Muspratt seems to have died in 1957, which means that all photographs by her will enter the public domain in 2027. Until then, we're stuck with the present situation (that the Sorabji is okay to use in the article but the Best one is not). I don't think the Facebook thing would have maked a difference. But my understanding is that the lack of addditional images should not negatively affect any bid for an FA article since FAs only have to have images "where appropriate" (the Good Article criteria are a bit more clear on this, saying images are called for "when possible"). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Finnusertop, thank you for the information (and apologies for answering just now; I have been rather busy these past few days). Regarding the copyright for Muspratt's photos, I managed to obtain permission to use her photos years ago, but for various reasons I did not proceed further with it and got confirmation recently that the copyright heir would have to either upload the photos to Wikipedia/Commons themselves or confirm their approval via email to someone high up in the WMF hierarchy. And so it continues... Thank you again. Toccata quarta (talk) 16:54, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes,

WP:OTRS). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs

) 18:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Finnusertop, it's me again. I have been gathering information/permissions for using Sorabji-related images on WP, and managed to get approval for two excerpts from one edition (from both Alistair Hinton, the composer's residual legatee, and the editor who created the edition). What would be the easiest way to proceed from here on? Have both send their approvals via email, with one of them uploading the excerpts? Obviously one of the emails will arrive earlier, so I hope there is no issue with "Speedy Deletion" for images. To what email do you recommend they send the approvals? Will it be better to put them on Commons or WP? Thank you for your guidance here. Toccata quarta (talk) 05:07, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

@Toccata quarta: thanks for coming back. It's best if the photo(s) are first uploaded on Commons (it does not matter who does this if permission is forthcoming, so it could be you for example). The next step is to tag the image with Template:OTRS pending (please use to code {{subst:OP}} to do so). This will achieve exactly what you asked, i.e. prevent the image from being speedy deleted when we're still waiting for the permissions to arrive (you will have 37 days). Next, instruct the heir(s) to send the permission email. It's very important that you give them the exact URL of the file(s) you just uploaded to be included in the email. Likewise, make them write the exact license you chose for the upload (the default, which is "CC BY-SA 4.0", should be fine). They should use the form outlined here: Commons:Email templates. That should be it. If there is still doubts after this process, they might need to send additional permissions or proof that they are the heirs. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:56, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Finnusertop, thank you once again for the information. I uploaded the files to Commons and they are now "split" between Commons and Wikipedia (see [3], [4] and [5]). Alistair Hinton (Sorabji's residual legatee) and Abel Sánchez-Aguilera (a Sorabji editor and performer) have both provided their permissions to Commons via email, but with the exception of the Organ Symphony No. 3 excerpt (for which only Hinton's approval is necessary), neither of them qualifies as the "holder of the full and exclusive copyright". Both used the email template from Commons:Email templates, which might be causing some confusion, judging by the information I have received from Hinton and Sánchez-Aguilera. The "same" query is being handled by two different individuals, and I'm not sure if they are in touch with each other on the matter (or if that is even allowed). Is there anything I can do to clarify the situation? The files (see the aforementioned links) contain information on who owns the copyrights to what. Thank you. Toccata quarta (talk) 14:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

@Toccata quarta: By the same query being handled by two different people you meant the people you asked to email permissions or the OTRS volunteers who'll review them? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 09:39, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I meant the OTRS volunteers who have received the permissions via email. Toccata quarta (talk) 12:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@Toccata quarta: File:Sorabji, Piano Symphony No. 1 (Tantrik), edition, page 96.png and File:Sorabji, Organ Symphony No. 3 manuscript, page 124.jpg have not been taken up by a reviewer yet. Those OTRS tickets (the emails) don't have a number. File:Sorabji, Piano Symphony No. 1 (Tantrik), edition, page 244.png does have a number. If you think the information sent regarding the last file will also help clearing the rights for the first two, you can copy and paste the "OTRS received" template onto those pages. You can repeat this process for the other two files when those OTRS emails have actually been taken up. That's how I'd link those permissions. And yes, it is allowed. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the information, Finnusertop. I procrastinated a bit with this issue (like I usually do), but in the end, it was resolved smoothly and all three uploads are now tagged as having the requisite permissions. If I may bother you further (though I hope to give you a break sooner than later), there is a photo of Sorabji's father here. The copyright is given on the very photo as "Maull & Fox : 187A Piccadilly, London (1879-85)", for which a few details are given here. I found just a handful of photos from this source on Commons (e.g. File:Markham_Le_Fer_Taylor.jpg), though this may simply indicate that the collection includes mostly images of non-notable individuals. Would you say the photo of Sorabji's father would be PD? For what it's worth, he was born in 1863 and died in 1932, and the photo was taken sometime in the 1890s. Many thanks. Toccata quarta (talk) 11:39, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello Finnusertop, I hope you're doing well. As mentioned earlier in this conversation, I have managed to contact the copyright holder for Joan Muspratt's photos and have resumed correspondence with them recently. Following their confirmation, I have uploaded three of Muspratt's photos to Commons, tagged them with the OTRS template and asked the copyright holder to provide their confirmation via the official channels. One of the files I've uploaded (File:Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji in 1945 (b).jpg) is a high-resolution version of File:Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji.jpg. Once the OTRS volunteers have processed the email granting the permission for those images to be used, is there some process as to what happens to the older file, which was uploaded on the basis of NFCC criteria? Or can it stay, as it is a version of a photo for which permissions have been (will be) granted and confirmed? Thank you for the information. Toccata quarta (talk) 16:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I am so sorry, Toccata quarta, I seem to have missed your message (I did get a notification but I must have gotten distracted). Anyway, the answer is simple: once you are confident enough that the Commons file will stick, please go ahead and replace the NFC file in the article with it. This will leave the NFC file "orphaned" (no longer used in any articles). There is a bot that will go through these and delete them without you having to take any action. Once again, sorry for the belated reply. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. The process around the Muspratt photos at Commons took forever to finalize, but at last they are included in the Sorabji article. I considered adding {{

Di-orphaned fair use}} to the NFCC file, but the guidelines around its usage are a bit messy and I will leave it to the bot to sort things out. Cheers. Toccata quarta (talk

) 16:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:UC-Berkeley-School-of-Public-Health-logo.png

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 02:48, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

June

June

Vespro della Beata Vergine

Thank you for improving articles in June. I can proudly present a FA, quite a gift after a year without, and a FL is in the making, comments welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you in July

July

pale globe-thistle above the Rhine

Thank you for improving articles in July! Now a

FTN is open. --Gerda Arendt (talk

) 21:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Seabee

I am curious. You added "rps=63" to a very long article tag. What did adding rps=63 do for the article? Thank you.Mcb133aco (talk) 18:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)mcb133aco Mcb133aco (talk) 18:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

correction 62 Mcb133aco (talk) 18:07, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

here; a readable prose size of 60 or more means that the article probably should be split or otherwise condensed. Adding the "rps" number does nothing except for alter the tag at the top of the article to read "This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably. The readable prose size is 62 kilobytes." – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs

) 18:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I would not have troubled you if I even had an idea what to Google. The 62 is an impossible number to reduce to so I will end my reduction effort. That was most enlightening to learn. Thank you again.Mcb133aco (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)mcb133aco Mcb133aco (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:National Institute for Health and Welfare (Finland) logo.png

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 19:26, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

What is your issue with CC-BY-SA-4.0?

Hi! In this edit you imply that the CC-BY-SA-4.0 licence is incompatible with Wikipedia. Can you explain the issue here? That licence is free content. I'm in touch with the owners of the original text and I don't think relicensing will be a problem if necessary. I've looked at Wikipedia:Copyrights#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others and I don't see anything there forbidding text with this licence. I also don't see on my Talk page any notification about this problem. Thanks in advance for any help, MartinPoulter (talk) 13:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC) Ah, I've followed the link you posted which I should have done first of all. I've learned something new today! I'll get the licence changed to CC-BY-SA 3.0 on the source site. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:59, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Sure, MartinPoulter. That should solve the problem. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:20, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Conte (literature)

I nominated the article for DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/Conte (literature). I would also be interested in better hook suggestions if you have them. SL93 (talk) 14:08, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Wow, thanks SL93! The hook you drafted is fine. It captures the two major characteristics of the conte: subject matter and length. I'll watch the nom page to see how it goes. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:15, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

August

August

Sunflowers in Walsdorf

Thank you for improving articles in August! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

A first for me today: a featured list (= a featured topic in this case) on the Main page, see Wikipedia:Main Page history/2020 August 21, an initiative by Aza24 in memory of Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Le Sacre du printemps. --Gerda Arendt (talk

) 13:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Conte (literature)

On 23 August 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Conte (literature), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that conte, a literary genre which includes fairy tales and philosophical stories, became merged with the short story in the 1800s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Conte (literature). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Conte (literature)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

American Board

I removed the CopyVio Template from American Board of Commissioners for Foreign Missions, since the text that seems to have been the problem was removed 1 February 2007 Here by Brian0324 I explained on the talk page. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood!

Cheers in any case.ch (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:American Academy of Dermatology.svg

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 02:27, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Mansudae Television logo.jpg

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 03:14, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lima Liturgy

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article

criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Whiteguru -- Whiteguru (talk

) 08:42, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

• The review is completed after examining notes, references and works cited. While I have given this a pass, I hold off doing the finalisation of this GA, awaiting your attendance to the review comments about the Lead. Thanking you. -- Whiteguru (talk) 00:37, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

September

September

Dahlias in Walsdorf

Thank you for improving articles in September! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Kim Yong-chun.jpg

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 02:37, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for September 23

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Propaganda in China, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Lady Liberty.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 07:34, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lima Liturgy

The article Lima Liturgy you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lima Liturgy for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Whiteguru -- Whiteguru (talk) 21:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Dona nobis pacem

Thank you for article work! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Featured article review for Restoration Spectacular

I have nominated

featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Beland (talk

) 00:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji.jpg

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:IMImobile logo.svg

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 18:38, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

well china article uses Marxist–Leninist and socialist, so why should north korea not use Juche and socialist?

Unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party socialist republic in china country infobox, why should north korea not use juche and socialist in its? Gooduserdude (talk) 09:18, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@Gooduserdude: we should have this conversation at Talk:North Korea#Government description so that other editors interested in that article may follow it. I've relayed your comment there. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:06, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Coat of arms of Westarctica.jpg

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 03:28, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

November

November

Thank you for article work in November! Look today at BB music, a little crusade of mine ;) - his birthday on St Cecilia's day, patron saint of music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message

2020 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 7 December 2020. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. The topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2020 election, please review NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk ) 02:34, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Christian Values Party logo.png

Thanks for uploading

claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media

).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 03:24, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Change requests on Neste article

Hi there! As you've earlier edited Neste I was wondering if you could take a look about the proposals I made on the Talk page. Cheers and have a nice December! Jjanhone (talk) 10:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Ri Tae-jun

Hello, Finnusertop. It has been over six months since you last edited the

Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ri Tae-jun

".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia

mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission

and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at

this link

. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:30, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Westminster Presbyterian Church in the United States

I noticed you edited this page. Unlike when I contributed to the (archived) "delete" discussion in 2006, I can see no evidence that this denomination has any meaningful existence any more. Perhaps Brian Schwertley preaches to some people in Prosper, Texas (SermonAudio shows new audio sermons by him every week, but gives no street address for church services), but WPCUS certainly does not seem to be a micro-denomination with several locations across North America, like it was 15 years ago. I have not made any enquiries beyond Google searches, but the websites listed on Wikipedia are dead. --PeterR2 (talk) 11:00, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

WP:AFD. I might not be personally interested in nominating or participating. You see, I stumbled upon that article via the random articles function, so I don't really know anything about it. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs

) 15:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.