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fear of flying

Fear of flying is not something that is unique or sanonomous with the United states or american people. my mother has a fear of flying and if you check my IP you'll be able to tell that i'm not american. the reason why i changed "businessperson" to "business person" also is because that is more widely excepted than "businessperson"(American version) and if let's say 14 countries choose "business person" over the american way, and the article is about a phobia that isn't unique to the US then maybe have the more widely excepted version. my nutralization is not on things like artists, more like things such as phobias, stars and planets, and alien life theories. You can say i'm nutralizing the articles, but you also can say that i'm fixing it so it is the more widely used version, even if it's not the American version. american people and things directly related to US and such i understand, but things like let's say Jupiter, or Crop Circles, or bees are not senonimus to the US, so as such, if the US term is not the widely used one then i'm going to find the more widely used one if i do not know it, and change it to the more widely used one. that's what my mission is, and i still haven't heard from Krisetn, Kirsty, or Jessica yet on this matter. Those three people may stop my mission, however, if you have advice on how i can go about it the right way, and maybe some articles to look at, then be my guest. i'm not going to totally change the style of english, i'm mearly going to change it to the more widely used version this way it's more likely that a wider variety of people will understand it, ok? happy hunger games, and may the odds be ever in your favor. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 03:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

You make a good point about the Fear of flying article. Instead of making the change for a third time, I suggest you discuss it at Talk:Fear of flying per Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

re: business person

this time on businessperson i only added another varient to it. ("Also business person, businessman...) so don't revert it. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 05:40, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree with your change to the Businessperson article. I did, however, change your addition from Business person to business person. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. as a blind person i'm not too good at telling which case it is in, so thank you. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 07:15, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

business person

Please do not use american versions of the word in Wikipedia as it is not an america only site. besides, my english teacher, who has been teaching sinse 1969 says that it isn't a compound word anyway, and she's right. i've only seen americans do that, simply for laziness's sake. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 22:30, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Please note that the Wikipedia article is titled "Businessperson", and the Wikitionary article is businessperson. A quick Google search for "businessperson" as one word returns results in The American Heritage Dictionary [1], Dictionary.com [2], the Merriam-Webster Dictionary [3], and reliable sources such as Fortune/CNN [4]. While "businessperson" is correct in American English, it may not be used in other varieties of English.
Wikipedia's
Manual of style advises "An article should not be edited or renamed simply to switch from one valid use of English to another." The Fear of flying
article appears to me to be written in American English - note the lead emphasizes "airplane" over "aeroplane".
It's fine to have discussions and even disagreements about articles, but please remember to be
civil, even in your edit summaries. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:44, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

How is it though that business person is turned into a compound word in US, but not in UK, Canada and other such places? i mean if i write "businessperson" at all and my english teacher says it, she docks major marks and tells me "There is no such thing as a businessperson, unless you are in the united states. only in the US is it exceptable to spell it like that, this is canada, so you must always spell it as "business person. ) note that she is the one who calls Americans lazy at english, not me. but I may agree with that to some point but saying you are lazy at english si not being uncivil, saying "Americans are so god damn shitty at english" is being uncivil, and is unacceptable. also let's not americanize wikipedia, i'm against that completely, as not everyone knows american english, so i think that we should try to nutralize wikipedia with some american english and some non-american english. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 01:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

no hate

note that i say that we should not americanize wikipedia because i feel that not everyone is going to either understand or care for american english. i do not mean that in an anti-american way. my friend is american, and he's awesome, and the US has many things i like and some very nice people. i just feel that we need to nutralize wikipedia, rather than americanize it. I am going to find some articles that seem too american and nutralize them, unless of corse Either of These people asks me not to. note that i chose two non-americans in order to prevent bias. again i mean nothing against US (USA is cool), i am just acting on my mission to nutralize wikipedia, ok? i've got some ideas but i'm currently trying to figure out how to tackle them. so do not take it the wrong way, i'm not going to d-americanize it, i'm mearly wishing to make articles use both american and british english, i don't care what the subject is about. and i've never heard of an aeroplane. 199.101.61.190 (talk) 01:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Also to prove i'm not anti american, i'll ad a Sertain someone who's the best to the list of the three people i look up to to convince me not to go about my mission of making wikipedia less american and more nutral than it currently is, so again, these are The Three chosen ones to stop me. thanks.199.101.61.190 (talk) 01:40, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

If an English teacher in the US had a student who used "business person", the teacher may also dock major marks and encourage the American student to use American English. What may be correct in one country is not in another. Calling Americans "lazy" is not civil, even if you're just repeating what your English teacher told you. The English Wikipedia prefers no major national variety of the language over any other. Please don't waste your valuable time changing articles from one variety of English to another - there are so many other ways you could provide meaningful contributions to Wikipedia. I've added a reminder to your talk page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Wait, no, please don't tell me you are kristen schall, no, (cringes and cowers into chair) you aren't kristen schall, please tell me you are not kirsty hawkshaw either, nor jessie j. please? please! 199.101.61.190 (talk) 03:46, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

No, I'm not any of those people. GoingBatty (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Good, i'd be freaked out if you were. lol (and i don't mean that in a bad way) 199.101.61.190 (talk) 06:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Nina's "My Sweet Lord"

Hi GoingBatty, hope you're well. I notice you removed the Nina Simone songs cat from "My Sweet Lord", so I thought I'd mention that she did indeed cover the song, along with Harrison's "Isn't It a Pity", on a 1972 album. Both are highly rated covers. Just so you know – because the other song article still carries the category. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 16:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi JG66! As a result of
Wikipedia:BOTREQ#WikiProject tagging request: WP:JAZZ, Talk:My Sweet Lord was tagged with {{WikiProject Jazz}} in this edit. Since this article is on my watchlist, I reverted the talk page change and then removed Category:Nina Simone songs from the article. Although the same change happened on Talk:Isn't It a Pity
, that's not on my watchlist, so I didn't notice the WikiProject tagging.
I'm not disputing that Nina Simone covered "My Sweet Lord". However, the text on My Sweet Lord#Cover versions didn't state that her version was more highly rated than others.
What's the relevant guideline for categorizing songs based on who covers them? I agree with Category:George Harrison songs and Category:Billy Preston songs since they released a version as a single. In addition to Category:Nina Simone songs, we could also add Category:Johnny Mathis songs, Category:Boy George songs, Category:Megadeth songs, Category:Elton John songs, and dozens more. Where's the appropriate place to draw the line? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Oh boy, I thought it was just a nice, simple situation! I see your point, GB, now that you mention those other artists' songs categories. I suppose all those cats should be in the article, to be honest. Put it this way, if I was working on Boy George, Johnny Mathis etc wikipedia pages, I'd notice the omission on the artist's songs page and be looking to complete the list. (That's the case with George Harrison, I think, where one can see Bye Bye, Love, True Love, If Not for You, Got My Mind Set and the other rare covers he recorded.) Elton, Sting and others only performed the song live so those (unreleased) versions don't warrant Category:... songs treatment, of course. Nina's MSL and Pity are notable covers, for sure. (I'd hope the Emergency Ward! article might make that clear; you're right that there's no comment reflecting this in the MSL article, although I made a point of naming Nina early in the lead-in's brief list of artists who have covered the song. Much more about Nina's reading of Pity in that article, because Allmusic had plenty to say about it, and George comments on the Simone version in his autobiography.) So my thinking would be that if an artist made an officially released recording of a song, it should be linked to their Category:... songs page if they have one. That would make for one heck of a cat-heavy article for the likes of Something, Yesterday, etc, but I'd imagine that only artists of some standing have a songs cat page. I don't know, this issue is obviously far more wide-ranging than I'd thought(!). Personally, my focus is on the artist: a songs cat page should be as complete as possible, so I'd assume that a contributor who's looking to improve a particular artist's wiki pages and give a thorough picture of their work (be it Mathis, Andy Williams, Julio Inglesias, Nina Simone, Richie Havens or any other artist of considerable notability), I'd assume that they would add the category to the relevant song pages. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 04:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
You know much more about Simone's cover, so if you want to revert my category removal, I won't argue with you. However, the next step after adding of all these categories is then people adding the article to Wikiproject Jazz, Wikiproject Heavy Metal, Wikiproject Country Music, Wikiproject 80s music, etc. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 04:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
That's right – the repercussions! It seems to me the Nina Simone cover should be acknowledged; I'm not that knowledgeable about her music, but I've heard enough to know she did quite a few covers and they're always, well, brilliant (eg "Here Comes the Sun"). Let's just say that as a huge George Harrison fan, I'd be delighted to work on a page that carries a Category:Nina Simone songs – less so Category:Megadeth songs, you know? ... Cheers, GoingBatty. JG66 (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Aha! I believe that
WP:SONGCOVER is what I was looking for. It appears that there are many cover versions listed in the article that are not notable and should be removed. As of now, the article doesn't indicate to me that Simone's version meets these notability requirements. However, if her cover is notable, then Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs#Categories indicates that the article should be included in Category:Nina Simone songs. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

thank you

Thank you for fixing my typo on List of New York City Ballet 2011 repertory! — Robert Greer (talk) 00:40, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure! I've just made a few more minor changes to the article. GoingBatty (talk) 00:51, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

A question about notability and page relevance

I noticed that you did some editing on the page for Genesee_Scientific. In a lot of ways this page reads like a biased commercial for a small company that is one of many that sells supplies to the scientific community. I'm curious if this page should be deleted, or if other small biotech supply and manufacturing companies should have pages added. What is your opinion of this page and what criteria should be used to accept new company pages or delete old ones? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewPapp (talkcontribs) 12:52, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Andrew! I reviewed my edits to this article, and it seems that at the time I was simply cleaning up some categories on many articles. The guideline you're looking for is Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). You may wish to tag the article with {{notability|companies}} and/or {{advert}}, and/or discuss the issues on Talk:Genesee Scientific. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 14:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Banglapedia dead link

Hi, I've taken the liberty of reverting your "dead link" tag on the Banglapedia link on Banglapedia. This is because over the course of several months I've seen that site go up and down like a yo-yo, and I believe that the Asiatic Society has no plans to move it again or take it down. Perhaps it will be down for the weekend, but it is such a useful source of information for Bangladesh-related articles that I thought it best to leave the link there. Best wishes, Sminthopsis84 (talk) 20:41, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

That's good news, Sminthopsis84! I marked it as a dead link after reading the first post at Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 51#Archiveurl additions needed. Glad it's back up now. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:46, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Good news indeed. A move from a previous site also happened, and it would be great to have more editor power working on fixing the many links that don't work for that reason. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 19:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

rôle vs. role

Would it drive you batty if I were to restore the circumflex in the word rôle for the List of New York City Ballet 2011 repertory‎? The spelling with diacritic is standard in the ballet world (the dance world has other usages all its own; a choreographer makes a dance on a dancer.) — Robert Greer (talk) 15:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Go right ahead - I trust you know more about ballet terminology than I do. Sorry for the problem. GoingBatty (talk) 15:42, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for being so accomodating! — Robert Greer (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I reverted the edit myself, which I should have done when you first contacted me. GoingBatty (talk) 02:12, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you again, your gentlemanly behavior is a great rarity on Wikipedia! — Robert Greer (talk) 02:46, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Deadend tag

One quick question about your bot! When checking for wikilinks does it make sure the page linked to exists or does even a read link count as enough to remove the deadlinks tag? ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 13:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

My bot uses
AWB's general fixes, which states "Appends {{Dead end}} if article has no wikilinks. Removes the tag otherwise." I always assumed that redlinks would not count towards removing the dead end tag, but I've never tested that. If you have an example article, I'd be happy to test it. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:05, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Could I make you an example article? :) ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 14:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
I made my own example instead! I tried processing
bug report for the AWB developers. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Looks like your bot also removed the {{
Adrenergic group C1 in this edit, even though it doesn't have any bluelinks in the article body. GoingBatty (talk) 00:58, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Undo of Addbot

Thanks for the UNDO of an Addbot edit! I had noticed the edit but for some reason I never got around to hitting the Undo button. ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 03:37, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome - I did it just to confirm that the latest AWB SVN snapshot doesn't make the same mistake before responding to your bug report. I was curious as to which of your bot jobs you were running when that bad edit happened. GoingBatty (talk) 03:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
It was task 3 (one of the early ones) I believe which is just general maintenance tagging using AWB, Do you know if the Wikify has been phased out in the latest snapshot? ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 03:43, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes it is - see Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs/Archive_21#Removing_Dead_End_and_Wikify_templates_is_incorrect. GoingBatty (talk) 03:51, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Simple English proposal at the Pump

Hello,

As one of the participants in the Bot Request about getting the Simple Wiki to the top of the Languages, you are invited to participate in the reopened discussion of the same. Your feedback will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Thanks for letting me know. I made the same AWB comment on the Village pump that I made on the Bot Request page. GoingBatty (talk) 00:48, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Add a correction to AWB's typo list

I've never added anything to AWB's typo list, so I'd rather not add one just yet. Could you add[T|t]tamil[N|n]adu -> Tamil Nadu. Bgwhite (talk) 17:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bgwhite! There's already a rule for "Tamil Nadu" at
Wikipedia:AWB/T#New additions. Did you really want a rule that looks for Ttamilnadu (with two "t"s)? Are there pages where it's not fixing a misspelling? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Then it is not working. See
Wikipedia:AWB/T#Usage
says: "AWB purposely avoids fixing typos in certain areas of the wiki-text. Typo fixing is prevented within: image names, templates names and parameters, wikilink targets, quotations, and any text that follows a colon or asterisk. If a typo rule matches a wikilink target, this rule will be ignored on the whole page." Therefore:
Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 06:04, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
I just added {{
TamilNadu. Eventually, these will appear on Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings and we'll get them all cleaned up. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 06:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I didn't read "...this rule will be ignored on the whole page". Another thing learned about Wikipedia. Only 1,403,405 things left. I typed up some regex rules for the editor and he should be good to go to fix them. Thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 06:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

MI

Maybe you could go and update all multiple issues tags to use the new style? This would avoid a lot of confusion. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Magioladitis! I keep an eye on Category:Pages using multiple issues with incorrect parameters and fix those. However, I can imagine that making updates to 55,000 articles that have no impact on how the page would be displayed might get some people upset. What confusion would be avoided by changing the format? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:14, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
I expect problems with people using older versions of AWB in fact. I also don't know if mixed style affects rendering time. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Then maybe the solution should be to release a new version of AWB, which will also stop people from adding {{wikify}} to articles. You may be right about rendering time, but I don't recall a conversation about that at Template talk:Multiple issues when the format was changed.
The best way to fix the MI issue is for editors to fix the problems in the articles, and then remove the maintenance templates altogether. How about we look for articles with multiple issues without a talk page, and add the proper WikiProject templates to get the articles more visibility from people with the expertise and passion to fix them? 14:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I've been thinking about this some more. Doesn't AWB 5.4.0.0 convert MI from the new format back to the old format?
I'm also looking at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/History. Should the 5.x.x.x row include that one of the changes is support for the new {{multiple issues}} format? Also, should the release date for the 5.x.x.x row be changed from 2012 to 2013? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:47, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a bot that could either complete this task or help out with the task? I saw you did a similar thing a few sections up ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 19:19, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Looks like someone else beat me to it. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 22:16, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Jennifer O'Neill article your undo (good!)

couldn't agree more with your undo deleting film reference "Low Hanging Jungle Bunnies"; Where did that derogatory come from ? Out of left field, I think.

A talk question however. This pic sez Jennifer Oneill in Summer of '42. This pic is NOT a shot of her in / from that movie. Do you think that pic should be replaced with the pic of her from the wiki "summer of '42 page?" What sayeth you ? Just a thought, if accuracy is what is being sought here. Thanks... Taninao0126 (talk) 14:42, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand why people find it amusing to vandalize Wikipedia, but I reverted it.
I fixed the caption for the picture on Jennifer O'Neill article to reflect it's from Lady Ice in 1973. (Click on the picture to go to File:Jennifer O'Neill 1973.JPG, then click on the ebay link, and scroll down to see a picture of the back of the photo.) I think it's a much better picture of her face than the movie poster on the Summer of '42 article. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I had forgotten to mention in my talk question above that the source of this pic and that this pic was from the Lady Ice movie (I knew that), but you caught it anyway. Great!!! Hey, you ARE good !! Thanks... Taninao0126 (talk) 13:08, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

P.P.S. In the filmography credits, there is her 1991 movie Committed, but it is in red (is this bad, for "page does not exist" !!??) but there is a proper credit for it in the IMDB webpage at: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094900/?ref_=fn_al_tt_6 Should this be fixed as well ?? Thanks.. Taninao0126 (talk) 13:16, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

You're correct - the link to Committed is a redlink because Wikipedia doesn't have an article for the 1991 film. Wikipedia:Red link states: "It is useful in editing article text to create a red link to indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable" and "Articles should not have red links to topics that are unlikely ever to have an article." Wikipedia:Notability (films) has lots of information about determining whether or not a film is notable, and states: "Examples of coverage insufficient to fully establish notability include...listings in comprehensive film guides such as...the Internet Movie Database."
I'm not familiar with the film, so I don't know if it's notable or not. User:Steel1943 added the red link in this edit, so you might want to ask that user on his/her talk page, or raise the question on Talk:Jennifer O'Neill. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:50, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Hey GoingBatty, I stumbled upon this conversation by complete coincidence when I was checking to see if my red link to the nonexistent article Committed (1991 film) was a valid redlink (basically, a redlink that is in more than one article and could/should be created.) Long story short, I saw that it was in at least three articles, and about four months ago, already answered Taninao0126's question here. Steel1943 (talk) 01:01, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Steel1943! I'm not familiar Committed - is it more notable than the other films in O'Neill's filmography that don't have Wikipedia articles? GoingBatty (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I see that you fixed the date of the film, which is good, and that you were encouraging Taninao0126 against adding an external link to the body of the article, which is also good. However, after reading the talk page section a few times, I still don't understand why you added a red link to just that one film. It makes that film stand out more than all the others. Sorry if I'm being dense. GoingBatty (talk) 01:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
The reason I made it a red link was due to a couple of reasons:
  1. There is already at least one film in Wikipedia with a full article with the name Committed (
    disambiguation
    page.
  2. There are other notable people who were cast in Committed (1991 film), including Ron Palillo, most notable for being on the 1970's TV series Welcome Back, Kotter.
I felt that these two reasons provided the
notability to warrant the existence of the red link. Steel1943 (talk) 01:38, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I agree with your concern in reason #1, but you could accomplish the same goal with a comment in the code that's not visible to the reader. Reason #2 looks good to me. Hope Taninao0126 will agree. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

See how they ran

Thanks for tidying up after me, 'Bats (not the first time, I'm sure). I think one can hear exactly what Ronnie meant - a superb solo almost wholly drowned out by the silly vaudeville vocal antics. And of course he and Humph were big pals, so he'd probably have heard the "Bad Penny" similarity straight away. Still, one of my all-time favourite Fab Four hits, of course. The strange thing about the video, for me, is how little we seem to see of George - could be counted on the fingers of one hand, I thought.. but in fact he appears at least 30 times. Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

You made some good improvements to the "Lady Madonna" article. Hope someone can provide the reference for McCartney's decision to remix the song. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:50, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
p.s. yes, if Scott did indeed say "behind other instruments", then my change there will need to be reverted. The "imitation brass vocals" could be mentioned separately, but RS for that is needed too. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:57, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

February 2013 disambig contest.

Greetings! I'm giving a prize of up to a hundred dollars to the winner of the February 2013 disambiguation contest, and lesser prizes to the rest of the top four. Of course, the conditions of the contest will make it quite a challenge to win the full amount, but I hope to stimulate competitiveness with a little extra incentive. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I've posted a reply on the talk page. GoingBatty (talk) 03:00, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Best of luck! bd2412 T 04:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

The Who

Just curious, but why remove the category? I haven't reverted, since you did it and I figured you had a good reason. Thanks! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 23:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I thought that
WP:SUBCAT. Please let me know if this set of categories is an exception to the general guideline. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:10, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good! I don't object, but some of the more genre-crazy might! Thanks for the clarification. Cheers! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 23:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
If they object, it'll be my own fault for doing so without a detailed edit summary. If it happens, I'll practice
WP:BRD and take it to the talk page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:28, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

The Joker (Heath Ledger)

Regarding your question as an edit summary on

The Joker (Heath Ledger)
, I would like to ask if you are talking of only the categories or the content too? If the former, I have no idea. If the latter, then I think it might be useful to import as much as is necessary. Cheers,
(TB please!)

I was only referring to whether additional categories should be added. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
In that case, I have no idea. You know categories better than me. I think you might be best to judge that. Cheers,

New York

I don't see how this could apply. The rule before required a space (/s) between new and york parts before it would match. Perhaps I'm missing something? Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 02:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Comment needed

Please reply at Rjwilmsi's question at

Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Skip_if_only_minor_replacement_made_ignores_advanced_F.26R_settings. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:49, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done. GoingBatty (talk) 13:30, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Here too!

Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Does_not_remove_date_ordinals_from_infobox. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:54, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done. GoingBatty (talk) 23:12, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Question

Hi, GoingBatty. Thank you for taking care of fixing num_employees field at the companies' infoboxes. The bot is doing a good job and by my understanding there has been no problems with false changes. I would like to ask if it is also possible to do this change by bot. As the company infobox has been updated several times, at one moment these fields became obsolete. They are transcluded, of course, but the shorter form is preferred. This change is not substantial, it does not change anything in this how the page looks like, and if I understand correctly, it is not encouraged to use a bot for that kind of separate changes. However, as I have seen with some other changes maybe it could be done when the bot is performing also some other tasks at the page (e.g. this change changed also the template name spelling which is by my understanding is very similar change to this what I proposed)? The issue is that a lot of editors does not use a skeleton template from the template's documentations but rather copy-paste existing infoboxes from other articles, so these fields are reproducing themselves. What you think about this request? Thank you. Beagel (talk) 14:44, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Beagel! You're right - since changing these parameters doesn't change how the page is displayed, it would not be a good bot task. However, I did add these to the Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Rename template parameters page, so people making other changes would also automatically be prompted to change the parameters too. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:58, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
The bad news is that this won't take effect immediately due to a bug in AWB. The good news is that the bug was fixed today, so people will be able to start making these changes once the new version of AWB is released. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. This seems to be a good solution. Beagel (talk) 05:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by The Seekers

Thank you for your help with this. It is very much appreciated. All the best. Figaro (talk) 06:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 11:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Backlog by WikiProject

You made a comment at

Category talk:Wikipedia backlog#Backlog by WikiProject? back in 2012. I thought you might find this proposal by Biosthmors interesting. Ryan Vesey 21:54, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for thinking of me, Ryan! I posted a comment on both pages about User:Svick/WikiProject cleanup listing. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:00, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
That is super awesome, I'm glad I thought of you! This might render the WikiProject proposal moot, I'll leave a note at meta:Grants:IEG/Backlog pages for all WikiProjects. Do you know what this uses? I had mentioned the possibility of using CATSCAN. In any case, the Svick thing is the best thing since sliced bread! When was this created, do WikiProjects no about it? This is so awesome. Ryan Vesey 03:09, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Sorry I don't know the details about how Svick gets the info from the toolserver, but I'm sure Svick could provide it. I requested the Beatles project to be added, and then posted to both Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles and Talk:The Beatles, but haven't received any support. I hope you have better luck! GoingBatty (talk) 03:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Pythian Baseball Club

Hey GoingBatty, just wanted to let you know that an article you created in result of a move,

Pythian Base Ball Club
.

On a related note, I'm surprised that

Template:RMNote doesn't exist; it could have made this notification a lot easier. I think I might try to fix that. Steel1943 (talk) 04:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

By the way, the discussion is here. Steel1943 (talk) 05:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up - I've replied there. GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Perfect way to hit the ball back into my court. References? I got references. I am so glad to avoid an edit war. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.156.92 (talk) 23:48, February 25, 2013

You're welcome - hope that my efforts will get other people involved to properly update this article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:54, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
P.S. When you post on a user talk page or an article talk page, please sign your posts with ~~~~ to automatically add your signature & time. Thanks!

AUF

Thanks GoingBatty for trimming the American University article.

My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 17:11, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks man

I was having the hardest time finding the bottom, just was lazy. they should have software so that talk goes to bottom like a forum. Is really annoying to have to edit talk pages and edit the whole long page.TCO (talk) 22:07, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure! Having a subsection header does make it inconvenient to figure out where to post. Hope this whole issue gets resolved soon! GoingBatty (talk) 22:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Confusing edit

Please explain this Why would you remove the publisher? If you care to respond, please notify me on my talk with {{

tb}}. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Template:Cite web#publisher states |publisher= is "Not normally included for periodicals". Sorry for not explaining this in the edit summary. GoingBatty (talk) 16:29, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thank you for discussing the bug in {{BLP sources}} so that it got fixed. —rybec 02:07, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
My pleasure - always glad to have consistency with these templates! GoingBatty (talk) 02:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Question

I believe you would make an excellent

administrator, and you would be able to achieve even more with a few extra tools. Have you considered this? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:57, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Martin! Thank you so much for thinking of me. I've read over some of the admin information, and want to take some time to think about this. Was there any admin area in particular you were thinking about? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:25, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
At least the {{
editprotected}} (technical stuff) area. ;-) mabdul 09:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I've taken a look at Wikipedia:Edit requests#Responding to requests and started responding to some of the semi-protected requests. GoingBatty (talk) 15:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Optimus Prime

Hello, If you remember, I requested an edit to the part of the Optimus Prime page that states his main component transforms into an ion blaster, and i was asked to provide a reference from a place other than another Wiki. The following reference is from the websites "http://www2.unicron.com/1984-transformers/generation-1/autobot-leader/104-optimus-prime.html":

In robot mode, Optimus Prime actually splits into three components. THE OPTIMUS PRIME MODULE IS THE ROBOTIC SENTINENT BEING THAT IS THE STOREHOUSE OF HIS VAST KNOWLEDGE AND STRENGTH. He can lift 4,000,000 lbs. and blow from his fist exerts a force of 12,000 lbs. per square inch. He carries a laser rifle and can burn a hole in the nosecone of a Decepticon jet fighter at a distance of 30 miles, aided by his outstanding visual acuity. His Prime module also known as Roller, is a smart cart shaped device that he uses to unobtrusively slip behind enemy lines. He can maintain radio control over it at distances up to 1200 miles. Having Roller present somewhere is like being there himself. He can operate by remote control his Combat Deck module up to a distance of 1500 feet. The Auto Launcher mounted on the deck can use a variety of artillery and radiation beam weapons, including most of those used by his fellow Autobots. The launcher also includes a highly dexterous grapple arm which allows it to load itself and change its weaponry. The communications disk antenna mounted on the launcher provides a link between Optimus and all his fellow Autobots within a radius of 50 miles. It can be adapted to a satellite hook up that increases its effective range 10-fold.

This next one is from "http://www.transformerland.com/g1/optimusprime.html":

"OPTIMUS PRIME is the largest, strongest, and wisest of all Autobots. Feels his role is the protection of all life, including Earth-life. Fights unceasingly to defeat the Decepticons. Splits into three autonomous modules: 1) OPTIMUS PRIME... THE BRAIN CENTER KNOWN AS THE COMMANDER 2) Roller, the autobot scout car...a spy who operates up to 1200 miles away; and 3) Autobot Headquarters...the combat deck equipped with a versatile mechanic/artillery robot. Injury to one module is felt by the other two."

In both examples, Optimus' main component is recognized as the "commander","brain center", or "robotic sentinent", not an ion blaster as the Wiki currently suggests. However, as can be noticed in the top example, Optimus CARRIES an ion blaster (or laser rifle, as the example calls it). I hope these references prove helpful. Thank you, MaximusPrime2949 (talk) 18:31, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info (next time please continue the conversation on the article's talk page). I've made the edit you requested. GoingBatty (talk) 02:31, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI

I saw your note on the Walter Raleigh's talk page regarding the edit request. I don't know if you looked into it further so here is what I found. I bumped into this info being added yesterday by IgorChe (talk · contribs) to the Oscar Wilde article. Then when new editor Elvicendecun (talk · contribs) started adding the same thing today. For a moment I thought a proper ref was being added but it turns out it wasn't. The list of honourees was certainly eclectic but not totally out of the realm of possibility. The street stuff was just plain weird and the fact that one of the streets was being given 4 or 5 different "recipients" names gave me pause. My time online is kind of choppy right now so I didn't have a chance to investigate further. If a source can be found to support the honour, of course, the items can be restored and added to WR's article. If this or another editor starts with the same thing tomorrow we might want to alert the biography (living and otherwise) project(s) to see if their editors can verify things one way or the other. Thanks for your time and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 04:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

BTW considering your username and the Batman userbox you sport did you, like me, find it nice that the guy in the UK who escorted the criminal suspect to gaol was wearing the Adam West version of the costume? :-) MarnetteD | Talk 04:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
My guess is that the cover of the prospectus is just a pretty design, and they didn't really rename the actual streets. Hopefully the requester can come back with a reliable source for the other request. (I looked quickly on the University of Oxford website and didn't see one.)
I'm not familiar with the Batman incident you mentioned, but would love it if you have a link (or video) to share. The Adam West costume and Batmobile will always be my favorites! GoingBatty (talk) 02:20, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
User:Redrose64 has done some research into the situation and left his thoughts here User talk:MarnetteD#Fiona Bruce etc if you are interested. Here is one link with a pretty good vid that I found BBC I think the story has moved on since this video and you might find better pics out there - I found another one at the examiner.com but that is blocked as spam here at WikiP so I couldn't leave it for you. There is a US cable station showing the Adam West episodes at this time. Though it is not always shown in these repeats I always enjoy the two parter where the Green Hornet and Kato appear in Gotham and Col. Gumm (the delightful Roger C. Carmel gets their alter egos mixed up. Thanks for your reply and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 03:54, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the link about the roads - glad Redrose confirmed what I speculated. The Batman video is great! I got to meet this Batman last year and was blown away. (No, that's not me in the picture). Thanks so much! GoingBatty (talk) 04:10, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Hooray for the meeting. One of my favorites is meetin Pat Troughton at the 20th anniversary Dr Who convention in Chicago in 1983. Naturally I will be celebrating the 30th anniversary of that along with the 50th anniversary of the show this year. Many thanks for the link and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 04:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Er. I don't think I've met anybody DW-connected since Spencer Chapman in about 1972-74 (his son sat next to me in school). Most recent celeb I met is Anne Diamond, 2 March 2013 - she opened the annual exhibition of a model railway club that I belong to. Anyway, the Huffington Post has also covered Batman. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the Huff Post UK article, Redrose! I did a double take at the caption of "Batman" standing next to "Robin" that says "Batman loves a fag and the football after work" - I didn't notice until later.  :-) GoingBatty (talk) 20:17, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Available for hire?

I obviously don't know how to write what is in my head. (See AWB bug on hidden cat). You have once again translated my pathetic writing. Are you available as a full-time translator? Are you also available to translate wife speak? Thanks again and thank you for next time (probably in the 10 minutes at my rate). Bgwhite (talk) 05:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

If I could translate wife speak, I'd be selling my secrets on late night infomercials from my yacht.  :-) GoingBatty (talk) 12:37, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

AWB and page previews

You've just reported a couple of bugs about AWB and page previews. The other day I put in rev 8967. Is this a coincidence or am I missing something? Would you be able to retest with the current SVN? Thanks Rjwilmsi 11:26, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

It's not a coincidence at all. I saw Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs/Archive 21#AWB preview no longer shows red links in red, and thought this fix was just the redlinks issue. If this also fixes all the issues I reported yesterday, then I'm very excited, and apologize for the unnecessary bug reports. I'll be happy to test these when the next SVN version is released. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 12:48, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Userspace

Is there anyway to stop your bot editing my userspace? RetroLord 11:08, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Retrolord! I'm presuming you're referring to edits such as this one, where my bot commented out the content categories. The best way to stop my bot from editing your userspace is to ensure that the pages in your userspace do not contain any content categories. Per
comment them out. Restore the categories when you move the draft back into article space." Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 12:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

AWB

Thanks for letting me know. I try to catch strays, but something's always going to slip through, no? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:08, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Wish AWB would show the category in the preview, so you could see if it exists or not. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:53, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Nogie Meggison‎‎ for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nogie Meggison‎‎ is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nogie Meggison‎‎ until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
I noticed that you contributed to this article and I am notifying the author and all of the article's significant contributors (6). - ʈucoxn\talk 09:37, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Tucoxn! It's very kind of you to let me know. However, I wouldn't consider my edit particularly significant. I made a fix to the categorization after receiving your message, but have no objection with this article going through the AfD process. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 12:04, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. When posting the AfD, I notified the article's author and all six of its contributors (not including the bot)... not many notifications. I wouldn't want to be accused of canvassing. - ʈucoxn\talk 14:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

SVN snapshot

Hi there, will downloading 'SVN snapshot' affect my AWB's saved settings? i.e. I have saved settings for 'Clean up', one for 'Disambiguation' etc.? GiantSnowman 16:52, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

No - the SVN snaphot doesn't overwrite your saved settings. GoingBatty (talk) 17:15, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Perfect, will download now then! GiantSnowman 19:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment

Hey GoingBatty; I'm dropping you this note because you've used

the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! GoingBatty (talk) 02:08, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Parser trickery

This one is the real trick. Billboard used to always show urls that were of the format <link to first link in browser session>#<link to where editor currently is sans site name], so the parser has to figure out that even though the link starts out talking about the Canadian Hot 100, it really meant the Japan Hot 100.

Whoever coded that generation of Billboard's site should be stood up against the wall and shot.—Kww(talk) 23:55, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Ugh! That's nasty - glad Billboard is fixing it, and that you're working to prepare WP for fix change and any future changes. GoingBatty (talk) 02:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

num_employees field again

Hi, GoingBatty. When you took care of fixing num_employees field at the companies' infoboxes, it was decided to be one time action. Unfortunately it seems that Edson Rosa (talk · contribs) is back editing as dynamic IP. He continues to use a full stop (.) to separate thousands [5], [6], so maybe we should keep this task running. There is not so much what could be done to avoid block evasion as the IP changes every time he starts editing.

I would also like to ask if there is any tool which helps to find duplicated url-s. It would be useful with articles having hundreds of references. Beagel (talk) 06:42, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Beagel! I could run the bot task to change the full stop to a comma again, but can't do it automatically until a fix is published for AWB. While AWB will combine duplicated URLs, I'm not aware of a tool that can provide a list of articles with duplicated URLs. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:35, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 Done for all articles in Category:Companies of Brazil and its subcategories - there were only 5 to be changed. GoingBatty (talk) 01:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much. You are very helpful. I have a feeling that maybe I should get over of my hesitance toward technological progress and request for AWB registration. Beagel (talk) 15:05, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Ali Nasir Article

Dear Batty

I have gone through an article about a famous Pakistani Television anchor "Ali Nasir". It is reliable, however I find that you have reservations about his notability. He is fairly popular and a lot of people like his program. Internet penetration here is limited and thus finding internet references is difficult despite that there are enough citations and references. There is a lot of internet censorship and internet video access is difficult. He always speaks in favour of the people.

I guess you and others may review this article as references are reliable. The warning hurts the followers of Ali Nasir as the warning at the top takes credit away from him — Preceding unsigned comment added by Businessedit (talkcontribs) 10:56, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Businessedit! The {{notability}} and {{BLP sources}} tags were added by User:Au writer in this edit from October. After that, my bot modified the {{notability}} tag so that it points to the notability guideline for biographies. Modifying the tag does not mean I shared the reservations about his notability - I only want to make sure people are shown the proper guideline so they can improve the article and then remove the tags. Since the tags were added, eight more references were added to the article. When you believe the article has enough information to meet the notability guideline and is has sufficient references, you may remove the {{notability}} and {{BLP sources}} tags.
However, it's very concerning that it appears someone copied the text from http://investorguide360.com/investor-guide-pakistan/ and pasted it into Wikipedia, which may be a copyright violation. Therefore, I have added {{copypaste}} to the article. I suggest that you reword the entire article so that the Wikipedia article is not deleted for copyright infringement.
In addition to making minor formatting changes, I also added tags to request a date and reference for the Consumer Choice Award.
Good luck, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

TRS-80 proposed split

Hi there,

I notice that you recently contributed to the TRS-80 article and wondered if you were interested in adding your opinion to the discussion on the proposed article split. If you have no strong opinion either way, or don't wish to contribute, please feel free to ignore this message. Thank you for your time. Ubcule (talk) 16:08, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

My contribution a year ago was minor typo fixing. However, I have fond memories of the sounds my TRS-80 Model III & 4's disk drive made when it booted up, and the way the daisy wheel printer shook the table (and the whole house)! I've made some fixes to the reference format, and commented on the talk page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 20:47, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I never liked the name. "Tandy Radio Shack based upon the Z80 microprocessor", yes, I understood that as a fairly sensible name for the first model - but why stick with it for new models, especially when other CPUs were used? Hobbyist magazines of the early 1980s often had articles for software (to key in yourself, no free CD-ROMs in those days) and ideas for hardware modifications or add-ons. A month or two later, there'd be a reader's letter, either "There's a bug in the program that you printed - I keyed it into my TRS-80 and it didn't work" or "I bought the electronic components that you listed, then opened up my TRS-80 and it's nothing like the diagrams that you printed so I don't know where to fit them". One chap I knew bought a TRS-80 Pocket Computer hoping it would run "all the TRS-80 software". Some hope. That clone of a Sharp PC-1211 had its own problems.
10 DIM A(10)
20 FOR I = 1 TO 10 STEP 1
30 LET A(I) = 1
40 NEXT I
50 PRINT A(10)
60 END
Now, which of the class can tell me how many times the loop will execute? (a) 1 (b) 9 (c) 10 (d) 11 (e) infinity. You may use a TRS-80 Pocket Computer to check your answer. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I learned BASIC by typing in games and programs from magazines - can't imagine doing that now. Normally I would have guessed (c), but based on your comments I'm guessing that's not the right answer. GoingBatty (talk) 21:45, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
It should be (c), but on that silly little machine, variable names were a single letter; and although these could be dimensioned for use as a one-dimensional array, the array elements mapped to the variables with later letters. So, A(1) was actually A; A(2) was actually B, and so on up to A(26) being Z. Therefore, since A(9) was also I, the counter I got reset to 1 on the ninth pass through the loop [LET A(9) = 1], so it never hit 10, and the answer is (e) infinity. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Wow! Did tech support kindly suggest that you just change I to X in your program?  :-) GoingBatty (talk) 23:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

collapsed

I started fixing all pages with WPB and collapsed=yes which is redundant. (Example). You may want to have a look too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


Recategorization request

Yep - it's next on my list of fixes. Should start getting to it tomorrow. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

GAN review

Hi. Would you be interested in reviewing my GAN for

Sorry Dan56, evaluating prose is not my area of expertise. However, I'll run your articles through a few tools to see if I can fix any mistakes to make your GAN process go more smoothly. Looks like there's a big backlog of articles to be reviewed at
You may want to make sure that you have a consistent citation style on each article. GoingBatty (talk) 23:40, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that you removed publishers from the citation templates, citing the guideline that says not to include them for periodicals. But aren't periodicals like newspaper and magazines, i.e. print?
Yes, but I also don't think it's necessary to include
I only place "Allmusic" in the publisher field, so it isn't italicize, as it would be if placed in the "work" field.
Yes, so I changed |publisher=
Rovi Corporation, please feel free to revert my bold edits. GoingBatty (talk) 01:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

sheesh

I dont buy into Tony's style of responding to the issue, It shouldnt be on Confuciouses talk page for a start - if there are already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_articles_written_in_Australian_English 17,000 + articles with the hidden category - I do not see why Confucious should suddenly add British English to confuse the issue. It is a protocol/ procedural issue nothing to do with Tony's interpretation - or a need for examples... I am taking this to the Australian noticeboard.

Glad it's just a disagreement on what hidden template to add to the article, and not something that impacts the readers. As you continue pursuing this issue, you may want to suggest that someone rewrites the documentation which appears at Template:Use Australian English so it's in English instead of Latin, which is at User:Ohconfucius/USE disclaimer. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 01:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha - I will need more than luck when it comes to this sort of thing. I have to get off in a moment (which means I will not be able to deal with some things till this evening) but have taken it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board - and BTW - your user name makes me smile -

Glad I could provide an accidental smile for you. See you at the notice board. GoingBatty (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

RE Comment about user warning

Hi GoingBatty; I like your user name, BTW. :) I left Sluffs the standard level one template issued by Twinkle. I didn't want to create my own message because I didn't want him to accuse me of overstating the warning or doing something else inappropriate. I don't like to change people's comments on talk pages, so I didn't remove them. That also would fan the flames to an already unnecessarily volatile situation. But if you really want the comments removed, an admin probably would do it. BTW, I think you handled yourself with great restraint, for which I commend you. Best! Cresix (talk) 01:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cresix. Thanks for the explanation (and compliment). I'm not a Twinkle user, but I did a bit of research and took a stroll over to
WP:UTM, and didn't realize how many different templates there are for user messages! {{uw-harass1}} and {{uw-agf1}} look like reasonable choices as well. Thanks again, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:34, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Just noticed this, and decided to post a link to
WP:DTA. It's just an essay, but I stand by it.—Kww(talk) 02:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing that Kww - I hadn't seen that before, but can respect that opinion. GoingBatty (talk) 02:43, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much

Thank you for your helpful edits to the new article I'd created, Neville Page, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 02:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure - I've made some more changes. GoingBatty (talk) 03:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Personally I'm of the opinion that the more information and more fields populated in citations, the better, but oh well. — Cirt (talk) 04:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Cirt - You did a great job on this article! My goal was to remove redundant information per Template:Cite web#publisher, such as stating that The Morning Call is published by The Morning Call, Inc. Just because there are a lot of fields in the template doesn't mean they all have to be used. Having said that, if you think I went too far and removed an important piece of information, please feel free to revert part of my edits. Thanks, and keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 12:28, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
No worries, no big deal really, just personal preference I guess. Thanks again, — Cirt (talk) 13:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

AWB help on feature requests & bug reports

Hi, for AWB bug reports and feature requests I am asking for your help, whenever you are able to give it (please treat this as an open invite so include other willing editors if you're aware of them). I think AWB needs a team of knowledgeable users to support the improvement of AWB. You are one of the editors I see doing this currently, I am asking for more of your help. We are limited in development resource so I'm asking for more help in areas that non-developers can support. So

For bug reports:

  • where the status is need information, we need to chase up the editor/s involved to get the required details.
  • where the bug is an exception, we need to know if/how it can be reproduced.
  • duplicate reports could be cleared

For feature requests:

  • where the status is need information, we need to chase up the editor/s involved to get the required details.
  • generally we need to make sure the feature request is clear, there is a link to the MOS/policy page/template documentation wherever needed, there is consensus for it.
  • if the feature request lacks consensus/is against policy we should archive it and notify the editor.
  • we should ideally prioritize feature requests. We could add a new parameter to the feature request template for this. I would like to see requests as high/medium/low based on criteria such as value added by feature/time saved for user/number of pages or templates affected. This will help to focus development effort and clear down unreasonable feature requests.

All of the above is up for improvement, we could discuss on Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Dev. Thanks Rjwilmsi 19:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I'll be happy to help - I'll reply on the Dev page. GoingBatty (talk) 00:48, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering whether I can download and use snapshot now. Auto-update forced me to use AWB 5.5. Unfortunately, it's majorly inconvenient now that the edit window feature (Click in diff box to focus edit box) doesn't work. -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 06:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Long answer is here.
Short answer is: Download Microsoft.mshtml.dll from here and install in your AWB directory. Bgwhite (talk) 07:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Feedback

New user feedback on the WIKIpedia Nasza Klasa pageNoworyta (talk) 02:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Noworyta! I took a quick look at
Nasza-klasa.pl and removed a duplicate infobox. I won't be on wiki for a few days, but I'll look at it again soon. GoingBatty (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, GoingBatty. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Inline Templates.
Message added 01:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Jason Quinn (talk) 01:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Michael jackson dead link

Hi, thanks for arranging the links! If I wanted to add new information to the page of Michael Jackson, I might ask you?Of course, in proper English. Forgive me for my English but I'm Italian :) --LilaMJ (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Ciao LilaMJ! Your English is much better than my Italian! Instead of contacting me directly, I suggest you post your suggestions on Talk:Michael Jackson, so multiple people will be able to help you. Grazie! GoingBatty (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi GoingBatty, I have written on the page Talk:Michael Jackson but still no one answered me. You should change a lot of little things on the page of Michael Jackson. I'm sorry and thank you! --LilaMJ (talk) 20:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi LilaMJ - I responded at Talk:Michael Jackson#1991–93: Dangerous, Heal the World Foundation, and Super Bowl XXVII. GoingBatty (talk) 00:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!! :) --LilaMJ (talk) 23:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi GoingBatty,I write on your page because on the page Talk:Michael Jackson, no one answers. Scribd.com considered a reliable source: I used it on the page of Michael Jackson-wikipedia italian. On Scribd. com are inserted the most documents also of some significance. On page unonotizie.it speaking of tours donated to charity. And for $ 300 million, there is another source[1]. Thanks!! --LilaMJ (talk) 21:14, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Conspiracies

Dont let them trick you into changing things - Its all a general hoax- Michael Jackson Faked His Death or Michael Joe and Michael Joseph are twins ....


  • The reference in the article
File:Michael Jackson death certificate.jpg
  • Joseph is also used on his LAST WILL
Last Will and Testament
  • His fortune was all under the title Estate of Michael Joseph Jackson
Estate of Michael Joseph Jackson aka Michael Jackson
  • Books he has written and published like Moomwalk use Joseph
Michael Jackson (13 October 2009). Moonwalk. Random House Digital, Inc. pp. 6–. . Retrieved 11 November 2011.
  • In interviews with him over the years "Ebony" has used "Joseph"
Johnson Publishing Company (December 2007). Ebony. Johnson Publishing Company. p. 94.
ISSN 0012-9011
.
Johnson Publishing Company (May 1984). Ebony. Johnson Publishing Company. p. 163.
ISSN 0012-9011
.
  • Looks like he wrote "Joseph" himself on his kids Birth certificates
MJ jr and Paris birth certificates
  • His children also have this middle name -
Mary K. Pratt (1 January 2010). Michael Jackson: King of Pop. ABDO. p. 100. .

.........Moxy (talk) 06:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info - I'll respond at Talk:Michael Jackson. GoingBatty (talk) 00:33, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

BattyBot and BannerShells

Hi there. Since 2 April, your bot

Hi Mentoz86! The
WikiProjectBannerShell}} template when 2+ WikiProject templates are present. AWB only adds WikiProjectBannerShell when three or more or present. So my bot has been skipping 80-90% of talk pages since they already have WikiProjectBannerShell or have less than 3 WikiProject templates. I'll be off-wiki for a few days, so I've turned the bot off for now and I'll see what discussion occurs while I'm gone. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Seeing no objections, I plan to turn the bot back on. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:20, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Need help

Hi GoingBatty, plz help me in removing the tag {{Orphan|date=April 2013}} added by Yobot. I have shown links and references for the article.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ningombam_Bupenda_Meitei . I also had a long discussion with Avoided long back and the article had no problem. Donizo (talk) 21:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

You wrote on Yobot talk page ":Hi Donizo! I see you have already removed the orphan tag from Ningombam Bupenda Meitei. Wikipedia:Orphan#Criteria defines as orphaned article as one with no incoming links from other articles. The best way to solve this is by adding links from other articles to Ningombam Bupenda Meitei. For example, I added a link from List of alumni of St. Stephen's College, Delhi to Ningombam Bupenda Meitei. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:06, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

My edit to List of alumni of St. Stephen's College, Delhi was reverted because I didn't provide a reference. Therefore I have requested a reference on the Ningombam Bupenda Meitei article. Once you have it, feel free to add it to both pages. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 04:20, 25 March 2013 (UTC) " Donizo (talk) 21:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I copied the reference from the Ningombam Bupenda Meitei article and added it to List of alumni of St. Stephen's College, Delhi in this edit. Therefore the Ningombam Bupenda Meitei article is no longer an orphan. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:37, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you ,Batty. But,it says as Ningombam Bupenda Meitei, Indian writer, essayist, and poet.[2][not in citation given] ,please check it again.Donizo (talk) 10:53, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Neville Page

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:03, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! GoingBatty (talk) 00:04, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Citations using unsupported parameters

I saw you add "Pages with citations using unsupported parameters" to your user page. I came across some good ones today... Gang Forward and Atlantic (horse). It is hard to tell if there are actual references among the sea of red. Bgwhite (talk) 06:47, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Um, I don't see any red in those two articles, and don't see those pages in Category:Pages with citations using unsupported parameters, and don't see any recent edits to those pages to fix them. GoingBatty (talk) 16:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) AWB's "Highlight errors" option shows plenty of red in both articles; maybe that's what Bgwhite meant. It looks as if the intended URLs contain spaces and vertical bars. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:21, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 Fixed both articles using AWB. GoingBatty (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
The "sea of red" was viewing the references section via my web browser. frommm=, toyyyy= and l-textSearchScope= were among the unsupported parameters. Thanks for fixing them. I stumbled on the pages because of an AfD about a horse. The creating editor was new when he did the two articles. Bgwhite (talk) 21:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Hmmm - interesting that I didn't see the "sea of red" from my browser. GoingBatty (talk) 21:43, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
I see it in IE, Firefox and Chrome. I also see when logged out of Wikipedia. Can you see it when logged out while viewing this page? Bgwhite (talk) 22:09, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
I see it very clearly in IE using the link you provided, and I didn't need to log out to see it. GoingBatty (talk) 22:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
I guess you aren't married. My wife has me seething red at every turn. Bgwhite (talk) 23:13, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
I have a Wikipedia widow at home too. Maybe I'm seething red so often that I'm desensitized to red?  :-) GoingBatty (talk) 23:15, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Found the reason why the red was showing up for me... The errors are visible if you add some code to your vector.css file. However, this will no longer be necessary once the changeover to Lua is complete. They currently have some errors showing up without the need of the css changes. So, maybe you two had the "old" version cached somehow while I didn't.
Module talk:Citation/CS1/Error checking has a listing of all the errors the new module currently checks. There is also Help:CS1 errors. Bgwhite (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm all for blaming it on the cache! I'm not sure I like all the red. While some highlight problems that need to be fixed in order for all the proper data to be displayed, others could continue to be quietly wrong (such as references that contain |curly=y). GoingBatty (talk) 22:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

EdinBot

Thank you for your notification. And you are completely right: the output is written to en.wiki instead of bs.wiki. I was already wondering why I didn't get any output. Sorry for this! I hope the block can be undone. Thank again! Regards. -- Edinwiki (talk) 02:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Found the issue and fixed it. Everything seems fine right now. Thanks. -- Edinwiki (talk) 02:36, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Great - thanks for the quick response! GoingBatty (talk) 02:37, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

MI

Do we have an estimate of how many pages still use the old style of Multiple Issues? -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:11, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't - Maybe someone could add a tracking category or use a toolserver query or a database dump? GoingBatty (talk) 22:51, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Anything would do. I expect the numbers to go down but the question is how fast. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
I just updated 650+ articles, with another 300 or so to do. GoingBatty (talk) 04:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Finished updating the MI templates that had |rewrite=, with another 120+ articles updated. GoingBatty (talk) 00:45, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

AFT5 re-enabled

Hey GoingBatty :). Just a note that

the Article Feedback Tool, Version 5 has now been re-enabled. Let us know on the talkpage if you spot any bugs. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:51, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Another CongLink bot needed

You did such a great job on the washpo problem, here's another one. Hope it's easy for you to just modify what you did earlier. Note the change in the votesmart param value. Anything with an alpha value no longer works, and there's no way to convert it. So again, it needs to be blanked. 184.78.81.245 (talk) 17:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I just posted on Template talk:CongLinks#Votesmart parameter to make sure there's support for this request before beginning. I've seen a few well-meaning bot operators start working on a request only to find out later that there wasn't consensus to do so, so I'm being extra cautious. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 Doing... GoingBatty (talk) 02:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 Done GoingBatty (talk) 18:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! 184.78.81.245 (talk) 18:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Crashing project taggings by bot

Hello GoingBatty. If you check this edit and this edit, you'll notice that your bot "crashed" the project tags by removing the "1=" part, which means that the project tags were no longer visible and the articles disappeared from their projects! I noticed these two because I follow

WP:SWEDEN, and I've rolled backed these two edits. If you've done more of these, I'd recommend you to clean up the mess, and be a bit more careful about how you use bot edits in the future. Regards, Tomas e (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Please note that BattyBot didn't remove a 1= it added it. The actual problem was that in both cases the {{
WikiProjectBannerShell
}}
ended with
|}}
instead of a simple
}}
The spurious pipe sets the first positional parameter to a blank; removing it, as here, will fix the {{
WikiProjectBannerShell}} for the future. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:17, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Tomas e - thanks for letting me know. My problem was not excluding pages that already had {{
WikiProjectBannerShell
}} before working the list. I will be more careful in the future.
Redrose64 - thanks for figuring out the issue. Interesting thet that WPBS template seemed to work before my bot's edit, even though the template wasn't formatted per the documentation. I'll report the AWB bug. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
I reviewed the bot's last 8,000 edits and couldn't find another example of a talk page that contained the text "WikiProject Architecture" but was not appropriately categorized. Therefore, I won't be asking the AWB developers to fix something that should be rare. GoingBatty (talk) 20:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Bot to remove redundant "multiple issues" tags

Hi there,

I wanted to draw your attention to a comment I posted at Template talk:Multiple issues#Bot to remove redundant "multiple issues" tags, as it concerns something that you worked on last year and thought you might have valuable input on it this time around. Thanks! sroc (talk) 07:53, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up - running the bot task now. GoingBatty (talk) 17:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
No worries! Thanks! sroc (talk) 23:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 Done - over 300 articles fixed. GoingBatty (talk) 23:30, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Btw, GoingBatty, I fixed a bug that caused multiple multiple issues tags on pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Excellent - thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Old error for Template:Advert

Hi, Going. I don't know if you know about (or have fixed) this problem which broke the {{advert}} template. I think it was doing a 's/\|article//' which should have been 's/\|article\|/\|/' --Redrose64 (talk) 16:31, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

No, I hadn't fixed this issue, so thanks for letting me know. Removing "article" from most templates is OK, but not with {{advert}}, unless you add |2= to the next parameter. Therefore, I'll play it safe and not remove it anymore. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Lua cites still have new red messages

There are some who think the new red-error messages in the

wp:VPP
policy discussion, about the cite accessdate/url error messages:

You might want to join that discussion, or not, and this is just a reminder that the topics are being discussed in a wider forum. Feel free to comment, or delete this reminder if too busy. Just FYI. -Wikid77 (talk) 22:38, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on that discussion - thanks for the heads up. I've done some bot runs to try to clear up some of the error messages, and would be willing to do more if there are patterns you're seeing. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:22, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: George Harrison

This is a note to let the main editors of

Bencherlite (talk · contribs)), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 4, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions
. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Harrison at the White House, 1974

the band's break-up in 1970, Harrison released several best-selling singles and albums as a solo performer, and in 1988 co-founded the platinum-selling supergroup the Traveling Wilburys. A prolific recording artist, he was featured as a guest guitarist on tracks by Badfinger, Ronnie Wood and Billy Preston, and collaborated on songs and music with Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton and Tom Petty, among others. He also organized the 1971 Concert for Bangladesh with Ravi Shankar, a precursor to later benefit concerts such as Live Aid. Harrison was also a music and film producer, founding Dark Horse Records in 1974 and co-founding HandMade Films in 1978. (Full article...
)

 Done - thanks for the heads up! GoingBatty (talk) 02:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

AWB feature request

Could you go thru your feature requests and see if any can be removed.... trying to clean the feature request page. Boy you do complain alot. :) Bgwhite (talk) 04:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

  1. When maintenance templates immediately follow section header, change to section template
  2. When changing "b." to "born", add Category:xxxx births
  3. Birth dates with "c."
  4. Do not include unimportant prefixes in DEFAULTSORT
  5. Disambiguate {{dn|wikilink}}
  6. Change {{cite web}} to {{cite news}}
  7. Fix whitespace before/after punctuation
  8. Expand date format corrections per WP:DATESNO
  9. Change "Main Articles" to Main|xxx|yyy
  10. Allow non-bots to use Auto Shutdown feature
  11. Include more additions/changes in edit summary
  12. Expand template redirect functionality to talk pages (zeroth section only)
  13. Provide alert for invalid citation parameters in templates other than Cite web
  14. Alert: Stub category directly added
  15. remove {{Uncategorized}} when categories exist
  16. Add {{cat improve}} when only categories are Living people, births, deaths
  17. Add {{Cleanup-HTML}}
  18. Add {{cleanup-link rot}}
  19. Change {{unreferenced section}} to {{refimprove section}}
  20. Populating PLACE OF BIRTH to Persondata
  21. Remove categories if Persondata populated
  22. Consolidate multiple {{Redirect}} templates
  23. Consolidate multiple {{Commons category}} templates into {{Commons category multi}}
  24. Move infobox above article text
  25. Remove DEFAULTSORT if no longer needed
  26. Typo fixing for wikilinks to redirects
  27. Move maintenance templates above infobox
The bugs are the complaints, not the requests.  :-) I've archived a few where it seems that there is not consensus. If we get rid of Persondata, then a few more become moot. For the rest, I'd like to get a response from the developers or users, and I'm in no rush. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
And just why don't we get rid of persondata template insertion and all the associated stuff?

I see that we're removing cite news in favour of cite web... surely these serve slightly different functions, and not all websites are news sites? -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 02:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Ohconfucius - I don't think we've reached the point where consensus is that we don't need {{Persondata}} anymore, although that may be coming soon. I'm not suggesting any removal of {{cite news}} - I just withdrew an old request to develop logic to convert {{cite web}} to {{cite news}} in some circumstances. GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Bgwhite - Another reason to withdraw FRs would be if the issue they would fix is rare. Any help you could provide to determine how many pages would be fixed by my suggestions would be helpful. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Ohconfucius - Persondata "should die" when Wikidata fully comes online. Right now there are arguments on how to put Wikidata fields into infoboxes. I'm not aware (that doesn't mean there isn't) any bots importing data from infoboxes and persondata into Wikidata. I have seen talks about adding data via bots in the past. There are some bots doing minor things... Category is about women physicists, so bot adds person as female. Wikidata:Bots contains a list of active bots, but it is hard to get info. Interwiki code could also be removed, but 300,000 articles still have interwiki links that can't be moved by bots. Oh joy.
GoingBatty - I asked Magioladitis to go thru his requests too. Next step is to find what has been fixed, won't ever be fixed or is a rare case. Then need to organize what is left into something... high/medium/low priority, hard/medium/easy to fix or something to be determined. This will need input from all of us. Bgwhite (talk) 05:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much for your help at Freedom for the Thought That We Hate

Thanks for your formatting help at Freedom for the Thought That We Hate, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 04:23, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Wow - that was fast! You're welcome! GoingBatty (talk) 04:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, well, the page is under a lot of scrutiny right now so I'm trying to be as responsive as possible. :) Thanks again for all your help, — Cirt (talk) 04:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey =) Just in regards to my edit on the 111th Congress page (very long caption); yea, I realized and was worried about it - I decided to go with it since it seemed to fit in on the page alright + it's mostly a matter, I think, of the number of seat changes making it hard to convey that whilst 59:41 gives an accurate impression overall, the critical 60 seat threshold was temporarily obtained (see: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act). I felt it was very important to make that clear? Sb101 (talk) 03:47, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sb101 - thanks for the info. I don't think Yobot was expecting that kind of caption, so we will see what the bot operator says. GoingBatty (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject banner excluded

Hi, with this edit, BattyBot moved {{

WikiProjectBannerShell}}. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I updated

Edits in Windows 8?

Hi.

Could you please give me an explanation of what were you trying to do in Windows 8 article? Removing |work= and putting the work title in |publisher= field? I don't know about you but I am certainly going dizzy looking at those edits.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 15:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lisa! My goal was to clean up the references in the
WP:ITALICS. I'll analyze the edits and start some discussions to see where we go from here. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:51, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I was also attempting to make the date formats consistent. I apologize that wasn't included in the edit summary. GoingBatty (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
That article is a mess from a formatting point of view. The scripts can only do so much. -- Ohc digame / ¿que pasa? 02:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello.
  • Look, I am not opposed to date consistency, but I'd appreciate if you don't forget an edit summary when it comes to this controversial issue. We talk and talk and every time have a consensus that Windows 8 does not have any strong national ties to U.S. and that is in fact the secret of its success but then every now and then, some guy pops out of nowhere and changes the date styles to his own heart content on one pretext or another. So, please, make an independent edit, and provide your evidence in edit summary.
  • Back to our own subject: Why did you remove the |work= replaced its contents with |publisher=? You say you were following Help:Citation Style 1? Alright, that document gives this example:

|work=Amazon.com and |publisher=Amazon
|newspaper=The New York Times and |publisher=The New York Times Company

Please correct me if I am wrong but this is the opposite of what you did.
Oh, and I know that reverting may sometimes seem a brutal thing to do, especially after all the time you spent doing those edits but I assure you, I am ready to listen too, not just revert.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 14:04, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
  • The script should actually be changing these as follows:

|work=Amazon.com -> |publisher=Amazon.com note: websites are not italicised
|publisher=Amazon [unchanged] note: no such thing as Amazon (company is known as Amazon.com, Inc., and the script ignores it
|newspaper=The New York Times [unchanged]
|publisher=The New York Times Company [removed] note: publisher is removed as it is not required for periodicals

-- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 14:47, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello. To put it bluntly, I think that is a very stupid thing to do. Why misrepresent a work as a publisher and violate Help:Citation Style 1 at the same time too? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 15:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello again
I read about your script a bit and it seems to me you are trying to delete valuable citation info to fix a simple italicization. With all due respect, it is the most unwise course of action. Consider reporting the issue to the proper venue for a template code that does not produce italicization where applicable. As far as the consensus goes, however, I do not condone such blunt measures to accomplish so little.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 15:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
The deletions are not coded in with the intention of fixing the italicisation issue; they are because the information is not necessary. AFAIK, there is a 'fix' to toggle italicisation, but that is not regarded as proper usage and is certainly not written in anywhere. Help:Citation Style 1 is rather non-specific as to the precise italicisation issue, but it seems to have been considered in much greater depth at
WT:ITALIC. There is no consensus to universally italicise new media sites, and I believe those that have been changed have gone through individual discussions; my script is adjusted to align names and italicisations according to our own naming conventions. As to "I do not condone such blunt measures to accomplish so little", I am trying to do that to hundreds of references to hundreds of articles to ensure consistency. If you can give me a hand sharpening the "blunt instrument" further, that would be much appreciated. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 06:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I'd be glad to do that but first, what is the fix to toggle the italicization? Then, please study my message below and let's see how the situation should be handled. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 06:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
@
WP:BRD
- I was bold, you reverted, now we're discussing:
  • I asked for assistance at Help talk:Citation Style 1#Please help make documentation consistent. Input from both of you would be appreciated.
  • Changing the dates without an edit summary was an failure on my part to use Ohconfucius' scripts properly. I wanted to change all the dates to mdy (since it appeared that was the primary format in the article), but hesitated when I say {{use dmy dates}}. In my effort to click the browser's back arrow to revert that portion of my editing before saving, I accidentally saved the date changes without an appropriate edit summary. This is my fault, and I apologize for this poor edit. I see that another user changed most of the dates to mdy, and you didn't revert it, so I made a few more date-related edits with descriptive edit summaries.
  • My remaining question is whether "ZDNet" and "CNET" belong in the |work= or |publisher= field - i.e. should they be italicized or not. Although
    ZDNet and CNET do not italicizes the names, which is consistent with Ohconfucius' script. Where's the best place to have this discussion? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:14, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
(
SourceForge.net download pages, etc. Well, yes. This problem should be addressed at {{Cite web}} level, not article. Additionally, we can employ {{Citation}} to write the work name without italicizing it.

I urge you and User:Ohconfucius to take this issue to {{Cite web}} talk page or village pump. Since this is a genuine concern I would be glad to participate as well. The course of action that I think we need to follow is to have |work-n=. Alternatively, we can propose "work" to be italicized in all citations, regardless of the nature of the work. (In both cases, it can be argued that it would be abused. The counterargument is: no more and no less than it is now being abused.)

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 06:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I wasn't talking about foisting; we propose and try to persuade consensus in fair ways. In Wikipedia, laws aren't etched on stone (or stone tablets); as long as one rule is not a policy, editors have wide latitude to bend it wherever common sense dictates. In this case, the common sense says dumping information that immensely help recovering from linkrot (just because of some technical peculiarity with italicization) is unwise. Extremely unwise. This is exactly the angle which I'd emphasize to persuade a consensus, as opposed to the fait acompli foisting. But I am also ready give credit to the person who has written the original document for having understood the issue. Having assumed good faith in him or her, this seems logical. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 13:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
@Codename Lisa: - I agree that dumping information that would immensely help recovering from link rot is extremely unwise. However, I don't agree that someone with a reference containing |newspaper=The New York Times is going to be unable to recover from link rot if we remove the publisher to make the References section more readable. Back to my edit to the Windows 8 article that you reverted, if one of the ZDNet or CNET references stopped working, how would |publisher=CBS Interactive help you recover? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:54, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Alarics is more than welcome to voice his opinion in Wikipedia just as we all are but at least in this case I am not taking it for the gospel. The counterargument is that in many cases like News Center / Microsoft,Threat Response Center / Symantec, Technical Library / Brigham Young University, we need both the |publisher= and the |work=. (In all three, link rot recovery is almost impossible if one piece is missing.) In addition, there are people in favor of consistency, who believe for consistency's sake, both |publisher= and |work= should be present at all the times. (@Nikkimaria: I believe you had a similar opinion?)
To summarize, both publisher and work are at least sometimes needed (if not always) and I do not agree with your script removing them. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 06:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
For the purposes of the script, I'm not treating any of your above examples as "
periodicals", so the publisher will not be removed (Hell, the script doesn't treat them at all). You debatably class them as 'works'. You are one of the rare ones as I don't think many people would agree with you.

The linkrot problem you pointed out is that '[Microsoft] News Center', '[Symantec] Threat Response Center', '[Brigham Young University] technical library' are just too generic with the establishment name left off for anyone to identify the units concerned. However, the risk of not finding replacement links is overstated as it is still possible to remedy linkrot as the establishment name is relatively easy to find by following the url. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 08:32, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. It appears the purpose of the message is getting lost. First, I am not classing them as "works", I am referring to |work= and its aliases like |newspaper=. Second, you are assuming that links are always something like "somesite.com/work_name/subfolder/articlename". Wrong! Sometimes links are like "somesite.com/id=xxxxxx". Third, what do I care if you are going or not going to insert publisher into citations from periodicals! As long as your script does not move "News Center" to |publisher=, I am fine. As for inserting or not inserting |publisher=CBS Interactive from a citation with |work=CNET, it is a matter of optional style and subject to
MOS:STABILITY. The rule is simple: Do not fix what is already correct. Last, remember that the subject of discussion here is "Edits in Windows 8". Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 10:39, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Responses as follows. I'd say there was no problem on most of them:
  1. our understanding of 'work' parameter seems to be the same
  2. I don't care much for what links look like, my script doesn't touch any that are in the |url=
  3. my script does not move "News Center" to |publisher=, although it doesn't belong, in my opinion; I might consolidate these manually to |publisher=Microsoft News Center
  4. I don't usually revisit an article, so minor changes (without being reverted) will not trigger any reaction from me.
  5. I may change things that are already correct, usually only if I'm able to make them better.
  6. I am not specifically interested in Windows 8 over other articles, technical or otherwise.
Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 16:59, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

The da Vinci Barnstar
To GoingBatty: in consideration of your fine efforts to improve WP from a technical standpoint; your general good humour and cooperativeness. and thanks also for your continued help with improving my scripts!  Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Ohconfucius! I think the scripts are great, and make it much easier to make article references consistent within an article. Keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 02:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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  • * 1980 ''[[Touch and Go (1980 film)|}}'' film, as Frank Butterfield, first film as leading male character

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Geza Szavai

Dear GoingBatty,

It is about the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9za_Sz%C3%A1vai; I am wondering if the notoces on top coul be removed because that is all the information and links I could get of the person in English and also, his original Hungarian page is linked as reference.

Thank you!

Karoly Gersi — Preceding unsigned comment added by GKaroly (talkcontribs) 05:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

@GKaroly: I added a link from Szekler Sabbatarians to Géza Szávai, which was enough to remove the {{orphan}} tag from Géza Szávai. However, it would be great it you could find additional Wikipedia articles where you could add links to Géza Szávai. The remaining {{no footnotes}} template is asking you to create inline citations using the references and external links that you already have in the article. I also made some formatting changes and typo fixes in the article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:26, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Something fishy

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

For your mainspace article contribution at The actual link, if it is not your user talk page; type out the full link. Kind regards, and happy editing. VQuakr (talk) 03:33, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Oops - sorry about that! I used a {{Message}} box on someone's talk page who didn't have the correct link parameter set. I've fixed their talk page so future people don't make the same silly mistake I did. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:43, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

BattyBot and the edit filter

BattyBot is hitting an edit filter here, and seems to enjoy running directly into brick walls repeatedly. The bot should fail gracefully when this happens. --Chris 08:41, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

It's obvious that you noticed the problem. I've fixed the offending line so it should pull out of the loop. I hope you are working on some kind of rate limiter for edits that are blocked by edit filters.—Kww(talk) 14:59, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit filter

Check changelog. We may already doing it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:01, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision Properly skips page when edit filter yields hookaborted errors -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:03, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: - I see you've added this to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/History. I tried compiling my own SVN, ran into problems, and posted to Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Sources. Looking forward to a reply there and to seeing a new SVN posted. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks everyone! When I saw the talk page message, I tried a few more things, reported an AWB bug and a edit filter false positive. But by the time I came back here to report my progress, all of you had already replied. I tried the edit again, and it went through just fine. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

User rights

I've added reviewer and rollbacker to your acct after seeing your request. INeverCry 01:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

"Trustworthy and experienced user"???? I don't know about that INeverCry. All Batty ever does is do minor tweaks with AWB. You can't trust even one AWB tweaker. Watch out Batty, I've got my eye on you. Bgwhite (talk) 04:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
LOL! -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 07:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey, at least I'm not one of those guys obsessed with Checkwiki fixes. GoingBatty (talk) 22:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

J-20 page is being vandalized again by trolls

Dear GoingBatty please protect J-20 page again. I just removed some troll materials. It seems that the same troll from Canada is vandalizing the page again.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.71.58.38 (talk) 00:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, so I can't protect a page. Please try Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Be sure to mention the entire article name, as there's a difference between J-20 and Chengdu J-20.
In the future, please add new sections to the bottom of talk pages, not the top. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:59, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the sharp eye

Thanks for catching and fixing my typo in the Typos, old pal. How embarrassing. Chris the speller yack 03:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

A lot less embarrassing than having the typo in the "replace" section, which is where mine usually end up! GoingBatty (talk) 03:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

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 Fixed article. GoingBatty (talk) 00:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Compiling AWB source code

Hi, regarding your comment here. (I am assuming you are using Windows 7) If when building AWB using SharpDevelop it gives you an error about Windows SDK, then you should download Win SDK from here. The installation wizard will give you options to download several components. It is enough to download the component about .NET framework. It is only 73 MB if I remember correctly. Don't forget to also download .NET framework 4.5 from here. Building AWB in SharpDevelop should now work fine. Enjoy. --Meno25 (talk) 12:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Updated instructions are at User:Bgwhite/Sandbox. Yell if you find any mistakes or if there should be additions. I'll copy it over to the permanent spot after you two go over it. Bgwhite (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Note: AWB is developed under .Net 2.0, so you don't need the latest version of .NET. Bgwhite (talk) 19:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you both for your help. I've gotten farther along, but now I'm stuck in a different place:
  • Installed the latest version of TortoiseSVN and got the sources just fine.
  • SharpDevelop gave me an error about Windows SDK, so I downloaded from the link above and installed.
  • Installing Windows SDK gave me an error about .NET framework 4.5, so I downloaded from the link above and installed successfully.
  • Installed Windows SDK successfully.
  • Downloaded SharpDevelop again and ran a repair installation.
  • Ran SharpDevelop, clicked on File -> Open -> Project/Solution, and opened the "AutoWikiBrowser no plugins" solution file.
  • Got an error on AWBWebBrowser.cs stating "Error loading code-completion information for Microsoft.mshtml from Microsoft.mshtml: Could not find assembly file."
Any suggestions? GoingBatty (talk) 02:07, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't see this message earlier. This problem comes under "NET version 4.0 and greater will work, but will require a slight modification to AWB's code". Net < 4.0 came with Microsoft.mshtml. Microsoft.mshtml is used to render an article when you hit "preview". As it no longer comes with the library, we have to get it from windows.
  1. On the left hand pane in SharpDevelop, find "AWBWebBrowser.cs" and double click. It is under the "AutoWikiBrowser 'folder'". This will open it up in the edit window.
  2. One line #2, change "using mshtml;" to "using MSHTML;". Then save the file.
  1. Now the harder part. On the left pane again under the "AutoWikiBrowser 'folder'", the first folder is "References". Expand it.
  2. The folder should contain things like, "System", "System.configuration" and "System.drawing". I can't remember the exact name, but there should be one with mshtml in the title. Right click on that and delete it.
  3. Right click on the "References" folder and click on "Add a reference". A new screen should pop up.
  4. Click on the "COM" tab.
  5. Scroll down till you find "Microsoft HTML Object Library". Click on it. Click the "Select" button. Click "OK".
  6. Under the "References" folder, a new line should be there called "MSHTML"
You should be able to compile the code now. It will give off some "errors" and it takes a bit the first time. You won't have to do this procedure again... You can update the code via SVN and compile. The changes will still be there. Bgwhite (talk) 05:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: - This worked perfectly - I'm now running AWB 9244 - thanks so much!
Would you like some help updating your sandbox instructions? GoingBatty (talk) 23:30, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes Please. You just went thru it so it is fresh in your mind. I moved it to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Sources and added a few things based on what you said. Feel free to do whatever. Glad that you got it to compile. Especially nice to have more eyes looking at the new changes before it goes out to the world... Even if you are some degenerate that refuses to work on Checkwiki. Bgwhite (talk) 03:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Recent edits

This edit has removed a load of work and publisher parameters which shouldn't be removed.  — AARONTALK 23:34, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Aaron! The edit deleted a lot of duplicate and unnecessary parameters - see User:Ohconfucius/script/Sources for the objectives and principles behind this edit. Which parameters in particular do you think should have been retained? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
All of the Billboard and Digital Spy publishers. They should never be removed. I was going to undo your edit, but it did correct the majority of them. I thought it would be better to come here first and tell you about the minority which are now wrong.  — AARONTALK 23:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Template:Cite web#Publisher states that the publisher is "not normally included for periodicals". Therefore, |publisher=Prometheus Global Media is not needed for |work=Billboard. I suspect that Ohconfucius is using a similar rationale for removing |publisher=Hearst Corporation from |work=Digital Spy. GoingBatty (talk) 00:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
But everyone always includes them.  — AARONTALK 00:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
No, not everyone includes them. GoingBatty (talk) 00:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
I don't know anyone that doesn't.  — AARONTALK 00:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Ah, that's a big difference. :-) Come see Featured articles AC/DC, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, John Mayer, Kylie Minogue, Nirvana (band), The Notorious B.I.G., and Pink Floyd for a few examples. GoingBatty (talk) 00:35, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
I've done FAC and FLC a lot of times and no one has ever said that they shouldn't be included.  — AARONTALK 00:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Just because "everyone" includes them
doesn't mean that they should be included. There are a few editors going around populating these fields out of some mistaken belief that they are useful, but that doesn't make the information useful. After that, it's 'monkey see monkey do'. And when they do, population of the field is wholly inconsistent: some put in 'Prometheus', some put in 'Nielsen Business' in some form, so it gets highly confusing even for those who take notice of these. Billboard is well known enough to avoid needing its publisher filled in notwithstanding the instruction per citation documentation not to. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 00:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
If I've ever forgotten to add them though, I've also been told to add them in. More people, according to who I know and what I see on a daily basis, include them. Nielsen is older, Prometheus is newer, depending on when the information was published.  — AARONTALK 00:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Next time you get told to add them, I'd like to know, so we can thrash it out. I see you're confused too. Prometheus isn't necessarily 'older' or 'newer'. It's all a part of the corporate holding chain, but these are details that detract from (and not add to) the use of Billboard as a source. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 00:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Just made this edit to Mariah Carey, which added |work=Billboard with no publisher. Let's see if anyone adds a publisher. GoingBatty (talk) 01:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
FYI,
e5 Global Media, which was renamed in 2010 to Prometheus Global Media." GoingBatty (talk) 01:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I would obviously add it in.  — AARONTALK 13:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Good old Klaus

Hi GB, how goes it? Quick question: I've trawled back through the edit history for The Concert for Bangladesh and discovered you added a category citing Klaus Voormann as having created the album's artwork, or having had a hand in it – can I ask where you got this info? I've always understood this album's packaging to have been a Camouflage Partners creation, from start to finish, and I can't see an artwork credit for Klaus on the 2005 reissue. So I'm intrigued – on the other hand, I'll be happy to admit it if I'm wrong of course! Best, JG66 (talk) 12:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

@JG66: - Thanks for contacting me about this edit. Wikipedia:Categorization#Articles says "It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories." Since that's obviously not the case here, and I can't find any references off hand to support it, I've reverted my edit. If I come across something later, I'll add a reference in the article to support the categorization. Thanks for taking the time to contact me! GoingBatty (talk) 02:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, GoingBatty, it's always a pleasure doing (wiki)business with you. You could well have been right about Klaus's contribution, perhaps in the 2005 reissue – I'll keep looking. Oh, and just to let you know, I will be revisiting those lists of cover versions for Harrison songs "My Sweet Lord" and "Isn't It a Pity", which we spoke about last time around. (It was only your raising the issue re notability of each cover version, followed by some more recent song article GARs, that set me straight and made me see the error of my approach previously! This might not make much sense, all these months later, I realise ...) Cheers, GB! JG66 (talk) 10:33, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Mike and the Paramounts

Hello Going Batty!! I'M Mike Nelson from "Mike and the Paramounts" It is very nice to meet you even though it's the computer screen.Thank Yo for your E-Mail!! I don't understand yet how to set up a page. Here is some information so far:

MIKE and the Paramounts History. “TWIST & SHOUT” b/w “DOO-WHA-DIDDY” 45 RPM RECORD Recorded June 20th 1976 Groove Records

Mike Nelson (Born 1-8- 1960) is the Lead Singer of “Mike and the Paramounts” The POP group consisted of four young men. Lead Singer Mike Nelson ,16 years old, Scott Mesa, 17 years old, Jerome Mathers, 16 years old and Stephen Bettencourt, 17 years old. The group was hand chosen by the “Kings Entertainment” Co. via auditions Held in Hollywood.. Over 200 kids auditioned in May 1976 for the job. The four mentioned were chosen to become “ Mike and the Paramounts. Mike Nelson was chosen to be the lead singer because of his Power House vocals according to Producers. It was Americas 1976 Bicentennial Celebration. Mike and the Paramounts were selected to perform at Theme Parks in Anaheim, Los Angeles And through out California to help celebrate the event. On June 2Oth 1976 Mike and the Paramounts record the “Twist & Shout” song for The Groove record label. The 45 rpm single was a double “A” sided record. The flip Side also featured Mike Nelson’s lead vocals with Doo-Wha-Diddy. Another popular cover song. Both were A to B Recordings using no“Auto Tune” because it did not exist in 1976. Lead Singer Mike Nelson and the Paramounts nail the song in only three takes. The flip side of the record,”Doo-Wha-Diddy” also was recorded in only three takes on the same day. The record had only limited release in Anaheim and Southern Calif. “ Mike and the Paramounts” performed all around Southern California the summer of 1976. Screaming Fans loved the power of Mike Nelson’s voice and all of the energy of the Paramounts. Their costumes mostly consisted of bright orange leisure suits with yellow shirts and super wide collars. (Very 70”s) After the Summer of 1976 ended.” Mike and the Paramounts” were offered a real record contract to record an album and two more singles. However the boys all had to decline the offer because of their families and school commitments. Sadly what could have been a good career for the boys had to end because of this. The boys all split-up and went their separate ways. In 2012 Mike Nelson once again proved he still had the voice and put out an independent single of his own. “Jessie’s Girl” is the song and by Mike Nelson’s decision to stay loyal to the group, The record says it was performed by “Mike and the Paramounts”.Even though Mike Nelson sings all of the tracks.

Thank You for your Attention. Chechk out the records on U-Tube. Please E-Mail with more instructions. [email protected] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.169.211.4 (talk) 05:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mike! You might want to visit
Wikipedia:Your first article, where it discusses notability guidelines and specifically says "Do not create pages about yourself, your company, your band or your friends..." Since "the record had only limited release in Anaheim and Southern Calif", it's probably not notable enough to mention in the "Twist and Shout" article, unless you are able to provide references that would be reliable sources that are independent from you and the band. (e.g. newspaper articles, chart performance). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
P.S. You may also want to read

AWB bar

I just reverted you change as that wiped out where to get the technical and source code information. It was labeled "Documentation" and was renamed to "Technical"

It has been my headache for the past few days. It started on my talk page and went downhill starting at User talk:The Transhumanist#AWB documentation. Looks like his M.O. is to go in and rearrange everything without asking any comments or questions. He means well. Joy.

I forgot to mention. You thanked me for my comment about the watchlist page. You may want to look at User:Bgwhite/vector.css. I remove alot of "unnecessary" wording from the edit window and else where. My User:Bgwhite/vector.js has one that removes the left sidebar. I sometimes need to blow up windows so I can read better. Having less "clutter" makes more room to see the page's content. Bgwhite (talk) 06:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

@Bgwhite: - On Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Technical there's the "Technical" section in the AWB header, and the "Source code" link in the new header. However, it seems that most of the AWB pages do not have both of these headers, so I'm OK with you reverting my edit.
I'll have to check out your files. I'm trying out User:Ais523/catwatch.js, but haven't yet figured out how to get it to recognize that I have the category watchlist set up. What I was really looking for was a way to add a link to the watchlist that's the equivalent of the article revision history "cur" button that shows everything that was changed since my list visit. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:46, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

New alerts feature in AWB.

"Now we turn on/off alerts to make searching for certain errors much faster and easier." -- Magioladitis

To turn on/off certain alerts, goto Options -> Preferences -> Alerts. Bgwhite (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

@
WP:AWB
yet, so I downloaded the sources.
I see the new Alerts tab, and noted that it takes two clicks on a checkbox to turn it off - one to switch to that line, and one to change the box from checked to unchecked.
I'd like to uncheck the alerts for my bot's various settings files, but don't want to save those settings as my default. :-( GoingBatty (talk) 02:41, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Not sure what you are saying about "but don't want to save..." I'm slow... CheckWiki work makes me even dumber. I actually don't have a "default". I have multiple profiles based upon what I'll be doing. Each profile has a different settings file. Bgwhite (talk) 06:55, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I have a default settings profile and many other settings profiles depending on what I'm doing. I would like to turn off the alerts for some of my bot settings profiles without impacting my default settings profile. GoingBatty (talk) 12:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

for fixing the bracket prob in Joseph Mawle that I couldn't for the life of me see. Manytexts (talk) 03:48, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure! GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks

Thanks for the thanks, and thanks from me to you too. (I just don't know how to send or respond to that fancy notification thingy.) --Lawfare (talk) 17:49, 25 June 2013 (UTC) @

Wikipedia:Notifications allow people to directly respond to a thanks message, so I'm happy you did it the old fashioned way :-) Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, GoingBatty, you requested a copy-edit to the template above on the GOCE Request page. Since it's being considered for deletion, and GOCE isn't for templates, I've put the request on hold until we know the result of the deletion discussion. If this was a mistake please let us know and someone will remove the request. Cheers,

@
Baffle gab1978: - I appreciate you letting me know. I replied on the GOCE page. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:39, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, noted. I'll archive the request. Cheers,

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Nomination of Tom Crabtree (journalist) for deletion

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AWB Source

Hi,

I saw your well done help and I can go to the step 9. But I've this error for the compile:

Task failed because "resgen.exe" was not found, or the correct Microsoft Windows SDK is not installed. The task is looking for "resgen.exe" in the "bin" subdirectory beneath the location specified in the InstallationFolder value of the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0A. You may be able to solve the problem by doing one of the following: 1) Install the Microsoft Windows SDK. 2) Install Visual Studio 2010. 3) Manually set the above registry key to the correct location. 4) Pass the correct location into the "ToolPath" parameter of the task. (MSB3091)

So the file is not .exe. Do you have an idea of what I should do? I've ever installed Windows SDK, and I've installed .NET 4.0 because the name of Windows SDK is: Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4.0.

If you've an idea to do that, it would be great.

Thanks by advance, Automatik (talk) 01:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

@Automatik: - Not sure what you meant by "I've ever installed Windows SDK". GoingBatty (talk) 02:11, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for my English. I meant: I've installed Windows SDK. Automatik (talk) 08:33, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
@Automatik: - I had to install .NET 4.5 to get Windows SDK to install (see step #4). GoingBatty (talk) 04:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Astana

Hi. "istadan" in persian alphabet "ایستادن". Diako1971 10:22, 30 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diako1971 (talkcontribs)

@Diako1971: - I apologize that I reverted your edits to Astana when I reverted another editor's changes that broke the climate table. Thanks for redoing your edit. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:02, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

format script

autoFormatter. Magioladitis and TMg have been swapping Regexes between autoFormatter and AWB. There is even a Check Wikipedia page for it because I know you just love working on Check Wikipedia. Bgwhite (talk) 22:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

If I did Check Wikipedia all day, what would you and Magio do?  :-) GoingBatty (talk) 02:42, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Also, I'm concerned about the rule that states "Change the bad German date format 1.1.2000 to 1. Januar 2000." on enwp. GoingBatty (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
True, but I seem to have understood that that rule wasn't to be applied, but we should be careful that certain formatting applicable to de.wp should not be blindly copied to en.wp. -- Ohc ¡digame!¿que pasa? 13:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I left a note on TMg's German talk page to visit here. Bgwhite (talk) 20:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
It seems it would be better to have this conversation somewhere besides my talk page. Maybe create meta:User talk:TMg/autoFormatter? GoingBatty (talk) 20:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Guys, please. Either use the Meta talk page or simply post your concerns at de:User talk:TMg/autoFormatter (you can write English or German). Please note that my script was originally created for the German Wikipedia. I'm currently changing more and more rules to make them fit the English Wikipedia. This process is not finished. It would be great to get comments from users familiar with the English manual of style. If you want to use my script you should understand what the script does and what you can and should (not) do with it. Maybe I should make this more clear on the Meta page. --TMg 09:21, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
For the sake of completeness: I changed the date rule. It creates English dates now. The currency rule never was a problem. You know, we write "200 US$" in German and thats what my script fixes. It does not touch "US$200". --TMg 09:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

New AWB code

Greetings. I wanted to let you know I removed a chunk of code from the WikiProjects cleanup subpage. I don't think anyone was using it and it needs to be rewriting using the much safer RemoveTemplateParameter function. In the spirit of that, I have started building it. You can see the start here:

Hi
Its me again. I still have a long way to go but
Ok, I got the =no logic started but I still need to figure out how to account for multiple variations (No, no, N and n). I also added logic for removing duplicate parameters. I also merged in the logic at Magioladitis/WikiProject. There is still a lot that can/needs to be done but this is an ok start I think to build on. I will keep developing it as we go. Please let me know if you see anything that needs to be fixed or added.

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thanks for catching and fixing so many of my mistakes, not just lately, but also over the years. Also, thanks for being one of the most positive and helpful Wikipedians I've ever encountered! Cheers! GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:50, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks GabeMc! You're much better at improving the prose and finding the appropriate references. I'm happy that my minor tweaks here and there are helpful. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:25, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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JustBerry (talk) 11:59, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Bot error

Please amend Your bot is making containers that exclude some banners. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:53, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know - I've updated the AWB module at
WikiProject Concert Tours}} and will do a run tonight to fix each talk page with this banner. GoingBatty (talk) 11:27, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I found a similar error with it not including {{
maths banner}} in the talk page general fixes. Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 12:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
@
WikiProject Concert Tours}}, the solution is to convert the former to the latter and then run AWB's general fixes. However, since the maths templates don't redirect to a template that starts with "WikiProject", I responded on the AWB bugs page with a possible workaround. I won't run this bot task again until I've tested my workaround, hopefully tonight. GoingBatty (talk) 14:21, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
My proposal works - see this diff for an example of the edits I'm making now. GoingBatty (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
@Jamesmcmahon0: - I believe I've fixed all of my bot's edits that excluded the maths banners from WPBS, and I'm now running my bot against talk pages with one of the maths banners that do not yet have WPBS. Please let me know if you find any other issues that need to be addressed. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Looks good, will that work for anyone using AWB now? If so that's fantastic, if not still great that your bot will clean it up, thanks a lot Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 05:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
@Jamesmcmahon0: - Anyone using AWB could choose to set it up the same way I did to make these changes, but AWB still won't automatically suggest that the maths templates should be put inside WPBS. GoingBatty (talk) 11:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Policy development

You are more than welcome to comment on Ground rules.HotHat (talk) 07:31, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Help with my bot request

Hi, you suggested that my bot could run against Category:Stubs and then skip pages that were in any of the categories that I had suggested. How would I go about doing this? I've looked at some of the AWB documentation and had a bit of a play but I can only get it to check for one category at a time, i.e. it will only work on pages from Category:Living People but not Category:Living People OR Category:Year of death missing OR etc... Is there a way to do this without using Regex as I don't know how to write Regex. Thanks. Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 11:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Looked into it again and maybe Regex isn't so bad, I came up with this;
(\[\[Category:Year of birth missing\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of birth missing (living people)\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of birth unknown\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of birth uncertain|\[\[Category:Year of death missing\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of death unknown\]\]|\[\[Category:Year of death uncertain\]\]|\[\[Category:Living people\]\]|\[\[Category:Possibly living people\]\])
I should have chance to test it tomorrow but would appreciate your input if there's something obvious! Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 22:35, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
You can easily simplify it by doing this:
\[\[Category:(Year of birth|Year of death|Living people|Possibly living people)
GoingBatty (talk) 22:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Again, thanks a lot, I'll do some tests later then update my bot requests Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 05:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

AWB

Thanks again for all your help at the Ringo FAC. I've never ran AWB before and I tend to not be so good at technical stuff computer wise. I'm on Windows 8 now, will it still work and is there an easier way to explain how it works, or is this too tough for a novice like me? GabeMc (talk|contribs) 00:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

You're doing all the hard work at the FAC (and tons of work before the nomination) - I'm just trying to pick off some of the easy stuff. AWB has a ton of options, but you don't have to use them all. Try the four steps at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/User_manual#Basic_procedure, and let me know how it works out. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 00:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll try to see if I can figure that out, but in the meantime would you mind running an overlinking check at Jimi Hendrix please. Its at GAN right now and I have several overlinks that I can't find with my eyes. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 01:25, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 Done. GoingBatty (talk) 02:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Bummer - not done - we're edit conflicting again. GoingBatty (talk) 02:06, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I'll stay away until half past. Hope this isn't too much trouble. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:13, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 Doing... GoingBatty (talk) 02:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 Done! GoingBatty (talk) 02:39, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! You've saved me a lot of work so I hope I didn't cause you too much. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Glad I could be of assistance! GoingBatty (talk) 02:43, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to join a discussion

Through this way, I inform there is a discussion about partially disambiguated titles, known as "

WP:D was approved at VPP, in a discussion you participated. Note there was a discussion of PDAB at WT:D the last weeks (everything is explained in the RFC). You are welcome to give ideas about the future of this guideline at WT:D. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

New checkwiki page

I've been moving Checkwiki from toolserver to WMB labs. Information is located here. Could you take a look and report and bugs you find. Any suggestions, ideas for new bug reports, current bug reports that should be removed or anything else you can think of are needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgwhite (talkcontribs) 02:18, July 27, 2013

@Bgwhite: - When I go to this Check Wikipedia page and click one of the edit links, I get a page not found error. GoingBatty (talk) 14:30, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Grrr. One problem found, 304,483.4 problems to go. Thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 16:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: - The problem seems to be much bigger than I initially reported. When I go to the Check Wikipedia page for enwiki, click on any priority, click on any description, and then click on any edit link, I get the same page not found error. GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I had to make a change to the database to fix the "same article reported multiple times for the same error". That won't affect anything, but I thought if making one, might as well do it all. I dropped a column that wasn't being used, but it messed up the cgi script, which is what is causing the problems you are seeing. Also made another change to the database to help boost the speed.
On your original error you found. I've found the problem and have fixed it. It was using assumptions that are no longer valid in perl, by several years. That led to me importing code from the checkwiki script that will help speed things up more. Bgwhite (talk) 05:36, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Things should be working better. The main pages "should" be working fine. I haven't fixed some of the "side" pages yet, such as "list for bots" or "show all done". Bgwhite (talk) 08:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: - Yes, the edit links are working now. Now that Checkwiki is moving, does AWB need to be modified so that sources CheckWiki error and CheckWiki error (number) work with labs? Keep up the good work! GoingBatty (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
CheckWiki error source takes urls as input anyway. CheckWiki error (number) can be updated later. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: - Using https://tools.wmflabs.org/checkwiki/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi?project=enwiki&view=only&id=5 as the source URL doesn't work. Is it supposed to take the "List for bots", which isn't working? Speaking of that URL, there seems to be a problem preventing it from displaying all 27 articles. Also, you may want to change "0 bis 25" to "0 to 25". GoingBatty (talk) 15:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
AWB works with the list for bots and it grabs the first 500 entries. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: Should the number be changed from 500?
"0 bis 25" to "0 to 25"... What? You don't like the German? "...preventing it from displaying all 27 articles." The problem is the error id... Comment not correct end. A <!-- is displayed in the notice column, but with no closing comment tag, everything goes blank. Same thing goes on error #40, which show <font>. Bgwhite (talk) 04:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: 500 is the maximum number you could grab from the toolserver. I don't know if you could get a greater number in the Labs. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:35, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: 500 was hard set in the cgi program. It has no function of where it is located. When you click on "List for bots" the limit was 25, I've changed it to 500.

I've gone thru the cgi script and I think I've corrected everything. It's 3am, so my mind is probably playing tricks on me into thinking everything is working.

The issue raised about not all the errors showing up here has to be fixed in the main checkwiki program. I'll have it on my todo list for tomorrow's fun. Bgwhite (talk) 08:56, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Had to make it official

Gold Star for the Day
For strategically using wit and humor to make Wikipedia a better place, GoingBatty is ceremoniously awarded a Gold Star for the day. Thank you for your generous efforts helping Wikipedia. 64.40.54.39 (talk) 04:08, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! "With all of our running and all of our cunning/If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane" - Jimmy Buffet
GoingBatty (talk) 13:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

for this edit. I’m always doing that—but I promise I will try not to rely upon you picking up the error in future! Ian Spackman (talk) 16:16, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome - glad I could be of assistance. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Kellie Loder

Hi Batty,

Thank you for editing the Kellie Loder article. Because of your involvement with the article, I thought that you should be notified of the article's FAC. Any comments you would be willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated.

Neelix (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Use of Category:American novelists

Recently you added Category:American novelists to the Wikipedia article Greg Kihn. The current consensus for the use of this category is at the top of the Category:American novelists article. I removed the category and added Category:20th-century American novelists after checking the publication date of the novels listed in the article (all 20-century dates). Neonorange (talk) 21:44, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

@Neonorange: - Thanks for correcting my mistake. I've added Kihn's most recent novel and added Category:21st-century American novelists as well. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:29, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
I also added Category:American male novelists. GoingBatty (talk) 01:30, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the response and for letting me know your new additions! Neonorange (talk) 02:11, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

MailOnline

Please consult either Christian1985, Bbb23 or Collect before you make ANY changes to the MailOnline page.

Thankyou.


81.178.161.191 (talk) 14:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Why? Do you have an issue with my edit? GoingBatty (talk) 14:47, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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A poorly written, poorly sourced article.

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I'm not a significant contributor to the article, but don't mind the notice. It appears that the proposed deletion template has been removed from the article. I've made a few more minor changes to the article. GoingBatty (talk) 14:44, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Request

Hi, if you got the time to check out the refs for Leif "Loket" Olsson, as I am no good at combining refs. Much appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

@
Reflinks is an easy way to start - just be sure to double check the results before saving them, and do any cleanup afterwards. GoingBatty (talk) 15:15, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your assistans. Yes I will learn that from now on. Thank you. :)--BabbaQ (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
If you could do me one last favour and combine the refs on Meral Tasbas. Much appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Leif "Loket" Olsson