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Hi, I have recently been editing Romani people in the Czech Republic, which covers partly the history of Romani people in the area generally, but also WWII, the Communist era, and modern Czech Rep. Obviously for the vast majority of this time the Czech Republic didn't exist. There is also an article about Romani people in Czechoslovakia, which covers just the First Republic and Communist Era (no mention of WWII). There is substantial overlap between these two articles, in fact almost the whole text of the Czechoslovakia one is contained within the Czech Rep article. In theory there is clearly enough to write about to write full and separate articles about Romani in modern day CzRep and historically in the region, but both the articles are currently kind of short, so I think it makes sense to present all the information in one article. But what should that article be called? If the article incorporates info about modern day Czech Rep I feel the article shouldn't be just Czechoslovakia, cos that's inaccurate, but it shouldn't be just Czech Rep either because that ignores Slovakia. Or is it better to split the information entirely into pre-dissolution and post-dissolution? I'm sure this isn't the first time this issue has come up, so could someone point me in the direction of previous discussions on this matter which arrived at some consensus? Or share your thoughts on this specific case? Many thanks Jdcooper (talk) 12:20, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Jdcooper:. I would say the best solution would be to develop & improve the article Romani people in Czechoslovakia, including also the period of World War II. Roma people in Czechoslovakia inhabited both now-sovereign countries, so it would be better to keep the information in one article, rather than copy pasting the same info into the Romani people in the Czech Republic and Romani people in Slovakia articles. Once done, I think a short link or mention to the Romani people in Czechoslovakia article from the Romani people in the Czech Republic and Romani people in Slovakia articles would do the trick. -- Darwinek (talk) 17:02, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Yup, that's basically what I've done I think. I don't have the knowledge to expand any of the articles really (for now at least!) but I think they look ok at the moment, and it's clear where any expansion should go. Jdcooper (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, request for comment on the proposed merger of

About 30 short stubs on Czech books and films have been nominated for deletion today and yesterday, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Czech Republic. Daß Wölf 02:35, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

I've noticed. I think that most of the articles could be easily saved. I have to admit that creations were a bit sloppy, but the nominations are sloppy as well. There is nothing creative or constructive in it.

Vejvančický (talk / contribs

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It is a very good translation. Well done. - Darwinek (talk) 22:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!

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An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g.

Hi there, I have introduced the List of music museums, and a number of Czech museums are written in Czech (also a number in Dutch) but not in English. Are there users at this project that like to write some of these articles? Best regards, Ymnes (talk) 17:23, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

In order to not only ask, but to give something back as well, I have written an article for your project in return: Music Without Musicians (museum on mechanical music instruments). Happy editing! Ymnes (talk) 15:12, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Ymnes! C679 07:03, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Parukářka Park has been nominated for deletion. Are project members able to help determine if this park is notable? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:58, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, I am wondering why there is, on page Sport in the Czech Republic, a special paragraph about Bandy while there is not about Floorball or Street hockey? Floorbal and Street hockey are both very famous sports in Czech Republic. In both sports the Czech Republic occupies top ranks (3rd and 4th) worldwide. Yet no paragraph is written about theese sports. On the other side Bandy is unknown sport in Czech Republic. I guess most of the people in Czech Republic never heard of Bandy.

Jala38 (talk) 19:24, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I absolutely concur. No one in the Czech Republic ever heard of bandy, with the exception of bandy players themselves. Feel free to fix the Sport in the Czech Republic article. - Darwinek (talk) 23:45, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

There is a discussion regarding the reliability of recent coverage in Mladá fronta DNES at the reliable sources noticeboard. Your input is requested and appreciated. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § Post-Velvet Revolution Mladá fronta DNES _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:55, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi everyone. I've been thinking for some time if there would be any difference in English translation of vojenský prostor and vojenský újezd. After some initial research, my feeling is they both would be translated as military training area (we have already Boletice Military Training Area on enwiki), even though both vojenský prostor and vojenský újezd are slightly different things. We can even think of vojenský újezd as a type of municipal subdivision - after all the újezdy (all 4 of them in the ČR) are included in district navboxes on Czech Wikipedia as well. Can someone give an opinion / advice on this? Pinging @Filelakeshoe:. Thanks. - Darwinek (talk) 22:03, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

As I understand this "vojenský újezd" describes the administrative unit and "vojenský prostor" describes what the place is used for. The only thing that comes to mind is translating újezd as "district" rather than "area", which I feel ever so slightly better captures that, though it's not really very idiomatic. It's a good question, I have forwarded it to a group of translators, will have a better answer soon I'm sure. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 22:19, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. Please let me know when you will hear back from the translators. - Darwinek (talk) 22:45, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

A few people suggested "military district" for vojenský újezd, which I dislike for the reason below. Another suggestion was military exclusion zone which I am not sure I agree with, as to me that rather suggests a temporary zone established during a war. Someone else suggested "proving ground" which per our article is just American English for "military training area". The idea I find myself agreeing with is that both should just be translated as "military training area" (or "proving ground", but let's stick with BrE as we already have one article.) That military training areas form municipal subdivisions administered by the army would just have to be explained in text. I doubt we would ever need separate articles for the "prostor" and "újezd" anyway. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 22:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. I concur with your analysis, and also think "military training area" is the best option. Let's stick with that. - Darwinek (talk) 23:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Just realised, this is a terrible idea as military district has another meaning. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 22:29, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

I noticed the composer Leopold Koželuh has his article here under a modified surname as Leopold Koželuch. I see some of the English-language sources really mention his surname as "Koželuch". Shouldn't we move this article to "Leopold Koželuh" in line with Czech wiki? Please note his cousin Jan Antonín Koželuh has his surname correctly written here. - Darwinek (talk) 20:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Hmm,

Vejvančický (talk / contribs

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As far as I know Czech classical-era composers, before the national revival, were often referred to by "German" names, and since German has no way of writing the sound ž, "Koželuch" is as good as the German fans could do.

Looking up the rest of the composers in my copy of "české sonatiny", our articles seem to generally prefer the Czech names, as in:

• František Xaver Dušek
• Josef Mysliveček
• Jan Václav Voříšek
• Jan Ladislav Dussek (the last name should be Dušík, I guess it is an archaic spelling)

but the following are German:

• Johann Baptist Wanhal
• Leopold Koželuch

If English sources use the German names more often there's not going to be much of a case for renaming them. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 06:54, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I note however that even de.wiki uses "Koželuh". I guess a case could be made as per

WP:NCUE "no established usage" (Czech for Czech composers). – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱

07:07, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

There is a proposal to move the article on the

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I wonder if anyone has an opinion to share on this. Regards and Happy Easter where approproate. Charles01 (talk) 06:56, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi - what do you think about the article

Bit of a

coatrack if you ask me. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱

10:38, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Agreed, I commented on the DYK nom page. Nice to hear from you again,

Vejvančický (talk / contribs

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There are 93 "active" members of this Wikiproject. The way I see it, we need to filter the member list and split it into categories by their activity on Wikipedia. Then – if there is enough members left in the "actually active" category – we can broadly categorize them according to their areas of interest. Most wikipedians want to contribute only to the topics they find interesting. That would enable us to directly contact each other and ask for help/second opinion. Martin J. Němeček (talk) 07:09, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello? Anybody there? Is there at least one person in this Wikiproject? Martin J. Němeček (talk) 17:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

There are some people who regularly contribute to this topic area (myself, Vejvančický, Filelakeshoe, Darwinek among others) but most work actually happens outside the wikiproject. (t · c) buidhe 18:06, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. So is there any place where you communicate? Or is everyone just doing their own thing? Why don't we end this Wikiproject if it's not regularly used anyway? Martin J. Němeček (talk) 20:57, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

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Vejvančický (talk / contribs

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Alright. Martin J. Němeček (talk) 09:38, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I have nominated Jan Sokol (philosopher) to be posted to In the news section of Main Page, see Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#RD:_Jan_Sokol. Feel free to improve the article even more, for example, there is more content at cswiki article. Jklamo (talk) 14:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello. I started an article about Gymnázium třída Kapitána Jaroše. I have set up the bare bones, and the school's website has copious information about its own history, but I would appreciate help finding some independent sources, if anyone knows where to find them. Jdcooper (talk) 01:51, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, not sure how active this project is nowadays, but I intend to submit Czech language for FAC soon. If anyone fancies reading through it and leaving any comments on talk that would be great. I have probably read it too many times now. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 12:07, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

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Help on Eastern European languages

Hello!

Our of boredom, I am trying to identify the languages of inscriptions on a fountain located in central Budapest. I could easily identify some languages such as Hebrew, Armenian, Russian, English, French, Spanish etc. but I have trouble with some, mostly Slavic, languages which I do not speak myself. I guess that they must include Czech (or Slovak), Slovene, Croatian/Serbian/Bosniak, Macedonian, Bulgarian and/or maybe others.

Translations of 'The place is ours':

• Trg je naš / Площадьт е наш (pretty sure that's Bulgarian) / Naš trg / Nas trg / [unreadable] naše je námestie

Translations of 'Non potable water':

• Водата не е за пиене / Voda ni pitna / Непитна вода / Nepitná voda / Nepitka voda / Voda nije za piće

Translations of 'Open lawn':

• Ходенето по тревата е разрешено / Dozvoljeno je gaziti (ǧaziti?) po travi / Dozvoljeno gaženje trave

I also do not manage to identify the language in 3 other inscriptions for which glossaries easily available online did not help. Could it be Romani?

• Náj lasó ráji / Ámáro szi o placo / Pécsár saj ustarén

Is anyone here able to tell which is which? Note that many inscriptions (such as in French and Greek) have spelling mistakes and inconsistent respect of diacritics.

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Place Clichy (talk) 15:55, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

The ones in Cyrillic are definitely Bulgarian. "naše je námestie" (very weird syntax) and "nepitná voda" are Slovak. The others are all Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian, haven't the foggiest which are meant to be which. Some of them are slight rewordings of the same phrase, like "trg je naš" means "the square is ours" but "naš trg" just means "our square". – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 18:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Requested reassessment: Bohemian Shepherd

Hi all, Ive substantially rewritten Bohemian Shepherd. I'd love to garner some feedback and perhaps get an improved rating.

Thanks--Annwfwn (talk) 19:47, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

It's at least C class. It may well be B-class but I don't feel well equipped to evaluate sourcing or coverage, as required for B-class according to Wikipedia:Content_assessment. (t · c) buidhe 20:02, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

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Would anyone be interested in polishing up Draft:Illusion Art Museum Prague? I think it would be a nice addition if the article got a little more attention from someone who knows about museums in Prague. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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