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I saw you proposed this for deletion. I was able to locate its tehsil and district, but nothing more. Sources on Google are sketchy. Anyway, I tried. Bearian (talk) 04:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
I had to trough (pardon the pun) through a ton of garbage to find a few reliable sources, translated them badly, added them to the article, and removed your proposed deletion tag. Can you please take a look at the current version before going to AfD to see if it's
]- @Bearian - Thanks for your improvements to the article. I changed from Class-Stub to Start assessment. Cheers! JoeNMLC (talk) 00:46, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
Did you see that there is a Cebuano language article? Yes, I know the whole story ... just covering all bases, so to speak. Bearian (talk) 00:16, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
I found multiple media reports about this neighborhood in the Indian media. I'm taking the coverage with a grain of salt because 1) the media there is garbage and the sources are deprecated; 2) the coverage is heavily slanted and caste-biased, and I think the situation has a murders and/or suicides in the slum "deaths under mysterious circumstances", and "will someone please think of the children!"
All that having been said, this stub is in fact sourced, so I removed your proposal for deleting (de-prodding) and the unref tag. What do you think? (About my rescue, not the children of the slum, nor the creepy parallel.) Bearian (talk) 02:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bearian - Thanks for your improvements to the article. I changed from Class-Stub to Start assessment. Cheers! JoeNMLC (talk) 14:44, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
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I deprodded your prod, but please don't take it personally. There are so many unreferenced Indian and Iranian Geo stubs! We are going to have to live with them with primary sources, because (1) the media in those countries are unreliable and (2) that's all we can work with. The poor admins are overwhelmed with the sheer volume of prods to triage; see User_talk:PharyngealImplosive7. Tagging Liz. Bearian (talk) 05:43, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Bearian - Thanks, I have my own (diy) Prod tracking to follow up on articles. I did read about the overload mentioned at User_talk:PharyngealImplosive7, so Yes, I will go back to my "three articles Prod" as I do like triangles. In the past, I did submit a few articles at "AfD". But for me there are two frustrations: first, the multi-step procedure (it does work); and second, the long time awaiting for a conclusion. I just don't have the patience & that's on me. I do like the 7-day time frame for Prod. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 17:48, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
Deprodding of Taking Over (EP)
Hi. Just letting you know that I recently objected to your proposed deletion of
- @Lenny Marks - thanks for the Merge info. For me the issues with merging are: the merge complexity, and not being able to find a reliable source for citation. Before I tag any article with Prod, I do search for sources, check article's Talk for correct WikiProjects so when prod is done, that will show in the WPs daily activity log & be seen by many more people. FYI, I do maintain a PROD/AfD tracking here. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 20:04, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @wp:General Notability Guidelines like it does to avoid deletion because it is not a stand alone article. It is enough to find one reliable source to satisfy wp:Verifiability. -- Lenny Marks (talk) 21:49, 17 February 2025 (UTC)]
- @
PRODs of settlements
Hi Joe: you PROD a lot of places but your standard PROD reason - "No significant coverage of the village in independent reliable sources to establish notability." - is incorrect for settlements, which are not covered by GNG and don't require significant coverage in independent reliable sources to establish notability, but by
- @WP:GEOLAND? I have been doing a Before search on those & unable to find reliable sources. Cheers, JoeNMLC (talk) 15:37, 15 February 2025 (UTC)]
- Hi Joe - I don't think you need to do anything at all to those already PRODded - no-one else seems to see any problem, so perhaps I am being unnecessarily picky! The underlying difficulty is lack of sources, which you are correctly identifying - it is just the level of sourcing that was concerning me, in that settlements need far fewer: an Indian village, for example, can get by on an entry in a census or a listing as part of a higher admin unit for legal recognition and a description as a village in a news story or some other publication for confirmation as a settlement - and as you know well, many of them can't even manage that. Going forward, the wording of the PROD reason you suggest seems absolutely fine to me. Thanks for your understanding. Best wishes, Ingratis (talk) 22:48, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
Question on rating
Hello JoeNMLC, I hope you are doing great. I wanted to ask a question regarding the rating of an article I created.
A few weeks ago, the article Acesander's cup was rated C; I know rating isn't anything particularly important but I'd be interested to know, what exactly would it take for this article to be rated higher, at least B? The reason I'm asking is because some of my previous articles (such as Pydna curse tablets, Akanthos curse tablet, Land of dreams (mythology) etc.) were unexpectedly rated B and, while I always put effort in my articles, I was particularly determined for this one to become B-rated too:
In particular, the sources I used are
I'm sorry for the long text and thank you in advance. Piccco (talk) 21:37, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Piccco - Check out this class-b specific information.
- If interested, there is a WikProject:
- In addition, some articles are improved beyond B-class, and can be submitted for Good-article (GA) review:
- While not an expert, I've always had an interest in World History & later on archaeology, especially biblical archaeology. Even though I've never been personally to a dig site, I find it a great wonder at the discoveries that continue even to this day.
- Lastly, it is possible to submit an article assesment request here. A second set of eyes to review an article. I stumbled upon this "secret" spot a while ago & visit occasionally, mostly for maintenance purposes.
- Cheers, JoeNMLC (talk) 17:12, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your fast and informative response. I will keep those links in mind to check them out some time soon. Thank you again! Piccco (talk) 17:48, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
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Small-numbers game
Would your head explode if I redirected this to oligopoly? Bearian (talk) 09:46, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Bearian - not at all. One of the "side-benefits" of Prod is articles that can be updated, redirected or merged. This topic is 100% outside my wheelhouse, so thank you. Cheers! JoeNMLC (talk) 14:43, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Done. Bearian (talk) 14:45, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
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Long stubs
I have previously reviewed 1-500. 10-500 likely need Category:Long stubs with short prose applied. I am working on 500+. I'll post an update and let you know how fare I've gotten. ~Kvng (talk) 22:49, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Done through 559. Category:Long stubs with short prose applied as appropriate 1-9 and 500-559. ~Kvng (talk) 22:59, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Done through 599 ~Kvng (talk) 19:15, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Kvng - Progress: Done = 10 to 100 for now. Will wait for Wednesday bot run to complete, to check results. JoeNMLC (talk) 21:37, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- I haven't changed the search script to exclude Category:Long stubs with short prose. Until that's done, there will be no interesting results to check. ~Kvng (talk) 22:03, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- Progress: Done today, up to #150. JoeNMLC (talk) 21:34, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- I haven't changed the search script to exclude Category:Long stubs with short prose. Until that's done, there will be no interesting results to check. ~Kvng (talk) 22:03, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Kvng - Progress: Done = 10 to 100 for now. Will wait for Wednesday bot run to complete, to check results. JoeNMLC (talk) 21:37, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Luigi's Doghouse
Wouldn't deletion of a popular comedian's first LP be controversial? Bearian (talk) 12:04, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Bearian - Any chance for someone to merge/move into Jim_Gaffigan Discography article? Outside my wheelhouse. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 15:31, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- I see that section has a new source. I'm hesitant to do anything, because it's also outside my wheelhouse, and ]
West Virginia Basic Skills Computer Program
I redirected this to West Virginia Department of Education as ATD. Bearian (talk) 06:50, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
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Hi Admin
can you move this to main article space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Santhosh_Kumar Thank you! KnowledgeCrafters (talk) 20:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Not done - @KnowledgeCrafters, I am not an Admin; and not qualified to assess the biography. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 20:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
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I deprodded this in the (vain?) hope that WikiProject Ukraine can save it, but feel free to take the issue to
]Boston Female Liberation page
Hi Joe,
I saw you noted that the Boston Female Liberation page is an "orphan." I am trying to add links to other pages but I need some help as to how to do that. For example, I would like to link the page to "The Second Wave" page.
Thanks. Liberationfemale (talk) 17:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Liberationfemale, see Wikipedia:Orphan for full "how-to" info. While I am not familiar with the topic, I formerly did a lot of de-orphaning until I was advised to stop. The article Boston Female Liberation is considered "Orphan" because it has no mentions (wikilinks) in other articles. Think of Wikipedia like a spider-web, inter-connected information. For the person reading about "Boston Female Liberation", when they click on "Special pages", then choose "What links here", it shows all articles where "Boston Female Liberation" is listed. So to de-orphan, add a link TO BFL article in one or more related articles. Cheers! JoeNMLC (talk) 18:45, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Joe. However, I am not sure how to add a link to BFL article in a related article.
- Please advise as I am new to this. Liberationfemale (talk) 20:28, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- @WP:LINK. In addition, the folks over at Teahouse are helpful for answering questions. Best, JoeNMLC (talk) 20:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)]
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I redirected this stub you proposed for deletion to its alliance, as an ATD. Bearian (talk) 00:54, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Wikiproject Biography tagging
Hi there, thank you for all the good work you're doing! I just wanted to flag that for biograpical articles, ideally you should add |blp=no
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