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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:39, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Paul

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Non-notable actor lacking in-depth, non-trivial,

WP:SECONDARY support. Some blogs, IMDB, and a lot of brief PR type support. reddogsix (talk) 23:42, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I have tried to edit the page with sources that align with Wikipedia's standards. Additionally, I did not use IMDB as a reference. Unfortunately, I was not able to find more articles from sources like Hollywood Reporter or Deadline that would help in the referencing process. If the Wiki staff deem this page as "non-trivial" like reddogsix states above, then, I will understand their decision as long as an explanation is provided. Elainasla (talk) 23:58, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:39, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Missing (band)

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Fails

WP:NBAND - no national hit, airplay, tours, big record contracts, significant media coverage. Rogermx (talk) 23:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy keep. per SK1 - I've made my points on NACTOR as well as the "LOOK AT WHERE THEY ARE NOW" sources so many times at this point I've got bored arguing with everyone over it, I obviously disagree but this AFD is only going to get pile-on Keeps so to save everyones time being wasted I'm closing as Speedy Keep

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Cloe and Holly Mackie

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Non notable actresses, No evidence of any notability, Fails NACTOR and GNG –Davey2010Talk 23:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dadi Balsara

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Fails

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The result was Withdrawn; mistaken nomination. A

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West Lafayette, Indiana

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unneeded content fork. John from Idegon (talk) 22:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This AfD is, IMO, completely without merit. It would be just as absurd to delete South Portland, Maine because Portland, Maine exists. -- RM 22:37, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Speedy Keep It's an incorporated city with near 50k population and the home to Purdue. I hope this is a mistaken nomination for something else; this seems very unusual for someone who seems to have plenty of experience here.
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O,ffs. I have no idea how this happened. Yeah it's a mistake. Trout me repeatedly. There was a newly created fork,

List of mayors of West Lafayette, Indiana, that it was my intention to nominate. Can anyone close this as "nominated in error"? Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 02:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I'm glad to hear that's all it was. Going by that...
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Gray Gallery

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Apparently not notable by our new and more stringent

our standards for businesses (and probably not by the old ones either). It carries on the routine business of a gallery, buying and selling works of art, and receives some routine coverage as a result. Some of those works are by famous artists, and thus attract media attention; but the purveyor does not inherit notability from the notability of the products purveyed – a car dealer is not notable because he sells cars of notable makes. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:10, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete.

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EnterMedia, Inc.

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Virtually no independent coverage, highly promotional and fails GNG. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:42, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I do not believe the article to be promotional at all. All sources are external with years of existence. I have made sure to edit the wording in a way that has no promotional value. I have tagged myself according to Wikipedia's policy.

dropbox (service) are competitors and there article is much more promotional. They even list features of the product. Entermedia Inc only mentions how it works not why you should buy it. Please let me know, where is the promotional material inserted before deleting? Please, I have spent hours upon hours on this to create it clean and un-promotional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcambron (talk • contribs) 15:38, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I understand and just used the other companies as an example. If we focus on just the content on Entermedia, Inc. you will see that there is criticism as well as one positive reception of the product, which is the only part of the article that seems promotional, if-that. Of course this can be deleted to comply with Wikipedia's terms and conditions. The references are external and have existed for years, nothing is new. Please help me understand and edit the article to make it encyclopedic. Thank you for your time and suggestions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcambron (talk • contribs) 15:18, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Micayle McKinney

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Does not appear notable, at best a peripheral player in the successes of others. The provided references aren't too convincing. --Bongwarrior (talk) 21:46, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

El Dur

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Nonexistent Somali "town". The one source cited says it's actually a hill. Satellite imagery doesn't show any trace of anybody living anywhere near the claimed coordinates, just empty desert. To be notable as a hill it would need sources which give significant information about the subject per

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Lawler

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Unsourced BLP, well there is an IMDB page. Says he started in the movie Mike Bassett: England Manager, but that film's extensive cast listing doesn't list him. Plays Football/Soccer, but not at a level high enough I would think reaches wikipedia notability. kelapstick(bainuu) 21:09, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Dream Team characters

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Just a laundry list of characters of a television show, no actual discussion about why this list might be notable (other than it being on television) completely unsourced. kelapstick(bainuu) 21:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete, we only need the real life cast of this show - not every fictional character, all of the blue links in this article have recently been redirected to the dream team show leaving this a meaningless list of never notable characters. Szzuk (talk) 15:21, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

E Matrix

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A model of paintball marker with no shown notability, looks like it's made by a company called AirTech which doesn't have an article to redirect to. Significant overcoverage of a minor topic in a niche industry. kelapstick(bainuu) 20:39, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete, per the A7 tag that was on the article before the AfD started. —C.Fred (talk) 20:44, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

James Jefferson Frazer

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No info about the person on the page.

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The result was speedy delete. A1, A7, A11, G2, or G3...the article was plainly inappropriate and didn't need to go through a full AfD. —C.Fred (talk) 20:46, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin sinclair

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Blatant hoax.

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That would strictly speaking be a speedy under csd:G3 BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}}) 20:37, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sungale Electronics Shenzhen Limited

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This article is about an electronics manufacturer without significant coverage in multiple indpendent

corporations. There is only one source provided to a top ten review site which seems to be review mill churning out reviews. I cannot find any significant coverage in my oneown searches. Whpq (talk) 20:04, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Additionally, moving article to Southwest Madagascar Coastal Current 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SMACC

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Fresh Ph.D dissertation of 2018 on Wikipedia. Classic original research in violation of core policy

WP:NOR. Non notable, unvetted student's assigment which didn't withstand the passage of time and rigor of top-level academic scrutiny. Promotional, and factually questionable. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment. This does not appear to be original research. The article cites a reputable scientific journal.[1] Mainstream science media like Live Science also cover the current under its plain-English name (Southwest Madagascar Coastal Current). The article is in poor condition, but the subject peer-reviewed research, not original research. I won't pass judgement whether it is notable yet. • Gene93k (talk) 00:32, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I agree this initially looks shaky, and current sourcing is insufficient to show coverage; but as noted above, that coverage exists ([2]), and what with publication in GeoRL, it's also out of the woods re factual verification. With a bit of cleaning up and adding three or four of the secondary coverage items, this should be fine. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:34, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't link to generalized vague "Search result". Find the " actual sources" so as to dissect their content and see how they support what's in the article. Linking to search result is vague and will yield result for anything, search engine finds matching strings not actual content. There may be broad concept which has not yet existed on Wikipedia, but this is pure Ph.D project by admission of the article and cited sites. Don't let googling or using Duck-Duckgo fool us. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:10, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
C'mon. You do have a certain amount of obligation here as well to actually look at linked material. Here's the first few instances in ready-to-click form, then: [3],[4],[5],[6],[7]. That's substantial secondary coverage based on the paper. - And I really don't understand this harping on about it being a PhD thesis. If a major scientific finding resulting in a widely-noted publication comes out of a PhD thesis, why is that a reason for denigration? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments: I might be inclined to !vote "keep" except there is zero notability for SMACC to be used as a title. Instead of an acronym why not Southwest Madagascar Coastal Current (SMACC) so people will know what it means? I will make this simple to all except
    Cajuns have known about long before 1908. By now everyone should be saying "That chicken is so umami" (savory). Wait! I am really confused now. Just when I learn we have five basic tastes I see evidence there are six, but umami is missing from that list so with "astringent" and "pungent" that would be seven. Maybe that choice is the wrong analogy for comparison That is off-topic but the proposed spelling would be better than the source that uses the spelling Southwest MAdagascar Coastal Current to clarify the acronym. A problem is that a search of this acronym returns the international not-for-profit multi-disciplinary Social Media and Critical Care conference (SMACC) probably because they didn't want to use three C'c.(SMACCC). Otr500 (talk) 02:47, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Yup, Moving to the full name would be indicated. I would already have done that except that it might screw up or complicate the AfD mechanism. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:28, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: per notability as Southwest Madagascar Coastal Current . Can be renamed after AFD unless a major consensus for a
    snow close
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  • Keep,
    WP:BEFORE wasn't carried out fully - this is an essay on a very notable newly found ocean current. Szzuk (talk) 07:20, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 01:13, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Vauss

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fails

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:41, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gershwyn Eustache Jnr

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Doesn't meet

WP:GNG. Doing well as an actor, but doesn't have the coverage or significant roles. Boleyn (talk) 18:57, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. The consensus is to keep and

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Supernatural beings in Slavic religion

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Poor article, but replacing it with a redirect is apparently contentious. I don't disagree with redirecting, and suggest

WP:NOTESSAY might apply. Lithopsian (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete.

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Kim Kimberling

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I debated nominating this for speedy deletion per

WP:BIO. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 11:59, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep -- There are sufficient sources. For instance,
    • Premarital class opens up with texting Tulsa World (OK) - January 17, 2009 -- article about how the guy uses texting in his marriage counseling classes.
    • Lessons from long marriage - Family counselor's book has advice for staying together Oklahoman, The (Oklahoma City, OK) - September 27, 2008 -- Review of one of his books.

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'7 Secrets to an Awesome Marriage' Author Kim Kimberling Says Managing Expectations Is Key to Marital Bliss]. Nom is mistaken here, a book-and-author interview does support notability. But the three stories - plus the fact that the press in Oklahoma quotes him as an expert voice on these issues - does not seem to quite add up to notability.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:05, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.

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Karl-Erivan Haub

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This article lacks notability. As per

WP: Person, Haub is not notable for anything other than this disappearance. As neither the man nor his disappearance is particularly high profile, this article fails notability standards, and should be deleted. FirefoxLSD (talk) 18:24, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Thank you - a decade on Wiki in native country, great find.
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An existing Wikipedia article in another language does not mean that the subject meets
WP:N. Different language versions have different criteria. --bonadea contributions talk 15:32, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep - the question here is one of interpretation of
    WP:BEFORE search yields only articles about his disappearance, which would make it look as if it is a case of BLP1E. However, I do not agree that it is a low-profile individual or disappearance (one of the BLP1E criteria) given that I find news articles about him not only in German and English, but also Swedish, Greek, French, and Polish (and that's just the first few pages of Ghits). The German-language Wikipedia article has one or maybe two sources that might serve to show notability at en.wiki as well. --bonadea contributions talk 15:32, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Mathematical constant Psi

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Article claiming discovery of a new mathematical constant without citing reliable and/or academic sources, failing

WP:HOAX was removed and followed with a message to my talk page. The author seems sincere in their claim that it isn't a hoax and I am extending them the benefit of the doubt in that regard. RA0808 talkcontribs 16:56, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Delete: standard case of pure OR, someone writing an article on something they spent time thinking about. Also, we already have
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The result was delete.

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Taiwanese independence referendum, 2019

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The referendum is only a proposal, not a definite event. This therefore fails

WP:CRYSTAL Daduxing (talk) 16:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy delete by User:Dlohcierekim. Primefac (talk) 16:28, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Naraly Rosas

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Subject does not meet

unconnected with the subject. Was a BLPProD. Deprodded by creator. (There was a source in a prior iteration). I had deleted per CSD before I saw it had been deprodded. --Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Have re speedied per this discussion and retagged again for csd.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:26, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cotton King

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insufficient evidence of notability . A previous speedy was declined. DGG ( talk ) 20:37, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Ahmed AlNeaimy

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Not a notable person. No reliable source discusses him significantly and the sources cited in the article are mostly "How-to" guides with a single mention of him. KingAndGod 14:56, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.

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Samoon Ahmad,MD

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associate professor at NYU fails NACADEMIC; BEFORE finds no publication count and Ahmad does not hold a named chair nor has he been elected a Fellow of a learned society - also fails GNG Chetsford (talk) 06:51, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Can I continue to work on this page to prove he is notable enough for a wiki page? I did quite a bit of research last night and came across more information. I believe the page should be given a chance beyond the introductory paragraph? (pls. advise if this is the correct way to address this discussion page - and or advice after my uploads).MegEng (talk) 00:44, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
MegEng - you're absolutely welcome to continue working on the page during an AfD. Chetsford (talk) 01:18, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I hope to participate in this discussion however due to the time constraints I am concentrating on developing the page, and learning A LOT about wiki guidelines as I go along... MegEng (talk) 07:40, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, MegEng. I noticed that your contributions to Wikipedia are mostly on this article. Are you the subject of the article, perhaps? Do you have any kind of relation to the subject? -The Gnome (talk) 20:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have absolutely no kind of relation to the subject. I am a new contributor to wikipedia with a lot of time on my hands (retired school teacher) and I have been using wikipedia pages for information for over 10 years. Thank-you for letting me clarify this.MegEng (talk) 14:21, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I ask that this page be re-reviewed and not deleted. I spent my free hours this past week in an attempt to highlight nobility and meet reference requirements, and uncovered some unique layers which I attempted to show without a promotional slant. I started this page because this doctor's biography showed some effort to better the world (e.g. beyond research, money and prestige). I understand the page still needs refinement which I can do with at a slower pace with help from other users and with advice from the Tea House (this is also my first and last page, as I want to turn to editing page. Thank-you for your consideration.MegEng (talk) 04:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)es).[reply]
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Szzuk- thank-you. I am addressing existing concerns for this page with advice offered from this discussion and other users/Tea House. I am slowing my pace somewhat to ensure I meet Wikipedia expectations.MegEng (talk) 05:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete without prejudice for lack of notability. If the article's creator wants to work on and improve the text, they can work on it and should be allowed to resubmit it at a later date. Meantime, Wikipedia is not a testing board; newcomers are advised to use the
    WP:DRAFTS. -The Gnome (talk) 20:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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As per my mention of no affiliation to subject (see above) and non-partial to this subject and did not knowingly do anything. If I had known this discussion is what waited my first attempt to contribute to Wikipedia I would never have started it. I would like the chance to improve it but at a slower pace so I can learn more. Thank-you for allowing this page to be worked on and all encouragement helps.MegEng (talk) 14:21, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:TEAHOUSE? Chetsford (talk) 16:19, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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WP:TEAHOUSE and work on the page within a sandbox, re-read the discussion related notes and advice i was given, and work at a slower pace (as well as edit some pages that i have come across that need some notices, etc.). Thank-you again.MegEng (talk) 05:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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WP:NACADEMIC criteria. Chetsford (talk) 05:16, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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It is not. See below. The claim for being a "distinguished fellow" is sourced to an irrelevant link! Let's not jump the gun. -The Gnome (talk) 07:30, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw nomination. A claim has been added to the article that the subject is a fellow of the American Psychiatric Association which might be a pass under criteria 3 of
    WP:NACADEMIC. I'm not familiar enough with the fellowship criteria of the APA to say for sure. Chetsford (talk) 05:16, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Chetsford - THANK-YOU. I hope it will be enough (and I am going to continue to work on the page to address concerns). I will keep watching the discussion and hope... MegEng (talk) 05:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hold your horses,
    WP:NACADEMIC is still lacking: "The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers)." Emphasis added. -The Gnome (talk) 07:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
The link to Amazon is to well respected Medical Textbook that he CO-AUTHORED and (as noted in the the reference link that I inserted on his page - under 'Index' is an in-depth profile that i found that is within the textbook). As well, here is a link indicating he was Chair at APA's 2008 Conference[2][dead link] Your argument appears slightly slanted? (just an observation from a new user), then again I am wondering why his Academia standing is being questioned with the remaining/sound references (not mentioned) - they must hold little or no strength. I will look for a stronger reference.MegEng (talk) 14:44, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I hope my insertion above does not sound disrespectful of your discussion (I am learning and will attempt not to take input personally). Thank-you.MegEng (talk) 15:15, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's alright. This happens many times when the discussion gets heated or it goes on for a long time; we think there's something "personal" involved. All I'm doing here is debating the 'notability of the article's subject. Nothing to do with his "respectability," etc. By the way, the link you gave about him chairing some APA conference is a dead end. -The Gnome (talk) 08:02, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There's nothing wrong with having an article deleted and then reinstated after sources proving notability are found and the text is up to scratch. You're fighting to have the article staying up in Wikipedia on the wrong grounds! Most of the arguments you're offering are irrelevant, e.g. that you're a newbie, he's a nice guy, he's well respected, etc. Try to focus, if I may offer some advice, on notability. Start by examining carefully the
notability criteria for academics. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 08:02, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The Gnome - thanks, I think I must have jumped to the wrong source. I'll withdraw my withdrawal pending confirmation from an independent source Ahmad is a Distinguished Fellow of the APA. Chetsford (talk) 18:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Chetsford and The Gnome - This links shows him with general APA membership only[3] - the website does not show a list of Distinguished Fellowships so I would hesitate how others acquire their references. His profile on the the textbook (following those of Kaplan & Saddock's profiles) clearly says 'Distinquished Fellowship" with APA. Author of a well recognizable and respected Text book (co-author, several editions as contributing editor, etc. over several years). His post-trauma award with the International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies is also an option. I have read the page on Notability several times, and again today, as you are aware the Criteria per profession varies: "Academics/professors meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable." So I will present arguments for these after some more studying.MegEng (talk) 05:04, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In other words, and to make a long story short, there is no independent confirmation of the subject being a "distinguished fellow of the APA." I'm removing the relevant claim from the BLP. -The Gnome (talk) 07:56, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, however, I added membership to APA (see reference) as a General Membership only. I am looking into the textbook further.MegEng (talk) 14:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No doubt I may be wrong about the subject's notability status. Please help me make up my mind by providing some support for the characterization of those textbooks as "major," so that criteria #1 or #4 of
WP:NACADEMIC are met. Sincere thanks in advance. -The Gnome (talk) 11:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I will attempt to locate a sound reference indicating Kaplan & Sadock is a "cornerstone text in the field of psychiatry and mental health." (quote publisher)MegEng (talk) 14:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Gnome- Reference for Kaplan & Sadock is a top ranked medical (psychiatry) text book[4] Also related: refer Harold Kaplan and References 18-22 on Samoon Ahmad's page.MegEng (talk) 02:41, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You keep citing that book (Sadock, Benjamin J.; Sadock, Virginia A. (2007). Kaplan and Sadock's Synopsis of Psychiatry. Behavioral Sciences/Clinical Psychiatry. USA: LWW.
ISBN 978-0781773270.) but we need primary evidence of the subject's supposed "distinguished fellowishp" in the APA
. Shouldn't this be evident from the APA's logs?
And, just to be clear, Kaplan is the book that is "a cornerstone text in the field of psychiatry and mental health," and not a book by Samoon Ahmad. So far, and in so many words, we have nothing of substance. -The Gnome (talk) 09:02, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You did not appear to be considering what DGG forwarded above "Coauthor of parts of major textbooks is enough to meet WP:Prof. AS NOTED HERE: "Kaplan & Sadock's pocket handbook of clinical psychiatry" (2018 - this latest book is CO-AUTHORED by Sammon Ahmad and his name is CLEARLY noted as one of the 3 authors) - see link[5] So why are you not making an effort to consider this? You appear fixated on the APA despite other criteria that the subject is able to fulfill.MegEng (talk) 14:56, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Confrontational attitude and personal attacks do not get contributors very far in Wikipedia, MegEng, rest assured of that. You may want to consider improving your manners.
On the substance of the dialogue: I refer you to the incisive commentary by DGG immediately below. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 08:21, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Gnome and DGG I want to apologize for my comments, I did not mean them to be combative or disrespectful. When I re-read them, I see now how they could be perceived as such and I am truly sorry. At the time, I was frustrated. Since I started this page, it has held a deletion notice, it got to me. That is no excuse. I forgot you both are volunteers as well, and helping with your time to ensure Wikipedia users follow guidelines. And it's needed. I respect both your advice and help. Please accept my apology and I will step back from the discussion. Sincerely, MegEng (talk) 01:29, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No harm done; we move on. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 07:13, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment Looking in more detail, authorship of a textbook or chapter is a little difficult to apply in clinical medicine, because almost all major textbooks are multi-authored, with individual authors contributing chapters in their fields. Even editor of such a book is sometimes difficult to determine, because here too there are usually several, and the most prominent name is the usually decreased famous author of the first edition. Additionally, Kaplan & Sadock's Pocket Handbook of Psychiatric Drug Treatment and Kaplan and Sadock's Concise Textbook of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry are not formal textbooks in the usual sense, but shorter books of the sort widely used for review and quick reference. Some such books can be really important or even famous, but my usual criteria will not determine this--they are almost never assigned as textbooks and rarely collected by libraries. I am no longer sure that authorship of a chapter in such a book would itself be sufficient to meet WP:PROF; but he is one of the principal current editors of the books, and that is probably sufficient. In addition to the book there are a few papers shown in Google Scholar--the most cited have 129 and 63 references--but there are almost no other papers and I don't think that by itself shows notability either. DGG ( talk ) 21:24, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok (it appears he was contributing editor for past 10+ years on the majority of the handbooks). An additional reference notes him as contributing-Author for a 2009 textbook "Kaplan & Sadock's concise textbook of child and adolescent psychiatry"[6] On a different note, does he not satisfy Criteria 2 as recipient of the "Frank Ochberg Award for Media and Trauma Study (ISTSS) which "recognizes significant contributions by clinicians and researchers on the relationship of media and trauma"?[7] which ties in with his research contributions.MegEng (talk) 03:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It6 is not an award of major significance. Even if the Society is a major national organization, it's highest award is its Lifetime Achievement Award, and there are other awards for "outstanding" achievements. This is just for "significant", [9]. Trying to make a case with material like this gives an impression of a possible overcommitment. A few of my first articles were deleted; try not to takes things like this as major blows, and keep going on others. DGG ( talk ) 08:46, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thank-you.MegEng (talk) 17:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Being the "principal current editor" of a layman's guide, instead of a major scientific book, is IMVHO stretching the claim to notability, though I fully respect your opinion to "keep" this article. -The Gnome (talk) 11:44, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Criteria for Fellowship to the APA
  2. ^ Chair 2008 Workshop - refer 'IW11.' on page[dead link]
  3. ^ of APA Dr. Samoon Ahmad
  4. ^ and Sadock's textbook ranking: Board Vitals
  5. ^ AUTHOR Dr. SAMOON AHMAD
  6. ^ & Sadock's concise textbook of child and adolescent psychiatry
  7. ^ Samoon Ahmad 2007 Frank Ochbery Award for Media & Trauma Study
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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 04:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Costa Del Mar

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fails WP:NCORP Lyndaship (talk) 15:42, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Another one: https://invisionmag.com/news/press-releases/3850-costa-launches-onecoast-campaign-for-disaster-relief.html Gidev the Dood(Talk) 18:05, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.

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Topaz Winters

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Lack of Notability, for a biography of a living person. As said before WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR and was re-created after having been deleted previously with no significant changes Zubin12 (talk) 14:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete A ref-bombed article on an 18-year old author who apparently has 8 mental disorders. I'm not checking all 95(!) references (including Facebook, Youtube, etc), if somebody feels there's any plausible importance please list at most 4 that you think demonstrate notability.
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Disagree on notability. Article appears similar in notability to Aaron Lee, Joshua Ip, Rain Chudori, Cyril Wong. See awards from CINE Golden Eagle Awards, Jane Goodall Institute, My Rode Reel Film Festival; publications by Cicada Magazine, Cosmonauts Avenue, Wildness; press references from The Straits Times, India-West, Wattpad; record holder with relation to a notable literary prize ("She is primarily known as the youngest Singaporean ever to be nominated for the Pushcart Prize and is a two-time nominee"); notability of "Half Mystic" section ("Half Mystic's staff, readers, contributors, and authors have been published and profiled in Best of the Net, Best American Poetry, Best New Poets, The Paris Review, Rolling Stone, NPR, The Huffington Post, The Chicago Tribune, and The New York Times, and are Pushcart Prize, MTV Video Music Awards, and Grammy nominees"); recognition for books ("poems for the sound of the sky before thunder debuted at the 2017 Singapore Writers Festival, while Heaven or This has been read by over 30,000 people"). All sources appear legitimate at least for those instances.

Article has unnecessary information which should be culled - mental disorder information, full list of publications and awards, etc. That the author is 18 years old and has mental disorders is irrelevant to this discussion. Not a reason to keep or delete the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lillian Paterson (talk • contribs) 06:57, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep In agreement with Lillian Paterson. All the references are excessive but the ones I checked were for real. Also Googled the author and found a wealth of legitimate articles on her work, in addition to her record holder status for a notable writing award and recognition by Singapore Writers Festival of her last book. This person has the notability to be on Wiki but the page needs to be trimmed down. Sweetmachine 12:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Draftify-Echo Power-en-wiki.~ Winged BladesGodric 15:27, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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reliable sources. ~ Winged BladesGodric 12:58, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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This RJ even lacks trivial coverage from independent reliable sources and therefore does not appear to meet basic GNG and. Steps were taken to locate sources WP:BEFORE this nomination, but were not successful. The article claims he has received a bunch of awards but I don't see any of them notable (al-least by WP standards). Saqib (talk) 12:52, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails

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  • Keep There is enough here to satisfy
    WP:NFOOTBALL, we don't always recognise playing in Europa League qualifying rounds as passing, but the coverage for that has swayed my argument for keep. Govvy (talk) 14:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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With one exception, all of the sources listed are either match reports, statistical profiles, or transfer announcements, all of which are routine sports coverage. The only source that differs is the article titled "Ante Will Find a Way", which was written by Bakmaz himself and is not independent of the subject. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:35, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to

Extreme Paintbrawl. Randykitty (talk) 12:50, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Notability is not inherited, and it doesn't meet

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The result was keep. Closed early per

WP:SNOW. At 26 to 8, the possibility of a "delete" consensus emerging from this is nil. In terms of strength of argument, the issue is whether this is a BLP1E case, but reasonable arguments are made on both sides and it's essentially a matter of editorial judgment. This is therefore not a situation where a closer could find a "delete" consensus based on strength of argument. Sandstein 14:56, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The subject was the pilot of Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 which had an engine failure and decompression. She followed procedure and landed the plane safely. That makes her a reliable employee, not a hero, and certainly not notable. Likewise, being "one of the first female fighter pilots in the United States Navy" is not notable as others preceded her. Any biography that includes pet chickens [since deleted] and Sunday school teaching is clearly struggling for relevance. WWGB (talk) 10:57, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Tammie Jo Bonnell instead of Tammie Jo Shults. Adding this section on top of the discussion to allow editors to search properly using the built-in linked search features. Using bold fonts for visibility. Bohbye (talk) 01:27, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep This AFD is premature. News of her background is still surfacing. Per Australian Broadcasting Company, International Business Times, One of the first US Navy female fighter pilots, instructor, Lt. Commander. Her background is still surfacing, but enough is coming forward to keep this article. — Maile (talk) 14:01, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The day the article is created, people are already rushing to delete it. [12] Capt. Tammie Jo (Bonnell ’83) Shults is one of the first female fighter pilots for the U.S. Navy. Searching for her as "Tammie Jo Shults", her name before marriage I assume, gets some results also, sorting through all of that now. I agree with others, more about her is coming out, no reason to rush to delete this. Many like myself will see her in the news and search Wikipedia for an article about her. Dream Focus 14:09, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Have you actually read those articles? They are just short fillers repeating the same old trivia goss, there is nothing new in them. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 14:11, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, how fortunate for Wikipedia that AFD Chesley Sullenberger resulted in a Keep. It was listed at AFD within hours of the article being started. — Maile (talk) 14:38, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, clearly notable, with articles about her in high-profile newspapers. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:10, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/Keep with
    Draft:Tammie Jo Shults I feel the article should be kept and merged with the article under development which uses her current legal name as used widely in the press. That article then can be moved into the main namespace. As for notability I think that while she is certainly now primarily notable for her actions on flight SWA 1380 in addition to that recognition of her as the first female naval aviator to fly the F/A-18 is independently notable and together make her article worth keeping. Phil (talk) 14:21, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I'm not particular about which article is kept just believe that A) the article is notable and warrants keeping and B) it is more appropriate to have her maiden name redirect to her current legal name and that receiving coverage than the other way around. While I think the Draft article could have been moved to main some time ago, this AfD itself is some evidence it wasn't the wrong decision to proceed with some deliberation. Wikipedia doesn't need to be in a rush. We just need to keep moving in the right direction :) Phil (talk) 14:54, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I find this comment insulting. I (and possibly most in the list of contributors above) did never consider her gender when I put forward my opinion on this AfD. As User:Maile66 noted above, the same discussion happened also for Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger's bio. By the way. I don't think that bringing an article into scrutiny regarding its notability is wrong; in fact this test makes an article stronger if it survives. Rentzepopoulos (talk) 15:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Rentzepopoulos Try not to let the sun go down on feeling insulted (meaning...don't hold on to it). Wikipedia is known for having a problem with gender bias, and it's been covered in the Signpost and numerous media. It's why Wikiproject Women in Red exists. I listed the Chesley Sullenberger AFD to illustrate a different issue. That nomination came from a drive-by IP. The AFD process is flawed in that way, that the nomination can be made by anyone, whether they know anything about the subject matter, or about how Wikipedia works, or even if they're over the age of 10. I'd prefer that AFD be a process that requires an article exist for a week or so, and let CSD cover the rest. But there are probably a lot of reasons why that doesn't exist, and this is not the place to debate the system, I guess. — Maile (talk) 15:31, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Rentzepopoulos The simple fact that articles related to females on wikipedia are so easily catogorised as not notable or low profile, that is insulting. This person is a pioneer in military aviation who faught hard for equality in an all male dominated military and was notable way before she was the Captain of flight 1380, and in her honor she will have equality here on wikipedia. Bohbye (talk) 19:32, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Doubtful that she fails
WP:GNG. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 14:55, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Now the article documents a Congressional resolution on her actions, and Navy Times source terms her "a Navy aviation pioneer". This is neither NOTNEWS nor TOOSOON material. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:10, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Since Tammie Jo Bonnell is already a re-direct (as mentioned above), if you pull up the Tammie Jo Shults article, and look for "What links here", this AFD template, as well as everything else linked to Tammie Jo Bonnell is already attached to the Tammie Jo Shults article. Also, this discussion is linked to at least one tracking tool at Wikimedia Labs, and I think moving/merging would pretty much not work with them. — Maile (talk) 00:31, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Can you tell the difference between the following?
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Just click the "News" link Bohbye (talk) 01:19, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Added a link on top of the page. Bohbye (talk) 01:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think we had two different thought lines, now that you have added those links. I believe you meant it should all be merged for the duration of this AFD. Am I correct in that? — Maile (talk) 13:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep When I first heard about her, I knew she'd pass GNG. She has a significant career before her amazing act of heroism. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:46, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Multiple accomplishments featured over the years; first female naval aviator to fly the F/A-18. Collective Contributions (talk) 02:57, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Her career and her accomplishments are emphasized in every article I've read related to the SW flight. She meets GNG. She's independently notable. .JSFarman (talk)
  • Comment If she passes GNG but doesn't pass ONEEVENT, then there should be no article, right? Was there an EVENT prior to this latest one that was really notable? No. So, if this latest event did not happen, would an article be justified? I think, no. So, she is really just notable for this one EVENT, and hence no article. Does that make sense? This should probably be a delete. Help me make up my mind because that is what I am thinking at the moment. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:25, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. There is no notable event before this plane accident. This plane accident makes one event. That means, per ONEEVENT, no article. Content in Southwest Airlines Flight 1380? Heck yes. Fill up a section. That's where it belongs, surely. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:35, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The subject passes policies such as
WP:BLP1E because her role in the event was a major one and she had detailed coverage prior to the event. See Lonehexagon's analysis above which gets this right. Andrew D. (talk) 08:01, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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You do make a pretty darn good point there, joe decker. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:15, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not trying to argue, but just for the record, "her part in the accident" (which wasn't a part in the accident since it was mechanically-based) was far from inflated. How she handled keeping the plane from disaster was drawn from her experience as a Naval Aviator piloting three different tailhook jets but also having been a Navy jet instructor in the Wing. She didn't just land the plane, the steps she took prior to landing kept the incident from being total tragedy. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 13:44, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Close but no cigar. She is a low-profile individual and likely to remain one. We don't have articles on pilots because they safely landed an aircraft with an engine out. She is a very capable pilot but comparing her to Chesley Sullenberger is ridiculous. The argument that she is notable in part because she got decorations from the military are weak. There are plenty of decorated ex-military pilots who have pulled off hairier landings, should we have articles on them. No. - Samf4u (talk) 14:39, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:GNG without the Southwest Airlines incident having occurred. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 14:43, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:37, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Srour

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Non-notable boxer does not meet

WP:NBOX and full of promotional hyperbole. PRehse (talk) 10:28, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete does not meet our very broad inclusion criteria for boxers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:42, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Doesn't meet any of the notability criteria for boxers. The most major result I could find for him was first round loss in the European junior boxing championships by a score of 21-6. His three pro victories have come against boxers with a combined total of zero wins and 17 losses. The coverage appears to be routine sports reporting and not enough to meet
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Coming the first in a Hong Kong pageant is not a claim of notability, fails

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Fails

WP:NSOFT. User:David Gerard previously PRODed it with the concern " No evidence of notability as a product. All but unreferenced, both references primary. Was tagged straight after creation, no improvement." SmartSE (talk) 08:49, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Right Bank Outfall Drain

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Nothing signifies its encyclopedia value. WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. Too much use of "WILL".. WP:NOTFUTURE applies here. Saqib (talk) 08:48, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:36, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cristian Sulser

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Has not received coverage in independent reliabl esources to satisfy

WP:BIO. SmartSE (talk) 07:58, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy delete.

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Arishfa Naz

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Seemingly the article appears on some notable artist but if you look at the references, all are dubious and unreliable ones. Some of the RS such as The Indian Express does not even mention the subject. Google Search doesn't produce any substantial information about the person so Can't see any significance. The page was previously created under a diff title at Child Artist Arishfa .. For what its worth, this page is apparently created by the subject herself (look at the username).. Fails to meet Wikipedia:ACTORBIO and basic GNG.. Saqib (talk) 07:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I added them, they are reliable sources, trusted especially in the field of TV shows. I learnt how to add citations, so added them myself Arishfa Naz 07:53, 19 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arishfa Naz (talk • contribs)
@Arishfa Naz: are you Arishfa Naz? --Saqib (talk) 07:56, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

please remove the afd template from my page i am not fake i have everything proper then why you want to delete my page?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arishfa Naz (talk • contribs) 08:05, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I am arishfa naz full Name arishfa naz khan, i am Child actress here are my references — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arishfa Naz (talk • contribs)

Are you here to vandalism? what is this? --Saqib (talk) 08:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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@GSS: Wow. I'm surprised to see this SPI's and old AfDs - Thank you for make us aware of these.. I would say someone ping an admin and get all the titles salted. --Saqib (talk) 11:42, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Saqib: and they are expert in hijacking too, see this and this-this from yesterday. Pinging Ivanvector if he's around to take care of this one too. GSS (talk|c|em) 12:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Sorry I cant find any consensus here without discarding policy based votes for one side over the other.

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Oskaloosa High School (Kansas)

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Subject fails

WP:ORG. Per rules, subject must have "significant coverage in independent, multiple, reliable, secondary sources," which it doesn't, except in typical listings. Some historical significance has been claimed, related to civil rights movement episode in the Oskaloosa area some decades ago, but apart from this, not much. The Gnome (talk) 07:43, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I'll just comment that the coverage mentioned above amounts to no more than mention of an incident involving a student of that school; it's not about the school itself. The school does exists; that much is not disputed and we need no proof of it. The only question put forth is whether or not the subject of the article meets the criteria of independent notability as set down by the rules. -The Gnome (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Seems the appropriate route to follow, if no consensus to delete is reached. -The Gnome (talk) 14:55, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Only if there isn't a keep consensus, and NC vs merge usually gets a relisting Nosebagbear (talk) 15:32, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep as
    WP:GNG and notability is not temporary. If this one is deleted, it will (like so many others) eventually be brought back when someone finds "the golden ticket" of articles printed online to show that "yes this is as good as any other high school article that we have kept."--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:20, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Ugh. Do not keep just because it is a high school. There needs to be potential to write some sort of article based on its history. There's mention of the school in some history records in Kansas, but still looking for newspaper articles or books that show significant coverage. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:26, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question According to the relevant Wikipedia article, there are some twenty six thousand public high-schools in the United States alone (2001 census). I'd guess there are at least as many in Europe, if not more, but let's not extend this beyond the US. If the default position is to allow articles about high schools to remain up, no matter what, are we to eventually have a Wikipedia article for each and every one of those twenty six thousand schools? -The Gnome (talk) 23:35, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't necessarily have an issue with that just because there is a high number of high schools. Wikipedia has articles on many things as well including Congressional and other legislative districts. I think high schools are as notable if not notable than these things, if not even more than school districts. If you're a student or a parent, you deal with school as an institution by itself. You don't consider yourself dealing with a branch of a school district. This is very different than eating at a franchise fast food chain or going to a branch of an international bank. When there's a school reunion, there's a school reunion, not a school district reunion. I acknowledge that some schools, just by virtue of status and history, will be more notable than others (such as a comprehensive high school with a 100 year old history versus some newly formed charter school with low enrollment, or a continuation school for troubled students). My point is that the notability should not be set at when the high school has gotten some kind of national news coverage. High schools generally don't get national news coverage unless it is for some kind of human interest stories, or some tragic events. Acnetj (talk) 00:43, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I understand and accept that Wikipedia is slanted towards education. And that, consequently, it takes a more lenient view of schools, as subjects of articles. I guess this means we'd be OK with each and every one of the primary and secondary educational institutions in the world having its own article in Wikipedia. And why not, after all? The bandwidth appears to be freely available. This is very interesting. -The Gnome (talk) 06:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am not suggesting that every school should have its own article. I just think that a comprehensive high school should not be considered for deletion for the "lack of notability," with a standard that many schools cannot consistently meet. I accept the current consensus on the topic. Acnetj (talk) 21:05, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
More comment And one of the things that make educational institution notable is the alumni, while a very interesting detail it is apart from the school's current status (or the status when that notable alumni were attending while not notable). I think it would be valuable that Wikipedia can include notable alumni on the school's page, but should not have the notability of the school be considered whether the school has notable alumni. Acnetj (talk) 00:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. What you're saying is essentially a suggestion for the content of articles about schools; it has nothing to do with notability as a criterion for inclusion. Again, the sole criterion appears to be the mere attribute of the subject, i.e. of being a school; not its notability at all. Which reaffirms the position that every school can and should have its own Wikipedia page. Those who do not already have one should be made aware of this and get up to speed. -The Gnome (talk) 06:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete there is no indepth indepent coverage that would lead to a show of notability. John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:12, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: It has been extremely rare (if not never) that an American public high school has been deemed non-notable. Sure, we delete the schools of brown-skinned people in countries with less online news content, where spammy articles without citation have been created, but that's a separate issue.--Milowent • hasspoken 18:35, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Schools are generally (overwhelmingly) found to be notable. We don't delete articles because they are incomplete. Arguments along the lines of "well if we gave every school a page..." are irrelevant. Wikipedia is not paper, there is not a finite number of pages. Egaoblai (talk) 22:42, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Therefore, in so many words, every American, public school does in fact merit a Wikipedia page ("infinite number of pages", etc) and no AfD should ever be raised again about an American, public school. I honestly did not know this. -The Gnome (talk) 06:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, if the school is verifiable (it can be shown to exist) then it will be notable too, as schools are reference points and instituions for communities. Egaoblai (talk) 11:26, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again, Egaoblai. You might want to follow or contribute to this discussion. And that goes for everyone else too. The issue is more significant than a single AfD. -The Gnome (talk) 12:38, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the historical and other sources in the article do provide evidence of notability, and is further confirmed by looking at the multiple sources in the search engines, please do the search appropriately, not quotes - there are sources over decades), see also, it's independently nationally ranked. Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in addition to the above arguments, another reason - morbid, but practical - is that the U.S. high schools is where school shootings tend to occur. See for example: Forest High School (Florida), the site of the latest shooting. (Fortunately, no one was killed.) In general, high schools are of sufficient public interest and should be kept. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:30, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I sure hope anyone who closes this as keep does so because someone has demonstrated significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject beyond routine local news stories (i.e.
    WP:AADD or otherwise have no basis in policy, e.g. "keep because we should keep high schools," "keep because it's useful," "keep because they're important," "keep because famous people went there", "keep because they're usually notable", or -- I don't even know how to classify this one -- "keep because someone might get shot there someday" [??]. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 00:44, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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For the record, I did not try to "
canvass" anyone. The discussion I started over at the Notability talk-page I consider, of course, far more important than a single AfD process, such as this one. Perhaps I was in error to start the general discussion before this AfD closed down. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 08:38, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I have no reason to suspect anything but good faith.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:50, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment So far, the voting is overwhelmingly in favor of keeping the article, running something like 8 to 1. Note, however, that the justifications provided for 7 out of the 8 "keep" votes are all along the same line, i.e. every high school is inherently notable and therefore worthy of an article:
  • Generally guidelines [such as WP:ORG and WP:NSCHOOL] are not that strict when it applies to high schools. A high school shouldn't be considered notable only when some incidents that attract national news coverage occur.
  • High school articles are typically kept.
  • High schools are generally kept at AfD.
  • Falling towards 'keep' is the right thing to do.
  • It has been extremely rare (if not never) that an American public high school has been deemed non-notable.
  • Schools are generally (overwhelmingly) found to be notable. We don't delete articles because they are incomplete. If the school is verifiable (it can be shown to exist) then it will be notable too.
  • In general, high schools are of sufficient public interest and should be kept.
I'm eagerly waiting not so much for the decision but for the justification the closing admin will provide. -The Gnome (talk) 08:38, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's a good point, I admit. High school articles that go to deletion discussions will sometimes end up at this point and on many levels I find agreement. I'll offer one more reason to keep: the policy
ignore all rules. Editors overwhelmingly and consistently support having articles on high schools. Consensus is a cruel mistress...--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:49, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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And I'm saying, Paul McDonald, let's make an honest woman out of consensus! If our preferred mistress is "keep all school articles," then we should get married to it officially, i.e. have an rule explicitly saying so. Why have this waste of time and space on AfDs about schools? Let's make it official. That's why I initiated the general discussion. -The Gnome (talk) 08:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Best of luck to you. I can't help but agree with your logic, but I'm not enthusiastic about personally takings on such a challenge. Until then, back to this article in question I retain my position for the reasons above..--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
thanks, this is good summary of the reasons we should keep this article. Egaoblai (talk) 17:36, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well explained. It is somewhat indicative of the community being slightly lazy since otherwise we'd encourage formally changing the notability policy on it.Nosebagbear (talk) 08:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I would have precisely zero problems with Wikipedia changing the policy and allowing every single school on mother Earth to be able to have, by default, its own, separate, Wikipedia page. (Such a policy would mandate placing exceptions to
WP:NOTDIRECTORY, as well, but that's trivial work.) But I'm very uncomfortable with a custom, i.e. a social consensus, nullifying a rule yet us doing nothing about the rule. That's just intellectual and social laziness, which rarely comes to anything good. -The Gnome (talk) 09:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I'm still trying to figure out how this will meet
WP:WITHIN when there's nothing to say about it other than that it appears as passing mentions in random articles. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 09:46, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I quoted verbatim all statements, precisely so that there'd be no "misstatements." On the substance of your input, longevity does not equal notability. -The Gnome (talk) 09:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't see it meeting GNG if that's what you're assuming. No articles have been added to the article or suggested to be added to the article that have demonstrated significant coverage. So again you're assuming it is inherently notable on the sole basis of being an American public high school that's over 100 years old. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 09:46, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
FloridaArmy are you sure it's not coverage for the Iowa high school of the same name? [20] [21] [22] So I am not sure what this "plenty of coverage" is. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Historical context and related refs analyzed:
That leaves the articles concerning the student journalist who was involved in controversial publishing / censored. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:35, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: After 9 years of dabbling at AfD, I can tell you this is never going to be deleted in a million years, so let's put this AfD out of its misery, we can spend our volunteer time much more productively elsewhere!--Milowent • hasspoken 12:45, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Jimmy Wales was very clear, we gotta keep on this for another 72 hours straight, no rest, no sleep. I envy y'all volunteers. -The Gnome (talk) 14:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What really would be helpful would be if someone with a newspapers.com subscription would comb through the archives for "The Oskaloosa Independent" (1860-2001) and "The Oskaloosa Times" (1891-1916). A free search (I can't access the content, though) shows me the Independent has 1,874 matches for "oskaloosa high school" and 7,585 matches for "high school".--Milowent • hasspoken 16:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Milowent, that would lead me to believe that significant coverage should be available more than just passing sports and random non-notable student/alumni mentions, which may still be like 99% of the articles listed. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Local-media reports is most of what seems to be available for this unit; could be a criterion for future school-notability guidelines, though. -The Gnome (talk) 21:38, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:36, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

CTGP Revolution

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NO evidence of notability. Only one primary source. Slatersteven (talk) 07:39, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.

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George Saghir

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As per this reference, the subject is a Syrian economist based in New York but Google search doesn't produce any substantial information about the person so I Can't see any significance here.

Subject does not appear to meet GNG and lacks non-trivial coverage from independent reliable sources. Saqib (talk) 07:38, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep The subject, who is senior in age, started advising the Syrian government one year before the Arab Spring, and is known for his pro-Syrian government position. Absolutely of significance
    WP:N to anyone observing Syria - including the governments of the US, Great Britain and France. Would recommend AfD removed immediately, and post of link in Arabic or Russian to his profile on Wikipedia if available. Simone2049 (talk) 05:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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You need to provide evidence that this person is adviser to the Syrian government. And by the way do we have entry on this person in Arabic or Russian WP's ? I can't locate it. --Saqib (talk) 07:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You need to take a crash course in definite and indefinite articles in English. And also contact your network to search for the requested articles.Simone2049 (talk) 05:30, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. MBisanz talk 04:35, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Abir Sinha

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The article claims he won some title from FIDE, but I'm unable to verify it through RS therefore verification is failed. and I'm not sure if this Arena Grandmaster Title is enough to establish the WP:N.. Provided references in the infobox are not RS. Other than this, subject does not appear to meet GNG and lacks non-trivial coverage from independent reliable sources. Steps were taken to locate sources WP:BEFORE this nomination, but were not successful, unfortunately. Saqib (talk) 07:33, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:35, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Zamir Cobb

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Never appeared in any NFL games and fails GNG.

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The result was keep.

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Grandfather Paradox (Doctor Who)

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Non-notable fictional character who fails

WP:GNG, better fit for the Dr Who Wiki than here. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:30, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Keep - The info from AHistory seems to be enough to pass the GNG, although I agree that the other sources provided aren't brilliant, nor have I been able to find any others from a quick Google. --Killer Moff (talk) 15:13, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Merge selectively to

Grandfather Paradox, there's a workable reference here and the parent article is rather stuffy. Szzuk (talk) 17:03, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Weak keep - I'm not a Dr. Who fan, and know nothing about this character, but I skimmed the article and it appears to be well written, and while the sourcing is light, it's sourced using a Dr. Who guidebook. It is also acceptably integrated with links to other Dr. Who articles, so I don't see a compelling reason to delete it. I also don't think a merge and redirect to

Grandfather Paradox will work, since the articles are quite different, but perhaps a line or two could also go there. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:01, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete.

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Lakes in the Timmins Area

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List, flagged as unreferenced since July 2011 without improvement, of almost entirely non-notable lakes in and around a single city. Just three of the lakes here currently have articles to link to, and two of those are up for AFD -- so this amounts to a list of just one notable lake and 20 non-notable ones, in a city where the article claims the existence of four thousand lakes inside the city limits -- but that number's not credible absent

verifiability in a reliable source, and not all of the lakes listed here are in Timmins instead of just being in the broader Timmins area. So it's not a list that there's any particular value in maintaining -- I literally can't find any evidence of a list like this existing for any other city of Timmins' modest size anywhere else on earth. Bearcat (talk) 03:37, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:34, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Pennisi

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No WP:RS to establish WP:ARTIST. Vanispam article for a non notable painter, with little to know legitimate exhibitions. The UrbanRiche Gallery doesn't seem to exist, and Chelsea International Fine Art Competition is a vanity competition run by Agora Gallery a known Vanity Galllery Theredproject (talk) 16:46, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:55, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Walking on water

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Almost entirely un-encyclopedic and a criticism of religion that has nothing to do with the article. Almost everything here is already adequately covered in other articles; lacks focus; generally poor writing style. Deletion has been requested in talk page. Chimneyrock (talk) 02:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Papakomeka Lake

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Completely unreferenced article about a small lake, whose only evident claim of notability under

WP:GEOLAND is that it exists. Every lake on earth is not automatically presumed notable just because it exists, however -- GEOLAND states that the notability of a lake is conditional on the ability to provide information beyond just statistics and coordinates alone, but there's no evidence of that here. Bearcat (talk) 02:28, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Miriam Smith (mayor)

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There is a general consensus that articles on suburban mayors aren't notable, and that this incredibly short stub still claimed she was mayor (four years after her resignation) until a couple of hours ago suggests non-notability. The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:26, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wingate Chronicles

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Series of books lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. Meatsgains(talk) 02:12, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:33, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Kevin Navayne

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per Mikepals:Having an IMDB page does not meet notability requirements, and the rest of the article lacks sources. 01:53, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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The result was keep.

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The Iclif Leadership and Governance Centre

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Despite its good intentions and founding principles, there is nothing here, or in searches, that suggest that this organisation is notable. Fails

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  • Weak Keep There's a fair supply of general sources, with ICLIF showing up quite a lot in regional news, as well as some more specifically related to their CEO and thus ICLIF's "ideology" (I've excluded those, but he writes in Forbes frequently). They are of variable, but decent, quality. They have covered some areas tagged as unsupported fairly well while leaving others absent. I'm unsure where they leave the article as a whole in terms of
    WP:GNG Nosebagbear (talk) 15:46, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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"Edge Weekly", "The Star", "Hindu Business Line", Strategy + Business (most directly relevant to ICLIF CEO/ideology, less about structure), "Sunday Observer". Nosebagbear (talk)
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BTW, while notability is not inherited, I did see that Jimmy Wales spoke at one of their events. It was in the info I just culled. Here's a video FYI. [[41]]TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:49, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 04:33, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pietro Boselli

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Looks like a fitness model with 15 minutes of fame. Fails to pass GNG Zigzig20s (talk) 10:16, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Changing vote to Weak keep after avalanche of hits, when search is combined. Celebrity is celebrity. -The Gnome (talk) 07:18, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep mildly passes
    WP:GNG per indepth Guardian piece [42] and other sources. if he has 15 mins of fame why does searching google news bring up articles from this month? Also this means nothing by itself, but he has 11 different language articles on wikidata, normally a sign of international interest. GuzzyG (talk) 10:59, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Why? Because he is sooo handsome. :-) The Gnome (talk) 07:00, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.

(non-admin closure) Szzuk (talk) 16:47, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Tama Hochbaum

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Created by COI, all the content comes from them (a gallery connected to this artist). Cannot find significant independent coverage in reliable sources, ergo fails GNG. Rayman60 (talk) 00:22, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Ping Megalibrarygirl as she has access to better databases.104.163.140.141 (talk) 01:11, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll help out soon. It's been a crazy day! :P Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:43, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I came up pretty empty with library databases, other than two reproductions of her work. Is there a suitable way to include those? (HOCHBAUM, TAMA. "Nicholas Brothers II, 2015." Eleven Eleven, no. 19, Nov. 2015, p. 28; Hochbaum, Tama. "Friends School Tree [Detail] [Art Reproduction]." Modern Painters, vol. 22, no. 1, Apr. 2010, p. 6. -Kenirwin/(talk) 16:02, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Coolabahapple (talk) 06:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stephan Fritsch

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Created by now blocked COI, a gallery connected to the artist. All the content has come from them. Very little independent or significant coverage of this artist. Rayman60 (talk) 00:17, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Update: The collections look real, so notability is met. I have added a few more sources. If someone did a German/Austrian search that would help. A more extensive CV can be found here, which could be helpful for the long Austrian gallery/museum names (e.g. "Bayerische Staatsgemäldesammlung, München"). Also, he is deceased as of 2014. 104.163.140.141 (talk) 01:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As per the above, it seems I was wrong and it meets WP:Artist so AfD can be closed. And thanks for working on the article to improve. Nom was due to me knowing little about the intricacies of the art world so I was going on GNG and other markers however this has proven to be erroneous. Rayman60 (talk) 00:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alpha Theta Beta

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Non-notable local sorority and has no independent sources (apart from a reference to a charity which does not discuss the sorority in question). Had redirected it to parent university but article creator reverted redirection. IronGargoyle (talk) 00:11, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect was reverted because the university has no mention of the sorority whatsoever. The Sorority is the foundation of greek life at the university and has a rich history. There are other local organizations listed in the fraternities and sororities list with even more vague pages than this one. I am a college student writing this article so it is challenging to find sources but they exist, and the page was deleted mere hours after creation even though I had plans of working on it further. (JillianLaManna (talk) 02:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC))[reply]

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  • Delete breach of
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  • Comment - @
    WP:OTHER means that their lack of quality doesn't mean your's get in - it's irritating, but otherwise we'd have to delete in a very straight order. Regarding deletion - if you want you can create things in your sandbox (button at top-right), if you haven't already made one. Then you can make it passable before submitting. There are a couple of sources that mention ATB, but I think they might not be the sorority, and in any case are on student newspapers, which won't be considered reliable. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Sandstein 07:31, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Christopher Parker

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No indication of

WP:GNG notability that is evident by in-depth coverage of the topic in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The article is about an actor who does not appear to have had any very notable roles. —BarrelProof (talk) 02:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply
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