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Quick update

Hey, just to let you know I haven't stopped editing here. Just going through some hard times at college, which are likely to carry on until at least late June. I probably won't be considering running before then. Hope you're alright. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 17:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

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16:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC) The Helpful Bot 16:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Geography WikiProject update - 03/15/2009

You commented on the awards effort when it was just getting started a long while back - I thought you might like to see the end results...

The award images are complete!

After months of toil and attention to detail, Penubag has completed the set of images for this WikiProject's awards!

There are five race ribbons:

There's an engraved medallion:

And by far the hardest to create, a golden trophy:

If you are interested in the contests and collaborations that will feature these awards, drop me a note.

And be sure to pop by Penubag's talk page to let him know what you think of his graphics artistry.

The Transhumanist    22:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


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Thanks, I believe I've cleared things up. Malinaccier (talk)

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Happy Malinaccier's Day!

Malinaccier has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as Malinaccier's day!
For being one of our calmest, ablest administrators,
enjoy being the Star of the day, Malinaccier!

Cheers,
bibliomaniac15
00:39, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

If you'd like to show off your awesomeness, you can use this userbox.

Congrats. :) –Juliancolton Talk · Review 00:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Happy Malinaccier's Day :) Are we expected to give presents? —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 17:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

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Thankspam

Hi Malinaccier, very very belated thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed by an embarrassingly wide margin, there's a full glitzy Oscar style version of my acceptance speech here. I hope your Real Life issue resolves itself well for you, and look forward to mopweilding with you in the future. PS I found User:Malinaccier/Wikiphilosophy an interesting read. ϢereSpielChequers 20:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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Round I, Issue 10 - March 31, 2009

Archive after

Content Leaders

As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants with the most:

Biggest Jumps

This week, the players with the biggest difference between their points last fortnight, and their points this week are:

Rank User LF TF D
1 Mexico Durova 1713 1932 219
2 Mitchazenia 951 1167 216
3 Iceland Scorpion0422 683 788 105
4 Colombia ThinkBlue 291 386 95
5 Wales Shoemaker's Holiday 791 873 82
6 Sweden Theleftorium 990 1060 70
7 Switzerland Sasata 513 581 68
8 Thailand Rlevse 224 290 66
9 Vanuatu Matthewedwards 630 695 65
10 New South Wales 97198 314 360 46
  • LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores
  • A full list is located at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Jumps
From the Judges

What a brilliant finale to Round 1. With so little in it it was always going to be a tight contest, particularly in the all-important wildcard places. Congratulations to all those who have made it to Round 2, and commiserations to all who have been eliminated. I hope you continue to contribute as fully as you have been in the tournament, if not better!

As has been stated before, Round 2 begins Wednesday, April 1 2009. I hope you are all ready!

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WikiCup At a Glance

As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a total of:

Pool winners

In this round of the WikiCup, the top two contestants from each pool, along with ten wildcards, will advance to the next round. As of this newsletter, the current pool leaders are:

Pool A
  1. Toronto Gary King (1154)
  2. Philippines Spencer (377)
Pool B
  1. Wales Shoemaker's Holiday (1055)
  2. Texas La Pianista (74)
Pool C
  1. Iceland Scorpion0422 (944)
  2. Denmark Candlewicke (806)
Pool D
  1. Colombia ThinkBlue (444)
  2. New South Wales 97198 (374)
Pool E
  1. Switzerland Sasata (604)
  2. Antarctica X! (216)
Pool F
  1. Thailand Rlevse (405)
  2. Confederate States of America Bedford (331)
Pool G
  1. Northern Cyprus Sunderland06 (236)
  2. Luxembourg Ceranthor (190)
Pool H
  1. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (686)
  2. England Dendodge (220)
Pool I
  1. Sweden Theleftorium (1107)
  2. Mexico Durova (961)
Pool J
  1. Mitchazenia (1180)
  2. Vanuatu Matthewedwards (702)
Wildcard winners
  1. United States Useight (659)
  2. Cambodia Paxse (507)
  3. Principality of Sealand Rambo's Revenge (333)
  4. Michigan the_ed17 (330)
  5. Isle of Man J Milburn (302)
  6. Alberta Climie.ca (265)
  7. Spain Catalan (256)
  8. Maryland Ottava Rima (190)
  9. Japan Wrestlinglover (169)
  10. India Tinucherian (162)
  • All scores are accurate as of the end of Round 1.
20:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


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Hmm...

Seems there's some support for me running pretty soon, per this. Pending a review from Balloonman/I'm Spartacus!, would you be happy if I ran in the coming week or so? —Cyclonenim | Chat  00:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll await the two reviews from Balloonman and SoWhy and decide further then. I'm also curious to hear Lankiveil's view. Hope you're well. —Cyclonenim | Chat  17:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
In case you're interested ;) Thanks for the support you've given me over the past few months of our coaching, it means a lot. —Cyclonenim | Chat  23:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll sign off on whatever tomorrow, perhaps around midday my time. Regards. —Cyclonenim | Chat  23:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm flattered, thanks. I'll enter the hellhole of RfA tomorrow when I've got a bit of time to answer the questions. Thanks again (I've said thanks a stupendous amount of times on this page...) —Cyclonenim | Chat  00:14, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Hi! Could you be willing to admin coach me? I need some experience before

Sign here!
05:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cyclonebiskit

I might have transcluded early, but I'll remind him to answer the questions. --

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RFA thanks

My RFA passed today at 61/5/4. Thanks for participating in my RFA. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the WP community has placed in me. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 20:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Outline of knowledge project summary, and future direction

In response to a friend on Wikipedia who was wondering about how I've been and what I've been up to, I got to spewing about our little endeavor, and well, I got so carried away I pretty much told him everything.  :) The message turned out to be a pretty good summary of what we've accomplished so far and the overall plan.

See User talk:The Rambling Man#What's up?

The Transhumanist    23:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

On behalf of

the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk
07:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

In Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of philosophical theories, the editor who created the nominated page mentioned that the material he used to create that list was previously AfD'd.

Therefore, the page is subject to speedy deletion (

WP:G4
).

Had I known this, I would have tagged it for speedy instead of nominating it for AfD. What should I do now? Withdraw the nom, and tag the article for speedy?

The Transhumanist    23:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

RfA

Hey Malinaccier :) Thought I'd let you know that I have withdrawn from my RfA per some very good concerns raised by Jc37 (talk · contribs) which have resulted in me not feeling ready at this time. It was also clear that the RfA wouldn't pass, without his concerns. Sorry I didn't give you prior notice of this withdrawal, it happened quite suddenly after I realised the extent of his concerns. Thanks, I hope you will continue to coach me under upcoming months, but feel free to decline. —Cyclonenim | Chat  12:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that'd be great. Let's just take things slowly, one step at a time, and I'll run in the future if we all agree upon being ready again. --—Cyclonenim | Chat  22:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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Update on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject & Geography WikiProject (Country outlines workgroup) - 04/16/2009

Momentum in the development of the outlines is continuing to build, even though we haven't added any new outlines lately. Plenty of work is being done on the outlines we already have.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Inspiration!

Kudos go to Buaidh, who has dived head first into outline development, continuing improvement of the country outlines, and doing so vigorously. Take a look at his contribs. He has taken the initiative and has been expanding those outlines' design and coverage. Be sure to let him know what you think of his work!

Coming soon: the Super Huge Expansion (it will be really really big)

Excitement (mine at least) is building as we approach the Super Huge Expansion, during which notices will be placed on thousands of subject talk pages and their corresponding WikiProjects (see below concerning which ones). Though not all on the same day! - this will take place over a period of weeks or months, because it's best not to open the flood gates all at once.

The existing outlines should serve as strong examples for editors who wish to develop new outlines, and so we need to complete them as much as we can before we start to take this to the next level (in about 3 months). The

guideline on outlines and outline development
, also need to be completed before the transcendence begins. These will help guide the decisions and actions of editors, and reduce confusion.

Projected outline, at the OOK WikiProject page

What's next? Where is the Outline of knowledge headed?

Well, it will grow, to encompass all of human knowledge.

But, is there a plan?

YES!!!

Currently under construction on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject page is a version of the outline that will display links to all the outline pages currently in the encyclopedia proper, links to all outline drafts, and redlinks to all planned outline drafts.

You can help. Please place links to the remaining drafts in there (with complete pagenames so we can easily tell they are drafts). Once all the draft pages are placed, please look over the overall outline for gaps in coverage, and add missing subjects. I expect there are thousands of missing subjects extensive enough to benefit from being outlined. New subjects should be included as red draft links. Thank you.

But it's not just an editing task list...

During the upcoming "Super Huge Expansion" (mentioned above), the article talk page and WikiProject for each of the subjects listed on the projected outline will receive a notice requesting the creation and development of the outline page for that subject. Each notice will also explain how a subject's outline will integrate into the Outline of knowledge and into Wikipedia's navigation system as a whole.

See

Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge#Projected outline
.

Topic lists

The nice thing about a reverse outline is that it turns up problems that exist in the publication being outlined, which provides opportunities to fix them. Since we get very little or no opposition to fixing problems even on sets of hundreds of pages, we've been plowing through them.

One of the biggest problems in Wikipedia that our work on the Outline of knowledge has uncovered so far is with the set of topics lists. Their titles, in the forms "List of x topics" and "List of x-related topics" are ambiguous, and they are not the most common terms for describing their content. See

WP:COMMONNAME
. To make matters worse, the set is divided between 2 competing types/sets of pages: alphabetical indexes, and outlines.

In an effort to sort out this mess, the indexes are being renamed, and the outlines are being reformatted and moved, or merged, into the Outline of knowledge.

So far, almost 300 topic lists have been renamed to indexes. Nobody has objected to the names chosen, but one editor has expressed reservation on the approach - he was concerned it would cause confusion by having 2 title standards in place at the same time for these. Though he himself was not confused, nor did he object to the titles. And nobody else has expressed confusion or dissatisfaction with the new titles either. It has been over 2 weeks since the renaming has begun, and since no confusion seems to have been caused, and since there is no opposition to the new names, I plan to continue with the renaming.

Also, one topic list has been merged into its corresponding outline so far:

List of cell biology topics is currently being merged into Outline of cell biology
(see the link dump in hidden comments at the end of the outline).

I'm not sure how many lists have "topics" in their titles, but Google turned up 788, and these appear to include the ones that have already been renamed to indexes. Subtracting those renamed so far, there are about 500 more to go.

Watching tips

I thought you might want to compare notes on the methods we use to watch over the outlines. Here's how I keep an eye on things...

My watchlist had so many thousands of articles in it that I finally just deleted them all. Now I have it set so that I have to manually add pages to be watched, and I use it only to watch trouble spots and collaborations I'm participating in.

Because I like to watch specific sets of pages at a time, I use "Related changes" on list pages. That way the results are not watered down with edits from pages I'm not immediately concerned with.

I always use

WP:POP and Related changes together. With POP installed, you go to a link list, like User:Buaidh/Country outlines of the Americas
, then click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu, and then hover the mouse cursor over the diff and hist links so you can look at those without clicking on them.

It's pretty fast.

The technique turns Wikipedia's list system into a crystal ball.

Update Scanner

Penubag recommends Update Scanner, which is a Firefox add-on that periodically scans pages and pings you when a change is detected. You can even set its level of sensitivity for each scanned page (e.g., "ignore changes of 100 words or less").

I'd use it, but I don't have a computer.  :(

See also

WP:OTS for more power tools and techniques, and User:Penubag/optimum toolsets
for some more nice addons, that do a variety of things.

I'm always looking for new power tools and power skills, so if you know of any, please share (let me know)!

The Transhumanist    04:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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RfA Thankspam

Thanks to everyone who took the time and trouble to take part in my RfA whether support, oppose or neutral. All comments are valued and will be considered carefully in the coming weeks. Feel free to add more advice on my talk page if you think I need it. SpinningSpark 23:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
In case you're wondering, the image is a smiley, just a little more aesthetic, but not as serious as the Mona Lisa

Do not read this one - The Hunt - Outline of knowledge WikiProject - 04/17/2009

Here's a trivia question for you...

While surveying libraries, their outline-related resources, and our coverage of them, I came across something funny...

What subclass is the Bible in the Library of Congress Classification?

Do you think they'd like this one at

WP:DYK
?

(Nope. They didn't.)     :)

Libraries

For months, I've been sitting at a terminal in one of the largest libraries in the country, and I haven't even looked around at the available resources.

Until a few days ago.

I'm overwhelmed.

When compared to libraries, Wikipedia is small. (See Digest of Education Statistics 2008, Chapter 7:Libraries and Educational Technology Libraries, and turn to page 617).

But is that a fair comparison?

Yes.

Why?

Because we have growth potential.  :)

And we cover everything, including libraries!

Guess what else I found?

Hunting for outlines

I began to study libraries and librarians, since they are experts in organizing knowledge. And of course I turned to Wikipedia to see what we had on the things I came across...

And while doing so I kept running into outlines on Wikipedia that are not (yet) part of the Outline of knowledge.

When I come across non-OOK outlines, generally I rename them, and reformat them to our standard outline format. But there is the occasional exception.

Here are some outlines I just added:

  1. List of energy topics --> Outline of energy
    (it converted great)
  2. Outline of Dewey Decimal classes
    (no conversion)
  3. Library of Congress Classification --> ??? (no rename, no conversion)

The last 2 are outlines by their very nature, and so our standard outline subheadings didn't seem to fit. So I left them as is.

I renamed the first 2, but the last one is the name of the outline, that is, the topic itself is an outline, and that outline is presented as the article's content, so I left the name as is. For now. This needs more thought.

Of course, that's not all. Concerning those last 2 outlines above...

Alternate outlines of knowledge

...not only are they outlines, but they are outlines of knowledge! Well, the top few levels, at least.

Uh, so?

What happens if we linkify them?  :)

That is, what happens if we linkify their classifications to Wikipedia's outlines?  :)   :)   :)

They become alternate top ends to the OOK

Yep.

What can you find?

I challenge you to find some "hidden" outlines.

I dare you to take a look around Wikipedia for hidden outlines (that is, outlines not yet hooked into the OOK), and add your kills to

WP:WPOOK#The hunt for hidden outlines
.

My trophies are already there.

May the hunt begin!

The Transhumanist    20:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

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A doubt

Hi there MALINACCIER, VASCO from PORTUGAL here,

I have a question for you regarding Mateen Cleaves' article: why was the OFF-COURT ISSUES section removed, as you cited some guideline in the process? I thought it was highly informative.

I also tell you i am in no way defending my work, as i did not write that text, just curious (ah and i also reassure you by saying i did not re-instate anything, it stayed as it was before you removed that bit).

Have a good time, ty for clearing me,

VASCO AMARAL - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 20:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Swine influenza

I have tried to structure the article as per

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PERSONAL INFO

Hi there MALIN, VASCO here again,

Regarding your response to my doubt about personal info being added to articles, i clearly see your point, sometimes it can get rather ridiculous, and you are correct, WP is not the Daily Mirror or akin.

My opinion is that sometimes, such info (drug abuse battles, assaults (see for instance former

New Jersey Nets Jayson Williams
) can provide insightful, dare i say psychological details as to why these folk did what they did in a given point in their lives, sometimes still during their active careers, in any given field of "expertise".

To wrap it up, i repeat i do see your point. What could be defined as a "common ground" in these matters, in your opinion?

From Portugal, kind regards, keep up the good work,

VASCO AMARAL - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 19:18, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Headsup: a discussion wrt the possibility of renaming

"Internet homicide" has commenced at Talk:Internet_homicide#Name. ↜Just me, here, now … 20:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you for your opinion

Malinaccier, Gaia Octavia Agrippa has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 20:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

RfA parsing

FYI, you are showing up twice at RfA here. --Preceding unsigned comment 01:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Everyking 5

Wow, what happened with the autotext. It screwed everything up! Anyways, User:Ottava Rima has fixed it for me, so drop him a thank you note for me while you're there, would you?[1] OhanaUnitedTalk page 02:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

It appears that he's attempting to convert links to raw HTML code. OhanaUnitedTalk page 02:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

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RfA Thank You

My RFA passed today at 75/2/1 so I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. Special thanks go to GlassCobra and FlyingToaster for their nomination and support. Cheers! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my recent RfA, which was unable pass with a final tally of (45/39/9). I plan on addressing the concerns raised and working to improve in the next several months. Hopefully, if/when I have another RfA I will win your support. Special thanks go to
GT5162, and MC10 for nominating me. Thanks again, -download ׀ sign!
01:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

A couple questions for you...

What are the benefits of a tree structure?

The article doesn't say.

I'm interested, because I need to explain the benefits in the guideline on outlines I'm writing. (Outlines are a type of tree structure).

I've also asked the question at various reference desks, and these threads may help to jump start your brain on this question.  :)

What are the benefits of outlines, over and above regular articles?

What benefits have you noticed?

How are Wikipedia's outlines useful to you?

I look forward to your answers on my talk page.

The Transhumanist    04:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback

 Unfortunately, my RFA was closed today with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns. Special thanks go to Schmidt, MICHAEL Q., TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — talk 20:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

WPOOK
Update - 05/17/2009 - Blockbusting!

This project needs another shot in the arm.

So here it goes...

Countries WikiProject Collaboration - Contests!

I've contacted all 59 members of the Countries WikiProject to help in designing and conducting contests for the further development of the country outlines.

You are invited too.

Houston, we have a problem

The guidelines and outline article still aren't complete.

Which means you will be needed to help explain to the newcomers mentioned above what outlines are and how to develop them.

Please participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries#Hosting country coverage contests.

The Transhumanist    22:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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Shameless thankspam

FlyingToaster Barnstar

Hello Malinaccier! Thank you so much for your support in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of 126/32/5. I am truly humbled by the trust you placed in me, and will endeavor to live up to that trust. FlyingToaster

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Thanks

Thank you for all your help last year, but

this isn't the place for me any longer. Best wishes to you in your future endeavors! TravisTX 98.196.17.17 (talk
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Has the shit hit the fan? -
WPOOK
update, 05/25/2009

Maybe...

We've started the next phase

I was experiencing mental block on the

outline guideline draft
. And this was holding the whole project back. Without these (which are intended to explain the type of lists known as outlines in detail), the danger is higher that a controversy could go the wrong way.

I requested help on them, but there was none forthcoming.

So I went ahead and started us on the next phase of operations without those 2 pages...

Our AWB'ers and I have placed about 1600 notices all over Wikipedia. And the plan is to place several thousand more.

This generated only one complaint, but it was a very vocal one, and attracted a few other detractors who seemed unfamiliar with the concept of hierarchical outlines and their benefits. However, just as many or more editors came to the defense of the OOK, and there was no consensus formed. But, dab is still trying to rally opposition to outlines at the Village Pump. See below...

Administrator noticeboard incident and Village Pump policy discussion

It appears that the banner placed on the

WP:AN
!

He went well out of his way to use negative hype to cause a stir.

It appears that Mr. Bachmann doesn't understand the nature of hierarchical outlines and their applications. And though he implied that he has never seen an OOK outline before, he was involved with a discussion on these when they were called "lists of basic topics".

His primary argument is that outlines are content forks of articles, and violate

WP:CFORK
.

But "topic lists", of which outlines are a type, have been around for almost as long as Wikipedia, and fall under the

WP:STAND
guidelines. They aren't intended as forks, as they are lists, bringing the benefits of lists to the corresponding subjects, such as grouping and navigation.

Someone suggested an MfD, but lists are articles, and are within the jurisdiction of AfD. Only the portal page, which merely lists the outline articles, falls within the scope of the MfD department.

The administrator's noticeboard was considered the wrong venue for the discussion, and the discussion was closed.

But

Dab's discussion at the Village Pump
is still active. Hopefully level heads will prevail there too.

Now what?

Am I disheartened or deterred? Hell no. I say "full steam ahead!"

But we really need to finish the

guideline
. Otherwise there will continue to be confusion.

Over the next week or two, we'll be posting another 1600 or so notices. It's a good thing we didn't send out 10,000 of them all at once.  :)

The Transhumanist    23:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S.: Another related thread has popped up at

WP:VPR#OoK's expediency
. --TT   04:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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WikiCup newsletter XVII.V

This is just a quick reminder that the round ends this Friday, May 29, 2009. I wanted to let you guys know the current standings. If you are very close, but not close enough, work as hard as possible these next two days. Pool leaders are listed as usual, and under the 10 wildcards, are competitors that are still fighting for a spot. Also, if you currently have any un-reviewed GAN's up and you'd like them to be reviewed and counted for this round, you must place them on the appropriate thread of the WikiCup talk page.

Pool A
  1. Wales Shoemaker's Holiday (647)
Pool B
  1. Colombia ThinkBlue (247)
Pool C
  1. Sweden Theleftorium (455)
Pool D
  1. Denmark Candlewicke (539)
Pool E
  1. Mexico Durova (479)
Pool F
  1. Switzerland Sasata (961)
Current Wildcards
  1. United States Useight (393)
  2. Iceland Scorpion0422 (372)
  3. Thailand Rlevse (329)
  4. Japan Wrestlinglover (307)
  5. Cambodia Paxse (285)
  6. Maryland Ottava Rima (248)
  7. Mitchazenia (226)
  8. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (181)
  9. Michigan the_ed17 (179)
  10. Isle of Man J Milburn (168)
  11. Confederate States of America Bedford (156)
  12. Toronto Gary King (147)
  13. New South Wales 97198 (142)
  14. Luxembourg Ceranthor (111)
  15. India Tinucherian (106)
  16. Vanuatu Matthewedwards (98)

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00:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Admin Coaching Tyw7

I would like to have you to be my admin coach. I have ran for 4 failed RFAs. I have been for Wikipedia for over a year. If you would be interested in coaching me, that would be great! --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 13:49, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XVIII

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Thanks for coming out

I would like to thank you for coming out and participating in my Request for Adminship, which closed unsuccessfully at (48/8/6) based on my withdrawal. I withdrew because in my opinion I need to focus on problems with my content contributions before I can proceed with expanding my responsibilities. Overall I feel that the RfA has improved me as an editor and in turn some articles which in my eyes is successful. Thank you again for your participation. Cheers and happy editing.--kelapstick (talk) 18:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Verifying my CSDs

Many thanks! :-)

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RFA Thanks

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which succeeded with 56 in support, 12 in opposition and 3 neutral votes. I am truly honored by the trust that the community has placed in me. Whether you supported me, opposed me, or if you only posted questions or commented om my RfA, I thank you for your input and I will be looking at the reasons that people opposed me so I can improve in those areas :). If you ever need anything please feel free to ask me and I would be happy to help you :). All the Best, Mifter (talk)

Mifter (talk) 23:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Some shameless thankspam!

User:Colds7ream/RfA

About an RFD you closed

I noticed you closed Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 June 8#Warp pipe (disambiguation) but it did not seem finished to me. I'm pretty sure the normal close after a week or so did not apply in it's usual way because the discussion seemed to be postponed until there was a decision at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warp Pipe (software developer) (2nd nomination). You closed it very shortly after the very impotent information, of what the AFD decision was became available.--Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 02:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I also have a concern about the closure of this RfD. You closed it with the decision to redirect it to the page concerning recurring mario gameplay elements... However, this page does not contain any information about Warp Pipes, making the redirect confusing. Surely if there is no information anywhere on Wikipedia concerning the topic Warp Pipe, it should not have a redirect? Even the page
Warp Pipe itself was deleted with no redirect. --Taelus (talk
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I have now added into the article a section about Warp Pipes, and redirected other relevant terms, so the redirect is now valid. --Taelus (talk) 16:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

My userpage

Hi Malinaccier. I've changed the font color on my user an talk pages. Is it easier to look at now? Also, would you like me to change the color for the links as well? Timmeh!(review me) 16:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIX and XX

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Your RfA

Thanks for bringing that up on my RfA. It made me take a look back and realize that my oppose and neutral !votes were very inappropriate, considering I was basing them on one isolated incident, the details of which were vague to begin with. I know you hold no grudge, but I feel bad about my !vote. So, I'd just like to apologize for that and let you know that, for what it's worth, if your RfA were held today I would have supported. Timmeh 01:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your prompt response regarding Autoreview. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 18:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
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