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The second round of the 2023 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to have scored 60 points to advance into round 3. Our top five scorers in round 2 all included a featured article among their submissions and each scored over 500 points. They were:

• Iazyges (1040) with three FAs on Byzantine emperors, and lots of bonus points.
• Unlimitedlead (847), with three FAs on ancient history, one GA and nine reviews.
• Epicgenius (636), a WikiCup veteran, with one FA on the New Amsterdam Theatre, four GAs and eleven DYKs
• BennyOnTheLoose (553), a seasoned competitor, with one FA on snooker, six GAs and seven reviews.
• FrB.TG (525), with one FA, a Lady Gaga song and a mass of bonus points.

Other notable performances were put in by Sammi Brie, Thebiguglyalien, MyCatIsAChonk, PCN02WPS, and AirshipJungleman29.

So far contestants have achieved thirteen featured articles between them, one being a joint effort, and forty-nine good articles. The judges are pleased with the thorough reviews that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Forces of Destiny Opening Logo.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Ixfd64 (talk) 16:59, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've started a split discussion over there for the ARG content to be its own article, namely about possibly splitting the ARG discussion into its own article due.-- Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still planning to do a Good Topic for the series at some point, but been thinking in the back of my mind that the minor character list is probably going to be a pain when we get to trying to bring that to GA. I'm feeling it might be good to nuke characters that don't have multiple appearances, or significant ones that are necessary to understand the story. Even some like the Russian CEO can really be summarized as "Russian CEO" in the body of the articles for Sombra and Zarya probably.-- Kung Fu Man (talk) 05:13, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The third round of the 2023 WikiCup has come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 175 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

• Thebiguglyalien, with 919 points from a featured article on Frances Cleveland as well as five good articles and many reviews,
• Unlimitedlead, with 862 points from a high-scoring featured articles on Henry II of England and numerous reviews,
• Iazyges, with 560 points from a high-scoring featured article on Tiberius III.

Contestants achieved 11 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 47 good articles, 72 featured or good article reviews, over 100 DYKs and 40 ITN appearances. As always, any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

I don't understand how Orion Acaba is a member of Critical Role when he was denounced years ago by the cast whereas Robbie Daymond is actively being involved in Critical Role productions. Neither were part of the original group that became Critical Role yet both participated in a limited number of episodes(including the first one) of their respective seasons. It seems like a bit of a double standard to include one but not the other. Just`Existing 19:19, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Just`Existing: Orion was discussed at Talk:Critical Role#Inappropiatness of calling Acaba a 'main cast member'. It is not about appearing in a limited number of episodes but about how they were framed to the audience and within the production: Acaba was framed as a member of the main cast until his departure, and Daymond was stated to be a guest cast member ("special guest"). Acaba was initially expected and presented as a permanent member of cast while he was appearing until he wasn't, where Daymond was presented as a temporary member of the show Critical Role even during his lengthy run. If Daymond becomes a permanent cast member of Critical Role in the future, that is the point at which to add him to the infobox. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 20:03, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That classification as a cast member seems to have changed in the last eight years. In The World of Critical Role(2020) by Liz Marsham and the Cast of Critical Role, the entry for Tiberius Stormwind and Orion Acaba is in the guest portion of the book, which seems to indicate that he was a guest for all intents and purposes. Just`Existing 20:50, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Just`Existing: The article is taking it at the time of production for those episodes, not in the after-the-fact. At the time that he was on the show, he was not a guest for all intents and purposes, then he was reframed as one in the post mortem. If you want to dispute his being listed as a main cast member, you should start a new section at the talk page. But please ensure you read the discussion from earlier this year that I linked above first. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 21:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was actually pretty well received in the discord after trying it on Characters of the Soulcalibur series, since it relays more information to the reader at a glance and fixes the whole white space issue. General consensus was it made the pages look more like proper articles. Just saying. Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:14, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It looks generally ridiculous, imo, to have an infobox with three pieces of information in it, almost all of which is in the first sentence. I also generally think the idea that it makes something look like a more proper article to be a little eh of a rationale since

infoboxes are not required for articles

, so it's not really a strong consideration and I don't know if it's useful to lean on it.

Characters of The Last of Us, Characters of Final Fantasy XV, Characters of Final Fantasy VIII, Characters of God of War, Characters of Red Dead Redemption 2, Characters of the Uncharted series seem to get by without infoboxes, and generally character lists are written across the project and in general without one, and I don't know that a Discord conversation off-wiki forms enough consensus against a wide standard practice. The infobox is also just not designed for lists. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 17:41, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

• Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
• Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
• Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Wikipedia and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)

More and more newspapers are ending their print editions and gone digital. I felt that this notice would help keep articles up to date as the publishers have announced an end to their printing. -- Ktkvtsh (talk) 04:40, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The template implies that ceasing print editions automatically means that the article needs copyediting and citation work, which doesn't make sense. The banner also orange tags the articles, marking it as having a content issue, when "is no longer in print" isn't a content issue. Also, it doesn't feel appropriate to put a banner on these articles for a status that doesn't have a real correlation with the state of the article. The banner doesn't keep the articles up to date at all and is actually implying there's an issue in the article itself that readers should be aware of. The template is a general misunderstanding of the purpose of article message templates. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 04:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will fix this. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Ktkvtsh (talk) 04:48, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I follow the Gannett article and noticed that Ktkvtsh put the "Newspaper end print" template on it. That doesn't make sense, since Gannett isn't a newspaper. I removed it. Now I see that Ktkvtsh has also put that template on a number of other articles such as Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and a dozen or so others. There's no citation to establish that the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has ceased its print publication. This all seems like a bit of a weird mess. Novellasyes (talk) 11:03, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to bother your talk page about this, TenTonParasol. I've added a note about this to User talk:Ktkvtsh#Newspapers ending print production. Novellasyes (talk) 11:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WRT to the strikes section removed from Draft:Mighty Nein; feel free to join the discussion at Talk:The Legend of Vox Machina#Strikes section, where an almost identical section was removed quoting a different P&G reason. Little pob (talk) 14:13, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-

• BeanieFan11 with 2582 points
• Thebiguglyalien with 1615 points
• Epicgenius with 1518 points
• MyCatIsAChonk with 1012 points
• BennyOnTheLoose with 974 points
• AirshipJungleman29 with 673 points
• Sammi Brie with 520 points
• Unlimitedlead with 5 points

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

• Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
• Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
• BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
• Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
• LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
• Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
• Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.

The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
• Vami_IV (submissions), with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
• MaranoFan (submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
• Skyshifter (submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
• Sammi Brie (submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
• voorts (submissions) and Elli (submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on

Hi @TenTonParasol. There's recent discussion about production company/distributor. 2001:D08:2952:70C:17B3:1883:ECAA:A9CE (talk) 11:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

• Generalissima (submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
• Vami_IV (submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
• Sammi Brie (submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
• MaranoFan (submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
• Skyshifter (submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

• GAs
  about radio and television;
• voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
• Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
• FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC
  and two GAs;
• Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
• Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]