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Symposium on Wikipedia and COVID-19 (May 9)

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Why in the world...

Wait, this isn't Buffalo...

...was there an RTL Turboliner at Columbus Union Station in 1977? Being delivered (where were they made?) or a press run, perhaps? Once again, you can thank Hikki Nagasaki for a rare shot and a mystery. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Pi.1415926535: That's puzzling. The National Limited was still in operation, but I can't believe they'd sub in Turboliner equipment. It has to be some kind of demonstration run. Mackensen (talk) 12:43, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Amtrak wasn't even using Columbus Union Station by November 1977 - though the smokestack indicates someone still was. Do you have any info on where the Turboliners were manufactured? I can't find it in the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Presumably Chula Vista, California. The sources I have access to don't discuss the fabrication and assembly in any depth. Mackensen (talk) 20:15, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • There's a reference to a press run here, though it's in 1976. That date makes more sense in any event; by November 1977 Union Station was disused and the RTLs were in revenue service. Mackensen (talk) 20:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Here is a RS that confirms that, and that the RTGs were indeed built in France. Do you mind adding it? (I'm not so skilled with Harvard style.) I've added a note to the file about the possible misdate. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WMATA color

FYI, this template has been recreated after it was deleted here. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/Transperth left/Armadale

McVahl (talk) 10:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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I was looking to expand the said article with new entries, the recent Pakistan Stock Exchange attack but found it deleted. I thought to create it but then thought of requesting for restoration if possible. USaamo (t@lk) 12:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @USaamo: there wasn't much in the original article, and given the reason for deletion it's probably better to start with a clean edit history. Mackensen (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How about moving thr said article into draft space to work on and then publish? USaamo (t@lk) 13:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Protection indefinite

Is there by any chance you could protect these articles Strasburg Rail Road and Canadian National 7312 indefinite. Because various IP address users keeps changing the info on both articles without sourcing the information first, it has gone too far and they both need to be protected indefinite to prevent any further damage. 2600:1000:B016:75F1:ECFF:9F72:5B04:ACD9 (talk) 18:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination for merging of
Template:Infobox GB station

Template:Infobox GB station has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox station. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:45, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Category:New South Wales rail succession templates

See [1] I have started to convert these to Adjacent stations which is going to be a big job - over 100 templates involved. I am trying to get rid of as many of these templates as possible and I think I can achieve this for most except the color and style templates. In the case of color templates some articles I have converted like Victoria Cross railway station when I edit them again and then look at what templates are used, they show some unexpected ones. For this station I would not have expected Template:Sydney Trains color or Template:NSW TrainLink color to be shown and possibly also Template:Sydney Metro color although the third one may be present because this station does use Metro options in the Adjacent stations. Do you know why these templates would come up in this station? I am making some use of Module:Adjacent stations/State Rail Authority which you created last year.

  • On a different subject I recently read something about the succession templates for the Sydney City Circle (written by you back in about 2007). In the conversion to Adjacent stations I have totally rehashed the information as shown in Circular Quay railway station. Any comments? Fleet Lists (talk) 07:18, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have found that they are brought in by Template:Transport for New South Wales railway stations which will be hard to get rid of. So we might be stuck with the color templates. Or do you know of any other solution?Fleet Lists (talk) 08:14, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The {{
rcr}} templates can be used to display colors and related information that are defined in the adjacent stations modules. I helped with this on {{Public Transport Authority of Western Australia railway stations}}, which is basically the same concept. Mackensen (talk) 11:37, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
Thanks for that - I had actually just found the Western Australian template when you replied so I was on the right track. Fleet Lists (talk) 12:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have now amended Template:Transport for New South Wales railway stations for Sydney Metro only as a trial which reduced the number of links to Template:Sydney Metro color from over 400 to 53 which was promising. There were a number of stations listed which can be explained as they have not yet been converted to Adjusted Stations. But there were a number of train lines listed for example Olympic Park railway line which were either caused by Template:TFNSW_lines or Template:TFNSW nav/Sydney Trains and Metro which I have both changed resolving all problems. Thank you. I will do the other operators as I get time. Fleet Lists (talk) 03:47, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am surprised at how many templates and articles I have found which have needed changing but I think I have now covered most with
Template:Rint still causing some problems which I hope to solve in the next couple of days - I will then need to submit the changes for update. I hope to make the last change for Sydney Metro tomorrow so that I can start on a deletion request for all templates in the Sydney Metro category. Module:Adjacent stations/State Rail Authority is causing me some concern as it includes closed lines which may or may not have been operated by the State Rail Authority with up to 20 more such lines to be added. I have already changed the title within the module to "Closed Lines" which seems more appropriate. However if I move the module to a name like "Closed Lines in NSW" I believe a redirect will not be created. What would be the best process to achieve this?Fleet Lists (talk) 04:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
Well, it depends. If they didn't operate them then I'd find the entity that did and make a separate module. If they did operate them then I think it's fine to commingle current and former lines; that's done with many other systems. I wouldn't incorporate "closed lines" into the actual name of the module. Mackensen (talk) 11:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I have added a comment about this on the documentation page. We have comingled current and recently closed lines in the Sydney Trains module.Fleet Lists (talk) 23:46, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Sydney Metro color

Template:Sydney Metro color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [2]. This is the first step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stations Fleet Lists (talk) 02:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Aug 16: Great American Wiknic NYC & Beyond

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Newcastle Light Rail color

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Closed Lines color

Template:Closed Lines color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [4]. This is the third step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stationsFleet Lists (talk) 05:30, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adjacent stations: Preceding and Following

Per another one of these edits, do you think we should consider renaming/replacing "Preceding" and "Following"? I also need you to be the second opinion with that edit regardless. Cards84664 06:39, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cards84664, preceding/following have been the standard since at least 2005. I'm not of the mind to change them; I barely even look at them. For me it's more important that left/right vaguely corresponds to whatever map is in play. I'm not a fan of the outcome of that edit, but I suppose the editor has a point, semantically. Mackensen (talk) 12:14, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of GSR (a.k.a. Journey Beyond) related templates

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Happy First Edit Day!

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Precious anniversary

Precious
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Newcastle Ferries color

Template:Newcastle Ferries color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [5]. This is the fourth step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stationsFleet Lists (talk) 02:10, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Brisbane Ferry templates

Deprecated {{s-line}} templates replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Brisbane Ferries. Fleet Lists (talk) 05:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Brisbane Light Rail templates

Deprecated {{s-line}} templates replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/G:link. Fleet Lists (talk) 00:47, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Sydney Trains color

Template:Sydney Trains color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [6]. This is the fifth step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stationsFleet Lists (talk) 04:55, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Sydney Ferries color

Template:Sydney Ferries color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [7]. This is the sixth step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stations Fleet Lists (talk) 03:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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In conversion to Adjacent Stations for New South Wales only at this stage, I would like to see the links to Break of Gauge particularly and to a lesser extent to Mywee suppressed. Is there any way this can be done. Or do you have a better way of doing this. Thanks in advance.Fleet Lists (talk) 10:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fleet Lists, if I understand the situation there are two lines at Tocumwal, the Victoria (broad gauge) and New South Wales (standard gauge) Tocumwal lines. I wouldn't mention the break-of-gauge at all, not in adjacent stations. Mackensen (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:TransLink (SEQ) color

Template:TransLink (SEQ) color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to Template:TransLink (SEQ) style, Template:Translink color, Template:Translink lines, Template:Translink stations, Template:Translink style, Template:S-line/Translink left/Eastern, Template:S-line/Translink left/Northern, Template:S-line/Translink left/South East, Template:S-line/Translink right/Eastern, Template:S-line/Translink right/Northern and Template:S-line/Translink right/South East Fleet Lists (talk) 05:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GE E25B

I got bored and stubbed out an article on the GE E25B; hopefully I didn't step on your toes there. It's right up with the M-K TE70-4S in obscurity, and perhaps even harder to find good information on. None of the three sources agree on when the last two locomotives arrived, and Kalmbach gives horsepower and length that contradict other sources. (Kalmbach's 2500hp would match the designation, but two other sources indicate 4000hp). Unfortunately I don't think it's closely related enough to the E60 to just have a paragraph there. Any additions or comments would be welcome; it looks like there may have been a 1976 Railway Age article if you have access. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:37, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No toes were stepped on; I hadn't found much on it and no plans to write it up. That's a puzzling discrepancy with the horsepower. I'm wondering if this is similar to what happened with the EMD SDP40F (see EMD SDP40F#Design), wherein GE argues no, it's just a GE U25B with a pantograph, never mind the horsepower difference. Mid-1970s is square in the digitization hole, unfortunately, and given the pandemic my access to some sources is limited. Mackensen (talk) 11:46, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Pacific News had a write-up which I've linked in the article. They come down in favor of 2500 hp and furthermore say this: "The two thousand five hundred horsepower, spread among the four traction motors, provides 625 horsepower at each axle for coal hauling." Mackensen (talk) 12:10, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Pi.1415926535: there's an interesting entry here: [8] (go down to page 37). I haven't had any luck tracking down that paper or the proceedings yet, but I expect it would contain the definitive answer. Mackensen (talk) 01:01, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Chris Creighton

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Nomination for deletion of Template:NSW TrainLink intercity color

Template:NSW TrainLink intercity color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. The deletion request includes a further 40 templates or template redirects for deletion under Intercity templates part1. Fleet Lists (talk) 04:46, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Charleston Amtrak station from 1/16/2008

Hey! I am really sorry if this is not the correct way to get in contact with you, but the Wikimedia page really confuses me! There are pictures at http://www.trainweb.org/usarail/charlestonsc.htm of the Charleston Amtrak station from 1/16/2008. I have been researching (A LOT) to try and find the creator of that page and have landed on you. Are these your pictures? I am researching an incident that happened near the tracks on that day in that area. I was hoping you might be able to either send me the photos, or let me know where I might find the photos with the original metadata. I am also interested in any other pictures you may have taken from the area that day, and if you have any memory or documentation of the schedule of the trains that day. I know it is a long shot, but I have found that train enthusiasts are excellent at data collection! Thank you so much! Chelsea [email protected] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dobination (talkcontribs) 00:09, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dobination, hello, thanks for reaching out. I did not take those pictures; they were taken by Hikki Nagasaki, who runs the USA Rail Guide. Unfortunately, he no longer publishes his contact information so I'm not sure the best way to get in touch with him. Best, Mackensen (talk) 00:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/NSW TrainLink left/Nowra

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October 18: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC (plus weekend editathons)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:NSW TrainLink color

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Template:Template:Infobox T&W Metro station has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox station. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:QR color

Template:QR color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. The deletion request includes a further 28 templates or template redirects for deletion under Queensland Rail templates part 1. Fleet Lists (talk) 02:20, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

December 16, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

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Dining car menus

In case you hadn't seen it on your trips there, NWU has a sizable collection of scanned dining car menus. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:53, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I had no idea this existed! Thank you! Mackensen (talk) 12:29, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:GoldLinQ color

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Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/Victoria left/Alamein

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Victoria color

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Australian closed station style

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January 15, 6pm: Wikimedia NYC celebrates 20 years of Wikipedia

Wikipedia Day is always a big day for Wikimedia NYC. While we cannot meet in person, we still have something special planned. We will begin the event with the debut of a new video celebrating our community. This will be followed by a panel discussion with some of the people you'll see in the video talking about Wikipedia's 20th anniversary, Wikimedia New York City, and the amazing work they do on Wikimedia projects.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Puffing Billy Railway color

Template:Puffing Billy Railway color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. The deletion request includes a further five deletion requests for Puffing Billy templates Fleet Lists (talk) 02:47, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:S-line/CityRail left/City Circle has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. The deletion request includes a further 7 templates for deletion under More New South Wales unused deprecated templates. This concludes the conversion of Australian succession templates to Adjacent Stations, except for South Australia for which I do not have the necessary information. This has involved the deletion of 463 templates throughout New South Wales, Victoria and QueenslandFleet Lists (talk) 02:14, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

COVID-19 survivors

How come this category is locked? We have a cateogry for Cancer survivors. Why should COVID-19 survivors not get a category too? --ThisIsSparta2007 (talk) 12:45, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ThisIsSparta2007, this was discussed last March at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 March 9#Category:People with coronavirus disease 2019. The consensus at the time was that having COVID was a non-defining characteristic. There was a brief follow-up discussion in September: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 September 14. Best, Mackensen (talk) 12:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CF du ARB

No need to ping me anymore, I'm watching the article/talk page for the next week. Mjroots (talk) 17:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston § Requested move 10 February 2021. Hi there! Just thought to let you know of my proposal to move this article back to the title you had chosen just over fifteen years ago. Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

February 17, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC
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PATCO

Did the speedline open on February 15th (link) or January 4th (link), 1969? PATCO themselves don't seem to know. (I started researching the under-studied Philadelphia-Seashore lines, but I was instantly stumped by this) Cards84664 20:26, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Cards84664: Both dates are half-correct. Bridge Line trains (16th+Locust–Camden) were suspended on December 29, 1968, for conversion. The Camden–Lindenwold segment opened January 4; the 16th+Locust–Camden segment reopened on February 15. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, if the Philadelphia segment was supposed to open on February 1st as noted in the article, the February 15th date needs to be removed from the NJ station articles and I’ll do that now. Cards84664 21:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Pi.1415926535: Does “Camden” on January 4th refer to City Hall or Broadway on the subway? Cards84664 21:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Cards84664: The former Bridge Line service was to Broadway, with City Hall as an intermediate station. The January 4th segment went as far as City Hall, with Broadway an intermediate. See here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Closure date of Oakland

Because of a recent IP edit, I'm trying to nail down exactly when 16th Street station (or more accurately, the post-1989 temporary station) closed. The source in the article says August 5, 1994, but Amtrak in the Heartland (p. 153) says August 21. Newspapers.com wasn't helpful. Any chance you have relevant sources? Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 08:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Amtrak in the Heartland splits the difference; in that service to Emeryville starts on August 5, but that the temporary station closes on August 21. Sanders gives his source as various bulletins and railfanning publications. Our article is relying on the NARP bulletin which doesn't make that distinction. Pacific Rail News follows Sanders in giving two dates: [9] (page 4). Mackensen (talk) 12:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Feb 25, 1:30-5pm: Black Wiki History Month at the Schomburg Center

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Reading Railroad module

After pouring over eight decades of Official Guides (1895–1965), as well as various branch timetables, I have gone ahead and updated the Reading module. In the Philadelphia area, I have changed the terminus of "Reading Terminal" to "Philadelphia" in the module, as this was biased towards 30th Street station. Second, I have denoted the difference between Philadelphia–Pottsville (Main Line) and Norristown Branch (Local) services (at Conshohocken station, for example). Third, I have added all remaining missing Reading branches to the module (see Reading Depot, for example). Fourth, I have redesigned the header signage, it no longer looks like a recolored NYC header. I was unable to add the white border, but we don't really need it. In regards to Reading Depot, the official sources don't use "outer station", (unless you know offhand if this was on signage and can cite it). Finally, I have transferred all physical track succession to actual services c. 1910–1940 (The link to Ninth Street Branch is retained in the "line" infobox parameter). Now that reliable schedule information has been sorted out, I can start gathering references for articles such as Girard Avenue station (linked via Temple University station, for example). In the coming weeks I will also be creating a module for the Philadelphia–Reading Seashore Lines. Cards84664 17:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 6, 12:30pm: Met Women's History Month Virtual Edit Meet-up

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community and the Metropolitan Museum of Art for our The Met x Wikipedia Virtual Edit Meet-up: Women's History Month.

We will be partially coordinating with Art+Feminism and all of the International Women's Day and Women's History Month campaigns.

Watch and join the livestream! The Metropolitan Museum of Art event on Saturday Mar 6 will host a tutorial and question-and-answer session live on YouTube and other social media platforms.

  • 12:30 pm - 1:30 pm - Presentation
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"Gallery of Presidents of the United States" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect

Gallery of Presidents of the United States. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 11#Gallery of Presidents of the United States until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Mdewman6 (talk) 03:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply
]

March 13, 12-5pm: Asia Art Archive in America: Art and Feminism Edit-a-thon

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community and Asia Art Archive for our fourth annual (and first virtual) Asia Art Archive in America: Art and Feminism Edit-a-thon!

Organized by Asia Art Archive in America and NaPupila in collaboration with Asia Art Archive in Hong Kong and supported by Wikimedia NYC, this event brings together participants to discuss, create, share, and improve Wikipedia articles about women and non-binary artists.

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March 17, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC with Wikimedia Community Ireland for St Patrick's Day
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This month will also include a discussion of Black WikiHistory Month in February and WikiWomen's History Month and Art+Feminism in March, and of course the great work that is being done in these topical areas throughout the year. If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or the talk page.

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Spring Garden Street station

FYI, looks like Spring Garden Street station is on the ropes. I'm trying to reach out to the Philly wiki meetup group in hopes someone can get some pictures. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:42, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have enough sources of information on the demolished Reading stations to create articles? (Girard Avenue, Tioga, Logan, Nicetown) Cards84664 23:30, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cards84664, I went looking during my Reading phase (2016?) and didn't find much, not even articles on their closure, which I would consider the bare minimum. The problem is those names are just generic enough to flood the newspapers.com search. Mackensen (talk) 23:53, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've finished up Module:Adjacent stations/Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines, let me know if I missed any articles that weren't in the station category. Cards84664 04:08, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Module:Adjacent stations/Thello

Module:Adjacent stations/Thello has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:45, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Is there is any way to delete Draft:Fulguni Nair? Logical Puzzle (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fulguni Nayar Logical Puzzle (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Fulguni Nayar Logical Puzzle (talk) 14:02, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Falguni Nayar Logical Puzzle (talk) 14:02, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply
]

Logical Puzzle, you've expressed concern over the prose, and that is indeed why the submission was declined. That doesn't justify an immediate deletion. Unless there is some other reason why it should be deleted at once, then no, there isn't at this time. Mackensen (talk) 14:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Errors in judgement?

I assume you're talking about Choess' posts at this link. I see the gadfly part but I don't see errors in judgement. Quote? EEng 15:15, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

EEng, apologies, the wording is slightly different. This is the relevant portion: It's on balance a beneficial role, but incredibly polarizing, so that after some period of playing it, you'll have one group of people who are out to indef you on any pretext whatsoever, and another group that will write apologetics for you, even when you really are incivil to someone who didn't deserve it, or otherwise commit an error in judgment. I no longer have any idea which is the correct way to spell judgment, if there be a correct way. Mackensen (talk) 15:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I remember that quote, strikingly cogent. But EEng, you never really answered Mackensen's question did you? So what do you think about the implications of the above for you? Paul August 12:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's still on my ping list, and see the P.S. here [10] EEng 13:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Good. Thanks. (Please ping me when you do, thanks). Paul August 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Valentine Browne

Dear Mackensen. Thank you so much for fixing my error with removing the Sir from the biographies of baronets. I thought Valentine Browne, 2nd Baronet was enough, but WP:NCPEER sees it differently as you pointed out. I am sorry. Thanks again. I will of course comply. I will also check whether I have not made that same mistake somewhere else and correct it where needed. Best regards Johannes Schade (talk) 15:25, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Johannes Schade, no worries, and no apology needed. The convention is somewhat arcane and not at all obvious. Best wishes, Mackensen (talk) 15:28, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crusader IP

Could you give 68.190.131.26 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) a longish block? They've been stable on that IP since August 2020, and the recent 1-month block has clearly not worked. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Let's try three months. Mackensen (talk) 01:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet

Dear Mackensen. I got myself into trouble. I had created an article George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, which had been reviewed and accepted, and edited a few times. You made me realise it must be called Sir George... according to WP:NCPEER, fine. So I moved it to Sir George... . However, there was a stupid redirect with that name to Courtenay Baronets. Now there seem to be two Sir George... . How should I have handled this correctly? With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 17:10, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle, while Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet redirects to Courtenay baronets. Naturally, you'd like the article to be where the redirect is? The way to handle this would be to move the article over the redirect and then place a note at the top. I can handle that, if you confirm that I understand the situation correctly. Best, Mackensen (talk) 17:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply
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WP:RFD. Cheers, 51.79.156.12 (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply
]
Dear Mackensen. I want the article George Courtenay, 1st Baronet to be moved to Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet and the Redirect of that name deleted. When I tried to move it, I was not aware of the Redirect's existence. I then blanked the Redirect as I had read somewhere that this can be interpreted as a request for deletion, but I should have used something more explicit, Thank you very much, Johannes Schade (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle into a redirect as well, is that correct? 51.79.156.12 (talk) 19:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply
]
It is all fine now. Thanks all very much!!! Johannes Schade (talk) 19:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it up now, I think. Mackensen (talk) 19:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you did there is of course only one Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet. With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 20:04, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your opinion

Hi. I just wanted to invite you to the discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Leonore, Duchess of Gotland (2nd nomination). Since you had previously participated in similar discussions, I thought you might be able to provide us with some insights regarding this article. Thank you. Keivan.fTalk 16:18, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April 21, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC with Environmental focus
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