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Help with deleted page

You deleted a page I put up on myPartner. I put a request on the talk page asking what I needed to fix and/or change. Instead of getting a response, it was just deleted. I would still like some information, so I can make the page stick. Thanks! Blm0303 (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy response. I can see the original page now, but there is no talk page. Blm0303 (talk) 21:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

sprotection

thanks so much for the semiprotection!Cholga

talK!
20:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Glad I could help. Rudget. 21:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding semi-protection can I suggest you look again at Manchester. In the four days between your removal of SP and its subsequent re-protection there were just two instances of vandalism amongst many other edits. As such, there is no valid reason for SP. Please see the SP policy at Wikipedia:Protection policy. Thanks. 82.20.28.142 (talk) 23:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest that you are not that well acquainted with the (semi) protection policy, otherwise you wouldn't have protected Manchester. Please explain how two instances of vandalism in four days justifies your action. Could you also review Mathematics. This is yet another article that remains SPd without good cause. There are very many more such articles. It seems that one of the problems is admins applying SP with overly long expiry, or no expiry at all. 82.20.28.142 (talk) 15:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:GM

Hello there Rudget!

I came originally to ask you a question, but, I've since (and only just) realised you've left

WP:GM
... Why????? I understand you're busy in your admin role, and have had disagreements with Malleus, but they're no reasons to leave!

I found your membership to have been very enriching for the project. Won't you reconsider joining us again, even if it is just in spirit? I work closely with Malleus, and rate him as a premium editor, but still believe you are more that welcome to work with us as a unit! Of course it is your call and you may have your reasons.

My original question was regarding the archive bot on

WT:GM - it appears to have stopped archiving! Just one good example as to why I believe you should still be around helping us. Seriously. -- Jza84 · (talk
) 01:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd love to be still informally associated with WP:GM, but time restrictions prevent me! I'll still help and provide opinions where necessary. And that adminship offer still stands. Rudget. 19:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I enjoy the writing of articles much more than getting involved in debates, which seem plentiful around the role of administrator at the moment to say the least! My main concern is that I don't have enough experience in the fashionable sections of behind-the-scenes Wikipedia, but also that my love first and foremost is in article space; admin tools for me would probably be used infrequently, probably a page move here or there.
Since your offer of adminship however, I have ensured every edit has a summary, I've tightened up how I work in talk page debates as well as expanded some of my work into guidelines and admin nominations. I know I would be a responsible and repectable administrator (whether I could convince people of this is another matter), but whether I really lust after the tools is something I really need to think about before the scrutenisation of RfA.
Anyway, thanks for taking time to fix the bot. I'll think about adminship on the promise you'll maintain contact with
WP:GM! -- Jza84 · (talk
) 19:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
You better get ready then! :) Rudget. 12:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Proposal RE: User:Mikkalai's vow of silence

You are a previous participant in the discussion at

WP:CANVAS
support for any particular position.

The proposal can be found at: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Proposed resolution (Mikkalai vow of silence) Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 01:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Favor

I was wondering if you could do me a huge favor. My last RfA failed, and failed bad. I am getting ready for re-nomination later on in this month or next month. I was wondering if you could look over my contributions and tell me what I've been doing good and what I need to improve upon. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Undeath (talk) 05:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Genesis vandal

I blocked five version of him myself this morning. The first was Pbuee (talk · contribs) at about 9 am EST. He brought on a new account about once every 3 minutes for fifteen minutes. I posted them all for an IP block. Good times, though, huh? – ClockworkSoul 14:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for the comment, you've made my day. :) αѕєηιηє t/c 15:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for the Barnstar! And yeah I am bored of And-Rew so I thought I would use my middle name, Joshua, which has already been taken so Joshii sound good lol

talk
16:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Was page protection here really necessary? I only see one recent blatant vandal, and he's been blocked.   jj137 (talk) 16:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Aah, yes, I see they did it once yesterday under a different IP address. But, besides that, it hasn't been edited in about two weeks, so I ask again.   jj137 (talk) 16:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
OK. It is fine with me either way, but I was just curious about why you protected it.   jj137 (talk) 16:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
That makes sense. Thanks for the answer.   jj137 (talk) 17:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

RE:Reply

It worked great. I was just getting different admin's opinions, because my RfA won't have people who vote all the same way. Undeath (talk) 16:51, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Danke Herr Rudget. Undeath (talk) 17:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

You might like to know....

Your a wikipedia boss now, apparently :P The Daily Mail just to mention one ;) See yah around! Tiddly-Tom 20:32, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Canvassing

You know, I looked over the rules and think that only one word was wrong. I said "for Minnesota" and could have said "on Minnesota". It was not my intention to only get support votes. Any sort of feedback would have helped and was begged for at

talk
) 20:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Rudget. You were the GA Reviewer for The Last Temptation of Krust. The recently closed FAC for The Last Temptation of Krust was closed with 2 comments and one "Support" after 2 weeks, and I'd like to start another FAC for it soon. Do you feel you could "Support" the article in its current status, if I started another FAC for it? Is there anything else that you think I should do first, to further improve the status of the article? Thanks again for the GA Review. Cirt (talk) 20:51, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sure thing. Rudget. 09:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I will notify you when the FAC starts (but only a neutrally worded notification, which will be to you, the GA Reviewer, the editors that commented at the previous FAC, and relevant WikiProjects, SandyGeorgia (talk · contribs) said that was okay). Cirt (talk) 09:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you very much for giving your support to my admin application, which recently closed successfully (36/3/1). I hope I can continue to justify the confidence that you have placed in me. If there is any way that I can help out more, or if you have any handy tips for a freshly-hatched admin, please drop me a line. Thanks again. - 52 Pickup (deal) 21:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Here's a barnstar for improving Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia!
(Review)
22:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Rudget. 09:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA cleanup

Ah, thanks for removing that. I knew I'd forgotten something. :) GlassCobra 10:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Tks

Tks for looking out for me. I guess my warning really pissed that guy off. Makes you wonder what he's doing to the ones that blocked him ;-) How you been? RlevseTalk 14:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Same as recently, Scouting stuff (just had another make FA), arbcom clerking, and sock fighting. RlevseTalk 14:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

ADCO

I put my name down, iirc. But knowing my memory, I'm probably wrong. Yes, I would be absolutely delighted to go under ADCO with you. αѕєηιηє t/c 14:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I appreciate this. αѕєηιηє t/c 14:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Venkanna H. Naik

Thanks for educating; I did not understand the meaning of {{hangon}}. I would not renominate while it is already nominated for deletion. Tangi-tamma (talk) 14:39, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA reply

I'm not planning on self nominating. Jimfbleak will probably re-nominate me too, but a co-nomination would be great too. :) Undeath (talk) 16:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Call me stupid, but your last comment put me in one of those confusing situations. Was your statement a confirmation that you might co-nominate me at my next RfA? Undeath (talk) 03:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

New RFA

The RFA you asked about is now active. RlevseTalk 17:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

checkY Supported. Rudget. 17:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The mechanix

Thanks for responding to my request of speedy deletion of The mechanix redirect. I noticed that you deleted the talk page for The mechanix, where I had also placed a db-maintenance template (along with my explanation for the speedy delete of the redirect). The actual redirect still exists, however. This is my first request for speedy deletion, so I'm not sure how the process goes. Is a decision still pending? I put a db-maintenance template on the redirect page, but didn't want to break the redirect, so I put it underneath the #REDIRECT code. Consequently, it's not obvious; accessed normally, the page simply redirects. Was that not the proper way to place the template? Noca2plus (talk) 22:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: semi-protection of
Napoleon I of France

Thanks for putting on semi-protection. I have been working on this page for a few weeks now, and unfortunately I have had to spend more time on reverting vandalism than on article improvement. Feel free to leave the status as long as you want, as the article seems to be a vandal magnet. Historymike (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


Hi, this got respeedied before I had a chance to replace the article, per the {{hangon}} I'd set. Could you restore article and talk page, please? Thanks,NapoliRoma (talk) 18:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

(You wrote): "you had an hour?"
I'm not sure what the objection is here. Do you mean I had an hour since I posted the hangon? During that time, another admin speedied the article; he restored it at my request, but did not restore the talk page, so I had to request that and wait for him to do so. Getting that all sorted out took a chunk of time.
I posted my reasons for the hangon as soon as I possibly could, and then turned to editing the article, which I now have ready to post with citations, at which point I found it had been deleted again.
Given all of the above, can you please restore the article and talk in place? I'm confused why this had to be deleted so quickly, given the hangon and explanation posted in the article and talk page, respectively. I'd like to think it was clear I wasn't sitting on my hands during that time, but actually working on researching and integrating citations for the article -- as I said I would be doing on the talk page.NapoliRoma (talk) 18:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the restore!
This is actually kind of amusing (now that I can look back at it with some level of detachment :-): it looks like you redeleted the page about two minutes before the other editor restored its talk page, or about 11 minutes before I had a chance to finish posting my rationale for the hangon...
(Maybe there needs to be some rule-of-thumb for speedies, such as "allow at least one day before deleting for every year the article has been in existence. :-)--NapoliRoma (talk) 19:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Seraph

That would be great. Proposing a candidate is not an excecise in ego-stroking, it should be with the idea of the best for the project, and more co-nominations just goes to show the community how well-thought-of and appropriate the candidate is, so please, if she approves, go right ahead. -- Avi (talk) 19:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

If she gives the OK for you to co-nom, I'll copy it out of your sandbox and place it in the subpage. Thanks! -- Avi (talk) 19:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Nicely done, except for some gratitious hyperbole about your co nom {:-o -- Avi (talk) 20:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank-you for your support and the lovely comments :). Seraphim♥ Whipp 21:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Your advice

I may just take your advice there! I may have made big steps recently but others wont be able to see that unless I wait a while. Will contact you if I have any questions, thanks for the offer! --Camaeron (talk) 19:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

PS: 39S vs 16O; why did it fail anyway? --Camaeron (talk) 19:29, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Omg, hope I dont have to work it out myself. I hate maths! --Camaeron (talk) 19:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Rudget ! I might need some help with my article ... There are differences between german and english Wiki Version - copy and paste is easy - to solve more complicated not. So i need some time ... and perhaps a litte help from your side. I am member of DanWessenForum its a community project to help each other with our colletibles ... Tom --Dan Wesson (talk) 18:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

looked at deletion log: 18:02, 4 March 2008 Rudget (Talk | contribs) deleted "Dan Wesson" ‎(G12: Blatant copyright infringement)

Sorry made the mistake not to save after inserting hangon ... so ariticle was deleted while i was editing ...

i am a bit slow i know .... but i still have the page in my browser and try to finish now ... OK ?

uoops now it blocked .. pleses release it again - Thanks -- Tom 19:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Germans writing in english Wiki ... struggle struggle ...

Thanks a lot for helping me ! Tom --Dan Wesson (talk) 20:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


  • -- Merged from first and second Dan Wesson headline entry -- --Dan Wesson (talk) 10:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


It needs a lot of work. Corvus cornixtalk 19:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Good luck.  :) Corvus cornixtalk 19:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


Germans writing in english Wiki ... struggle struggle ...

Thanks a lot for helping me ! --Dan Wesson (talk) 20:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

It got deleted? Corvus cornixtalk 03:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

.. cry ... deleted once more while editing ... see my user talk ... thanks to Rudget i had a good base ... now i feel like Don Quixote --Dan Wesson (talk) 10:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

... working again at it ... @ Rudget you might have a look: [1]--Dan Wesson (talk) 12:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


Hello Rudget !

CC said: It needs a lot of work. ___ indeed but i have nearly done it _____
As the first person beeing gentle to me in wikipedia i adress myselft once again to you :)
Please have a look to my sandbox [2]- i am thankful for any advice.

Yours Tom --Dan Wesson (talk) 10:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Dan Wessontalk

RE: RfA

I don't know if you want to or not, but I'm probably going to have my RfA set up either tonight or tomorrow. I'm going to ask my previous nominator, Jimfbleak. If you would wish to co-nom, please do so. I could use all the help I can get. Thanks in advance. Undeath (talk) 03:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Added some responses

... at User:Asenine/AC. :) αѕєηιηє t/c 14:15, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Post

First of all, your message hurt my delicate eyes. ;) As for your question, I haven't done anything in the last several weeks with my WikiProjects. Football is done, baseball hasn't started, haven't been gnoming, haven't been copyediting. But I did just block a n00b for posting a full body shot pic of his own naked and erect self on several userpages. (maybe that's why my eyes are burning and not your message)... Is that a WikiProject? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up my talkpage. As for your I've just checked the Bible, and realised I can be stoned to death for excessive use of exclamation marks edit summary, not to worry. Look up John 8:7 and see if anyone would dare to throw a stone at you....:-)Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

The Working Man's Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
In recognition of your excellent set of contributions, all of which are so very useful in helping us all move Wikipedia forward, I award you this barnstar. Keep up the excellent work. :-) Lradrama 20:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Seconded! -

talk
) 21:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Spain

Hi. I saw this passed and happy to see it. I made one small copyedit to correct the

talk
) 21:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

My apologies. Thank you. Rudget. 21:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

FPC nomination

I'm glad you took the criticism of the image so well. ;-) And thanks for the prospective support if ever I do need it.. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 21:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I think I might want this user name, to redirect to me... Thoughts? - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 21:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

It's another user who was impersonating you? Rudget. 21:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but since he's indef. blocked, he can't have that name, now can he? :-) - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 13:54, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Baird Jones

You may get a complaint from user Asingleton-green (talk · contribs) about the speedy deletion of his page Baird Jones which I tagged A7 and you deleted. Don't worry unless you do, but if you do, my discussion with him about it is here. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Rudget. 21:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Ow. Dlohcierekim 19:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC) UR welcome. no prob. Oh. When I said "Ow," I meant "how did I do that?" Cheers, Dlohcierekim 20:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

You have a new fan

Viz.,

contact
) 21:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Award

Hey Rudget!
Congratulations on finding the page that does not exist. Here is your reward; you've earned it. User:Selfworm/HiddenLinkAward Congrats!selfwormTalk) 04:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Could you help me out?

Hello Rudget. I see that you frequently nominate users for adminship. I was wondering if you could take some time and check out my contributions and such, and let me know what I would need to improve upon in order to work towards becoming an admin. Thanks alot!

11
06:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem when you do it.
11
18:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Your generous words

I just saw that you namechecked me in your RFA nom of Seraphim Whipp [3] and felt I could not let such a lovely and generous comment go unacknowledged so here I am to say, well, thank you! and to let you know how deeply flattered I am to be referred to in those terms and in such a public way too. You have made my day. kindest regards, nancy (talk) 09:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

My RfB

I wanted to personally thank you, Rudget, for your support in my recent RfB. I would have had grave doubts about your judgment, being that you supported me, until your decision to co-nom SW with me. That proves you have excellent taste, and just slipped up hitting "S" instead of "O" at my RfB . I am also glad I ran in to you personally, and hope we can collaborate in the future. As for the RfB, I am thankful and appreciative that you feel that I am worthy of the trust the community requires of its bureaucrats, and I hope to continue to behave in a way that maintains your trust in me and my actions. I have heard the community's voice that they require more of a presence at RfA's of prospective bureaucrats, and I will do my best over the near future to demonstrate such a presence and allow the community to see my philosophy and practices in action. I hope I can continue to count on your support when I decide to once again undergo an RfB. If you have any suggestions, comments, or constructive criticisms, please let me know via talkpage or e-mail. Thank you again. -- Avi (talk) 16:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


Re closing per snow

Hey Rudget, thank you for the message on my talk. I apologize for not following the general unwritten rules of closing an RfA via the snow clause. I was attempting to be

bold in doing so. I appreciate you coming to me civilly and professionally to let me know. A non-admin closure of an RfA wasn't something I planned on ever doing, but I shall endeavor to be extremely mindful in the future - although I don't really see myself doing it again for fear of stepping on toes :) Cheers mate. Wisdom89 (T / C
) 16:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar.  Sunderland06  18:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Pseudoscience discretionary sanctions

Hi! As somebody who commented on a January proposal to place all articles related to homeopathy on article probation, I would greatly appreciate your input on a new proposal to help combat disruption that would scrap the probation and implement discretionary sanctions. I apologize for any intrusion, but this is to my knowledge the first time sanctions of this nature have been attempted to be enforced by the community, so I feel that a wide range of opinions is necessary. Thank you in advance for any comments you may make. east718 (talk) 18:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

(reinstalled after MiszaBot III cleanup)

Hello Rudget !

As the first person beeing gentle to me in wikipedia i adress myselft once again to you :)
CC said: It needs a lot of work. ___ indeed
Please have a look to my sandbox [4]- i am thankful for any advice.

Yours Tom Dan Wessontalk --Dan Wesson (talk) 16:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Had a look ? Need advice Tom --Dan Wesson (talk) 17:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


The article is splittet - please begin with User:Dan Wesson/Sandbox/Dan Wesson --Dan Wesson (talk) 17:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

. Thanks for advice ! Before clicking it, i still want to have some fine polishing to make it shiny :)

Any idea about portal question ? Tom --Dan Wesson (talk) 18:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


====> there are 103 featured portals, of a total of 548 portals

which one should i use? i'm not to lazy to check them all - but a second tip would be fine :) --Dan Wesson (talk) 18:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
its not concerning the page - it for having a partner concerning contents --Dan Wesson (talk) 18:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

in german wiki we have specialist for weapons in wiki - most of the join the portal support --Dan Wesson (talk) 18:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


Ok ! Thanks a lot for being such helpful and gentle to me - i really like ask for your help sometime again Tom --Dan Wesson (talk) 18:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


@ qualitystaff (forward?) Qualitätsoffensive --Dan Wesson (talk) 21:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC) .

Curses!

Using my admin coaching method, are ya? Stealing my hard work, eh? Well cool, at least I know that I did a good job developing it. ;) Malinaccier (talk) 22:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

March Newsletter, Issue V

Delivered on March 8th, 2008 by Jza84. If you do not wish to receive the newsletter, please add two *'s by your username on the Project Mainpage.

Sending one out of hope and courtesy! Hope you don't mind. -- Jza84 · (talk) 02:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I've been doing some new page patrolling and noticed this title come up again. I saw you deleted it because of copyvio but it has been recreated. Maybe you could check to see if it now complies, or has it just been recreated as it was? Mjroots (talk) 11:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Lantz631

I'm considering his unblock request ... the artist seems to be notable by one major-label release, and I've asked him to find and provide some reliable sources on his page. Do you have any comment? Daniel Case (talk) 14:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Scottevans

Thanks; good work! —TreasuryTag talk contribs 12:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I see you decided to block this user (

(talk)
12:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

With all due respect Camaron it was seen to be persistent not only by TreasuryTag (TT) but also Porcupine and Jayron32. Yes, I do understand there was a large time period between the final warning issued today and the one imposed previous to that. However, the user obviously knew what he was doing, and the attitude in which he carried out the edits for which he had received notes and then progressively moving towards warnings, continued. I will however shorten the block if there is a call to do so, but I should still think that it should be for a lengthy period of time; by which I mean the block should reflect the editing manner which has been conducted. Regards, Rudget (?) 12:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd also like to point out that I didn't actually see the report at AIV, but was infact looking at this and then decided to follow the redlinks, as I usually do. I am weird like that. Rudget (?) 12:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't think I was very clear, there is no doubt he was persistent, the point I am making is it was not persistent and obvious vandalism, hence why I questioned the report at
(talk)
13:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I guess it's up to him whether he does want to constructively contribute or not. Rudget (?) 13:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Done, this will help us found out the users intentions. If he makes no further edits or just blanks the page etc then we will just have to move on. If he does respond postivley, which I hope occurs as this user did actually make some good faith and reasonable contributions within the disruptive ones, then we can consider accepting that the preventive nature of the block no longer applies, and a unblock can be considered.
(talk)
14:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Of course. Rudget (?) 14:03, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Project Report

Hey Rudget! Nice job keeping the Project Report for the Signpost running! I've been gone for a while, and was worried it might not be continued...thanks much, and keep up the good work! Cheers, ( arky ) 18:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

What right do you have to do that? I believe Collins is in the right and none of you mysterious senior editors are talking on the level and without contention. On what grounds would you have to block? At least unblock Collins on the talk pages so we can hear what he has to say. Mecha12 (talk) 13:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject report

I see that you are the writer for the WikiProject report in the Signpost. I'm wondering how you can apply your Wikiproject for the segment for a future issue.

Chronic
05:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Chronic
04:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, any interviewee would do good. I would recommend interviewing either
Chronic
15:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
One more question: is it possible for multiple people to be interviewed?
Chronic
16:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, let's see:
Chronic
16:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I am a part of The Kliq, and would definitely be interviewed if possible.
thew 2008
18:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd have to say, that maybe, if we could do a fifteen question interview. We could have fifteen users answer one question each. There are a lot of experienced, active editors in our project. The fifteen I would say would have to be: 18:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
15 is way too many. For the interview why not have 2 questions for two people, and three for another: those can be IMatthew, The Chronic and Nikki311. The report will be placed on Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-03-10/WikiProject report. Rudget. 10:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thats cool. I'd speak with Nikki and Chronic about who answers which questions. But a question for you, once we decide, can I start answering the questions?
thew 2008
12:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Well I'd like three and four, but I'd like to make sure that Nikki and Chronic are okay with that. 12:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I've been busy in real life. I'd love to participate in the interview, and I'm fine with iMatt taking #3 and #4. Nikki311 18:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I've answered three of the questions. Would you mind adding that we also have a Featured Topic to the introduction? It's a pretty big accomplishment, in my opinion. Thanks. Nikki311 23:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Your quitting the MEDCAB case

You have quitted, while leaving the MEDCAB page full of indirect talk about your recess and about individuals - rather than about the article, so I opened a

Addhoc
. Eliko (talk) 19:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:ED_Railway_Sign.JPG listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered,

talk
17:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Mine RfB innit?

Why thank you! As you know, my RfB passed successfully with (133/4/3). And that means I pretty much own the universe now! And you're partly to blame.... But in all seriousness, thanks for your unswerving support and dodgy questions, I appreciate them both in equal measure! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Portal

What happened to

WP:FPORT page colour? OhanaUnitedTalk page
18:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Cheers!

For the cleaning up the vandalism on my talk page! Xdenizen (talk) 12:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello, my page Jeygopi Panisilvam was deleted because it was an unsourced biography of a living person. Actually, Panisilvam died in the 40s. Could you please restore the page? Thanks, JPAnis (talk) 12:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Scratch that, it's working now. JPAnis (talk) 12:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
People keep doing bad stuff to it. Can you stop them doing it? JPAnis (talk) 12:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! JPAnis (talk) 12:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Could you please unprod Jeygopi Panisilvam? It is notable and I do cite a source (see the references section). JPAnis (talk) 13:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Rudget. The book JPAnis offered as a source doesn't seem to exist, according to Amazon and Google Books, and Calcutta Press doesn't seem to exist either, except as a simple printer. Furthermore, the article itself is very silly - apparently he was killed in 1948, but became tribal leader in 1956, after the tribe had been dissolved in 1947. Looking at the page history, I suspect that this is a class of schoolkids playing games with each other. Could you consider whether this can be speedied as a blatent hoax/vandalism, or failing that unprotect/reduce to semiprotection so I can nominate it for deletion? Cheers, Iain99Balderdash and piffle 13:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hiya. I've listed it at AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeygopi Panisilvam, but since the article's protected I can't put the AfD template at the top of the page - would you mind adding it please? Thanks Iain99Balderdash and piffle 14:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Review

Hello Rudget,

Just a note that I have started an editor review process for myself with purposes of getting feedback on where I can improve upon my usership. I may use it in any admin nomination way down the line. I don't expect you to participate (I understand that third parties should be involved here), but wanted to let you know I'm being pro-active about this. -- Jza84 · (talk) 13:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

wikibreak

[5] Date changed per request. Enjoy your relaxation time! - Revolving Bugbear 14:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Eh, I remember the wikibreak enforcer... hated it, despite the fact that it carried out its intended purpose. ;) ·
AndonicO Hail!
18:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I managed to remember the password for 23:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Report (3-17)

Is it still open? I'd like to make a request for Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones. Just reply if possible.Mitch32contribs 11:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

My pals had a question. Can you interview more than just me, we've got 4 people willing to be interviewed if that's ok with you.Mitch32contribs 16:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what to do about this guy. At first glance he appeared to be a typical vandalism only account: [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] but then I looked further and saw he had some positive, if minor, contribs: [12] [13] [14]. I don't get how someone's done as much vandalism as he has without a block, but on the other hand it seems odd that he does good work mixed with vandalism and ignores all the warnings. :/ Any idea what to do? -- Naerii · plz create stuff 14:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


Vandalism Level

  • Hi Rudget, you probably don't know me at all, I do a lot of vandalism patrol. Anyway, I've been looking at the vandalism level, and I would personally think that level1 would be warranted, but I think I should ask you. What do you think?
    talk
    ) 14:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I will re-elevate it for now, as it seems very obvious to me that the vandal level is very severe (I checked a few things to be sure). Just wanted to be sure you didnt object.
    talk
    ) 14:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Delete and

salt, please. This is this article's 6th reincaration. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk
18:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Protection rationale

I saw that you protected User talk:Oh wiki your so fine your so fine you blow my mind because “user and sockpuppet are vandalising page”. Would you mind sharing some of those edits? Both the vandalism and the sockpuppet edits would be helpful. — Knowledge Seeker 19:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the requesting editor may have misjudged the situation. I’m going to remove the protection for now. If you have links to the vandalism or other information I should be aware of, please let me know. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker 20:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
That was a single episode of vandalism from over two days ago. I do not think this demonstrates that "user and sockpuppet are vandalising page". Furthermore, if Adrian is vandalizing a page, then he should be blocked; protecting the page he is vandalizing doesn’t really make sense to me. Now if you’re suggesting that because his old username is under a username block, his talk page should be protected, that’s a different matter — one I didn’t see in the protection rationale nor made clear to Adrian. If you are going to protect it for that reason, I would suggest first placing a prominent notice at the top directing users to his new page. It’s quite an amusing name — blocked for length, not for inappropriateness — and other users may wish to contact him. — Knowledge Seeker 20:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I would like to request Cheapshot's Sucka Breaks be un-deleted. It's a notable release, by a notable group, and it was put up for deletion by User:Cosprings, who has been vandalising pages associated with Styles of Beyond. I've had to revert multiple things he's done, along witht he fact he's hosting illegal torrents on his page. Jay (talk) 19:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, the page was encyclopedic, however, I am willing to restore it if by doing so you can improve the article and negotiate content on the talk page before any promotional content etcetera. is added. Rudget. 20:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I don't have any more info to improve it at the moment, but I've actually purchased the vinyl, and once I get it, I can supply the article with more information, such as track times/names/a scan of it for the picture, and whatever else it supplies me with. But yeah, that sounds good. Thanks a lot for your help. Jay (talk) 20:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I'm sure you'll do fine. Rudget. 20:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

76.250.184.110 is back again and adding imeem links to the article. Would you mind blocking? Thanks. -- Naerii · plz create stuff 20:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for your support. - J Greb (talk) 22:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The G3 speedy tag I placed on the article covers blatant hoaxes. This article is most definitely a blatant hoax. There is no reason why the article should survive a speedy it does not deserve to survive merely because there is an AfD in progress. DarkAudit (talk) 00:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

My other account was User:Titlebaumnow, but I lost the password. You deleted

seventh season of American Idol, worked at the club in 2004." That seems like importance/significance. Please restore the article. Thanks! -- Fredgremlint. —Preceding comment
was added at 04:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks you

Very much for the AWB thing. You may be surprised to know that it's not the first time I've been confused for a bot. Thanks again.--ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk | Contribs) 10:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh it's something I look back on very fondly. Especially since it's the first actual message I ever received from someone (third section down). It actually started at AN/I. I Didn't even know what AN/I was at the time. --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk | Contribs) 11:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea, those were the good ole days, when fighting vandalism was more personal. Recent Changes in one tab, the list of warning templates in the another. I made my first thousand or so vandal fighting edits that way. Kids these days have it too easy. --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk | Contribs) 11:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Riana's request for bureaucratship

Dear Rudget, thank you for taking part in my RfB. As you may know, it was not passed by bureaucrats.
I would, however, like to thank you for taking the time to voice your support, despite concerns cited by the opposition. Although RfA/B isn't really about a person, but more about the community, I was deeply touched and honoured by the outpouring of support and interest in the discussion. I can only hope that you don't feel your opinion was not considered enough - bureaucrats have to give everyone's thoughts weight.
I also hope that the results of this RfB lead to some change in the way we approach RfBs, and some thought about whether long-entrenched standards are a good thing in our growing and increasingly heterogenous community.
I remain eager to serve you as an administrator and as an editor. If at any point you see something problematic in my actions, please do not hesitate to call me out. ~ Riana 12:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I did it now. So in effect, my company just paid me to do this :o) Your co-nom is awaited. Will you tell DEA when you've finished so DEA can transclude it and restart the clock etc? ➨ REDVEЯS is a satellite and will be set alight 12:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

 Doing... - thanks for informing me. Rudget. 12:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 Done Rudget. 12:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Jimfbleak (talk) 13:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Request

Thanks for the reply, I'll look into it. Solestin (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Question

It's gonna help me how exactly?

talk
) 16:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

sure.
talk
) 16:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

This article

Your comment in the deletion log seems to suggest that you deleted it because an author requested its deletion. I (and others) also had contributed to the article and I want it restored. Its surprising that you didnt think it fit to ask the editor to take it to AfD if he wanted it deleted. The article which User:Knowledge Hegemony had authored had problems of {{

undue and {{POV}} and I'd painstakingly worked on fixing it. I was working my way through the article and was more or less done with the lead. Please restore the article and ask the editor to take it to AfD instead. Thanks. Sarvagnya
18:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I had read the article (though not contributed to it) and thought it to be quite well developed and cited; although as Sarvagnya points out it (like almost any wikipedia article) could be improved. I too would request you to restore the article. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 22:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I just realized that User:Knowledge Hegemony has possibly retired. Unfortunately, his email is disabled so we cannot ask him the reasons for his deletion request and retirement.
Anyway, since
  • AFAIK there are no privacy concerns,
  • the content is GFDL (and it would be a licensing violation to recreate the article based on a cached copy),
  • User:Sarvagnya and others (?) contributed to the article, and
  • it would have certainly survived an AFD
I think we have enough reasons for its restoration. Abecedare (talk) 23:05, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA

Jimfbleak is going to be nominating me for RfA soon. (It says he did already, but it's a link to my old RfA.) When he does that, would you mind being a co-nom? It would be very helpful. Thanks. Undeath (talk) 21:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Report request

Hi Rudget, I'd like to request a WikiProject report on

WT:VG. Cheers, JACOPLANE
• 2008-03-13 23:13

I second this request :)
H2O
) 08:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA - Discospinster

Thank you so much for your support in my RfA, which was successful with a final count of 70/1/1! ... discospinster talk 23:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank-you

I can has mop?
I can has mop?
Hi Rudget :)! Thank-you for the wonderful comments.
I hope I can perform in the role of an admin to a standard that truly validates
your co-nomination in my RfA and everyone else's support (91/1/1).
Seraphim♥ Whipp 11:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

User talk:121.220.221.159

LOL. I think I'm one step behind you. I thought I was reverting that IP's vandalism and adding messages to the talk page. Then I go back to the article and see that I actually didn't revert it, but you did, but my warning still went through. Go figure. I was only checking their other edits, I'm not following you, I swear...  :) Jauerbackdude?/dude. 13:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

userpage

"...where me and a few other administrators close cases..." Hmm... "me" → "I"?? (and no, I'm not a grammar freak ;))--PeaceNT (talk) 15:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA - Toddst1

Hi Rudget, thanks for supporting my RfA, which passed with 42 supports, 0 opposes, and 0 neutrals. I'm pleased that the Wikipedia community has trusted me with the mop and I take it very seriously. Of course, special thanks goes to my nominator, Kakofonous. I also appreciate the congratulations. Cheers! Toddst1 (talk) 15:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Resilience (network)

Hi, sorry about the unintentional copyvio. Am currently splitting the portmanteau page that was at Resilience. I guess isolating the network section in a new page brought it to the bot's attention. Anyway, I've changed the copy. Please drop me a note if I should do anything else. --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

My apologies for the delay I've been busy and gone for a few days. Thanks for participating in the RfA, you did bring up some valid points which I'm keeping in mind going forward. No hard feelings and I'm always open to comments about my admin work. Sincerely – Zedla (talk) 02:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support!

Hello, and thanks for your support in my recent RFA! The final result was 61/0/3, so I've been issued the mop! I'm extremely grateful for your confidence in me and will strive to live up to it. Thanks again! —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Report request

Hi Rudget, I'd like to request a WikiProject report on

WT:VG. Cheers, JACOPLANE
• 2008-03-13 23:13

I second this request :)
H2O
) 08:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I've already got next week's slot booked for the Tropical Cyclones Project. Does the 24th sound alright? Rudget. 11:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds great! How do we proceed? JACOPLANE • 2008-03-15 21:13

A&R

Thanks for the block on this one, but shouldn't the Crazed Hits link also be deleted. Please see my comment on the discussion page. --Richhoncho (talk) 21:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Talk page undeletion

Thanks for restoring

February 2008 attacks on North Indians in Maharashtra. Can you also restore its talk page, which may have some useful discussion. Cheers. Abecedare (talk
) 02:51, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

 Done Rudget. 10:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I didn't realize that the talk page was essentially blank or I wouldn't have bothered asking for its undeletion. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 22:57, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

STARS methodology page deletion

Hello Rudget, I would like to respond to the allegation that Isabel de Pablo is a sock puppet and the reason you gave for deleting the STARS Methodology page. First I wish to clearly state that I only have one account and I use my real name. If you check the IP addresses you will see that I live in Switzerland. Secondly Isabel de Pablo is a real person living in Spain (again please check IP addresses) who is a user of the methodology and wrote the page. She approached me to write about STARS and naturally I am pleased she did this. She is not (and never has been) an agent or paid by me in any way. She used openly available information, including my web site GNU Free Document License pages, and articles published in the American Society for Quality magazine, which they independently verify and edit to ensure accuracy. The ASQ have trust that STARS is a serious methodology and I believe the publication by ASQ meets Wikipedia's requirements for proper reference sources. I would therefore politely support Isabel's request that the page be reinstated, and welcome your help.Hanvanloon (talk) 14:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Here the page content when it was deleted. It is clearly promotional and does not encourage or account for the NPOV guideline here on en.wp. What is the sockpuppetry situation? I don't recall being involved in any such discussion. Rudget. 16:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply and for sending the link to the deleted page. According to the Wikipedia NPOV policy as I understand it, the article must be written as far as possible without bias, contain all significant views that have been published by reliable sources. Is this a correct interpretation? Under this NPOV policy, is the American Society for Quality (ASQ) considered to be a reliable source? It is one of the major (if not the ultimate) quality management organizations in the USA. If it is a reliable source, then surely the article meets the NPOV requirements? What should otherwise be altered in the article to meet the NPOV requirements? I am sure that Isabel would like to know and comply with these requirements.--Hanvanloon (talk) 18:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Afternoon...

...so, a month in, and I'm starting to look to stretch my horizons a bit. I'm fine on blocking and unblocking of all varieties, protection, reviewing blocks, deletion and restoration, and have dipped my foot into

WP:SSP as there seems to be a constant backlog. Any suggestions where I could look to move into next? GBT/C
16:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

There's always ANI and AN :) Rudget. 16:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Got 'em both watchlisted, and contribute where relevant. I was thinking of a more janitorial area which needs admin attention, but as it's not so glamorous, quick, easy, or whatever, doesn't get the amount of attention it deserves. Any ideas? GBT/C 16:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Erm... let me try and find something... :D Rudget. 16:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
There's a few places I can think of, but they don't really need administrators, just good users and good judgement:
WP:AC to train to become a clerk, but that takes a long time... Rudget.
16:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you - will have a look and see where I can be of help! GBT/C 16:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I can't believe it's been a month! It's gone mighty quick. I'm trying to focus on article work now though, and still help out at
WP:FPOC. I find it quite relaxing and an very enjoyable experience. Rudget.
16:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

AC

Yup, I'm still up for it. Unfortunately I am buried in tons of coursework at the moment so it will have to wait a few days. I hope you understand. :) αѕєηιηє t/c 17:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Vote withdrawal

Just out of interest but why did you withdraw your vote at the rfa of geni? --Camaeron (talk) 17:08, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

See my neutral. Rudget. 17:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok ; p --Camaeron (talk) 18:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Cool

Loving the box at the top of your user page (that Contributions, Userboxes, Awards and Other bit, incase you've no idea what im on about). It keeps everything very neat, how did you make it? --Camaeron (talk) 18:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Look at the source of User:Rudget/header-up, then you can say "ahh, I see what you did there" :) JACOPLANE • 2008-03-16 23:04

I actually meant the one on his userpage! --Camaeron (talk) 18:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Why did you delete the article for copyright violation when that had been at least edited out of the current version? Now it can just go back up and have to go through an AfD again, rather than establishing notability or not, quickly, this time. In addition this encourages editors to simply leave copyvios sitting up on Wikipedia, because they'll eventually be deleted.... This is irresponsible. The copyright violation should have been edited into the history, as I did, then administratively removed, and the AfD continued. Wikipedia does not take problems seriously, like copyright violations, and inaccuracies, so they keep occurring. It's tiresome seeing Wikipedia articles appear at the top of search engine results, articles that are inaccurate, copyright violations, worthless. Editors and administrators need to take this seriously and be responsible. I can predict your "'outraged Wikipedian' than 'anybody' would speak to" you response, so no need to. --69.226.108.255 (talk) 21:16, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks

Thanks for the support
Thanks for your support on my request for adminship, which passed 92/2/2. Heh, I wasn't sure where to post my thanks, but here works. I'll be sure to learn the ways of the mop, and I'll live up to the expectations of the community. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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Daniel Boey

Thank you for your response. Is there anything I can do to stop this constant deletion/recreation by these multiple admins? Its really getting out of hand.

Thanks Succisa75 (talk) 18:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Cab gmbh deleted

Hi, ma page was a description of the company CAB. It was not a SPAM or a COI, i readed wiki articles about that. I did exactly the same as ZEBRA for exemple : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_Technologies Could i know the reason ? thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ludovic19 (talkcontribs) 17:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The rationale for deletion is obvious

Please read more here:

talk
) 17:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if I misunderstood. Thanks for your help. Nightscream (talk) 18:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

...

τ ʃ
18:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

You've been blocked

Hahaha, yeah I just happened to catch it on the watchlist each time, lol, and here's your own funny header :P

) 18:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Dont worry

Don't worry I created my own wierd but wonderful navigation! Thanks anyway though and Keep up the good work in the Rfa department ; ) --Camaeron (talk) 18:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your kind comment and award. I will transfer it to My awards page, I have been so looking forward to one of these! Thanks!! --Camaeron (talk) 18:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Protection Request

With all due respect, I STRONGLY suggest that you reconsider your decision to decline my protection request on Todd Schnitt, MJ Morning Show, and Bubba the Love Sponge. If you were to review the edit histories in closer detail, you will noticed that - particularly on the Todd Schnitt article - there is an established pattern of IP vandalism. Reviewing those edits, it is apparent that the edits are coming from listeners of Bubba the Love Sponge, as it has appeared to be his personal goal since returning to terrestrial radio to make MJ's life "a living hell." He frequently talks about MJ on the air and the lawsuit that was filed today is likely to result in not only his on-air discussions of MJ increasing, but also an increase in his fans hitting all of the articles involved and "cheerleading."

Respectfully, --

talk
) 18:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

copyright violation ?

hi, Today I created my first page, which you just seem to have deleted due a blatant copyright infringement.. I noticed that the bot had found a webpage with the same text as the newly created page, so I followed the 'what to do now' and stated in the 'talk page' on the newly created page that there was no copyright infringment because the site in question borrowed this text from the original source (which I mentionned)..

hmm this sounds confusing.. so I created a page about a 'Who's Who' with the text that accompagnies the online version, but another website also has used this original text and now the bot suggested that I took the text from this third website, but in fact it is the other way, so this isn't a blatant copyright infringement imo, so can this page be restored ?

18:18, 18 March 2008 Rudget (Talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Who is Who in African Art" ‎ (CSD G8 - talk page of a deleted page)

18:18, 18 March 2008 Rudget (Talk | contribs) deleted "Who is Who in African Art" ‎ (G12: Blatant copyright infringement: http://www.buyafricanantiques.com/whoiswho.htm)


--Bruno.Claessens (talk) 21:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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Withington

With all due respect, I fail to see what is "incorrect" about my changes, so please do tell me.

  • The dialling codes are certainly not incorrect (I can provide citation for this). They may not be consistent with other GM articles, but that doesn't make them wrong, and I am willing to make this case at
    WP:GM
    if necessary.
  • Concerning the student population of Withington, your original lead-in is, in my view, potentially misleading as it could easily be interpreted as stating that the area is predominantly inhabited by students; whilst there is a sizeable student population, this phrasing overlooks (by failing to mention) the sizeable other demographics. My re-wording is both clearer and more consistent with the h2hg citation which you originally provided in the Transport section - quite bizarrely actually, as that point didn't really have much to do with transportation hence the reason I moved it. I also think that it is generally pretty bad form to remove a useful citation simply because you don't like the wording; citations re-enforce the authority of an article - admittedly h2g2 isn't the best source, but the point still stands.
  • With regards to the Parliamentary Constituency matter, I feel that Withington the constituency and Withington the village are two substantially different topics, both in terms of subject matter and as geographical area (the boundaries are substantially different for a start); this point is quite clearly established by the fact that there have been two separate articles for the two separate topics for quite some time. Your original wording begins the article with Withington is a village and parliamentary constituency [...] - this could quite easily be taken to imply that the article intends to cover both subjects rather than being concerned primarily with the former and simply touching on the latter; whilst you do make a link to
    Parliamentary constituency
    article and completely overlook the fact that there is a separate article on this particular constituency. If you honestly believe that the Withington article ought to cover both topics - I for one don't - then I suggest starting a debate on the matter by proposing an article merger, rather than what appears to be a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters between the two through ambiguous wording! My rephrasing emphasised the differences between the two separate articles and made the fact that Withington was merely one of many towns in the Manchester Withington constituency much clearer!
  • Finally, since your reversion, you have also added an additional point that the UoM and MMU combined have the largest UK student population. Not only is this point completely meaningless (for instance you could try to claim that all the London Universities combined have the largest student population in the UK or for that matter that all the universities in England combined have the largest student population in the UK!), but it also overlooks the point that UoM by itself has the largest population of any single campus university, a far more meaningful statement.

So yes, please tell me exactly what I have changed that is "incorrect". I appreciate your improvements to this article which are for the most part constructive and highly beneficial, but you have to realise - admin or not - that good articles come from constructive collaboration rather than reverting changes at a whim because you don't like them or because they deviate from previous standards even if those standards might be questionable and could be open to constructive debate. Otherwise you could be be accused of bloody-mindedness, which I am sure is not the case.

I am now going to revert your reversion in the hope that instead you'll raise your points for public debate in the appropriate article or wikiproject discussion pages, so as to reach a more reasoned consensus and hopefully also bring other opinions and interest into this article.

-- Fursday 20:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I did not revert most of your changes, I just made the changes to the lead-in and a couple of other points for the reasons I stated above. Besides which you were the one who started with the blanket revert - which was kind of my entire point!
I am very pleased and grateful for your contributions to this article in general - perhaps I should have emphasised this more; I share in your aim to improve the articles quality, and by absolutely no means whatsoever do I want to dissuade you from your continuation! Blanket reverts - at least those without prior discussion - can come over a bit heavy-handed and are likely to ruffle people's feathers! Especially if you're reverting many different changes for different reasons all in one go. You must admit that I did have at least a valid argument w.r.t. the above and I'd rather have an argument about the changes than a revert-war, which is what this boils down to.
Regarding the dialling codes, you may well be right that this goes against established style, and in that context please do revert them and let me argue the case in the appropriate channels.
-- Fursday 16:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Advice

Can you tell me if I was right to investigate and follow up on [15] this edit made by ShieldDane? I don't want to spark the whole situation off again! Igniateff (talk) 11:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

He creates his account the day the other account was banned. And he is drawn to dead topic where he feels he needs to put in his two cents? Not to mention he tells me to stop 'trolling' that page, when it's obvious after my 'owned' I had no further interest in posting there. Was I right? Was I wrong? Perhaps a little of both, but i feel the spirit in which he interceded is wrong, and more than that I suspect he isn't who he would claim to be. ShieldDane (talk) 06:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ani#Igniateff_is_Joshuarooney —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShieldDane (talkcontribs) 12:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Resolved
 – Notifier has already re-created it. Rudget. 16:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that you deleted this article do to copyright infringement however the information contained on the article was not subject to copyright laws and is available as free information from the government. If you check the reference that was on the article it will lead you to a

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Portal promotions

Hello. Are you aware that the bot updates the talk page and adds the featured portal star? Gimmetrow 16:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

What is the IE you stated on the FPOC page? Ultra! 17:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Internet Explorer. It may just be my one. :P Rudget. 17:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

List of Doctor Who serials

Thanks again; I fear I may have to come back soon. As I said on the page's talk, it's been a lovely three months with semi, then yesterday it all started again!! And as the new series starts in a fortnight, people are more anxious to add rubbish than ever... I'm afraid you'll have to expect me coming asking for reprotection :-( TreasuryTagtc 17:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, very good, thanks! TreasuryTagtc 17:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

...is requesting a review of their block from you in particular. Thought I'd let you know. GBT/C 06:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for the rollback granting — wow, you're fast! Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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STARS Methodology - Reliable source

Hello again, I did not see any response on whether you consider the American Society for Quality to be a reliable source that meets the requirement for NPOV. Could you please advise? --Hanvanloon (talk) 19:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure that you know the editorial policy of the American Society for Quality (ASQ). Every article is first reviewed by a minimum of two people (sometimes 3) to decide whether the article is a serious, factually accurate item and of interest to its readers. For articles they accept, there then follows an intense editing regime, the editor works closely with the author. Finally it is reviewed again by another reviewer and any additional edits made. This is a very rigorous process. It takes at least 6 months from submission to publication. It is why I believe quoting any article published by them is a reliable source and meets the
WP:NPOV criteria. That is why I find Daniel Penfield's attitude to be enormously offensive. I tried to have a reasonable discussion with him but he just used policies as hammers, and has changed his position/interpretation several times as well as taking actions that I have to interpret as breach of the WP policies he has thrown at me. While I am not a long term contributor to Wikipedia and acknowledge I have made some mistakes in my early editing, it is people like him that make me questions whether I should just give up and pull all my contributions back. --Hanvanloon (talk
) 18:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
The source isn't the reason why the page was deleted, so focusing on that will no re-instate the page. As the page can be seen by non-admins at User:Rudget/STARS methodology - it is clear that the pages intention is to promote. Also, can I ask again why sockpuppetry was mentioned in your first query here, you don't seem to have written any more regarding that issue, which is more important than restoring the page, IMO. Rudget. 16:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi again, in my work I only get occasional times in the evening to write. To answer your comments in order. 1. The page is promoting a methodology that is available under GNU Free document license and considered serious enough for ASQ to publish. A quick search under STARS gives a page: S.T.A.R.S. Members (Resident Evil), would you consider this as promotional? Another page from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star - goes to http://science.howstuffworks.com/star1.htm, this page definitely promotes and runs advertisements!! I guess this confuses me, why don't editors delete these links, they seem far worse to me than another editor (Isabel de Pablo) linking to a GNU Free doc licensed page without advertisements. --Hanvanloon (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
2. I reread the user talk page of Isabel de Pablo and found that it was Daniel Penfield made the allegation of commercial interest as the reason to delete the page, i.e. he implied that she was a sockpuppet. She has actually responded to this on her talk page but there has been no reply to her (which I think is rather poor). Reading what she wrote, I think she considers restoring the page to more important than the sockpuppetry issue. Furthermore Penfield clearly wrote this to Helixweb who restored a PDCA text section without any links --Hanvanloon (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)--
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[(13:39, 17 March 2008 DanielPenfield (Talk | contribs) (1,664 bytes) (+WTF) (undo)) "Some of the content looked okay from my first quick glance." You never directly answered the question posed in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AHelixweb&diff=198819168&oldid=198645301 . Am I to assume you're sweeping it under the carpet?
Yes, I am. Helixweb (talk) 16:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
What's the point in having a WP:SPAM policy if you're just going to roll over when a spammer complains that vigilant editors have removed his website/publications for sale from articles after repeated warnings? What's the point in having a WP:NOR policy if you're just going to give in when a crackpot complains when his pet theory is challenged? What's the point in having a WP:COI policy if you're going to look the other way when a spammer complains when sham articles set up by his crony/sockpuppet/shill account are deleted per Wikipedia policy (viz., Wikipedia:Proposed deletion).
It appears you're misinterpreting my comments. I never said not to remove his website, his NOR or his created articles. I said you need to calm down a bit, which I think given your tone towards me, is an entirely warranted criticism. Remember to be CIVIL at all times. This scorched-earth policy of yours to undo every single one of his edits is proof that you are NOT taking the high ground, and will likely antagonize him further. You would be a much better editor if you read WP:Civil a couple more times. Helixweb (talk) 16:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC).]
BTW, is there a standard way to quote/mark these extractions? As you have previously stated on your user page that you are involved in the sockpuppet submission board I can see how Penfield's allegations would trigger a rapid deletion. So apologies if I was not clear in separating the two components of the sockpuppetry and subsequent page deletion. To further inform you why I think this is a vendetta rather than unbiased editing, here is a further exchange between Penfield and Helixweb.--Hanvanloon (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
From what I've seen you've undid many of his edits to his own talk page, which I believe is bad form. Helixweb (talk) 16:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)] --
I have added the talk page reference for you if you wish to go there directly to make sure I am not making this up.--Hanvanloon (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I have admitted to making some mistakes when initially editing (i.e. doing it anonymously). BTW, Penfield did this too at times. At no time did I reference web site pages that try to sell anything from the pages I wrote (Quality Management, PDCA), the links are to GNU Free document license information pages about PDCA, the methodology, ISO15504 info, etc. This was in fact better than several external links that existed on the PDCA page when I first edited it (and that occurs on many other pages too). So (maybe incorrectly) I did the same. I have not even made any external links for several months. Penfield has kept external web site links that actually DO try to sell things (from PDCA link to ASQ page - they sell their Quality Toolbox at the bottom of their PDCA page). So while he likes to quote policies, he is at best inconsistent in applying them, at worst he is acting as Helixweb notes (scorched-earth approach). In fact I tried to engage him in an equitable discussion about these points some time ago but he edited my page, so I gave up. --Hanvanloon (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I tried to contact the lady who wrote the STARS methodology page, but she appears to be unreachable at the moment. I noted before that if you perform an IP address check it will show that I cannot be this person. If it helps, I can try to get into contact with her and arrange a three way discussion so that it is absolutely clear that she is not me.--Hanvanloon (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for the long discussion but I feel that it is easy for Penfield to accuse me and harder for me to defend myself. My perception is that being a loud critic is far easier than being a content editor. I appreciate your time to read and respond. --Hanvanloon (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Since I believe your main aim is to restore the article, I am declining mainly because of the deletion I carried out and per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 March 16, where five editors endorsed the deletion. Regards, Rudget. 11:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Adminship

I know, sorry about that. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, well thank you for thinking of me as a great editor, but I'm sorta nervous with answering the questions and all. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

my RFA

Thank you!

Thank you for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (73/3/1), so I am now an

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re: Hanvanloon

Could you please explain the problem with username User:Hanvanloon? I understand in general the reasons for a username block but I don't see the specific problem in this case. The block log explains a COI regarding the STARS methodology but I don't understand how a COI relates to a username problem. In any event the user has chosen a new name and has requested an unblock. Thanks. Sbowers3 (talk) 18:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Ping

Get into IRC, plz. FYI, I'm in ##RudgetKnight. Maxim(talk) 14:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 Done Rudget. 14:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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