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The result was merge to Mass mortality event. -- Scott Burley (talk) 02:57, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2010–11 midwinter animal mass death events

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The article deals with clearly unrelated events. Every source is from 2011 except for one from 1 January 2012. This was clearly a (social?) media-fostered non-event. Its notability has not held up. Srnec (talk) 23:46, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge any notable and well sourced material to mass mortality event. See Aflockalypse Now and Recent shifts in the occurrence, cause, and magnitude of animal mass mortality events for context. This standalone article, however, does not meet WP:GNG. --mikeu talk 13:33, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:07, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of deadliest plants to humans

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I doubt that Gizmodo is an authoritative source for this list. Wikipedia should not regurgitate dubious press articles.

Gizmodo provides zero refs for the core assertion it makes in its list - that these are the deadliest plants. So are these the deadliest plants to humans, worldwide? Or was this just a way of the writer earning $50? Who knows.

Where is, for instance, Atropa belladonna, "one of the most toxic plants found in the Eastern Hemisphere"? Why are these ten listed in preference to any of the 466 listed at Category:Poisonous plants?

Clearly, I'm not arguing that these are not extremely poisonous plants. I am arguing that the basic premise of the list is flawed; that these are not the deadliest plants; and so their presentation as if they were, on the basis of a one-off popular press article, is (or should be) the antithesis of wikipedia.

What we do know is that we're seeking to be an authoritative encyclopedia, not a reprinter of any old crap found on the internet. Tagishsimon (talk) 23:35, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:41, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Er Beshi Bhalobasha Jay Na

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Non-notable film. The article cites an announcement that, "Er Beshi Bhalobasha Jay Na is being made under the banner of Kibria Films" by

Zakir Hossain Raju, and a pair of press release regurgitations on the day of its release. After that there's almost nothing. Searches of the usual Google types, including by Bengali script name, found it mentioned very briefly a couple of times as Nijhum Rubina's debut film.[1][2] This does not add up to significant coverage in independent sources. Worldbruce (talk) 23:18, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:41, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nocturnal (web series)

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A long defunct web-series that has questionable notability. The brief article in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is seemingly the only item of note that talks about it, and it is very limited coverage and far from an actual review. I have been unable to find any other reliable sources from searches, though I admit that searches are a bit difficult due to the rather generic title of the show. Unless other people have more luck in finding more reliable sources that discuss or review the show in a substantial way, I don't see this passing the

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:09, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Coburn

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Coverage here seems awfully thin, brief mentions, non-reliable sources, primary sources, most links are actually dead or changed to something completely different. I poked around and didn't find anything better.

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Thanks for doing that. I checked them out, one is confirmation that he was on a panel on a show on Lifetime, the other is an excerpt from his book, neither does much so far as notability goes. ]

I'm Ian Coburn and I want this page deleted. I am having an awfully tough time getting that to happen. Please delete. If you want to verify my identity, email me at (Redacted). I don't communicate on Wikipedia, so I don't have the knowledge to email users, etc. I need this page about me gone because it is out of date and creating a hardship with me generating business to, you know, feed my family, etc. Every time I make edits deleting info about myself, people keep undoing it. Please realize this simply continues to make this page a problem for me. I ask that it please be deleted. Thank you. (I was fine with updating it, only, but any time I or my company made an update, again, it was undone. This is a serious matter; I need the community to please realize this and not simply revert/undo changes and leave this page about me on Wikipedia. Thank you again.) Also, I don't write in html, so not sure how this will appear. Also, I am not the same person described below as booking comedy tours in Europe for Live Nation Entertainment and have no idea how to let E.ME. Gregory know this. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.*

  • If Mr. Coburn's identity can be verified, I support his request. He may be sufficiently notable buy our standards to support an article, but, unlike, say, Henry Gee, who made similar request, Coburn is not so well known that we should feel obliged to ignore his wishes and keep the page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:31, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I already let him know how to verify his identity but it seems he's ignoring that advice because ...email is hard... or something? I also ran into the same issue when searching, lots of false positives. The issue here, aside from notability, is that Mr. Coburn has apprently moved on to a new career, looks like sales seminars or something, and as such there is no newer coverage of his more recent activities. He wants the article updated to reflect that, but he and others acting on his behalf have not proffered sources to support these updates, so they always get reverted. I've also tried to explain that but apparently it has fallen on deaf ears. I'm still inclined to delete in spite of all that rather than because of it. ]
  • Delete on grounds of notability. Plus, the man seems to have moved away from comedy since the page last major change,[3] and lacking willing editors I doubt we'll be seeing it getting updated to reflect this, making it both irrelevant and potentially ]
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The result was soft delete.

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UGI Group

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Not to be confused with UGI Corporation, a notable energy distributor in the US and Europe; UGI Group, a group of insurance companies in Jamaica; or the chemistry research group of Ivar Ugi.

The article cites the conglomerate's now defunct website, and has a few external links to routine business coverage of its subsidiaries. Searches of the usual Google types, EBSCO, Gale, JSTOR, and ProQuest found no coverage for this UGI Group, and for its subsidiaries only a notice of liquidation for Wowtel in the UK. Does not meet

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:12, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Motherwell

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Subject does not meet

WP:NHOCKEY. Fails criteria #2 by 56 games (144 games played in AHL inc. playoffs, 200 minimum required) for notability. Per research of delete nominations of past members of All-NCAA All-Tournament team, subject does not meet #5 either. Tay87 (talk) 19:59, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:40, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barzakh Ke Phool

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The situation is somewhat similar to

WP:CSD#A9: there is no claim of importance for this book of poetry and we can't redirect to the article on the author since that article (Javaid Anwar) was deleted once as A7, once at AfD (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Javaid Anwar) once as G4, and ultimately salted. Pichpich (talk) 19:58, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:15, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mustang Ironheart

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The main character of a seemingly completely non-notable series of comics and films. There are no sources being used in the article aside from IMDB and the issues of the comics themselves. Searching for sources came up with nothing substantial that could be used as references. I also tried to look into the comics' publisher "Rare Underground Comics", and found that this series is the only thing listed under their credits, which leads me to suspect that these books were self-published. As far as I can tell, this character/comic series does not come close to meeting the requirements of the

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:15, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pierre-Luc Faubert

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Subject does not meet

WP:NHOCKEY. Played only four AHL games and mostly played in the ECHL, which does not grant notability unless preeminent honours are achieved. Tay87 (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:16, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Embach

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Subject does not meet

WP:NHOCKEY. Mostly played in ECHL which does not grant notability unless preeminent honours are achieved. Tay87 (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:40, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ki Prem Dekhaila

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Non-notable 2013 film. The article cites one brief professional review, and a passing mention in regard to two cast members. Searches of the usual Google types, including by Bengali script name, found trivial mentions in lists of films showings, credit listings, and the like, but only one other piece of "critical analysis".[4] The second review consists of a plot summary, one-line reactions from three audience members, and the anonymous reviewer's opinion that "it will be fairly acceptable to the viewer" and "who would not like to see the picture if it is free?" (They didn't have to pay for their ticket.) Does not meet the letter or spirit of

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Morbid: A Love Story

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An indie film that does not appear to meet the criteria of

WP:NFILM. There are no reliable sources being used as references for the article. The external links are largely defunct, and those that are still active are largely just reports on the press release for the film, with the same standard synopsis and cast list. I have only managed to find one actual review for this film, here, and I am not even sure if the site it is on counts as a reliable source. Regardless, it, alone, is not sufficient to establish notability. There was a former AFD for this film way back in 2008, which resulted in a keep, however in the 11 years since, there has been no real improvements to its sources, and it does not appear that there are any reliable sources out there to rectify this issue. Rorshacma (talk) 18:56, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:24, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hand lensing

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A non-notable film production technique. Google search reveals fewer than 1,000 relevant hits (an unrelated NASA quote about galaxies gooses the number) and few reliable sources. Article appears to have been created by a user with ties to the subject.

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  • Delete At best too soon. Currently this is clearly the inventor (or someone closely related) trying to play up the significance of their invention (if it is one). --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:10, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:GNG and WP:MADEUP. I don't see the single reference going to an article about the subject - it just redirects to the home page. I don't see any independent sources. --mikeu talk
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Block Club Chicago

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Doesn't seem notable, self-sourced for its founders and it had a Kickstarter campaign -- doesn't make it notable. JesseRafe (talk) 18:42, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

On top of which, seems to be a COI page made by one of its employees, given the user name of the page creator: https://blockclubchicago.org/author/margaret-tazioli/ JesseRafe (talk) 18:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arvind Parashar

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Non notable author. The edits by the article creator gives off the impression of paid editing. All the references are from associated sources. The only one I found from a

reliable sources is this - [5] and it seems like a paid piece. Jupitus Smart 18:25, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Comment Hi, article is not made under paid contributions! I know and understand the policy of paid contributions, as I have mentioned in the talk page, Even I didn't find any Reliable Sources on Arvind thats the reason I did not cited not even deccon chornical the one you mentioned above. if this article is paid contribution I would have added more personal information which I think I have not added. I recently purchased one of his book and curiosity got me search author and i found very less information, so I did some digging and thought to give a shot on article. I dont mind getting it deleted. but I would like to add my comment as KEEP Vixhere (talk) 18:49, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete due to a lack of coverage in reliable, independent sources (and with it, notability) that is made apparent by searching. The subject seems interesting, but unfortunately cannot have an encyclopedia article if very few or none of its sources are of any real quality. ]


Press releases and from non notable publications.
WP:NOTINHERITED is what you probably were looking to read. Jupitus Smart 04:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Hi, I take my comments back! even now I also think after reading last comment, as no book reviews are there though it could be

WP:TOOSOON and I didn't noticed that! though I vote for Delete.Vixhere (talk) 18:45, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy delete. G4 Tone 19:35, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Forum Sujana

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Deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Forum Sujana earlier. Was a case of paid editing by a syndicate. Probably resurrected by another a new user who might be a member of the same syndicate. Just another run of the mill mall. Jupitus Smart 18:19, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 18:36, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sophal Ear

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The article has previously been through an AFD process and did not survive (2008). It was later re-created in 2015, but has yet to meet notability criteria listed under

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  • Keep. Ear achieved prominence as a critic of the many pro-Khmer Rouge Western academics and apologists for the Khmer Rouge. That the academics often did not deign to respond to him is perhaps indicative of the quality of his critique, the likely wish of academics to avoid highlighting their previous opinions, and probably a soupcon of snobbery that a mere undergraduate (as he was at the time) had the audacity to take on his betters. More recently, Ear has been a critic of the programs of the international community in Cambodia. Wikipedia has articles on many of the academic deniers and apologists for the KR. It seems only fair to keep an article about a critic - especially when said critic was right and they were wrong. Not to mention that his resume since his undergraduate years is impressive.Smallchief (talk) 20:45, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I agree with Smallchief. Also feel there needs to be a different standard to deal with articles concerning people whose birth countries lost the mass of their "reliable sources" when libraries, universities and newspapers were deliberately burned to erase culture. Jacqke (talk) 01:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. Comment. The article requires some cleanup and better sourcing, and partially comes across as somewhat promotional (including the largely unsourced "honors and awards" section), but he appears to be sufficiently notable under GNG. --Tataral (talk) 02:52, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails
    WP:NBLP. At least three of the sources are the subject's own writing on other outlets, one excessively used source is from their own website. As for the argument made by Jacqke on "birth countries losing reliable sources", he was ten when he left the country, what could he have possibly done then that was reported in the media and then burned down? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:24, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Um … The "notability" issue has been fully covered by others, and that, in and of itself, is sufficient. Talked at 2017 SEAAS Conference, TED participant, author (meets GNG for that as well), cited by Australian Broadcasting Company as an expert, member of local town council, cited by the "Independent" in the UK, BBC, and hordes of others. Cited by NYT in a number of articles, and writer of an op-ed in the NYT as well. Really want 50 cites from me as well? Cogent reason number one: The person is cited a massive number of times by recognized reliable sources. Should be more than enough. Collect (talk) 13:56, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the response, ]
At this point, the clear ]
Collect is right. Ear has written three books and about 20 academic articles. His book "Aid Dependence in Cambodia" has 125 citations and his academic work as a whole has 1,114 citations. Academia, in my understanding, religiously counts citations as a measurement of significance.
More important, I believe is his work on the Khmer Rouge and its Western academic apologists. I would urge you to search "Sophal Ear Cambodia Chomsky" to see the impact his work attacking Khmer Rouge (KR) apologists has had. His scholarship on genocide by the KR in Cambodia has been compared (usually favorably) with that of
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
has framed the debate about climate change, Ear framed the debate on a lesser, but still important, debate about the errors and prejudices of Western academics about the Khmer Rouge.
Compare, for example, the influence of Ear with Malcolm Caldwell, a British academic primarily notable for being a KR cheerleader and then becoming a murder victim of that same KR. Nobody, to my knowledge has proposed that Caldwell's wikipedia article be deleted because he is not notable. Ear is certainly far more important than Caldwell. (Full disclosure: i contributed to the Caldwell article and possibly (I don't recall) to the Ear article.) Smallchief (talk) 12:42, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the response,
WP:ACADEMIC criteria #1 and #7? — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 15:12, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Yes, but also notable as an opinion maker, a commentator. People with similar credentials not based totally on academia such as Gareth Porter and Nate Thayer have wikipedia articles in good standing. So, yes, Ear has academic credentials bolstered by his prominence as a commentator on Cambodia.Smallchief (talk) 09:34, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep (in accordance with

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TG Mohandas

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There is no in-depth coverage in reliable sources that are indepndent of the subject is fails ]
  • Keep : TG Mohandas is the head of intellectual wing in Kerala of the current ruling party of India, Bharatheeya Janatha Party. He has contributed heavily as an RTI activist and as a litigator, to protect the rights of Hindus and their places of worship, called temples in the state of Kerala. Hindus are being subjected to institutional harassment by the leftist government and he is also being harassed in social media and internet for fighting legally against this. This harassment is evident even in the above edits which is against the community standards of Wikipedia.
   1. Fight against mismanagement in temple administration[1] 
   2. Fight against mismanagement in temple[2]
   3. Fight against forceful acquisition of temple by Devaswom[3]
   4. Fight against unlawful activities.[4]
   5. Sabarimala Petition[5]

References

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Being the head of a national parties state wing's intellectual wing doesn't make him notable. There is no in-depth coverage in reliable sources that are indepndent of the subject and no evidence he played a major role in politics or election campaigning .Thus Delete.]
They are not just passing mentions, either he, his public interest litigation or social comments are the subject. He is not a politician to play a major role in politics or election campaigning, no one has made such an argument here.137.97.89.175 (talk) 12:29, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Being an Hindu nationalist is not an automatic ]

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  • I would like to make a plea to people to concentrate on whether Mohandes is the subject of significant coverage in independent reliable sources, per the ]

I think this article should be retained according to the General notability guidelines..!!

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:19, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Viviya Santh

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Non notable actress. Has supposedly played the lead role in a non notable production and a small role in a decent movie. No references on the said person from reliable sources to let this article stay Jupitus Smart 17:19, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and salt. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:38, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yuvasri Lakshmi

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Non-notable actress, minor unnamed roles just like the last one and not a single source included is reliable - all wikis, user generated, wikipedia itself or completely unreliable (indiaglitz, etc...) half of the credits listed here aren't even on her imdb profile and even if they were, are irrelevant. So pretty much per the last AFd. Praxidicae (talk) 15:59, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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(edit conflict)Gee, ya think? It's almost as if we've had this exact discussion before. Praxidicae (talk) 16:17, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've had worse. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:19, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, because Wikipedia was founded on bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy.Praxidicae (talk) 16:22, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and salt Horrible sources and repeated recreation are not a good mix. Trillfendi (talk) 16:12, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Must not Delete I have a lot of references regarding the article and its importance. Even if u delete it by now it will be recreated when she is even more famous because she has been acting in much films continuously. The roles she made aren't petty roles but they are the major supporting roles of the films. If u had watched the film u can understand it very easily because she had a film completely revolving around her, then the other characters she did travels throughout the film. In Tamil cinema, many films has unnamed characters which had almost equal importance that of the major role. She is just 19 by now, and has been signed for many films such as Appa 2 and the remakes of Appa, the malayalam version of it, then many more.--]

https://getlink.pro/collection?term=yuvasri%20lakshmi%20interview--

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) 16:34, 29 April 2019 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yuvasri_Lakshmi. She has also acted in serials and programs in SUN TV. Many SUN TV stars have their articles for their supporting roles in serials and if u want to delete thi s article as she is a supporting child actress, then u must delete many articles of Tamil cinema stars.--]

I hope you realize that if an administrator salts the page as the salt template on it says, the page cannot and will not be able to be recreated, even if she did become more famous. Trillfendi (talk) 17:21, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Small addendum: not be able to be recreated by a non-admin. Salting just means only an admin can recreate it. ...and sometimes they do, as is obvious from the drama currently unfolding at ANI/ARBCOM. ]
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- additional Comment - the impassioned pleas not to delete this article suggest that there is an element of promotion involved, which qualifies it for deletion under ]
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The result was merge to Solidarity (United States). -- Scott Burley (talk) 02:48, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fourth International Caucus

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Article has no citations. Organization does not appear to have

significant, non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. Toa Nidhiki05 15:25, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:21, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Internationalism (US)

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Article has not citations and only links to the organization’s website. It has no elected officials and no electoral history. Organization does not appear to have

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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 17:01, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

News and Letters Committees

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Article primarily sources to the organization’s website and newspaper, and the few citations that don’t (7 and 8) aren’t actually about the party, but individual members. Organization does not appear to have

significant, non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. Toa Nidhiki05 15:22, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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It is on then nominator to do research BEFORE nominating. As has been shown in a number of these discussions, sources are easily available. That is why a number of them have been kept. AFD is not for improving Wikipedia. It is for deciding whether sources exist or not. It doesn't matter if the sources are on the page or not. They must simply exist.--TM 11:32, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
1) Most of the articles I’ve nominated have been deleted or redirected.
2) The fact a few sources exist that say an organization exists does not establish
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  • Note that all sources I can find describe this ORG as the personal project of Raya Dunayevskaya, the org's founder and head until her death. Her correspondence describes local branches, but if there are sources that tell us things like the org's size, number of member, or impact I am not seeing them. It appears to be just another of the endless tiny groups Trotskyites regularly splinter into. I have no clue what the issue was that caused this tiny faction to form in 1953, or what caused it to split up in 2008 (according to unsourced text on Dunayevskaya's page. the lack of such info is an indicator of this outfit's lack of notability.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:36, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I added a couple of references and extended the text to note the editorial role of Charles Denby. I agree with Bakazak's comments about much of the current content tending to set out their current proposition rather than provide an encyclopaedic view, but I see this as a matter for improvement rather than redirecting to a section of the Raya Dunayevskaya article. While she was a prime mover in this group, others involved have included their observer at the 1961 Socialisme ou Barbarie conference [9]), Eugene Gogol (also see a brief discussion of the group's influence into Europe in Jon Beasley-Murray's review in Radical Philosophy 123, p41-42), Denby as I've mentioned, and in Glasgow Harry McShane, whose engagement with the group is described on pages 253-4 of his autobiography. Overall, I think there is enough to justify a distinct article. AllyD (talk) 09:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I genuinely appreciate your efforts, but having reviewed the sources you've linked, I don't see them as ]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 16:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Socialist Workers Organization (U.S.)

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Article has no citations other than to the organization’s website and has no elected officials or electoral history. Toa Nidhiki05 15:20, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete article has existed since 2004 and has never had any non PRIMARY sources. Delete as PROMO for the apparently non-notable Socialist Viewpoint magazine. (If anyone manages to source this page, feel free to ping me to reconsider,) but gBook searches for the mag [10] and the org [11] show nothing, while gNews search [12] shows hits on other orgs with the same name.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:42, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Rod Holt where it’s worth a mention, but not independently notable. Mccapra (talk) 19:04, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • User:Mccapra, Could you expand on that suggestion? I see that according to the page, Holdt was one of the 6 founders of this org. But are there sources? Or a particular reason for the merge, aside from the fact that Holt has a page and the other 5 co-founders do not?E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:33, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Without a lot of time and contextual knowledge it’s hard to research these small Trotskyist factions because they’re an alphabetti spaghetti of overlapping names with mergers, splits, etc. and it would take more bandwidth than I have to unravel one from another. I’m pretty sure from what I can find that this one isn’t independently notable but my view is that there is encyclopaedic value in having a fairly complete picture of Fourth International movements, and if we knock them all out for lack of mainstream coverage we’ll leave a significant hole. So yes, rather than lose it altogether I’d prefer to attach it to something we”re keeping, and given that Holt is notable and was a founder, that seemed an appropriate place for a mention. Mccapra (talk) 05:11, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - not notable under
    WP:NGO, which requires that "The scope of their activities is national or international in scale." - this is a minor splinter group, even the webiste for their magazine, Socialist Viewpoint, says, "our numbers are insufficient for this crucial project of party building." - Epinoia (talk) 15:50, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Article has no citations other than to the party’s website, no elected officials, and no electoral history. Does not seem to be notable. Toa Nidhiki05 15:18, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 16:57, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Ezzou

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Non-notable club promoter. The 11 references in the article at the time of nomination are the same press release from different sources. Lacks coverage in

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  • Hi I am sorry if I had make any mistake. I added some more references as you needed. And I will add more, just need a little more time. Can you be kind enough and remove the template from the page. I am doing the best to keep up with the Wikipedia policy just need your support. Please give me 3-5 days for adding more references if needed and I kindly request you to please also remove AFD template from the article. Thank:) (Ramniram (talk) 05:15, 30 April 2019 (UTC))[reply]
This discussion runs for 7 days. That is enough time for you to establish notability. At the end of the 7 days discussion period, an administrator will make a decision based on the discussion. I'll note that you have added 3 references. Of these, two do not have an actual article about Omar Ezzou, and the third is yet another copy of the same press release that was in the 11 original references. Press releases are worth nothing in establishing notability. Twelve times zero is still zero. What is needed is significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources. -- Whpq (talk) 12:43, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Thanks Everybody for supporting this article especially Tamsier In addition I have added more references to this article and will keep adding more. This reference is from the one of the popular website. Here is it's link https://thriveglobal.com/stories/omar-ezzou-the-celebrity-club-promoter/ I hope for the best. (Ramniram (talk) 13:16, 3 May 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Do you have any Moroccan newspaper articles about this guy which are not available online? If you have a minimum of three Moroccan newspaper articles about this guy (as long as you provide the details I've requested above) then I will have no problem voting keep. The problem I'm having is that, the sources you have cited are press releases which we do not accept as reliable sources on Wikipedia. Although MENAFN, Hope Tribune and Salem News are reliable sources, they categorised their article about this guy as "Press releases" if you read down the bottom, or copied word for word practically the same text (which either originated from their site or from others) and provided the contact details about this guy which reliable newspaper reporting on a notable person do not generally do, thus making it clear to me that their reporting is a press release even if they do not categorise it as such. Surely if this guy is the golden boy of Morocco, then Moroccan newspapers would have reported on him. As I have stated above, I am also aware of Google's issues when it comes to indexing African newspapers online. Therefore, if you can cite at least 3 Moroccan newspaper articles about this guy which are not yet available online - with the details requested, I would have no problem voting keep. I do not doubt for one minute that this guy exist. The problem we are having is significant coverage from independent and reliable sources. The coverage must be independent of this guy, not press releases.Tamsier (talk) 15:19, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The "new" source is now already gone, most probably because it was not an article but just spam. I saw it before it was removed and it was just a rehashed version of the press release that was badly rewritten by somebody with a poor command of the English language. See for yourself at this archived version. The "article" was written by somebody with a profile that states "I am a freelancer writer, blogger and seo expert."(emphasis added). A rehashed press release shows up on May 3 created by an "seo expert" and found by the article creator the same day? Nothing fishy going on here... - Whpq (talk) 14:40, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 16:55, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anodite

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Non-notable topic with a sole, unreliable, source lovkal (talk) 11:23, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fandom.com is a

WP:USERGENERATED source. lovkal (talk) 11:25, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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A Google search yields only fan-created content.
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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 16:49, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Constituency election results in the 1929 United Kingdom general election

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I asked for guidance about this at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics_of_the_United_Kingdom#Excessive_length_of_article_Constituency_election_results_in_the_1929_United_Kingdom_general_election.

This article is overlong, and would ordinarily be recommended for splitting. However I think this article is not necessarily acceptable to keep. The summary election results are on the main general election articles, the constituency results have their own individual articles. This looks like an incomplete/abandoned attempt to create a series of summary articles. As such I think this, and any like it, should be deleted because it is collating and duplicating information already available. It is also noted that any corrections to individual constituency articles would not happen on this article, making this incomplete and inconsistent. doktorb wordsdeeds 10:03, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because they have the same problem; incomplete, unnecessary, too long:

Constituency election results in the 1923 United Kingdom general election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Keep: Category:Results of United Kingdom general elections by parliamentary constituency lists links to pages for eight elections including this one and others also listed here. The list includes some of the more recent UK elections. There may be others linked to main UK general election pages. The practice of providing an all on one page presentation seems to have been replicated with other countries elections. The fact that not all UK elections currently have these pages should not be used as a reason to delete those that do. A good number of editors have contributed to this and other similar articles and it appears to have been updated in line with changes made elsewhere.The page has been viewed 159 times in the past 30 days which suggests it has value to readers. These are all good reasons to keep. Graemp (talk) 12:59, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
QUESTION. If these articles are kept, what's the point of having individual constituency articles? doktorb wordsdeeds 13:07, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Duplicates the information in the individual constituency articles and (e.g.) List of MPs elected in the 1929 United Kingdom general election. The latter serves the function of highlighting the winner in each constituency for the election in question, and readers can click through from there to the constituencies to get the full results. Also, these articles are far too large at 400-450kb. Number 57 21:41, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete As above, an unnecessary duplication increasing the work involved in making corrections - or more likely introduce the probability of inconsistencies where (what should be) exactly the same tabular information is changed on the constituency pages. The articles are large and unwieldy and most likely used as a click-through to the constituency or biographical pages anyhow. MapReader (talk) 19:38, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per unnecessary but would not be opposed to article of a similar nature being created and presenting the information in a different way. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:41, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, it's no different in content from many 20th century articles about local authority elections, which repeat the individual ward election information in one p[lace. And I would say General Elections are unarguably more notable. We're hardly awash with election articles prior to the internet age. It's hardly going to require much maintenance because it's a fixed event and the facts won't change. Sionk (talk) 20:37, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment @Sionk: I think this is a touch misleading or misunderstood. The local authority election articles would be oversized were they showing each and every result from across the country. They are displayed (in some cases; Lancashire County Council results most recently are summarised and I think I'll be doing the same for Preston this year) as the results for each council as separate articles, whilst these nominated pages show results for the entire country. The facts might not change unless, say, a typo fixed in Somewhere South UK Parliament constituency is not fixed here. doktorb wordsdeeds 09:41, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you're misunderstanding me. Where we have local authority election pages with, say, 70 ward results we're not planning to delete them because they're too long, or because they repeat some stuff which is also available elsewhere in another format. It seems a tenuous reason to raise this General Election list article at AfD. Sionk (talk) 11:59, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the problem with article length, and potential for problems over inconsistency with constituency articles, could be fixed by creating a separate article just for each results table, and transcluding it to the articles on both the general election and the individual constituency. In that way any amendment or correction to the table would automatically show in both.Opera hat (talk) 01:58, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as stated above the reasons are tenuous and a more wide ranging discussion should take place before a final decision. It’s our responsibility as editors to update properly Macs15 (talk) 12:58, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but merge all results into a common table showing the result for each party per constituency (and Wikilink to the constituency article); this should resolve the article length issue. --RaviC (talk) 01:30, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support table solution. Not sure whether this is really delete or keep, but these results are better expressed in a table. Hopefully a table that is much better created than the tables for more recent elections. Onetwothreeip (talk) 01:41, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep I don't understand the nomination rationale. I can't see anything wrong with the article. If I was a user researching that election I would value having all the results in one place for me to consult, rather than only the overall UK result, or only each individual constituency. So what if the same information can be found elsewhere? And the article isn't 'too long', it's exactly the right length to cover every constituency in the country. Mccapra (talk) 11:48, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in principle. The results summaries on the general election articles do not answer questions like "which Conservative MP had the smallest majority? Which seats went uncontested by the Liberals? How many independent candidates kept their deposits?" That's what these more detailed results articles should be for. However, the information here is pretty useless in its current format and, as others have suggested, would be far better in the form of a combined, sortable table. Opera hat (talk) 12:30, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Certainly relevant to have the results for the election in one place rather than spread across the constituency articles (which aren't the same for every election either). I would encourage consolidating the results into tables like at 1928 United States House of Representatives elections rather than as countless election boxes. Reywas92Talk 07:24, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the article is very long and tricky to maintain, so ways to summarise the information would be good. But having more detail than the general election articles can offer, and collating it in a way which the constituency articles don't, has many uses. Warofdreams talk 11:18, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. There are many !votes going in all directions, but at least it is clear that there is no consensus to delete. The other alternatives (draftify, merge elsewhere) can be discussed on the article's talk page. Should no improvement of the article or a meaningful discussion about alternatives be forthcoming, then there is no prejudice to a renomination after a reasonable amount of time. Randykitty (talk) 16:04, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of edible invasive species

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Unreferenced and arbitrary list of plants and animals. An invasive species is a species that is not native to a specific location. This article doesnt recognise that fundamental fact.Rathfelder (talk) 10:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - I think this article can be improved, but I think it does not warrant deletion. In the absence of better judging criteria for lists (haven't been able to source one for botanical species) the list seems fairly useful in a general basis and is obviously not promoting anything. Since it's educational and can serve as an excellent point of research for those interested in the subject, I think it should stay. Skirts89 11:19, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Too vague for an article. Invasive to which location? Edible as in tasty or non-dangerous? --Michig (talk) 11:36, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - article not based on any sources, indeed it says it was "listified" from a category, which of course had been constructed piecemeal and at random. The narrow taxonomic focus - higher plants and familiar animals - says volumes about the
    WP:ORish method of selection of these species. This listicle is a disgrace to Wikipedia - we need to be getting rid of the whole idea of the uncited list ("oh, it's all right, it's got bluelinks") and basing lists (if any) on comprehensive, reliable sources. It's been policy for years now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:07, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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It's not like there is a lack of sources, we just need to add them. Eating Aliens: One Man's Adventures Hunting Invasive Animal Species -- GreenC 15:33, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. When the linked article says it is invasive and edible and cites these facts, then having it on this list uncited is not a big problem to me. I remind you that policy does not require every sentence on a page to be cited, only certain classes of fact.
    WP:LISTVERIFY explicitly says It is generally presumed that obviously appropriate material, such as the inclusion of Apple in the List of fruits, does not require an inline citation. Items verified in their own article count as "obviously appropriate". SpinningSpark 21:27, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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WP:LISTVERIFY explicitly says: statements should be sourced where they appear. There is nothing obvious about anything on this list. Rathfelder (talk) 11:07, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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If there is anything useful in the list it should be in Invasive species. It makes no sense as a separate article. Species which are seen as invasive in one context are obviously native in another.Rathfelder (talk) 11:04, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and reopen the previously deleted
    Edible invasive species (itself currently a redirect) by lifting the section content it redirects to at Invasive_species#Invasivorism. This would then contain some more detail specific to the edible-nature of each listed item, rather than just a list. This list article to me serves no purpose, and I don't understand why it was lifted from a category in the first place. Bungle (talkcontribs) 11:51, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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As it stands it is positively misleading. The only actual text states: It is illegal to propagate many of these species. It fails to notice that legality is jurisdictional. There is nothing illegal about the propagation of Brown trout where I live, for example, nor is there any suggestion in that article that it is illegal anywhere.Rathfelder (talk) 12:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rathfelder: You need not reply to individual comments, particularly ones like my own which to a certain extent, takes on your points and concurs with your view on removal of the article. I suggested reopening the category as there would then not be any erroneous prose associated with it, though of course the matter of the listed species being "invasive" is still subjective. I think my proposal satisfies those who wish to retain some manner of list (as it was in the category), whilst allowing for some form of new article with an alternate structure and purpose, utilising existing prose elsewhere for the foundation. Bungle (talkcontribs) 12:27, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm quite happy with your proposal. I didnt mean to suggest I wasnt.Rathfelder (talk) 15:03, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment: The article's lede was changed by Andrew D. to limit scope to cases where eating a species has been proposed or used as a population control measure. That's a better defined list, but scope would need to be defined to include or exclude use of invasive species as pet meat, fodder, etc., and if kept then such an article would need a rename to reflect the article's restricted scope. Even with reduced scope, the list is likely to include such exotics as cat, dog, cattle, pig, boar, deer, rabbit, hare, goat, horse, donkey, camel, rats, mice, squirrel, fox, possum... ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 03:12, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • The nomination cannot be withdrawn once there is support for deletion. However, I definitely agree with your conclusion that it needs work regardless of the outcome (unless, of course, it is ultimately deleted). ––]
  • Deletion struck -- shifting to Draftify so that those who want to pivot can:
  • a. agree on the scope of what the article is to pivot to; and
  • b. decide on a suitable name that properly reflects this changed scope; and
  • c. adequately source it
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The result was keep. The clear overwhelming consensus here is keep.

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Apothecary to the Household

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WP:V). The articles are all unsourced, or sourced only sporadically to primary sources, such as notices of the appointment of an individual officeholder. The situation is the same as that of the articles deleted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Page of the Presence. Sandstein 09:16, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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My vote was 'per Andrew D. and Dream Focus'.... Mosaicberry (talkcontribs) 19:48, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Personal Protection Officer is completely unsourced, and may be a generic term rather than the title of an office. I would not object to deleting that on its own merits, or lack thereof, but this bundled AfD is overbroad. Choess (talk) 02:08, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy keep. Sources found, withdrawing nomination

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Rage of Mages II: Necromancer

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Does not meet

WP:GNG. Online I was able to find walkthroughs and database entries, but no coverage in reliable sources. The Russian counterpart to this article is extremely detailed but unsourced and mostly about in-game content. signed, Rosguill talk 07:05, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:20, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aamar Mayer Shapath

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No coverage that I can see in reliable sources. Does not meet

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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 07:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yudai Miyamoto

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The footballer never played in a fully professional league, thereby failing

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Miyamoto played for Balzan F.C. and Sanglea Athletic F.C., the teams from the Maltese Premier League. The player has appearances during matches of Balzan F.C. and Sanglea Athletic F.C. Apart from that, the player meets criteria of general notifiability

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The winner of the Maltese Premier League qualifies to UEFA Champions League. Does this fact change the review of the league as professional (regardless of Wikipedia listing)? If not, I respect the decision about delation.Iplegal (talk) 16:55, 29 April 2019 (UTC).[reply]

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The result was keep. And as an aside, I'd like to compliment Cunard for the vastly improved layout of their comment. Randykitty (talk) 15:50, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MikroTik

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Per the last AFD, still fails

WP:CORPDEPTH. It's still lacking in the required sources and I see absolutely no change from the last AFD a year ago. Praxidicae (talk) 21:36, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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How can the article be exactly the same or have absolutely no change if it contains information about vulnerability found in 2018 while the article was deleted in 2017? That makes no sense. It is also worth mentioning that since the article deletion in 2017 the company got bigger and more notable. The number of employees literally doubled: from 140 workers in 2017 to 280 today. The New York Times mentioned MikroTik among 3 others most significant network equipment manufacturers vulnerable to the specific software vulnerability. Cisco Talos Intelligence Group did include MikroTik's network equipment into their vulnerabilities research. Sergeal (talk) 22:09, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete; this should be a G4 as it is substantially the same as the version that was deleted at the last AfD.
    Draft:MikroTik? It's clearly exactly the same. ♠PMC(talk) 21:43, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • @Premeditated Chaos:: In the same edit summary where I stated it was different from 2008 version I also state I could not find the 2017 one ("I can not fin the 20177" has two typos, sorry for that, but it is still readable I guess). The deletion logs showed the 2008 version but not the fate of the 2017 one, which I now see was moved without a redirect to Draft:. I searched and looked at two user drafts by RasputinAXP and Vikasbswami both different, though none seemed to be the 2017 version looking at the dates. Yes, I forgot to look at Draft:. What if I did?. I am not sure, but I would probably do nothing. It is not the same, but it also has no large change, I would likely let it go to be assessed by the next admin looking at it.- Nabla (talk) 00:09, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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How can the article be exactly the same or have absolutely no change if it contains information about vulnerability found in 2018 while the article was deleted in 2017? That makes no sense. It is also worth mentioning that since the article deletion in 2017 the company got bigger and more notable. The number of employees literally doubled: from 140 workers in 2017 to 280 today. The New York Times mentioned MikroTik among 3 others most significant network equipment manufacturers vulnerable to the specific software vulnerability. Cisco Talos Intelligence Group did include MikroTik's network equipment into their vulnerabilities research. Sergeal (talk) 22:09, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
See passing mention. Praxidicae (talk) 22:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My message contained several arguments, and only one is addressed so far. Additionally this article exists in ~21 other languages with a very similar content. Even while the requirements for the articles in other languages may differ, the amount of existing articles dedicated to the MikroTik indirectly indicates the notability of the subject. Sergeal (talk) 22:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Would you like to provide actual
independent reliable sources or keep going in circles? Praxidicae (talk) 22:31, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Even though these are not reliable source, the article exists in 22 other Wikipedias, in very diverse languages, including large Wikipedias with high quality standards. I checked history of some and they have been created at different times by different users, and have existed for years. The content between them is sometimes simmilar, but there are other variations as well. It seems to be result of good faith translations of various users over time, who apparently thought this is significant enought to be worth the effort. According to edit summaries, the article here also was translated from Russian, that's why it is similar to 2017 version. This is the opposite of what you'd see, if it was a minor company trying to promote itself ~~Xil (talk) 07:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone can write a book now. How does the book you're referring to meet ]
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WP:CORPDEPTH
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Could you please provide sources? Praxidicae (talk) 00:03, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The references are already listed in the article...? Hornpipe2 (talk) 00:22, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I meant references which would show notability. None of those are in the article. Praxidicae (talk) 01:51, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm - I'm very familiar with MikroTik. The company is similar to Ubiquiti. I'm not sure that the article establishes notability in it's current state - tho I do believe that the company is likely notable. SQLQuery me! 02:14, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't speedy. In case you haven't seen, G4 is for reposts, not expanded pages. Passing mentions are still additional content: if they have new content, they're not reposts. Don't game the system by trying to get pages deleted when they patently don't qualify: I see that you've done this lots of times, and if you keep it up, a block is coming. I've not looked at the article, so no opinion about anything else. Nyttend (talk) 03:06, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I don't get why it was closed with 'delete' last time - as I allready said then it's a large company on national level, it was clearly demonstrated that there are sources supporting this. Yet when all is said and done three people appear out of nowhere on the same day and say that there are no independent sources, despite the opposite having been demonstrated, and that's enough to get the article deleted. Also arguments were strange - a promotional ("fancruft") article that not only is neutral in tone, but also lists things that would reflect negatively on the company? There are multiple articles on the company in different national level media, yet those are not proof enough, because someone can refer to an essay that actually just points out that search engine hits are not enough? And now the argument appears to be that the article hasn't been edited enough since then... I've seen worse articles kept with way less reason, I am usually not into conspiracies, but it seems borderline suspicious. ~~Xil (talk) 04:58, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Re suspicious: To see the hypocracy of this trolling, all you have to do is look at the flimsical articles written, or supported, and proudly announced, by the OP of this attempt. Some have barely a paragraph. Kbrose (talk) 17:57, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I added information to the article about this company being large on national level, source is one of the national newspapers, the article also has a photograph showing company receiving award from government minister as 'best exporter' at an event where largest taxpayers in the country were awarded. ~~Xil (talk) 07:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Even a cursory search returns nearly 300 entries on the DIENA newspaper site (one of the major Latvian newspapers), including the company's involvement in accelerating 5G roll-out with LMT, the first and largest mobile provider in Latvia. The company certainly meets
    WP:CORPDEPTH for article inclusion. There was no reason to delete last time. And if "it hasn't been edited recently" were a real criterion, countless articles would be deleted. There's controversy as well, when their servers installed in Brazil were hacked in 2018 (reported in anglo-centric media, since that appears to be a tacit requirement). It is precisely this sort of we-don't-care-about-it treatment of significant entities in small countries (that is, therefore insignificant) that keeps editors away from contributing to WP. The motion to delete this article is entirely arbitrary. VєсrumЬаTALK 23:31, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep Google News shows plenty of RS referring to Mikrotik. Especially in the light of the recent exploits, keeping this page would help users better secure their routers. Dandv 23:54, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 15:42, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Outhred

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Another old page (from 2005!) of someone with questionable notability. He has had only one role-though he did win a award for it making him seem like he might be notable (not sure how notable the award though is, it's not like any of the Oscars/Emmy/Grammy/Globe nominations/wins where they are notable just for being nominated) If not delete, a redirect to the film. Wgolf (talk) 02:09, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Are you sure the award is "a well-known and significant award or honor". I had never heard of it until this article. So far I cannot find a single secondary reliable source referring to the subject winning this award? If you can point me in the direction of such I may consider reveiwing my !vote. Aoziwe (talk) 12:23, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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User:Aoziwe. Independent article from 1994 verifying Outhred's AFI win: Cinema Papers No. 101, October 1994, Film Reviews, Hammers Over the Anvil review by Fincina Hopgood beginning on page 66. Page 68, halfway down the middle column states "Outhred won the A.F.I Young Actor's award for his performance as Alan." [23]. Cinema Papers No. 89 also verifies it [24]. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:03, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is also a useful resource for finding things. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:16, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 15:38, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Blagg

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Non-notable individual; biography not pass the muster at

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Within the broad concept of notability are various sub-guidelines, including the general notability guideline. There we have a specific definition requiring that others not connected with the subject take note and that they do so by offering their own secondary thoughts in reliable sources. Under this definition, anything interviewees say about themselves or their own work is both primary and non-independent. If it's primary and non-independent, our guidelines make clear that it does not contribute to notability.
An independent interviewer represents the "world at large" giving attention to the subject, and as such, interviews as a whole contribute to the basic concept of notability. The material provided to the interview by the interviewer and the publication is secondary. The material provided by the interviewee may be primary, if the interviewee is speaking about his own life, or may be secondary, if the interviewee is recognized as an expert on the subject being reported.
I think it is interesting that you ignored what's written in
WP:SIGCOV that the subject need not be the main topic of the sources given, that there are not passing mentions, and then simply assert that it is not SIGCOV (therefore what you said is contrary to what is given in SIGCOV). I don't see anything useful you said apart from trying to dismiss anything that contradict your claim, for example dismissing an award winning work (a work that wins a major award is by its nature significant). I can also see the source perfectly fine, which is about him as a social media guru. Please don't dismiss sources you can't see for whatever reason. They are valid sources that show that the subject has received attention by the wider world. Hzh (talk) 19:57, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Too promotional for draft, it would be deleted as

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Does not meet

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    WP:INHERITORG, "An organization is not notable merely because a notable person or event was associated with it" and the famous bands listed are not that famous - Epinoia (talk) 03:20, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:18, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May Day Music Festival

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Unsourced for nearly a decade ElKevbo (talk) 03:45, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:17, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Patricia Allison

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A draft that was more or less copied and pasted into mainspace. I tried to find sources and found very few with insignificant mentions.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:36, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment - I have included more references. In particular I found her profile on her agent's page that lists a number of Theatre plays.

https://www.eamonnbedford.com/patriciaallison/. She will also be part of the next series of Sex Education on Netflix. I'll add the refs from FOARP - thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pierre Hugot (talkcontribs) 14:10, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Beyond the article’s poor quality, being a character on a nascent Netflix series doesn’t create automatic notability. And the sources given don’t do it justice. Trillfendi (talk) 16:45, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Soft delete -
    WP:ENTERTAINER says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." - three roles in ten years may not meet "significant roles in multiple notable" productions - but she may become notable as her career takes off and be refunded - Epinoia (talk) 02:37, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shahin Zartosht

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Subject fails

WP:GNG. This purely promotional effort is the end result of letting anyone edit and then tolerating their promotion. This subject has already been refused at AfC more than once and was successfully PROD'd and since re-created. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:45, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete.

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Nonprofit director lacking significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources. The sources are local and speak more to the world of the nonprofit than the director. Citrivescence (talk) 01:22, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.

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WP:BEFORE failed to bring up anything of note. Kirbanzo (userpage - talk - contribs) 01:15, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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There's also a reference in the Baltimore Sun which I can't access. Tacyarg (talk) 10:33, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Scott Burley (talk) 00:35, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fame (element)

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The article is an unsourced collection of trivia, with a misleading disambiguator to boot. Relevant guidelines include

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