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Category:Television articles with disputed naming style is pleasingly small now – looks like there's just 10 entries left there! So at least we've made some real progress on this one.

However, Category:Television articles with incorrect naming style is up to over 900 entries. And I don't see much in the way of "low-hanging fruit" (i.e. easily "fixable" entries) left in here either. (Arguably, a number of these could be transferred from this cat to Category:Television articles with disputed naming style...) I'm not sure we're ever going to completely clear this one out. Ah, well... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:59, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

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The edits on the SFH page which you attribute both to me and to sloppy work ... weren't by me. I added 2 years of material to the DVD section, and that was all.

So if you're going to be snotty in edit descriptions, perhaps you should also work on accuracy.
-- [email protected] Baylink (talk) 03:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Sorry but you are completely wrong here. this is was your 2 succsieve edits. You added the following infobox errors:

• Using |show_name=
• Changed from correct "Spenser For Hire title screen.jpg" [[Image:Spenser For Hire title screen.jpg|220px]]
• Changed from correct "1987–88" to incorrect "1987-1988"
• Changed from correct {{start date|1985|9|20}} to incorrect "September 20, 1985"
• Removed the country from the lead
• Added the following red categories: Category:American Broadcasting Company network shows, Category:Boston, Massachusetts in fiction, Category:Television programs based on novels, Category:Television shows set in Boston, Massachusetts

I'm sure there are others but I'm not going to go over your entire edit. I'll accept your apology now. Gonnym (talk) 03:57, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

...you feel very strongly about these titling conventions, which is great. But you really don't need to be so blunt and unpleasant. Maybe as an alternative you could simply say - "moved page per <policy/MOS stanard>". TL;DR: It would be nice if you were kind to your fellow editors. --VersaceSpace 🌃 15:27, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

This isn't the first time I encounter AfD moves who just accept articles without doing the minimal check to see if the title is correct. That creates additional work for other editors that now have to clean up after. I might have been blunt, but I wasn't wrong. Looking over

WP:NCTV would have taken you 2 minutes to get familiar and pick a better disambiguation then the one you used. And that is only the title issue, the article itself had quite a few errors in it, so even the content itself wasn't fit for main space. Gonnym (talk

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The "additional work" in question being that you had to change a title (by one word)...doesn't seem very labor intensive. And the article's issues are quite standard for many articles in the mainspace. An article needing copy-editing shouldn't inhibit it from entering or being in the mainspace, much less so when the issues are in no more than a paragraph (you didn't fix them either).

Anyway, my point is that you don't need to be so rude. Instead of telling me I "should've taken two minutes" to read some guideline or policy you could tell me (kindly) how I could do better in the future — a much more collaborative way to do things. --VersaceSpace 🌃 15:47, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Anyway, my point is that you don't need to be so rude. Instead of telling me I "should've taken two minutes" to read some guideline or policy you could tell me (kindly) how I could do better in the future — a much more collaborative way to do things. In this conversation I wasn't rude at all yet dismiss your bad move which caused additional work, both with an additional page move and with many content fixes (some of which were just false or completely incorrect). Gonnym (talk) 15:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't doubt your intentions, but your mono-tone voice in comments and telling me I "should've taken two minutes" to read some guidelines absolutely comes off that way. I'm not a robot — some things could get past me, and yes, I may forget the occasional titling convention! I apologize, but I'd appreciate it if you could point out my in-corrections in a way that doesn't make it seem like you're going to fall and die because you have to make a few edits. --VersaceSpace 🌃 16:01, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hey, Gonnym,

Do you want me to delete these empty categories as CSD G7 and stop posting notices on your talk page or do you want to check each one out and tag it yourself? Either way is fine with me but I don't want to clutter up your talk pages with CSD notices if they are unwanted. Some editors who create a lot of categories in the process of their editing have asked me to tag them for CSD C1 but not to notify them as they have created hundreds of categories and don't particularly care when one of them was no longer needed. 01:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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July songs

Thank you for help with Cosima Wagner! I have pics from vacation days to offer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

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Precious

Seven years!

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Hello, Gonnym,

I just noticed that Category:Samara Metro rail succession templates was tagged as an empty category. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:49, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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Yeah, but, until/unless Draft:Everett K. Ross (Marvel Cinematic Universe) becomes an article, there is much more information about the character in film at the main article Everett K. Ross then the list article current targeted. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:10, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the Characters list has been suffering from a lack of quality in recent years, but the consensus regarding MCU-specific redirects has not changed. You are welcome to copy-and-paste that content over to the Characters list. InfiniteNexus (talk) 21:15, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

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Hi this is the original source 1 where the film Our Prime Minister is cited pls check if it works.

• 1. https://academic.oup.com/book/11288/chapter-abstract/159849298?redirectedFrom=fulltext

• 2. https://worldhistoryarchive.wordpress.com/2016/10/20/prime-minister-jawaharlal-nehru-very-rare-film/

Fostera12 (talk) 08:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey, I can't see the full text of the first link, but the second one is good as it even shows a film. Gonnym (talk) 08:51, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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Feel free to ping me if those categories are speedy renamed, and I'll be happy to adjust the template code so that pages get put into the new categories. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:12, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 19:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Gonnym,

You created a redirect on this page which another editor, now blocked, turned into a draft article. So, that's why you received this notice. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:21, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect#Redirect templates on soft redirects. Peter James (talk) 20:25, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Someone just moved the article on the Nelonen TV network to this disambiguation, which is certainly wrong. I'm guessing it should go to either Nelonen (TV channel) or Nelonen (Finnish TV channel), but either way I'll let you get this one... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:46, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Probably either Nelonen (TV channel) or Nelonen (TV network) (I've yet to understand when we choose which). Gonnym (talk) 13:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

My preference in a case like this is "TV channel". Netoholic is the one who is pushing to never use "TV channel", but he's wrong as many cable channels do not meet the true definition of a "TV network". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:16, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello Gonnym, you deleted a post saying that the sources were insufficient. Could you please indicate what was wrong with the sources? These are all published books, with the title and author's name. You can find them on Amazon, and if you read them, you will find the evidence for the changes that were added. Based on the instructions from this link, I don't see anything wrong in the sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_Wiki_Markup/4 Thank you, Please let me know GDP1985 (talk) 23:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey @GDP1985. There were quite a few issues with your edits. Some syntax related, some citation related.

Syntax related:

• See the section
  MOS:HEAD
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• In the entire section your usage of <br>...</br> is incorrect and has completely broken the page. Do you not see it?
• Also in that section, you are adding links to
  disambiguation pages
  . See Landi.
• Again, that section, you are using bold text when it shouldn't. See
  MOS:BOLD
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Citation related:

• WP:CITESTYLE
  says to use the same style already found on the page, your citation's aren't that.
• Additionally, your citations aren't helpful at all. You are saying the source is found in "I Cesi. Genealogia e Cronistoria di una Grande Famiglia Umbro-Romana, Edoardo Martinori", which is a 134 page book. You need to provide the page number (and more details). See Template:Cite book.
• Also, once you fix the above, you won't have 4 duplicate citations.

As a side note, and since I can't verify with what you gave, I find it strange that an error of 500 years for the founded date was in the article for so long. Gonnym (talk) 09:47, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Isn't this enough to add and prove it? Kailash29792 (talk) 02:11, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

The creators don't really have much say as they don't really own the IP, they just play with it. So until WB actually does show a connection between the two, that doesn't really mean anything. But regardless if they are connected or not, since when do we create a merged list of characters article for two different TV series? They don't even share characters as they take place in two completely different decades. Gonnym (talk) 09:38, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

That's why I felt Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul deserved to have two different character lists, not a single one. But Pennyworth should have its own list for characters. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:26, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

For those shows I can see why it was merged, as it a big part of the main cast of BCS are characters from BB. Plus there was a movie with the same characters. Here there are no shared characters other than the lead who is played by different actors. Gonnym (talk) 06:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

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Is there a sub-page or talk page that explains reasons for the removal of the "distributor" part of the infobox?

(to be honest, I could easily guess that the vague nature of how it was used was the reason for its removal, because I was one of the only users who used it correctly, at least as far as I know) Luigitehplumber (talk) 15:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes. You can find the discussion at Template talk:Infobox television#Distributor parameter: is it needed? Gonnym (talk) 18:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Luigitehplumber (talk) 22:03, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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Every once in awhile, a new entry pops up in Category:Episode lists with unformatted air dates due to the |OriginalAirDate= having something like TBA, unaired, or the like. Sometimes, as is the case currently with List of Excel Saga episodes, the entry can't simply be blanked because it has a footnote or reference. I understand editors adding the ref/note to cite the fact that the episode exists and was unaired, but it causes the article to end up in the maintenance category. I'm wondering what the actual proper format or entry is or should be in cases such as this. I tried using {{start date|unaired}} but that didn't actually work, although I seem to recall seeing {{start date|TBA}} working OK (although I could be wrong on that). Any insight into how these are supposed to be addressed would be appreciated. TIA! ButlerBlog (talk) 15:07, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Seems that {{Start date|Unaired}} does remove it from the category. On this specific example however, the note says that it was aired somewhere, so that date should probably used with the current note. Gonnym (talk) 15:42, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

I kind of thought that, too about the date in the note - thinking it should be the formatted date and then the footnote about the airing. Thanks for the insight on {{Start date|Unaired}}. I run across these from time-to-time, so that's helpful to know. ButlerBlog (talk) 21:05, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

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Wow, nice work on the italics at the pioneering sound feature films page. I know how tedious that is, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:52, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. I see you moved Eye Witness. I had originally called it a 'current events series' and you called it a 'TV series'. It was not shown on TV; it was shown in theatres. I've now changed it to 'film series'.LJA123 (talk) 15:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

It used {{Infobox television}} and it uses "episodes" in the article which made me think it is a televison program. Both of those should be changed if in fact it isn't television related. Gonnym (talk) 16:40, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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I think your TFD nomination for {{RB color}} might be an error. Please take a look. The TFD notice is breaking a bunch of articles in which the template is used. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Also {{DB-RB stations}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, Twinkle apparently tags also the non redirect one without even saying it does so (unless I missed it). Gonnym (talk) 15:13, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Can you read my reply on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 1#Template for X-Men (film series) drafts

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This has been previously discussed on the table talk pages. Please don't revert without consensus. Quotes are not needed unless there is a space in the value. Look it up. --Timeshifter (talk) 15:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Just because you decided something, does not mean it is so. Quotes are used throughout the pedia much more than unquoted strings. The edit I did, fixed inconsistent usage on those pages, while your edit was purely cosmetic and of your own preferred style. Gonnym (talk) 21:52, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Copied to Help talk:Table so more people can think about this. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:31, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

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Cedar101 (talk) 00:51, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello Gonnym I have a proposal for you A month ago I added to the Arrowverse taskforce talk page. This idea was to preform an Overhaul of the importance rating. I still have this idea which I want to preform however I feel as you are a more experienced editor you could help me establish a base line for importance ratings. OLI 00:24, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Hey @Gonnym. If you pause reverting, I will self revert my edits. Thanks vistadan 11:26, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Will stop, thank you. Gonnym (talk) 11:26, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

All of my category edits have been reverted. I may have jumped the gun changing all the HBO Max original programming categories to Max (streaming service) original programming and should have discussed it on the relevant talk pages first before making the edits. vistadan 11:49, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Network (and streaming) category names are never changed as that will result in incorrect information. For example Titans (2018 TV series) never originally aired on Max, so adding that information to a category or the infobox is just incorrect. What we do is add new categories (like the Max one) and keep sibling categories such as the HBO Max one and Category:DC Universe (streaming service) original programming. Gonnym (talk) 12:09, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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Could you please review your recent edit to ITV Sunday Night Theatre (diff). It looks to me like you've accidentally subst'ed a template when you intended to transclude. If I am right, could you please undo and then do what you intended to do? Thanks.  Dr Greg  talk  18:49, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I didn't notice I did that. Fixed now. Gonnym (talk) 22:46, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Working on an article coming up in Category:Episode lists with unformatted air dates, List of Wansapanataym episodes, I am pretty sure that every date is now formatted. It is still coming up in the maint cat. I'm wondering if it's because I used {{End date}} for the entries that are 2 (or more) parts. If that's the case, is it possible to modify what the maintenance category looks for? A multipart episode should be able to use {{Start date}} and {{End date}} for it's first and last episodes without causing any microformat issues. (Of course, it is possible that maybe that's already the case and I'm just missing an unformatted date in there somewhere - but I have run through it multiple times both manually and with AWB and can't find any other issues) ButlerBlog (talk) 16:30, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm assuming you are correct and it is because of that template. In the list of episodes (as I see it) each entry (or row) is its own thing so each date is basically the start date of it. But you can raise that issue at Template:Episode list. Alex is the maintainer of that template (and I believe he is the one that added the information about the start date/end date templates to the infobox). Gonnym (talk) 16:33, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks - I'll definitely raise the issue/question there. I think what'll I do first though is to de-format what I've get for end date and just display it as a regular date to see if that resolves it getting picked up in the maint cat. I can always reformat it later if need be. ButlerBlog (talk) 16:43, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

In re-formatting those to use start date, that seems to have solved it. Technically speaking, the start date should be fine in a multipart episode as they are displayed as separate table rows, so that would not cause a problem with hCalendar microformat. Since that seems to have solved it, I'm going to leave things alone for now. But I may bring it up at the template talk page later to suggest the last episode in a multipart display to use end date since that would seemingly give a range for the hCalendar stuff. Thanks for your help and insight. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

The only issue you might run in to is what to do when you have more than 2 episodes. So for the first episode you use the start date, for the last you use the end date, but then what do the ones between use? Gonnym (talk) 17:11, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

My original thought was that they would be regular date format - but then, thinking about it, I guess that has the potential for confusion if there isn't just one consistent way it's supposed to be. I'll just set the whole thing aside for now... ButlerBlog (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Regarding this revert on Southern Unionist. Do you have a alternate suggestion of how to fix the problem of column breaks putting the state name at the bottom of the column and the list of names starting at the top of the next column? —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 11:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't. Maybe try at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) or Wikipedia:Help desk. Gonnym (talk) 18:47, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

For more control over columns, use {{col-begin}} and {{col-break}}, or a table. Tables are less accessible and have uglier wikitext. You could also consider using actual === header markup instead of semicolons. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:53, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your effort to restructure the article. Do let me know when I can expand the remaining chapters. I can do this under draft only if you allow. I don't want to cause any waste of effort on restructuring. I appreciate that. Istbhrung (talk) 01:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

You don't need me or anyone to allow you to edit it, feel free to continue anytime! Gonnym (talk) 04:52, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Sure, thanks. I will expand the remaining chapters. best regards Istbhrung (talk) 07:28, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

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Is it possible to somehow compile either a list or category of TV show articles that are at "(TV series)" but should be at "(TV program)". Essentially, almost any documentary TV show (and a few other shows) should be at "(TV program)" instead of "(TV series)", but I suspect many of them are incorrectly at the latter. I just came across two today that I had to fix – Fatal Attraction (2013 TV program) and Fatal Attractions (TV program). But if there was a dedicated list or category of these somewhere, I could start working on them in my spare time... Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:42, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

This might be able to be done by checking the |genre= values, but those aren't really 100% correct. If you think that's a viable idea, give me a list of genres that when found should produce "TV program". The problem is you won't be able to remove false positives from the list. Gonnym (talk) 12:43, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I was wondering how difficult it is for you to create a maintenance category based on parameter use in a template? If it's not a difficult process, would you be able to create one that looks for the use of <hr> and its derivatives (i.e. <hr />, <hr/>, {{hr}}) in various parameters of {{Episode list}}? Essentially, any parameter that is not |ShortSummary=. Often, these tags are used for multipart episodes when |NumParts= should be used instead. I have been using some of the list article categories to debug the regex, and for the most part, I think it's OK for general use now. Having a maintenance category for this (even a temporary one) would make it easier to screen for. Just wondering if it's much work to set up something like that... ButlerBlog (talk) 13:38, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the module. I don't think it should be a problem. Gonnym (talk) 15:01, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

@Butlerblog Category:Episode lists with row dividers. If you spot any issues, let me know. Gonnym (talk) 15:37, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks so much! ButlerBlog (talk) 16:51, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Just got a chance to start in on this. Looks good so far. Thanks again. ButlerBlog (talk) 19:21, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

I worked through the list as loaded in AWB but I had skipped probably half of the list as some were going to require some adjustments to my regex. But now the maint cat is showing empty (and I know I didn't do all of them). Any thoughts on why that would be? (I don't know enough about maintenance categories to know where to look for changes) ButlerBlog (talk) 13:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I had a bug in the code and the whole code was commented out. The editor was quite aggressive so you should ask in the module talk page for them to reinstate it. Gonnym (talk) 07:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Ahhh... I found the discussion. I hope we can get it re-instated as that was helpful, but judging by the tone or response, I can see that could be difficult. Anyway, sorry that happened to you - I feel responsible since I'm the one who asked for it, so apologies for any difficulty that may have caused. ButlerBlog (talk) 14:49, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Na, it's not your fault. Bugs happen in code all the time, and this fix should be pretty simple. Gonnym (talk) 17:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for all the clean-up you have been doing across the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode articles! adamstom97 (talk) 00:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, You have made a change to the name of the LUA module as well as the template with no explanation. Could you explain why it needed to be changed please? BoonDock (talk) 16:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

I wrote in the edit summary that I changed the template to meet sentence case per

WP:LOWERCASE. The module was renamed to match the template. If a module is only used by a one template there should never really be a name difference between them. Gonnym (talk

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MOS:ELLIPSIS

edits

I saw them on a LOT of pages so I watch. Your edits are undoubtedly good and I'm glad you did it. Honestly, some of the quotes are probably curly because of weird formatting stuff, and surely "Screenrant" or "ScreenRant" should be "Screen Rant" too. Some day, I'll do a deep dive into the

) 13:20, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I was fixing them manually for a while and always found more, so I just added them to my AWB so when I fix something else (if I remember) I add these fixes as well. Gonnym (talk) 13:21, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

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Where, exactly, does

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Did you even read it? There is no place in the guideline that the word "documentary" is found. Gonnym (talk) 06:15, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

So what? I can't see anything saying that only words present on that page may be used in disambiguators. The whole point of disambiguating titles is to disambiguate. Which "British TV series" doesn't. — Smjg (talk) 09:48, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

I really don't understand what you are missing there... If Connections is an unfolding story then per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Television programming use "TV series" as it says When disambiguation is required, use (TV series). If you believe that the episodes are unrelated to each other, then per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Non-series television follow for all other programs use (TV program) or (TV programme) according to common usage in reliable sources.

Per

WP:NCTVUK

add the country.

I hope that clears things up. Gonnym (talk) 09:54, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't think I'm missing anything. You're ignoring the whole reason the title you've moved it to is inappropriate. It makes no sense to use a title of the form X (Y) when there are multiple Ys called X. I'm sure there's a rule or at least a guideline against this somewhere. In any case, it's common sense, as it goes against the whole point of disambiguators if you use an ambiguous one. To quote the top of the page you're referring me to: "It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply."

If you're doubtful of whether a game show constitutes a "TV series", I must refer you to Big Brother (British TV series) and The X Factor (TV series). — Smjg (talk) 10:55, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

As long as WP:NCTV has s separate disambiguation for game shows (see

WP:NCTV and change the guideline. Gonnym (talk

) 11:10, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't need to bring it up. It's already covered by the sentence I quoted. Furthermore, as I look now you still haven't moved Big Brother (British TV series) to Big Brother (British game show). — Smjg (talk) 13:34, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

I've just realised again what you said. That "TV series" and "game show" are "enough" to comply with that particular guideline is irrelevant. To comply with the various points of

WP:TITLE and common sense are additional expectations on top of this. — Smjg (talk

) 06:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

The point I think Smjg is trying to make is that "Connections (British TV series)" could refer to either the documentary or the game show, given that they are both British TV series, and I have to agree with that. Whether "(documentary)" is the right disambiguator is a different question, but I can't immediately think of anything better. Thryduulf (talk) 11:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Again, you can both agree to whatever you want, the fact is that

WP:NCTV which offers you to use the year. Which means Connections (British TV series) would then be Connections (1978 TV series). Also, Big Brother is not a game show but a TV series as each episode relates to the previous episode. Anyway you want to read this, NCTV does not support genres. Gonnym (talk

) 13:12, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

How do you mean Big Brother isn't a game show? It seems to me to meet the basic definition of a game show, and seems to be widely categorised as such.

Additionally, with many game shows, there is some form of tournamentation such as a 'winner stays on' principle, which is a way in which "each episode relates to the previous episode". Furthermore, from what I remember, in this particular show, they were frequently finishing a game that began in the previous episode. In any case, "TV series" is a broad term, such that in most cases you can't use it to tell the average reader which of multiple TV programmes you mean.

That

WP:TITLE

doesn't mean you can just pretend the former completely overrides the latter.

And what part of

To quote the top of the page you're referring me to: "It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply."

don't you understand? — Smjg (talk)

(

) 14:21, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

@

WP:NCTV, Connections (British TV series)

is the correct article title for that series"?

I'm about to be away for about a week, so I'll probably see you when I return. — Smjg (talk) 07:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

WP:NCTV, each are named appropriately based on what they are, where they were produced, and what type of shows the others are. - Favre1fan93 (talk

) 15:06, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Error

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Regarding this edit, what are lint fixes? Kire1975 (talk) 22:49, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

See WP:Linter. That lint was Special:LintErrors/multiline-html-table-in-list. Gonnym (talk) 07:04, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

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Re [2] - please assume good faith. My reversion was not disruptive, or at least not deliberately so. When I checked my watchlist this morning, I noticed that one of my talk page archives had been changed. On investigation, I saw that it was a chnage of template type. This is acceptable for mainstream templates and articles, though not, in my opinion, for talk pages and archives, per

, as you suggest.

My opposition to the removal of the templates still stands. Personally I see no reason for users to waste time changing talk pages and archives like this, though of course it's not for me to say how other users should spand their time. — Voice of Clam (talk) 18:05, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

I see, thanks for clarifying and sorry for my assumptions. Regarding the RfC, the templates will be replaced, be it in mainspace, template or userspace. That's the outcome of the that discussion, and that is regardless of any TfD discussion. Gonnym (talk) 23:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Until I get a few replies at this discussion, could you please revert/retract your category nominations for the various Astronomy task force pages? I don't want to have them all put in one location and then find a consensus to move them to a different one; I was already planning on putting in the speedy nominations myself after consensus was reached. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 08:58, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

sure Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Ta. Primefac (talk) 09:02, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Gonnym, Your edits such as here (removing whitespace) isn't allowed as per

- Please stop with these edits or I'll have to bring it to ANIs attention which trust me I'd rather not do,

Generally speaking such edits are fine providing you're making substantial edits with it which you're not, I can't be bothered diff hunting but I noticed these a few weeks back and was hoping it was a one off accidental edit, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:26, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Feel free to go hunting for edits. If you'll look at the edit summary that was part of a batch of edits adding {{reflist}} where it was missing. That specific one was one I missed which was actually an invalid usage of article content in a redirect page, which you saw and fixed after my edit. So even that edit had good outcome with your very much needed edit. Gonnym (talk) 16:56, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Sure - You made the same edits here, here and here but I'm happy with the answer given, I also concur 99.9% of your edits are actually okay but unfortunately it's the bad apples (those linked above) are the ones I've come across but as I said I'm happy with your response so all's good, Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:40, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for your edits to 🔞.

Can you link to the relevant discussion about rcat shells on interwiki redirects? Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 21:27, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

This is one Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect/Archive 6#Redirect templates on soft redirects. Gonnym (talk) 22:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Do you really think that linking to a disambiguation page is an improvement? Please solve the links to disambiguation pages in Template:Unicode chart single emojis and Template:Unicode chart Emoticons. The Banner talk 10:21, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

It's an improvement over the red link you used. By regardless, that was the result of the RfD that just ended. Gonnym (talk) 10:21, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

No, a red link is better (as a request for an article) then a link to a disambiguation page without a clear target. Now the redirects ends in a dead end street. Beside that: the RfD mentioned that the title of the emoticon was "grimacing face" what I used as link. And please solve the links to the disambiguation pages in the templates mentioned. The Banner talk 11:19, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't need to solve anything. If you have an issue bring it up with the RfD closer. Gonnym (talk) 11:45, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Okay, you prefer sloppy work over a solution. Clear. The Banner talk 11:51, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I will obviously not revert those edits but I don't think they're right: [3] and [4]. It's not 'breaking the page' and I clearly explained to you that it was not an error (guideline makes it clear: "Fixing format errors that render material difficult to read", emphasis mine) and that I meant them like that. While your first indent fix was clearly made in a friendly spirit, I am not certain the second time was. At leat, that's not the way I perceived it and I wanted to let you know. Thank you for your time. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:53, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Your usage of <s>...</s> before the bulleted point (which is a list markup) broke the page. How did it break it? For one example, the

WP:REPLYTOOL will now add comments before your stricken reply instead of after it. This messes with the page layout. Since this isn't a personal page (and in en.wiki there really aren't any of those), no user gets to decide if they want to mess with the correct layout. Now if you already quoted from the relevant guideline, then the parts relevant to this are under "Fixing format errors": fixing indentation levels and fixing list markup and under "Fixing layout errors": etc. Gonnym (talk

) 09:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Again, thank you for your time. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:22, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Gonnym, I noticed a discrepancy between how {{WikiProject Film}} and {{WikiProject Television}} displays the MCU taskforce when wrapped in WikiProject banner shell. If you look at Draft talk:Darcy Lewis, one says "Marvel Cinematic Universe" and the other says "Marvel". Could you fix that? Thanks. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:50, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@InfiniteNexus:  Done - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:26, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Favre. I kinda forgot you have template-editing rights now. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:17, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

No problem. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:18, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

So I'm pretty sure youre aware that I have been working to make a page for every episode of Legends of Tomorrow. So while typicly episodes of the show have reliable filming dates thanks to Keto Shimizu's twitter, the dates for season six arent listed on the twitter posts. And since youve made several TV articles, I was wondering where you can find these typically? OLI 18:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

That's a good question but I don't really know. Maybe the people at

WP:TV can help? Also, maybe this website has that information, but it's behind a paywall so I can't check and it might not cover Canadian shoots. Gonnym (talk

) 18:49, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@OlifanofmrTennant: The Directors' Guild of Canada (not sure if official name), usually has a pdf document they release for shoot dates of series filming in Canada. I know some of the Arrowverse series have used that in the past, might be worth a look seeing if you can find at least the proper organization I'm trying to refer too and then see if they have one for the season you need. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:57, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

@

WP:GNG on its own ButlerBlog (talk

) 21:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Yobidashi or Yobidashi

Hi, I noticed that you had removed the italicization from the title on the Yobidashi article. I've had a look at

) 09:32, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

I removed it as the usage of it was broken (category link as the reason). Regarding if this should be in italics or not as the word itself is a Romanized Japanese word. I really don't know, but feel free to add it back (without linking the category in the reason). Gonnym (talk) 09:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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Please hold off on replacing {{IPA-all}}, {{IPA-ca}}, {{IPA-el}}, {{IPA-es}}, {{IPA-la}}, {{IPA-nci}}, {{IPA-no}}, {{IPA-pt}}, {{IPA-sh}}, and {{IPA-sv}}. They had custom syntax and can't be converted just by replacing the hyphen with a pipe. Nardog (talk) 22:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

No problem. We'll make sure I don't replace those. Gonnym (talk) 07:08, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

That was fast, good job! Gonnym (talk) 08:47, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

All IPA-xx templates should now be able to be converted to {{IPA}} just by replacing the hyphen with a pipe, except IPA-all, {{IPA-kh}}, {{IPA-le}}, {{IPA-va}}, {{IPA-taiwan}}, and most redirects. Some uses of IPA-el look like they should use grc (IPA-grc redirects to IPA-el).

If you're thinking of TfD'ing them, perhaps start with ones with fewer transclusions. Nardog (talk) 09:45, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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	Yo!! Thanks for editing my Draft for the Five Iron Frenzy album!! it helped out a bunch!! thanks a ton!!!!! :) Babysharkboss2 was here!! 14:16, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for editing the X-Men: Days Of Future Past page! Babysharkboss2 was here!! 14:17, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry I have had to revert some of your recent edits. I have explained more at the TfD. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:24, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, I've reverted your edit to

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Hey mate, I was wondering if you might want to chime in on this and the two others (🏚️ & 🫗) since you were involved in the recently concluded discussions for the other emojis. Cheers! Enix150 (talk) 02:29, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

An additional discussion for 💁‍♀️ has been added as well. Cheers! Enix150 (talk) 19:16, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

When updating the

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I'm just running the same query. If you can edit the query itself it would be helpful as that part isn't my strong side. Gonnym (talk) 16:05, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

I've got a version at quarry:query/77282 which adds that exclusion. -- WOSlinker (talk) 07:30, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll run that from now on. Gonnym (talk) 07:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

The redirect 🔞 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 16 § 🔞 until a consensus is reached. Thryduulf (talk) 18:25, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for closing my template at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 October 16! It seems even mobile editing has its limits.

Aaron Liu (talk) 19:54, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Explain to me why you think it is useful to users navigating Wikipedia to have BOTH Category:Years in New York (state) AND Category:Years in the Province of New York. I can't wrap my around how dumb you must be to think that you are improving the encyclopedia in keeping TWO SEPARATE TREES for this. Please explain. I'm eager to learn what you have to say. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I'll give you another try in re-writing your comment. Gonnym (talk) 03:29, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Need I copy and paste? –Aidan721 (talk) 13:39, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

It's historical, the latter of which was before American independence. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Great work creating the emoji (faces) list draft! talk 19:46, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the annoyance but I think you forgot one thing. Since you're a template editor could you make the Template:WikiProject Crime redirect to the Crime and Criminal biography one, to complete the merge? Otherwise I believe we're good. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Done. Though I'm sure there a future cleanup will be required as some of these templates were probably used together on the same page, which will lead to duplicate banners now. Gonnym (talk) 09:11, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Correct - there are quite a few more entries at

WikiProject Criminal biography}} had different parameters. GoingBatty (talk

) 14:58, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

 Fixed with a template edit. Thanks Liz! – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:27, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Everything okay at home? I do, now, note that you do hundreds of cleanup edits a day, so it must get frustrating when you feel that someone is ignoring you. But seriously, your second edit summary of "I'm unsure how my edit summary was unclear and how your eyes cannot see that one is already there." was uncalled for and unhelpful. I was not ignoring you, and I included specific wording from

to explain why I undid your revert - no lashing out, no questioning any of your five senses, no accusations. Believed I was following the guidelines, and copied the guideline to support that. Your original summary of "the infobox already handles this" is not clear, and I went to SDESC page to try and find out what you were getting at (before I reverted back), but there is nothing there saying "infobox episode template creates a WP:SDESC automatically visible in mobile view".

Not knowing this extra feature, as it is not stated at WP:SDESC, the only thing my eyes can see is that the article did not have {{Short description|text text text date}} at the top of the page. So, that explains exactly how my "eyes cannot see that one is already there", because one is not actually there. I have now tested on my own, looking at other episodes of tv series in mobile view, after your less than professional second edit summary (which still did not explain this), and now see how this is automatically populated by the template for mobile view. So thank you, I guess.

Are there other infobox templates that also do this? Why is there no note on the WP:SDESC page specifically explaining this feature? Are we to rely on nastygrams in lieu of actual detail regarding this feature, a pretty good feature at that, for this (and potentially other unmentioned) templates? I do many {{Short description|xxxxxxxx}}, and might be doing others that are already covered automatically by some infobox template. Thank you for your cleanup work, and sincerely hope that you are not being spitefully attacked or ignored by editors. Chin up. Jmg38 (talk) 09:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Hey. I'm sorry you feel attacked by my edit summary but it was a serious question, as I'm assuming (and it might have been incorrectly) that anyone involved in the short description project uses one of the tools to view short descriptions in the article (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Short descriptions#Adding and editing short descriptions), which is why I asked if your eyes cannot see that one is already there. Regarding the automatic handling by the infobox, there are quite a few that do this, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Short descriptions#Auto-generated and bot-generated descriptions and Category:Templates that generate short descriptions. Gonnym (talk) 09:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Not part of the short description project, just one of the couple of maintenance things I check when editing an article for other reasons; at the article anyway, so get off my duff and help with other things while I am there. Will check on the two links to automatic handling items you included above. Jmg38 (talk) 09:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

The documentation for {{Infobox television episode}} explains that it adds a short description, and every article that already has a short description has a category at the bottom indicating that it has one. Editors who are interested in viewing, adding, and maintaining short descriptions should definitely activate the short description helper gadget in Preferences. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

There it is!! Hidden categories! I will definitely set my user preference to appearance → show hidden categories… and remember to look. Thank you both, Gonnym and Jonesey95. Jmg38 (talk) 02:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Gonnym, I'd like to apologize for my conduct at RfD. My failure to drop the stick was unconstructive and did little to accomplish what I wanted, besides wasting editor time. Happy editing,

12:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi! Could you please revert your edit to {{Infobox comic book title}}? First of all, it causes "missing end tag" linter errors. And second, I think it's wrong. |italic title= is about changing {{DISPLAYTITLE}}, not about the presentation in the infobox. It could for example be used on pages about characters, writers, etc., where the infobox is used somewhere down the article to give information about a specific comic book, but you don't want it influencing the title of the page itself. --rchard2scout (talk) 13:21, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

That's a bad design when you need several parameters to achieve the same end result, but sure. Gonnym (talk) 13:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Also careless is putting me in your revert summary as the source of a whole bunch of edits I didn't make. I added one note about him dying in the saddle; all those metadata changes were by MB. And I *always* edit the summary; have since 2009.
-- [email protected] Baylink (talk) 19:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you link to what edits you are talking about? Gonnym (talk) 19:47, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

"(please use one of the actual templates wikipedia has and not create a manual usage like this)". Please enlighten me which actual template can be used here; I looked but did not find one that appeared appropriate.  --Lambiam 11:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Maybe Template:Technical and if not that, check in Category:Cleanup templates. If those can't help you, then that might be telltale sign that the one you are using shouldn't be used. Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Please explain your revert.

15:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

See the first word usually. You should ask yourself what do we gain by removing the redirect categories? When you removed the categories, the redirect vanished from Category:Redirects from emoji. Would a user who searchs for emoji redirects in that category be helped or hindered by your edit?

Also, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect/Archive 6#Redirect templates on soft redirects where this was asked before. It seems that the guideline to not add them is based on a very wrong assumption. Gonnym (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Sounds like a reasonable IAR, although I don't doubt someone else will come along and do it again. And insert spiel about using edit summaries here. Clyde _{[trout needed]} 16:24, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey mate, just wanted to let you know that is discussion was relisted, so I was seeing if you wanted to chime in. Hopefully this should be the last one. Enix150 (talk) 01:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

I do want all transclusions of IPA-xx templates to be replaced now. I just don't want them to be deleted yet so old revisions continue to display as they did. Perhaps I could ask the closer to tweak the outcome to "convert" or something so one of the TfD bots can do it now. Would that be okay with you? Nardog (talk) 12:31, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

But that was exactly what the TfD was for. I was the only one converting them. I saw that no one was reverting so I nominated them all so a bot can do it instead of me manually having to do it. If you wanted for them to placed in a "non-usage" state for an "x" amount of time after and then deleted, that would have been also fine and you could have said that (I didn't know you wanted that, as the previous batch that was deleted you didn't ask for that). Gonnym (talk) 13:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm confused by you saying that you didn't know I wanted that, when I said "Maybe run the bot right now ... before deleting them" and "Prefer showing a warning ... after bot replacement". You nominated them for deletion, not for merger or conversion, so I opposed it. I didn't oppose the first round because it only concerned ones that had few transclusions. I haven't personally converted them (apart from custom syntax) precisely because they have so many transclusions only a bot (or bots) should do it.

Although I said "at least six months, preferably a year", given how prevalent some of them are, and how often they're used in the lead section, now I'm thinking that's too short and I wouldn't give a fixed term. Nardog (talk) 03:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I nominated them for deletion, as that is the process. There isn't anything to merge and conversion is exactly what I wrote in my nomination: which should be replaced with {{IPA|lang code}}. I'm unclear how anything other than that can be understood.

In any rate, in the current state that they aren't being converted and there is no discussion of deprecation, then I'm going to remove the deprecated template as that just isn't the case and that template isn't appropriate. Gonnym (talk) 13:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

So what's stopping us from asking the closer to tweak the outcome so TfD bots can convert them? Nardog (talk) 22:05, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Category:Television episodes directed by cast member has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Bearcat (talk) 20:37, 16 November 2023 (UTC)