User talk:Ceannlann gorm

For own reference, link to earlier (non-account) talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:83.70.251.222 Ceannlann gorm (talk) 18:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Beware! This user's talk page is patrolled by talk page stalkers.

Well, this was nice. Your IP had jumped once again, so I just saw a fourth IP on Gotland. All those IPs was really making my head spin, so I'm very grateful that you made an account. And please stay and make more edits! We do need good editors like you. Not many IPs make so good edits right of the bat. Well, you still have a lot to learn, but I've seen worse. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 19:07, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the compliment and again for the welcome mat. As for the jumping IPs, my internet connection/ISP is not the most reliable, I'm afraid. A textbook example of how not to do a privatisation.

Do you want me to stack the userboxes on your userpage for you? Left or right side? Once you see the code you will be able to muck them about yourself. (It is bad manners to touch another userpage without asking first.) w.carter-Talk 19:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you wouldn't mind, thanks! Ceannlann gorm (talk) 19:51, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right side, by the way! Ceannlann gorm (talk) 19:52, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - w.carter-Talk 20:06, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You revealed my secret identity. Aieeee!

Ceannlann gorm (talk) 20:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OOOPS!!! Put back the arrows quickly before someone sees it. Sorry.... w.carter-Talk 20:15, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah well, it had to come out someday. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 20:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious: Since your IP was designated to Dublin, does your user name mean "A blue blade" in Gaelic? w.carter-Talk 20:31, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's one of the possible meanings; another is 'blue armour' (Ceannlann was also a type of chain mail invented by the Celts). Ceannlann gorm (talk) 20:39, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For creating the new, very relevant but overlooked section about the military on Gotland. Good job! w.carter-Talk 21:09, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A chara, go raibh milie maith agat! Ceannlann gorm (talk) 21:13, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! :) Not bad for your first day as a regular user here on the WP. - w.carter-Talk 21:18, 14 March 2015 (UTC) - signing off for tonight[reply]

Hello! When you make a link like [[repair shop]] most such links are flexible so you might not have to worry about the capital letter at the beginning. Such things are mostly restricted to names and the likes. You can write the link with a lower case and check in the preview if it works before making the [[Repair shop|repair shop]]. But, in this case there is another problem. The repair shop does not link to a specific page, it links to a page where different kinds of "repair shop" can be found. You should always click on the links you make to see where you eventually end up. Pages like this are called disambiguation pages and most of the times you will get a Bot message that you have accidentally linked to such a page, asking you to clarify the "final destination". I have done that at Gotland#Military and you can see how it's done. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 11:41, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I wasn't sure whether the repair shop in this case was a backshop or a full blown tank repair depot, so I tried to square the circle. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 11:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I pass the old house for the shop each day on my way to work (I also saw it in action back in the days), not what I would call a full tank repair depot. Every part had to be shipped from the mainland when needed. w.carter-Talk 11:55, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that might well be the case, however since the relevant reference implied that it was at least a two story building I decided to opt for the cautious approach. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 14:54, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Small tip: A link to a disambiguation page is always wrong. If you are uncertain of what it is, don't link it at all. w.carter-Talk 16:27, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right you are. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 16:29, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ceannlann gorm! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. Be our guest at the Teahouse! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from peers and experienced editors. I hope to see you there! Jtmorgan (I'm a Teahouse host) talk) 20:06, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply ]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page

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In the spirit of today!

	A pitcher of Gotlandsdricka for you!
	For your hard work and to help you celebrate Saint Patrick's Day, here's a contribution from the "Celtic" part of Sweden. :D w.carter-Talk 10:25, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

<sithmode> Dricku is the national beverage of Gotland. The rest of the world is (thankfully) spared. It symbolizes and embodies the rebellious nature of Gotlanders and the harsh island. The un-official and very secret recipe for dricku is this: Take one (1) fairly large juniper. Hack it into moderately large pieces and place in a jerrycan. Do not remove anything! Dirt cleanses your system and spiders and bugs add flavor and protein. Add water and whatever is left in your pantry. Ferment until strong. The alcohol content is always a mystery, do not measure it. Dricku is the only beverage which can be consumed by people who never drink alcohol (see aforementioned mystery). It is also exempt from all laws and regulations about the selling, drinking and handling beverages. Note: All of the above is only valid on Gotland. An annual Dricku-making World Championship is held on Gotland at some illustrious location with a population larger that 14.</sithmode> w.carter-Talk 10:26, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

<Sith apprentice mode>Ah, thank you very much Master.</Sith apprentice mode> (Urgently rummages for Hazmat gear.) Ceannlann gorm (talk) 10:37, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! Not the first time I've had this reaction to our brew. ;) Ahh, back to work... w.carter-Talk 10:58, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We Irish have form with regards as to dangerous brews, poteen just being the best known example. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 11:13, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! As you may have noticed, my ordinary life keeps coming in the way of the WP right now. :( I saw you latest edits on Gotland. So a few pointers: There are currently a lot of rumors, actions, buzz, whatever, about Gotland and the military. The prudent WikiWay is to sit back wait until hearsay and political gambits solidify into facts. The Gotland article is a sort of general description of the island and everything on it. Due to your diligence it is now becoming a bit heavy in the military department. ;) No real harm in that, the facts are undoubtedly interesting and relevant, BUT it would be better to put most of it in the

So, I'll leave the edits in Gotland for now, but I would advice you to go with the facts that are now in the Draft and provide them with references and get a sort of "skeleton structure" going in it so that it can be moved to main rather soon. Once it is moved, you can still continue to add to it and improve it. There are already enough facts in it to go for a DYK, they just need to be ref'd. When that article gets going, we can move some of the things that are now in the Gotland article to the right place in your new article, and also trim down the Military section to a proportional size. I thought we were going to have time to do things more leisurely, but the current events about Gotland have speeded things up a bit. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 18:32, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@w.carter Roger that. I'll see if I can flesh out and tidy up enough areas in the draft this evening to set the stage for a final push tomorrow. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 10:37, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just to underline this, it seems, we had some "visitors" this morning: Sweden intercepts Russian planes over Baltic amid regional tensions. Btw, the code for the 'ping'-thing is (look in the code) @W.carter: or W.carter or even @W.carter:. With the w.carter you don't need the "@". Best, w.carter-Talk 16:17, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My plans for yesterday evening got disrupted a bit. However, I've caught up somewhat this morning and hope to have the draft, refs and all, ready for final chiseling and carving sometime this evening. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 13:26, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I saw that. Disasters must naturally take precedence. I'm glad that you call it "chiseling and carving" most newbies refer to it as the "sledge hammer". There are always so many thing that a new editor has not got into his blood, and in good faith he does all kinds of mistakes, so please don't take it personally when I correct things. One thing I notice is that you may have misunderstood the thing about the lead. That is supposed to be a very short version of the article for the lazy reader to get all the general facts in a few sentences. An abstract of the article. Right now it is more like an introduction (a very nice one, but still...) to the article. I can help you with that once I've gone through the article, or you can have a go at it yourself. I think I will have some time for the WP tonight and tomorrow.

I must also commend you on how far you have got in a very short time. :) Hope you are starting to feel at home in the community and that you have not been ill treated so far. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 13:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all, it's been great so far! I have to head away for a while, see you later on. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 13:58, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like your reversion has been reverted. In future, it's best if you actually try to explain why a See also has relevance rather than just revert their removal. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:37, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip The Rambling Man. You saved me the trouble of removing them since they're now redundant so far as regards the 'See also' section, given that Air Inter Flight 148 is in both the 'Accidents and incidents involving the Airbus A320 family' & 'List of accidents and incidents involving airliners by location § France' articles now linked in the section, and Air France Flight 178 is linked in the main text of the article itself. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 10:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your first article is LIVE!! I added the last refs, so the only thing left is a scrawny clarification. Very nice job indeed! Congrats. I did the usual housework for the Article & Co. So, now you have seven days to nominate it for DYK. I think you can do the honor yourself, otherwise just holler. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 22:21, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for your hard work and great advice! Ceannlann gorm (talk) 22:26, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

		The Sweden Barnstar of National Merit
		Is here given to Ceannlann gorm for contributing to an important, but previously neglected part of the Wikipedia. The readers out there and Wikipedians alike thank you for your article Military on Gotland. - w.carter-Talk 22:55, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Go raibh míle maith agat! Ceannlann gorm (talk) 22:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's lunchtime here and I am hungry - therefore many thanks for the cheeseburger :-) and it was a pleasure to do the chart, after I had scared half of Gortland senseless with this article [1]. Btw. I also did charts for other armies (i.e. Ireland: Irish Army#Composition). Any time you come along a military unit without chart or one that needs updating, please let me know. Cheers and thanks again for the appreciation :-) noclador (talk) 09:55, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello my young WikiWolfcub! Thank you for your addition to my museum draft. It is good that you practice by "chewing on my slippers" so you will not get into trouble with other editors. :) But this raised something you should know. If you are not working on a draft together with another editor, like we did on Military on Gotland, it is considered bad manners to edit a draft unless asked to by the editor(s) initiating it. This is to give the creator of the article a chance to finish the draft in peace and quiet before the article is thrown to the wolves in the main area. Suggestions can be left at the draft's talk page, though. As we have noticed, we had at least one editor chomping at the bit to add to the article (with a very good edit), but they waited until the article was in the main in accordance with good Wiki-etiquette. However, if drafts are left unattended for too long they end up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts where anyone can have a go at them. All the best, w.carter-Talk 17:20, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, sorry for the goof! Ceannlann gorm (talk) 17:38, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. How can you learn if you don't try? Cheers, w.carter-Talk 17:46, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep April Fools content out of the mainspace. Please see Wikipedia:Rules for Fools for more information. Thanks, Nakon 23:15, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You have been minnowed for not reading the instructions before opening the can of worms. w.carter-Talk 23:37, 31 March 2015 (UTC)^{[April Fools!]}[reply]

Good morning Nakon. I think you may be misinterpreting WP:Fools here. While three of the items concerned could conceivably fall into a grey area despite they're being properly formatted and tagged, the rest were unambiguously 'legal' under that policy, especially when you take the relevant formula into account. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 09:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC) ^{[April Fools!]}[reply]

Pssst, if you don't link/mention the editor AND sign during the same edit, the 'ping' will not be made and they will not be notified. - This message will not be destroyed in ten seconds, you have to vaporize it yourself. w.carter-Talk 09:11, 1 April 2015 (UTC) (the ever meddeling one)[reply]

This is your only warning: the next time you disrupt mainspace with one of your "jokes" I'll block you. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 10:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore - do not edit war to keep "jokes" in, mainspace or not. Worm^TT(talk) 10:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, My Young Apprentice, you have managed to invoke the actions of no less than three admins. The jokes are not worth that much aggravation. A friendly advice: Just walk away, and find some other way to celebrate

Wikipedia:FOOLS. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 10:28, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Wherein it states in bold - "All jokes and pranks must be kept out of the article namespace." - NQ (talk) 10:31, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Sounds like a good plan. People here do have some sense of humor, but the jokes have to be very, very subtle and not disturb the day to day business of the WP. My own most viewed joke was actually not made on 1 April and it was sort of in the main space, but it had a connection to my edits, so I got away with it. :) It was when I translated the Stockholm Palace from an FA on the SweWiki and I was bored out of my skull with having to come up with yet another edit summery for the translation. So I wrote this summery + the next. Those edits really spiked the Page views statistics. I'll take my pleasures wherever I can find them, however small. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 10:46, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whishing you a very pleasant holiday.

About editing here ... I often look at that as a sort of high stakes poker game: You don't "play" the articles or even the rules and recommendations, you play the editor (or community) opposite you. And as the old song says, the trick to survive and stay in the game here is to "know when to hold 'em ... when to walk away" and just count your money edits when the dyk is done. A trick I think you are getting the hang of... Cheers, w.carter-Talk 21:16, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Easter! Yes, a hasty 'advance to rearwards' seemed to be in order! Ceannlann gorm (talk) 17:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice of you to come up with more info to help that article into the main. :) If a user ask at the Teahouse to have an article moved to main, that means they consider the article ready. But since this user did not have the same benefit as you have of having a mentor, they have to ask for it to be reviewed. If the article looks good (and this one certainly did) you can leave a note at the users talk page and do what you can to help the article make it to main, even if it is in the sandbox or a draft. That is considered a good deed. There are some users/wikignomes at the Teahouse who almost specializes in helping articles along this way. ;) I have seen articles go from crap to admissible in hours this way. I just do the most obvious cases. (Lazy me...) w.carter-Talk 20:07, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Behavioral optometry , has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Lou Sander (talk) 19:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Bit of clarification

I really like to see how you have settled in here since you made the account. :) Adding to and fixing up stubs and rescuing articles from deletion are very noble tasks. Good job! Also I think I owe you a small clarification about why I dabble in military articles even though I no expert in that area. (Sorry for my previous curt answer.) My knowledge of military things, as well as some lingo, have rubbed of from friends, most of whom are in the military, Swedish and foreign. I've been to many camps and bases in several countries. I've seen friends off to wars, not all of them came back, and I use the same shooting ranges they do. So, I'm "adapted" to military stuff and can put in my two cents now and then in such articles, but it's grunt-knowledge and not up to par with your expertise. ;) Cheers, w.carter-Talk 19:57, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're far too modest, but thanks. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 20:18, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So when I was working on my museum draft, I found some pics in a book with old newspaper clippings that I uploaded in case you want to add some.

• File:Officerare Gotlands nationalbeväring 1880-talet.jpg
• File:Bataljonschefer Gotlands nationalbeväring 1880-talet.jpg
• File:Korsbetningen i VIsby utgrävning 1905.jpg

Cheers, w.carter-Talk 22:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I was going to use the Bataljonschefer image in the article, but couldn't quite fit it in to my satisfaction. I did put it in the Gotland National Conscription article though. See you around tomorrow, or should I say today. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 23:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo. I find 'em, you use 'em. I placed the Korsbetningen in the Battle of Visby article. w.carter-Talk 23:18, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hangouts

Thanks for trailing my edits and helping me clean up other articles. :) Still can't believe how you manage to find all those categories! When I don't feel like doing serious research I sometimes hang out at the Teahouse to see if any newbies have some articles in trouble, and I go in and do a bit of wikignome work. It's rather relaxing after major articles and policy battles. Another place to find easy stuff to do is at Category:All dead-end pages. Anything you do for those articles is an improvement. On occasion, even finding refs can be really easy, not too taxing and result in an ok article for the WP and some new knowledge for me, like when I fixed Francis Wallace (writer). w.carter-Talk 13:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw that you were battling with a Bot at Miyako-jima. I've suggested a solution. Revert if you don't like it. w.carter-Talk 12:45, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd already changed out the problem code, but your code will do just as well thanks. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 12:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The {{clear}} is preferred to just leaving blank lines and "breaks" since that arrangement is not quite stable. w.carter-Talk 12:51, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Have you ...

... seen this? w.carter-Talk 11:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, thanks for the heads up. Hmmmm. I get the impression from the article that the Supreme Commander is on shaky political ground indeed, perhaps even going so far as being the designated scapegoat in waiting for the current mess that Sweden's defences are in. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 15:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Melee

There was recently a deletion debate which you took part. The debate continues on the talk page of the article (see talk:Melee). Please join the debate so that a consensus can be reached on the initial issues of whether it is appropriate to include the maintenance {{coatrack}} at the top of the article Melee. --PBS-AWB (talk) 17:08, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Military on Gotland

On 19 May 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Military on Gotland, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after a ten-year hiatus, Sweden will reestablish its previously unbroken 200-year military presence on Gotland (unit crest pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Military on Gotland. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Harrias ^talk 00:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your expertise is needed

Hi! Do you think you can help me find some good categories for

this? I have been trying to locate something like "C:Structures/fortifications/whatever built in lakes/sea". This can't be the only thing built in a lake. Still some work to do on it before I release it into the main, but I would really appreciate some help with the categories. Best, w.carter-Talk 15:50, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply

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On it! Ceannlann gorm (talk) 15:54, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WOW! What can I say... You really are a wiz with the "cats". Thanks a lot! w.carter-Talk 16:26, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Who...

...needs Russian spies when... [2] w.carter-Talk 15:26, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Words fail me.

Ceannlann gorm (talk) 20:07, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Transferring old pics as I'm ditching my old mobile, I found this pic. Not sure if it's useful for anything, being low-res and all, just thought I should mention it. Tanks in Visby are not such a common sight. Yet. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 15:28, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Latest article

I've fixed

it up a bit more so it is not a stub anymore. Which means that you can DYK it if you want to. If you do it, you don't need a qpq for it. That kicks in after the fifth nomination. w.carter-Talk 16:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Or should I do It? It would be a shame to let it go to waste. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 09:08, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Go right ahead! With my one of my relatives sticking around for a few more days, I probably will only have time for hit and run raids on the wiki for the next while. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok! Don't worry about the WP, have a good time with your visitor! :) See you around, w.carter-Talk 14:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed, here. w.carter-Talk 14:57, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 2015 Swedish submarine wreck discovery

submarine wreck found off the Swedish east coast in July 2015 was most likely the Russian Som that sank in 1916? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2015 Swedish submarine wreck discovery. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply