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By no means an expert, but seems a glaring omission to have left out the fact that some of the "exiles" were imprisoned at Malta in conjunction with the Armenian Genocide. Also, there is little detail here regarding said suspects' subsequent release by British Authorities. Would like to know more. Makes me question the objectivity of such a sensitive topic. Anyone out there an authority on the subject -- someone who might be able to respectably contribute?Austincconsidine 05:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- They were held as much because of crimes committed against British soldiers as crimes committed against Armenians. Nor were they in a real sense prisoners. They were allowed to move relatively freely about, and on Sept 6th 1921 sixteen of them actually escaped from the island because they were so loosly guarded, others had escaped prior to that. The last of the prisoners were released in exchange for British citizens held captive by Kemalist forces. Much of the problem with this entry is that its content is derived from nationalistic Turkish sources. Dadrian covers these events in reasonable detail in chapter 17 of his "The History of the Armenian Genocide". Meowy 23:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Prisoners
Main reason of the roundups.
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Turkish national movement
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Council of Kars | ||
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The occupation of the people.
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1 | Name | Roundup Date | Roundup ID | Function in the Ottoman Empire | Aftermath | |
2 | Ali İhsan Sabis Pasha
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29 Mart 1919 | 26 67 | eski 6. Ordu komutanı | Eylül 1921'de dönmüş (veya firar etmiş), Büyük Taarruz öncesine kadar Kurtuluş Savaşı'nda yer almıştır. | |
3 | İbrahim Ahmet | 29 Mart 1919 | 26 68 | Ali İhsan Pasha 'nın emir onbaşısı, tutuklanan komutanından ayrılmamış, gönüllü sürgüne gitmiştir
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4 | Mustafa Kemal Pasha
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May 28 1919 | Ordu Komutanı | |||
5 | Abdülgani Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 95 | Yarbay | ||
6 | Ahmet Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 24 | eski Sivas Governor | ||
7 | Ahmet Cevat Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 24 | albay, İstanbul mevki kumandanı
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8 | Ahmet Haydar Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 08 | binbaşı | ||
9 | Ahmet Muammer Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 19 | eski Konya Governor | ||
10 | Ahmet Nesimi Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 19 | eski Hariciye Nazırı | ||
11 | Ahmet Tevfik Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 80 | albay | ||
12 | Ali Fethi Okyar
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May 28 1919 | 26 80 | eski Dahiliye Nazırı, Sofya sefiri | ||
13 | Atıf Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 02 | Ankara mebusu | ||
14 | Celal Pasha
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May 28 1919 | 26 76 | Albay | ||
15 | Cemal Efendi | May 28 1919 | 26 94 | Yüzbaşı | ||
16 | Faik Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 37 | eski Merzifon kaymakamı | ||
17 | Fazıl Berki Tümtürk | May 28 1919 | 26 98 | eski Çankırı mebusu | ||
18 | Ferit Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 03 | Committee of Union and Progress katibi | ||
19 | Gani Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 23 | İttihatçı | ||
20 | Habip Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 85 | Bolu mebusu | ||
21 | Hacı Ahmet Pasha | May 28 1919 | 27 39 | Enver Pasha'nın babası | ||
22 | Doktor Halil Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 99 | Yüzbaşı | ||
23 | Hasan Fehmi Bey
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May 28 1919 | 26 88 | Sinop mebusu | ||
24 | Ürgüplü Mustafa Hayri Efendi | May 28 1919 | 27 34 | Seyhülislam
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25 | Hazım Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 78 | Binbaşı | ||
26 | Hilmi Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 89 | Kırklareli Mutasarrıfı | ||
27 | Hoca Rıfat Efendi | May 28 1919 | 27 06 | Committee of Union and Progress temsilcisi | ||
28 | Hüseyin Cahit Yalçın | May 28 1919 | 26 75 | İstanbul mebusu, Journalist | ||
29 | Hüseyin Kadri Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 05 | Karesi mebusu
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30 | İbrahim Bedrettin Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 01 | Diyarbakır Governor | ||
31 | İbrahim Hakkı Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 10 | binbaşı | ||
32 | İsmail Canbulat Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 92 | eski Dahiliye Nazırı | ||
33 | Kemal Bey | May 28 1919 | Unknown | Unknown | ||
34 | Macit Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 04 | Divan-ı Muhasebat Memuru | ||
35 | Mazlum Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 07 | Binbaşı | ||
36 | Mehmet Sabit Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 86 | eski Sivas Governor | ||
37 | Sabri Toprak | May 28 1919 | 27 29 | Saruhan Mebusu
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38 | Mehmet Tevfik Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 79 | Yarbay, Kaymakam | ||
39 | Memduh Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 33 | eski Musul Governor | ||
40 | Mithat Sükrü Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 93 | Committee of Union and Progress Üyesi | ||
41 | Mustafa Asım bey | May 28 1919 | 27 11 | eski Of Mutasarrıfı | ||
42 | Mümtaz Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 97 | Emekli Yarbay | ||
43 | Nevzat Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 96 | Yüzbaşı | ||
44 | Ömer Bey
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May 28 1919 | 26 81 | Binbaşı | ||
45 | Evrenoszade Rahmi Arslan | May 28 1919 | 26 91 | eski İzmir Governor | ||
46 | Rıza Hamit Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 40 | Bursa Mebusu | ||
47 | Saip İbrahim Pirzade | May 28 1919 | 27 35 | Sura-ı Devlet Reisi, Nazır | ||
48 | Salah Cimcoz Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 28 | İstanbul Mebusu
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49 | Sami Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 09 | Albay | ||
50 | Doktor Süleyman Numan Pasha | May 28 1919 | 27 32 | Ordu Sıhhiye Müfettişi | ||
51 | Süleyman Sudi Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 30 | Tokat Mebusu, Lazistan mebusu olarak da görünmektedir. | ||
52 | Serafettin Efendi | May 28 1919 | 26 77 | Yüzbaşı | ||
53 | Sükrü Kaya
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May 28 1919 | 27 38 | Mülkiye Müfettişi | ||
54 | Tahir Cevdet Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 90 | eski Ankara Governor | ||
55 | Tevfik Hadi Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 82 | Siyasi Polis Müdürü | ||
56 | Mehmet Ubeydullah Hatipoğlu | May 28 1919 | 27 31 | İzmir Mebusu | ||
57 | Veli Necdet Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 87 | Dahiliye Nazırlığı Müstesharı | ||
58 | Yusuf Ziya Bey | May 28 1919 | 26 84 | Emekli Binbaşı, Committee of Union and Progress Üyesi | ||
59 | Zekeriya Zihni Bey | May 28 1919 | 27 18 | eski Edirne Governor | ||
60 | Aziz Cihangiroğlu | June 2 1919 | Kars Surası üyesi, Adalet Bakanı | |||
61 | Alibeyzade Mehmet Bey | June 2 1919 | 27 16 | Kars Surası Üyesi, Kars Sivil Governor | ||
62 | Hasan Han Cihangiroğlu | June 2 1919 | Kars Surası üyesi, Savunma Bakanı | |||
63 | İbrahim Cihangiroğlu | June 2 1919 | 27 17 | Kars Surası üyesi, Sura Başkanı | ||
64 | Mehmetoğlu Muhlis Bey | June 2 1919 | 27 27 | Kars Surası Üyesi, PTT Genel Müdürü | ||
65 | Matroi Radjinski | June 2 1919 | 27 25 | Kars Surası Rus Üyesi | ||
66 | Musa Salah Bey | June 2 1919 | 27 20 | Kars Surası Üyesi, Polis Müdürü | ||
67 | Pavlo Camızev | June 2 1919 | 27 14 | Kars Surası Rum Üyesi | ||
68 | Tauchitgin Memlejeff | June 2 1919 | 27 22 | Kars Surası Üyesi, Emniyet Müdürü | ||
69 | Stefani Vafiades | June 2 1919 | 27 26 | Kars Surası Rum Üyesi, Sosyal Yardım Bakanı | ||
70 | Yusufoğlu Yusuf Bey | June 2 1919 | 27 21 | Kars Surası Üyesi, Gıda Bakanı | ||
71 | Abbas Halim Pasha | September 21 1919 | 27 54 | Prens, Eski Nafia Nazırı, Sait Halim Pasha ’nın kardeşi.
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Malta'dan sonra İstanbul’a, sonra da Mısır ’a gitti
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72 | Ahmet Ağaoğlu | September 21 1919 | 27 64 | Afyonkarahisar mebusu, Darülfünün hocası, yazar | ||
73 | Ali Münif Bey | September 21 1919 | 27 62 | eski Nafia Nazırı | ||
74 | Hacı Adil Bey | September 21 1919 | 27 57 | mebus | ||
75 | Halil Menteşe | September 21 1919 | 27 60 | Committee of Union and Progress üyesi | ||
76 | Hüseyin Tosun Bey | September 21 1919 | 27 65 | Milli Telgraf Ajansı sahibi ve müdürü | ||
77 | Kara Kemal Bey | September 21 1919 | 27 61 | eski İaşe Nazırı | ||
78 | Mahmut Kamil Pasha
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September 21 1919 | 27 58 | eski 5. Ordu Komutanı | ||
79 | Mithat Sükrü Bleda Bey | September 21 1919 | 27 56 | eski Maarif Nazırı, Burdur Mebusu, Committee of Union and Progress Genel Sekreteri | ||
80 | Said Halim Pasha | September 21 1919 | 27 55 | |||
81 | Ziya Gökalp | September 21 1919 | 27 59 | Ergani-Maden Mebusu, Darülfünün hocası | ||
82 | Mehmet Arif Bey | January 28 1920 | Binbaşı | |||
83 | Nuri Bitlisi | January 28 1920 | Çavuş | |||
84 | Faik Kaltakkıran | March 22 1920 | 27 80 | |||
85 | Ahmet Sevket Bey | March 22 1920 | 27 80 | İstanbul Müstahkem Mevki Komutanı | ||
86 | Mehmet Cemal Mersinli Pasha | March 22 1920 | 27 72 | |||
87 | Çürüksulu Mahmut Pasha | March 22 1920 | 27 71 | |||
88 | Hasan Tahsin Uzer
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March 22 1920 | 27 71 | eski Sam ve Erzurum Governor | ||
89 | Hüseyin Rauf Orbay
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March 22 1920 | 27 76 | eski Bahriye Nazırı, Sivas mebusu | ||
90 | İsmail Cevat Çobanlı Pasha
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March 22 1920 | 27 73 | |||
91 | Mehmet Esat Işık Pasha | March 22 1920 | 27 75 | Hekim | ||
92 | Mehmet Seref Aykut Bey | March 22 1920 | 27 79 | |||
93 | Mustafa Vasıf Karakol (Kara Vasıf) | March 22 1920 | 27 78 | |||
94 | Köstenceli Numan Usta | March 22 1920 | 27 81 | Zeytinburnu Fabrikasında Ustabaşı | ||
95 | Ahmet Emin Yalman | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 87 | Journalist | ||
96 | Ali Çetinkaya | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 87 | eski Afyon mebusu
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97 | Ali Sait Pasha | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 82 | |||
98 | Ali Seyyit Bey | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 94 | |||
99 | Celal Nuri İleri | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 85 | |||
100 | Ebüzziyazade Velit Pasha | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 83 | |||
101 | Enis Avni (Aka Gündüz) | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 91 | |||
102 | Hilmi Abdülkadir | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 89 | |||
103 | İslam Ali | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 86 | |||
104 | Mehmet Eczacıbaşı | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 90 | Eczacı, Sakir Eczacıbaşı'nın babası | ||
105 | Mehmet Muammer Bey | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 88 | |||
106 | Rafet Pasha (?)
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27 Mart 1920 | 27 92 | |||
107 | Süleyman Nazif | 27 Mart 1920 | 27 84 | eski Musul ve Bağdat Governor | ||
108 | Acenta Mustafa Kırzade | 20 Mayıs 1920 | 27 86 | Tacir | ||
109 | Doktor Abdüsselami Pasha | 20 Mayıs 1920 | Emekli general, eski Yemen komutanı | |||
110 | Mehmet Kamil Bey | 20 Mayıs 1920 | Musullu Journalist | |||
111 | Hacı Ahmet Bey | 31 Mayıs 1920 | Sivas Committee of Union and Progress Delegesi | |||
112 | Mustafa Reshat Bey | 31 Mayıs 1920 | İstanbul Siyasi Polis Müdürü
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113 | Agah Bey | June 7 1920 | 27 86 | |||
114 | Basri Bey | June 7 1920 | yarbay, Cevat Pasha 'nın damadı
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115 | Mustafa Abdülhalik Renda
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June 7 1920 | eski Bitlis Governor | |||
116 | Ali Cenani | June 13 1920 | eski Antep mebusu
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117 | Andavallı Mehmet Ağa | June 13 1920 | ||||
118 | Murat Bey | June 13 1920 | ||||
119 | Süleyman Faik Pasha | June 13 1920 | ||||
120 | Yakup Sevki Subası | June 13 1920 | eski 9. Ordu Komutanı | |||
121 | Ali Nazmi Bey | August 6 1920 | ||||
122 | Hoca İlyas Sami Muş | August 19 1920 | Muş mebusu | |||
123 | Mehmet Atıf Bey | August 19 1920 | ||||
124 | Mehmet Nazım Bey
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August 19 1920 | ||||
125 | Süleyman Necmi Bey | August 19 1920 | ||||
126 | Sefer Bey | 12 Eylül 1920 | ||||
127 | Burhanettin Hakkı Bey | 20 Eylül 1920 | ||||
128 | Mehmet Nuri Bey | 20 Eylül 1920 | ||||
129 | Mehmet Rıfat Bey | 20 Eylül 1920 | ||||
130 | Cemal Oğuz Bey | 5 Ekim 1920 | ||||
131 | Mehmet Ali Bey
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5 Ekim 1920 | ||||
132 | Ahmet Sükrü Bey | 27 63 | eski Maarif Nazırı, mebusu | |||
133 | Cevat Bey | İstanbul mevki kumandanı
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134 | Eşref Sencer Kuşçubaşı | Teşkilat-ı Mahsusa
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135 | İsmail Müştak Mayokan | Yazar, Milletvekili | ||||
136 | Kazım Bey
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Albay, Enver Pasha’nın kayınbiraderi | ||||
137 | Mürsel Bakü
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Tümgeneral, Milletvekili | İzmir’e giren Süvari Komutanı. | |||
138 | Sabit Bey | eski Sivas Governor | ||||
139 | Sükrü Bey | eski Maarif Nazırı | ||||
140 | Galatalı Sevki Bey | Miralay, Malta’ya sürgüne gönderilinceye kadar Outpost örgütünün başı | ||||
141 | Yunus Nadi Abalıoğlu | Journalist, Yeni Gün gazetesi sahibi | valign="top" align="right" style="background:Pink" | |
For Outpost, isn't it better to use the original Turkish term, Karakol? Such as Karakol Society...It's easily pronouncable internationally? Cretanforever 18:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Merge proposal
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- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result was merge into Effort to prosecute Ottoman war criminals -- AmericanAir88 (talk) 02:01, 6 November 2017 (UTC)]
- The result was merge into
Should we have
- Merge - This article's topic is too narrow. --92slim (talk) 16:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- I also agree with the merge, but suggest the reverse direction, given that Effort to prosecute Ottoman war criminals is the broader topic and already has a relevant section covering the prosecutions in Malta. As the lede of the Malta exiles article also attests, the term seems to predominantly Turkish. Klbrain (talk) 15:36, 21 October 2017 (UTC)]
- I also agree with the merge, but suggest the reverse direction, given that
Reactivate page
I'll make an effort to re-create the page. In 2010, the page was mach larger, but had significant parts in Turkish which I now will adapt into English. I have created some articles for members if the Malta Exiles and I anyway though I'd create such an article until I found out a redirect already exists.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:03, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Sourcing Issues
I'm not a regular contributor to Wikipedia, just doing some research on the Malta Deportees/Exiles recently and I was wondering if there might by an issue with the main source used, that of Bilal N. Simsir's. The only reason I mention it is that the essay he writes on the matter seems to be a clear attempt to deny/minimise the existence of the Armenian Genocide, which might make it a poor source to use? Sorry if I'm completely wrong lol PandaWiki8 (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)