User talk:Nizil Shah/Archive 11

When new page is patrolled, I should be careful that it passes some minimum criteria. I know that both articles are notable but references should be there so nobody drag it to AFD easily or unnecessarily.-Nizil (talk) 05:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Regarding WP:autopatrolled, they are very strict in granting it. Generally 25 articles are required demonstrating good understanding of various guidelines but the rights are granted to only trustworthy. You may not worry about it as this rights are just that your articles need not be patrolled. Eventually you may get it by some admin who regularly watches your work. You may apply if you wish to have it granted soon.Regards,-Nizil (talk) 05:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

WP:GNG and independent guidelines. Brihaspati (talk)

05:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Brihaspati: Both are passed for now but add good references and more categories asap. There should be some independent sources for Oak with biographical info. I have added bdate/ddate of categorisation convenience. Basic biographical source should be enough to have him an article. Thanks,-Nizil (talk) 05:26, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, You have just reverted my edits, which was edited after prolonged discussions with an Editor. you have raised

@Santoshdts: Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. I have tagged your as "assumed good faith" edits so they were not bad edit or vandalism. Please take care capitals while editing such as Political etc here.

I know Somnath is equated with Manat^[1][2][3] but it is disputed and controversial. Please build a consensus on talkpage before inserting the controversial thing IMO.

The text I removed was:

The purpose of the raid could have been Political, Economic in nature and undoubtedly Iconoclasm was also one of the reason.^[4] Some Muslim writers established connections to an idol of "Manāt" from Ka‘ba with Somanatha. They said "Somanatha or Somnāt (as it was often rendered in Persian) was a garbled version of su-manāt — referring to the goddess Manāt.”^[5]

Here it says, according to Thapar: The identification of Somnath idol with that of Manat has little historical credibility. There is no evidence to suggest that the temple housed an image of Manat. Nevertheless, the story is significant to the reconstruction of the aftermath of the event since it is closely tied to the kind of legitimation which was being projected for Mahmud.

So there is little historical credibility in claims of Muslim writers. So I have removed it. Built the consensus on talkpage on how to represent this thing exactly because improper represent of this can lead to unending edit war there. Hope it clarified. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 14:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

@Kautilya3:, inviting you for additional comments, if any. Is it discussed before? See Manat (goddess) too.-Nizil (talk) 14:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I shall henceforth take care of capitals in such scenarios. I agree with your interpretation on manat. Even I don't have any issue of that being removed. Then my contention is, what is the whole section on Somanath Templeton doing in the main article on Manat? However, the motive of the destruction of temple and joytirling can still remain leaving out the manat part. Thanks. Santoshdts (talk) 14:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I have discussed this issue with @Kautilya3: plz see discussion here. Santoshdts (talk) 15:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

@Santoshdts: Thanks for pointing me to discussion. I am glad that it is already discussed. You may reinstate it with some modification. Instead of "Some Muslim writers" use specific names of writers like "XYZ and ABC wrote PQRPQR.". And Please also add that: The claim was used to legitimise Mahmud's act by those writers in the aftermath of the event. The claim has no historical credibility according to Thapar. Please also post links to this two discussions on Talk:Somnath so nobody else object it again. You may improve section on Manat article as well if needed. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 15:46, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Santoshdts, the discussions you have with editors like me on our talk pages have the status of "private chats". You cannot cite them as justification for making edits. Any discussion of that kind needs to happen on the article talk pages.

Moreover, I didn't agree that your text was good enough. When I pointed you to

WP:weasel

wording like "some Muslim writers", without establishing any connection to Mahmud. So its relevance is not at all clear.

Finally, even if you reached an agreement with me, it doesn't mean that everybody else has to agree to it. You need to answer their concerns as well. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

@Nizil Shah: Thanks for the clearing out my doubts and errors. I agree "Some Muslim writers" could have been avoided. I'll rephrase the edit accordingly and surely link these discussions to the article talk page.

@Kautilya3: I linked our discussion on your talk page as Nizil invited you to look in to the matter, no other intentions. Anyhow I shall rework know my edit. Thanks. Santoshdts (talk) 16:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

And it's clearly my bad that, instead of discussing the issue on the article talk page, I took it to user talk pages. Sorry for that. Santoshdts (talk) 16:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

On 3 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Malayanil, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Indian writer Malayanil was a pioneer of modern short-story writing in the Gujarati language? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Malayanil. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Malayanil), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Can you review Brahmkumar Bhatt? And do you have any sources which give more details about his political affiliations in pre-independence era? His name suddenly came in mind because I am currently reading his Le Ke Rahenge Mahagujarat. It is nice read, by the way.-- Brihaspati (talk) 09:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

@Brihaspati:, already reviewed. I will try to find more sources on him. Regards, Nizil (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

pinging Gazal world here. Brihaspati (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Pl review Harihar Khambholja too. Thanks-- Brihaspati (talk) 02:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Brihaspati: I will obtain the details about Brahmkumar Bhatt when I visit the library after lockdown end. There is a directory which provides biographical information about each politicians of Gujarat. --Gazal world (talk) 03:20, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

This book also has some useful biographical info about him including date of birth and place. --Gazal world (talk) 03:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Nizil Shah. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for Mumbai Gujarati Natak Mandali at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! --Puddleglum2.0(How's my driving?) 02:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, Nizil Shah, Can I know the reason for marking Indian Police brutality amid lockdown unpatrolled ? Thanks. Amkgp (talk) 18:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

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WP:N. It is already under deletion discussion. I would rather speedy deleted it but as it is under discussion so I will not. The information does not need separate article at all and can be covered in the main article easily.-Nizil (talk

) 18:08, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

WP:NPOV. Thanks. Amkgp (talk

) 18:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Amkgp:, Unpatrolling helps to remove it from search result displays and other visibility. Patrolled pages fulfill minimum criteria while it is just plain rubbish article.-Nizil (talk) 18:12, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

You are right Nizil Shah, thank you for correcting. Amkgp (talk) 18:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Nizil Shah : why do you think it is rubbish article eventhough it has an international reference. Saifullah.vguj (talk) 02:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

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WP:MOS guidelines either. Hope it clarifies. Nizil (talk

) 03:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

2020 coronavirus lockdown in India does not have any talk running and it is write protected can you clarify regarding that? Saifullah.vguj (talk

) 06:34, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

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WP:MOS to understand some basic policies. Regards,-Nizil (talk

) 06:47, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

On 22 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Amar Asha, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mahatma Gandhi praised the Gujarati-language poem "Amar Asha" ('Immortal Hope'), saying that both Hindus and Muslims "should be proud of it"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Amar Asha. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Amar Asha), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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@Evrik: Ohh, thanks. -Nizil (talk) 14:42, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Nizil shah...I hope you are well during these times. Can you guide me with this? The link to the 2020 version was sent to me by a colleague in Mumbai at midday today....they wanted to extend appreciation to UK key workers. The lyrics are incredible and the story of the song more complex than initially appears. It appears that Modi and the Indian cricket team have also used the lyrics. Sorry...I wasn't sure who else to turn to. The Hindi is correct (I can read and write it).Whispyhistory (talk) 23:23, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Whispyhistory:, I am doing well and working only few hours a day right now. How are you doing? How can I help? I can not understand your request clearly. Nizil (talk) 19:18, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear you are ok. I think I have my head around this now...so don't worry if you are tied up with other things. I was taught Hindi by an incredible French lady who taught Sanskrit and Russian in Paris. I'm not perfect, but if it is simple enough I can read it easily. The lyrics to the song are quite touching. I noticed it has been used in government campaigns and sports campaigns, but I couldn't find any reliable sources for that. If you could look over the sources and let me know if I have used any that are not appropriate. I noticed you have previously written on poetry. Should I add the lyrics to the article? Thank you. Take care. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:31, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

I will look into it. -Nizil (talk) 12:24, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

@Whispyhistory: I know Hindi so you are right place. :) I could not find any sources regarding its use either by Modi or Indian Cricket team. Videos created by fans are found but no references of an actual use were found. If you are refereeing this Mitti Ki song referred by Modi, it is different. I thinks lyrics should not be added due to copyright issue. I have added poem in Amar Asha because original poem was in public domain and I had translated it. I have corrected a small typo in the article. Please take care of you and your family in this crisis. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 12:42, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you ... Philafrenzy will be pleased that someone else is correcting my spelling. I'll spend some more time on it shortly. You take care too. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:31, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

According to academic research, being multi-lingual gives you a better brain. You are both evidence of the truth of that. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:02, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

I think NizilShah does amazing to contribute to all those English articles. Can you imagine us trying to do one in Hindi Philafrenzy?...btw...need a dyk hook, but I have a lot more to do on it first? Whispyhistory (talk) 20:17, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

I can imagine you writing it and me making a minor contribution. Offer a few hooks in the nom and I will see if I can improve them. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:08, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Nizil Shah, nice to see you active in Jainism articles after a break. Jainism is under the process of GA and currently going through NPOV verification. I thought it would be nice to notify you too. Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 14:37, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo:, Thanks for inviting. I will be watching the review. I am active here but not much in religious stuff nowadays due to other priorities. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 16:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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@Titodutta: Thanks. They are delicious. We make it at home. -Nizil (talk) 16:18, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello. I wanted to invite you to

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Elijahandskip: Thanks for inviting. I am regular contributor to ITN but have not joined WikiProject yet. I will surely join it. Regards,-Nizil (talk

) 16:19, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Nizil Shah. It has been over six months since you last edited the

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Hi..Your thoughts? May be one of your colleagues can fix. Some clarity probably required

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British India should be considered as India or not. I think undivided India should be considered as India. In that sense Fatima was the first. I searched about Tabitha Soloman. She should be considered as second dentist, or the first "Indian" dentist if we consider Fatima as Pakistani. Vimla Sood described as the first Indian woman dentist in sources but she graduated in 1944 so it is not true as per our research. Fatima practised in Bombay so I think she should be considered as the "first woman dentist of India".-Nizil (talk

) 07:01, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Good detective work. I might tackle Tabitha Solomon sooner than later. Thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:06, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks, @

बृहस्पति:. If you are stuck somewhere, feel free to ask me. I will be happy to help.-Nizil (talk

) 12:59, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@Nizil Shah: Hi Nizil, I am TSAray and I want to thank you for all the articles you have written regarding Gujarati History, People and Society. I have been editing [[1]] please let me know if the changes I have made are fine and if you have any suggestions for the future. Kind regards, TSAray (talk) 19:38, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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Mer people looks good to me. Keep it up. Regards,-Nizil (talk

) 12:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@Nizil Shah: Thanks! TSAray (talk) 09:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

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I created my Wikipedia account and published 2 articles, Which deleted in no time, may be those are not as per Wikipedia guideline. Then I requested admin who deleted my pages to retrieve that data, So I can improve those articles as per Wikipedia guidelines or may those data helps me in future. I am talking with him but I can't get proper conclusion on my doubts. He deleted my

I will request to retrieve it as a draft. The topic is notable but title needs change. Hotel Patang will work probably. Official name can be added as I did with Ahmedabad Town Hall. Give me some time to retrieve it. -Nizil (talk) 14:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Please Help/Guide me further on this issue.

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) 08:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Requesting you to review

On 1 June 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Prahlad Jani, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 00:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

If you would like to copy-edit/expand this new article created by User:Santoshdts. --Gazal world (talk) 18:13, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

On 23 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Teri Mitti, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Manoj Muntashir originally wrote "Teri Mitti" as a tribute to soldiers, then wrote a reprise as a tribute to healthcare workers during the COVID-19 pandemic in India? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Teri Mitti. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Teri Mitti), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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