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The result was delete. -

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VirusBurst

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A prior AfD closure as "Keep" was overturned at deletion review and is now back here for reconsideration. Please consider the prior discussions, especially the lack of tangible evidence in the first AfD cited as reason to overturn the closure. This is a procedural listing, so I have no opinion. ~ trialsanderrors 23:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. --

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İTÜ Sözlük

İTÜ Sözlük (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) — (View AfD)

Apparently non-notable website, no indication of how it satisfies

WP:OR, no external sources. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. -

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The Sawtooth Grin

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Doesn't seem to meet

WP:MUSIC. Contested prod. MER-C 09:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete, non-notable. yandman 10:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, doesn't even list the last names of the band members. NawlinWiki 19:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete A7. So tagged. --Dennisthe2 23:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Change vote to weak keep. The page has since been improved by authors - good call. Google research (see the article's talk page) pulls up just about 10k ghits that aren't here or on Myspace, so there's something of notability. Little on Wikipedia links to the article, but that may be irrelevant. I can't say better than weak keep for the grounds that it's notable within its genre (case in point: much of the furry related deletions that have happened here on WP), but I can no longer in good conscience at all say delete knowing that there's just about 10k ghits and therefore some notability. --Dennisthe2 22:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Cbrown1023 01:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pixel script

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A page essentially based around advertising competing pixel advertising scripts. Prod tag removed so brought it here. Mallocks 13:11, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, adcruft. Makgraf 05:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Delete per CSD A7.

Naconkantari 03:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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John McBon

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Hoax biography for an actor/researcher who doesn't exist. Google search only references pages from and linking to Wikipedia, and no entry under his name exists on IMDb nor the show pages for his alleged roles.

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The result was delete. Punkmorten 15:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don V. Plantz

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Google-search for "Don V. Plantz" gets 22 hits, most of them seem to concern an economist. The article in question is the biography of a geologist and a teacher (with a Ph.D.) at Mohave Community College, Mohave Valley Campus, Bullhead, Arizona (Google-search for "Don Plantz"). Notability? Oden 01:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Fails
    WP:BIO. Tevildo 15:05, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Speedy Delete per CSD G11.

Naconkantari 04:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Maid Marian Entertainment

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Non-notable web-based software company. Fails

WP:WEB: no more than trivial coverage, no awards, no other notable achievements. Almost all Google hits are press releases, advertisements, and Wikipedia mirrors. Article reads like an advertisement from start to finish; I don't see any neutral and notable content worth keeping. Kafziel Talk 14:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Deleted per

WP:HOAX - Smerdis of Tlön 05:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Sceabhar na dheasa

Looks suspiciously like a hoax to me, and there's nothing on google which indicates verifiability there. Anyone with the Gael who can translate the title, at least, to give some indication of what we're dealing with? Grutness...wha? 00:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Punkmorten 15:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

French Teen Idol

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Notability-tagged since June. "french teen idol" "andrea di carlo" -wikipedia -myspace gets 19 unique ghits. De-prodded without comment. Pan Dan 14:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, does not meet WP:MUSIC. Punkmorten 16:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Delete per CSD A7.

Naconkantari 03:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Brad Wallace

Note: orphaned AFD. I have no idea what's going on, but am simply adding it here. --Calton | Talk 00:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I started this article. Brad Wallace is a musician who has appeared on literally dozens of contemporary DIY hardcore punk recordings. This article simply needs more work and I have just gotten in touch with people who will improve it. --Driscoll 17:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. Overwhelming consensus that the band is both notable and the article can be verified. --Kind Regards -

Heligoland | Talk | Contribs 11:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Goblin Cock

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Has released only one record on minor label, has gone on one sub-national tour, and gets insufficient press coverage so that it does not meet

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The result was Speedy Delete (A1).--Húsönd 04:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mana (musician) gallery

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A gallery of copyrighted images with no text -

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The result was Delete

Naconkantari 20:21, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Pydance

No reliable sources listed or found. --SPUI (T - C) 01:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep -- completely functional DDR simulator written in Python isn't quite 'non-notable'
    sendmoreinfo 21:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - a DDR clone written in Python may be an interesting curiosity, and a testatement to the creativity and doggedness of programmers, but I don't see this as passing
    WP:SOFTWARE. -- Whpq 22:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete no claim to notablity made in article - and I was unable to establish such via a quick search. No sourcing, only references the software project's own page. --Krich (talk) 06:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Stepmania and Flash Flash Revolution are the only two DDR clones anyone cares about these days. - Chardish 09:16, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. No offense, but I think FFR is much more notable for its forums than the game itself, which is more of a sort of community activity than an earnest DDR simulator. — flamingspinach | (talk) 12:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Not really. At any moment in the day there are about 1500 people on the site. vBulliten says there are "79,874 active members." Not too sure how vBulliten judges that, but I'd say about only 1,000 of those "active members" use the forums at all; maybe about 150 of them are long-time users. Just a rough guess. --68.192.68.55 21:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • No offense taken, and the FFR game gets played 100,000+ times per day. That's far, far more than the number of daily forum posts. - Chardish 08:50, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge into something, maybe
    Stepmania. I doubt it deserves its own article, but I think it's worth a mention somewhere. — flamingspinach | (talk) 12:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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  • Weak keep, Popcon by-install rank of #11186 out of 61725 for package pydance. Not really all that impressive but far from abysmal. Might be merge material... --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 18:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Do we really have to have 15,000 articles for the top 15,000 Debian packages? Ashibaka tock 19:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Popcon is not exactly that straightforward to interpret, while it is simple in principle; think of it as a glorified Google test. You can set a rather vague limits and interpret accordingly.
        WP:SOFTWARE suggests as much about its use, only that it can and should be used to gauge software's notability. My interpretation is that software above 10,000 line is notable and anything below 15,000-20,000 is probably chaff, and there's a buffer zone that fluctuates depending on what time of the day it is and how much coffee I've had. (See also below for time of the day.) You can probably find some other AfD where I'm pulling different figures out of my sleeves - it's all based on a gut feeling. My current idea, solidly on this gut feeling, is that if we include 15%-20% of what Debian thinks is their most remarkable software, we're sailing smooth and not including utter garbage. Also note that this thing tracks packages, not software; Debian compiles one source tarball into one or more packages. (There (at least used to be, if not still) packages celestia, celestia-common and celestia-gtk, and it's not uncommon to see -common and -data packages, not to even mention -doc packages!) Different versions of software can get into separate packages, should the maintainers keep them around to ensure compatibility. (There's mediawiki1.6 and mediawiki1.7.) There's pseudopackages that just depend on other packages. In the upper end, there's Software You Can't Remove Lest Stuff Would Break. And libraries and -dev packages, well, it's better not get into them, or we'd be still talking about them tomorrow. My point is, popcon by_inst <10,000 is much less of work that it sounds. And remember that MediaWiki is pretty darn remarkable and popular and it's still in the 7000s, last I checked. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 00:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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    • (The following is
      point or anything.) I see the nom's "No reliable sources" and raise "Press mentions to save an article no one will likely ever care about" (I'm sorry it's past 01:30 here and I've never had any clue about this smooth poker lingo ever, and I've never even read the article on this fascinating card game. I'm just a poor geek kid that was raised with Mario instead of Proper Manly Games.) I was pretty sure my chiss-sweesed brains had actually remembered that there was a mention of Pydance in some Linux magazine. Looks like they have a list of press mentions, but this one lists somewhat trivial mentions from print side (I have no idea if Linux Format covered it aside of just shoveling it to CD) though some online mentions are nontrivial. However, the article I'm remembering isn't here. (I'm thinking of Linux Journal, probably Marcel Gagné's column, but my memory is probably completely messed up in this regard, and it is, as mentioned above, past 01:45). Therefore, I see no other resolution but change my recommendation above from solid Weak Keep to extremely firm Weak Keep. (You know, because that's still based on notability rather than verifiability.) It's not the most remarkable DDR simulator or even influential, even when it's pretty impressive someone pulls this off with just Python - and like other people said, Stepmania kind of stole the show on this genre of software on OSS side. I'm just saying Carthago must be deleted. I mean, "lack of sources" argument is a bit funny argument if I waltz to the home page and find press rave. Now go forth and do the right thing anyway. Oops, I shouldn't use logic. =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 00:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC) ('round 02:40 here, unless this clock is lying)[reply
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  • Delete. Not a notable DDR-clone. Like Chardish said, the only two DDR clones avaliable on the computer anyone cares for are Stepmania and FFR. --68.192.68.55 21:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not voting for obvious reasons, but I will mention this existed long before Stepmania went GPLd, and even longer before it worked on anything not Windows (you can verify that with the release dates of the programs; not sure what "no reliable source" means in reference to free software...). Certainly not a popular clone, but does Wikipedia want to have articles on popular software, or historically notable software? That being said, Wikipedia has too many stupid free software articles, including this one. piman 04:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -

Mailer Diablo 13:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Text Text Revolution

No reliable sources listed or found. --SPUI (T - C) 01:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -

Mailer Diablo 13:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Dance With Intensity

No reliable sources listed or found. --SPUI (T - C) 01:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete, delete, delete! -

Mailer Diablo 13:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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VeggieTales: Dance, Dance, Dance

No reliable sources listed or found. --SPUI (T - C) 01:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Punkmorten 15:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vincent (Y&R)

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STRONG Delete : This is a very minor fictional character who appears rarely and is DEFINITELY not notable. Kogsquinge 01:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -

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Power of Santa

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Very small, non-notable part of Invader Zim American Patriot 1776 01:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete

Naconkantari 20:24, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Circle Square Ranch

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This article was speedily deleted as advertising and later restored in a less spam-y version. I'm listing this on behalf of the deleting admin since notability still has not been established. ~ trialsanderrors 01:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - seems to fail
    WP:CORP. Nothing on Google. MER-C 04:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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What is wrong with my page i will fix anything that you want. You have already deleted it once. I don't want you to delete my work again. I dont work for this company, i used to volunteer for them. I just want an entry for the ranch on wikipedia. -isoar4jc

  • Delete I have been to a Circle Square Ranch myself, when I was little. However, I agree it is not notable. Even if it was notable, its parent company, Crossroads Ministries doesn't have a WP article yet. Entertheinferno 10:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Isoar, you'll need to supply links to the relevant news articles and those news articles must do more than merely mention the topic of this article; they'll need to discuss the topic enough so as to establish notability. These sources will also need to be cited in the article. If you can do this then I'm sure many of us who are voting for deletion would reconsider. --The Way 22:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

fine delete it your minds are made up. It is covered extensively on 100 Huntley Street, but since that is owned by crossroads, then you wont accept that. and most other news articles arent online they'd just be on local cannels or newspapers. I know alot of campers and volunteer staff who are visiting this page and would be very unhappy if it got deleted. isoar4jc 22:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC) And stop call in me Isoar it's isoar4jc no capital and complete UID brainiacs.[reply]

  • comment isoar4JC: please don't get frustrated, and abbreviations of usernames are common, though they can be annoying no harm was meant I assure you. This debate is far from over, please don't give up and just leave. There appear to be some sources, if you can supply links OR MLA-format citations (for things that do not exist online) to third-party materials I'd be more than happy to include them. Despite the implication, online sources are not the only valid ones. I'd love to help you keep this, but I need your help in doing so. the SPCA materials appear to provide notability in my mind as well. Also: wikipedia sources are not considered viable, but if you can track down the sources on those other articles they may provide notability for the ranches as well. Wintermut3 02:04, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


  • isoar4jc My UID is already an abbreveation, an i'm just sick of peaple calling me isoar, sorry that you all caught the reaction to the same thing somewhere else. As to articles and news stuff, I am working on that, but its not as easy as you make it sound. I need to find stories aout specific camps which leads you on many wild goose chases. I'm currently on the trail of a huge news story about the rance in British Columbia being evacuated beacuse a forrest fire a couple years ago. (i was there when it happened, and the news crews were there to film the horses being evacuated) And have you ever heard of Shane Doan? He is the captain of the Phoenix Cyotes he was also the Captain of Team Canada in the last winter oylmpics. He is the son of Bernie and Bernise Doan who just happen to be the regional directors for the western camps, he was a camp kid. The stories exist but getting the specific articles is alot of work. Isoar4jc 03:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC) PS: Why are none of the other camps listed here under deletion review? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_summer_camps[reply]
Isoar4jc, please don't be mad at people for further abbreviating your name for the sake of brevity; editors often will refer to people by only the first few letters of their name and mean no disrespect. That aside, regarding your above comment: often times if its really hard to track down sources on a topic like this, that is a good indication that the topic itself isn't notable enough to meet Wikipedia guidelines. Stories about a camp having to be evacuated because of a forest fire, for example, tell us nothing about the importance of the camp itself. If there aren't sources that can explicitly tell us why this particular camp is notable (ie., why it is especially important, as 'average' camps, whether religious or secular, are typically not notable enough to warrant articles) then we will probably remove the article on the camp because we have to have third party sources. Also, having the son of someone important being involved in something in no way makes that thing particularly notable. Finally, in regards to other articles on camps, any of them which don't establish notability should be nominated for AfDs. --The Way 07:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comprimise with correct effort any organization could establish notability, thr only thing is that personaly don't have the resourses or contacts to to so on my own. merging the articles combines the notability of both, i think i could live with that. Isoar4jc 18:07, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was No consensus. Kungfu Adam (talk) 15:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ludwig Straniak

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I think this fails

WP:BIO. There are references included, but the only claim to notability seems to be an association with the Nazis. Although important details that would establish notability are left out. For example, how often did the Nazis employ him? When did they employ him? I think without those details, we cannot establish a context for determining his notability. Delete unless cleaned up to address the above. I did prod this, but the prod was contested.TheRingess 23:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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We know that the article is way below par, but you are ignoring the man himself and his wok on pendulum mumbo-jumbo like: STRANIAK, LUDWIG Die achte Gross-Kraft der Natur und ihre physikalischen Gesetze,
  • Delete - I concur with Patstuart, but the ghit count is 55.
    Verifiability concerns. MER-C 03:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete per above. - ŞρІϊţ ۞ ĨήƒϊήίтҰ (тąιк|соήтяївѕ) 06:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. ghits that low does not augur well, but I think the article's got legs. It's unreasonable to expect foursquare articles right out of the gate, particularly when the subject is as obscure as this one. It may take a while, but I see room to grow. Ford MF 09:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My reasoning is that there seems to be a lot of room for research and expansion. It seems to me that the article asserts its subject's notability, and beyond that this is a cleanup/expand job and doesn't warrant deletion.--Dmz5 18:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My reasoning is that this guy actually was reading cards, runes and whatever mumbo-jumbo for the notables of the Third Reich, who at the same time based some of their decisions on whatever he augured. Serves well to explain some of the inexplicable decision that can of loons took Alf photoman 22:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Well-referenced, asserts notability. --- RockMFR 19:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Google test is completely inaccurate for persons who lived before the internet age.--Ioannes Pragensis 22:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a reason to keep an article Bwithh 03:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, but some editors here use the Google test even if clearly inappropriate (Patstuart, MER-C, Split_Infinity).--Ioannes Pragensis 09:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But I changed my mind after reading your well-researched vote. Delete.--Ioannes Pragensis 09:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete due to question marks over sources Just because there are books listed as references, does not make them reliable - or appropriate - sources. There are 5 books mentioned in the references section of the article. 3 of these have indexes which are searchable online. The indexes of two books by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke are available on Google Books[[8][9]. "Ludwig Straniak" or "Straniak" does not appear in their indexes or from the internal google search of their text. (There is only 1 passing, very brief hit for "Ludwig Straniak" in Google Books[10] and none for a mixed search term for Straniak and Nazi[11]. Also nothing on Google Scholar[12]) . As for the third book (by Peter Levenda), the index to is available on Amazon.com through the "Look Inside" function [13]. This does have a mention of Straniak in its index (p230-232). However, Peter Levenda appears to be a professional occult conspiracy theorist[14]. Yes, the latest version of his book has a foreword by Norman Mailer, but Mailer is a something of a fan of Levenda's conspiracy theories. For instance, see Mailer's review (front page of Levenda's site) about Levenda's first volume in his "Sinister Forces" trilogy about the "Satanic undercurrent" of American history (which Mailer still admits has little in the way of "hard evidence"). While there are two other books (one by a self-proclaimed mystic) on the list unavailable through google/amazon, what I've seen from the other three as well as other searches does not make me confident about this article. Bwithh 04:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Followup I found a text copy of the fourth book (the one by Baker) on this admittedly apparently unreliable website[15]. However, the pdf downloads as a full 168 pages of text with full bibliographical notes at the end and seems to be coherent and in good order. The pdf text search function works fine. There are zero hits for "Straniak". So that's 3 out of five books references coming up blank and a fourth one by a professional conspiracy theorist and the last (which I have not been able to check) by a "mysticist"/"magician"
WP:RS. Oh, and there's the amateur "ghost research" website linked in the article as well[17] (written by a "ghost hunter"[18]) which is totally inadmissible as a reference. Bwithh 04:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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You are basing your opinion to much on a defective article and too little on the bloke himself. He was on of the leading figures in trying to bring about a pseudo-scientific acceptance of the pendulum mumbo-jumbo, see : STRANIAK, LUDWIG Die achte Gross-Kraft der Natur und ihre physikalischen Gesetze (Diessen vor München, J. C. Hubers Verlag. 1936) which is quoted by almost every pendulum augur Alf photoman 15:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
References

I want to clear this up. The references that are now in the article and listed below mention Straniak. I will scan the pages of all of these if it help you. Also, I will make youtude entries for the documentary references ot him if you like? Again I state that I suggest people contribute to articles with important information rather than nominate them for deletion. Class it as a stub maybe? I have added references for further reseach on the person and he is known for far much more than the Nazi's as the references show. I will dig out decent biographical information and hope others do also. Wiki is about supplying information for further research! FK0071a 16:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

Books

Documentaries

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The result was no consensus. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:56Z

Kohn, Kohn & Colapinto

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Nothing here asserts notability above any other law firm; reads like an advert. Akihabara 21:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Very notable "whistleblower" D.C. law firm. Even repped Linda Tripp. --Oakshade 05:59, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep based on Tripp case and IRS issue. JamesMLane t c 14:37, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy deleted by User:Fang Aili, although for A1 and A7, not A3. -Amarkov blahedits 05:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zahran Mall

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The article is not notable Meno25 02:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:55Z

Aaron Marrs

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Article does not make clear the "notability" of this person. This appears to be a tribute launched after the person's death, and I'm not sure that Wikipedia is the place for that. Moreover, other website tributes have already been established: here and here. Radar1 02:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:55Z

Meinhard E. Mayer

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Found tagged db-bio, but he's more than that - he's done some solid if very specialized work in theoretical physics, and has authored a textbook that I, at least, would consider notable. Opabinia regalis 02:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Wikipedia is not a directory for every University professor who published something minorly significant. My professor from college published four popular books in historical subjects, but then again so did nearly every other professor in the department! Wikipedia loses its legitimacy if we let this go on. The article creation also smells a little of vanity, especially since the user who created it is named User:Memayer. LeszekB 02:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The book which he co-wrote seems well regarded and has had classes designed around it. I think more citations could be added to increase verifiability. --jaydj 04:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Notable as a researcher and as co-author of a significant and notable textbook. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 04:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • k- fairly notable as textbook author and researcher; however, the article itself needs work. - ŞρІϊţ ۞ ĨήƒϊήίтҰ (тąιк|соήтяївѕ) 06:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for lack of references proving notability, fails

WP:PROF. The references provided are works that he has written, not "multiple third-party reliable sources" about the man himself or his works, thus there is no evidence showing that anything he has done is more significant than any other post-doctoral researcher. Zunaid©Please rate me at Editor Review! 07:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Keep per

WP:SNOW and nominator's change to keep. ---J.S (T/C) 00:42, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Axino

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We can't have an article which is two lines long in Wikipedia. I nominate this article to be merged and redirected with other articles or be expanded or else, we will have to delete it. There is no references, citations nor external links. Also, we can transwiki this article to Wiktionary Meno25 02:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. This is a useful stub. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 04:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Transwiki to Wiktionary. --Dennisthe2 04:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect. While theoretically (no pun intended) a useful stub, this is an unobserved particle that is related to another unobserved particle through an unobserved relationship, despite all of that being predicted by supersymmetry theory. I'm uncertain how much we can expand this stub; I do not know that many (any?) of the significant properties of an axino are defined by the extant mathematics ... and the current content of this article is duplicated within the longer superpartner. However, if I'm wrong, and there's more to say, please read my comment as keep, instead. Serpent's Choice 05:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep. Did my own homework, changed my mind. There have been entire papers discussing the potential properties of the axino based on differing supersymmetry model postulates. Serpent's Choice 11:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Note that, while still very much a stub, I've made this somewhat better than a 2-line substub, and added some refs. Serpent's Choice 13:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Why can't we have an article that is two lines long? Size isn't a factor for an article or subjects inclusion and there are no policies that say they have to be so long, that's why they get labelled stubs. If we couldn't have anything that short then most articles would never appear and grow. Ben W Bell talk 08:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: A short article can be very useful. If I am looking for information on the subject in question, it is better that it is all available in a single article. Dr bab, 14:04, 20 December 2006 (CET).
  • Keep Small light article for small light particle. Has references. Edison 15:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep sourced, encyclopaedic. Stub is not a criterion for deletion. WilyD 18:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I am the nominator. I must say that the article is very good now as can be seen here. Therefore I change my vote to Keep. The article now is a good stub.--Meno25 00:10, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to TIBCO Software. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:51Z

Smartsockets

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Non-notable

software. Somewhat spammish, but doesn't fit my criteria for being blatant spam. Contested prod. MER-C 02:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:50Z

Axel Scherer

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Looks like a CV, has no content, no references, no citations, nothing! We can't have an article about some one only because he works in a university. I can't see a reason for notability here Meno25 02:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:48Z

Adventure Gamers

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Non-notable fansite -- does not meet

WP:WEB (which is not a proposal but an official guideline). Andre (talk) 03:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The site's reviews have been quoted on many adventure game box covers
Very few websites can make this claim. Throw on an {{unreferenced}} tag and give the editors some time to get some shots of the game boxes. --- RockMFR 06:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure Criteria #3 is truly satisfied in this sense, "distributed via a medium" is specifically described as being via an online magazine or newspaper. I don't think that reviews on game boxes cut the mustard. Reading the footnote, it notes that sites satisfying Criteria 3 will invariably satisfy Criteria 1, however this does not seem to be the case. Zunaid©Please rate me at Editor Review! 12:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is a problem with
WP:WEB. If you take it at face value, we could reasonably delete an article about a web subject which has content published in Time or Newsweek or something like that. WP:WEB is shitty in regard to offline publications. --- RockMFR 18:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Print and other offline media are hardly likely to republish web content. The Time and Newsweek examples are a misnomer; more likely they would publish an article about the website, thus satisfying Criterion 1. Even so, republishing in an offline magazine would meet the spirit (if not the letter) of WP:WEB so would be accepted by any reasonable editor. Mentions on game boxes does not meet the spirit of #3. Zunaid©Please rate me at Editor Review! 07:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    1. Article on adventuregamers in PC Master, a Greek gaming magazine. (August 2002)
    2. Featured in the TV program GameQuest on the Dutch channel Veronica. (December 2000)
    3. Featured in "Webtips: De 1019 Beste Websites Verzameld" (2000, Issue #1) among large commercial sites such as GameCenter and PC Gameworld.
    4. Screenshot of Adventure Gamer featured in "English Quest 2", an Australian secondary school textbook. The site is used as an example to encourage students to think about the construction of effective web pages. (September 2000, John Wiley & Sons Australia, Ltd., tentative print run 20000 copies)
    5. Listed in the bibliography of "Ecrire Pour Le Jeu: Techniques Scenaristiques Du Jeu Informatique Et Vidéo" by Emmanuel Gardiola, (June 2000, Editions DIXIT)
  • Comment: More notability: -- Technitai 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Cited in academic article, "Virtual Recentering: Computer Games and Possible Worlds Theory" by Jan Van Looy http://www.imageandnarrative.be/tulseluper/vanlooy.htm
  2. Article reprinted on the website of Ernest Adams, a recognized game design consultant, teacher and
    author http://www.designersnotebook.com/Scrapbook/AdventureGamers/adventuregamers.htm
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:47Z

Christmas Down Under

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Minor Australian children's book. Doesn't appear on Google, and it's apparently only in two Australian libraries. Nothing from Amazon either. I found no information using our Booksource either (except the two libraries it was in). Doesn't meet

verifiability. Wafulz 03:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:47Z

New Destiny Church

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Contested prod, prod read "Unverifiable, fails

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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:46Z

Curious George 2

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This is a complete hoax. It is, according to the article, being released in 2009, and of course all the values in the infobox are set as TBA. Hoax. - ŞρІϊţ ۞ ĨήƒϊήίтҰ (тąιк|соήтяївѕ) 06:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:46Z

Monkey Alan

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This article is about a non existent character in a TV show. Thus the subject cannot be notable because the subject does not exist, except in occasional scripted references to it. Prodded and author removed prod. Fiddle Faddle 07:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. MER-C 11:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as currently unverifiable, non-notable and painfully trivial. "This is yet to be confirmed and, from the actual shows alone, is impossible to confirm." - which renders one half of this stub as pure speculation. QuagmireDog 14:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Josh Parris#: 23:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:46Z

Color or Country

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Article was nominated once, and the discussion focused almost entirely on one group of editors trying to convince another incredulous group of editors that the game actually exists. Nominated again, attracted almost no attention. I would like to renominate the article on the grounds that it is

unverifiable. There are no third party sources that discuss this in any non-trivial way. Only a few hundred google hits, most irrelevant, many mirroring wikipedia. I do not doubt this game exists but if the only sources we can find are mentions in posts to a math camp message board, it does not warrant an article. Dmz5 07:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Why? Are you advocating it be merged into the "similar games" part at the bottom? That section seems to be getting long enough to split into a list article, but I am still concerned about notability. --Dmz5 19:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Its unverifiable and, even if it could be verified it doesn't seem notable. Also, as a side note and not as a reason for deletion; if this game is, in fact, real, it has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of. --The Way 22:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral -- ah heck, Delete. AfD has come a long way in a year. On this article's first nomination for deletion, there were large numbers of people around who thought "delete because it's stupid" was a valid reason, and I voted keep largely to counter that. (I also cared because I had edited the article.) AfD now is much more focused on well-defined standards of verifiability, which I must admit that Color or Country doesn't meet. I'll be sad to see it go, but it makes sense. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 23:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Echo Rspeer, basically - while I oppose a "delete because I don't know what it is," which was a large part of the previous AfD, I agree with and support a "delete because it can't be verified to Wikipedia standards." Sho Uemura 05:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete all. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:42Z

Saga Communications Tower Alleman

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masts listed which are 460m tall or more). None of the towers that I am nominating are notable in any way whatsoever, as far as I can tell. Most of these have been stubs for over a year, none have any substantial additional information other than their name, location and height. Ohconfucius 07:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Comment please refer to links above piped in "successful batch deletions of unremarkable masts" for history of consensus deletions. Barring any last minute rush, KDEN TV Tower is headed for a near unanimous 'delete'; There are 2 merges and you're the only vote for 'Keep' in Wand TV Tower and KSAX. There are apparently no issues with the principle of deleting these stubs. The only misgivings are the size of AfD nominations. Ohconfucius 10:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and one more thing... please refer to the first mass mast-deletion debate, and note that nobody wanted to do the work to create redirects to another article. As action speaks louder than words, surely that speaks volumes? Ohconfucius 11:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per above unless the articles have some source of notability.--Meno25 09:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and salt every single
    WP:NOT#IINFO. --tgheretford (talk) 09:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Comment no non-US masts are being proposed for deletion here. Ohconfucius 10:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I am aware of that, but there are a good number of
non-notable masts outside of the US which need to be reviewed as with the US masts up for AfD as I stated above. --tgheretford (talk) 19:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Delete all per nom. MER-C 11:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all These articles do great harm by filling Wikipedia with stale copies of non-notable info from a database. The huge number of articles were createdd in April 2005, and add nothing to the database from which they were copied. As that database changes over time, there is no automatic process to move changes into this one. TV stations buy taller masts, or the old one blows down and gets replaced, and we take up server space with stale data. Instead, just include a link to the external database in the master article on masts. Edison 15:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per nom.
    top 23:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete all non-notable —EdGl 00:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-20 09:22Z

R Unot

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There is no way Adolf Hitler could have had a son in 1978; that is pure poppycock. Definite hoax. Only 72 ghits for "R Unot". He sounds really really dreamy...I'd love to get laid by this Jamie fellow.

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The result was speedy delete, db-web. Life would be so much easier if MER-C had been given the mop... Deizio talk 13:32, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kelvote

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non notable website.[29][30]. --In the london 08:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:41Z

Serenity (spirituality)

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Dictionary definition not likely to expand beyond a stub. Wiktionary already has an entry for serenity, so it's not a candidate for transwiki. –  Anþony  talk  08:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm sorry, but if we delete it now, it will be very hard to re-create it, because it will be speedy deleted as re-creation of deleted material. It is extremely hard to revert the AfD decisions here. Regarding the prayer's article, it should link just here, because the prayer is only one instance of the concept's presence in the history of spirituality.--Ioannes Pragensis 08:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, authors are going to link that word when they want that term, and disambiguating will be a nightmare without it. Josh Parris#: 23:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - There is a lot to be written about serenity: the extent to which it is emphasized or ignored in various religions/spiritualities, recommended paths to serenity by various spiritualities/religions, debate about the extent to which serenity is an attainable goal, etc. Agree w/ Ioannes: "The sad fact that something is a short stub does not mean that it should be deleted." Dave Runger(t)⁄(c) 12:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Conscious 15:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MacHeist

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Nominated for deletion by 72.240.153.72. No reason specified. This is a procedural nomination - my opinion is Neutral. Tevildo 08:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note I have nominated for afd, a related article My Dream App. Bwithh 23:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Many people seem to not know what it is, and an article like this explaining it is essential. --Biiaru 12:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Keep I refer you the extensive news coverage including:

Was top of the "most popular" lists on del.icio.us and digg, returns 1,140,000 google articals, and not only that it was included in the weekly News Summaries for sendittopress.com: http://www.send2press.com/newswire/2006-12-1216-001.shtml

All in all this site in such a short period of time became on of the most significant events in the Apple Mac indie software movement. --86.15.162.159 20:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    • Um... what? Wired, maybe. But you included Slashdot as "news coverage"? Under what definition is mention on Slashdot "news coverage"? The others are no better. -Amarkov blahedits 23:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No claim to encyclopedic notability. A contest like this needs publicity otherwise it can't operate. So it gets computer press coverage. But wikipedia is not a magazine/news archive Bwithh 23:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually I disagree, I have removed the "mac-fanboy" section that was un-encyclopedic, and have spoken to the guy who wrote it. However, it did raise some interesting points, the major being that as a new style of marketing an otherwise niche software market it succeeded. Moreover, this was an unprecedented event within the macintosh community which has, (by initial estimates), boosted the mac shareware economy considerably and is already considered a landmark event in the history of the macintosh community's close relationship between software makers and users. Personally I question the necessity to have articles on Wikipedia about individual episodes of south park, and yet they remain unchallenged. This event actually meant something to the mac community, and is worthy of inclusion in Wikipeida. 86.15.162.159 01:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's nice that it meant something to the Mac community. Meaning something does not override
      WP:V. -Amarkov blahedits 01:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
      ]
  • Keep As a participant in this site, as well as being an admin at Wikipedia, I don't like the position I'm in. However, since this was a big event for the
    Apple rumors community I would say that this would be a keep because of the scale of the event. (However, I would not say the same for My Dream App). --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Keep This event has turned out to be important to the Mac community. And I don't know if this counts as a reliable resource, but here's one more article:

Sorry if I did this wrong, first time using Wikipedia as a voice instead of a viewer. --adamdash

blahedits 17:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No print references? —
Wackymacs 21:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Well I believe macworld are including it in their next issue, but you know the delay between online and print. always amazes me how tech magazines stay in print, they can never compete with the online counterparts.
Macworld don't always put everything in their magazine (since there are too many news stories), so we can't count on that happening. I haven't seen much mention of MacHeist outside of Mac/Tech sites. I still don't think this even meets the
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The result was Delete

Naconkantari 20:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Project Monarch

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Procedural nomination. Bump from speedy. Neutral. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-20 09:24Z

Comment - Fine. But look. At the moment this article contains no reliable sources and notability is not asserted, much less backed up by more reliable sources. Under those circumstances, it should go.
Deletion! 15:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy delete. Deizio talk 13:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Multiven

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Non-notable business. Fails

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The result was keep. John254 03:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Stalinist left

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Neologism. An arbitrary collection of diverse political tendencies, with no encyclopediatic value of its own. Soman 09:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[31]

--Inbloom2 10:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Many terms give google hits, but without deserving separate articles. I'll go through the article on New York, and present my views on it later today. --Soman 10:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:39Z

Brewerfan.net

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Non-notable fancruft, fails

WP:V. Alexa rank of 1,985,328, media mentions are either trivial or unverifiable. Article should be deleted. RWR8189 09:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Speedily redirected to the existing article with correct naming. Non-admin closure per

WP:DPR. Serpent's Choice 13:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Pippard, Brian

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Someone is creating a string of stubs on Clare Hall, Camebridge scientists. I've pulled this from speedy because I suspect being a Fellow of the Royal Society is at least marginally notable and if he supervised a Nobel prize winner, he's probably done something notable himself. This deserves a closer look. Mgm|(talk) 10:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:39Z

Anti-Mac

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Notable author, but the paper seems to be NN, as it hasn't really had an impact on UI design. Twinxor t 10:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was nomination withdrawn. MER-C 11:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chino Hills High School

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Fails

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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:38Z

Karni Singh Rathore

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It is not a famous person, that I know of. AxG (talk) 11:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:36Z

Guffmanesque

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Transwikied dicdef. Condemned to perpetual stub-hood? contested prod; prod removed with statement about ghits. Hornplease 11:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:36Z

N-Philes

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Sppedy deletion contested. No assertion of notability is made, fails

WP:WEB. The content has not been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. The website or content has not won a notable independent award from either a publication or organization. The content is not distributed via a medium which is both well known and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster. Article should be deleted RWR8189 11:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:35Z

Virginia Gilbert

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AfD nominated by 86.140.211.86 with reason - "Creating deletion discussion page for Virginia Gilbert because of no interest to the public." This is a procedural nomination - my opinion is Neutral. Tevildo 12:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, does not appear to be notable under
    WP:BIO. Her IMDb credits are not extensive — producer of a single TV documentary in 2005. She won the "2006 Galway Film Centre Short Script Award" but that isn't a particularly notable award, and on closer inspection she was only one of three winners. I did find this but it appears to be an online curriculum vitae of some sort. Demiurge 12:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete per above. MER-C 13:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete note all Her IMDb credits were written or directed by her dad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.211.86 (talk • contribs)
  • Delete, maybe mention it/merge parts of it in the article of Brian Gilbert. --V. Szabolcs 22:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:35Z

Kallarakal

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Contested prod. Prod reason was "

Fram 13:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:34Z

Violator (band)

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Doesn't seem to meet

WP:MUSIC. Completely unsourced. Contested prod. MER-C 13:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Weak keep and to expand the article. Yao Ziyuan 13:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:33Z

Evangelical Protestant political parties

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It is an invented political classification and thus in violation of

talk 13:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:33Z

Serie B 2006-07 Calendar

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Serie B 2006-07 covers what is needed. There is no equivalent article for the more senior Serie A ChrisTheDude 13:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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See [35]. Oldelpaso 18:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Of course this can be corroborated. For instance, (again referring to England, don't know the score elsewhere), a Watford fanzine had to take down fixtures after receiving this Legal Letter It's an issue all web sites and printed matter have to be aware of. - fchd 18:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment So you are saying that if I write that Bologna will play Juventus on December 19 I can can sued? That's the most rediculous thing I've heard so far. Team and League schedules of any sport are reproduced everywhere and anywhere. Teams want their fans to know when they will be playing so as to improve attendance and television viewing. I can't believe we are actually arguing this point. Juveboy 23:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this is the pertinent section from the article linked above. I can't speak for Italy, but in England the situation re: copyright seems pretty clear.....
  • Retain Every other major football/soccer league (i.e. England) has a page or many pages dedicated to the season calendar. If this page is a copyright violation also FA Premier League results August 2006 is. Moreover the statement "Vague unsourced cut and paste from non-English source is not encyclopedic" is unconsistent: only articles with English sources are encyclopedic? CapPixel 08:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment You can't copyright results, they are a matter of historical record. Fixture lists of matches yet to be played are a different matter, however.... ChrisTheDude 15:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • CommentNow you're picking at straws. Eventually the whole page will be an historical record. In fact, I would argue that the league's decision to schedule certain games on certain dates is a historical fact in itself. Juveboy 17:34, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Wikipedia is not
    RSSSF --Angelo 15:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retain I agree with CapPixel. I would invite some constructive critism, as in including an opening paragraph at the top the page or reducing the amount of data (kilobytes) on the page by making in plainer. Juveboy 17:34, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep that part which relates to games already played. Remove the future fixtures if copyright situation applies to Italian fixtures. - fchd 18:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge into the serie B article. This is very useful. Just H 17:36, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retain This problem of copyright on fixtures list is a UK law problem Niall123 10:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 10:55, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retain Very useful page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.130.241 (talk • contribs)
  • Delete per
    WP:NOT and possible copyright violation. (Nice to see good ole BSaD popping up here!) HornetMike 15:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:32Z

Global Orgasm

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Sounds like a hoax. Even if it isn't, I don't think it's notable either. – Gurch 14:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep It looks real to me. And saying the anti-war movement isn't notable these days is like saying any mention of opposition to the war in Iraq is superfluous.Maybe this particular kind of protest doesn't appeal to you, but who cares? It's still relevant given the current political climate, both in the US and around the globe.Wandering Star 22:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep That website looks like too much work to be a hoax, and I found a couple of press reports via Google: [36][37][38] (all the same agency story) plus [39][40]. It looks like a gimmick all right, but the external sources do exist. Demiurge 14:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm, I guess. Though at the moment the article doesn't contain any of those sources (which actually makes it borderline speedyable, but I brought it here for that reason). I'm still not convinced of importance/significance, but if it is going to stay, it needs improvement (i.e. those sources) – Gurch 14:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. The event seems genuine - is USA Today a sufficiently reputable source for verification? It probably needs to be expanded, and quickly, though. Tevildo 14:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I added a link to a San Francisco Chronicle story (though my ES misidentified it as an AP story). The Chronicle is the leading newspaper in the area where the originators of this idea live, so that's enough confirmation for me. My Yahoo! search for "Global Orgasm" -wikipedia got more than 200,000 hits, most of which seem to be about this. JamesMLane t c 14:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very weak keep, looks real but it either gets expanded or we will be back here in a month Alf photoman 16:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Sorry, real or not, I don't buy the notability of a couple of thousand people blowing their collective loads simultaneously.
    Danny Lilithborne 04:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep. Very fishy that this is being nominated right before the event. CLEARLY ANOTHER ATTEMPT AT SEMEN CENSORSHIP BY THE CABAL!!!! But seriously, keep per media coverage. --- RockMFR 04:42, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep (media coverage). — Pladask 12:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for now The prospective event was picked up by a fair handful of newspapers around the world. Mereda 16:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. It is certainly verifiable. I have seen a press report in an Australian newspaper, but I forget where. The question is whether it is notable. How many people took part and so on? --Bduke 06:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep stupid, but verifiable. `'mikkanarxi 23:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for now I doubt this notable at all in a year, but it is weakly notable now. Neitherday 18:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:30Z

Bill C-261

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Article about a not-notable piece of failed legislation. At best should be merged into Canadian_electoral_system or another article dealing with voting in Canada and the voting age. Geoffrey Spear 14:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete for two reasons. Firstly, private members' bills rarely make it past committee, as they typically have limited support and are often quixotic in nature. Secondly, the bill names are recycled for each session of Parliament (much like the "HR" bill names used in the US Congress). In a few years, a more-notable C-261 may be introduced. Caknuck 20:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Caknuck. Josh Parris#: 23:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep

Naconkantari 20:30, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

Science Fiction South Africa

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I was considering

Prodding this one, but I'm not certain about it. Although "The oldest science fiction society in South Africa" is a claim of notability, it's very short, doesn't have any sources, and links only to its own website. If someone can find more material, then I don't have any problem with it, but I don't think it should be kept as it is now. – Gurch 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

As I understand it, SFSA pretty much is the SF scene in South Africa; the publishing industry there is pretty colonial, and the local publishers aren't into SF as a genre.--Orange Mike 16:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep per Markeer. -Toptomcat 18:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - per markeer, and the fact that it seems to be the only SF related org in SA.Bakaman 19:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. Grutness...wha? 06:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. There does not seems to be any notable coverage of this organisation at all in third-party reliable sources. Fails
    WP:ORG by a megaparsec. That it may be the only organisation of its kind in the country is notable IF AND ONLY IF this fact is true, which in Wikipedia requires that it be reported in a verifiable source somewhere, which it isn't. Zunaid©Please rate me at Editor Review! 12:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep per Markeer. Ford MF 17:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:30Z

Alfonso Chartier

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Reason Arrashju 21:29, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Although the article makes some vague claims of notability ("a professional gamer") I can't find a lot of reliable sources through either Google or Google News, so this person appears to fail
    WP:BIO. Jayden54 22:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:29Z

Brian Gelber

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Being mentioned in a book, is this enough to make this bio's notable? Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F. --Hu12 12:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete does not seem notable. Delete unless expanded making a case for notability during AfD. Pleclech 22:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep not mentioned, but profiled.--Ioannes Pragensis 23:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete boring. Josh Parris#: 23:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The above comment it definately
WP:ILIKEIT#I_don.27t_like_it
  • Keep , after a minor rewrite with reliable sources. The Lead section shows notability and the References section should be read by the editors. Just needs even further expansion ASAP. Reason for deletion is no longer valid. There appear to be many separate industry media reference links, that shows there is reasonable industry interest.
    Futures (magazine)
    .
  • Meets this criterion from
    WP:BIO
    - "The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person."

Trade2tradewell 22:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:27Z

Joe Ritchie

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Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F. --Hu12 12:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Keep, clearly notable.--Ioannes Pragensis 23:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Unencyclopedaic, much of the information is irrelevant, does not seem notable. Delete unless cleaned up and expanded making a case for notability during AfD. Pleclech 23:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Does not meet criteria for sufficient notability listed in the Wikipedia:Notability (people)--Hu12 00:15, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per world record attempt. Just H 00:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep In the world of Money management, ever since there was such a job title created only a few have become notable. If there is a "Money Management Hall of Fame" this person would be in it. Read the lead paragraph its all in there and referenced. There is proven
    reliable sources [41]. Here is the references for when he tried to buy Eastern Airlines[42]
Tried to singlehandlely overthow the Taliban, feature story at the International Herald Tribune & CNN
All referenced. Read the Lead paragraph!!
Trade2tradewell 00:19, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but needs to have the puffery removed. JamesMLane t c 16:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:26Z

Larry Hite

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Being mentioned in a book, is this enough to make this bio's notable? Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F.--Hu12 13:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Keep and speedy close , after a minor rewrite with reliable sources. The Lead section shows notability and the References section should be read by the editors. Just needs even further expansion ASAP. Reason for deletion is no longer valid. There appear to be many separate industry media reference links, that shows there is reasonable industry interest.
  • Meets this criterion from
    WP:BIO
    - "The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person."
  • I am constantly baffled by the degree to which we tolerate deletion abuse. This is factual, and verifiable. Well-referenced, encyclopaedic. I'm having trouble seriously believing it's possible to nominate this article in good faith. I'm not sure what the agenda is here but the subject is clearly notable. This person has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of this person. I found plenty of sources in a
    Lexis-Nexis
    search. This article can be cleaned up and set on track.
  • All of the links provided are from independent reliable third-party, reputable, non-trivial published sources.
  • It should be realized that Money management is a highly specialized, yet suitable topic.
  • Editors please look at the multiple independent reliable sources under References.
  • I found multiple non-trivial reliable external sources about " Larry Hite", this then establishes notability. It meets notability criteria and sources are reliable.
  • Clearly notable, and widely reported. Perhaps a better article needs to be written, but this is not the form for doing that. He has been featured in mainstream newsprint publications, including
    Crains Cleveland
    .
  • Comment It should be noted that due to a large overhaul of the page, all votes before the overhaul of the Wikipedia article should be reconsidered.
  • The result should be Speedily closed, as the article has been heavily revised.
  • The article was not properly sourced when it was nominated, and has now been much improved.
  • Other references:
  • Larry’s concept of a guaranteed futures fund ( an industry first) was featured in a piece by the Financial Times (Financial Times, April 4 1987) [44]
  • Securities Week talk about the fact that the fund was so popular that it was oversubscribed: [45]
  • Mint Management, was in 1987, the world's second largest commodity fund with $ 225 million under management. Journal of Commerce 1987: [46]
  • Mr Larry Hite, founder of Mint Investment Management Co (one of the world's largest managers of commodity funds and one of the most consistently successful, trading everything from dollars to copper to grains) Financial Times [47]
  • Quote from
    Crains Cleveland. Larry Hite, who is considered by his peers as one of America's shrewdest commodity traders [48]

Trade2tradewell 15:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Many of us, not being involved in finance, seem to have a tendency to try to delete those who are. DGG 02:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. The AfD's in this string have common characteristics: The subject is notable within the specialized field of money management; the article has stylistic problems and includes puffery but has enough substance to establish notability. AfD should not be used as Cleanup. JamesMLane t c 16:37, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:20Z

Linda Bradford Raschke

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Being mentioned in a book, is this enough to make this bio's notable? Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F.--Hu12 12:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete does not seem notable. Delete unless expanded making a case for notability during AfD. Pleclech 22:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep, seems at least marginally notable.--Ioannes Pragensis 23:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Does not meet criteria for sufficient notability listed in the Wikipedia:Notability (people)--Hu12 00:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep , after a minor rewrite with reliable sources. The Lead section shows notability and the References section should be read by the editors. Just needs even further expansion. Reason for deletion is no longer valid. There appear to be many separate industry media reference links, that shows there is reasonable industry interest. Meets this criterion from
    WP:BIO
    - "The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person."
Featured and profiled in 2 major industry publications (books).
41,000 google hits [50] and there is no 2 with this same name.
More references here:[51] and here [52]
This article is also part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics.
Trade2tradewell 01:00, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The AfD's in this string have common characteristics: The subject is notable within a specialized business-related field; the article has stylistic problems and includes puffery but has enough substance to establish notability. AfD should not be used as Cleanup. JamesMLane t c 16:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:16Z

Louis Lukac

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Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F.--Hu12 12:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete per nom. Edison 15:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete does not appear notable. Delete unless expanded during AfD Pleclech 22:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Does not meet criteria for sufficient notability listed in the Wikipedia:Notability (people) guideline.--Hu12 19:42, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete without prejudice to re-creation with more content. An article could be valuable to someone who's encountered his book and wants to know more about him but this article wouldn't help that hypothetical reader. JamesMLane t c 16:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:10Z

Mark Ritchie (trader)

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Being mentioned in a book, is this enough to make this bio's notable? Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F.--Hu12 12:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Keep, notable enough.--Ioannes Pragensis 23:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Does not meet criteria for sufficient notability listed in the Wikipedia:Notability (people)--Hu12 00:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep , after a minor rewrite with reliable sources. The Lead section shows notability and the References section should be read by the editors. Just needs even further expansion. Reason for deletion is no longer valid. There appear to be many separate industry media reference links, that shows there is reasonable industry interest. Meets this criterion from
    WP:BIO
    - "The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person."
  • I am constantly baffled by the degree to which we tolerate deletion abuse. This is factual, and verifiable. Well-referenced, encyclopaedic. I'm having trouble seriously believing it's possible to nominate this article in good faith. I'm not sure what the agenda is here but the subject is clearly notable. This person has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of this person. I found plenty of sources in a
    Lexis-Nexis
    search. This article can be cleaned up and set on track.
  • All of the links provided are from independent reliable third-party, reputable, non-trivial published sources.
  • Editors please look at the multiple independent reliable sources under References.
  • I found multiple non-trivial reliable external sources about "Mark A. Ritchie", the Money Manager and acomplished author of 2 books, this then establishes notability. It meets notability criteria and sources are reliable.
Trade2tradewell 00:57, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep once again, I thank Trade2tradewell for his meticulous documentation. DGG 02:10, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. The AfD's in this string have common characteristics: The subject is notable within a specialized business-related field; the article has stylistic problems and includes puffery but has enough substance to establish notability. AfD should not be used as Cleanup. JamesMLane t c 16:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:01Z

Mark Weinstein

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Being mentioned in a book, is this enough to make this bio's notable? Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F.--Hu12 13:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete per nom. Edison 15:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete does not seem notable. Delete unless expanded making a case for notability during AfD. Pleclech 22:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Does not meet criteria for sufficient notability listed in the Wikipedia:Notability (people)--Hu12 00:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC
  • Delete This one on the other hand seems not to have notability documented, at least so far. i will change my vote if it is. DGG 02:12, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. This person is probably not just another trader, because there must have been some reason he was included in the book, but this cursory article doesn't show his notability. JamesMLane t c 16:53, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:00Z

Monroe Trout

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Being mentioned in a book, is this enough to make this bio's notable? Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F. --Hu12 12:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

Trade2tradewell 22:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is beginning to look like deletion by profession. Not all stock traders are equal.DGG 02:14, 25 December 2006 (UTC).
  • Keep. I agree with DGG. JamesMLane t c 16:57, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 13:00Z

Otimen Recording Hell (A.K.A. Bran's Freestyle)

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Unreleased / self-released compilation from Brandon DiCamillo. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Call Me Crazy California Style. Deizio talk 16:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - non-notable album by a (possibly) non-notable artist. No claims in the article to show notability. Jayden54 17:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Notability of
CKY Videos. Deizio talk 17:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Delete per nom. Edison 15:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The person is absolutely notable, but not at all as a musician. No importance asserted. -- Kicking222 02:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:57Z

Sex Party (British Columbia)

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)

extreme finge, nonnotabilty, simply provides free advertising for party TotallyTempo 21:11, 19 December 2006 (UTC) cat=O[reply]

  • Keep, again as per Ground Zero's rationale. -- The Anome 15:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Wow! 0.37% of the votes! Edison 16:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, or do we only keep Nazi parties that never made it into a parliament? Alf photoman 17:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep sourced, encyclopaedic. Given that the party has notability (notability is not subjective) we can reasonably assess that in addition to the article being sourced and encyclopaedic, no rational has been advanced for deletion. A no-brainer. WilyD 18:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - this is a registered political party, and the article itself is sourced meeting
    WP:RS. -- Whpq 18:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep per Ground Zero. Please close. Just H 20:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Registered political parties which field candidates in democratic elections should always have articles, regardless of whether they're "fringe" or not; it's impossible for Wikipedia to cover the elections in proper depth if they don't. Keep. Bearcat 22:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete As per what I have stated earlier, extreme nonnotability, simply gives free press to fringe movement, something like 0.00015% of total votes cast TotallyTempo 22:12, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter how "fringe" a political party is. If it's registered with the proper electoral authorities and has fielded actual candidates in a provincial, state or federal election, then it's notable enough for Wikipedia, period. Their individual candidates might not merit separate articles, but the party itself most certainly does. Bearcat 05:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep. Met provincial eligibility standards and ran candidates. Plenty of press coverage. I'd argue the uniqueness of its platform further contributes to its notability. The Tom 23:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep please this party is sourced and notable erasing this makes no sense at all Yuckfoo 02:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, unless anyone has any further objections it seems I have lost this debate. Is it appropriate for me to remove the "Nomination for deletion" tag on the article or is there a proper procedure?. TotallyTempo 15:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:54Z

Toby Crabel

Toby Crabel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) — (View AfD)

Being a millionaire, is this enough to make this bio's notable? Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F.--Hu12 13:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete per nom. Edison 16:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, by far not only an anonymour millionaire. The article is sourced.--Ioannes Pragensis 23:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom.--Hu12 19:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep It is a
    WP:BIO
    , something which is easily verifiable.
Also read: Wikipedia:Deletion_policy#Problem_articles_where_deletion_may_not_be_needed
900 ghits strongly suggests notability[58] shows up about 900 unique hits.
This article is also part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics
In every decade we have a top 10 of Money Management, this person was ranked in the 90's as a top 10.
Crabel notable in his profession Money Management. He has ranked high in the Money management league tables.
Read the lead paragraph its all in there and referenced. There is proven
reliable sources
He manages 2.8 billion dollars.
There is a rating of the Top Hedge Funds every year and this guy is on the list ranked "number 101 out of 196 funds"
All referenced. Read the Lead paragraph!!
The editor who nominated this article is over-reacting. This user (the creator of the articles has been around for 9 months now and seems to have a number of perfectly decent, constructive, NPOV edits. And even a few anti-spam edits! Ok, so maybe he likes that particular book a bit too much, and likes to write about Money Managers only. Just engage in dialog with him. This is a case where
presumption of good-faith
seems natural.
Trade2tradewell 00:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is beginning to look like deletion by profession. Not all stock traders are equal.DGG 02:15, 25 December 2006 (UTC).
  • Keep. The AfD's in this string have common characteristics: The subject is notable within a specialized business-related field; the article has stylistic problems and includes puffery but has enough substance to establish notability. AfD should not be used as Cleanup. JamesMLane t c 17:05, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:53Z

Tom Basso

Tom Basso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) — (View AfD)

Being mentioned in a book, is this enough to make this bio notable? Fails

spam: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Spam/2006_Archive_Dec#Major_article_spam.3F.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hu12 (talk • contribs
) 12:45, 20 December 2006

  • Delete per nom. Edison 16:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete does not seem notable. Delete unless expanded making a case for notability during AfD. Pleclech 22:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. If somebody publishes a book in the Wiley publishing house, it is a clear sign of notability. They really do not publish everything. Plus he has other merits.--Ioannes Pragensis 23:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)::I do not share your faith about the notability of anyone one particular publisher's books. Better to decide by book than by publishing house. DGG 02:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Does not meet criteria for sufficient notability listed in the Wikipedia:Notability (people)--Hu12 00:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep after a minor rewrite with reliable sources. The Lead section shows notability and the References section should be read by the editors. Just needs even further expansion. Reason for deletion is no longer valid. There appear to be many separate industry media reference links, that shows there is reasonable industry interest. Meets this criterion from
    WP:BIO - "The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person." This person is factual, and verifiable. Well-referenced, and encyclopaedic. I'm having trouble seriously believing it's possible to nominate this article in good faith. I'm not sure what the agenda is here but the subject is clearly notable. This person has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of this person. This article can be cleaned up and set on track. All of the links provided are from independent reliable third-party, reputable, non-trivial published sources. Be aware that Money management is a highly specialized, yet suitable topic for WP
    . Editors please look at the multiple independent reliable sources under References. Found multiple non-trivial reliable external sources about this person, this then establishes notability. It meets notability criteria and sources are reliable.
Clearly notable, and widely reported. Perhaps a better article needs to be written, but this is not the form for doing that. He has been featured in mainstream newsprint publications. It should be noted that due to a large overhaul of the page, all votes before the overhaul of the Wikipedia article should be reconsidered.
The article was not properly sourced when it was nominated, and has now been much improved.
Comments on References
Featured in numerous articles [59] and here [60]
including U.S. News & World Report [61]
12,000 ghits [62]
Found various articles at
Lexis-Nexis at (Talk:Tom Basso). Here is the 2 found at The Wall Street Journal [63]

The article needs to be updated to include all these references.


The St. Louis Post-Dispatch featured 3 times.
Instructions: Go to the advanced search page here:[64] and type in the article Title and the Year:
Tips on Preparing For Recession and date (1990)
What is Actually Happening When Your Stock Splits and date (1992)
Money Manager's System Helps Avoid Frustration and date (1993)

Trade2tradewell 00:02, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep This is now really beginning to look like deletion by profession. Not all stock traders are equal.DGG 02:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC).
  • Keep. The AfD's in this string have common characteristics: The subject is notable within a specialized business-related field; the article has stylistic problems and includes puffery but has enough substance to establish notability. AfD should not be used as Cleanup. JamesMLane t c 17:05, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to University of Chichester. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:50Z

University of Chichester F.C.

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Aside from the fact that the article is very poorly written and formatted, this team plays in a level 12 league in the English pyramid, below the bar of notability. Creating editor appears to be the team's manager ChrisTheDude 15:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy deleted as empty/nonsense. -- The Anome 15:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Puzzlement

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Wikipedia is not a dictionary Llykstw 15:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I put a Speedy tag on it as it is basically a nonsensical article anyway. SmartGuy 15:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete

Naconkantari 20:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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DatabaseSports.com

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no external Google hits for "DatabaseSports" or "DatabaseSports.com", references are all to materials created by the site itself (except an assertion that Sports Illustrated commented on it, cited by a link back to databasesports.com itself. Prod is contested on the talk page, so I removed the tag and an moving it to AfD. Geoffrey Spear 16:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't disagree more but go to the article's talk page for discussion.
Quadzilla99 16:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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No, this is how we do deletion discussions, not "go to the article's talk page". Especially since you refuse to discuss there until an admin comes. -Amarkov blahedits 16:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok this is what is on the talk page:
"::Let me just state my case then and we'll leave it for actual admins as opposed to imaginary ones and end the bickering. If I acquire any further information I'll post it later:
1) databaseSports.com is referred to in more than 10 thousand Wikipedia pages. Pretty much every single athlete has a link in their template or Wikipedia page to a branch site of databaseSports.com as a source to provide their career statistics, such as databaseFootball.com[65], databaseBasketball.com[66], basketball-reference.com[67], databaseHockey.com[68], and baseball-reference.com[69]. It seems incongruos to refer to the site in almost every single page about an athlete then not have a page giving the history of the site.
2)The site Alexa does not list unique users or page views per month and databaseSports.com includes about 10 branch sites which are listed individually on Alexa.
3)Sports Illustrated did rave about them, however I didn't save the issue so I have no way to site the actual issue. Also the wording in the article says "according to their website" so pointing that out is pointless.
"DatabaseSports" and "DatabaseSports.com" searches don't return a single Google hit from sites not owned by this company. Assertion that you saw something in a credible source you're not able to cite doesn't meet
WP:V by a longshot. Geoffrey Spear 15:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
We need to get some actual admins in on this, when they arrive as I stated I'll continue the dicussion further.
Quadzilla99 16:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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I will make one further note: any site listed in point 1 above is in reality databaseSports.com. So referring to databaseSports.com alone is false and misleading it includes all the sites as a visit to the site will explain also baseball-Reference.com is being converted to databasebaseball.com. As I also mentioned almost every single athlete in Wikipedia is linked to a databaseSports.com site in the athlete's template. Also I don't use bold lettering, cap letters or extra exclamation points or question marks in my arguments so if you wish to imagine any portion of my statements in that way please do so.
Quadzilla99 16:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:49Z

Oscarwatch

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Appears to fail

WP:WEB. No non-bloggy results in first several pages of a google search, from what I could tell. Delete.-- Syrthiss 16:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Keep

Naconkantari 20:35, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Personality Crisis (band)

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No assertion of notability, previously speedied twice before, only 48 Ghits for article title, no reliable sources, no sources at all, no sources to support notability, POV, sounds like an advert, nothing that would lead me to believe that this lot pass

Deletion! 16:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete: Assertion of notability=yes, sufficient assertion of notability=no. Heimstern Läufer 19:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. On the contrary, the band indeed passes WP:MUSIC! Criterion 6: "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable." This is not your average "I'm in a garage band so let's make an article about it" kind of article. —EdGl 23:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Requires editing for a keep - doesn't mention who went on to form what subsequently notable bands, nor do those notable band's articles link to Personality Crisis (band). Without these edits, I vote delete. Josh Parris#: 00:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Read fourth sentence in. Does this satisfy your condition to keep? —EdGl 00:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep based on marginal notability. Needs editing. Doczilla 07:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep (do I get a vote as I'm the page originator?) There's a lot of info (unfortunately not that I can produce verifiable) that argues for notability, I've done a bit more work to clarify where verifiable info exists. Ketchumk 01:28, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:48Z

SECONS

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Company lacks notability per

WP:CORP Calltech 16:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Creating deletion discussion page for

WP:CORP. Company is a Czech organization listing an English website. However, all the pages on this site are broken links with no information other than a nominal HOME page. Searching on Google results in nothing outside the Czech site and single US website page. Calltech 16:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:46Z

Bernard beanie

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Re-creation of an already-deleted article (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernie Beanie) under a new title. A non-notable puppet character. Indefatigable 16:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are even less notable aspects of the same puppet troupe:

Ho Ho Ho Bear (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Sophistry, mere sophistry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Indefatigable 16:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete Bernard bear as recreated content. Delete the others, nn. Otto4711 17:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per nom as not being notable; upgrade to speedy delete for Bernard beanie per Otto4711.
    top 23:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete per nom. Josh Parris#: 00:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete and Delete per Otto4711.
    Danny Lilithborne 03:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Keep

Naconkantari 20:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The Hitchers (band from Limerick)

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  • Is there any way of
    Cpmartin 17:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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There's their John Peel entry, already referenced in the article, but I don't think there are any other archived playlists on the BBC site. Quite a few mentions in web postings of one sort or another (Google "hitchers BBC strachan"), but those, as we know, aren't admissible evidence. Tevildo 17:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Hitchers recorded a session for John Peel in 1997 and featured in John's 'Festive 50' with their single 'Strachan'. 'Strachan' also featured on Steve Lamacq's show on BBC Radio 1 during the recent FIFA World Cup. BBC - Keeping it Peel Airwave 17:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, Peel was known for his eclectic selections. However, that doesn't come under any section of the list "Criteria for musicians and ensembles" in
Cpmartin 17:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The Hitchers respect (at the least) section six of "Criteria for musicians and ensembles" Wikipedia:Notability (music). The Hitchers drummer and main songwriter, Niall Quinn, was a founding member of The Cranberries The Cranberries Official Biography - See paragraph sevenAirwave 18:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. Does seem like he was in "The Cranberry Saw Us", the predecessor to "The Cranberries". At that time, "they were known to just a fraction of music fans in Limerick city". The band re-named to "The Cranberries" after he left, and they got the new singer, Dolores O'Riordan and became very successful. Therefore I argue that he was never actually in the notable band "The Cranberries", but in an unsuccessful previous band. Hence section 6 doesn't apply, and the band is not notable.
Cpmartin 18:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Let's not forget to disclose that
few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply
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Indeed, that's how I came to realise that neither page is worthy of Wikipedia; you will notice that I am not contesting the deletion of that page. As we both seem to have an agenda perhaps we should both stay out of the rest of this discussion and see what others think. I think we've made our respective views clear.
no other edits outside this topic. [reply
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Sorry, but to come back to The Cranberries for a second, Niall, as a favour to the band he was leaving (amicably it must be said) contacted Dolores to come try out for the band as his replacement. See here. Therefore, no Niall, no Cranberries, as we now know them. A fairly notable involvement I'd say. Airwave 10:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would also like to add that The Hitchers also respect section One of "Criteria for musicians and ensembles"
    Hot Press (magazine) is Ireland's number one music magazine. Please understand that I am a novice as regards Wikipedia and was ignorant when it came to referencing sources... I will see to it that everything is properly sourced asap. Airwave 19:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Weak keep per Tev. -Toptomcat 17:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletions. --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 19:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep Claims of notability: tours, records, awards, favorable reviews in magazines, need to be substantiated by citations to the issue of the magazine, to the date, author, title of newspaper articles. Meets WP"MUSIC if claims are proven by reference to the sources independent of the band. Edison 22:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here is a link to another press review for The Hitchers, this time from the NME. Airwave 01:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • With regard to section Ten of "Criteria for musicians and ensembles" Wikipedia:Notability (music), The Hitchers song, "You can only love someone so much but you can hate them all the way to hell", featured in the soundtrack to the Steve Barron film Rat. Airwave 01:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is all very good stuff. Remember that it needs to go in the article as well as the AfD debate. Tevildo 01:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Might I suggest a redirect to
    Danny Lilithborne 03:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Well, the Teeside band is up for prod; if that goes through and this AfD results in a "Keep", I think that the Limerick band has a reasonable claim to The Hitchers itself. Tevildo 04:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm working on making a list of references. I will have something ready soon. Airwave 16:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have added a 'Press' section to the article that links to various press clippings. Still a couple of sources missing but I have requested the info directly from the band and am waiting for them to get back to me. Airwave 12:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if you carry on like that, the article might just get to hang around. I still think a large fraction of the timeline will have to go, as it's uncited or untraceable. Especially the "Limerick event guide". Put the links on the article, take out everything from the timeline that doesn't conform to
Cpmartin 17:06, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:45Z

AKA (band)

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Does not appear to be a notable band, failing

WP:MUSIC. Not verifiable other than the band's own website. JRHorse 17:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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<band is ligetmate. what more proof do you need? Kevlar69er 18:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:44Z

Blowies

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This appears to refer to a slang term. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, per

WP:WINAD. JRHorse 17:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Speedy delete per

WP:CSD#A7 Tonywalton  | Talk 17:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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David Gentile

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"He's da coolest." is not a reason to have an article. The creator has already removed a speedy delete warning for the reason of "This should be kept cuz i like the page" (check talk history because the creator blanked the talk page.) Epolk 17:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy Delete and so flagged. I have also reverted the blanking of the talk page so it may be seen in all its triviality. Fiddle Faddle 17:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep, as consensus seems to show that after revamp of article, notability is now asserted. -Patstuarttalk|edits 19:41, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whip Jones

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Relisting from long and unusually confusing previous nomination for deletion. Participants in the previous one are welcome to participate here, but please, be more brief. Procedural renomination, no opinion from me. AnonEMouse (squeak) 17:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - meets
    WP:BIO. -- Whpq 18:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep - I agree, there are assertions of notability, sources, etc. Kudos to the editor who cleaned it up. --Dmz5 18:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep No reason is given for wanting to delete it. Its verifiable and a very notable subject. A Supreme Court case; two skiing Halls of Fame; and an endowed chair at Harvard. Whats the reason given for deletion? Bad faith nomination or the nominator never bothered to do a Google search. If the article needed improvement, this is not the venue for that. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 22:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • No real comment on your reasoning, Richard, but please remember to
      assume good faith. I don't see any evidence (i.e. edit warring or the like) to make me believe that this was a bad faith nomination, or that it was listed on AfD for an improper purpose. A Google search of "'Whip Jones' Highland" gets only 98 hits. I'm neutral, but there is definitely an argument that the article fails WP:Bio. --TheOtherBob 00:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
      ]
A list of google hit counts and alternate source BIOs can be found at: Talk:Whip Jones -BMcCJ
  • Comment Its never my intention to be rude or impolite, but I am sometimes critical. And people should be critical of me. I have made many spelling errors before Firefox 2.0, and many, many typos that have been caught. Editing is fun, I enjoy it immensely, but has consequences if you make an error or typo. Just look at his Hall of Fame biography. His death is listed for the wrong year. Very sloppy. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 02:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • A procedural nomination (which this was) cannot be bad faith. Don't throw that around where it isn't warranted. We have enough incivility as it is.--Dhartung | Talk 01:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment three high quality sources should be sufficient. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 01:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • They may well be, don't panic, most of the other people here seem to agree with you so far. The first nomination was when the article was in much worse shape than now. The fact that it was improved part way was just one of the reasons for relisting the nomination afresh. (If you really want to see the others, follow the link above to the previous discussion, but keep a tight grip on your sanity, as it may try to escape.) AnonEMouse (squeak) 14:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • With no offense to the contributer (he's a newbie, and admitted that he was confused and made a mistake), several editions along the line of [70] made the AFD horribly convoluded. Patstuarttalk|edits 14:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as the Supreme Court case makes him notable, if the founding of the ski area or its donation to Harvard doesn't. --Dhartung | Talk 01:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep - Ditto, above. BMcCJ
  • Comment. If the article was then as it is now, I wouldn't have nominated it. Under the circumstances, I need to make it clear that I am not !voting delete at this time. But, as a renomination, it is not suitable for a speedy keep unless all the delete voters there agree.Arthur Rubin | (talk)
  • Speedy Keep What nonsense to bother authors with having to defend meaningful articles. There should be a stiff penalty for unsupportable deletion nominations. Why don't the critics spend time improving articles rather than nominating for deletion. If they are not familiar enough with the topic to propose improvements, then how can they be qualified to judge the merits of notability. Kevin Murray 00:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Four things, I guess (sorry, I'm going to be long-winded):
      1. It's generally bad form to solicit votes, as BMcCJ did on Mr. Murray's talk page[71]. Some people refer to it as "canvassing" or
        vote stacking
        . Please don't do it - it harms this process (though I know BMcCJ is a new editor, and I'm sure he had no idea about that).
      2. Please try to
        bold
        and trying to protect and improve Wikipedia, even if the person gets it wrong. You disagree about the notability of this article and want to keep it - great. Vote to keep. But the idea that we should "penalize" people because they disagree with you - I disagree with that strongly.
      3. If people had to be previously familiar with the subject in order to vote to delete an article, nothing would ever be deleted. Those things notable enough for people to become familiar with them are...probably notable enough for Wikipedia. Stuff no one is familiar with (some 13 year old's Pokemon collection, somebody's friend's band) is probably non-notable. Would you really suggest that we couldn't delete that stuff because there aren't any experts who can comment on it?
      4. And, finally - did you have any reason why you think this person was notable? Please don't take this the wrong way, but I don't see anything about the article in your comment - only a call for "stiff penalties" for the nominator. So why, in your mind, is this person notable? --TheOtherBob 03:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep This one seems close to me, and I initially voted delete when the article was in worse shape. I don't think the Supreme Court case matters. Remember that there's a difference between "notable" and "impressive." It's impressive that he pushed a case to the Supreme Court. But "a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works, whose sources are independent of the subject itself." The case received multiple non-trivial mentions in published works - but only because of what the Supreme Court did. (And, I might add, we haven't actually written an article about the case yet. When I have a little more time I may start that, but anyone else should feel free to as well.) I haven't seen anyone point out any similar media mentions of Whip Jones in relation to the case. I draw a distinction between someone like Brown, Roe, or Lochner (who became notable just by having their name in the title of a famous case), and those who were just involved in a notable case without themselves receiving any press. So I would discount the court case. However, he seems to have received multiple non-trivial mentions in published works in regards to his skiing business and his Harvard endowment - and that's enough for me. --TheOtherBob 03:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Please keep this discussion to the merits of this article. I propose taking discussions of the process to whatever forums Wikipedia has for those discussions (feel free to add the links to those forums BELOW) so that this conversation can stay on track.
    • I think the positive case for this article (above), and the facts that have been in it, for quite a long time, have been listed and mentioned enough.
    • Thanks, Warm Wishes All, and Happy Holidays! -BMcCJ
  • Keep per nom - the rewrites have brought this 'up to par' quite well.
    SkierRMH 06:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep per nom Johnbod 09:01, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Redirect. I would merge but again, there are no sources (other than a forum post) so there is nothing for me to merge. If you think you can provide the sources that makes this a policy-abiding inclusion in

List of secondary characters in Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends the edit histories here and there are preserved. Just dig it out. ~ trialsanderrors 02:13, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Cheese (Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends)

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Despite his decent number of appearances, Cheese is a fairly minor character. Since even the MAIN characters of the show don’t have their own articles, I recommend it be merged and redirected to

List of secondary characters in Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends -- WikidSmaht (talk) 18:12, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Speedy keep This article concerns an important literary character and narrative device. A strange choice to mention

WP:SNOW refers to this closure. The two remaining articles can be independently nominated. (aeropagitica) 23:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

Scheherazade

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I know that the well read people are going to throw their hands up in the air and say "if characters like

Captain Kirk
can have pages of their own why not a literary giant like Scheherazade", well please don't do an automatic keep, read my arguments before voting.

The page is very small in comparison to other heroines like

Moby Dick, is far more influential on his story than Scheherazade is on her's, but he doesn't have a page of his own, only a subheading on the book's page and I think the same should be done with Scheherazade. I have also nominated Shahryar and Dunyazad for the same reasons. Hera1187 18:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

I am also nominating the following related as the same argument applies to them only to a greater extent:

To continue with the Moby Dick example, neither Tashtego nor Dagoo have articles; I don't know if one can argue that
Dunyazad are significant enough to warrant their own articles, but merging them into the book's might be a way to improve the latter by expanding its coverage. I might also argue that Ahab does deserve his own article, but I'm not gonna do it.--Dmz5 19:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Fair point re: WP:SNOW - it does seem rather unlikely that many users will agree with this nomination. Can we unbundle the other two minor characters and have a new thread about them? That seems likely to generate discussion.--Dmz5 19:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:41Z

2006-07 NHL transactions

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Wikipedia is not a collector of

indiscriminate information
. This level of detail is well beyond the scope of what's appropriate for Wikipedia. I am also nominating the following for the same reason:

  • 2003-04 NHL transactions
  • 2005-06 NHL transactions

Dsreyn 18:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Keep: I think the die-hard hockey fans out there will be interested looking back on the previous seasons and find out what their favourite team did to become a powerhouse team or what they did to acquire all those young players. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia. This kind of topic is a prime example of what should be in a sports encyclopedia. If we have topics for the
    2006-07 NHL season, why not expand it further and have this topic which seperate but related to that one? I see no reason for it to be deleted. Thricecube 19:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Comment. From
WP:AFD: Please disclose whether you are an article's primary author or if you otherwise have a vested interest in the article. Dsreyn 19:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:39Z

Sigrid D. Peyerimhoff

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This article has been tagged to be cleaned up since August 2005, but hasn't been done so. Since it hasn't been cleaned by the editor I suggest the article to be deleted. --

Pinkkeith 19:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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I have cleaned up the article, removed some direct copy from her biography and added several references particularly to her publications. I removed two external links that were just to single papers (out of around 500) and added more general external links. --Bduke 21:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:35Z

Revolutionary socialism

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Unsourced and arbitrary, with unclear encyclopediatic value. The socialist movement was divided in the 1910s into a revolutionary and reformist wing, the revolutionary being the communist movement and the reformist being the social democratic. There are other ideologically tendencies that are both socialist and revolutionary, but there is no common denominator. --Soman 19:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Unsourced can easily be fixed, and it's a thoroughly valid concept, whether or not you like it. -Amarkov blahedits 19:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment are you arguing for delete or keep? --Soman 19:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep, sorry. -Amarkov blahedits 19:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment, the issue if hardly whether i like or dislike this concept. rather I question whether there is any real substance to this article other than [revolutionary socialism = communism + anarchism]. If not, then it should not have a separate article. --Soman 19:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • What about the Revolutionary Socialists in Russia during the Revolution? And the parties in many countries (e.g., the Netherlands) which used this did not want to call themselves "communist" since this term was connected with the Soviet Union? --Bever
          • Yes, what about them? Do they constitute a separate political tendency? --Soman 10:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • You could make the same argument for Anarcho-capitalism, [anarcho-capitalism = anarchism + capitalism]. -Amarkov blahedits 19:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • Comment: no, i think there is a difference. the relation is the opposite. anarcho-communism is a separate tendency from the mainstream anarchism. revolutionary socialism is not a separate communist or anarchist tendency, rather its a category that encompasses both communists and anarchists. However, except for being a) revolutionary and b) socialists, communist and anarchists have little in common. --Soman 19:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and add sources. Noteworthy topic, but it needs better coverage than this. Heimstern Läufer 19:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and source. A political group can be called pretty much what its members want to call it.--
    Anthony.bradbury 19:25, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep - do explain why Britannica has an article on this exact title.Bakaman 19:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment, doesn't the Britannica seem to give little additional definition than revolutionary socialism = socialism that is revolutionary ? --Soman 19:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep per Britannica. --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 19:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep through personal experience -- many members of an organization with which I am involved describe themselves as revolutionary socialists, and are neither anarchists or Communists (i.e., Marxist-Leninists). The article as it currently stands is unsatisfactory and I've wanted to try to clean it up and expand it, but haven't had the time or sources on hand to do so. I'm reasonably confident there are such sources, but since I won't have an opportunity to look into them myself for several weeks, my keep will have to be weak. -David Schaich Talk/Cont 21:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, as per Brittanica. Ford MF 21:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep
    WP:N notable termRaveenS 20:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep Quite a lot happened in the socialist movement after 1910, and we shouldn't oversimplify. The sects may sometimes be hard to distinguish, but that's what an encyclopedia is for. DGG 02:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result was Delete

Naconkantari 20:39, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

Luminoth Temple

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Speedy deletion contested. Dead forum that was never notable to start with. Utterly fails

WP:WEB. Delete RWR8189 19:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Keep pending a reason other than {{{text}}}. -Amarkov blahedits 19:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment not really sure how that happened, must have been some error when I submitted it.--RWR8189 19:25, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No sources given, I can't find any, and there isn't even a concievable way in which reliable sources could be created later. -Amarkov blahedits 19:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No non-trivial coverage of subject by reliable, third-party sources. -- Satori Son 19:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been added to the
    list of CVG deletions. Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 19:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Weak Keep, it was an official Nintendo Forum, similar to its bigger counter part the NSider. --ShadowJester07 20:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Short-lived promotional blog; lacks independent sources. Edison 22:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Nintendo NSider Forums.Redirect to Metroid Prime 2: Echoes. It was essentially a long-lived promotional spinoff of the Nintendo forums (or so I think). --- RockMFR 04:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Gvisp 05:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Non-notable dead elitist message board with no claims as to why it's any different from another message board. The Kinslayer 11:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect to Metroid Prime 2: Echoes. It is already mentioned and explained in that article, so a simple redirect will do instead of deletion. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 12:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete doesn't seem any more notable than any other forum. Just H 18:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and Redirect, if not keep as is. I don't know about you, but I don't know of any other private, invite-only forums run by Nintendo. It was open for over a year with over two thousand members (although not all were active), and it had exclusive information, pictures, videos, and more. I do not think it deserves to be deleted, but if you insist on getting rid of it, we should merge it into the MP2 page. Also, if you go to the Chozo Sanctuary found in the External Links, you will find a section containing many screenshots and transcripts of conversions and such. If you contact the administrators, they'd be many than happy than to provide you wish these materials. Lupus Gemini 22:03, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or Redirect to the above mentioned merge target. Do not keep as is. It's a major violation of WP:NOT, even if it's notable. Currently, the article does nothing more than "exist only to describe the nature, appearance or services a website offers" which is a major no-no under
    Web content guidelines? The article doesn't provide any. --Kunzite 01:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Redirect to Metroid Prime 2: Echoes. Most of this article is non notable (ranks, forums, ...), and the subject is already covered in the other article. -- lucasbfr talk 01:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete

Naconkantari 20:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

Nintendorks

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Speedy deletion contested. No assertion of notability. Site utterly fails

WP:WEB, should be deleted RWR8189 19:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

Although mere speculation, perhaps RWR8189's conservative views are influencing his objectivity, because one of Nintendorks' writers occasionally publishes liberal editorials. VerusMaya II 20:36, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment this is User:Momtartin first contribution to Wikipedia.--RWR8189 21:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:31Z

Garfield The Third

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The storyline is not concrete, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.

Sr13 19:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:30Z

FM Scene

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Unsourced

WP:V) Recury 19:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:27Z

The Mile After

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Yet another vanity band page. Only Google hits are for their page, their MySpace page, and some MP3 download service. No listing in AMG. One self-released EP. Chowbok ☠ 20:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Fails everything on
    WP:BAND. I'm also not seeing any evidence other than the article that they were signed by Rushmore Records, as the article claims. Also, one can tell that this group isn't notable when their "website" redirects to their myspace page. PullToOpen 20:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:19Z

Counter Terrorist Team

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Clay Dial (CTT Special Operations Agent) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Geoffrey Clines (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Note. I have added the articles for the two characters to this AFD. Fan-1967 20:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Element from a work of fiction with no assertion of notability (appears to be fanfiction). (Wikipedia:Notability (fiction)) Marasmusine 20:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Folks, this guy is exactly wrong. Claytheway2 or Fed. Clay Dial —The preceding

unsigned comment was added by Claytheway2 (talk • contribs
).

  • Delete per nom -- Whpq 23:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom.
    top 23:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]


  • Delete per nom --
    MikeMorley
    }
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The result was keep. John254 03:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

William Thompson (general)

  • Delete doesn't seem notable. Just H 20:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There is no specific criterion what rank an army officer has to hold to be automatically notable, but I think that a brigadier-general from the Revolutionary War is probably automatically notable. He was the first officer to be commissioned as a Colonel in the United States Army. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 20:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, notability does not come with rank, only the amount that switches to turkey Alf photoman 21:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep First Colonel in the army of the United States is pretty notable. Brigidier General in the American Revolution is pretty notable. The article has 3 references. Edison 21:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and Rename to "William Thompson (General)", if only to distinguish between the rank and the antonym of "specific". --Dennisthe2 22:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep, absolutely notable by virtue of high rank. See also here, which includes correspondence to and from General Washington. —Chowbok ☠ 22:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep, even a street in New York City is named after him. Ipeirotis 16:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:12Z

NES Zapper Project Help

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There is some interesting information here but it isn't encyclopedic. Fragglet 20:25, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 22:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

People from Plymouth

  • Delete At best, this should be merged into the parent article, but there isn't alot there to merge. I mean, Napoleon? I know whenever I think of Napoleon, the first thing I think of is Plymouth, England... Just H 23:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Tentative. There are articles and categories like 'People connected to Plymouth' and this article could be tidied up by reviewing all of those items together. Napoleon would be a connected person, rather than someone from Plymouth. I can't confess to knowing on what basis someone is 'from' a place - I'll have to read up on policy and then maybe I can make a more meaningful contribution here.Stevebritgimp 21:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename, Reexplain I would suggest keeping the page but, a) renaming it to People from Plymouth, England and explaing what from means and clean up the list: born there, lived there, left and went somewhere else from there??? Can a person be "from" more than one place? All the from pages remind me of that joke: "such and such" is a great place to be from" but I like the from pages. Cool list, just thought Napolean was from an Italian island. 69.19.14.27 23:02, 17 December 2006 (UTC) sorry for the IP, I'm firewalled.[reply]
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  • Delete This list should be renamed List of people connected to Plymouth, England, since the only non-list entry states that the list entries don't have to be from Plymouth, England. However, there are already two categories for people, respectively, from and connected to, Plymouth, England. Since the only difference between the list and the categories are that the list has three word long bios, I don't think Wikipedia needs both. I favour categories. Secateur 21:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as trivial. I guess Napoleon is here because he sailed as a prisoner from Plymouth to St Helena. But I shouldn't have to guess.--
    Anthony.bradbury 21:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete Title does not correspond to contents. Too broad and arbitrary- Napolean? That's like listing
    Yassir Arafat as "People from New York" because they were at the U.N. Edison 21:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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The result was Keep and cleanup. Cbrown1023 22:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pedro Camargo

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Bump from speedy. Possibly notable; does need major cleanup. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-13 23:22Z

  • Keep and cleanup "Pedro Camargo" in quotes, gets over 40,000 ghits, (with maternal surname, still 11,000) his CD's and DVD's still in print. Tubezone 10:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Redirect to
    Pedro Camargo Mariano, which is just a stub, but is at least done in Wikipedia style. Anything that would be merged from this article would have to be rewritten anyway. Recury 20:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. -- Longhair\talk 09:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Katholos

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Not notable. While he was a member of a representative team, the team did not do anything particularly newsworthy. The only significant independent coverage of Peter is in local papers on local soccer teams, and confirmation that he was on the Sydney Olympic FC. No coverage of his impact or performance on the team. Chovain 20:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Per nom. Does not provide any proof of notability. Edison 21:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - he played for a team at the top level of his sport in his country. Precedent seems clear for sportspeople. -- Bpmullins | Talk 23:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I'm led to believe he was a member of the
    Socceroos - the Australian national football (soccer) team which represents Australia in international football competitions. Article needs more than a week to grow from more than a stub. Josh Parris#: 00:13, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep. A Google News Archive search shows he played for Marconi. [72]. He also played for the Socceroos in friendlies against England and New Zealand in 1983. [73]. In fact this SBS cache shows that he played between 1981 and 1984 for Australia as well as for several NSL sides. Meets
    WP:BIO. Capitalistroadster 05:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 05:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep played for a notable NSL team (Sydney Olympic, and if they're not newsworthy I think that says more about soccer coverage in Australia in the 80s) and the Socceroos! There's some more information at Technik Football which he founded [74]: he played for Canterbury, St George, Sydney Olympic, Larissa (Greece) Apia, Marconi, and Melita from 1976 – 1996. --Canley 06:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I think I see a consensus forming here. I'm happy to let it go. (Or do we need to wait longer?) Chovain 07:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:09Z

Controlling of Projects

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Non-notable. I've previously deleted it as CSD nn web, but I've agreed to relist it on AFD. Delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirected back to

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Wookie

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None notable person. All google hits points to the the race Wookiee. No sources M8v2 20:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:06Z

Animal Attacks Seagulls

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Apparently an amateur film by some high school students. No indication it has been released. Not verifiable, not notable. Fan-1967 21:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Released where? Distributed by whom? In what theatres? Most importantly, where are the
    Verify any of the material in this article. Fan-1967 21:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Per the article, it was filmed with a
    Nokia 6280. -- Fan-1967 21:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Hey, lots of famous directors started back when with 8 mm. Edison 15:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It lacks sources. To answer other editors, according to the revised article, it has been released on CD. Total sales of about 35 units, 40 pence a piece, 13+ pounds total.Secateur 22:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Uh, isn't that about the price of a blank CD? Fan-1967 22:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you think the profit margins are razor thin now, then wait until they get Carrot Top in a lead role... --Kinu t/c 07:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails
    WP:CRYSTALballery. --Dennisthe2 22:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Speedy delete a7. NawlinWiki 22:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lyze

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Delete as failing

WP:V. Probably a CSD A7 candidate, but I didn't want to get into an edit war with the author in restoring the tag over and over, so brought here for the record. --Kinu t/c 21:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 12:01Z

Groupboard

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This article has no notable sources. No media coverage. It fails

WP:WEB. Alexa Trend/Rank: 231,721 (1 Month) 408,476 (3 Month). Anomo 22:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Redirect to Irshad Manji —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 11:24Z

Project ijtihad

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not notable, taken directly from website Nlsanand 22:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article takes most of its material directly (verbatim) from its own website. It appears to read like Irshad Manji's my space page. Most of the differences were corrections I made myself before realizing that there were no real sources. Nlsanand 22:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom.
    top 23:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete per nom. TruthSpreaderreply 02:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/Redirect rather than delete. This page should simply redirect to the Irshad Manji article. "Project Itjihad" might be a valid section in that article, as long as the section doesn't carry undue weight. And of course, any plagiarized or POV text from this article should not be used at all. Peter G Werner 21:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was No Consensus, defaults to keep.

Naconkantari 20:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Mammoth Tank

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The Mammoth Tank is a tank in the

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The result was Keep

Naconkantari 20:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Handbra

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Unsourced article that looks like pure

original research on a non-notable topic. Prod was removed without comment. Valrith 22:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 07:58Z

Pikmin 3

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Not enough

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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 11:20Z

Ever-failing character

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Delete per

WP:NOT. This unsourced, neologistic term appears to have been created by the article's original writer. It has almost no Google hits. All 26 hits (11 when it cuts redundant hits) appear to draw its information from this article. Doczilla 23:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus. Conscious 15:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Guildhall at SMU

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A student programme. Not much more to be said, really. Guy (Help!) 23:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 05:46Z

Xavier Castellà

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As far as I can tell, fails

WP:MUSIC. No articles (except dabs and lists) link to Xavier Castellà, none of the people mentioned as associates have articles. Many Google hits, but I suspect Xavier Castellà is a self-promoter - the sites seem to be user-supplied content type sites (the only substantive article edits are by user:Xaviercastella, who seems only interested in making edits about Xavier Castellà). Such vanity must go rewarded. Delete. Josh Parris#: 23:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to

The Great Story in lieu of deletion —Quarl (talk
) 2006-12-26 05:44Z

Epic of Evolution

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Who is the originator of this idea? The list of proponents, including Heraclitus, Goethe, and Darwin, is pointless because it does not say who (apart from the Wikipedian who created this article) posits that these figures were promoting "The Epic of Evolution". I am going to try to edit the article into a keepable form. Here is the version that I am nominating for deletion. — goethean ॐ 17:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question aboue - there is no mention of Heraclitus in the original and restored article. Goethe is not presented as a proponent only that he used the term in some way in the long past which is usually done in referenceing the history of a word. Darwin is a main concern of the controversy and he is appropriate mentioning. In any event its being removed.--Jlrobertson (talk) 21:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as non-notable. -Amarkov blahedits 23:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not notable ??? see below.
  • Neutral for now. The book isn't an obvious failure of
    WP:BK - respectable publisher, and some legit reviews, but Amazon rank of only 650,000-odd. If we can steer the article towards the book and establish notability, I don't see why it shouldn't stay. Tevildo 23:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete not notable enough for wik. -- Dasnedius 18:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • What??? see below--Jlrobertson (talk) 21:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC) An article with 130+ references is notable.--Jlrobertson (talk) 21:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retain for integration with other entries: "The Great Story" and "Big History", which all have the same theme; that is, to relate the new story of creation that originates exclusively from scholarly science and history, as contrasted with "The Creation Myth" that originates from religious teachings and other anecdotal themes claimed to be inspired by divine communications. --TomEM 17:22, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Retain restore article contains over 130 references indication it is a major topic with an abundance of sources. It is the subject of conferences, books and college courses. It is being discussed in their writings by very notable people. It is certainly notable. Some of the comments above were made reading a significantly reduced article. This is about evolution which gets hacked up a good bit in articles.--Jlrobertson (talk) 20:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete without prejudice against rewrite per Zetawoof —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-26 05:35Z

Organizational Climate

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I cannot even figure out what this article is about. The article says that the term is hard to define and that's basically it! Read it yourself and see what I mean. —EdGl 23:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete The fact that its hard to define already tells me that the article is worthless. Tarret 23:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Completely rewrite, then keep. All this article appears to be saying, effectively, is that nobody agrees on what exactly "organizational climate" means. Chasing a few Google searches yields this paper, which cites a few sources in defining organizational climate as "the way in which organizational members perceive and characterize their environment in an attitudinal and value-based manner". In simple terms, the phrase appears to be a bit of management-speak for "how good people feel about their job". I have no experience in business management, so I can't really judge how important it is, or write a sensible article on the term. If nobody else can, though, then just stub the article to a definition. Zetawoof(ζ) 00:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe. Although that article needs a lot of work as well. Zetawoof(ζ) 01:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I haven't got the foggiest what this article is about or why anyone should care what it's about. Totally unnnecessary management speak.--
    Folantin 09:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete - the article as it stands is an essay. -- Whpq 17:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, unless the article is rewritten in an encyclopedic way, which will clarify its topic and definitions.--Yannismarou 20:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -
    Deletion! 15:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. (aeropagitica) 22:19, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hell Yeah

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This band hasn't released any music yet. Some of the members have some history, but it seems a bit premature to create an article about a band which may or may not ever release anything. Chasing sources appears to suggest that the source for this information is the band's Myspace (everything else appears to cite that!). While I understand that this has become a system of communication for many bands, it still seems a little shaky to base the entire article on that. Zetawoof(ζ) 23:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. (aeropagitica) 21:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Dream App

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Deletion nomination Contest without claim to encyclopedic notability. Obviously a contest like this has to generate publicity in order just to operate, so there was computer press coverage of the contest launch[76]. See also related afd for MacHeist Bwithh 23:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom.
    top 00:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete per nom. Josh Parris#: 00:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment moved from article talk page I am moving the following new user comment from the article talk page and registering the opinion as "keep": Bwithh 03:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep :I see no reason for full deletion of this article (other than spite). Instead, it should be reshaped into historical reference for those people who search for My Dream App (like I just did). Unless an article is offensive or only serving a self-promotion purpose, I really see no reason to delete it.
There is no reference for rating anything on it's "encyclopedic notability". The idea of such a term is near-rediculous. If an article provides informative reference, then it should be in an encyclopedia. End of discussion. Kevin B. 03:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Above comment by Kevin.B moved from talk page by Bwithh 03:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AGF Bwithh 03:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Comment, but this isn't an organization, but a contest, every contest gets written about somewhere which makes the contest i.e. the article not notable Fabhcún 20:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]
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The result was Delete. (aeropagitica) 21:10, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cards in Sonic Rivals

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Prod removed by anon saying "Does not violate any of Wikipedia's rules." which is actually extremely amusing to me. Anyway, this article fails

WP:NOT#IINFO in a big way. A really big way. Axem Titanium 23:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Delete. (aeropagitica) 20:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jim week

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Contested PROD; local festival with no indication in the article of notability. Leading to addition of the PROD (I inadvertantly had been the second to do so) including searching the archives of the Corvallis local newspaper and consulting the Corvallis, Oregon tourist information site rather than relying on a broad google search. The festival might be quite important to the participants, but there is not an indication of why it would be otherwise notable to a broader audience. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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