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Hey Static, how's work going? Listen, since you're patrolling a significant number of articles, can you add
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You know, same old same old aha. Sure thing no problem, just another article to keep my eyes on. If it gets too bad, I won't hesitate to go to
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Lamar's album looks pretty good. If everything is properly referenced and if the prose is clearly written, there no reason why it shouldn't pass GA. As for
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Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. Indicud does have some reference issues and quote farm issues, I will probably get around to it when I stop creating new articles like everyday. No problem, I have been trying to watchlist more rock/metal albums recently rather than just hip hop subjects. The genre warring is just ridiculous when it comes to some articles, thats why I like that on hip hop albums/BLPs 90% of the time we just put
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The 20/20 Exp - 2 of 2
If you're going to warn me with the three-revert rule, you might as well warn Tomica as well. Tunnel12 (talk) 13:40, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Wrong, I didn't break it, you did only... — Tomíca(T2ME) 13:42, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
You're the one that keeps on reverting every edit I do even though they're not disruptive or vandalism. Tunnel12 (talk) 13:44, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Even if your edits are worthwhile, you're still not allowed to edit war. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I expected better from you Tomica, you had done two reverts, and now you most recent one was your third. If either of you continue to edit war on the article you will more than likely be blocked. Please take it to the article's talk page, rather then edit war in the lead.
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Shark Tale, IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes
Please do not remove IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes from articles, as you did with your edits to Shark Tale here and here. Having links to a film's IMDB and RT pages is standard in articles on films across Wikipedia. Reliability, as you mentioned in your summary of the second edit, does not apply, because links in the EL section are not citations.
WP:LINKFARM also does not apply, since that guideline cautions against excessive links, and not any and all of them. Nightscream (talk
) 17:33, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Generally we should not have over five external links as it becomes excessive (
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Sorry, I neglected to check as to whether RT was mentioned in Reception. Beyond that, I agree with you on IMDB's unreliability, esp the often poorly-written bio pages. I spent yesterday removing imdb links from a bunch of articles. Whether it's necessary to remove it from all EL sections, I don't know, but I don't know if I have strong feelings for or against that either way, so good luck. :-) Nightscream (talk) 18:00, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, of course I would not remove RT unless it was already mentioned there, and we already had a bunch of review aggregators already there. My exact reason for removing IMDb, but why would you tell me not to remove it, if you were also removing them yesterday? I think it is just completely unnecessary to link to user-generated content, that usually looks like a 12-year old wrote it.
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I removed them as citations, as I always do. I don't remove them as links listed in the EL section. Nightscream (talk) 00:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Ohhhh okay I misinterpreted you, sorry.
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A FairlyOddparents reversion
Hi STATic, I noticed this reversion and I was curious as to your rationale. I'm not critiquing or anything, just wondering if a 10th season had been ordered or something that warranted the inclusion of this somewhat barren table row. I could be missing something. Okay, thank you! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:50, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
I was just patrolling, I would probably not have reverted if the IP would have given any rational for the deletion, and there is nothing in the article to indicate the show is canceled or on hiatus. I was not aware that the show is currently in its 9th season until now, so if there is no source for it being renewed through a tenth season, then it should be removed.
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Grazie, grazie. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:52, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Mike Devoe
Yes can you please add my source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike devoe (talk • contribs) 00:23, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
No you have to provide it, and stop vandalizing the Juicy J and Miley Cyrus articles with false information. Using two accounts to do it, is not helping your cause either.
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Wikimedia
Hi STATic! I had a question about creating a Wiki page for an album. How exactly do you add album artwork to Wikimedia? It's been difficult for me to get one to stick to a page with all of the copyright issues. Thanks! Malcolmrevere (talk) 04:45, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
You could use this link like I do, it already has the fair-use template ready for you to fill out, just read it through and fill out the important fields, and make sure to follow what it says on the page and you should have no issue with uploading album/single covers.
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Tagged Contributions
Hi STATIc,
These are the article you tagged for speedy deletion (Exit discography, Nje (Exit Song), Project X EP), this is a new artist so I'm trying to put some articles together for him so he can have references. He also started his own record label Streetz Inc. Recordz and would like to start an article for that as well. I believe that I might have not followed the proper criteria with the creation of these articles, so if you may advice, I'll appreciate it.07:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThokozaniMiya (talk • contribs)
You should see
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Black Hippy
If you own an article, just announce it on the talk page. Your opinion is not an encyclopedia, so I am going to go with sources, particularly when what you suggested I read agrees with me. You said to read the supergroup article, but you foolishly failed to do so yourself. So cut the shit out.[1] And by shit, I mean citing what you haven't read, then creating a lame note that disagrees with what you just cited, then not discussing an issue on the talk page while asserting it is a major invisible issue. It probably is an issue if you don't bother to discuss it. --(AfadsBad (talk) 05:12, 5 October 2013 (UTC))
Cut out the false "ownership" claims, I responded on the talk page refuting all your points, also please watch your mouth, and attempt to
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You are the one who freaked out with a SCREAMING comment 'cause someone edited your article. Keep it. Goid riddance. --(AfadsBad (talk) 05:19, 5 October 2013 (UTC))
Hidden notes are usually written in caps, it is for emphasis so no one changes that small section of the article. Look at the source for the
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Juicy M
I undid the A7 tag on this as I felt there was at least one good source and others may be sitting on the end of a search, but I still don't really fancy its chances if it went to AfD, if I'm honest. Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 20:44, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
WWE Battleground 2
I saw that the match is on the official WWE website, so I put it here. How I can add a reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batbobi (talk • contribs) 17:10, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
See
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Pound Cake / Paris Morton Music 2
Hmmm... it's a tricky listing indeed. I've found an updated Music Week source listing an add date of September 30, 2013—my previous edit mistakenly listed the date as September 23, which I've found to be incorrect—which would place it after "All Me" in the singles chronology as the fourth single. Not entirely sure how the infobox should look, however—one thought that comes to mind is that there could be a single infobox for "Pound Cake" and a song infobox for "Paris Morton Music 2", though this may seem to clutter up the article. Holiday56 (talk) 06:43, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Not entirely familiar with UK radio classifications myself, but
urban contemporary radio station on its WP article (its playlist contains a large amount of hip-hop and R&B music), which makes me believe that this could be classified as an urban radio release. Holiday56 (talk
) 07:25, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your edit summary
Thanks for writing a detailed edit summary when reverting my edit to You're Next. Makes a big difference. I hope others follow your example when reverting edits. Gronky (talk) 21:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome, I obviously could see that you were removing it in good faith. I would trim it down myself, but movies are becoming too expensive to see in theaters all the time these days.
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AfD
As I stated on the AfD, I have no personal interest in the outcome. As far as whether I know nothing about music is concerned is very much open to debate. One of the refs is a direct link to a YouTube video - I went through all those refs TWICE, and in fact one of them crashed my browser. You have a comment on your edit notice above about civility - It would be nicer if you were to keep your civility hat on at both AfD and on my talk page whether you have 42,000 edits to your credit or not. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:35, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
I do not know what you are refering to? I have remained completely civil, and obviously I have to state my case in the best way on the AfD. The fact that I came to you personally out of respect for you being the one that salted it, when I could have asked any administrator, you should have taken more thought before nominating the article. As I said just because someone created a half-assed unreferenced article before, does not make the subject not notable. I pointed out the well-known reliable publications and reliable online sources that discussed the subject, and pointed to you the multiple points of
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Obviously we have different perceptions of civility. I operate best with people who remain friendly. I offered some advice on my talk page but you opted instead to make personal criticisms. If you don't know what I am referring to , perhaps you should review your discussion with me and the comment you left at the AfD where I have nominated the article for discussion, and I really do not have any interest in the outcome either way. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I was under the impression I was being more civil then you, but that is your opinion. Now you are just making false accusations, I did not make any personal attacks or criticisms in the slightest. Also AfD stands for Articles for Deletion, not as TfD stands for Templates for Discussion. The article was up for less then an hour before you nominated it, where you failed
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Well, let's start with my music experience: I've been a live performer, composer, and producer of many genres for over 40 years from classic to contemporary, and I've also contributed extensively to Wiki music articles; that said, subject knowledge is not a prerequisite for judging notability. Let's continue with WP:BEFORE and how I twice went through all those links - one was linked directly to YouTube, and how one of your links crashed my browser. Finally, I consider, as do many, that AfD being the place to use where doubts arise and CSD and PROD are not clear enough, that AfD is a fair place for a hearing, so if you are so sure that your article will survive, then you have nothing to be afraid of; and I'm certainly not afeared of being proven wrong - it's part of my job, and let's face it, nine deletions is enough to sow doubts.. That said, while I have a pretty good track record on deletions and AfD, nobody is perfect, not even on Wikipedia. We'll see, although AfD can be aleatory. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:28, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Well my apologies, but I assumed you did have knowledge of music, just not current popular music or specifically hip hop. Also just because the article contained one link to an official YouTube account (which again can be used), does not discredit the multiple reliable online news sources and major weekly/monthly publications. Maybe you should have watchlisted and gave other editors a week or so to improve it, before jumping straight to deletion. But in my opinion I easily see this passing, because the significant independent coverage in reliable sources is there.
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Critical response
The section is small as is and they they are usually much bigger i didn't know there was a limit on how big a section could be. They are small quotes from large reviews so i don't see the problem and why not wait till you actually nominate it and the reviewer tells you to shorten it. Koala15 (talk) 14:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
They are only exponentially large when you create them, which I do appreciate. But as I said in my edit summary, we are only supposed to take a sentence or two, not a paragraph or the whole review. As I pointed out
In context I would have immediately removed it too, I was not aware it was completely unsouced, and it definitely was a BLP violation. But as you now see, It was all true, we could have just gone without me having to undo your edit you know? I do not mean that comment in a rude or bad-faith way at all, there was not much a reason to be so abrasive about my comment.
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If you admit you would have removed it as well then why is it "always better to use maintenance templates"? You appear to have contradicted yourself. GiantSnowman 08:14, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Be
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Where have I been uncivil? I am merely questioning your rationale - you say you agree that the information should have been removed, yet you also say that the information should have been tagged with {{
cn}}? I am merely trying to understand where you are coming from so I can help you with BLP policy as you seem a bit confused. GiantSnowman
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I also note that this is not the first time that my attempt to help you has been dismissed. GiantSnowman 15:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I need no help with the BLP policy in the slightest, I already said when I left the edit summary I was unaware the entire section had been unreferenced. It was a templated message, of course I removed it, all it was is to notify me of a declined speedy deletion (I watchlist pages I nominate for anything BTW), what would the point be to keep it on my page, or why would that need to be archived?
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Of Curse Of Chucky...
I know I edited the Curse of Chucky, saying Andy killed Chucky once and for all, but I really hope that this is the final installment of Chucky. The reason why I say this is that, A) We don't need a reboot or remake/sequel after Curse of Chucky, as the ending with Andy finally finished him off and B) No more Chucky movies, as six is actually a pretty decent number of the franchise.
Do you think there should be more Chucky movies?
This one had the flashbacks to the first movie and actually explains what Chucky had to do to Nica, was to finish her off, but first he killed half of her relatives: Barb, Jill, Father Frank, and Ian. He also mentions the Barclays, Kincaids, and the Tillys, which referenced Child's Play 1, 2 & 3, Bride of Chucky & Seed Of Chucky. So I think this should be the final Chucky movie, because it sums up every chucky movie. Just no more Chucky movies in my opinion... :P
I have not seen it, but Wikipedia is not the place for your
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Acid rap
Hello, thanks for expressing your concerns on the cut-and-paste move and the Acid Rap article. To be fair, wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit so I would like to contribute as much as I can to make sure the information I see here is accurate. If you have any more concerns please express them on my talk page. Thanks again Ben0kto (talk) 02:34, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Static. Unfortunately I do not believe it is necessary to add the "(genre)" because rap in itself is a genre. However, I believe maybe it should be considered that
Acid Rap (album) like many other albums in parentheses on wikipedia. Ben0kto (talk
) 02:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for also informing me about the three-revert rule. Since I am relatively new to editing here, I am unaware of some of the policies and may have overlooked some important rules. I will continue to make edits in accordance with WP policy to the best of my ability. Cheers Ben0kto (talk) 03:21, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devil Shit (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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I saw that you did the other AfD, which closed before I could participate in it. There's a definite lack of notability there.
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Linkin Park
All the genres I add have many sources supporting them. So stop your false warnings, I will try to start another discussion on the genre part, but it still is a mater of source and as long as there are enough sources to support these genres, and also enough consensus made in the talk page on the genres to know that at least more than minority of people are agreeing with these genres, if not majority, I will continue putting these genres up. Cuz the page's current genre section is really a weak spot, missing some important and most sourced genres like Alt metal that Linkin Park was best known for it in late 90s, and missing the important major genre shift in Linkin Park's history. Anyways, I've done these things for many years and I know my way around here, so if you have
good intentions as you say so, stop these warnings and try to help on a discussion in the talk page or an RfC if it's needed to make the page more accurate and helping.Solinothe Wolf
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See
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If you had seen the talk page you had seen the opposite, in almost all the genre fights I had many sources and people just try to warn you when they don't see their opinion in the infobox. And in many of them my suggested genre is still up there after many years e.g KoRn and SOAD. You can check all these up on those cases if you're THAT interested about em to bring this up here!! And of course I can label you a genre warrior as well, cause all the genres I put up in LP infobox are highly sourced and also a lot of people agree on em according to LP's talk page history. In fact it seems more like the result on the page is more based on how editors like you try to keep it (
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And of course sorry I forgot to sign after I edited my message here. Solinothe Wolf 00:58, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Maybe that is because, just because they are sourced does not mean they should ALL be listed in the infobox, again see
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So I'm happy we're not talking about your opinion here, otherwise all the bands from The Beatles to Suicide Silence would be labeled as Rock and me or many other people couldn't find many of our favorite bands from Wikipedia by the genre section, like I have done for years! so far, there are no rules on how many genres can a band have in the infobox and if you think of it, when a band has a major change of directions, it's completely normal to have multiple genres in the infobox e.g.
So generous of you Solinothe Wolf 10:02, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Acid Rap
So as you've guessed, I've opened an ANI on this. I'm honestly frustrated on what to do with this editor. We've tried to explain things to him and he seems to be willfully intent on creating his article his way. I won't delete any further articles as I've officially reached the point where I'm too entangled. Hopefully this will end up resolved in a manner that satisfies everyone.
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I fully supported it and I am also not going to continue with this situation. I just wish more new users would discuss things out, it always works better that way. I mean it would be different if this subgenre actually was widely covered in reliable sources, but its not and to assert that it is the primary topic is baffling to me. That may be where the mixtape title came from, but the mixtape is clearly more notable and the more likley search term. At least we could have use a dab page for the
The moderator who wants to take it down isn't a rap expert like you are.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks. I know you know about Makaveli and All Eyez On Me significance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.202.226.136 (talk) 01:01, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Linkin Park
Thanks for the heads up. Sorry, I was tied up with work and other stuff. But I appreciate the notification :) -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 04:02, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
"Gone"
I see your point, but the listing may confuse readers into thinking that "Gone" was released in 2013. The table caption reads "List of songs, with selected chart positions, showing year released and album name", so putting 2013 as the year of release wouldn't be very accurate. As a compromise, I've added a footnote explaining that the song only charted in 2013—if you see any further issues with the listing, feel free to contact me. Cheers! Holiday56 (talk) 05:43, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
You deleted my page!
Dear Static,
You deleted my page!Why?
Everything what I wrote real information. Im a producer, songwriter, remixer from Hungary. I have 14 platinum album and 5 Gold album. Im a singned artist and producer at Mton Records (Warner Music & Kontor Records distributor in Hungary) and Sony Music Hungary and CLS (Sneakerz Records & Spinnin Records & Flamingo Records distributor in Hungary) . I can show you my contracts! I have more than 100 released OFFICIAL SONGS & OFFICIAL REMIXES in past 10 years in Hungary and Europe!!! I won The Funkerman automatic remix contest. I did OFFICIAL Songs for hungarian fameus artist and OFFICIAL remixes for Fedde le Grand, Cube Guys, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertowinny (talk • contribs) 11:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I did not delete it, it was deleted after a
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Charlie Wilson page
Hello Static, I believe the intention is to show the rappers and other musicians wanting to work with Charlie and that he is revered for his voice and contributions to their material. I am little confused why this is a problem in the page as there are literally hundreds of sources that make reference to this and it is a big part of his career and legacy. Maybe it can be re-written to a more neutral POV then? Confused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.165.188.104 (talk) 14:53, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
As I explained it is not written in a
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I understand the POV, but to be clear I am not "IP hopping" nor anybody that I know of. I actually noticed the an error in the chart set-up for the latest single today and went to correct it that is when I noticed the issue with the deletes and re-instatements and decided to look up some references to support as I thought it is something that is intrinsic to Charlie's career. I understand after reading it is redundant and will not argue it. I also appreciate the work we all do in keeping the page clean and professional but there is no need to accuse me or others of trying to sabotage or vandalize the page when I have no idea who or what IP's have been coming to the page. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.165.188.104 (talk) 15:18, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
My mistake, it is because an IP representing a company he is affiliated with has been jumping around IP address, and yours is in the exact same range. By the way I already fixed the singles table mistake.
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No prob Static I saw that you did that thank you. I did go back and re-read the section that you deleted about him speaking at events (STATicVerseatide (talk | contribs) at 21:09, 3 October 2013): "Today he continues to speak at events around the country, educating and encouraging men to get screened for the disease. He also supports the PCF through the sale of his signature fedora hats at his concerts and on his website at www.unclecharliewilson.com/shop." I do not see how this part is self promotion. It is a verified fact and what he does in life to give back and should be documented in the encylopedia. However, the second part you deleted I can understand "With music and his work to combat prostate cancer, Wilson has been able to sustain the passion and drive that have been hallmarks of his legendary career. “I’m still living this dream,” Wilson says. “I’m still going to the stage and I’m still having fun. I’m not there just to pick up the check. It’s about the passion and the respect that I have for the game. It keeps me going.” - I can see how the second part can read as a bio, but the first part should be re-instated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.165.188.104 (talk)
Not necessarily promoting himself, but there is clearly a link to his shop to buy his merchandise, which is very clear
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Okay I understand the shop link.. that should remain removed. But we should re-instate the "today..." With regard to the reliable source one can simply go to the PCF website or I can pull from the dozens of articles where it indicates he has spoken across the country. There was a section at the top of his page that even pulled from the PCF page about him speaking and that the PCF set up a huge yearly grant in Charlie's name. I remember it being at the top and not sure if it was removed by you or moved down in to the personal life section by someone else. Getting hard to keep up haha. Anyways, shall I pull some references and re-instate or is it better for you to just reinstate that part. No prob just let me know. 71.165.188.104 (talk) 19:52, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
If you have a
reliable third party source feel free to add that content back, that would be fine. STATicmessage me!
Just wanted to let you know that I brought up a merger/unmerge proposal on the article's talk page about whether or not to recreate the article for the musical genre. The problem I've had is that everything is a trivial mention at best when it comes to focusing solely on the genre. It's performed, but most discuss it as part of Esham and even then it's in passing.
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Yeah I saw that, I have the same opinion as you, there is no significant coverage in reliable sources outside of Esham. Without that there cannot be an article for it, let alone it be the primary topic of the
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Drake, Rapper (and yes, singer)
On a lot of Drake's songs, he is actually singing not rapping. You claim that this is covered by the term "recording artist", but following that logic, so is his rapping, but you're allowing him to be noted as a rapper but not a singer. Why the double standard? This is so petty, you're just going to continue this revert war to exhaustion aren't you? Whatever, man, you obviously care more about this than I do. Congratulations, you "won". Aoa8212 (talk) 14:10, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
I was not the one that added rapper in the first place, and come to think of it, it should also not be there because "recording artist" covers it. Yes I know he is obviously a singer, but you really should not revert without even giving a reason.
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Regarding subgenres
I don't mean to
pick at your personal wording choice, but PLEASE stop referring to styles of music as Sub-sub-genres or subgenres of subgenres. There is no such thing. There are genres and subgenres, both of which can refer to a style or type of music that people create and listen to. Ben0kto (talk
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Acid Rap is a sub-genre of
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Please, before trying to have that happen again, just use the talk page. Instead of backing up your previous claims, pay attention to some of the mistakes I corrected and my replies to some of the contrary points made. Again, there is no such thing as a "subsubgenre". However, there are tons of subgenres, some notable and article worthy, some not. I am hoping a consensus can be reached and the page can be moved eventually. Ben0kto (talk
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You are the one continuing to be disruptive when consensus is against you. I read everything you posted on there, and I can say my view has not changed much. If the genre deserved its own article, it might be a different case, but even you admitted that was not true.
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I admitted that the style may not deserve its own article, but then again it may as well. Please read my wording very carefully as I am open to different options. Ben0kto (talk) 16:55, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
against somebody here. If your viewpoints are contrary to mine, I suggest you provide some real, reliable evidence as to why (see Talk page). Ben0kto (talk
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I already did. You are also miswording Wikipedia policies with your links.
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Since it is not enough evidence for your stance to be
famous) is so much more significantly attributed to the term than an entire style that influenced horrorcore majorly in the 1990s and 2000s. There is no website that will help this claim be any more believable. Ben0kto (talk
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Where has the genre been reviewed and covered significantly by multiple publications or been nominated for major awards? It has not, but continue the discussion on the article talk page, not here.
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16:58, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Please see the sources on the talk page. The genre
has been covered more significantly than the album, regardless of online magazine reviews/awards. Thanks, and I will. Ben0kto (talk
Hey, yes it was an accident, thank you for restoring it.
Signature
Hello! Make sure you change your signature, so it could be easier to access you rather than go through a redirect. ///EuroCarGT 19:25, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Oh, damn I thought I fixed everything, and that is the one thing I forgot. Thank you for reminding me!
message me!
19:29, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Down a notch
Hey, messages like this aren't doing much more than feeding the flames. I appreciate your intention, but antagonizing people isn't necessary, especially after I've already blocked them.
How is that in anyway antagonizing? I am sorry if you took it that way, but it was not my intention. I was just trying to further explain that we cannot use certifications if they are not in the
As I said, I know that's what your intention, but your delivery (e.g. using phrases like 'grow up' or 'butthurt' - yes, I know he said it first) was a bit bitey. Just something to keep in mind next time. Cheers, m.o.p 06:27, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
When another user is calling names, it is about time for that person to grow up. If someone is going to resort to name-calling on here they should either, grow up or not edit here. Also a put butthurt in quotes, as I was copying his wording, it is not a word I would usually use in a response to another editor. STATicmessage me! 06:43, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Maino
Hi, I actually represent this particular artist who is not interested in having a d.o.b listed in his Wikipedia page.
I meant in no way to disrupt the site or cause any confusion. In fact if you could remove or help me have it taken down it would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1001:B127:36A9:1417:552F:6056:3774 (talk) 04:35, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
It is sourced by a reliable source. We do not hide public information just due to the artist not wanting the information on Wikipedia, when it is available in many reliable sources online already. Just by removing it from Wikipedia will not get it removed from the internet. STATicmessage me! 04:52, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Genre
Hi. So explain how iTunes can be used to source runtimes, but not genres? Funny how you cite CIVIl when you used that exact same personal attack on me. LugnutsDick Laurent is dead 06:55, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I do not know how you do not understand the difference between the two... Track names, order, guest appearances, etc. come from the record label. Then
Apple Inc labels the releases with generic genre labels based on the genres associated with the artist, they do not listen to every album and judge its genre accordingly, they just genetically label every release by the same artist(s) with the same genre. The AllMusic side-bar does the exact same thing, that is why it cannot be used for genres either. Just read the reviews, I am sure at least one of them specifically specifies the genre of the album. Also it is not the same, because you did not provide any in-line citation next to the genre, so there was nothing to read. You were just saying that to be rude. STATicmessage me!
07:03, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Yep, def. rock - can I cite my own CD player for this...? Thanks for linking me to those sources for the album project too. LugnutsDick Laurent is dead 07:26, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Mix Tapes
Hi STATicVapor, my apologies on that. It was a two word phrase, once at least where (and when) I grew up, but if it is one word now - well, good to know. Best, Kafka Liz (talk) 02:43, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Yeah I assumed that, thanks for the copyedit that was the only mistake I saw. I think it still might be two words in some cases, but when it comes to hip hop and some types of underground rock, it is one word "mixtape". STATicmessage me! 02:54, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Cash Money / Game
Stop reverting my changes, they're legit. Game just signed to Cash Money. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neilreid123 (talk • contribs)
Please read the section carefully, you will see "The Game" is already listed.. STATicmessage me! 06:06, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
DJ Khaled
Birdman is not featured on I'm on One, so why did you put his name back??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drizzy010 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
I reverted the edit(s) because you were
WP:OVERLINKING, as the names were already frequently linked in the article, I will remove that now. STATicmessage me!
00:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
eminem
i saw your talk on the eminem page. I just don't think you can put his career start back in 1990. What he was doing back then was the equivalent of posting youtube videos of yourself rapping (not a criticism), but it was amateur stuff and since Rakim's page (as an example) starts at when he was actually being produced I think there should be consistency with eminem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Incredible Intellect (talk • contribs) 18:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
As I said, it was not like he was just doing rap battles and freestyling with his friends.
Bassmint Productions was released in 1990, so he was officially recording and producing hard copies of music all the way back then. STATicmessage me!
at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
The Marshall Mathers LP 2
Absolutely, YES to your edit summary of "Better ref, better to use a news source rather then a link to buy it". Also because as we know pre-order pages frequently disappear or are just converted into CURRENT order pages. iTunes certainly comes to mind. News source is also independent third-party as well. I know that you know all that, but I just wanted to say it anyway :D —Iknow23 (talk) 06:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks you are absolutely right too, even worse to use the pre-order on artist's website as a source since it can be considered promotional. Good thing I had read the HipHopDX article about a hour before, so it did not take long to find a reliable third party source for the content. STATicmessage me! 06:40, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Crenshaw (mixtape)
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
How could my edits be disruptive to you? I assume nobody feels it disruptive but you.
Valentfred (talk) 02:58, 19 October 2013 (UTC)October 19, 2013Valentfred (talk) 02:58, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
All the 5+ editors that have reverted your disruptive changes on pages, think they are disruptive. Just because they do the move does not make it a signature move, I do not know how many times this needs to be explained to you. STATicmessage me! 03:12, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Looking to collaborate
Hello, STATicVapor. Please check your email; you've got mail! It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{
Look, I don't know if you got my apology message so im going to leave a meesage here.I'm deeply sorry for my meltdown on Friday, OK.
I guess I took the WARNING a lil too personaly. Message me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRivera25 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Okay its all good, no worries. Just realize if you continue to change genres you need a
reliable source, if you continue to not provide one you might be blocked. STATicmessage me!
20:16, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey Static can you add an infobox and categories to my user page or show me how to--MRivera25 (talk) 16:52, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey static on your edit on The Marshall Mathers LP 2, wot did you mean by "Stop Your Disruptive Editing You Two"?--MRivera25 (talk) 18:22, 6 November 2013 (UTC)Mrivera25
Regarding the Marshall Mathers Lp 2 producers additions
Yes. The certification is THERE. in the tweet, he says that he, and the 3 other producers produced it. --Orr971 (talk) 22:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Young Dro was born in 1980.
Young Dro was born in 1980, he states this in his recent Breakfast Club interview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.52.63.253 (talk) 05:41, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Artpop
Can you READ next time before you revert my edit? --Sricsi (talk) 20:20, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks I will change that now. STATicmessage me! 21:55, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Los Santos, San Andreas
My apologies, I missed the most recent AfD on the talk page and only noticed the old one. Oddbodz (talk) 22:02, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
new to wikipedia, but regarding AFI
Hi, I'm sorry I didn't include a source for tracklist -- did not realize that was required. I do not want to start "edit war", but could you possibly revert and add the source? http://www.discogs.com/AFI-Burials/release/5026270 Also the CD itself in Best Buy has these tracks on it -- does a scan of that CD also required for proof? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.173.165 (talk) 23:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Well, Discogs is user-generated and not a reliable source. Can you find either a news source, or a direct source from Best Buy? STATicmessage me! 00:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
First of all, I would like to thank you for creating an account and working on that article, we can always use new users in the hip hop section of Wikipedia. After an article is created, it is placed on a list for a patrollers, and then must be reviewed by someone else. I actually redirected it per
But Diddy signed Yung Berg and Murphy Lee to Bad Boy Records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradley Citizen (talk • contribs) 02:35, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
I wanted to sign Yung Berg and Murphy Lee to Young Boy Entertainment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradley Citizen (talk • contribs) 02:37, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Please provide reliable sources that they are currently signed to Bad Boy. Also do not add artists to your made up record label. STATicmessage me! 02:40, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Can I create Young Montana discography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradley Citizen (talk • contribs) 02:59, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
revisions.
what is your problem,sir? you upset I might know a little bit more about music artists than you do? you have no proof to support either claim concerning the lil wayne revisions so why put em there? I patiently await your response? Smokiewight (talk) 06:49, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
The lead should not contain references per
WP:LEAD, if the information is contained and cited in the article, which it is.. STATicmessage me!
15:46, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Kokane Article
You do not have any permission to change the content on article Kokane.
If this happens again, immediate actions will be taken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RashaadGold (talk • contribs) 22:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
This is coming directly from the source. Wikipedia will be contacted about your fraudulent actions. If you continue this inappropriate behavior, Kokane's(Jerry B. Long) attorney will be contacted for defamation of character and legal action will be taken. All complaints against you have been printed and recorded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RashaadGold (talk • contribs) 23:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
GTAV: Doubled Headline
Hey STATicVapor, in this Edit, you changed the Headline "Others" in the Controversy Section to "Music". There already is another section with this name under "Development". Could you find another name for one of them, maybe "Copyright infringement in Music"? --nennt
Okay. I will keep looking around but 10-20 separate non-forum websites will be hard to find. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben0kto (talk • contribs) 16:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Then the subject must not be notable, I recently created an article about a indie rapper with 40+ references, none of them to unreliable sources or forums, and it is still up for AfD. STATicmessage me! 16:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Is Pro Era Records legit?
Hey I just started editing the Pro Era page and I noticed that it said Pro Era Records in which I believe is a made up label. I don't hear any of the Pro Era mention that record label. Besides that I was thinking that we should make a Thee Way Eye See It mixtape page. It has a lot of profile artists on the project. Buckshot from Black Moon, Phife Dawg from A Tribe Called Quest, Joey Bada$$, Ab-Soul, Statik Selektah. It would be perfect since Fuse interviewed him about the mixtape.
Yes it is actually, looks like it was recently created, see [2] the Summer Knights EP will be the first release under the label. Also well, when it comes to mixtapes they usually need very significant coverage, or at least two reviews by reviewers at
Im sorry for screaming but I do want this page that I arranged and (it was very lame before I came) to contain everything that ALC does. I want to have there the full history of his projects because he is working very hard and releasing a LOT of material every year, I want all of this to be written down and organized here, so if a new fan comes, he can see what he should listen to if he likes Alchemist's music. Even the underground little projects that he does.. (Even though this is not underground, it's freaking Coca Cola!).
Listen. I came to this page, re-organized it, edited it and added a lot of things to it a long time a go. I want to keep updating it as much as I can with all the new things he does. It's really important. Come on! It's not like Wikipedia has a limited storage of words or something... :) haha. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orr971 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
OK Ill try to use more of those. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orr971 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Twiz
Listen, WHY did you delete my page about Twiz the Beat Pro? If you're into that underground rap scene you know that he is a well known producer. I contacted him and did him a favor and created a page for him. It took me a lot of time, I DONT have a backup. You came and TRASHED it. Why? The info WAS right. I can send you our fricking conversation if you want. He gave me the details himself. I wrote there, and it took me a lot of time.Can you please get it back? The article did have a significance to the subject. His career history, the artists that he producedfor, his nickname meaning, his date/place of birth...
And if you want me to add something Ill go and ask him but don't just DELETE it! Tell me what to add and I will!
Im sorry don't know why I thought it was you... Have a good night. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orr971 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Deuce + Eli James
Tye Gaddis did not tour with Deuce during the majority of 2012 and did not return until shows resumed in 2013.
Here are several sources that highlight Eli James involvement in the project as a touring member for the year of 2012, including a drum cam video of him playing on "I Came To Party".
Not sure what the issue was with the singular source, but if more verification is needed I hope this is sufficient enough for you to re-add him as a former touring member.
2605:E000:5EC2:B400:B892:36C4:954C:3A1E (talk) 18:18, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
As I said, those are
WP:SPS, and the MTV bio is not written by a professional, the artist or their management can write it. STATicmessage me!
18:41, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey I Need Help
I just made this article called The Proposal (album). It is article about a collaborative album with Statik Selektah & Ransom. I did most of the work and I need some help. Your assistance would be very much appreciated. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by PyschopathicMan (talk • contribs) 00:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Artpop
Hey, lets solve this once and for all...I was looking at our edit war, and I was thinking, what are we edit warring about?....we are writing the same thing, just different wording....we both agree that do what u want is the second single, so whats the problem?..
So, "Venus" is now on Amazon...but please...do NOT say it's the third single....discuss it in the talk page first....
Justiceforvenus (talk) 06:10, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Trap Music
Could I ask why you keep removing references to Grime and Dubstep as the stylistic origin of Trap Music? The UK bass scenes have been cited by RL Grime and Diplo as significant influences on their music. In fact RL Grime was listening to the boiler room and UK grime tracks for many years before producing his own music. Diplo has had influences from both the Brazilian Baile Funk and UK Bass scenes by virtue of his relationship with UK artist MIA. Please stop removing references without citing your reasons. As even under Dubstep, Trap music is merely cited as a subgenre. Please listen to Kano Ps and Qs, Firecamp Forward 2 and North Weezee by BMD. These tunes were produced in the early 2000s well before Trap co-opted a lot of the sonic innovations of these genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.178.88.82 (talk) 06:59, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The word "trap" is not said once in the entire source you cited. Also even if two artists said that trap was an influence on them, does not make the genre of influence of trap. If it
Perhaps we are arguing about semantics. Diplo and RL Grime are cited in the Trap article as significant Trap producers and have said Grime/Dubstep has been an influence on their Trap music. Also you have not addressed that under the Dubstep wikipedia article, Trap is cited as a sub-genre. I sense an unwillingness to accept that recent innovations in hip hop/electronic music have their origins in UK bass music. The same arguments have been fought and lost by Americans with regards to Brostep, which has been acknowledged as simply sub genre of Dubstep. Likewise the Crunk origins of Trap bear no relation to Dubstep and Grime inspired beat structures of Trap music today. I will dig out sources from established newspapers later today and change the article accordingly.
Also please listen to the artists I cited in the earlier paragraph and hear the origins of the current Trap sound. I dont see the reason for unwillingness to accept its origins, the UK is racially diverse like America, but unlike the US racial mixing is very common. This has resulted in the cross fertilisation of different musical genres and this has also happened in many periods before ('The Police' producing what is in effect Reggae being a notable example). Grime the progenitor of Dubstep has its origins in Dub, Drum n Bass, Jungle, Garage, Hip Hop and Techno. This could only happen due to White Britons freely mixing with Jamaican, African and Asian immigrants. The same happened in earlier periods to produce ska music for example, which was a mix of reggae, dub and UK rock. Even the skinheads have their origins in mixed reggae clubs, as White youths shaved their heads to match their black peers. This look was later taken on by racists, who were unaware of its actual origins : ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.178.88.82 (talk) 08:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a
original research, we do not accept that here. Unless you can provide multiple reliable sources for your addition, it cannot be on the page. STATicmessage me!
16:08, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
OK I dug out a source http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/10/trap_music_edm_uz_baauer_ugk.php?page=2 LA weekly which is a publication that dates back to 1978. Please note the author states with regards to Trap that "You could basically call it the next phase of dubstep. It plays at a club-ready 140 bpm while retaining dubstep's craze-inducing drops". Note 'dubstep's craze inducing drops!' Now I would like to add this article and show that aspects of the new sound of trap have their basis in dubstep and its rap based progenitor Grime. I notice that one of the other points I have raised you have addressed. So perhaps you will now acknowledge my analysis which has been backed up by American publication.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.178.88.82 (talk) 13:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Jimmy Henchman page: Thank you
Thank you for reverting vandalism on Jimmy Henchman page that wiped out almost the entire page. I wanted you to know that since you rescued the article the the same anonymous IP address blanked out all the info about Henchman's indictments and convictions etc. The page has gone through extensive vetting and litigation by the Wikipedia community and it was decided that it should stay. Since the time of the AFD more than a year ago it has been appropriately expanded as Henchman has been sentenced to life imprisonment and is being tried for murder for hire. I reverted the blanking by the anonymous IP address but am not confident that it will stay that way. Is there a way to request complete protection of the page or otherwise address the problem? It seems that continued vandalism by the IP address would warrant some kind of sanctions. (I'm relatively new to Wiki) Thanks much.Scholarlyarticles (talk) 18:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
@
WP:RFPP, however I would hold off for now, since it was only one IP and one incident it might not be protected, I would suggest waiting until they either return and do it again, or a different IP address vandalizes the page. STATicmessage me!
I want to be able to contribute here at Wikipedia the best I can. The only problem is, I'm finding a lot of
references and articles such as J-Mack and Chunk (rapper) won't be recreated without multiple print publications. I don't take the strict guidelines here as a joke, and I will continue to improve my edits but I do agree that I need more third-party print references for any of these Bay Area artists to be notable per WP guidelines. Thanks and have a nice day. Ben0kto (talk
) 21:47, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Everyone is free to create articles, and I can appreciate anyone making positive edits to hip hop subjects. Look at the various websites at
significantly covered in reliable sources, then they are probably not notable enough for Wikipedia articles. Also instead of trying to create five new articles a day, pace yourself and work on a single article in your userspace, where it cannot be deleted and once the article establishes notability of the artist without a shadow of a doubt. These short articles with only citations to Discogs and AllMusic discographies are still going to be deleted. STATicmessage me!
21:59, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I will definitely look at those. It seems like I am using too many of the quickest sites I immediately find, rather than digging deeper for reliable coverage. Thanks for the tip and have a good one. I will create more articles in a few more days if I can work on something with good coverage. Ben0kto (talk) 22:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes please, take your time and dig as deep as possible. Just using the first page of Google results will not help any notability, I usually look at the first 20 pages of normal GHits and the most possible pages of GNews whenever I create an article. STATicmessage me! 01:38, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
I thought I would let you know that I am redirecting
Rappin' Ron for right now, to The Dangerous Crew, as it was the group he was a member of. He also released an album called Bad-N-Fluenz. Thanks Ben0kto (talk
) 23:06, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you.
I was trying to fix that article from scratch. Should have remembered the revert button.
Yeah sorry if I reverted any other changes that needed to be made, there was a bunch of vandalism right before you edited it. I am going to request protection on the page right now. STATicmessage me! 01:36, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
The Monster
Article mentions Aalias as a producer, along with his twitter page confirming he co-produced with Frequency. https://twitter.com/Thisisaalias
I used CTRL-F to look for the word "Aalias" in the source you provided, so he is not mentioned in the article text at all. Also the Twitter is not verified, and 211 followers? Cannot be used as a
No problem – I'll have a look at as much of the background info I can and then come to an opinion, as this appears to be quite a heated debate in need of a wise and noble character such as myself (nice to see we Wikipedians have got our priorities right, arguing about tiny details on song pages when many proper encylopaedic articles are in dire need of improvement – I'm just joking, obviously). I'll put my comments there soon. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 07:51, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
MMLP2
Okay stop deleting everything I add. Do you know how much times I spent on the production credits and writing credits of Marshall Mathers 2? "Unreliable Sources".. I a PICTURE of the albums LINER NOTES! What's more reliable than this.
I think you know me already and you know that I don't just add anything until 100% sure. Im not one of those spammers. And you know it. I put a picture of the liner notes I copied all from there. And you saw that there was some sngs that I didn't edit - that's because the picture doesn't show them! I basse my edits ONLY on sure things. The pictures are the most legit evidence you can have to an edit. It's the OFFICIAL LINER NOTES!
I gonna re edit it because I saved the saurce of what I wrote... PLEASE! d not delete it. I spent a lot of time writing it and I wouldn't spen this much time editing that if I wasn't 100% sure. Please. Believe me... Believe the liner notes.. please!
see: If you didn't see it: the pictures are in References 71, 69. I spent a lot of time finding them too. I worked HARD on this so please leave it there man.
--Orr971 (talk) 22:29, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
@
reliable sources. If the images were posted by a reliable sources we could trust them not to be doctored or anything. Unless you cannot find a reliable source they are likely to be reverted, there is no harm in waiting till November 5 to have full credits. STATicmessage me!
22:32, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
But images are images its an image of the liner notes. Even the one in the forum. I need to get it back because it is true. You know what? Let me keep the Bonus tracks credits too and if it's wrong we will know in like 3-4 days and change it but I promise you it is true. You can't fake a liner notes image. Not one lik this anyways. Let me bring it back. It's true . if not - We will know soon and change it. I WILL. please. for my hard work.
As I said, we cannot trust random forum posters to not doctor credits, just be glad I am letting the ones sourced to Facebook stay, just keep in mind someone else might come and change it. I do not know about you, but I would rather the content not be there, then to ever have incorrect information on Wikipedia, leniency is what leads others to label Wikipedia as an unreliable source. Its just bonus tracks, someone if not myself will buy the album on November 5 and we will know they truth. STATicmessage me! 22:57, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
uugh but I worked so hard on it. I don't know. I promis it's true but whatever. It just took me a lot of time. BUT, EVIL TWIN WAS produced by Sid Roams. I know that because it's a reference to "The Reunion" that was also produced by them. Alchemist said that they produced on the album so It isit. And honestly no-one will doctor the credits if people already have the album... and people do... I think we should bring back the bonus credits but whatever. --Orr971 (talk) 23:18, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
It does not really hurt not having them, and the way people on forums are... it does not happen that infrequently. Do you have reference linking him to the track? Has he referenced it on Twitter or anything? This being a high-profile album everything needs to be
Why did you revert my change to EMI? I saw a just-released CD in the store today that clearly said, “EMI Records Nashville, a Universal Music Company.” It also had a Universal Music UPC and catalogue number. I think that the article should reflect this. Peace. —MuzikJunky (talk) 06:33, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant to leave an edit summary. If it is not mentioned in the article it needs a reliable source, so it can be
Do you see I was right now? The credit were edited and I WAS right about the bounus tracks and Sid Roams.
--Orr971 (talk) 12:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Alma mater
First of all, knowledge of the subject isn't essential to understand that when one is a YouTube channel owner, one is not directly employed by Google or YouTube, and there is no indication that he works for either of them. Second of all right from our own dab page on it, "Alma mater is Latin for "nourishing mother". In many modern languages it is principally heard as a term of academia. It may also refer to the school or college from which an individual has graduated or which they have attended." Clearly the more usual usage is "from which an individual has graduated." Therefore, at the very least, it should be clarified. MSJapan (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Nicki Minaj Discography
Why did you add 'Clappers' as a single when it is NOT!!! It was NOT sent to radio regardless of what 'The Gifted' Article says and if so please cite where on my talk page. JACUBANHELADO (talk) 19:01, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of WikiRedactor -- WikiRedactor(talk
I did notice that it was a user review, but the review wasn't removed properly, and it left an incomplete section. I told the user that the error had happened, and I was in the process of fixing it. Cheers, C(u)w(t)C(c) 20:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC).
BDS
The BDS radio charts, to my knowledge, track the amount of weekly plays and radio adds a song receives. I wouldn't call them a 100% solid indicator of an official release date, however—any song which receives a noticeable amount of urban airplay can chart on BDS, regardless of whether they were officially serviced by the label or not. I have noticed, though, that the "Urban Most Added" section often includes singles recently released to urban radio. So while those charts are sometimes a good indicator of which songs were probably released to radio, I'd check for an official radio add date or a source directly stating that it was released to radio before making all the necessary edits. I'll also note that I've noticed that there are some radio add dates which Frequency News/FMQB/All Access/etc. fail to mention—the impact date for Kanye West's "Black Skinhead", to my knowledge, never got posted by any of the sources I mentioned, and was only revealed in a Billboard article; I actually wouldn't be surprised if "Bound 2" has already been serviced. Hope this helped. Holiday56 (talk) 06:08, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Abuse
Can I get your definition of "abuse"? Way to passive aggressively attack me via the template on my page. :)
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) 17:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
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Jmeeter: I'm guessing that StaticVapor was just as confused as I was about this warning you gave to him and decided to leave you a message about it. As to the warning: which edit did you see as a joke edit? I didn't see one. —C.Fred (talk
) 17:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
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) 17:25, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Yeah I created the article, I do not think I would be making a joke of it. Next time pay attention to what you are reading before
templating a regular, especially if it is a direct quote. I had no idea adding professional reviewers opinion would be adding a "joke" to the article.STATicmessage me!
Not a offical Mixtape? chevy woods was a Featured artist
explain the difference, please? it's a Coast to Coast Mixtape hosted by Too Short sponsored by Too Short as well so if you could explain the difference it would help a lot. do these two NOT get along? thanx(Yameka (talk) 21:53, 4 November 2013 (UTC))
DatPiff marks "official mixtapes" with a banner as you can see if you see here and here. That mixtape is just an unofficial compilation of various tracks made by some not notable DJs, the only affiliation Too Short has with it is him hosting it, it is not like it is an official mixtape by Too Short. STATicmessage me! 21:58, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
So I'm Asking is Coast to Coast vol. 244 hosted by Too Short is Unofficial so its nobodys Mixtape? a Fake? & Unofficial?
so this is the original link before submitted it seems highly supported....dat piff
Again, its just a random unofficial mixtape made by a not notable DJ, its an unofficial compilation of random artists tracks, which they may have or may not even be involved with having on the mixtape, more than likely not. Frankly just making a guest appearance on a mixtape is not worth mentioning in a biography, unless the mixtape is notable enough for its own article. STATicmessage me! 22:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Wade Barrett
Hi ! Sorry, if I'm not in the right place to write. I'm new on Wikipedia and English is not my native langage. I didn't find a mailbox to send you my question. So, Why did you delete my writes on Wade Barrett " He is in relationship with Alicia Fox since 2010" It's the truth, Wade Barrett talked about it, I added a reference and there are photos of them together. Sorry again, if I wrote in the wrong place.Mllepan (talk) 00:22, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry dude - i have the ultimate NPOV - i had never heard of the guy til i read the article.
The edits are entirely consistent with NPOV
"Editing from a neutral point of view (NPOV) means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic"
You are removing all negative view from the LEAD
WP:LEAD
"The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview. It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points—including any prominent controversies.[2] "
Note you are deliberately removing the prominent controversies from the WP:LEAD
WP:BLP
"Criticism and praise should be included if they can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone. Do not give disproportionate space to particular viewpoints; the views of tiny minorities should not be included at all. Care must be taken with article structure to ensure the overall presentation and section headings are broadly neutral."
YOU ARE REMOVING THE NEUTRALITY OF THE INTRO AND ITS ABILITY TO STAND ALONE AS A SUMMARY!
I dont give a rats ass about this guy, who he is, what he does. I saw a t-shirt on sale and googled to see if I wanted it. I read the article, saw the lack of consistency with WP:LEAD as far as summary of the article. as WP:LEAD says "The lead is the first part of the article most people read, and many read only the lead." if the relied on the prior version the would only see his fame as a rapper, not his notable *according to the article) infamy as a criminal and notable disputes with former collaborators. Either it belongs in the lead, or it doesnt belong in the article, one or the other - either remove all the controversy stuff as non-notable or nonNPOV, ot it belongs in the intro according to WP:LEAD Mycosys (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
BTW I can tell you're a fan and I am sorry you dont like seeing a an artist you like being portrayed that way, but being neutral means wars and all, not just the pretty view, ans I am sorry if that sucks for you (sincerely). I am a former promoter, lighting & sound guy, VJ, festival organiser and technician. I have worked with names as big as the Prodigy and the Mad Professor. I have MUCH love for spoken word and Rap, They have featured prominently in our festivals. My first 5 night a week gig was in an R&B club. No hate, ok brother. Mycosys (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Edit #3 - I am also a cripple, all I type to you hurts - so many words means i respect you, ok Mycosys (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Again violates
WP:BLP, the exact negative words you are using are not mentioned anywhere in the article, if you knew nothing about the artist you would not be disruptively making these changes. Also if you know nothing of the subject, you should not be making changes to the lead without discussing it on the talk page. His major legal issue is already mentioned in the lead, and he is not well known for having disputes with former collaborators. It is not a rare thing to have a few in the rap world. To be honest, I cannot stand Gucci Mane, I would take Prodigy over him every single day of the week, the page is just a frequently highly viewed page, so as with every major hip hop BLP I keep an eye on it for vandalism and other issues. STATicmessage me!
05:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I really had never heard of him - I have since of course done my research. I spoke to another editor on IRC, the second para doesnt belong -too specific. I know we should move this to article talk but would hurt. would you be cool with replacing it with
"Based since adolescence in Atlanta, Georgia, Gucci has a notable history of violence, drugs and weapon charges in frequent encounters with law enforcement - some resulting in incarceration. Like many other rap artists he has been known to 'come at' other artists in lyrics and public statements, one such encounter allegedly leading to an abortive attempt to rob him, after which he was charged with murder, later dismissed as self defence. His latest incarcerations have been over parole violations after drug and weapons charges."
I have found an beautiful bio (it really is a beautifully well written piece) which has some comments by him on growing up tough particularly, implying gang violence from a young age as a necessity:
http://www.artistdirect.com/artist/bio/gucci-mane/3228134
“I’m from East Atlanta Zone Six; it was hard, man, it was real rough. I grew up in the Starter jacket era: they’d take your Starter jacket, your 8Ball jacket, they’d take your hat, your shoes. It was just no holds barred on the streets, dog eat dog. If you missed the bus, you had to be crewed up or you’d get jumped. It was wild when I came up.”
which probably deserves referencing as do a number of Washington times links http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/gucci-mane/ as more reliable references on his charges and incarceration.
I truly was trying to make the intro more consistent with WP:LEAD - it currently missed virtually all the controversy he is clearly renowned for, half of the contents of the article. I think the above paragraph summarises the second half of the article pretty well, rather than just one incident (whose specifics really dont belong in the lead but in the body).
Would you mind saying hi on freenode? you seem like somebody i would like - pretty lonely stuck on a couch after spending your life backstage :) Mycosys (talk) 06:11, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I now see you were trying to improve the article, from a new user you never know, but the way you wrote the article made him seem like more of a criminal and negative figure, rather then a rapper. Maybe some points of his recent major legal issues can be mentioned in the lead, but the negative puff you added to the lead definitely does not follow
WP:BLP policy. Some of the other things such as disputes with other rappers and run-ins with police can be mentioned in the article, 80% of rappers have verbal fights with other rappers and have run-ins with the law. STATicmessage me!
06:25, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I would not have called over 2 years new, but thats just me I suppose. I read a lot and try to clean up when i see something amiss. What would you suggest? What I have written is a factual summation of the legal and controversy sections in as breif a form as i can manage. The fact that according to the article he was charged with murder after friends of a former collaborator followed that former collaborators suggestion in his lyrics and attempted to rob him, after a series of public outbursts directed at each other and that a man died as a result seems to make the whole 'coming at' thing pretty damn significant and worth including. His criminal record is for drugs, weapons and violence and he has been incarcerated multiple times, so that should be there. Where he lived most of his life is very significant to the part of rap culture he is in, so has to be there. In fact I cant find a single negative word there, just cold hard impassioned fact. Have a go at including all the things I did without sounding negative, because I have REALLY tried. Mycosys (talk) 07:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Not more about the amount of time, but the amount of experience. Judging by the welcome on your talk page, I assumed that you had created this account in August 2013, my apologies if that was not the case. I added to the lead right now, and the way it is now perfectly summarizes his legal issues without going into incredible detail. All the negative stuff you tried to add should not be the first thing mentioned in the lead, he is more famous for his rap career than anything else. "He was charged with murder after friends of a former collaborator followed that former collaborators suggestion in his lyrics and attempted to rob him, after a series of public outbursts directed at each other and that a man died as a result seems to make the whole 'coming at' thing pretty damn significant and worth including." Where is this sourced too? There is lacking coverage in the early life section, so go ahead and expand it with proper reliable sources. STATicmessage me! 14:56, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Oct2011 if you look at the edit history, or if you look at the history of my page i created that in June 2012. Prior to '11 I had a dynamic addr and didnt care about leaving my IP. Was a bit bewildered why somebody added the welcome.
The whole back and forth leading to the robbery is the first issue dealt with in the controversy section. The murder charge is dealt with in the legal section. I dont tend to get things wrong like this - one thing trolls on WHirlpool used to find out - I have a 180IQ and dont say unless I know. The back and forth that led to a murder charge deserves to be in the intro - it makes up about a quarter of the article
please help - my hands dont work — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mycosys (talk • contribs) 00:50, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Will add actually to why i didn't get an account - my housemate at the time was so self important about hers and so damn precious about some edit was she was in about the natability of sources regarding her whacko religion that it put me off having one, anon edits were fine, didnt need credit. Only got one when it started to matter for security and revision management as WP matured.
I have
Ehlers Danlos Syndrome - I really am in pain Mycosys (talk
) 00:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Berzerk
I know for a fact the song was not released till August 27th. Itunes sometimes writes the dates wrong so that should be fixed. Koala15 (talk) 05:35, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
@Koala15: Yeah you're right, how could it have been released there when the song's audio was not even publicly released yet. But that needs to be adjusted on the song article too, or it just looks inconsistent and sloppy. Also I would appreciate if you commented back on the Swizzz AfD, the way it seems your vote might swing the vote to a possible delete, and I am trying to convince you otherwise, who knows my last comment might, seemed pretty convincing to me. I mean the coverage is only gonna get more significant since his debut album is coming. HipHopDX reviewed his recent single and he was significantly covered in the LA Weekly source. I would hate for another new user to recreate it and have it get salted like SwizZz is. STATicmessage me! 06:02, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I would definitely consider changing my vote, since it seems like you have found a good amount of coverage. I'm just not sure how to. Koala15 (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
@Koala15: Add <s></s> around the delete to strike it, then at the end of your first comment, leave a reason for changing your vote and write keep at the beginning or end of it. Glad I could convince you. STATicmessage me! 16:13, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
critical reception section of marshall mathers lp2
you mentioned generally positive reviews for marshall mathers lp 2 in critical reception, but the album received many positive reviews from critics as mentioned on the page and there are only 3 mixed reviews for the album so you can call it mostly positive or just positive rather than generally positive.please mention that marshall mathers lp 2 has received positive reviews from critics. i saw many pages of albums and positive is the best mention for this album. generally positive lowers the critical esteem of the album,so positive would be the correc mention. please consider my statement — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikhil112 (talk • contribs) 17:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Lil Kim
Seperated article only shows awards and nominations not honors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaunusz (talk • contribs) 22:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Bangerz (album), you may be interested in commenting on this proposal. --BDD (talk
) 18:26, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
i left you a new message
hi its User:MRivera25.ileft you a message on the section message for staticvapor hope you respond,i asked a question on the mmlp2.--MRivera25 (talk) 19:38, 6 November 2013 (UTC)Mrivera25
Web Entertainment
If you look on the back of the MMLP2 album, you can clearly see the logo for Web Entertainment. Why did you remove my edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newguy287 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Every single album has had the Web logo on it, just like with Goliath (which is his management), the label was not physically involved in its release. STATicmessage me! 23:53, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello, the content removal I done for the page Knock Madness was done for the purpose of creating a new page for the first single off of the album: Old Friend. I intended to put all of the content stated on the page Knock Madness to put into a new page: Old Friend. The content that I removed was information covering the single and I thought it would be decent to make a page about the single.
Sorry for the inconvenience. Anyways, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xchriscrys4al (talk • contribs) 05:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Old Friend shall be a redirect. LOL, I am very new to Wikipedia, so I'm really kinda bored and making this Wikipedia pages. But yes, Old Friend shall be a redirect to Knock Madness. I understand it now. Thanks
Yeah, it makes sense. Ok! Thanks for the assistance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xchriscrys4al (talk • contribs) 06:09, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Tom Ford (song)
Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! DoctorKubla (talk
) 16:37, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey! I Asked You a question AND YOU STILL HAVENT ANSWERED IT YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look Im Really Sorry but I'v waited all week for you to respond to my question regarding the edit you made for The Marshall Mathers LP 2--MRivera25 (talk) 17:51, 8 November 2013 (UTC)MRivera25
Two users were edit warring of what reviews to include in the ratings template, you were not involved so why is it so important? Also do not swear on my talk page, this is a professional environment, so act professional no matter how old you are. STATicmessage me! 18:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Well because I dont see how their edit was "Disruptive" I saw the edit and I saw no disruptive editing AT ALL, also i had to swear because i have been waiting for 3 days for you to answer me I mean you could've answered me as soon as you got the message instead of wondering why i asked that question.--MRivera25 (talk) 21:17, 8 November 2013 (UTC)MRivera25
They were edit warring, edit warring is disruptive. Nothing really needs to be explained. I did not see it as anything really important or significant, especially since you were not involved. I am busy always creating new articles or reverting vandalism. STATicmessage me! 23:57, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Alright OK If your busy all the time and that was disruptive and non of my business FINE I'll make sure I only message you when I need you.--MRivera25 (talk) 18:34, 11 November 2013 (UTC)MRivera25
RE: Roc Nation Buys Block Starz Music
Hello Static,
AllHipHop.com and other major Hip-Hop news outlets published and still reference the fact that it was reported to be bought by Jay-Z when posting new stories related to the Block Starz Music label. [1] This story was also carried by various non urban major press outlets internationally and was never refuted by Roc Nation and/or representatives for Jay-Z, who undoubtedly saw the story at the time it was originally published. The Hollywood Reporter is a respected trade magazine and PerezHilton.com is a highly-cited website in the same way TMZ has become a "reliable source" by today's standard. A large enough rumor is news. At any length, I can provide additional information about this story to support its notability, so please contact me to discuss. If we can find the story denying the purchase, we just add it to the article, but it was without question a notable event. Thanks in advance! Macklevine (talk) 22:15, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
It needs to be backed by known third party
reliable sources. The three sources you originally provided are not necessarily considered reliable sources. However AllHipHop is considered a reliable source, so please replace the Hollywood Reporter and RerezHilton source with that. In the case the information is okay to stay in the article. STATicmessage me!
00:02, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Source for information?
Thanks for the correction about MMLP2/Web Entertainment. Just curious, how do you know Recovery was released by Web Entertainment? Not doubting it's true..just wondering how you can tell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newguy287 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I am pretty sure it was not, I mean MMLP1, The Eminem Show and Relapse (his other CDs that I have not including SSLP), also have the Web logo on the back, but all sources including official sites like HitsDoubleDaily, iTunes, RIAA etc, only call it a Shady/Aftermath/Interscope album. Just like his management, I am pretty sure Web did not actually release the album. Pretty sure its just branding. STATicmessage me! 01:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Articles you redirected
You removed "3rd World War" and "Beautiful Onyinye". You need to put them in the parent article. I am not good with Wikipedia to know where they are currently located. versace1608 (talk) 04:19, 9 November 2013 (UTC) I know Wikipedia rules tells the "reviewer" to redirect the page. Can you not redirect things I write. You can kindly add the the contents of the redirected page to the parent article. versace1608 (talk) 04:32, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Well I already marked
WP:NSONGS for more information on what constitutes notability for songs. STATicmessage me!
04:38, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
If it's left with you, no african songs will deserve an article because they will all fail "notability". versace1608 (talk) 04:48, 9 November 2013 (UTC) I put the contents in the page but the image has been mark for deletion. The non free images have been tagged for deletion. I will try to change the way I write the articles but do not redirect the pages. I don't want to keep having to upload non free images over and over. versace1608 (talk) 05:03, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Maybe instead of creating new articles for every single single or song, work on existing articles, if the songs fail the notability guideline (
WP:NSONGS), they are subject to be redirected or deleted, that does not mean recreate them under a different title. STATicmessage me!
16:26, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I understand that and you're only abiding by the rules set forth by the Wikipedia community. I recreated the "Beautiful Onyinye" article because the song was nominated for a notable award. The only thing that the article fails is charting. The references provided are notable in that they are third party sources independent of the subject. I am of the opinion that you and David are picking and choosing references that you guys deemed "notable". All of the references I provide are notable third party references. I really wish African songs received coverage from foreign references but as it currently stands, African songs are not widely known outside of Africa. I really wish there was a billboard section dedicated to Africa. Hopefully, there's one in the near future. versace1608 (talk) 18:58, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Being nominated for an award is enough to keep the article, that is why I set it up to be moved back to the original title. You might want to see
WP:ALBUMS/SOURCES for a list of what sources are considered reliable, if you can find sources for those type of sites, the song may be notable, just filling it with unreliable blogs does establish notability on the English Wikipedia. STATicmessage me!
19:42, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
There lies the problem. The list of websites provided rarely have coverage of African music. I once read a review of D'banj's DKM album a writer for NY Times wrote. I try my best to provide notable sources and the number of webpages that covers Nigerian music are very limited. African music still has a long way to go in terms of being information friendly. Also, the way music is structure in Nigeria is totally different from how it is structure here (U.S) and in the U.K. From now on, I will include most of the singles in their parent articles. versace1608 (talk) 03:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I might just have to take it to the BLP noticeboard if he continues this, I hope he might take it to the talk page rather then try to start an edit war. I think the term he might be looking for would be "statutory rape", as using the generalized word "rape" and not specifying the gender of the other party, it is a gross BLP violation. For all we know, Brown may have not even been entirely truthful with his statement, and attempting to make himself seem more masculine or something of that nature. I remember Bow Wow said that he lost his V-card at 13 to some actress, which she blatantly denied. I was actually wondering why you had not reverted him the second time. The way he has blatantly attempted to change guidelines without discussing, I am surprised a thread at ANI has not opened up on him yet. STATicmessage me! 00:48, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
There have been a lot of complaints and some reporting with regard to problems with his edits, and he would not be editing this site if he had not returned under a different account after being indefinitely blocked. I don't remember if there has been a WP:ANI thread on him, but my youngest brother, who recently commented on his talk page, knows whether there has been one. I also remember something about him stating that he is female. If he is, we should get the pronouns right, but he never seems insistent on the correct pronoun use with regard to his sex/gender; I state that because so many editors refer to him by male pronouns, and he barely objects.
talk
) 01:05, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, if he was indefinitely blocked and returned under a different username, should we not open a sockpuppet investigation and get this account blocked for good? I would open it if I knew the original account name. The edits are definitely
That (getting him re-blocked, this time via a WP:Sockpuppet investigation) was already attempted; see
talk
) 01:24, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Also, if you compare the strikingly similar edits of both accounts, the fact that Pass a Method is (or was) using the same IP ranges as Someone65, and the fact that Someone65 was repeatedly warned for deceptive edit summaries and Pass a Method has been (and continues to be) repeatedly warned for that as well, there is no doubt whatsoever that Pass a Method is Someone65.
talk
) 01:35, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Dang, that sucks, looks like the declining was just based on the improper behavior and "assumptions" by the nominator. Either way, if they continue the disruptive behavior my crystal ball, sees many ANI/BLPN threads and a block in his/her future. I probably will not personally run into them again (unless they decide to move into hip hop/urban subjects), so that's on you or someone else with a bigger variety watchlist to handle in the future. Do not be afraid to revert obvious BLP violations, like the one we saw on Chris Brown when you see them, those type of controversial edits should always go through talk pages first. STATicmessage me! 01:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, as you saw, it's difficult to argue that the near-identical edits of both accounts and use of the same IP ranges were just coincidences. He more so escaped a re-block because the WP:CheckUser data was stale on the Someone65 account and there was a question as to whether or not he had generally changed his way in a year's time.
I'm not afraid to revert WP:BLP violations; I deal with WP:BLP violation issues often. And as is clear above, I'm not afraid to revert Pass a Method; it's just that I'd rather not deal with him when I don't "have to."
talk
) 02:03, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, clearly looks like the same person. Yeah I know, if you watchlist any BLP you are guaranteed to deal with BLP violations about everyday. Okay I understand that viewpoint, when they are not adhering to a
WP:AIV report passed on that merritt. He left a message on the Chris Brown talk page, judging by his wording he was stalking this discussion, but I do not even feel like getting into it with him at this point. If you dropped a comment there I would appreciate it, and probably would jump in shortly. I think if we are going to include the information at all, we should just say he lost his virginity at 8, using the word "rape" is very very incorrect in my mind, as that is not what Brown called it. I mean, if we called it "rape" we would almost have to include Category:Rape victims, but that just sounds like a BLP nightmare to me. STATicmessage me!
02:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, I did link his username above...which means, since his
talk
) 03:06, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
That's my mistake then, I had missed that you had linked his username. Well then, I guess I will have to get around to that. About your last two sentences, what are you attempting to imply? What would we then describe it as then, you know besides underage sex. STATicmessage me! 03:15, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
About statutory rape, I was simply noting the general use of the term (that it's not exactly accurate to use it in this case). I'm not sure what term would be best to describe Brown's experience in the case of including text in his Wikipedia article.
talk
) 03:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
DYK for The Marshall Mathers LP 2
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
There is issues under singles discography for his second album Take Care
The single cycle for Take Care was Headlines followed by Make Me Proud, The Motto, Take Care, HYFR and then Crew Love (radio only). Marvin's Room was initially released as a free song in the summer of 2011 and then released as a promotional single for the album. Headlines was released and promoted as the albums lead single in August.
In addition to that, Lord Knows was never released as a single but continually gets edited into there, it is just like the numerous other album cuts with some slight chart success.
Thank you if you can fix these — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.M.O.E.2 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Headlines is the first single released from Take Care [2] . It was sent to radio and promoted as the official lead single (and first [3]) off of Take Care
Marvin's Room was never released as a single from Take Care, it was made available as a promotional single in June of 2011 and ultimately found placement on the album [4]
As far as Lord Knows goes, the sourced link was never official and it has incorrect data. Lord Knows was originally intended to be released in the UK on July 30th, 2012
Universal Republic also teased us with a We'll Be Fine radio release date of November 26th 2012 in the UK and even shot a video for it, but the song was never released as a single off of Take Care. Both were situations of intent to release, but never officially released as a single from the album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.M.O.E.2 (talk • contribs
) 04:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
"Marvin's Room" was released as a single on iTunes and was serviced to urban radio, and included on the album. That in no way makes it a
The wording of "lead" and "first" is interpreted differently, I noticed that in your first response. Which is why I sourced MTV speaking on Headlines and how thats the first single from Take Care. But in the end it really isn't a huge deal.
In regards to Lord Knows, there are multiple sources claiming different release dates, nothing officially released from the label, no actual success from the song (especially in-comparison to every other single from the album) or evidence of radio spins. The only sign pointing towards it being an official single is one source that has conflicting data with several other sources, all with different release dates. It just does not seem logical to have it included with the other album singles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.M.O.E.2 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Happy Editing
Hello STATicVapor, Eduemoni has given you a shining smiling star! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the Shining Smiling Star whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy! Eduemoni↑talk↓ 12:16, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Eminem
hi,i want to ask you that whenever i edit eminem article you always remove my edit even i have a source for that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faizannehal (talk • contribs) 18:30, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
ok i'm sorry for my words and i will not repeat my mistake — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faizannehal (talk • contribs) 18:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
hey last night i edit the article of eminem and add two images in it and also give a source but again my edit was removed please find a solution — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faizannehal (talk • contribs) 18:32, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
The images were copyright violations, you cannot take images from external websites and copy them to Wikipedia. STATicmessage me! 18:35, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Unentilted
Hey Static, um it's me
Personal Attacks on you, well let me ask. Where You Offended by any of those words or did you think that was funny? Message me on my talk page with your answer. —Preceding undated
comment added 19:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
So youre telling me that you did not even read nor respond to the swearing?...Tell you what veiw the history of that edit and tell me what you think--MRivera25 (talk) 19:57, 11 November 2013 (UTC)MRivera25
Hi STATic VaPor. Just to let you know, you've warned the wrong user here. It was Autumnfriend who introduced the copyright violation, but you warned User talk:Magicmooseman13. Not a big deal probably, since neither editor has edited in months. But something to watch for with future taggings perhaps. Thanks. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 22:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
@Paul Erik: Hey, I used Twinkle to mark the page for deletion due to it being a copyright violation, and Twinkle automatically notifies the creator of the article of the nomination, I was not necessarily warning User talk:Magicmooseman13 for any wrong doing. STATicmessage me! 22:51, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
For most cases of G12, it would be appropriate to place the Db-copyvio-notice on the talk page of the article creator, so I'm sure that's why it's set like that. Anyway, in this case the page did not meet criteria for a G12 deletion. You might not have looked closely at the wording... from the CSD page:
Only if the history is unsalvageably corrupted should it be deleted in its entirety; earlier versions without infringement should be retained. Thanks. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs)
23:02, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I did not check the page history, I had just assumed that the biography had been like that since its creation. In the future I will check the page history before using G12. STATicmessage me! 23:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good. Thanks for your vigilance looking out for copyright violations! Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 23:12, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
BadBadNotGood
It wasn't my intention to sabotage the BBNG page; I was merely trying to add refinement, as I felt the page needed more specifications. I apologize for the misunderstanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melwhite1994 (talk • contribs) 23:36, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
It is okay, I thought that at the end there you were just ignoring my edit summaries to be disruptive, that is why I dropped the warnings on your talk page. All good though, I assumed that you were doing what you felt looked good, and not attempting to do any damage or anything like that. STATicmessage me! 23:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Joey Badass - "promotional"
Hi there. In regards to recent change to Joey Badass page, I wouldn't call what was edited as "promotional". It was his first UK magazine cover - why would that not be mentioned on his page? Further up his page it mentions "The mixtape was named the 38th best album of 2012 by Complex Magazine", far less significant. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexgreenhouse (talk • contribs) 17:37, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Ariana Grande - same thing
As in the case of Joey Badass, why would a magazine cover not be mentioned in the same way that an appearance on television would? Further up the article it reads, "Grande was also featured in Dream Magazine as the cover girl for the August 2011 issue." Again - same thing. Being featured on magazine covers is as relevant as television appearances in terms of career overview. I included details such as who wrote the piece and took the photos as that's relevant for mainstream artists in the context of magazine coverage. If there's issue with a specific use of wording please advise for future use, and in this case can be amended, but simply removing the whole sentence is rather needless. If an artist is featured on the front cover of a national magazine, that dshould be communicated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexgreenhouse (talk • contribs) 17:43, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
The difference is the magazine is not even a notable magazine, and you wrote both entries very promotional, why would we need to say who took the photos? STATicmessage me! 17:52, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Partynextdoor (album)
Hello STATicVapor,
Thank you very much for your edits to my first Wikipedia page! I was just wondering if, as I do not yet have the power to do so, you could potentially add the album's artwork to the page? Here is a link to a high-quality copy of it. PND Album Art
Good page for your first page, thank you for joining Wikipedia! I took care of the cover art too, in the future use [3] to upload album artwork, just try to make the resolution close to 300x300. STATicmessage me! 16:44, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Gunplay
He's not a big part of the Selfmade albums, but being one of the major members of MMG, those should be shown under his discography — Preceding
Actually origionally I wanted it to look red, but then I got so used to how it is now, I will just keep it that way. How does the signature appear to you before you changed it on the AfD? STATicmessage me! 17:15, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
User:MRivera25
Hey STATicVapor can you add catergories and a infobox on my user page please--MRivera25 (talk) 17:54, 15 November 2013 (UTC)MRivera25
I created a page for the Blue Chips 2 mixtape by Action Bronson & Party Supplies. I did everything however the mixtape template is messed up. I uploaded a cover and everything. It would be very much appreciated. You can find the page by going on the Action Bronson page. And I did get your message. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PyschopathicMan (talk • contribs) 06:50, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
I had just noticed that, and I fixed it. I am going to go ahead and expand it with critical reviews right now, if you could go around to the various articles (Action Bronson, Party Supplies) and link the new article. STATicmessage me! 07:02, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
2013 in hip hop
You do know at this point there are 2 weeks left in November and if any of those album's in the "unspecified" section were gonna be released in December don't you think they would have release dates and track listings and covers released already? I mean were never gonna actually get sources saying these albums are pushed to 2014 the year is just gonna end. I personally think at this point the whole unspecified section should be removed, but that's just my opinion. Koala15 (talk) 18:23, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
No necessarily on every point there. As I said, all we need is a source saying it will be releasing in 2014, then we can move in to the 2014. Maybe it would have been different if you moved it there, but no you just removed it. We should wait till at least the second week of December and then remove everything unspecified, there is definitely enough time for release dates to be announced, for the indie albums especially. We just do not know, that is why
WP:OR is not allowed. We have had a lot of sources that stated albums original scheduled for this year, were not scheduled for 2014 so that point is just moot. I mean we already trimmed that section up, it is not this long unnecessary list anymore. STATicmessage me!
18:40, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Yeah but at this point do you really think a high profile Fabolous album is gonna gonna be released in December out of nowhere? Koala15 (talk) 18:46, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
It is not really about my thoughts or doubts. You could have moved in to the 2014 article and I probably would not have a problem with it, notice I did not revert you at the album page. Once Soul Tape 3 comes out, were sure to have sources labeling it as a 2014 album. On a side note I was kinda pissed off that one editor just created the 2014 page with a bunch of indie releases and horrible formatting, when I had the page ready to create for like a month now, and I had to basically recreate it. STATicmessage me! 19:59, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar
Thanks. I truly appreciate it PyschopathicMan 07:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
This Is the End
I'm not gonna pretend the plot summary I reverted to was perfect, but your revert led to "Which he tries to kill the others, Them Franco gives Mcbride his revolver, But the gun was a fake, And He angry leaves the house." That was what I was referring to.
(speak to me)
16:50, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I patrol a lot of articles for vandalism at a very quick succession, at first sight that is what I saw it as, but as I saw when you reverted it was better before. No huge issue to bring up though. STATicmessage me! 16:54, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I apologize, I thought you were the one who reverted my edit back. My mistake, didn't mean to sound so controntational.
(speak to me)
18:13, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi I was really hoping you could help me fix this edit on the Eminem MMLP2 album article.
The Personnel section is missing the name David Brook who is a writer on "Legacy". Allmusic got it incorrect as that happens sometimes. The CD booklet will verify or here is a link to a more reliable source. thank you!!!
Sincee your warning on the lack of information on the Lil Chuckee page, it was significantly improven and it is for an artist who is of interest. I was just wondering if you knew of the reasons for its deletion this time around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpenceyT (talk • contribs) 20:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
@
WP:SALTed so no one can create it without the article getting approval from an administrator. STATicmessage me!
20:20, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
South Park season 17
Thank you for your revert on the season 17 page. I went through all the other seasons of the show just now to see where else (Part x) was used, and removed all the ones that were a similar situation to this. Amazes me that someone didn't catch this earlier. The "part x" is not appropriate for the title because it was not a part of the title. Probably for the short summary, where it can start as "Part x of y". But anyways, thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:25, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome, no problem at all. I do not contribute to the page frequently, but if I can catch vandalism every once in awhile its worth the place on my watchlist. STATicmessage me! 23:29, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. It was an issue as soon as "Black Friday" ended on a non conclusion. People just started adding the "Part 1" to it. So hopefully it will die down now. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
HeyHeyHey Calm Down buddy
Look I know I didn't have a source for the genre but you cant just delete info without disscusssion--MRivera25 (talk) 19:23, 19 November 2013 (UTC)MRivera25 message me?.
Your constant violations of
reliable sources, you restored the unsourced content without giving a reason or any sources, so you get the warning. Any unsourced content, especially subjective as genres, are subject to logical deletion the second is it questioned, and I am guessing the content had never been sourced. STATicmessage me!
19:27, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
808s & Heartbreak
You asked for a source for R&B, I gave one why you delete it when it fitted in with the guidelines? H.Mandem (talk) 20:56, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
@
sockpuppet and the IP that has been editing and reverting is you too? You also do understand that you are going to be blocked indefinitely very soon right? STATicmessage me!
21:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Swifty
I was wondering, it is true that Swifty Mcvay has not won awards but neither has Bizarre or Reef the lost cauze but they have their own page, why not Swifty. But if I could get access to the D12 page I could add each solo members' discography as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asaahil (talk • contribs) 22:45, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
@
reliable sources. Also do not make a major change to that article without discussing it first on the talk page. STATicmessage me!
23:07, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I believe there should be Swifty Mcvay and Kuniva pages, no need to be mean or anything but aren't you being a bit snobby about this? I say that you redirected the kuniva page to D12 as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asaahil (talk • contribs) 23:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
@Asaahil: You are free to comment at the AfD discussion page on why it should be kept. If anything Swifty and Kuniva are my two favorite members of D12 outside of Eminem and Proof, we just have guidelines on Wikipedia on what makes artists notable, if it was not for Eminem and D12 they would probably still be in the underground cyphers in Detroit. Unlike Proof, Mr. Porter and Bizarre those two were not covered independently in reliable sources. I probably would not have nominated it for deletion, if I did not have to revert you on all those pages you were trying to promote your article in. Also comment in this section only. STATicmessage me! 23:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
charlie wilson
i didnt notice the music genres that were reverted. However my intention was to revert his alias that you deleted. His alias a.k.a is actually "Uncle Charlie" and needs to be put back and shouldn't have been removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.236.192.175 (talk) 23:18, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
That is a copyright violation and cannot be used on Wikipedia. STATicmessage me! 17:24, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
If it's a copyright violation, why not cite the original source and not the infringing YouTube page? —C.Fred (talk) 21:08, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
@C.Fred: I could not find a direct source, but I found a posting of the video on Rap-Up's website, and I updated the Akon page accordingly with the source. I am not sure if the name is his legal birth name, view his bio and you will understand what I mean by that. STATicmessage me! 03:37, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Alright fair enough. But since he says his name, it should be included on his page... Contactman7 (talk) 20:50, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for making this edit. It's bizarre, as I actually made that same edit here, yet somehow undid it in my subsequent edit. Weird. :/ Thanks again. Acalamari 16:35, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome, no problem I barely caught it too. Maybe you had edit conflicted yourself and undid your last edit, it has happened to me before too. STATicmessage me! 17:02, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Shoka1234
If it had been me, I would have blocked for longer; however I defer to the blocking admin. If it recurs he can always be blocked for longer, or indef. Daniel Case (talk) 04:15, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
hey
Well Finally You thank me for editing and i cant help swearing, it's who i am so its ganna take me a while to chill out alright--MRivera25 (talk) 19:28, 21 November 2013 (UTC)MRivera25
Hi. I blocked this IP and left a note on their talk page. It seems that you are aware of a related IP that was recently blocked for similar editing. I wonder if you could please watch the IP's talk page, to see if they provide a reasonable explanation. TigerShark (talk) 16:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
On further investigation, it seems they have been IP hopping for months, so I have range blocked them. TigerShark (talk) 16:25, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, User: Mark Arsten attempted a range block, I am not sure what happened that they returned today, but thanks their IP range is very limited, so a range block should do it. STATicmessage me! 17:01, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I only rangeblocked for one week, so my block expired yesterday, I think. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Oh, okay, looks like they were sure anticipating the end of that week. STATicmessage me! 17:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey, this is Jibbz
Every day I go on to lplive.net or linkinparklive.com, well they're the same website, anyway, that was the website that I found out that Linkin Park is gonna headline the Download Festival on June 14th next year. The band has alot of things plan for next year like more than 20 things, right now I'm not confirm if the band is gonna play 2 set on the 14th of June yet, but I know they are playing all the songs in order from the album Hybrid Theory which they call it the "Hybrid Theory set". Tickets had already gone online for the fanclub and LPUNDERGROUND members. The band consider next year as a "Come-Back year". They said that the next album isn't gonna be like Living Things, A Thousand Suns, not even Minutes To Midnight, so that leave the style of Hybrid Theory and Meteora (Rock and Hip Hop mix [Nu Metal]). All they want is to get their fans they've lost in 2007 back. I'll let you know what other plans the band have for next year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.1 Jibbz (talk • contribs)
The content addition needed to be back by third party
Hi! How are you Static? I am coming here because I know you are the main contributor to The Marshall Mathers LP 2 article. I am concerned with the Critical reception section. It is too long, the most important reviews should be only present, not every single one. I suggest you do some trim or maybe ask a copy-editor/editor which is interested in those sections to help you/us (the community) with it. Cheers! — Tomíca(T2ME) 17:37, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey Tomica, I am good how about you? Funny, I had forgotten to do that. I usually let the album sit a few weeks after release, to let all the reviews come in and then trim the fat that usually can be found in that section. Thanks for reminding me, I should be getting to that shortly. STATicmessage me! 18:07, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
I am fine too, thanks for asking. Well, I just went along through the article and thought it would smart for me to write to you, cause I know you want to take care of it hehe. Cheers! — Tomíca(T2ME) 18:10, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Waaalah already done, looks a bit long still, but I came to the point where I was not sure what to remove. I took my eyes off the section for awhile and it sure got out of hand. And of course, its an amazing album, I would want the article to look as best as possible :) STATicmessage me! 18:27, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Indeed is. I gave it a try, and I really like it, especially "Rap God" and "The Monster" (ofc that one, I am a Rih fan :P). I hope it hits number one next week on the Hot 100 [The Monster]. They will make history. — Tomíca(T2ME) 18:36, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Eminem really knows how to make those hits, he made a fun song of him just rapping his ass off as fast as he could [Rap God], and it debuted in the top 10 of the Hot 100. From the second I heard Monster I told myself easy number one record right there. STATicmessage me! 18:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Shannon Leto
According to
WP:MUSICBIO, Members of two notable bands are generally notable enough for their own article. Thirty Seconds to Mars and The Wondergirls (not counting the Street Drum Corps) seem like notable bands to me. And Leto also had an acting career. You should restore its links. Same thing for Kevin Drake, who has worked with Thirty Seconds to Mars and Polaroid Kiss.--Earthh (talk
) 18:28, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
The most important point being, "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself", which the subject lacks. Also "acting career" is stretching it quite a bit, this is not mentioned in the article and IMDb only contains uncredited appearances, extra work (only one case) and two spots in TV show episodes. Either way, I waited 10 days to see if someone was going to contest the redirect and no one did, that is why I used Twinkle to remove the redirect links. Currently am in the process of restoring them. STATicmessage me! 18:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Snoop Lion or Snoop Dogg
Hi STATicVapor! Snoop Dogg changed his name, a couple of months, or even a year ago, to Snoop Lion because he was pursuing a career in Reggae music. I saw that his name on his Wikipedia page was Snoop Dogg, therefore I changed it via iPhone. But after I changed it I realize that at the very top it still read Snoop Dogg and I did not know how to change it. I appreciate that you sent me a message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikalaka (talk • contribs) 22:35, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
@
WP:COMMONNAME. Snoop Dogg remains the article title so the infobox must match that. View the article talk page for the various discussions related to what the article should be titled. STATicmessage me!
22:43, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Young Montana
Can I create a page called Young Montana (rapper)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendra Citizen (talk • contribs) 16:02, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
I see that you have created at least three accounts, why? STATicmessage me! 17:14, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) This nonsense has gone on long enough... socks blocked, hoax articles deleted and salted. --Kinut/c 19:43, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much Kinu! STATicmessage me! 19:44, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Bound 2
Hi! Got a little query in regards to "
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) 19:30, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
@Djunbalanced: Hey good job noticing that, but if you see this, the song did peak at #55. This most likely occurred during the week of the album's release, so that link should replace the current ref on the page. STATicmessage me! 19:35, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Delusional Thomas
nominate
) 16:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
this is jahlil beats
can you put the the "kingtut" single on my page as well as the "I'ma Boss remix" and ace hood's "BLAB" on my singles chart and change my pic to my new LE3 cover thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.10.48 (talk) 07:34, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
yes this is jahlil
send me ya email so that i can hit you there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.10.48 (talk) 07:52, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
WP:BLANKING, editors -including unregistered IPs- may remove messages from their own talk pages at will. Thanks, — Kralizec! (talk
) 22:16, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
@Kralizec!: Thanks for the message, but if you read my edit notice I definitely know what WP:BLANKING is and means. Last time I saw, the IP had been blocked, so I assumed there was an active block notice on their talk page, however after I reverted I noticed they were no longer blocked. STATicmessage me! 22:25, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
You may wish to review WP:BLANKING then, as even active block notices may be removed (the exception is for decline unblock requests). — Kralizec! (talk) 22:34, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Verification required
Can you please prove to me that by going to the source listed that it is definitely showing the peaks for the Bubbling Under chart? If you can't the information should not be there, correct or not, or the tag should remain. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 05:40, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Do you have any proof or indication that is not the peaks for the Bubbling Under positions? This version of the template is used throughout the encyclopedia, if it was not the correct place, someone would have deleted and removed the template version from
Template talk: Singlechart, because it is completely pointless to mark this one article when it is used throughout music articles. This template is the only way to get to bubbling under peaks, because Billboard does not just let you scroll to them in the chart histories, this was a malfunction upon their website redesign, and has been discussed before. I uphold verifiability and accuracy to the highest degree, I would not fight this if it was bs, but its not, that is the correct link to Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart histories on Billboard. STATicmessage me!
06:06, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not saying that it isn't the correct chart positions for the bubbling under chart, I'm saying that when goes to the source, one cannot verify from the information shown that it is for the Bubbling Under chart. A reader would not know if it is correct just because Wikipedia editors say it is. It is not a malfunction of the Billboard website, it's because they don't identify any charts by name anymore on the chart history pages if the chart isn't one published on Billboard.com (Bubbling Under, Rhythmic, Mainstream Rock, a number of others). I didn't know that you could put anything on Wikipedia as long as one can't prove it isn't true. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 06:21, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Also, I was actually marking multiple articles and have marked others, not just the one. I was planning to continue by going through Category:Singlechart usages for Billboardbubbling100. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 06:34, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Well it is about to time to stop doing that without visiting
Template talk: Singlechart. The template version was created a long time ago, obviously by someone that knew what they were doing. Would you like me to point you to various situations where reliable sources also reported the same number as the link the template leads to? I have been here long and frequently enough where you should just either take my word for it, or take it to the template's talk page. Anyone familiar with the template and music song articles already knows about everything I have already told you. Lets use the last archive.is snapshot as an example, since the peaks from this week have not been replicated yet. The same position detailed here, the number one at the time was "With Ur Love" by Cher Lloyd. By using {{singlechart|Billboardbubbling100|1|artist=Cher Lloyd}} it leads to this url, which surprisingly replicates this position. STATicmessage me!
06:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I brought it up months ago
Template:Singlechart, who created it, and how each chart is assigned a unique number (Template:BillboardChartNum). The average reader cannot just take the word of an experienced editor who say "trust me, it's right". The source itself must verify the information, and the reader will only see a peak position that matches the article but without confirmation it's for that specific chart. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me
07:23, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
It is not up for random readers to check verification it is the job of the editors. I just proved and explained to you how it works, and that the information is correct. Unless you get consensus on the template's talk page you should not go around marking the pages as you were. The verification is in the source that the template cites. Obviously your message there was ignored as it made no sense, we have it that it always correctly links to the Bubbling Under chart, just because it doesn't say BUBBLING UNDER HOT 100, in big letters means nothing, the content and positions are still there. Thank god we can find it by using this template, because if it was not for it, only subscribers would be able to post Bubbling Under positions on Wikipedia, and when that is the case no one can see them except the subscribers. This is a good thing that we can actually view and report this information using the template, because we would not be able to without it. STATicmessage me! 07:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
You haven't proven anything. The sources are there so a reader can verify what they see on Wikipedia is actually true. And you don't need a subscription to Billboard to use their search tool. This link is actually better than the single chart template because not only does it identify the peak position, it clearly identifies the chart as well as when the song peaked (the links that singlechart point to on Billboard.com don't show any kind of date). --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 08:16, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello STATicVapor. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Emmsjé Gauti, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Seems to be a charted artist, claim of importance is sufficient for passing A7. Thank you. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:56, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Please don't reinstate declined speedy deletions. If you think the article should be deleted, please take it to AfD. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:20, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
@Martijn Hoekstra: Where is this claim of charting that would be the article's only indication of notability? STATicmessage me! 16:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not 100% sure, but what seems to be the icelandic national charts website seems to have him listed. Unfortunately, I don't speak any icelandic, so I'm going on a bit of a gamble here. At any rate, this is clearly more than a garage band which A7-band is geared at. Note that A7 has no mention of the word 'notability'. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:28, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
If that website is cited, then no I just translated the references and neither say anything about charting. It does not look like either site is the icelandic national charts website, so I am not sure where you getting that from. Heck one of the refs looks just like a link to buy his music. Only been a member of not notable groups, has only collaborated with not notable artists, and is not signed to any notable record label, looks like the rap equivalent of a "garage band".STATicmessage me! 16:34, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, apparently we have very different definitions of what a garage band is. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:38, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
So you are not going to admit you were wrong about the charting? Now that we solved that, what is the indication of any significance that the article currently asserts? STATicmessage me! 16:40, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I can easily say that I'm not sure it did. I said so (or "admitted" if that makes you feel better) right of the bat. The fact stands that this is not A7 material. I used to play in a band. Had great fun there. A couple of nice gigs too. But eventually, just a couple of mates playing in a band. Something Wikipedia should never have an article about. Had an article on our band emerged, that would have been a classic case of A7-band. That is a clearly different situation than this artist. This is an artist that is signed to a label (no idea of its importance in Iceland, could be crap, but I don't know that), released an album and singles. That is enough of a claim of importance to me. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:46, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Drake - Too Much
Sampha is not a featured artist on the song. The vocals are sampled from a Sampha song [8]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.M.O.E.2 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Look at the source cited for the single release on the Too Much (Drake song) page, Sampha is credited as a featured artist on there and on the single cover. STATicmessage me! 00:28, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
That's not an official artwork, and regardless there is not a more valid source for this than the album booklet where it clearly explains that the song samples Sampha - Too Much and does not bill him as a feature artist, all the other songs with features have them listed, Too Much is a solo song. It should be changed in the album page along with the discography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.M.O.E.2 (talk • contribs) 03:47, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
The artwork was taken from the official website for the biggest radio station network in the United Kingdom, so I am guessing it is official. A single credit differs sometimes from album credits, but I will change it on the album page. STATicmessage me! 04:27, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Single credits may differ occasionally, but that is when it is re-released or remixed, and neither is the case for Too Much. Also what goes recorded as the charting single is what is officially released by the label, with Too Much not featuring Sampha [9][10]. This can change (example, Wale - Bad [11] added Rihanna after an official remix was released) but for Too Much, it never was changed because the song does not actually feature Sampha and was never re-released to change the credits, only a sample was credited. The artwork just does not seem very official either, it can't be found anywhere other than BBC radio and even then no larger than 160x160. If a major artist would release an official artwork, it would be available throughout the internet on blogs and such. Also, Sampha does not register in soundscan databases for sales [12]
I just feel it should be changed, so much outweighs one UK radio site reporting it as featuring Sampha. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.M.O.E.2 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
You realize that site is the official radio release site for the entire United Kingdom right? There is not a radio station every little town like in the United States. There a little bit more reliable than blogs. The single credits Sampa but the album does not, that is why it charted in the US just with Drake credited. Artists are credited only on the album or only on the song rarely, but it does occur and I could name many examples. STATicmessage me! 22:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
I understand what BBC radio is, I'm not discrediting them as a source but the artwork is not official and I'm not sure A UK radio station crediting a UK artist as a feature overrules worldwide Soundscan information, billboard, label releases and the album booklet. Theres not even additional vocals listed, its just a sample of Sampha - Too Much. If it was a feature in anyway, it would register in the soundscan database and be credited. And it doesn't, there is no feature. Whether BBC radio wants to credit him or not, that doesn't mean he's a featured artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.M.O.E.2 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
So if it is not official, what forum or blog did the cover originate from? BBC Radio does not use fan-made covers, if there is no cover they use the album cover, as they did for "Pound Cake". Discrediting them with your own
original research is not going to work. As I already explained those sources are mimicking the album credits, single credits can differ. Also sample singers are frequently credited as featured artists, like how Dido is credited on Eminem's "Stan". BBC is not providing favoritism because he is an English artist, I am not sure where you are getting these assumptions from. All the sources you mentioned are refering to the song as a part of the album, not as a single. STATicmessage me!
01:40, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Again, Radio 1 does not determine whether an artist is featured or not.
Clear Channel Communications' playlist lists Drake as a featured artist on "Versace" [13] but he is not credited on the single [14]
. This is the same situation
The label determines what song info is submitted to soundscan and Mediabase. Mediabase does not refer to it as part of an album, it refers to it as a single song and tracks it as that from there on out[15] and Sampha is not listed. The argument using Stan is what I'm basically trying to say. Yes its a well known and prominent sample, but Dido is credited as a featured artist on the song. [16]. If Sampha was ever intended to be listed as a feature he would've officially been listed so in the albums booklet.
The only thing I'm assuming is that the artwork isn't official. It just seems very questionable too me and I wouldn't hold my basis on that at all, because I'm not sure where the artwork is from. All of the other artworks for singles have been uploaded in high quality either on Drake's blog site[17] or his soundcloud [18]. Too base whether an artist is featured or not on a low quality 160x160 artwork that is nowhere on the internet other than the one site doesn't seem correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.M.O.E.2 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Again you are missing the point, the song charted in the United States as the album track, not as a single, and Sampha is credited on the single version, which was just recently released, after "Too Much" ceased is US chart activity. And I feel like I am repeating myself, sometimes samples are credited as featured artists, and sometimes the featuring credits are not exactly the same as they are for the single as they are for the album. The last point is just frankly not true, and we base our content on reliable sources, not primary sources and your
what do you mean? --Raúl Romero (talk) 16:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
if this is isn't your day have a break bro, but don't be a pain, because i have like 50 accounts here lol
Self Made 3
What's up Bro. I'm John "SK" Mcgee. I produced the Omarion "Say Don't Go" record on Self made 3. I decided to shorten my name to $K. That's why I edit'ed the article. Let me know if theres any other way I can change it to only $K without it being changed back. Thanks man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnskmcgee (talk • contribs) 20:53, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, you were credited as "John "SK" McGee" in the liner notes, and that is what we go by in album tracklists, rather then the common name or regular stylization of their name. STATicmessage me! 04:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. It is not appropriate to speedy delete this disambiguation page. There are several songs called "Forbidden Fruit", and so they are all listed on this page. The J. Cole song needs a disambiguated title. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:43, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
As I pointed out, there is currently a requested move going on, so you cannot under any circumstance move the page. You could have at least got the artist's name right in the title. STATicmessage me! 04:47, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
No, I could not add the dot, because an article already existed with that name. But an admin can do the move for you. I cannot understand why you are doing what you are doing, as you must see that it is obviously wrong. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
So you should have not the moved the page at all, I am sure you must know that you cannot just move a page yourself while there is a requested move currently on going, at the point of your moving consensus was split, not even in favor of moving. @BDD:, you were involved in the RM discussion, could you move the page back to the original title until the discussion is closed? STATicmessage me! 05:52, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
When I did the move, I was not aware of the move request or the talk page discussion, or I would simply have commented there. Sorry, I jumped the gun, but you are merely delaying the inevitable. -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:16, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Can't Hold Us
I live in the SF Bay Area, and the Graton Casino ad jingle/Macklemore song chorus is burned into my brain. Here is a citation. Go ahead and use it.
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RE: BANGERZ
Thanks for letting me know, I'll keep my eyes peeled! WikiRedactor (talk) 20:34, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Kid Ink My Own Lane
Kid Ink tweeted yesterday that him and August Alsina have a track together. I have no idea how to cite it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsg1294 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
@Rsg1294: Okay, thanks for telling me, I am going to readd it, now cited in a second. STATicmessage me! 07:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello
Explain me this. This edition not is mind, belongs to
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) 00:24, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
@
Social 50 rank is notable at all? And in what GAs or FAs is their social 50 rank even mentioned. STATicmessage me!
00:31, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
The Social 50 is a list popularity chart, and she's in this chart 52 weeks. And about christmas kisses or wishes, the references here, here, here and [4]— Preceding
Pop artists frequently appear on the chart many weeks in a row, until I see that independent third party reliable sources outside of Billboard covering it as something significant, then the content does not need to be included. And that is enough sourcing, go ahead and add it to the discography or the article prose, as that place in the main article is for studio albums or major works.STATicmessage me! 00:49, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
We need to talk.
Please actually read this before you flag me again.
The other day, I asked you firmly, but with no disrespect, to not bother me about these things. I did not have my facts straight, and I was wrong. Okay, I admit that.
But the problem I have now, is that you just sent me a message saying I was harassing you, and that is not true. I'm wondering if you have some sort of problem with me, and I don't know why you would because you don't even know me, but it kind of seems that way. I was not harassing you at all, and I'm not harassing you now. I was just talking to you as an adult. That's how you want to be treated right? You're not a kid, so I'm not going to talk to you like one. I don't appreciate you leaving those threats in my messages saying you're going to block me from editing when I didn't even harass you.
If you don't want me to do that kind of editing anymore, then I won't. If it's the fact that I even objected about it to begin with that bothered you, then you could have just told me. You didn't have to send me a warning like that. I just want you to acknowledge why I'm talking to you now. With all due respect I don't believe that was harassment at all. I wasn't even profane last time I spoke with you.
Please keep those things in mind, okay? I'll adhere to the rules from now on, just as you will I'm sure, and let's move on.
If you want to say anything, feel free to write me back.
Thank you. --Eddster (talk) 16:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
STATicVapor I am very sorry about messing with peoples talk pages.I did not mean to delete things off of their page i was trying to send them a message and I must hit some wrong buttons I am new so I do not quite kknow how things work.Thank you for informing me about my mistakes.Naynaysissom message me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naynaysissom (talk • contribs) 01:40, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
2.1 Jibbz - Linkin Park ROCK AM RING & ROCK IM PARK
Linkin Park has confirmed that they will help headline the Rock Am Ring and Rock Im Park Festivals next year. I seen it on some website, but I forgot but I'm sure of it, its even listed as part of their 2014 shows on lplive.net. The shows will take place in June 2014, the Rock Am Ring set is on the 5th, I'm not sure about the other one yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.1 Jibbz (talk • contribs) 18:28, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Please take the time to
reliable third party sources (not fanblogs or forums) and then you can add it to the article. STATicmessage me!
18:53, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Infinite
Hey Static. Listen, since you're into album articles, would you mind posting a comment at the
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) 21:32, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Crazy how I had been thinking about nominating it for reassessment around the same time you did. Never commented on a reassessment page, so I hope I did what you were looking for. STATicmessage me! 21:46, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
2.1 Jibbz
Hey STATicVapor, check out (http://wiki.lpassociation.com/index.php/Rock_Am_Ring_%26_Rock_Im_Park#2012:) I designed this just today, all the information on this page are true, I used some of Wikipedia info on the first 2 paragraph, I'm sory for doing that though but I couldn't think on how to introduct what RAR and RIP are.
The Jokerr
Thank you for the help with The Jokerr wiki and keeping it from deletion. I'm currently working with other people in finding resources and to have people rewrite what i come with to a much more comfortable level of reading, i will be working on it over the next week, just busy right now. Again, thank you. 24.113.28.129 (talk) 22:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC) 12-10-13
The Monster video teaser
What do you think about it? I can't wait, it hyped me so bad! :) — Tomíca(T2ME) 23:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Damn, thanks for sending that my way. Well, I am officially more amped for the video. Looks like it is going to be an amazing video, and we knew it had to live up to the epicness of Love the Way You Lie, and it looks like they are going to definitely do that. STATicmessage me! 23:41, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Yeah probably even better than that one, which was kind of epic. Rihanna also tweeted this a couple of days ago, I just can't... excitement is in the air lol. — Tomíca(T2ME) 09:20, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Re: protection
Sorry, I think I must have been looking at the wrong tab for the page logs. Extended to 2 months. Thanks for letting me know. :-) Thingg⊕⊗ 20:06, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Haim (not indie pop)
Apparently you didn't check the Haim talk page before reverting my changes: I left an extensive entry supporting the fact that Haim is not indie pop.
This is my first time doing this (using talk pages, having an "editing war"). You seem more experienced, so feel free to give me any pointers. Otherwise, please respond to my comments on the Haim talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indiesoc (talk • contribs) 21:45, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Also, realize that you are asking me to prove a negative (that they are NOT indie pop) with my cites. As you no doubt realize from your extensive history of editing, this is always a difficult proposition. But, I think my entry on the talk page sufficiently covers this issue. I am happy to use cite where Haim is called a pop-rock band, such as on Allmusic.com.
Indiesoc (talk) 21:50, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate that you are putting your reasoning and are willing to actually discuss the changes to the TDG article before blindly reverting them without giving a reason (like Teressa44 was doing before you). I am up for discussing this further at the talk page. Thank you again, cheers!TJD2 (talk) 05:56, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello 2
...In previous changes have deleted some texts. Ep songs are in another section. Give me time to fix some things. And check out other artist discographyes please. PS: Don't forget
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) 16:28, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
You chose not to respond to my earlier message and continued to edit war on
That is not enough, why can you not just wait till RAW tonight and see what happens? STATicmessage me! 17:51, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
MMLP2
Per your revert, why include the Los Angeles Times and not the New York Times, Boston Globe, Miami Herald? Pitchfork is less biased, plus it's a negative review which balances out the stats.EGorodetsky (talk) 21:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
The section is not meant to be "balanced out", it is meant to summarize the general consensus by the most major publications. Those other newspapers would be included, but it is a "ratings template", and at least I know that NY Times and the Boston Globe only give reviews and do not give actual ratings, like the LA Times does. STATicmessage me! 21:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
R. Kelly
The content I'm trying to add isn't defamatory, non-neutral, or in violation of any LEAD and BLP guidelines. It is:
Notable - many people know R. Kelly more for his legal battles than his music. As per WP:LEAD and WP:BLP, "controversy" should be referenced and given appropriate weight.
Non-defamatory - the statements are true, independently-researched by a paper of record (Chicago Sun Times), and reference public records and court documents.
Neutral - facts are stated dispassionately, without opinion or bias.
Yes you it is and you are definitely not editing with a
WP:NPOV. Not once in the article is it mentioned and referenced that he has been accused of statutory rape or the word "statutory rape" at all.STATicmessage me!
16:45, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
That's the legal definition of statutory rape - intercourse with someone under the state's legal age of consent. It's just a more succinct way of describing it. However, as some states use different language, I will change that to "allegations of underage sex" in reference to the settled cases. Knarfin (talk) 22:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Seek discussion on the article talk page to achieve consensus per
, and Africa Express are all world music collectives formed by Damon Albarn that were recorded with African musicians in the African language, making them world music records.
Not only is
Trip-hop album at heart due to all of the genre bending, and the sophomore album, Demon Days mixed Alternative Hip-Hop and Alternative Rock with elements of trip-hop in it as well, with their third album Plastic Beach mixing electronic music with as alternative hip-hop, which leaves The Fall
being much like Gorillaz self-titled album in terms of how prevalent elements of trip-hop are, especially when compared to the other two records.
This can be covered in a "musical style" section in the article, only the genre that he is most known for goes in the infobox, not every single subgenre you can think of. STATicmessage me! 20:27, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm guessing that since you already deleted the "musical style" part of the Gorillaz' wikipedia article, you'll do the same thing if I add one to Damon Albarn's article if the sentences have "unreliable sources" or are "unsourced". Since Damon covers many genres throughout his career and doesn't usually stick to just one, should genre even be a part of his infobox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheCyberToon3000 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Per
WP:SUBJECTIVE like genres.. Maybe one or two of the very most significant genres to his career, but not 20-30 genres like there was before. STATicmessage me!
22:46, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
SOHH
I think they need to re asses them then, from a quick glance at the SOHH article i can see the site has been covered by Rolling Stone, CNN and Wired. Koala15 (talk) 20:42, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Notice how old the coverage is from though, as they existed and were popular in the early days of hip hop blogs, as they were basically one of the only ones. But again their significance or notability for an article means nothing,
About.com, all have articles but they are not reliable either. SOHH is a blog in basically every sense of the word, and is unreliable. It is not too hard to find a direct source to the magazine content. Not much discussion [[5]], but if there was another one again I can tell you it would have the same response. STATicmessage me!
20:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Ok, well my main point is if you see an unreliable source add a reliable one instead of removing it all together. Koala15 (talk) 21:02, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
I did not remove the content did I? It is on the user that added the content to supply a reliable source, it is their
WP:BURDEN, not the person that stumbles upon unreliable blog sources that should not be in a encyclopedia article. STATicmessage me!
21:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
The "better source?" tag would be better to use in this situation for the future. I mean if the blog is notable enough to have a Wikipedia page it can't be that bad. Koala15 (talk) 21:12, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Actually, it is.
RapGenius, Media Take Out, Gawker and The Sun among many others have article. Having an article means nothing about being reliable in any way. So how are direct cites from Vibe and XXL not better than a unreliable blog that sticks a bunch of random information from different places into one article. STATicmessage me!
21:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
OK! thanks :)
ok! the source is a tweet of chartnews :) --Estela Reynolds (talk) 21:12, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
As far as I know their Twitter is not verified and they are not a reliable source. Sales figures require a highly reliable source to report. STATicmessage me! 21:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Nominating Hiphop-N-More for deletion
Hi, I read your message for deletion of the captioned page and appreciate your input. However, kindly clarify how your reasoning falls between the top three reasonings of Wiki's talk page guidelines. Since, it is neither refuting the central point of my article nor are you establishing that the article misquotes some source. There is also no evidence to support your contradiction.
I request you to provide the same so that the article can be improvised.
Hello, the discussion has nothing to do with talk page guidelines. I do not have much idea what you are talking about. STATicmessage me! 04:43, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
URGENT VANDALISM TO FLO RIDA WIKI PAGE
Hello, Some vandalist removed all mentions of FLO RIDA song for charity BOOTY ON THE FLOOR he did with Marc Mysterio. Can this edit be reverted as it was highly publicized and well sourced.
Can you please go back to a previous version of FLO RIDA page from august 2013 and re-add these well sourced info on the song and release? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.107.8.27 (talk) 20:45, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Why did you undo it? I wrote the real name of the song and linked to the video that proves it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.118.90.252 (talk) 03:47, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
No it is not, but nice try. STATicmessage me! 06:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
T.I.
the paperwork you are referring to and what the album suggests are two different things. paperwork as in documents is not what tip was referring to in the title he's using it as two separate words like paper trail, trouble man for example. ps. love this life was not the first single off trouble man either ball is the lead single go get just came out first which is why I deleted love this love from those singles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaymo198230 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Do you have a reliable source that calls it "Paper Work" and "Love This Life" was the first song released from that album and it appears on the album. Of course not the lead single, but still a single. STATicmessage me! 16:55, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
whn he spoke on the title he said when all else fails he's gonna make that paper work. those are two separate words just thank me when the album drops. love this life was not the fist single and shouldn't be labeled as such. go get it came out first but ball is the lead single off trouble man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaymo198230 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Every single reliable source says "Paperwork" we are not going to change Wikipedia to what you want to think it is. STATicmessage me! 17:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, Love This Life isn't a single it's a song that ended up as a bonus track...The only singles were Go Get It and Ball. Trap Back Jumpin and Hello were promotional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.69.134.162 (talk) 21:00, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
All were released for retail sale as singles to iTunes, end of story. There is no made up rule that a song must be sent to radio to be a single, "Love This Life" was even sent to radio, and it is not a bonus track, its a deluxe edition track. STATicmessage me! 22:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
I know I rarely ever talk to you anymore but, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Just spreading some WikiLove and I thank you so much for your service to the Wikipedia community. Specifically, the WikiProject Hip Hop! If you see this after Christmas then Merry Belated Christmas! You know because of family, travel and stuff. See ya. :) 11Block |talk 20:38, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
FAC comment?
Hi. Would you be interested in voicing your support (or oppose/comment) at the
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) 03:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Personal Attack
Just wanting to let you know, I saw your
personal attack, so please don't be a hypocrite. However, if you think I made a mistake, or if there is something that I don't know, please reply to this message ASAP. Thanks. TheTriple M
18:53, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
@
genre warring, seems exponential worse to me. I probably should not have put that last part and I did sort of regret pressing enter after, but its not like I could go back and change it. But this is not the first time he/she misused the warning template on my talk page, just because someone reverts you, does not mean you can slap a edit warring warning on their talk page. STATicmessage me!
20:37, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: Hmm, I see. Still, you should try to remain civil, especially when you are being insulted. But don't worry, I understand that you have been provoked. No worries. TheTriple M 15:36, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Sarkodie
I wasn't the one who edited it. I always login whenever I edit and I provide references to support my edits. I only reverted your edit because I don't want you to get the impression that the info the ip user provided is wrong. If you think it doesn't belong in the lead paragraph, I'll add it to the body paragraph. Happy Holidays to you. versace1608 (talk) 20:27, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh okay, thanks for clarifying that. I actually gave Sarkodie a chance a chance and I enjoy his music so I watch listed it so I can keep an eye on vandalism and unsourced/incorrect additions. But thanks again for catching that. STATicmessage me! 20:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Justin Bieber - Journals - Writer Credit
Hello,
You keep undoing a revision to the writers credits for the Justin Beiber Track "Memphis" off of Journals. The track produced by Diplo is missing the co-production/writing credit to Djemba Djemba|Andrew Swanson.
If Diplo's SoundCloud said anything about this not notable person sure we could include it, but their SoundCloud is not a reliable source. Find a
reliable source that reported it and the content may be added. STATicmessage me!
03:04, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Check the Diplo soundcloud info section. Also, where are you even getting the track list it's not out. Where's your reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andswan (talk • contribs) 05:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Did you check it yet? Don't ignore me because you've been corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.213.143.125 (talk) 06:46, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Relax, I see that now, go ahead and add the producer credit back. I just found it odd that person had not been added originally when someone added the credits. STATicmessage me! 07:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
hey STATic VaPor
I'm new to doing edits here. I'm also the actor who played the role in the film, my credit is listed on the IMDB page for the film. Happy Holidays.
best-
david saucedo/12-25-2013 Dlux58 (talk) 05:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
@
verify content in upcoming films, so not random people can not attempt to insert their names in articles. STATicmessage me!
05:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Not sure how what other source to cite other then IMDB. I looked to see what source was cited for my fellow cast members that are listed on the page and could not find one. Happy New Year
David 12/28/2013 Dlux58 (talk) 14:16, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
I was not aware of that as I had just begun watching the page, can you confirm that all the other cast listed there are correct? I am going to go ahead and restore your credit. STATicmessage me! 18:12, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
verifiable now and in the future, also it looks a thousand times better. STATicmessage me!
17:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
Ok, thank you for your understanding. Next time I'll add the sources, I just didn't know that you also have to add them when the information is only confirmed on personnel sites of the artists like Twitter or Facebook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abgrenv (talk • contribs) 11:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
@
reliable third party source, but at the very least a citation to the announcement on social media is just fine.STATicmessage me!
18:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Wizkid
Hi Static, I need your input. A newly registered user made an edit to
Wizkid's article changing the years active from 2001-present to 2010-present. The edit is currently pending because of the protection lock on the page. Wizkid released his first commercial song in 2010 but recorded with M.I, Banky W., and Naeto C in 2009. He also released a non commercial album titled Lil Prinz in 2001 when he was 11. Should the years active be kept to 2001-present (keeping in mind Lil Prinz) or should it be changed to 2009 (the time he started collaborating with the aforementioned artists) - present? versace1608 (talk
) 02:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
I changed it back. Generally the "years active" should begin whenever their first recorded project/song is released, whether it be a mainstream commercial release or underground release. As far as I can tell he should be definitely listed with 2001 as his "debut year" per say. STATicmessage me! 04:10, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Static! versace1608 (talk) 04:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Lil Wayne Genre: Should it include Rock?
Hi STATicVapor!
I noticed that you reverted my addition of Rock Music to Lil Wayne's Genre list.
Please note that in his article:
"Following the success of Tha Carter III, Lil Wayne decided to record a rock album...."
Jaychan00 (talk) 20:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Yes he recorded a rap-rock album, but is he a rock artist? No, not at all. As my edit summary stated, genre changes in the infobox need to be discussed at Talk: Lil Wayne. STATicmessage me! 20:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Demetrice Jackson
What possessed you to delete the page? Please respond with a logical answer. Thanks. Urbaninformative (talk) 22:30, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
@
WP:MUSICBIO. Sorry but unsourced claims about helping start a yet to be notable record label and a few minor jobs as an extra do not really indicate the notability needed for a Wikipedia article. STATicmessage me!
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doe B until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tom Danson (talk) 17:07, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
TDE
Black Friday and Overly Dedicated are both available on
Amazon.com not only iTunes, and they were actually released to digital retailers first, before later being released for free online, same as Setbacks and LTM.1Sire (talk
) 02:19, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
They are definitly different compared to Setbacks and LTM, but I agree with you that we should list them and I restored it. STATicmessage me! 02:59, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
LOEGz
Hi, STATic! I remade the article for League of Extraordinary Gz. I included more references that indicate importance of the subject. If you could please review it and help me improve upon the article that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Malcolmrevere (talk) 04:07, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Welcome to the 2014 WikiCup!
Hello STATicVapor, and welcome to the 2014 WikiCup! Your submission page can be found here. The competition will begin at midnight tonight (UTC). There have been a few small changes from last year; the rules can be read in full at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring, and the page also includes a summary of changes. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work, and nominated, in 2014 is eligible for points in the competition- the judges will be checking! As ever, this year's competition includes some younger editors. If you are a younger editor, you are certainly welcome, but we have written an advice page at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Advice for younger editors for you. Please do take a look. Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! J Milburn (talk·contribs), The ed17 (talk·contribs) and Miyagawa (talk·contribs) 17:33, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Paranormal Activity: The Marked Ones cast
As far as I can tell the cast listed was in the film. I worked with most of them and I also saw a screening at Paramount Studios last month. Thanks for the help and have a great new year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlux58 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Okay thanks a bunch, the page has been vandalized a lot recently so just making sure. You also have a great new year. STATicmessage me! 03:08, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
hey, need your help/advise, how do i remove a link that shows up when you click on my name? the link is for a professional boxer with the same name and that's not me !!thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlux58 (talk • contribs) 06:00, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
@Dlux58: Okay I removed the link, in the future you just have to edit the page and remove the [[]] brackets from around the word/name. Also in the future, add new messages in this section to keep everything together. STATicmessage me! 07:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Rap God - by Eminem
I am the one that is saying that there is brief clips of some of Gustave Doré's works shown in this music video. I have found another Wikipedia source that claims the video shows a clip of Arachne, here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne#In_popular_culture . In the video it is clearly apparent that the image of Arachne along with the other images are the work of the famous Gustave Doré. I was also wondering why you felt the need to remove this post which is in fact true(without a "formal" citation) while the preceding sentence "There are also references to The Matrix, The Walking Dead, Hellraiser..." is not cited but left in the article. I was also wondering if it is possible to leave the edit I put in originally without a citation or to use the actual video as a citation, because if anyone were to do any actual research one would be able to easily see these are the works of Doré as they are very famous engravings and the artist had a very unique and easily identifiable body of work upon viewing said video. Let me know if this is possible or if a citation can be made, as I think it is important that viewers of the video be able to find out what images are in actual use as the scenes depicted show scenes taken from the Divine Comedy are in use because of the title and references to Eminem being a "Rap God" and give more clarity to video as a whole and why these images are in the production. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephensjz (talk • contribs) 01:36, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Just
reliable source for the content addition to establish that it is not only in the video, but also notable for inclusion in the article. If it was significant that he used images by Gustave Doré then certainly reliable sources would have picked it up, as they have with the Hellraiser and The Matrix references, they used to be sourced by I am not sure what happened. Tagging them accordingly now. STATicmessage me!
02:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Breaking Benjamin
I have provided links to news outlets in addition to the original postings by the band's owner and founder. These are facts and not subjective - so I do not understand the problem. — Preceding
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Secret -- Secret(talk
Will any of these links help me get my Credit on Money & the Power? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatproducer (talk • contribs) 20:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Neither are reliable in the slightest, and both look
Hello STATicVapor. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of The Headies, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 02:23, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Shirt58, I think Static has a point. I personally don't like when newly registered (or IP) editors get lazy. I really think people should try their best when it comes to creating articles. The Headies itself is notable. There are tons of references online. I don't understand why some people don't do things right.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Versace1908 (talk • contribs)
Well I am sure they "might" be notable, but when they are by a website and the article only contained a primary source, how does that indicate any significance? STATicmessage me! 06:15, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Back in September you PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been
WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Actually, though it needs references, I think she probably passes WP:NACTOR; I have added one ref to confirm one of her parts, and save it from BLP-prod. Regards, JohnCD (talk
) 11:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Artpop
Do not remove properly sourced sales from the table. It is absolutely fine to have SoundScan sales in the article although an album might not be certified. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 20:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
What is the name of the section? If there has been no certification in that country there is no reason at all to repeat its sales, when they are found more than once in the article already. STATicmessage me! 20:55, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
I know perfectly well the name of the section. It is fine to have its sales listed and has been the norm in amny articles throughout the encyclopedia. Just because you do not prefer it does not mean it should be removed. If you want to set a precedence, please raise a discussion in the talk page. You know how it works. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 20:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
You are the one that introduced it and two editors have removed it. Per
WP:NPA again and see how quick you finally get blocked for all your disruption. STATicmessage me!
21:02, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
You and a new user does not register anything for BRD to me. You have a habit of trolling through my edits so its again nothing new. 21, "Applause", True Blue are a few of the articles where sales are listed even though not certified. And I don't give a damn to your block threat. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 21:13, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
If anyone, even an IP reverts you, you consult
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. And you should give a damn ;) STATicmessage me!
21:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
You did notice that this user has been deleting content and adding unsourced content throughout his/her lifespan without any compliance to the encyclopedia? I would hardly take into account a removal by such a user,and that too without an edit summary. The perfect example of disruption in this case I believe. Coming to your reversion, I do not consider you disruptive whatever you think of mine though. I just feel you unnecessarily target my edits without trying to see why they were done in the first place.
WP:WAX is not an argument that I am making, I'm well aware of that piece of little angel. The {{Certification Table Entry}} template specifically mentions these cases with the nocert=yes parameter for "if no certification is to be displayed. This can be used to specify sales figured from other sources". Hope it is clear to you? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat
] 21:26, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
I was not even aware that you had added it, till after I had removed it and you reverted. You can imagine in your head that I target your edits all you want, but I certainly do not have any time at all for that. STATicmessage me! 21:46, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Did you read the template? Further questions please go to User:Kww. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 21:59, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
That is all fine and dandy, but are you now implying that the template's documentation allows you violate
WP:NPA? I sure do not and I am pretty sure every single editor signed up to Wikipedia would agree with me. Also notice if you would have put that in your first edit summary, instead of "????", "Use your eyes, there is no certification listed, just the sales." and my favorite "Stop the edit warring, dont stir shit for unnecessary reasons." then you would not have been reverted in the first place. You have a lot to learn still...STATicmessage me!
22:31, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Loved them didn't ya? Anyhoo, I did not break 3RR since I stopped at the last revert, have no interest in wrong BRD and as for NPA, I will only apologize for the "Please FUCK OFF" comment, none more. Bye for now, sleepy. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 22:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
"May Death Never Stop You" redirects
Hi STATicVapor. I would like to apologize for creating a bit of confusion with the redirects today. I believe the proper article title should be "May Death Never Stop You". There are two reasons: (1) no sources title the album as "May Death Never Stop You: Greatest Hits" or "May Death Never Stop You: Greatest Hits 2001–2013" and (2) even if the subtitle were to be used,
WP:SUBTITLES suggests that the subtitle not be included. – Zntrip
05:23, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Edit wars on Artpop article
Hi. My conflict is with the user IndianBio who may think he's the king of Wikipedia or something. As far as I know, if you provide a link as a source, the info you provide must be there.
He keeps adding an old figure for Artpop in the UK (94,756) with a link to a Music Week article, which is a subscription site, and thus the info cannot be found on that link, just a headline about One Direction.
He says that it doesn't matter, that you can look that info on Google... But that's NOT a valid source and that info it's not on the link provided. Thus my reverse to his editing. Because I think, as no figure can be found in any subscription-free link (apart from forums), the shipment figure should remain.
If that kind of source is valid, and we have to have faith in the info those who are subscribed can see, let me know and I will stop this battle.
And, by the way, IndianBio violated the three-revert rule by far in the last 24 hours as he has done like 7 or 8 (despite deleting the words "undid revision..." from the changes box when he does it....)Rub rb (talk) 19:26, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
MAAD*MOISELLE article
MAAD*MOISELLE in an artist which work with some artist that got article here as MadCon and ASAP Ferg, i put some reference on the article. Please don't delted the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndCx (talk • contribs) 23:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
The Yeezus Tour update.
Hi STATicVapor. A few days ago I updated The Yeezus Tour page with the box score statistics straight from Billboard (before the last update) but you undid it because "it did not appear constructive". I see, those two sources that I provided weren't informative enough. Well, Billboard box score gets updated weekly and it has no archives (if I'm not mistaken), so with the new update all of the previous stats go nowhere if you wasn't in time to catch it. However, the information is totally legit. Maybe these links will be more useful than the previous ones:
Edit: nope, I can't send you the links because they're "registered on Wikipedia's blacklist". :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by InSideofWiki (talk • contribs) 14:33, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
@
verification that the tour sold out nearly every single show, besides one that sold 68% of the tickets. STATicmessage me!
@InSideofWiki: Okay, thank you my apologizes, go ahead and add the content back just cite that source when you add it. STATicmessage me! 17:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC leaving at least 120 links to disambiguation pages behind. Sorry, I am not impressed. The Bannertalk
20:51, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
@
WP:SONGDAB, the names of artists should be included in the titles of articles about their songs and albums – at least when multiple songs/albums exist for a name. That makes the titles more clear and recognizable, and avoids future maintenance headaches over whether to consider some particular song or album as primary. STATicmessage me!
XXL magazine. I used the reflinks tool at: [6] to fill in all of the bare urls but instead you told me to use this tool: [7]. I appreciate the help but what is the difference between the two if you don't mind me asking? Just curious. From now on I'll be sure to use the reflink tool you directed me too. Thanks! Meatsgains (talk
) 21:03, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
@Meatsgains: Try using the second one, it allows you to fully fill out the reference and does not add the "Bot generated title to every reference. Trust me you will see that the second link is much better, that is why I always use the latter. STATicmessage me! 04:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Okay great, thanks! I will use the reflink tool you provided me with from now on. Seems like it produces a much more clean edit to bare urls without the unnecessary text. Thanks again and happy editing. Meatsgains (talk) 02:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
@
WP:GAN, someone does not have to try to clean them up again. STATicmessage me!
02:58, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Re:56th Grammys
Hello! I saw your message on my talk page about the 56th Grammy Awards performers for the Beatles tribute. I am familiar with citations (it is my fifth year as a Wikipedia contributor), but I was not aware that Grammy.com was not a reliable source. Since it is the official website of the Grammy Awards, I thought of it as a credible source and cited it as such. My apologies. Thank you! Jal11497 (talk) 16:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Content Dispute
Hey there. I'm having an issue with a user named
Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando. He wrote up the huge and messy "plot" section for this article and whenever somebody tries to fix it he changes it back to his terrible version without explanation. I went on the guy's talk page and he has a million warnings for disruptive editing and vandalization. Since you are one of the people who left one of those warnings, I assume you can do something about this. Please block this guy or something. Asterix 13 (talk
) 17:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
@Asterix 13: I reverted it back, let me know if he continues to revert rather than discuss. STATicmessage me! 17:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: It looks like he has changed it without explanation again, this time to an exact copy and paste from the game's Wikia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asterix 13 (talk • contribs)
As I'm sure you've noticed, that 24-hour block didn't change anything. However, @
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) 01:53, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Yeah I really did not think it would at all, most unsurprising return to disruption I've ever seen. Looks like a definite nother block for Monterrosa, but on length we will have to see what the administrator decides. Hopefully much longer this time. STATicmessage me! 02:10, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
I have to say, I was quite surprised when the admin of the previous case decided to 24-hour block me as well :/. Not sure what the longest block Monterrosa has received is, but I would personally block for minimally a month. I'm not gonna comment on the case this time to avoid risking that again. I can't tell whether or not this is a troll or something.
talk
) 02:20, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh really? I am sorry to hear that, you didn't deserve to be. But hey, I was blocked for reverting a vandal too in a lapse of judgement, it happens to the best of us. In the future, just never step over
WP:3RR, no matter how right you are, or wrong they are, because when it comes to a content dispute that is not clear cut vandalism, both will be blocked. I would hope that he/she gets at least a month, I would hate for it to be 72-hours, only for them to return again. They might be a sockpuppet of a banned user or something, they certainly have the disruptive actions of one. STATicmessage me!
02:27, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, apparently I had edit warred in the past without realizing it. @
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) 02:50, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Yep just saw that, hopefully they won't return right back to it in a week. And stay on your toes on the pages the user seems to be interested in. STATicmessage me! 02:58, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
If Monterrosa continues directly upon release of their block, feel free to report them directly to me and they will be met with an indefinite block. Tiptoetytalk 03:46, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for that picture/link I had been wondering who the producers/writers for the previously unreleased bonus tracks were. I will go ahead and add your credit right now. STATicmessage me! 06:53, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Linkin Park
Look the reason why I changed Linkin Park's genre was because their albums Living Things and Recharged are both electronic rock. That is their newest genre so please dont threaten me -- TreCoolGuy 07:54
As I said, you are adding unsourced
genre warring. If you continue do not be surprised if you are blocked. STATicmessage me!
01:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
That cool guy
Users have the right to blank or edit their talk page as they see fit. No need to revert. -- John Reaves 04:50, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I was under the impression that they cannot blank current block notices, which makes sense. But I could be wrong. STATicmessage me! 04:54, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Tee Flii
Done. The text is almost entirely unencyclopaedic and spammy, but it will save you doing the infobox and tables. The only change I've made is to replace the deprecated <references> with {{reflist}}
I think John Reeves is right. If a blocked user edits their talk page unacceptably (abuse, spamming), the right to edit that page can be withdrawn. I don't think that removing a block notice is GF editing, but it's not forbidden Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:02, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
@
WP:BLANKING, but the user almost reverted me immediately so no harm no foul. Its funny, its always the ones that cause the most disruption that blank their talk pages after they get blocked. STATicmessage me!
10:09, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
File:Childish-gambino-because-the-internet.gif listed for deletion
Even before your message was sent, I had already posted a message on Development of Star Wars Episode VII's discussion page to discuss the reasons behind some disagreements.
As you can also note, I've provided explanations along with all my edits concerning this issue, while users such as Lemaroto keep deleting relevant information without providing any justified reasons. I believe this should be taken into account.
If they keep deleting relevant information that keeps Episode VII's article on par with other Star Wars Episodes' articles without providing any explanations, I believe further protection would be required.
Thank you very much. Best Regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Decosw1988 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I have no opinion on the situation. Obviously the users should be giving a reason for reverting you, it is just disruptive that they are not. However, under very slim circumstances are you allowed to revert more than three times in 24-hours per
WP:3rr and you are currently at three. Especially since multiple editors have removed it, you do not just keep introducing it, so I would suggest you just wait for someone to discuss on the talk page or message them directly. STATicmessage me!
I changed years active from 1990 to present, to 1988 to present because it is absolutely true there are many songs that he recorded in 1988 but we're not released on any ep,l.p.,or mixtape they are just simply songs, one of which is oh foolish pride, any way I sincerely hope you consider those changes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imnumberw0n (talk • contribs) 00:15, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Please consider my changes as I do not know how to add a source to it please consider the following. Years active 1988-present instead of 1990- present as it is absolutely true — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imnumberw0n (talk • contribs) 01:15, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
See
WP:IRS. Content will not be changed without reliable sources. STATicmessage me!
It still needs to be discussed at Talk: Eminem, there are various threads about it there. Prior consensus was to list 1990, and just because he recorded it at that time, he still did not officially release music. STATicmessage me! 01:27, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello...
User, the other user violated that rule a while, please. The other user is the one making changes, he should discuss. and you should better check the history please. Thanks. --
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) 00:39, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Certification Dispute
Okay if we can't add certifications to things that are certified but not yet in the database then it's only fair that you take down certifications for Nothing Was the Same and it's "double platinum" singles that are not certified on RIAA yet. Or else this website is biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.69.134.162 (talk) 00:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
We have sources that verify the sales for those though. There is nothing to verify that "Show Me" has sold over 500,000 copies expect an artist involved in the song's tweet. That is not a reliable source for sales figures or certifications. STATicmessage me! 00:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
WP:PW
I'm glad you actually let me know that; I can pull that out of the G4 article myself because I always was uneasy with that item. Thank you for the good faith revert and note about why.
chatter
) 02:23, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
No problem at all, thanks for the positive attitude, they are few and far to come by sometimes. But yeah, with BleacherReport you never know if its true or just rumors.STATicmessage me! 02:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I recently discovered that the filmography for Nick Kroll listed Get Him to the Greek twice. I removed it but realized just as I submitted that I had forgotten to provide a reason for my edit. You say you changed it but it still seems like the repeated title has been removed. Did someone else do this or is my edit still in place for some reason? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.159.135 (talk) 08:14, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
In this edit you removed Dinner for Schmucks, not Get Him to the Greek. STATicmessage me! 17:27, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
"No"
I do not think that "No" is a good edit summary.
It gives me and other editors no information about why you have reverted the edit, except that you didn't like it.
Please try to leave better edit summaries in the future.
Hi Static, there are two people fighting over the page Mobonix right now, they each claim the title. Do you think either of them are notable? If not it might be easiest to just delete this. Let me know what you think, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:04, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
@
WP:COI, and definitely is a SPA. The fact that Markwinters1 practically hijacked the article, it might be better to revert it back to the previous version, because as far as I can see, the article has been about this supposed copyright infringer since its creation, and was now recently taken over and the subject changed by Markwinters1. This obviously destroys the page history. If it is deleted, Markwinters1 can then try to recreate the article since at least his preferred version has some notability through his work with MF Doom and being signed to his label. However, probably would still fail WP:MUSICBIO regardless. Well that is my thoughts, as the administrator, what do you think is better in this situation? STATicmessage me!
00:26, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the analysis. Right now the article is full protected, but I've nominated it for deletion. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:43, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi Static, there are some updates to the
Beyonce's B'day album). Thank you for your time. Illxchild (talk
) 00:13, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello
go here and comment please. Additinally, i comment to you that the Billboard 50 located popularity artist worldwide in this moment, very relevant, but thats not is the problem, because you ask for a third source, so a third reference is incorporated, there is no reason to continue deleting. Other articles of artists have that data. regards and sorry for my english.
I comment [8]. PS: you are the only one who does this. It has to do you like hip hop?.
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) 16:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Clean up tags I added to two articles I feel are not notable
Hi Static, How do I report three editors all at the same time? I added cleanup tags to the
M Trill articles specifically stating that the BlogSpot and Wordpress references be remove. Al Gomez, Kalabarian, and Alice Shedrack all contribute to the aforementioned articles. Instead of removing the references, Alice Shedrack reverted my edit. I reverted her edit and left a note on her talk page. The next day, which was yesterday, Kalabrian hid the clean up tag without removing the references from the article. I reverted his edit and left a message on his talk page. These editors do not understand the importance of using proper citation. From their point of view, it's okay to remove cleanup tags from the articles without addressing the problem while simultaneously telling me that I am violating the three revert rule. I don't know who they think they are. Editors do not have the right to remove templates that have been added without addressing the issue. I got block for doing that once and I think they need to get block for removing legitimate templates from articles without properly addressing the issue. versace1608 (talk
Thanks for helping me out. They are definitely sockpuppets. The artists/musicians they are writing about do not get any type of media coverage in Nigeria. They are pretty much non-existent; they are not even up-and coming artists. I personally think these articles should be deleted from the encyclopedia. versace1608 (talk) 22:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
WP:AIV report, how hilarious and inexperienced of them. I guess all of a sudden I am a vandalism-only account :(. Funny part is it was this edit, I was reported for. I liked you decline message too, "is that meant to be a joke?", good stuff. STATicmessage me!
17:58, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Devil's Due
I'm fixing blatant errors that are misquoted and/or not in the references. No harm intended. Right now there are tons of misquotes and I don't understand why that should be kept on the page. Thank you for your understanding, it's much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HESINTHEPICTURE (talk • contribs) 19:10, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I undid your edit because you undid mine. As you can see from the comments, the way the songs on the album appear, appear as MANiCURE, and ARTPOP (the capitalization is in there and there for a reason). If your a Gaga fan, you would know why they are there and you would leave them that way.
Thanks so much.
Xhrisfitz (talk) 09:39, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Xhrisfitz (Tuesday January 21, 3:40 AM Central Time)
Genre discussion
Ello'. Could you take a look at this post I made about music genres? I would appreciate your input. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:40, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Gossip cop is not a unreliable source. People magazine also has him being engaged in Montana .iThey even went to Montana this year doing new years.Vonnie0801 (talk) 14:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC) dec 22,2014
Then cite People magazine, Gossip cop is definitely not a reliable source, see
WP:IRS, to learn how to figure out what is a reliable source. STATicmessage me!
17:51, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for responding and I will use people as a source when I edit the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vonnie0801 (talk • contribs) 02:43, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
People is most definitely NOT a reliable source either, though.
Saw that you reverted the vandalism of entries, well, it's back. 62.255.206.104 (talk) 19:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Danny Boy Styles is NOT Danny!
@STATicVapor Danny Boy Styles is not Danny!, as this confirms that it is not Danny Swain, but Danny Schofield, confirmed by AllMusic, please revert it back, thank you Npabebangin (talk) 02:08, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
I did not know it was leading to Danny!'s page, sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought I had fixed that a long time ago. STATicmessage me! 02:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello STATic,
I noticed you recently merged the article I'm on Fire (mixtape) and added a redirect to the main article, please may I know exactly why you did that because I checked the edit summary but couldn't understand the reason well. Thank you. ——Wrongevidence09 (talk) 17:23, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Exclusive stream of Ty's EP
Hey, It may not have been Jay-zesque or anything like that, but this was cool streaming it on Hotnewhiphop, not many artists let go of free streams like that - maybe on spotify sometimes, I'm new so do not quite know how to edit that kinda thing in yet, or if it really would be considered as being interested, figured you'd know what to do with it.Squigee22 (talk) 18:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
@Squigee22: Actually it is not really that ground braking, recently artists have been doing it a lot, even The Gifted, The Marshall Mathers LP 2 and Because the Internet were streaming on iTunes almost a week before their releases. I would have added it, but I did not see a place where the info would fit into the article, since there are only sections on background and the singles (not including reception), since outside the singles there was really no extra promotion put into the EP. More than decent EP, even though I thought there was too many features. Thanks for the suggestion though, I actually wrote the article and the one for "Paranoid". STATicmessage me! 18:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Rick Ross discography
If you have additional sources, feel free to provide them. Otherwise simply reverting the entire page to a version which leaves peaks unverifiable is nothing but disruptive editing. It doesn't matter whether peaks can be found in some sources, the question is whether or not the existing sources do support them, and the answer is no, they do not. Therefore, you'll need to provide the sources where you see your peaks.--Harout72 (talk) 01:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
In what way do they not support them? You have yet to elaborate on this garbage you keep spewing out. Billboard chart histories are not always updated immediately or not always complete. Any peaks you are dubious of can be verified though this database, thank you. STATicmessage me! 01:49, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
garbage you keep spewing out? And you tell others at the top of your editable page to remain civil? Over 50,000 edits made, and you're still not familiar with Wikipedia:Verifiability. You need to provide additional sources for the peaks you add which aren't supported by the existing sources. You don't tell editors visit this or that site if you want to verify it. I'll leave your added No.48 on there for now, but it would be best if you provided the source where you've seen it, right in the box of the peak, at least until it becomes available in the main source.--Harout72 (talk) 02:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
You really need to start
assuming good faith. I am very familiar with it, so keep running your mouth all you want, you are always the first one that breaks civility. Billboard.biz is actually a much better source to verify peaks and positions since it is updated the second the charts are and it gives you the labels/dates etc. STATicmessage me!
02:25, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Can you point out how did I exactly break civility? I'm assuming good faith as much as humanly possible. Did you even consider taking a look at the kind of time had been put into all this before you reverted it? Now question for you, how do you exactly verify the R&B peak for "The Devil Is a Lie" through billboard.com/biz? What exactly do you select for each box?--Harout72 (talk) 02:54, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
You cannot use the searched url on here since it contains brackets, which messes up the wiki-markup. Just make sure "Rick Ross" is in the artist field and press enter. It will be the first result. STATicmessage me! 03:16, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
I noticed you removed "philanthropist" from the occupation field and called it "undue" and that he isn't known for being one. How exactly is it undue if there's a subsection in his article specifically dedicated to his philanthropy? Simply curious
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) 02:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
First see
WP:UNDUE if you never have and it is a sort of small subsection after all. Look at it this way, when choosing what to list in the infobox and lead where the occupations are, think, if someone does not know who the subject is, and asks you "What is Justin Timberlake most known as?" or what is he famous for. Would philanthropist be any of the first things that come to your mind? I mean now a days nearly all celebrities donate to various charities or raise money for charity just due to their popularity, but his work has not been of the significance as some of those on this list. I am sorry I did not elaborate that much in my edit summary, if only we had more space. Also thank you very much for restoring the material that was changed to be sourced to Gossip cop. However, in the future when doing large edits like that when you change various things in the article, either comment on all of them, or do them one at a time so we all know exactly what changes were made, and why. STATicmessage me!
02:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
I'll keep that in mind, thank you. It very much would be helpful to have more space in edit summary.
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) 03:32, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
What are you doing?
Hey man what are you doing? Ryback is in the Royal Rumble man so don't just delete my edit. I went on a website and they said Ryback is in so what are you doing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayday Miller911 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
cited for all additions. Not to mentioned Lords of Pain is not a reliable sources. STATicmessage me!
05:46, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
SD of GBE
Hey STATic! I need your help on the article that I created for SD of Glory Boyz Entertainment. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malcolmrevere (talk • contribs) 06:44, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Need your advice on problematic editor
Hi STATic, I have a matter I would like to consult you with. In December 2013, I noticed that many of the wrestlers' articles started to appear in this Category:CS1 errors: dates. This is because when someone added a reference, they forgot to fill in the date properly, for example forgetting to insert what year. I went around to many articles to fix this silly CS1 error (I think at least 30 already, if not 50). I managed to trace several of these errors to the editor Valentfred. I posted on his talk page to notify him to stop making this error, but he keeps making the error. I've found errors twice more and posted to his talk page again, even giving him a video to watch on how to cite. But even now he is still making this error. So what should I do? This is an editor who has never replied to me (or apparently to anyone) on his talk page. starship.paint (talk | contribs) 12:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
@
WP:ANI, since I do not see any real way to warn or block them for this, as it is more of a technically disruptive thing. I have, along with the rest of WP:PW have always had a problem with this user with their signature move warring. I remember he sent me a message on my talk page one time complaining about me reverting his edit and after that not a word. The fact that he wont respond to you, when you are nicly asking him to fix this problem, yet continues to do it does not look good at all, and it won't look good at ANI either. STATicmessage me!
How am i breaking the 3 revert rule if i'm not the one adding the content? I am insulted that you would even give me a warning for this since we both agree on this subject. I get you are trying to be an admin or something but try to use tags more appropriately in the future. Koala15 (talk) 19:49, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
@Koala15: Sorry I cannot play favorites. You both reverted three times within 24-hours, so you both got the warning. See revert 1, revert 2, revert 3, technically if you had reverted 20 minutes before you would have had four within 24-hours. STATicmessage me! 20:02, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Play favorites? You Wikipedia types love taking things of context huh? My point was if i'm not the one adding the content how do i deserve a warning? It's like if someone was vandalizing a page and i revert them 3 times do i get a warning for that two? Koala15 (talk) 20:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Chill dude, I am saying I appreciate your work on here but edit warring is not okay. Where at
obvious vandalism can be reverted, but the dispute here is not obvious vandalism, it is a content dispute. STATicmessage me!
20:10, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I don't see the point of snitching on anyone especially when they have good intentions. And according to your block log you were blocked for breaking the 3 revert rule before so i wouldn't act like you are the perfect editor. Koala15 (talk) 20:16, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Nobody was snitched on. Yes, about everyone on here has been blocked at least once, even some admins, and I know you have too. When have I ever said I was the perfect editor though? Or is that just you putting words in my mouth. I can tell you are in middle school or something though so its okay, but please when I always treat you with respect and sometimes back you in disputes, you should treat me with more respect. STATicmessage me! 20:23, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I always try to treat everyone on here with respect, i just don't appreciate when i get get warnings and i feel they are not deserved. And no i'm not in middle school. Koala15 (talk) 20:28, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I would have just warned the other user as I said, if not for your last revert. I have to be fair obviously. Once you reached 3 reverts the warning is deserved, you are held to no higher standard then I am or anyone else. STATicmessage me! 20:34, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Hip hop
You reverted my Hip Hop origin edits stating that Youtube is not a proper source. Youtube is not my source. My source is Busy Bee Starsky and Afrika Bambaaataa. The quotes regarding the origins of Hip Hop are directly out of their mouths. Both individuals are very well known as founding fathers of Hip Hop and Hip hop culture. Their words are very credible in the Hip Hop community, especially Afrika Bambaaataa. They are my sources, not YouTube. I am not quoting YouTube, I am quoting them. It does a disservice to all to dismiss their words simply because the video of their quotes is hosted on YouTube. §BH1967 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bh1967 (talk • contribs) 03:55, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
@
reliable source, in the future try doing that instead of citing YouTube videos. STATicmessage me!
04:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
You say it is not very hard to find the interviews with Busy Bee Starski and Afrika Bambaataa published on a "relyable source, then please help find it, because I haven't been able to. What I did find is a video that is clearly them saying where the term Hip Hop originated. Their quotes provide more clarity to a subject that is not very clear. And after watching them say it, there can be no disputing they said it. This is especially important in the case of Afrika Bambaataa, because many sources state that it originated with Afrika Bambaataa, so to actually hear and see him say on video that the term started with Keith Cowboy and then Love Bug Starsky (and not himself) is incredibly important. He is the source. Not Youtube. Your decision to delete the referenced video as a source that happens to be hosted on YouTube does not help to make the matter clearer, rather you are reverting back to making the matter more confusing for those who want to know the truth.
As for your reason for deleting my edit "See
WP:YOUTUBE states "there is no blanket ban on linking to YouTube as long as it abides by the guidelines" It does. There is no copyright problem, it's not a blacklisted site, there are no other problems so what exactly is your specific reason for deleting? I am not claiming to be a Wikipedia expert, so perhaps you could make me understand why it is unacceptable to you for me to link to a YouTube video of Busy Bee Starsky and Afrika Bambaaataa themselves clearing up this very important fact. Again, they are my sources, not YouTube. Bh1967 (talk
) 05:49, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Seriously?
You are strongly out to lunch on this. You may have 10s of thousands of edits, but you're not an admin. You were wrong before about Monterrosa, you're wrong again. It's the same guy. Same articles, same reverts. He switches IPs. Get a clue, please. And stop edit warring. All you're doing with reverting his edits back in is giving him the kind of attention users like him want. And all that attention does is encourage him to continue doing this. DENY was instated for a reason. His edits should not stand per
WP:DENY. If you're not familiar with the policy, please read up on it. -- Winkelvi ● ✉✓
WP:ITALIC? I am giving him zero attention at all, the only one getting all worked up and concerned about this is you. This IP has been editing for years, it is not just a random mobile IP like the others. You need to actully read the response rather then coming back with a non-sense one liner. I have dealt with many sockpuppets for the last four years. STATicmessage me!
05:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Will you feel the same after he's blocked again for the same thing as always? -- Winkelvi ● ✉✓ 05:23, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Even if the address is blocked, it makes zero difference, if it is them they will pop up again. I improved two articles and one template with the three reverts of you I made. Also like to point out I reported KaBlez: 537 to
assume good faith and be so hostile when you are reverted if the encyclopedia is being improved. STATicmessage me!
05:28, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
"Speculation"? See this: [9] No, not "speculation" at all. -- Winkelvi ● ✉✓ 05:49, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Please don't do this
Warning others you are in a dispute with is also ill-advised. Please don't do it. Please reflect on the comments made on your ANEW report and modify your behaviour. --John (talk) 01:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
I get it, you are defending your friend. Please act neutral in your involvement with other editors. Where is that ill-advised? The warnings were all valid. They were disruptive and they were edit warring. STATicmessage me! 01:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Warning others you are in a dispute with is also ill-advised. Please don't do it. Please reflect on the comments made on your ANEW report and modify your behaviour. --John (talk) 01:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
I get it, you are defending your friend. Please act neutral in your involvement with other editors. Where is that ill-advised? The warnings were all valid. They were disruptive and they were edit warring. STATicmessage me! 01:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
My friend? I'm not sure what you mean by that. Could you clarify who you think is my friend? I won't bother you again as I can see you are uncomfortable being challenged on your behaviour. It's up to you if you take notice or not of my warnings. Be aware though that the next time you hear from me will be a block if I see you misbehaving. Let's hope that isn't necessary, eh? Adios, --John (talk) 17:39, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
@John: I already mentioned at the ANEW that my behavior was inappropriate, but its funny, where are you blowing up his talk page for his inappropriate behavior? Again, as I said in my edit summary, do not threaten me, because I will not be blocked, because I do nothing but improve the encyclopedia, but of course I make one lapse in judgement and you are going to jump to irrational threats. But thanks for making this such a positive place to be, admins should really have a better positive attitude to the users who do nothing but fight vandalism, create new articles, handle sockpuppets and improve articles. I really expected better of you. That is the main reason I am questioning whether to remain here much longer. STATicmessage me! 18:36, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
My Editing
Dear STATICVapor,
I apologize for my unsourced editing. For the Long.Live.A$AP article, I went on Metacritic.com to see the rating of the album, and it clearly said 76. So I came back and decided to change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.204.76.79 (talk) 20:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Sockpuppet Issue
Hey I just got a message from User:Winkelvi saying that i'm in some sort of Sock puppetry issue, just because I reverted the awards of Matt Groening and I noticed that you and him were having a conversation yesterday and i'm scared that my account will be blocked forever. And you were actually winning by not judging any IP's so please tell me what to do i loved being on wikipedia so far and i don't want to be blocked forever. Thanks. User:Knight light 3000—Preceding undated comment added 03:51, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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this article, look especially at the section "Common questions" and subsection #5. Your block isn't going to go away that easy and every time you sock and edit disruptively every time you sock, you make your situation just that much worse. -- Winkelvi ● ✉✓
Linkin Park are schedule to be on world-wide tour by the end of next year (2015), they said that the next studio album will be alittle similar to their first two record, Hybrid Theory and Meteora, they said that they gonna pick up from where they left off in 2006 or 2007 during the recording session of their third studio album. Minutes To Midnight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.1 Jibbz (talk • contribs) 22:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
That sounds awesome, would be really glad for them going back to their roots, hopefully it is true. Also sorry for the revert, but please start
It seem like they are returning to their roots because, usually they don't have more than 5 securities at the doors at NRG Reoordings Studio, only like 2 or 3, they don't more any information out about the next studio album, they want it to a surprise but it clear that the big surprise is that the next one be nice and not anything like Pop Rock more like Nu Metal (Hip Hop & Metal/Rock). Mike Shinoda from the band said that the first two record were like brother albums since they have the same beats and energy, before they started production on their fifth album, Living Things, they realized that they were in unfamiliar terrority and they decided to get back into rock. Plus now they remember why they were signed, to make a Nu Metal album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.1 Jibbz (talk • contribs) 17:21, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Linkin Park: Concert For The Philippines
I've posted this info of the band under charity thing, the show will shown or well broadcast on the 15th next month even though the performnace was on the 11th this month. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.1 Jibbz (talk • contribs) 17:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Covert Coup Instrumental
It IS an instrumental album. It's like the 1st Infantry Instrumentals or Dr. Dre's 2001 Instrumentals... An instrumental version of an album is an instrumental release. I think that you coming and reverting my additions all the time and stating reasons is not cool. I was the BIGGEST contributor to Alchemist's page. I changed it all the way around from a poor page to a very rich one... stop changing my work all the time please! I will add back the Covert Coup Instrumentals because it exists and it is an Instrumental release by the Alchemist.--Orr971 (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
WP:OWN, you do not own and control any article on Wikipedia no matter how much you edited it. STATicmessage me!
21:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Infobox single chronology
Per
Template:Infobox single#Chronology, it is suppose to list the official release dates of the singles, not simply navigational links. That's what the artist templates are for. Erick (talk
) 07:03, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Sports Statistics
I'm very active in ice hockey articles here. Recently I've been noticing a growing number of occurrences where users are editing the pages of players or coaches and updating their "career statistics" tables periodically throughout the season. I was under the impression that wikipedia is not intended to be used for up-to-the-minute sport statistics and activity like this should be refrained from until the end of the current season as it makes a mess of the edits databases. Can you verify this for me? Asterix 13 (talk) 16:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I honestly have no idea, I am a sports fan, however I never edit in that section of Wikipedia. STATicmessage me! 21:32, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Need Your Help Again
I need you to help me finish this article based on Troy Ave's debut album New York City: The Album.
Why did you revert my edits on Ty Dolla Sign and Beach House EP? A remix of a song does NOT count as a separate single. Rappers commonly release remixes for the sake of promoting the original song. (In some cases, the remixes chart higher.) It was just released for promotion. It is NOT a single. Please message me back with your thoughts. Easy4me (talk) 23:17, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
@
Amazon.com, which is pretty clear by the citation cited in the article. Even if your edit did make sense, you again removed content on multiple articles without leaving a single word in the edit summary. STATicmessage me!
23:22, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: So, if I leave something in the edit summary, my edit would be fine? By the way, I told you that rappers commonly release remixes of their songs for individual sale. That doesn't make it a single by any means. This sounds like you made up rules. Easy4me (talk) 23:26, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
@
WP:OR. Yes, rappers release remixes of their songs for sale, and they become singles. See the article for a single. Retail sale as a single = it is a single. Not sure what your other made up criteria for being a single is. STATicmessage me!
23:34, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Trap Lord
I must apologize for unsourced material that I added on several articles, including Trap Lord. I promise it won't happen again. DBrown SPS 23:42, 29 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBrown SPS (talk • contribs)
It is all good and I would hope so. STATicmessage me! 23:46, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
did you not listen last time?
As you were told last time, removing inappropriate BLP content is not considered "edit warring". — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRedPenOfDoom (talk • contribs)
Please learn to sign your posts, unless this is your first day here. The content is not in the article so it is not a BLP violation, they want to discuss it, so discuss it. The post does not violate
"Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page.
(emph in the original)
And YES sourcing claims of alleged criminal behavior to blog posts like scribID is MOST CERTAINLY a BLP violation.
And you're accusations of Bad Faith are in themselves massively bad faith. I have assumed nothing. Someone posted inappropriate content with no discussion about how they wanted to improve the article on the page that is dedicated solely to discussion about how to improve the article. It is NOT assumption of bad faith on my part to state that I cannot read their minds. It is not an assumption of bad faith on my part to assume you cannot read their minds. If they or you want to discuss how to improve the article, they/you will actually need to discuss how to improve the article and not slather the talk page with inappropriate links. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:43, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I will take part of that statement back. The one thing I had assumed is that [10] you did not need to be blocked for disruption because you had learned that BLP is important policy and would not continue edit warring in contravention of it. In that I did make an assumption (albeit of good faith). And that assumption was proven wrong. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
CM Punk is no longer in the WWE.
Hi. I see that you reverted my edit on CM Punk's wiki article. There were sources at the bottom paragraph of that article section that states he's no longer with the company anymore. My edits were only used for good intentions and I don't see what's the reasoning for you to revert them. Glencoco8995 (talk) 05:47, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
It is speculation, there is no official word that he has left the company. He is contracted to the company, he cannot just walk away and no long be on the roster without a proper release. Please do not add rumors or speculation to the article. STATicmessage me! 05:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Yeezus Tour Page Change
I added a song on the setlist for the Yeezus Tour because I was at his show in Chicago and he did sing Homecoming. It was the only show he sang it at so I would like to have that added to it because it is what happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhovorks16 (talk • contribs) 05:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WT2f6Mh-FY this is a link to him singing it live at the united center during his tour. for him to have a Chicago background mentioning that he sang a song he wrote about the city is important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhovorks16 (talk • contribs) 06:08, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Lordsofpain verification
Hi STATicVapor, How lordsofpain.net is not reliable? Explain. Noteswork (talk) 06:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Damn, that was simply amazing ! Noteswork (talk) 07:20, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Mr.
Why would you delete a page that has solid cite material and is the other half to an act who has been on wiki (Mr. Pookie)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CandaceCollinsConnect (talk • contribs) 20:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I did not delete it, just tagged it for deletion since the subject fails
The page is deleted because you tagged it please revert. The information is cretible and verifiable. IF YOU feel something is irrelevant then I will make changes accordingly ≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by CandaceCollinsConnect (talk • contribs) 21:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
WP:RS, but rather the source (Conspiracy Worldwide Radio) that they were using. It's a strange case. Best, Joefromrandb (talk
) 04:52, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
@Joefromrandb: Discussion on BLPN is completely unnecessary, if you would have bothered to discuss it with me first like it is suggested, you would realize that I have no intention on pushing this issue further. The PO Box thing is what I was concerned on keeping, since the source does say that an active PO Box in his name was still open in his last known living location. Regardless, I had no intention to revert further on the page. STATicmessage me! 06:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
I didn't think that at all. I've seen you around; you do good work, especially on hip-hop articles, which are hotbeds for all kinds of nonsense. I posted there hoping for opinions on the bigger issues: whether his article should consider him to be living or dead, and whether
11-year-old administrator call for my head. It wasn't meant as anything personal. You're a good guy. Happy editing! Joefromrandb (talk
) 06:37, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
@Joefromrandb: Thanks for the praise my friend, really not enough full-time editors in the subject, especially for such a big vandalism target as any popular music can be. Oh okay, I was also wondering why his article did not have a death date, but the fact there are many many inconsistences in the whole situation, it did need a thread. If you go back in the page history there were ALOT of IP edits following his death, and then even more when the whole death faking allegations started. Make sure to mention that Vice article since it basically summarizes all the events, such as The Source only using two random people to origionally report the news, then deleting the article, and that a death certificate has never been turned up. Happy editing to you also! STATicmessage me! 06:47, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
why u changing it
why you changing it have you not seen the sources they are real and stone cold confirmed it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrestlingfan129 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Stone Cold did not confirm anything, from what I heard he confirmed the opposite. Wikipedia is not a
crystal ball so we will not be making ANY official changes regarding CM Punk's status until WWE or Punk make an official statement. The sources you cited were just speculating and have you ever heard of a "work"? STATicmessage me!
23:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
RE: Elimination Chamber PPV
Why you revert the things I've updated to the Elimination Chamber PPV. It's not a speculation, because I watched the show and everything is the way I write it. I'm helping, but you're reverting it. WHY WHY WHY - Batbobi - User:Batbobi— Preceding unsigned comment added by Batbobi (talk • contribs)
You must
reliable sources for content additions, thank you and relax. STATicmessage me!
00:01, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello.
This is kind of random, but I just want to apologize, because I was a complete jerk to you the other month.
I was just going through my talk page tonight and looked back on some of the things I said to you and to other editors and started thinking, and I just felt really stupid afterwards. I never meant to be disrespectful, I was stressed and just got a little hot-headed, which is really no excuse and I feel ashamed about it. I'm sorry for how I treated you. --Eddster (talk) 03:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
@Eddster: No worries, I appreciate the apologies though, I can understand we all get a little stressed out when someone reverts you. STATicmessage me! 05:40, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Static, noticed that the genre in the infobox or sentence contains genre says "party rap" which source says "party rap breakdown". I've been refused "party rap" is a type of rap or a genre. Can you figure it out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.171.179.251 (talk) 10:36, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
WikiCup 2014 January newsletter
The 2014 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with, at time of writing, 138 participants. The is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2010. If you are yet to join the competition, don't worry- the judges have agreed to keep the signups open for a few more days. By a wide margin, our current leader is newcomer Godot13 (submissions), whose set of 14 featured pictures, the first FPs of the competition, was worth 490 points. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:
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Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email), The ed17 (talk • email) and Miyagawa (talk • email
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Queens of the Stone Age genre problem
Hi, I was watching interviews with Joshua Homme and Its come up so many times already, He clearly states he doesn't want the specific 'Stoner Rock' genre label, wouldn't you agree that the artist has more say than the fans? In this specific video >"Sound Opinions with Joshua Homme". I honestly don't care if this change is made, I'm just providing evidence as to why I made the edit.
There was a discussion on the article talk page with consensous to include it, you may leave comments there. Just know that our genre field is just not a replication of what the band wants to be known as. STATicmessage me! 08:18, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, you recently requested speedy deletion for an article that I created because it was similar to another article. I apologize because I had no knowledge of the other article. Is there any way you could help me create the article? Dare2beyou(talk) 23:51, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
@
WP:MUSICBIO. Also you please remove the various HTML tags from your signature as it messes up the format of everything after your signature. STATicmessage me!
00:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
A fire broke out in several articles on Wikipedia today. It was confirmed to be arson - set by a group of vandals looking for trouble. Luckily, STATicVapor came to the rescue. Armed with
Twinkle, he began to extinguish the flames and restored the articles to their un-charred state. The valuable information he sent to the administrators enabled them to arrest the appropriate vandals and keep them from causing more harm. I, k6ka, am proud to present you, STATicVapor, this honourable barnstar to adorn on your wall for bravery, courage, and dedication to keeping the encyclopedia safe for everyone! K6ka (talk | contribs
) 02:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
@K6ka: Thanks a lot for the barnstar! I really appreciate it and for your kindness you have earned a place on my userpage for the near future. STATicmessage me! 03:40, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Static, I see you've been active in EMINEM related article so I came here to ask you whether you'd help me make this article a . I am not familiar with
reliable sources in this particular topic and have no familiarity at all, so could you please help? Instead of just jumping right in I wanted to learn the hopes to make the work a bit easier. Thanks. Soham
05:42, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
@
WP:ALBUMS/SOURCES, that is a good listing of reliable sources related to music. STATicmessage me!
01:29, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, if I need any help I'll knock on your door. Soham 07:06, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
It does make more sense in the history section, thank you for putting it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hrmhrm (talk • contribs) 20:10, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank You
Just wishing you much thanks. Thank you for making the hip hop section of Wikipedia the way it is today. TwinTurbo (talk) 23:02, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Heyy! I took into consideration that you deleted the influence section on article Motionless In White. I took my time out to search for their influences and the respected reference to back it up. Please don't delete this. If there's an error, please notify me. Thank you.
Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi?
Hey dude, I am sorry for what I done but if you click on the link from the Slippery When Wet album, it brings you to Allmusic and then it says all the genres and then it says that the album is Glam Metal, Heavy Metal and Hard Rock. Am not sure if that is a good link but Slippery When Wet is more than just Hard rock. I am very sorry for what I really done. If you want me to add Glam metal and Hard rock I can do that because the link explains that the album is Glam metal and hard rock and heavy metal. I am sorry for what I done.
Sorry, but if I could add Glam metal and Hard rock I would, only if you want me to do it. The link says it's Glam metal and heavy metal and hard rock so I was kind of confused there. Sorry.
Re: Restoring Force revision "Not a professional review site."
You reverted an edit I made under the Professional ratings/reviews scores section of Of Mice & Men's Restoring Force, citing that the score is "Not a professional review site." By what measure are you measuring the professionalism of a site? TheIronCouncil (talk) 14:49, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: The link you cited reads: "This list is also merely a collection of suggestions, and other good sources may exist....Specifically, reviews should be written by professional music journalists or DJs, or found within any online or print publication having a (paid or volunteer) editorial and writing staff (which excludes personal blogs), and must be from a source that is independent of the artist, record company, etc" and The Monolith unequivocally falls under that category. On any given page it lists the members of editorial and writing staff. TheIronCouncil (talk) 18:23, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
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WT:ALBUMS and propose it to be added to the page then. I do not see much indication that they are a professional review site, or that Tommy Wills is a known music critic that has worked for any major magazine or review website in the past. Also if they were used by Metacritic or AnyDecentMusic? that would work in their favor, but I do not see any indication of that. STATicmessage me!
19:05, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: According to the guidelines (which you cited) both of those points are irrelevant, and your definitions of "known" and "professional" seem subjective. There is only one other review on there currently. Is removing it really necessary? It provides readers with an opinion from a published and established source.TheIronCouncil (talk) 21:46, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
No they are not, you are completely missing every point I am making, as you are just focused on your goal. There is zero proof that the site or the writer are professionals, and that is why it will be not included. My definitions are not subjective, they are facts, I am sorry we cannot include every little blog writers review in the article. Again with the false statements though, there are five reviews, not one. The source is a self-published non-established blog. STATicmessage me! 21:52, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: Yes, there is a goal. But AGAIN, the guidelines do not say that either the site of the reviewer have to be "professional", whatever the definition (even though the site is over a year old, has an extensive staff, has hundreds of articles, and clearly receives promotional material from labels, PR companies etc, who consider it professional). That is my point, which you are missing. Seems you are over-simplifying the parameters. Won't argue any more, as it's not that important, but maybe try and be a bit less anal about this sort of thing.TheIronCouncil (talk) 23:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes it definitely does say that. A whole year? Dang guess they are the next Rolling Stone. So what if they receive PR and promotional content? So does every sort of known blog. STATicmessage me! 01:12, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
RE: Black Lip Pastor
Got it :)… Well, given that Cilvia Demo has sold more copies than other TDE releases besides Good Kid in their first week – possibly due to TDE's growing popularity – it didn't surprise me that it peaked higher. ???uest(talk • contribs) 15:31, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Possible sock
Upon reviewing the contributions of a user named "Mr. Planck", I'm becoming a bit suspicious it might be another Monterrosa sock. Take a look and tell me what you think based on Monterrosa's past persistence. If this is in fact another sock, I will say it is more subtle than previous ones (namely IP's).
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XXSNUGGUMSXX: Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention. I had reverted them after they added the same occupations on Neil Patrick Harris that the sockmaster had, but did not think twice about it. Now that I see the contributions, it is without a doubt Monterrosa and I have opened a SPI on the new account. STATicmessage me!
04:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Justin Bieber
Just want you to know the last talk (BLPN) we had did get the section removed January 3, 2014. We should keep up the consensus that is only a month old. On a side note disappointing that we have to do this every few months for the same shit.... We should link the 10 or so BLPN that have gotten this tabloid stuff removed ever-time. -- Moxy (talk) 07:51, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
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WP:WELLKNOWN. However, some of your comments on the talk page made sense, and the section needs trimming, but removing it completely is uncalled for. STATicmessage me!
07:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Actually we should "err on the side of caution" when it comes to BIOs always. Also the bold edits have been reverted ...so we talk about the concerns raised. We dont jam stuff in after many reverts and many concerns raised...this is the basic of how we do things here. -- Moxy (talk) 08:06, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi STATic, thank you for your contribution to the RfC on Justin Bieber's behaviour and legal issues. Some users have posted that the RfC is currently a mess, and that we need to be very explicit in what we agree to include and what we don't. As such, I have created a second survey, which cuts the content into points. Could you take the time to post your opinion on each point, whether you think it should be included or not, or summarized, or changed. It will be a bit tedious but we need your detailed input to move forward. Thanks again. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 05:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello STATic, sorry to bother you again about Bieber. Unfortunately, only 5 of the 16 editors who posted their opinion in the General survey part of Bieber's RfC posted again in the point-by-point survey. Progress simply isn't made - could you help to post in the responses to above points subsection to move it forward? Thank you very much. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 08:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
hes jewish!
danny mcbride is part jewish his mother is part his grandma is half — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.235.28 (talk) 23:02, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Pharrell Williams
Hi STATicVapor.
Pharrell rap's nickname is Skateboard P. He's been saying that all over and if you listened to his album you should know that.
Please answer soon,
ErezCorech. Erezcorech (talk) 16:47, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
@Erezcorech: Did you not read my edit summary? See Template: Infobox musical artist/doc, the section is not for nicknames, only official stage names that the artist performs under or releases music under. STATicmessage me! 17:01, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Editor DQtheBoss
Hello, STATicVapor. This editor (DQtheBoss) came up on my radar while patrolling for vandalism and other unconstructive edits. Perhaps you would not mind checking to see if this editor is editing appropriately? You are more familiar with music material than I am, and I am not familiar with the topics DQtheBoss is editing, though I am familiar with some of the musical artists.
Okay, STATicVapor, thanks. I see that he is now indefinitely blocked. And
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CM Punk
Your revert to my edits were borderline on bad faith. You didn't work to fix the references "problem" that you saw, you completely undid my edits to the text as well. A three (formerly four) sentence paragraph does not need the same two sources pasted again and again after every full stop. Please do not revert/undo my edit again. Antoshi☏★ 17:57, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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unverifiable it will be reverted, no question about it. If you would have bothered to see my next edit, I fixed it in the correct way that you should have. STATicmessage me!
18:58, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
My edit was not incorrect—the citations are still there, but not in the overkill method of posting them after every sentence. Yes, I did see your next edit but, again, you completely undid my changes to the text and left it that way. Putting it at the end of the first and last sentence probably isn't too much of a compromise, but it still seems silly to post the same thing multiple times in such a short span. If anything, I'd imagine it could confuse the reader as they may think there's more information beyond the first couple of cites, only to realize it's the same links repeated. Antoshi☏★ 19:07, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
@Antoshi: Now they are, in your first attempt they were not clearly citing the content as is required. I agree it did look bad and was overkill, that is why I edited it after I reverted, you are acting like I reverted you and did not touch the content again. The revert was only to help me get the content back, so I could then edit it, there is no reason to get so upset about it. But the way you did edit it (the first time) made the content look unsourced as you should be able to clearly see that. STATicmessage me! 19:23, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Look at my diff again. I didn't remove the citations, I removed the excess ones after the first, the ones using the refname. Antoshi☏★ 22:08, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
@Antoshi: Yes check the diff again, you left "By Wednesday, WWE.com stopped advertising Punk for future events. The Wrestling Observer reported Punk had legitimately left the event on Monday after telling Vince McMahon he was "going home"" seemingly unsourced.STATicmessage me! 22:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Because it was already cited... I don't understand why this is such a huge deal. It's right there for the reader to check, just go back a couple sentences. Antoshi☏★ 22:40, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Just here to discuss. :P So far, there has been no "Headlights"
RazorEye
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RazorEyeEdits: A release to radio, is a single release. A small limited radio release the week of the album's release is one thing, but a release to Top-40 radio months later in a major English speaking country, still counts as a single release. At least in hip hop, radio is the only possible release besides digital download (which never occurs after the album's release), since CD and vinyl releases for singles are basically unhearded of in 2014. Not even Pop acts receive those sort of releases these days, and format are not specified in their articles either. As you can see by the sources cited in "Headlights" article [11] and [12], it is the album's fifth overall single. STATicmessage me!
04:20, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
This is assuming promotional singles (the definition of which is literally singles released to radio), are singles, which they're not, really. Every Promo CD you find will say either "Promo Only", "Not for Sale", or a variation of the same phrase. Promotional singles co-exist with Promotional EPs and Promotional albums aswell, which is why certain non-single songs can still be played on the radio. Basically, what I'm saying is that a single is a music release that is commercially sold, and can be released on any format. A promotional single is a music release that is released promotionally and is not commercially sold, including singles released for free. A release to radio is not a commercial release, so it cannot be bought or sold, unlike singles, albums and EPs.
Since not a lot of people get this, however, promotional singles are being grouped with singles on Wikipedia, considering it's the same type of release (Short, usually 1-track music releases are usually Singles as opposed to Albums and EPs, but that's a debate on it's own!). One of the many ways Promotional singles are included with singles is the addition of promo singles to album infoboxes. Adding (Promo) isn't feasible, since not a lot of people will understand what the word promo, in relation to music, is. This is why (radio) is added instead, since "Radio single" is already a popular term to describe a promotional single. This is the reason why I added (radio) to the infobox in the first place, and quite reasonably, I don't see what the problem is other than yet another misunderstanding of promotional singles.
RazorEye
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However, an official release to radio as a single occurred. It is not even a country specific release, as it is being released to the second biggest radio format in the US in less than a month. As I said, the sources that are cited refer to the song as the fifth single, not as a promotional single, so it would be
WP:OR to called it this, or to just call it a radio single. It is an official single. STATicmessage me!
05:03, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Street King
I must again apologize for my disruptive editing as I did on Street King Immortal. The article had to be redirected because the album was experiencing numerous delays. I promise it won't happen again. DBrown SPS 13:47, 13 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBrown SPS (talk • contribs)
Hiding this here. You'll know what I mean. The accessdates are the key to finding "Mr Sawko" if he turns up again. Even the newest accounts did not put the year in the accessdates for the signature moves. - fan of JoMo - 08:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Jimmy Henchman page
I noticed that someone keeps wiping out all the work on the Jimmy Henchman page. I know you worked hard on it as did I and many other people. Some editors are wiping out everything including Henchman's new convictions etc. It's already been litigated. Do you have any tips on how to keep this from happening again? Scholarlyarticles (talk) 21:12, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you for your courageous work on the Jimmy Henchman page. Scholarlyarticles (talk) 22:33, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
@Scholarlyarticles: Thanks, I tried to help as much as I can, but with all the disruptive editors on the page now, I see it as usless to argue, as I doubt we will ever win. STATicmessage me! 05:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Maybe but it was litigated a long time ago. I left a note on Dennis Brown's page who helped mediate. It might be worth giving him a yodel.Scholarlyarticles (talk) 05:22, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
I thought you might want to know, we're being tag-teamed by 3 people who are coordinating efforts off the talk page. (I've found the relevant diffs). Some of the people have been involved in this for a couple years. One administrator who has involved in this attack was ousted from the board. She left a year and a half ago after she kept trying to get the whole page squashed and then trying to get certain parts removed- it was resolved by Dennis Brown. This came up again because an anonymous IP address, Henchman's agent, lodged a complaint elsewhere on WP on January 23, 2014. The three editors involved coordinated off the Henchman talk page and decided to attack the page again as of January 23, 2014. They didn't let the talk page know of the complaint or their intended attack or of their coordination. They won't hear of logic. This has been going on for near 2 years. I just wanted you to know I recognize your frustration and commend you efforts. Please don't get discouraged. I'm creating an analysis of the diffs to present to the appropriate people and places. Haven't worked so hard since my dissertation. Best wishesScholarlyarticles (talk) 18:41, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
@Scholarlyarticles: Yes, three stubborn editors all in coalition, it is ridiculous. I tried to fight back the first few days, but after blocks were threatened towards me and TheRedPen's violation of 3rr was deemed appropriate, it became much to stressful to me. I would be happy to help more, but my time on Wikipedia is clogged up in more pressing and much less stressful issues. Just keep in mind, these users are not listening or abiding by the agents wishes, I believe the editor removed anything he didn't deem in his "almighty wisdom", that was not backed by a reliable source, when definitely some of it was, including the 2Pac issue. I believe their major problem was that most of the content was backed by trial documents which them deemed unreliable, primary sources. STATicmessage me! 19:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
FYI, there was NO "TheRedPen's violation of 3rr" - as
So @TheRedPenOfDoom: which one of us are you stalking? Time to get a life my friend. Again you are wrong about that, you crying BLP, BLP, over and over is the only reason anyone listened to you. You are way to much to deal with, that is why I chose not to carry on the issue, so get over it. STATicmessage me! 20:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
You have nerves of steel Vapor. And Red, the exact same BLP issues were looked at in 2012 when you were edit warring then with your previous companion. Your new complaints are noted and will be taken under advisement (as will your tactics for examining them). Keep up the good work, Vapor. All the best, Scholarlyarticles (talk) 22:55, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
WP:WPMAG. The section should only list their major works (usually just studio album), really minor mixtapes and compilations should generally be left to the main discography page. If we included every single project, you could imagine how long page's like Lil Wayne's would get. STATicmessage me!
16:44, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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WP:AIV due to them already receiving a final warning this month. In the future, just make a report on WP:AIV if you ever seen a user/IP having already received a final warning within the last two/three weeks or so, instead of warning them again. However, I just checked again and the user has not edited in three days, so the report might be declined for being stale. STATicmessage me!
16:44, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Reason
And your reason if wanting me to have a permenant block is because I wrote on his talk page that he was blocked for the period of six months? Ok I'll tell you why I did that because he did it too me and I wasn't able to get rid of it do to me only being able to edit my user talk page only and for those three to four months everyone saw I was blocked, I was humiliated. Imagine that happening to you, would you have done the same thing to show that person who humiliated you and cast you out as a sockpuppet so that nobody trusts you on Wikipedia. That is why I did that. - TreCoolGuy
@TreCoolGuy: I understand how you must have felt, but in no way does that give you the right to vandalize his page. STATicmessage me! 20:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Then you understand why I did that. I know it wasn't the right thing to do, hell I should have thought before doing so. I just wanted to show him how it felt. - TreCoolGuy
(talk page stalker) Yeah......there is just so much wrong with your reasoning and actions. You don't stoop as low as someone else, just to retaliate. That not only bad Wiki etiquette, that's just general bad etiquette. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
'One Piece' Page Change Enquiry
Hey Static,
Just realised you changed the edit of one piece that i did today.
I added the genre 'fantasy' to the page because it is. It contains dragons, talking toys, mermaids, talking fish, giants and other mythical creatures featured in the series. As such all of these features fit in the fantasy genre.
From this information could you please undo the edit to the page that you have done or let me change it back to what I did earlier today.
Thanks for listening (and hopefully understanding what I'm trying to say)
reliable sources that label it under that genre. Also, if you would have read the hidden note, it said genre changes need to be discussed on Talk: One Piece. STATicmessage me!
17:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Akons new album "Not released"
Hi there.
I am kinda new (well I've been here for a while, but I kind of never spend time editing...)
@Mahnas 92: No worries, and yeah it is yet to be released, which is clear as there is no release date there. But it is due for release this year, that is why it just says 2014. STATicmessage me! 20:44, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
I still don't see the logic in that.
If it is "due to 2014", and it is stated it will be released as CD/Digital DL, shouldn't there be a reference? There are no (reliable) sources for this!
The album release has been delayed ever since 2010 too!
Could you please explain this to me.
@Mahnas 92: CD/Digital is a given, not as a Vinyl release would be dubious. As for a 2014 release, I could not find a source, so I am going to change it to "TBA". STATicmessage me! 21:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, of course it is, that's not what I meant. I meant that when this info is stated and "released" states "2014" instead of "Not Yet Released", this, by logic, implies the album is released 2014 in the given formats...
As long s there is no explaing from your side, as giving a reference to some kind of "standardization" of how to use different terms, I don't understand what got into your mind to actually revert the simple, and completly correct three-word edit.
Mahnas 92 (talk) 23:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
ARTPOP Consensus
"Change it again and suffer the consequences" - Are you serious? Are you a villain from a bad 80s movie? Look, my edits on the ARTPOP page (and others, as you seem to be following me around now) have been an uphill battle against you until I prove, without a shred of doubt, that what I'm saying is fact and you physically can't oppose me anymore. As shown by numerous messages on this talk page, you've run into opposition quite often and don't like having your edits questioned and respond with hostility and threats; in this case, those cannot be allowed to work. I've sourced two different, highly credible sources that prove what I'm trying to state and you continue to revert and threaten anyway based on... your own opinion? Yes, there are more mixed reviews on Metacritic but the consensus is "generally favorable", and as I've pointed out, multiple other wikipedia album pages in that situation still read 'generally positive", but if you want to completely discredit that source, fine. The Huffington Post is not a source you can just discredit as my own "incorrect interpretation": it lists multiple high profile reviews and states that the consensus is positive. That's indisputable. You've called my edits biased because they tend to have a generally positive trend to them, but they are the way they are because the ARTPOP page was one with a negative bias when I started editing it; in this situation, the facts are not on your side. I don't know why you've tried to incite some kind of personal war against me (attempting to revert my edits on pages completely unrelated to the one where our disagreement originated) but I don't wish for it to continue. You can't really argue against this edit (even if other users agree with you, they're operating on their own conjecture and not sourcing anything. That's not reliable or factual in any way and is something that you've tried to use against me in the past), so please just let it be. This is absolutely exhausting.
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WP:NPOV. Also, vandalism complaining about me reverting them, is not opposition. I have no time to read your wall of text, the consensus among six editors (including you) is against you, end of story. Do not bring it back months later thinking the controversial content will be magically allowed now, because it wont. Reviews were mixed and you just admitted that more reviews were mixed, so why in the world would we change it to just positive. I get it, you are a huge fan, but changing it over and over against consensus wont result in anything, but your eventual block. STATicmessage me!
01:54, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Where are you getting that I admitted that the consensus was mixed? I've argued against that statement multiple times. You're foregoing the facts and just running with your own opinion that the critical consensus is mixed. It's not true and you continually fail to address the fact that there are no sources backing up what you're saying. We disagree on an edit; you can't just delete my changes on some implication that I'm a fan of Lady Gaga when I'm giving you sources that say the opposite of what you're saying and then refuse to address my points entirely because you don't feel like it. That, my friend, would be vandalism. (Also, I have no intention of stopping because what I'm saying is sourced and factual)
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WP:CONSENSUS, this is not "you vs. me", it is you vs. five different editors that clearly disagree with your edit.STATicmessage me!
02:17, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
None of you have sourced anything. (I can bold things too)
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WP:CONSENSUS is all that matters. Sometimes I feel like I have to bold things to combat your illiteracy. STATicmessage me!
02:31, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Let me first point out the laughably conflicting nature of you pointing out that I have, in fact, agreed that there are more mixed reviews then positive on Metacritic and then spitting accusations of illiteracy in reference to the same piece of information that you simultaneously claim I've ignored and admitted to. I've stated, multiple times now, that a focus on the number of categorical reviews is an overly simplistic approach that Metacritic itself does not adhere to. The source that you claim to be citing undermines your argument; Metacritic presents a mathematically calculated weighted score based on the philosophy that large journals such as Entertainment Weekly, Billboard, etc. have accrued more integrity over their run and, in turn, have more bearing on the ultimate consensus, which is why the consensus reads "generally favorable reviews". According to your logic (again, that Metacritic does not adhere to), small blog-based start-up sites that have a history of false reporting (the Examiner, to give an example) would be given equal weight in deciding the consensus as an established and respected journal like Entertainment Weekly. I've spelled this issue out multiple times, but instead of responding to it with sources or even measured argument, you've resorted to repeating your original argument of "Numbers!!!!! More mixed reviews!!! That's all that matters!!!" and threatening to block me from editing for questioning your own viewpoint of the critical consensus that blatantly ignores the consensus listed on the only source you have. In regards to the other wikipedia users who have agreed with you; you have to admit that their arguments are rarely coherent and ultimately repeat the same argument "there are more mixed reviews listed and that's all that matters" that I've already raised issue with. Rushton2010 spouted off his own personal narrative based on his research in reading the reviews (a practice you've accused me of in the past and pointed out was against the guidelines of wikipedia); the others acted on similar lines (Sven Manguard gave his own personal interpretation of a 60% Metacritic score, again, against the policies of wikipedia in your own words, as did Smarty9108). You keep redirecting me to various guideline pages in the hopes that that will make you out to seem like the educated veteran dealing with a persistent and ignorant nuisance, but the fact is the page on consensus states, and I quote: "The quality of an argument is more important than whether it represents a minority or a majority view." - You've discussed your own personal interpretation of one source (that the source doesn't concur with) and I've given you another valid one from a respectable journal that lists multiple different reviews and draws the conclusion that the consensus was positive and instead of responding to that in any way (other than calling it an "early" list of reviews when you've previously attempted to use smaller, lesser sources that not only didn't refer to other reviews, but that were published on dates on or very close to the date that my new source was published to support your factually inaccurate opinion of the consensus), you just repeated your original argument of "Numbers!!! More mixed reviews!! That's all that matters!!" again. I came back four months later (after being ignored in the talk page for that duration of time; how do you expect me to react if I can't engage in debate to make the truth available for your consumption?) and attempted to assert my factually sourced consensus with a new source and you responded with a threat. I've laid out the facts. The consensus is generally positive. Not unanimously positive, not simply "positive", but generally positive. That's not me saying that, it's the source you claim to be citing and The Huffington Post. End of story. (Sidenote: most of the "mixed" reviews on Metacritic are 60, AKA one point below positive, and have obvious positive leanings, but that's too obvious and lengthy to go into detail about. I won't go into detail on the numerous critics who have taken issue with the biased and unintelligible reviews that critics gave the album as that's not the issue here, but that is also something to take into account.)
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WP:CONSENSUS is the relevant policy, so now stop bugging, you are wasting your time and energy. None of your long responses are going to change the policy. You're not gonna achieve any consensus here and I can tell you right now my opinion is not going to change. So if someone agrees with you on Talk: Artpop
then we can return to that discussion, if not then just let it go. 05:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
If you will so arrogantly refuse to adhere to well-sourced fact out of your own blind ignorance and adherence to a policy that I've already proved doesn't support your claims and logic that I've repeatedly pointed out as faulty because my responses are "long", then fine. A consensus has not been reached as I am and will continue to be a dissenting voice and your repeated linking to
Personally, I think thanks to Holt (if we are to believe that that is who he is) has single-handedly expanded the article 5x. All we need to do is get rid of some of the unsourced/poorly sourced content and do some other fixes and we have a DYK hook.--Launchballer 10:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Mmm. I should've smelt a rat when he changed the chart positions to those of You're Nobody 'til Somebody Loves You! My problem with your signature is not the stuff in it, but the order of the stuff; I use WP:SYNTAXHIGHLIGHER, and it breaks the entire page for me. Hence my rearrangement of the bits.--Launchballer 17:44, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
@Launchballer: Oh okay, no issue then. I just recently fixed it anyways so you wont have to worry about doing that again. Not sure what to do with this article though, I am thinking AfD, but I think I will only do that if this person returns to adding the hoax content, because if they do not stop it'll just become tedious. STATicmessage me! 21:14, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Associated acts on My Chemical Romance
You have a point with Electric Century, probably not noteworthy yet. However The Used do not fit the criteria for association.
As stated on the wiki page for Template:Infobox_musical_artist
"The following uses of this field should be avoided:. One-time collaboration for a single, or on a single song" Nitromaster (talk) 21:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
@Nitromaster: But as I said, the bands did tour together, which is one of the other criteria for listing acts, which is present in the templates documentation. STATicmessage me! 21:11, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
You mean the line "toured with as a single collaboration act playing together"? That means them playing on the same stage at the same time. Else it'd be a really long list as every band they ever toured with would be notable.... Nitromaster (talk) 21:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you!
Thank you for being so calm and professional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoodGod13 (talk • contribs) 11:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Great job on the edits - question about e-cigs page
Hey StaticVapor,
Great job on keeping it all under control on the pages.
Wanted to know your opinion with the latest happenings in the e-cig industry. Can we add the latest Altria acquisition? These acquisitions are changing the e-cig industry.
Didn't want to make any additions without your input.
Thanks!
Itsabouttime
Itsabouttime (talk) 13:43, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help find a resolution. The thread is "Artpop".
Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! EarwigBotoperator / talk 19:34, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the edit (& a question)
As a newbie to Wikipedia editing: thanks for the quick simplifying edit to the genre label for the
People Under The Stairs
page I've been working on. I was under the impression that we wanted to be more detailed, so I went overboard. I've made conforming edits to all of the group's album pages as well. I noticed you've been doing this a while, so I have a question for you, though (sorry if this gets long...):
I've been tasked by Thes One (from People Under The Stairs) to spearhead a fan effort to bulk up the group's pages (because I've done other web work previously), add information where it is missing, get some citations in there, etc. (They've been in the "underground" rap game for nearly 20 years now, and they've had modest sales, so I think it's time.) I've still got a long road ahead of me, but in the meantime, I hit a snag that I hope a more experienced editor of Wikipedia can help me with:
Some history: I put in a request a few days back to change the page title to capitalize the "The" in "People Under the Stairs", and it was approved. My justification was that the group has stylized it this way on their albums and at shows since their third album in 2002, it's like this on their official page, all their social media contain it this way, and they're known as "PUTS", not "PUtS" or "PUS" (thank god). Just like "KISS" or "CunninLynguists", it's a common and widely-held stylization, not a preference.
Anyway, while making conforming changes to all the PUTS links across Wikipedia, a guy un-did the capitalization edit on the CunninLynguists page, and when I gently turned it back (citing the reasons I just gave you above), the guy un-did my undo, and took the further step of reverting my initial edit to the People Under The Stairs page title (back to "the"). He also posted some stuff on my talk page that I'm not sure I fully agree with regarding reliable sources (I could come with just as many to refute his point... Pandora, MySpace, Discogs, etc.), and said that the group's opinion doesn't matter.
I believe you've clashed with this user a couple of times as well, and his move smacks of retaliation (but maybe that's me being paranoid). He doesn't seem to let go very easily when challenged, too, which may mean that I may regret any consensus or dispute efforts that I undertake. I'm all about civility and not looking to get into any gigantic wiki editing conflicts or reversion wars; I just want to do my best to fix the PUTS pages up a bit (in the most wiki-editor-appeasing fashion), and then leave well enough alone.
So now the question: does he have a leg to stand on, and I'm being a little nitpicky here? Being someone who's been on wiki a while, do you think I should push or just leave it alone? I'd appreciate your opinion. Thanks. Respectfully, PatrickTaormina (talk) 16:18, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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WP:MOS, so its just one of those things you have to live with. STATicmessage me!
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@STATicVapor: Oh, no problem at all. I figured it might take a sec; thanks for taking the time to respond. And thanks also for the props. I completely get where you're coming from. I actually had just erased my post here before you replied because I spoke to Thes One & he told me not to worry about it. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) that "The" is correct, but you have to play by the rules of the locals ("When in Rome...", and all that), so he didn't think starting anything would be a good idea. Now that you've essentially confirmed that, I'll consider it a done deal and keep moving with the more substantive things that are probably more worth my time. Glad we agree, and thanks again. Peace! PatrickTaormina (talk) 20:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
@PatrickTaormina: Yes, I was just going to tell you that. More worth your time writing and building content, rather then arguing about a minor thing. I am glad both you and Thes have a positive understanding about it. You're welcome, peace out bro. STATicmessage me! 21:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
do you have time to to look my sandbox and advise
I'm trying to show the disruptive edits and how the specific issues were resolved in 2012. Then I will consider with whom to air them. Because the specific issues the trio are edit warring about have been discussed and vetted once, it may be appropriate for the Arbitration Committee. You're more experienced that I and I was wondering if you can help by taking a look see at the case I'm building and if you have any diffs to add. By the way, I don't think it's the transcripts that are the issue. Scholarlyarticles (talk) 23:14, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
@Scholarlyarticles: I do not think they are going to listen to anything about 2012 or the former AfD, I saw all the drama you went through back then and I felt bad, that's basiclly the only reason I watched the page in the first place. I think it might be best to discuss every single bit of content they removed and state why you think it should be restored, and provide enough reliable sources for the addition where they can't say anything about it. STATicmessage me! 16:47, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
I understand but the trio does not care about the sources if they've read them at all. RedPenofDoom seems to have a personal investment in presenting a slant. The new tag team seems to want to run us out by baiting, and harassing. They don't want to discuss content. RedPenofDoom deleted a number of times over the years without discussion. Back then in 2012, a group other editors sent me notifications to comment in what I now understand to be a request for help, but many didn't want to get openly involved. I guess that's because of who Henchman is. On the other hand, I was getting reverted and stalked, and gossiped about (offline).
For editors with a POV to email offline and speculate about the identity of editors who work on the pages of a violent criminal fretting his WP page is a safety issue here and very bad for WP. Scholarlyarticles (talk) 17:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
"For editors with a POV to email offline and speculate about the identity of editors..." Scholarlyarticles, what exactly are you referring to here? --NeilNtalk to me 20:56, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
NeilN, I think there's been a misunderstanding. I wasn't referring to you or anyone currently on the board. I can see how some of the things I've said can be seen as cryptic and non-specific. The reason for the veiled references is because there was a situation a year and a half ago. I was told to de-emphasize anyone's mistakes. It was resolved. I'm not mentioning anyone by name. The person is gone. There was a consequent discussion between me (a newbie) and very knowledgable WP sources offline. They told me to downplay any mistakes. I've done it. Wild horses could not drag it out of me. It was not pleasant for anyone involved. I don't think anyone wants to go there again. Lets proceed by the Principle of Least Drama. Let's take the high road. Trevj is looking at a proposal so we can all put this behind us. BestScholarlyarticles (talk) 21:21, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
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T.I. Image
What do you mean by free image? It's his instagram picture, no one is charging or copyrighting that picture? I don't understand why a 5 year old picture would be left on his page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs) 21:47, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
@BlaccCrab: Well it is the best image we have available and it is not like he has gone under some drastic change, he still looks the same. Read WP:Image use policy. If only we were able to just take images from social networking sites, but we can't. They are not public domain. STATicmessage me! 21:53, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Go a bit easy on Alexrock98
Yeah, I get the editor doesn't get English Wikipedia, but the editor isn't a native English speaker. You just have to look at the grammar (the RIAA for instance). I'm sure the edits are sourced, and the editor's most recent edit actually added a source (for once), and the editor does need to provide the sources. In my opinion, it would be better to nudge the editor along and tag non-controversial material rather than remove it outright or have the editor blocked. This edit was a bit rough. I was checking the facts and found the RIAA certification while you were removing the material. Since I didn't have access to the templates, I made an intermediate edit and then found how to add the certification. Remember, don't bite the newcomers.
On the whole, though, you do a great job. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:52, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
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genre warring anymore and they have started to provide sources for their additions. STATicmessage me!
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Absurd comedy television series
Hi, I noticed you removed my edits. I'm not sure why, unless you've never seen the TV shows themselves. Or maybe you don't consider an animated cartoon to be comparable to live-action comedy. So I would love to hear your explanation. User:Kjell Knudde 6:11, 24 February 2014 (CET)
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Production credit on godwilln'
Please do your research and google Buda da future and you will see we are a production duo, check twitter instagram YouTube and all other social media. We also advised the artist himself, he apologized for the mix up on the actual release. What ever else you need I can provide if you want the instrumental of the track or any other details of the actual beat I can provide that also. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandzmuzik (talk • contribs) 00:23, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
@Grandzmuzik: Okay, I found a source and added it back to the article. You should have explained this or provided a source the first time you were reverted, not wait till now. How were we supposed to know that you were not just seem struggle producer trying to get his name on Wikipedia? STATicmessage me! 00:32, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Input needed
Hi Static, can you please take a look at the Half of a Yellow Sun article. I was going through the article yesterday and changed the section "accolades" to "soundtrack". Jamie Tubers, a user working on the article, reverted my edit and said that my edit wasn't appropriate. Can you please read this section of the article and tell me if you would consider the release of the "Bother You" song an "accolade". (Section: Accolades). I left a note on the user talk page and provided several reliable references, which specifically state that the song is a soundtrack to the film. Here's a link to the thread on the user talk page: User talk:Jamie Tubers#Half of a yellow sun. I don't want to be involved in an edit war so I decided to leave a message on the user talk page. The user responded, completely ignoring the definition of accolade; he/she went as far as trying to justify his/her decision by highlighting few words here and there. Can you please take a look at that section of the article and read the thread I left on the user's talk page and tell me what you think. I would really appreciate that. Thanks! versace1608 (talk) 13:40, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Static, I'm still waiting for your response. Thanks! You proabably didn't see this section. You get tons of notes on a daily basis so it's easy to loose track of everything on your talk page. versace1608 (talk) 15:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
@Versace1608: Sorry about that, I completly missed this. I took care of it though, an artist writing a song about it is nothing of an "accolade," no madder how huge the artist is in Africa. BTW I am not sure if you would know, but has D'banj officially left GOOD Music? I have noticed some rumors about it. STATicmessage me! 15:51, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I heard rumours about it too. The info on his official twitter account has been updated but this is still speculation. No reliable source has confirmed it. Once the news is confirmed, I'll let you know and you can update the good music article. And thanks for making the necessary corrections. versace1608 (talk) 16:03, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes exactly, I did not want to make any official change unless a reliable source had definitely reported it. And fosho sounds good. STATicmessage me! 20:33, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Main Chick by Kid Ink
You're right that there is no official radio release source yet but I find it laughable that you think the artist uploading the official artwork to the song on his vevo channel means "nothing". Juicy J did the same thing with Talkin Bout the week before he released that to radio — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs) 01:31, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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WP:OR to assume that means it is the next single. Most of all being released that was does that not make it a single release date, as nothing was released. I monitor the radio release websites so if there is a release of course I catch it. I did create the article for the song, so of course I would hope it is the next single, but we have zero official confirmation for this. Speculation is not allowed. STATicmessage me!
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My bad man, I remembered uploading the artwork when it became a single so I just got it confused when I was trying to remember the pages I made haha — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs)
@BlaccCrab: No worries aha, that's what it seemed like. Also, when you post on talk pages use ~~~~ to sign your name. STATicmessage me! 00:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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. It is absolutely appropriate and within reason to collapse discussions that are not focused on improving article content and have wandered off of vague accusations of secrit cabals.
There is no reason for such content to be cluttering the talk page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:36, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
@TheRedPenOfDoom: Then collapse or better yet use <!-- --> to contain the "inappropriate" part of the discussion. A large majority of the conversation WAS about improving the article, no matter how you want to paint it. There is no such thing as cluttering a talk page, its a talk page, it will all be archived eventually. STATicmessage me! 17:18, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
It WAS collapsed. YOU removed the collapsing. And no, "hiding" it within hidden comment arrows is NOT how it is handled.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:20, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
and yes, there most certainly is cluttering the talk page with inappropriate content, like suggestions of secrit cabals and other commentary not about article content / sources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:21, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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civilly talk to another human being do you? As I said, collapse the content about secret cabals and all that, but NOT the whole damn section. STATicmessage me!
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Obviously no one wants to edit-war with you over what should be collapsed. Since you uncollapsed it but now you're saying some of it ought to be collapsed, why don't you collapse what *you* think is inappropriate so that no one treads on your toes? Do you suppose it's "civil" to expect others to read your mind?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
@Alf.laylah.wa.laylah: I have not been following the discussion for many threads now, I honestly have no idea what TrpOD is referring to, all I saw is a bunch of my comments collapsed when I went to the talk page, when I was obviously not talking about "secret" cabals and all this stuff. STATicmessage me! 18:02, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Well if you're not following the discussion then why do you care what's collapsed? The talk page has become useless. If you really don't care, it would be easiest if you'd revert your uncollapse. If you do care, figure out what you think is relevant and collapse that. It seems simple.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 18:05, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I just restored it, I cannot believe I was ever caught in this mess TrpOD made. No wonder I left that uncivil discussion. STATicmessage me! 18:09, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! And you're right, I also can't believe you ever got caught in incivil discussion! What a strange world we live in.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 18:20, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
The Yeezus Tour
I'm not sure what you mean when you wrote "well I'm sure you can't explain these changes." First off, the boxscore for most of the North American dates weren't even sourced when I first looked at the article. The source used for them was just a source saying how much the tour grossed so far, not the attendance and revenue for each venue. I had to find the source for these shows and cited all of them next to the leg name. With your recent edit, you added Drake, and some other rapper to the opening acts. The source for the opening act does not provide this information. All in all, I want to avoid an edit war with you. Thanks! — TheMadonnaMusicCN (talk, contribs) 07:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
@TheMadonnaMusicCN: You messed up the whole special guest section when you changed the table. I have been following the tour from the beginning and on kanyewest.com next to every show (before it happened), it said who the special guests were. You made them factully incorrect in multiple places, removing Kendrick Lamar from shows for some reason, saying Lamar and A Tribe Called Quest performed at the same shows, when that never happened. There were sources supporting surprise appearances from Drake, E-40 and Busta Rhymes before you changed the table and removed them. All in all, the table is better, the first time you made it you just messed up in quite a few places. STATicmessage me! 15:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
I see - I wasn't aware of that ongoing discussion - I won't do any further edits/reverts until the matter is solved - though, I am not sure about the status quo ante; i.e. the condition the article was in before the Bold edit was made?! --IIIraute (talk) 07:18, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I justed filed an ANI complaint about Reece Leonard here. I thought I should let you know because I raised concerns about something he's been posting on other people's talk pages which mentions both you and myself: [16], [17], [18], [19], [20]. You may be asked for your opinion. In case you wanna keep an eye on it. Homeostasis07 (talk) 16:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
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86th Academy Awards
You're welcome. Go with an admin if you want to thank me more, or stop being ironic with me.
WP:OR and the BRD was not on me, but on the IP that had reverted another user without giving a reason. STATicmessage me!
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I don't care about the content, but the users who are attempting to start a edit-war on a highly-visible page. The IP reverted Wikipedical removal of content, which is by no way justified by personal reasons. Any attempt to remove such content has to be discussed. And if I added original research, once again, report me to admins and don't make jokes with me.
WP:OR, is zero reason for me wasting my time reporting you, as I usually have no problem with your edits. There is zero reason for the condescending attitude. STATicmessage me!
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DYK for Bed Peace
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Trill Ent
Your information is invalid. The changes I made are true. Trill Ent is based in Baton Rouge, LA as the website you have linked states. Apply false information again and I will report you to the company. You do not own Trill Ent, Torrence Hatch my brother does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DSkywalker83 (talk • contribs) 09:13, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
@DSkywalker83: You removed sourced content about Phat's murder without giving a valid reason, that is the only reason you were reverted. Also do not throw around threats, or you are likely to be blocked from editing. STATicmessage me! 09:28, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Rick Ross - MasterMind
How did I add "my personal commentary"? The review gave the album an A-. That's a rave review. There's no other review out yet, and certainly not a negative or average review. Ergo, THE ALBUM WAS MET WITH RAVE REVIEWS.
Right now the page says "Upon its release, Mastermind was met with generally positive reviews from music critics." review(S) and music critic(S) as in plural. There's one review out. And it's certainly not "generally positive" it is an ACCLAIMED review. Ergo, if we're getting technical, TECHNICALLY, the album has been met with ACCLAIM not "generally positively". 02:17, 3 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding
@Tbhotch: Okay, chill yourself out. There is no reason you should be taking it so personal at all. The IP is now blocked thanks to the final warning I gave them, so what is your problem? What has changed in the world now that the post is not there? Besides it does not make you look ridiculous for warning him/her for an edit they had already been warned for. STATicmessage me! 04:49, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
In case you don't know, I also reverted such edit, the difference is you reverted it a few seconds before me. The IP is not "now blocked thanks to the final warning [you] gave them", it is blocked thanks to his own vandal edits. I am here as it is totally incorrect you removed one post I made. And as
How are you? I hope the actor you bet on wins tonight. I just wanted to drop you a friendly note over he and asked if you'd be willing to comment on my new RfD certified by Red, Al, an NeilN. Would you be willing to do so? Not canvassing, just a friendly reminder. Also since I've never been through this maybe you can me with the process. BestScholarlyarticles (talk) 05:01, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Nope, not canvassing. Why? Because it's "just a friendly reminder"! Gone fishing...— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 05:03, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
How was my page a redirect? I'm the first edit so what was the page called prior to it being called "We Dem Boyz" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs) 07:08, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
So i made the page, you canceled it for not charting then made it after I did and count it as your own? Just like when you took credit for when I uploaded My Krazy Life's artwork right? lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs) 07:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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WP:NSONGS that is the notability for songs criteria, your "article" clearly failed it. I wrote nearly the entire current article did I not? Your sentence was not used at all in my article, so you have zero claim to creating anything. You uploaded a album artwork commons and it was going to get deleted like I told you dude. The only person falsly taking credit for anything is you, and I hope you know that can get you blocked or your userpage deleted. So do not play that game. For the third time, please sign your posts using four ~ symbols. STATicmessage me!
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Fact of the matter is that I found out about that song being released before you and you got rid of the page I made for that song.Then I found the artwork for that album before you, but you by technicalities (once again) take it away from me and upload it as your own. So if it makes you feel better to pretend you found out about things first then by all means use wikipedias rules as loop poles to take away credit from me. I'll sign my name when I stop getting ripped off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs) 07:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
@BlaccCrab: You think because I do not rush to create a stub that will be deleted that I did not know about it? I listened to it the day it came out. There is not credit for uploading a file? It is a damn file, what is the big praise for that? But I will not let you pretend you created the "We Dem Boyz" article. That is what you created. Not "We Dem Boyz", I wrote the article clear as day, not you. STATicmessage me! 07:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Alright bud, whatever you say. Even disregarding that song, I clearly uploaded the artwork for that album before you yet you take credit because I uploaded it to the wrong part of this website. After reading that Artpop argument there's clearly no point in reasoning with you about anything unless there's 100% full proof evidence to dispute it despite what the facts are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs) 08:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
@BlaccCrab: Where have I taken credit for it? Uploading an image first is not important and I would never care about that. And look at me being nice explaining to you how to upload them properly and you still act like this. STATicmessage me! 08:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I appreciate you showing me that but it's frustrating to have someone point out loop holes that discredit me over little things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs) 08:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
@BlaccCrab: I am not trying to discredit you about anything. None was due for "We Dem Boyz" and if I could have made a note on the image page I would, but you cannot leave edit summaries or anything like that. When I first started editing I cared about who uploaded images at first, but I realized its not even important to be the first at that, it does not make you look any more experienced, its just an album cover. If they are over 300x300 they will be tagged to be reduced and you will "lose credit" anyways. And I am pretty sure your upload was. STATicmessage me! 08:17, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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Rick Ross Mugshot
Hello. I went on Rick Ross' page to check out his biography and saw that a mug shot is being used for his photo. I'm sure that this wasn't intentional, but it just doesn't seem appropriate to use for an artist. I found this on Google Images; not sure if you can use it but it seems better, and more respectful.
@Vigelande12: There is a discussion on the talk page a few months ago where it was deemed okay. It is basically the only free image we have of his full face and it is not obviously a mugshot. STATicmessage me! 05:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Alonzo Holt
Why do you keep messing with my page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.35.53 (talk) 05:36, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Stop adding fake content, it is not your page. STATicmessage me! 05:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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You brought all of that before an advisement board and they disagreed. Stop sending me baseless messages and warnings. I don't care what you think about me, but seriously grow up and leave me alone.
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@Reece Leonard: Disagreed? User:Homeostasis07 did you see any "disagreement" at all? The administrators completely agreed with us and practically laughed off your ridiculous remarks. When you edit war, they are not baseless and if you continue with the horrid editing you will be blocked. Sorry brodie, but the only one that needs growing up is you. STATicmessage me! 07:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
You have a seriously warped vision of a board that ultimately decided that your claims against me were baseless and declined your request. What the hell is a brodie? Look, enough. Seriously. We're done discussing this and I'm done interacting with you unless I have no alternative.
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I will reiterate: Do not interact with me unless it is absolutely necessary to do so as I want to avoid these kinds of disagreements in the future. You are not allowed to remove other people's messages from talk pages, but I refuse to engage in your attempts to draw me into another argument so that you can have a second attempt at banning me. Enough. Do not interact with me again.
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WP:NPA which you continue to violate, the removal was clearly justified. STATicmessage me!
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I'm just going to point out this instance where you attempted to chastise me for doing exactly what you just did for the sole purpose of highlighting your hypocrisy before never speaking to you again: X
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personal attack like every single one of your damn posts. At least that person was commenting on the content not the contributors. Please do not ever do that again. I am so sick of seeing you saying my name in every single discussion. For you to think this is appropriate: [21][22][23][24][25] is ridiculous. STATicmessage me!
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You're choosing to interpret my actions as personal attacks. I think you've misinterpreted what I was trying to do with those messages on those user's pages. I wasn't trying to slander you at all; I was trying to combat the argument that they were going to see on those pages that you made about my alleged bias. That was it. I only mention your name when you're involved in the discussion at hand. Let me also point out that you were the one to initiate the "commenting on users instead of content" when you accused me of not having a
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WP:NPA you would know they are. I am not misinterpreting anything, you were blatantly slandering me across multiple pages. You need to learn to comment on content not contributors. And why do you think I accused you of not having a NPOV? Because you do not and it is blatantly obvious. But do not comment here again, I am done replying to you. STATicmessage me!
17:47, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Reece, whether your remarks were intended as personal attacks or not, this does seem to be a case of harassment on your part, which includes repeatedly doing things towards others that they find irritating.
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@Reece Leonard: Reece, just STOP! No admin ever agreed with your opinion. Anyone who wants to read the entire thing can do so here. That thread was simply automatically archived after 36 hours of inactivity. DO NOT USE IT AS AN EXCUSE TO HARASS OTHER USERS! Homeostasis07 (talk) 01:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
@Homeostasis07: Yeah good thing I brought the discussion back. Glad I am not the only one seeing this blatant harassment. How much you wanna bet he will violate either the topic or interaction ban before its over? I guess we will just have to watch for sockpuppets. STATicmessage me! 01:44, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: Agreed. Whatever the outcome of that discussion will be, Artpop and several other Gaga articles will still be on my Watchlist. My Wiki Watchlist is practically my home page: so any suspicious/unusual activity will immediately be reported. Homeostasis07 (talk) 01:55, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
The article Yeezus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Yeezus for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Prism -- Prism(talk) 18:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
808 Mafia
12 Hunna isnt in 808 Mafia, I been trying to contact you, Im the one thats actually In 808 Mafia. hes been kicked out. Josephdavinci (talk) 06:30, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
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reliable third party sources or official posts from one of the founders Southside/Lex Lugar to support your changes. We need to be able to detonate that you are actually officially in the group and not just a fan trying to get your name there to promote yourself. STATicmessage me!
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Tarentino verified it actuallyJosephdavinci (talk) 06:50, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Its in my direct messages on twitter how can I link it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephdavinci (talk • contribs) 07:09, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Promotional single vs Official
Okay so I know you will just tell me that any single that appears on the album and is available to purchase is official BUT...Dark Horse/Walking On Air were available for purchase as a promotional singles because they were simply available to purchase off the albums preorder. Break the Bank was released this way as well/has no radio release date so that can only mean that it's technically a promtional single too, right? BlaccCrab (talk) 10:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
@BlaccCrab: No "Break the Bank" was released for digital download as a single as seen here. This is referenced on the album and song article. STATicmessage me! 20:45, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Walking On air has that too, it's just a link to an individual song off amazon [26]. They were both released the same way, a song to download off of itunes pre-preorder BlaccCrab (talk) 20:52, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok so the link you gave me is just a link to the track off the album but I found the link to the single. How does a song being released on amazon qualify it as a single? a 6 minute track that never gets sent to radio can't possibly be considered an official single BlaccCrab (talk) 20:59, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
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WP:WAX and yes a six minute song that may be sent to radio is a single as I just explained. In no way is a radio release required to be a "official single". STATicmessage me!
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Maino age is 35
[27] this is a video on youtube that explains everything I've been telling you. I believe you have awful intentions to hide the truth (which is the man was born August 30, 1978), for reason im unaware; maybe because your jealous. He was one of three underage boys in 1994 to be sent to federal prison. Ten years later, when he got out, leaves him in his twenties. Ten years after that, which is current time, puts him in his thirties! im not sure of your personal reasons but please stop lying on his Wikipedia page it is hurtful to his fans. Don't know if this will change your opinion you seem dead set on ageing this man. But if authenticity means anything to you the honest truth will be displayed. 173.71.187.68 (talk) 17:47, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
That explains nothing. In the source does he say that he was born on August 30, 1978? Then it is
I didn't meant to be annoying on the page 'Yours Truly'
I just didn't know...
The reason I tried it a second time is that I thought there was something wrong with my internet.
Sorry
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@Flumen-fulmen: No problem at all, you are a beginner, mistakes are completely understandable. STATicmessage me! 19:14, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Magna Carta
Are you looking at the review comments Static? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 16:08, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
@IndianBio: Sorry for lag, I shall get to them either early in the day today or tomorrow, so if you would like feel free to detail another section. STATicmessage me! 17:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Stop bullying me
Stop playing the enforcer and stop bullying people as a meatpuppett. GabeMc(talk|contribs) 18:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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meatpuppet even is... This message is just littered with inaccurate libel.STATicmessage me!
18:48, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
You reverted my at other pages where Dan pinged you; it will not be difficult to show that you meatpuppett for him at numerous pages, so stop being a bully. GabeMc(talk|contribs) 18:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
So why do u keep changing it back to your incorrect info?????? Its about Big Dric, that's why Stretch produced it, that's why Stretch says before his verse, " I love u forever my nigga" who would think Stretch would say that about some dude he never met, from the West Coast.... the goal here is correct info, and youre posting mis-info. {{{unsigned|Chronos12713}
1st I don't see any references or sources on your claim, 2nd in a Live Squad YouTube video a Live Squad member speaks on it 3rd it just makes more sense, cuz why would Stretch say I love u, etc and if it was a tribute to Johnny Is dude, wouldn't Johnny J have been the producer?
@Chronos12713: First sign all your posts on talk pages with four "~" markings as in: ~~~~. Second, it is not "my claim" I barley started watch listing the page last week, even though I have had the CD for years. I also do not see any producer credit in the article for Stretch. STATicmessage me! 03:34, 9 March 2014 (UTC)Chronos12713 (talk) 05:54, 9 March 2014 (UTC)ok sorry about the sign in thing I'm not very tech-savy... to follow up, on Stretch's wikipedia page it lists him as producer of the song... and I don't know how helpful the YouTube video would be but its called "Remembering Tupac stories from the Live Squad DVD, most of the vid is Stretch's brother Majesty, but within the first minute or two another member speaks on Big Dric, he gives an account of Pac's interaction with him and it even has some video footage of him
Akon
It's a bit of fun, you make it out like I've committed one of the most heinous acts a human can do, calm down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrettRickles (talk • contribs) 03:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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Biographies of living people in serious ways such as changing vital information such as their name or birthday without sources, you would quickly be blocked if you continued. STATicmessage me!
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FOX Animated Universe
I have started a discussion on the talk page for the FOX Animated Universe to keep it. You can find the discussion right here. Thanks and have a good day. - TreCoolGuy (talk) 09 March 2014 (UTC)
why you warning me
hey why are you wrning me??
there arealot of reference links in wikipedia then why areyou deleting my links?/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awais66 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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spamming many articles with links to this random website, that is why. STATicmessage me!
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Escape the Fate music genre edits
Hello, this is me, firehawksal19. I will try to comprehensive and open minded as I can. The reason why I changed the music genres in Escape the Fate's Wikipedia article is because their music sounds more than what the article described it as before I edited the page. Back then, before I had a Wikipedia account, I went on their page and not only were they listed as "Post-hardcore", "hard rock" and "emo", they were also listed as "Alternative metal" and "metalcore". I've listened to their music, and not only do I consider their music as post-hardcore, I also believe they are a heavy metal/alternative metal/metalcore band as well. I know it seems stupid, but that why I edited the page. Feel free to reply back to me if you need to.
@STATicVapor:, the issue with Reece must be fresh in your memory, was just gonna ask you that in the Indian film articles we have an exact same user refusing to come to terms with consensus when the whole 99.99% of the community is against him/her. The user is blatantly disrupting articles and removing sourced content. May I tempt you a penny for your thoughts? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 06:11, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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WP:ANI discussion that shows promise, then I would happily comment on it. STATicmessage me!
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Thanks, this is really going in a nasty direction and it seems the user is enjoying it. I really do not want this to blow up like the issue with Reece. :( —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 06:24, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Yeah I can understand that. However, now that everything is official and closed on that, I will be happy to no longer have to worry or comment on that user again. As I know you watch and edit Lady Gaga pages exponentially more than I do, if you see Reece editing any of them or any suspicious new accounts or IPs, let me know of them so I may report them to an administrator. Outside of any possible violations of their topic ban, I would prefer not discussing that user to avoid any scrutiny due to the interaction ban (yay no more harassment), which includes discussing the user. STATicmessage me! 06:33, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Yeah forget about that, come to the Magna Carta page. :) —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 06:46, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Question
How do you cite a source when you edit a page? — Preceding
Considering that the site has been in operation for over a decade, evolved from the original 1wrestling.com, and are staffed with guys whom once were employed in ECW, and have many sources within WWE, TNA, ROH, and across the indy lanscape, I would like to know how they are considered "unreliable"? They've even had Tod Gordon, Bruno Sammartino, Jim Cornette, and even Triple H on the site. And currently they have Mike "Nova/Simon Dean" Bucci and Paul London as occasional contributors. They are not tabloid writers, but reputable journalist with actual resumes in pro wrestling, and current contacts that include active performers and employees in the companies they report.
So, can you explain to me how they are unreliable when just about every story they break or report are 100% true? And in the even that they post erroneous information, they have the class to publicly apologize for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Risephoenixrise (talk • contribs) 22:06, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
@Risephoenixrise: I never once said in that discussion that they were unreliable, I believe you messaged the wrong person. STATicmessage me! 23:09, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I posted updates on the CM Punk entry, which were reverted with this reference:
@Risephoenixrise: I was referring to Wrestlezone and that PWinsider is only allowed to be used for noncontroversial things such as match results, not rumors or speculation. STATicmessage me! 03:01, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Again, your perception of that site are not reality. They are not in the business of rumors or speculation, they have posted legitimate news for over a decade--and even longer when they were staffed under Bob Ryder and Joey Styles's 1wrestling.com. They are a reliable source. If they weren't a reliable source, then why does Mike Bucci and Paul London contribute to their site? If they weren't a reliable source then why did Jim Cornette, Bruno Sammartino, and Triple H (yes, THAT Triple H) agree to do audio shoot interviews with the site? They have sources that they double and triple-check that are employed within WWE and TNA, and every organization they write a story on. The story that I posted of Punk's walkout was not a rumor whatsoever, as been proven in the weeks that preceeded it. The story actually happened, and the source was indeed a credible one because the events I described were 100% true. There was no rumor involved.
The only speculation that exists, with all due respect, is your speculation that their work is not legitimate news. They have resumes in the business and report NOTHING unless they have a story that can be double-sourced and has legs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Risephoenixrise (talk • contribs) 03:51, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Unreliable
just click on the song title, have you seen it
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RVD's time off
Dear STATic VaPor,
I would like to inform you of the Professional Wrestler Rob Van Dam and why he has taken 'time off' from World Wrestling Entertainment since 7th October 2013. Many superstars which perform in Professional Wrestling tend to take 'time off' every once in a while however their contracts are not terminated. Stipulations in their contracts provide them with limited amount of appearances over a certain time period, may it be over a month or a year. When companies like the WWE announce their superstars are taking 'time off' it usually means they are going to have vacation time or rehabilitate from an injury however the company informs the public of this through their official website and social media. After RVD lost to Alberto Del Rio at Battleground he had to take 'time off' due to his written contract he signed with the company. These stipulations have always been present in not only WWE but many other Professional Wrestling companies. For example, WWE Wrestler CM Punk has taken 'time off' although he still has a legal contract to the company. His still remains a WWE employee however he has taken upon himself to have his vacation now although it is very troublesome for the company with Wrestlemania 30, the biggest wrestling showcase on the planet set to take place a month from now.
The article itself details of RVD apparently having a dispute with the booking team and how he has been handled since returning to the company. However this is not the case and he confirms these reports of mistreatment are nonsense, which everyone believes they are. Referencing RVD's absence with WWE.com is not enough in depth news on his hiatus from the company for over 3 months. I have worked with a number of Professional Wrestling promotions such as SMASH, Chikara and Dragon Gate USA. Reviewing contracts of such popular talents as Yoshihiro Tajiri, Dave Finlay, Yoshihiro Asai and Masanori Murakawa. My knowledge of the Professional Wrestling business and how it works are of a very high standard and has been for many years.
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
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What's your problem?
He finished his edit 3 minutes before me and all he did was write background info. I had the infobox, album artwork, and tracklist all he did was jot down some information he got off a fan website after I had already previewed the page so there was an edit conflict from 3 little paragraphs he wrote. I'm tired of you undoing everything I do BlaccCrab (talk) 16:45, 11 March 2014 (UTC)contribs) 16:42, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh yeah, not to metion NONE of his work that he scibbled down in 5 minutes is still left on the page after more editors came in to improve the article while my tracklist/genres/introduction is still there. BlaccCrab (talk) 16:51, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
@BlaccCrab: Sorry for the misunderstanding, I was just about to message you and restore it. I was busy this morning and I did not look that into it. After my edit that other user came in and cleaned it up. I believe you do deserve credit for "creating the page". STATicmessage me! 16:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, and my apologies if I snapped a little. It's just I worked on making that for like an hour last night and it was my first album page lol BlaccCrab (talk) 17:03, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
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Is it Possible To Ask For Help
I found this article on a record producer that was marked for deletion. It said if I was going to work on it then I could. So I am working on it but you marked it for deletion again. Is it possible that we could work on it together. I found some things on this guy and he is really good. I mean from what I see he has done tons of work From the US to the UK and more. Just wondering if you could sort of help me out. I would love to have this article under my belt. I made a few small edits here and there but this one I spent time on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LennyPerez44 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
@STATicVapor: Thanks... that is a great explanation of what I need to find in order to complete an article on a record producer. I really appreciate that information.
XXSNUGGUMSXX: I actually thought the same thing, but I think it might be a bit too soon to say. If they continue editing articles such as Seth's, Mike Judge, Trey Parker, Neil Patrick Harris etc, then I would say definitely report them. On another note, thanks a lot for the Good Article review, I have been waiting on that one for a while. I really appreciate you taking the time to review it. STATicmessage me!
03:47, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
My pleasure. Let's wait for what else that IP does. What makes me really suspicious is the "2605" range that was previously proven to be Monterrosa sock IP.
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Exactly what I thought, but agree it's too early to say. He's getting a little more sly in how he edits as a sock. Looks like he now will test for a few days with IP edits and account edits to see if anyone's on to him. Then the edits occur more frequently if he thinks he's in the clear. -- Winkelvi ● ✉✓ 03:54, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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XXSNUGGUMSXX: @Winkelvi: Definitely has been attempting to be more slick with it. Yeah and once he edits more, then they get blocked. I do not know what sockmasters get out of wasting their time with stuff like this, it gets quite annoying after they do this for months on end.. STATicmessage me!
03:58, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
To think that only two months ago Monterrosa had a chance to edit freely after a week without wiki activity and completely wasted that chance by attempting to evade the one-week block, which grew into a three-week for one attempt of evasion and then indefinite for another. Not sure how much longer this will go on for if it hasn't already stopped. Winkelvi has been quite diligent in seeking out the numerous socks made since.....
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I know, evading that block was a huge mistake for them and yeah got to give credit to Winkelvi for weeding out all the socks this guy has made. STATicmessage me! 04:31, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Reading his article talk page comment, it's definitely him. -- Winkelvi ● ✉✓ 05:08, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Magna Carta Holy Grail for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of IndianBio -- IndianBio(talk
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Freaky Fortune
I have contested both your speedy deletion requests for Freaky Fortune and the other singer as representing a country at the worlds biggest music competition like Eurovision is instant notability. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 00:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
MC Guimê
relevant musician in Brazil.Dir3itista (talk) 02:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Disruptive editing?
OK, I'm not being disruptive by editing professional wrestling articles. Some of the stuff I can't find sources for. It's not like I'm trolling or anything, I'm actually adding useful information. So please quit spamming up my talk page. Thanks! Jgera5 (talk) 15:11, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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original research is disruptive, if you cannot find a reliable source for what you are adding, do not add it. Simple as that. I am not spamming anything, you are actually lucky I did not give you a final warning like you deserved. STATicmessage me!
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Rick Ross discography
You need to provide sources directly next to your peaks as the sources provided do not support your peaks. You should never tell editors go here or there for your inserted peaks. You should learn to follow wikipedia's policies once and for all. Your edit, by the way, removes my sources that I provided for the peaks in the table of Other Charted Songs.--Harout72 (talk) 17:21, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
@Harout72: No I have not, read the edit for once. I cited the source and you are not reading the damn citation that is there. I did not remove a single citation that you added. Go to the source I cited and click enter. Use CTRL-F if you must, but the peaks are all there. STATicmessage me! 17:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
It doesn't bring up any result when you type in Rick Ross and also the name of the songs, "In Vein", or "Nobody". It does, however, when only Rick Ross is typed in. I wish you could start pointing these details out properly, before blindly reverting the entire page to a version that removes other sources, that editors provide carefully. If the peaks you add are in the sources other the main sources already provided on the discography pages, then you need to provide those additional sources. Do not expect anyone to go fetch them for you. This is simple verifiability.--Harout72 (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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civil like usual and you just blindly revert more times when content was clearly cited here, yet you reverted again. STATicmessage me!
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Lel Brothas
Why were they deleted? They are a legitamate band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.171.5 (talk) 20:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I apologise. This is a school IP address, so occasionally things like this will happen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:630:34:0:0:0:0:100 (talk) 14:59, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Juelz Santana
What source do you have that states that Juelz Santana was born in 1982? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dodge1991 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
In regards to this, I think instead of reverting immediately when you see something added by a usually reliable editor, you need to see if it checks out. Just my two cents.
WP:V, all content must be backed by a reliable source when added the first time. I was offline for a few hours and there were almost 50 new edits on the page, including some by multiple editors that frequently add false or unsourced content (no need to list them), so I had no idea who had added it. I just noticed that new addition. Sorry for the confusion. STATicmessage me!
05:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Shield as faces
Honestly, I've already read some reliable sources saying they've turned babyface and can add them any time. If you read the SD spoilers today, it looks like they're really going the babyface route. Ugh, but I still wish everyone could wait and see until the next Raw for more "confirmed" long-term storyline progression. Do you have any ideas on what the next subsection / chapter of their story should be? I don't want it to be called "face turn" LOL. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 03:02, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
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WP:OR and speculation, I revert so someone can actually add/write it decently, rather than ruin the quality of the articles. Like seriously, they make one motion to the crowd and everyone wants to run to call them faces. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not some random wrestling forum. If that is actually the way the story line is going, of course I know you can summarize the events just as good as anyone without adding any speculation. Maybe we should change the name of the section entirely, since it looks like the decided against breaking them up for the time being. Seems like we should merge the first two paragraphs in the previous subsection and then the last paragraph could be a new section titled "Feud with The Wyatts" or something to that degree, just until we see if they leave The Authorty (which could then be a part of the section header) rather then including face or heel changes in the section headers. Also if you do plan to do this, the sections also need years attached to them on The Shield's article. On another note, looks like we got a good result at Justin Bieber, sorry for not commenting further, but it looks like the result was more then decent, much better than I expected. STATicmessage me!
03:16, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't even disagree much with your reverts, because it's often that the newer users or the IPs will just add information that is a) poorly written / too elaborate or b) more importantly, poorly sourced. Seriously, am I the only editor adding decent (and sometimes concise) material to the career sections of Bryan, Shield, Ambrose, Rollins, Wyatt Family, Wyatt etc? I'm going to go through Cesaro soon.
I don't watch every minute of WWE content either, there's just too much. I now only watch about 25% and read on the reliable sources (Torch) to keep up. I think that "Cracks in the Shield" should definitely remain. Everything currently in the article (which is up to Rollins' abandonment during Shield Wyatts II) was geared towards a Shield breakup. It was on the next SmackDown that WWE did an 180, had the Shield held a "summit", reunited, now they've turned on Kane, like what? So there needs to be a new sub-section created, unless it turns out that WWE has been trolling us and Shield ends up breaking up at Mania somehow.
If we start a new sub-section, all the sections are roughly quite equal in length, no need to change the previous ones. Sorry I don't like the idea of the years' being added back because it's going to be (2012-2013) (2013) (2013) (2013-2014) and (2014-present). Unfortunately (or fortunately) with the Shield there was so much storytelling and content within a "short time".
Bieber's article is fine, but I don't know what Moxy is trying to do now. Maybe you could offer a third opinion once Moxy comments again on the talk page.starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 03:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
@Starship.paint: At least Antonio Cesaro's is somewhat decently written, which I am happy about since he is one of the few wrestlers I can enjoy every single match from and the IPs have gave up with the Cesaro games. I am not sure what the point in dropping the first name was anyways.
Due to me losing interest in the current product (I think PG finally got to me), I stopped even paying attention to the news sites. Watchlisting the PPVs and the List of WWE personnel page is about the only updates I get now adays. I do not have a major problem with Cracks in the Shield (if that was your idea, I always thought it was brilliant), just that now we need to decide how important it is to their history now that WWE pulled a TNA and decided to change the storyline on a dime. It all depends just how the next few weeks leading up to Wrestlemania turn out. It does seem like something else needs to be included in the header though now with the recent events.
I did not realize that, I just am so used to it, it seemed quite awkward to look at, I forgot they had only been around for since the Punk title reign.
I think Moxy is just a much older user than us and he wants more book, encyclopedia, or other physical references, which we know are hard to come by now adays, especially as it relates to recent pop culture events. Seems like he was just looking for more to complain about and the repeated "children" comments are uncalled for. So yeah if that thread continues sure I will comment in it. STATicmessage me! 03:45, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, the current product really does suck. There's nothing worth investing in below the main-event level other than the Shield. The mid-card is non-existent, even Big E fell victim to the start-stop push treatment. Look at how the Rhodes brothers dropped off a cliff after losing the tag titles. Back when the secondary titles meant something, there were storylines at every level of the card. Even sadder is that TNA can't offer a better alternative, instead they've copied WWE with a shitty authority figure (Dixie) and paper champion (Magnus) storyline. If you thought Orton was bad, do you know Magnus needed seven or eight wrestlers to interfere in his title match to retain his title? I also read that ROH is just "movez". That's why NXT is the place to be (LOL), but reading the spoilers for the next month it's not looking good either. Back to japanese Dragon Gate maybe.
I'm not ashamed to admit that I've never added a single book, encyclopedia or physical reference to Wikipedia ever, nor do I think that it's a crime. Those physical references are technically not verifiable, right? Anything covered by the mainstream press (Associated Press / Reuters) or magazines such as TIME is definitely fair game for me for Bieber's article. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 04:06, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
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El Generico
probably wont have any success on main roster even though he was one of my favorite indie wrestlers. No BRAAAINNNBUSSSTAAAAAHHHH to the apron in the PG era :(
Yeah me either, and it is not at all. I am just explaining that that is how many older editors are on here, usually the ones not involved in more popular or entertainment subjects. I always preferred online references for that reason, that way anyone can verify it at any moment. STATicmessage me! 04:54, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
An argument could be made that Bryan is a star which was built up by WM XXX. An opposing argument could be made that Bryan became a star by himself in spite of WWE's bad booking. The Shield are almost stars but they've got no good build up at all. Regarding the mid-card titles... erm, I don't think Ziggler's and Bryan's reigns were exactly top-notch. But they were still good, because they produced moments like Ryder beating Ziggler for the US title and Bryan beating Miz for the US title. The IC title hasn't seen any prestige since 2009 IMO (Rey vs JoMo!), even with the white belt and all. On TNA, I wouldn't look down on Magnus so much. After all, TNA should focus on breeding new talent and new top stars. Magnus certainly fits the description, it's the booking that has killed him; meanwhile Styles is probably too old and small. On NXT, I don't think releasing Hero was a very bad decision, read some forums where people that he wasn't showing his full potential from his indy days. He sure as hell wasn't impressing me like Sami Zayn is doing now (and I never watched Generico). I think WWE can see it in Zayn, he won two matches in his debut over two main roster members! His natural likeability from his promos is all too apparent. At the very least he's Kofi Kingston, and that's honestly no bad thing. Good lord his signature moves are off the charts already for his size, and it seems that he's apparently using a lot of his moveset from his indy days? Although yeah, he could do with a better finisher, but it doesn't need to be a BRAAAINNNBUSSSTAAAAAHHHH. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 13:25, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
@Starship.paint: Oh yes Bryan is definitly being built up as a star and if he wins the championship at WM it will definitely be his star making moment, similar in way the built up Benoit leading up to WMXX. Yeah and 180 storylines never seem to go good at all. Hell yeah JoMo, so surprised he has yet to return, but he is probably doing yoga on golden tiger as we speak. Yeah I understand exactully why the would not sign Styles, just sort of sad he had such talent, yet never got to perform in WWE, at least for any decent amount of time. Really? Well I loved Hero's indie work and did not pay attention to his NXT time that much, but at least he was one of the few in the earlier promotion days that actually could work the mike, Bo Dallas anyone? Oh damn you need to definitely watch his indie work, or at least some of the crazy things he has done. To be honest I have only watched a single match of him as Zayn, got any links to good matches? STATicmessage me! 17:51, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
You can probably tell I'm a huge JoMo fan, but I don't think he'll ever return. He's 34 already, and if there's only one world title he's not getting it, because of his horrible mic skills. Bo Dallas was 1/10 as a face but have you watched him since he's turned into an oblivious, smarmy heel who thinks he's being cheered? I think he's 7.5/10 as a heel, because that actually masks his poor mic work and average ring ability, and it's funny to see him addressing Zayn as "green" and "kid" when that's exactly what he is. He was/is the most hated heel on the NXT roster... but it might not work on the main roster without a proper journey for his character (see Emma).
You need to watch a lot of Zayn matches, versus Cesaro I, II, III (2/3 falls) and IV (arrival) have to be watched in order because each builds upon the last. Other than that, there's versus Neville, versus Swagger and versus Bo. Alternatively, use with caution, I didn't watch from this and there might be viruses. Lastly, I'm definitely being outnumbered by the (BLP?) regulars of the Bieber article, but maybe try Bieber's talk page first.
Eureka! I've thought of a new sub-section title for the Shield based on the SD spoilers that they are feuding with Kane and the New Age Outlaws. Rebellion against authority !!! That WM six-tag is gonna suck though. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 08:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
@Starship.paint: Yep, JoMo will not be coming back, its way past his time. Sad I thought his mic skills were getting better when he left. Yeah I will definitely have to watch those Zayn matches, especially against Neville/PAC, you also have to look up Neville/PAC's indie matches if you have not seen them, I hope they are not restricting his move set in NXT. When I get back home today I will try to remember to swing by the Bieber page.
Hell yeah, great subheading idea, sounds awesome. Hahaha, well it would not be Wrestlemania without a random six man tag thrown together three weeks before the event. STATicmessage me! 15:32, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
NVL/ZYN if you haven't caught it already. I've seen quite a few of PAC's matches in Dragon Gate. Unfortunately, he is being restricted in NXT. Other than his finisher (corkscrew shooting star press) and the no-handed over the top rope corkscrew plancha, he's not really doing much aerial moves during matches. It's unfortunate that I'm saying that Zayn is more exciting in the ring than Neville, and I didn't watch Generico. The best Neville matches have been when he could display his real moveset (like against Cesaro!) Lastly sorry to bother again, know you're busy on Wiki with other articles but I really need a "third" opinion over at the talk page of Bieber's article. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 00:45, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Mania
My bad, it appeared to be someone adding the info, not filling out the ref. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrestlinglover (talk • contribs)
@Wrestlinglover: No worries, I was originally gonna revert it too until I looked at it more closely. STATicmessage me! 04:12, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello STATIcVaPor.
I am new to editing in Wikipedia, but I've been using it for years.
I had been wanting the information on who the dancers were in Pharrell's video, but had a hard time finding them.
Once I realized it was in a tiny link on the 24hoursofhappy.com page, I decided to paste the names into Wikipedia for people like me who just wanted a quick list. (And inspired enough to sign up and make my first edit in Wikipedia.)
Recently, I updated an article for the "Spoils of Babylon" because I was one of three producers missing from the article. You removed it because it did not have a citation. I didn't include the citation because the imdb.com listing includes our information and was mentioned already in the article, as well as each of us is listed at the beginning of all six episodes. In addition, several other producers did not have citations. Why do we need a citation and the other folks don't? I'm very curious! :)
JB
Creampopp (talk) 16:13, 20 March 2014 (UTC) 03/20/14
@Creampopp: I was going to say go ahead and add it, but I see you already have. This needs to be stated in the edit summary so we know it is not just some random person trying to add them and their friend's names in the infobox. For future reference IMDb is not a reliable source. STATicmessage me! 20:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Kanye
Since your Yeezus nom passed, the set is complete and I hope you don't mind
@Igordebraga: Awesome, looks good. I will be watch listing to see what happens. STATicmessage me! 03:30, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
lil wayne removal
you haven't proven rebirth is a rock album,nor have you proven he played guitar on it.also,you have no proof he formed the hot boys.so,i will continue to remove them unless YOU give ME a valid reason to keep them there.if you block me from editing,i'll only start another account. Smokiewight (talk) 05:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Not Like Them (NLT Album) Deletion
Hello, I am wondering if you could further explain to me why you deleted this article. It says it lacked its own evidence/information. However, I did take information from different sources. If you could please explain why you deleted the entire page instead of adding more information and sources of information or give me a notice before the deletion of the entire article, that would be much appreciated.Zhamese22 (talk) 18:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Gotcha, but if you have listened to any of his new songs with the Ragga Twins its in every way reggae and he has admitted in a Rolling Stones interview "I want the first song to be the brostepiest song in the album" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billybob5185 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, but its a genre he works with as often as his electronic work. So thus its a genre that should be in the info box Billybob5185 (talk) 21:16, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
shield face turn
Have you watched Smackdown? They were assaulted by various heels, which clearly confirms their face turn. Apart from that, the source that i listed explains it as well.Ironcan (talk) 15:52, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
What do you think?Ironcan (talk) 16:16, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
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WP:SYNTH to me. See the talk page, and wait till the story unfolds until we make any forgone conclusions. Also not to mention, using jargon such as heel and face is discouraged against. STATicmessage me!
16:34, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Are You Experienced edit war
Hi. I noticed your revert. I've had to protect the article because of the edit war which your edit was a part of. Instead of edit-warring at a recently promoted Featured article, could you contribute to the ongoing discussion at Talk:Are You Experienced? I especially don't want you to resume the edit war when the protection expires tomorrow. Thanks, --John (talk) 23:35, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
@John: Since when is a single revert, restoring sourced content that was removed without a valid reason edit warring? A single revert is not edit warring in any way shape or form, especially when the consensus is to list it. The user I reverted needs to be looked into, looks like a sock/meatpuppet to me. Why would they not edit for over a month and then their first edit is to revert Dan56 in the same manner Gabe was? Then an anon IP reverts me, which is obviously one of the two users. Also why has that version of the article been protected? The challenged content should be restored to the version before the bold change, which would be [29]. STATicmessage me! 23:45, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Knowingly taking part in an edit war that an admin has been asked to look into is not smart. Your concerns about the other editor are already being addressed. Your views about the wrong version are noted. When that article comes off protection, I will give one warning and then block for further edit-warring, even if it is only one revert, whether that is User:GabeMc, User:Dan56, User:AstroMan67, yourself or anyone else. You three have already been warned and will get no further warning. So don't do it, please. Instead, please take your arguments to the talk page. --John (talk) 23:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
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WP:BRD, it should be kept at the version before the bold edit was made. STATicmessage me!
00:40, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Party Girls
I thought that was the producer singing that hook because it didn't sound like Jeremih. I guess that's why I completely forgot him in the features lol. Thanks for fixing that up — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlaccCrab (talk • contribs) 21:09, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
@BlaccCrab: You're welcome bro, no problem. And yeah I believe it is Jeremih and the producer on the hook. STATicmessage me! 21:51, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Formal mediation has been requested
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guide to formal mediation
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Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you.
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multiple images}} which is a much cleaner way to do it. Oh by the way, NOM, but the GA reviewer might not be aware of the MOS at all, seeing the review itself. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat
] 14:02, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
@IndianBio: Okay, I will address that issue shortly, thanks. STATicmessage me! 00:33, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
read pls
Please stop deleting shit, I knew Courtney (capital steez)growing up, although people refer to him as jamal, that is wrong, I don't have a resource because I couldn't find one, please stop with this disrespectfulness and leave it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalik10 (talk • contribs)
Those are festival dates, not a part of the Yeezus tour. If they are, it needs a reliable third party source to confirm it. According to all the sources that reported the European dates, they end on July 2. STATicmessage me! 07:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
So we have a wise guy ey? Well let me tell you something sir, it is not known to me that while on a tour in Europe and artist will come to England to play two dates only on a completely different tour just two days after the previous tour. Maybe avenged sevenfold have, but even then it had public notice and there is still a large gap between the Shepard of fire and hail to the king tour. I bid you base! Once in a while try using common sense rather then 'third party' information to make judgements — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuriboh500 (talk • contribs) 08:50, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
@Kuriboh500: I never said it was a different tour. They are two festival dates, completely unrelated to the tour. Kanye performed a set at the Odd Future carnival too, is that also a part of the tour? No. STATicmessage me! 15:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes you are right, because that was a surprise appearance he wasn't actually playing. These are festival headline slots where he will be bringing his full show. So they count.
@Kuriboh500: And your reliable source for that is? Also please keep commenting in this section and don't make a new one every post. STATicmessage me! 21:36, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Mariah Carey
Hey STATic, have you seen the edits of Petergriffin9901 (talk·contribs)? They seem too familiar with someone I don't want to take name (hint) and his borderline personal attacking me at the article and at my talk page, removing warning templates as well as breaking 3RR on the article. Would you mind to take a look while I keep a report handy? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 08:57, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Please start reacting like an adult. I know all these editors for years. There is no edit-war. There is your failure to communicate properly and your incessant need to be obnoxious and post rubbish on my page and reverting information. Be on your merry way.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:02, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Well, that's just gross then if you behave to new editors and editors you haven't interracted with in that way.
Move on mate. This is indeed obnoxious behaviour. Our disagreement on sourcing was solved so get on with it. Be on your merry way. Cheerio dahling.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:14, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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WP:EWN report. Not sure what this whole situation is as I am not involved with Mariah Carey pages, but I hope you two can solve this problem, and attempt to discuss a bit more civilly. ANI seems to be too much at this point, if it continues and turns into long-term abuse, then yes that would be the place to go. STATicmessage me!
16:19, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey STATic, that's fine. The user stopped edit warring and reverted himself/herself so yeah, no need to make the report I guess. I did raise a concern in ANI, but yeah better to forget such atrocity and move on with our own work. So how is it hanging at your end? Do you go to any music tours? :) —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 16:27, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
@IndianBio: Pretty good my man, I have not been to one in awhile, but hopefully I will beg going to some once my whip is out of the mechanic. I have a job interview next week too, so if I get that I probably wont be on here much anymore :o. How about you? STATicmessage me! 16:58, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Yeezus
I will refrain from doing so only to annoy you. Also my source for proving that it will be a full set is this setlist of one of last years wirless headlines, Justin Timberlake with Jay Z. http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/justin-timberlake-featuring-jay-z/2013/queen-elizabeth-olympic-park-london-england-bc6bd6e.html As you will see it is a good 38 songs long, if you do not think that this is reliable then go on YouTube and watch every individual song. 38 songs is quite a hefty amount, so I very much doubt Kanye will just come on play two songs and exit.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuriboh500 (talk • contribs)
Then do not expect any more responses from me, and
Why delete the entire section? I'll make relevant edits, again... If you delete it... Again, I would like a justified response— Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.149.147.128 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 28 March 2014
You are blatantly slandering the company and not editing in a
WP:NPOV. Some of the sources you cited do not mention Kik at all, and the others do not state what you are saying in the article at all. STATicmessage me!
03:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for the talk page stalking, STATicVapor. As far as I can tell, STATicVapor (talk) DID justify the edit. Try redoing your edit, 110.149.147.128 (talk), and only include information covered by the cited source. The entire edit is what is scrutinized, not the constituent parts. Just do it over, being careful to leave out anything that your sources do not cover, that would seem (to me) to be a fair compromise for the both of you. —Josh3580talk/hist 03:15, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Request for mediation/Yeezus
Would you be able to signify your agreement (or not) to this mediation case here? Thanks. Sunray (talk) 00:05, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
@Sunray: The content dispute was discussed and concluded at the Yeezus talk page. I never had any intention to participate in the mediation case, which I found quite unnecessary. I would have signified this on that page, but I did not know how. STATicmessage me! 00:53, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I will copy your comment to that page—which is edited like any other. Sunray (talk) 16:54, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Well yeah I would assume so, I just did not know what section to comment in, it was my first time ever being invited to a RfM. STATicmessage me! 17:07, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
No problem. The important thing is that the dispute has settled down and some learning potentially took place :) Sunray (talk) 20:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Thug Cry
Greetings Static, first and foremost, I must thank your for your contributions to the Mastermind album. My favorite record on the album is "Thug Cry". I hope you're able to create an article for the song. "Still lemon pepper on my Motherfuckin wings" lol. That's my favorite line. versace1608 (talk) 15:54, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
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In Vein" maybe coming soon if I have time... In case you did not know "Thug Cry" is being released as the next single on April 1, so either way I am sure someone will get around to creating it soon. If you do create it, I would be glad to help with or fine tune it in anyway I could. STATicmessage me!
17:05, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I will probably wait till someone creates it. versace1608 (talk) 17:22, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
"Citation needed" removal
I'm a little confused as to why you removed my edit[[30]] with the reason being "good faith". My reason for adding "Citation needed" was not to dispute the claims but to improve the quality of the article in order to give it more credibility. If I had wanted to to dispute the claims I would have flagged them "Dubious".
I am struggling however to find a reference to prove the claim that "He has six number 1 albums on the Billboard 200, tying him with Eminem and Kanye West for 2nd all time among rappers". The official Billboard only shows three number 1 albums:
http://www.billboard.com/artist/276998/nas/chart?f=305
Please either add a credible reference or correct the article.
You ask that anyone leaving a message here "should enter with an open mind". I hope that you will do the same and not just remove edits that add value or have good intentions in future.
@201.216.19.70: Generally the lead should not contain references, the content should be mentioned and cited within the article body, which at least the MTV list was. STATicmessage me! 06:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Artpop again, yes I know
STATic would you mind putting your dollah here? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 04:05, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Album's certifications
Hello Static. I noticed this editor's
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Вик Ретлхед: I also have noticed them... It appears that some check out [31][32][33][34], but others do not like this. I guess we will just have to monitor them, and if they keep adding incorrect ones/ones not in the database, then explain to them on their talk page that the certifications must match the database. STATicmessage me!
15:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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