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Additions to George H. Chirgwin
Made a few small updates today, plus added WikiProjcts to the Talk page; hope you like them! MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
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I dont know how to spell that.
Thank you for my message, I cannot spell it, I will be careful next time. User:NoseyFruitcake3 —Preceding undated comment added 18:59, 22 April 2012 (UTC).
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"facts entered. Do not delete unless you can disprove that these are false!"
Hi, I'm impressed that you were able to find a meaning in that amazing statement! Just wanted to mention that I came across this while chasing the source of a copyright violation that dates from 2007 (now fixed), so I won't follow up with the perp. It's good to know that the two of us working on that page aren't alone in trying to untangle some of the works of that mind. Nadiatalent (talk) 13:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Caddy (disambiguation) cleanup
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You removed the {{Disambiguation cleanup}} tag from Caddy (disambiguation) indicating "no justification provided for need for clean-up". Per the documentation for the template, I provided a resaon for the cleanup in my edit summary. The article does have entries which are duvious, and has excess linking which is in contravention of the manual of style which specifies one blue link for entry. -- Whpq (talk) 19:55, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've just done a cleanup on that page.
I'd guess your impressively extensive editing has run mostly to articles, and it of course it would be bizarre not to expect such experience to give one the right instincts about editing Dab pages & abt critiquing them (or other's tags on them); it is especially attractive in light of Dab pages almost always residing in the main namespace (usually called "the Article namespace"). Nevertheless, Dabs are not articles, and almost everything about their care and feeding is atMoSDab) probably provides the gentlest starting point. Also, if you would like, let's give a shot to my trying to answer your questions about why i chose such-and-such a change, in my cleanup of Caddy (disambiguation).]
In any case, thanks for taking an interest in at least that particular Dab.
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Tin tabernacle
Thanks for tidying this. I'm going to revert the headers in references though, as a result of the "I noticed" thread here,
The editor whom you asked to slow down
I noticed your comment on the relevant talk page and that editor's reply to you. Looking at the pattern of rapid fire editing and the pedantic, nay punctilious, nature of the edits leads me to wonder if the editor might be positioned somewhere
- Thanks. I strongly suspect the same which is why I tried to be gentle. I'm afraid he will run into one of the more aggressive editors soon. Best Wishes S a g a C i t y (talk) 07:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am sure he will. Odd that we both assume the editor to be male, but the behaviour does appear to be. It may be that the message requires a further reinforcement. I am also wondering, since he has obvious WP knowledge and skills from the get go, whether this is a sock. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 07:33, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fingers crossed. You may already have popped over to look, but we might have got through, eventually, looking at edit patterns. Or not, I suppose. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 14:22, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
- We can only hope so. This editor clearly has a lot of time and energy, it would be nice to see it channelled usefully. S a g a C i t y (talk) 14:26, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps you would also keep an eye out. I hate it when people go off at a tangent instead of doing the really good work we know they can do Fiddle Faddle (talk) 14:32, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
- We can only hope so. This editor clearly has a lot of time and energy, it would be nice to see it channelled usefully. S a g a C i t y (talk) 14:26, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
South Durham and Lancashire Union Railway
Hi, why did you mark South Durham and Lancashire Union Railway as orphan? --Redrose64 (talk) 22:18, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- It was an error! Now undone. Best Wishes S a g a C i t y (talk) 09:08, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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- Following on from that: the edit concerned is this one, where you did a lot more than simply removing a hatnote as claimed by the edit summary. You introduced a lot of deprecated or even obsolete wiki markup, such as linked dates and years; the
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interlanguage links. Was this a script-assisted edit? If so, the script is seriously in need of an upgrade. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:08, 31 October 2012 (UTC)]- I think I worked it out... you seem to have reverted all the way back to the version of 13:33, 10 August 2007 - more than five years ago. I have restored the version of 19:47, 29 October 2012. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:26, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! I had a quick look, meant to return to the problem and then forgot. Your intervention is much appreciated. Best Wishes S a g a C i t y (talk) 10:21, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
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I wasn't sure what to do with this when I was cleaning up the page, so I dumped it on the disambiguation page. Definitely the wrong place to put it, and I apologize. But even if it doesn't belong there, it doesn't seem like deleting it entirely is a very responsible thing to do. Now information on this subject with this meaning does not appear anywhere in Wikipedia. So I am dumping it again, this time on your talk page.
- It is also a safe breaking (safe cracking) tool from the Victorian era, consisting of a heavy brass stock with two sets of barrels, the large one on top and the small one below. The device was clamped to the frame of the safe's door. A large steel screw would then be driven into the safe's lock, or between the safe's door and its frame. Either the frame buckled or the lock failed as the pressure exerted by the device was reputedly up-to three tons.
Thank you for your understanding. DAVilla (talk) 18:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- It is a dictionary definition and as such belongs in Wiktionary - which is why I added a link to wiktionary. I'll try to find sufficient citations to get it in there but have to say that Wiktionary has very strict entry criteria so it may not be possible. Do you know of any citations that would help? If so add them here. I must confess I've never heard of the term used in the sense given. Best Wishes S a g a C i t y (talk) 19:51, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for doing the leg work. It sounds like it doesn't deserve its own page, which is something else I had wondered.
- I'm much more active on Wiktionary than here. Add the information you have to Wiktionary:Citations:jack-in-the-box and I'll format it and add a definition. DAVilla (talk) 16:15, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
- It is a dictionary definition and as such belongs in Wiktionary - which is why I added a link to wiktionary. I'll try to find sufficient citations to get it in there but have to say that Wiktionary has very strict entry criteria so it may not be possible. Do you know of any citations that would help? If so add them here. I must confess I've never heard of the term used in the sense given. Best Wishes S a g a C i t y (talk) 19:51, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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Greetings, I just noticed this edit of yours. Unfotunately, this edit caused this edit. While life peerages were introduced in 1958, Law life peerages were introduced in 1876, so I reverted both edits. Thank you.--
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In this edit in 2007 you added several place names, including Bridge Field. An article has now been created, but it's only a stub and there's not enough information to identify its location. I've tried maps and search engines and could only find a business and a similarly named farm in different parts of Cumbria. Do you have a source for the list? Peter James (talk) 14:44, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- The source for the list is http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/uk/england/county/cumbria/index.htm - however I don't recommend it! I was using it to flesh out county lists but it has too many places that have little or no other information available. Possibly because of the nature of its geography Cumbria was the hardest of the 3 or 4 counties I tried to use it for, before abandoning the exercise. I tried to omit places that had no other Wikipedia presence; but either Bridge Field was an error on my part or its substantiating other link has been deleted. S a g a C i t y (talk) 15:26, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
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Misinformation on bafta best actress article
Hi..i've noticed you had made substantial edits to the Bafta best actor article, so i'm drawing your attention to the shambles that is the BAFTA Award for Best Actress in a Leading Role article. The user HesioneHushabye (talkpage here talk) has persisted in providing false information about the award; the user has ignored the fact there were TWO categories (Best British Actress, Best Foreign Actress) from 1952 to 1967, has ommitted Best British Actress (not only is that wrong, but the reason; "the award is defunct".....errr...so is "Best Foreign Actress", which he not only kept in, but put it among the "Best Actress" award which was created in 1968 when both British and Foreign awards were merged). I restored the correct information that existed on the page prior to his arbitrary intervention. I assumed good faith edits at the beginning and explained the best actress article should provide the same correct information that the BAFTA Award for Best Actor in a Leading Role does. The user has arbitrarily made up his own category (best foreign actress as being "best actress") ignoring the official Bafta site itself which I provided. An awards table is not up for discussion, it's black and white; arbitrarily deciding personal criteria (which is what the user has done) has no place on an awards table. — Chie one (talk) 06:35, 11 Jan 2014 The user above wishes to make mere cosmetic changes to the page that are not needed, all of this is clearly explained at the top of the page and has been the same format with no other editors having problems with it for a long time. The user above is mis-interpreting the history of the awards and the information on the page. The nominees and winners for "Best British Actress" are indeed listed, on their own separate page. The page does not have to mirror the Best Actor page. HesioneHushabye (talk) 05:52, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Err.. why not have "Best Foreign Actress" on it's own "separate page"?. As I said, an awards table is not up for discussion, it's black and white; arbitrarily deciding personal criteria (which is what the user has done) has no place on an awards table. The page was unchanged for years and provided the same correct information as Bafta for best actor did...until the users arbitrary intervention. To have Best foreign actress (which is also defunct by the way) alongside best actress is wrong. Bafta's official site or a wiki user making up their own criteria? hmmm. The Best actor page has it correct, there is no misinformation or made up criteria. — Chie one (talk) 07:10, 11 Jan 2014
Your reasoning makes no sense. it's purely cosmetic. Having them separate makes the page cleaner and less confusing and it's all outlined at the top of the page. The information on the BAFTA site and what's on the page are infact the same. Your whining about the pages being separate is silly and no other users or editors have complained since I created the new pages and tables a long time ago. HesioneHushabye (talk) 07:28, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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Reflist presentation
Hello Saga City. I can't see how the change you made in this edit has manifested in the article; could you illuminate? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:33, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- On my screen it split the list of references into 3 columns rather than 1. However, as I understand it, the effect depends on the size of the font, the width of the screen and any picture so it is thus preferable to the cruder Reflist|2 or Reflist|3 that forces the number of columns. As I'm no techie this is the best answer I can give, but hope it clarifies things. S a g a C i t y (talk) 08:33, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Following this up - I've been 'playing' with font sizes on the Yetminster page. Increasing the size of the font reduces the number of columns; unsurprisingly reducing the size of the font increases the number of columns. So it seems I was right. S a g a C i t y (talk) 08:44, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Both versions look the same on my screen with my preferences (actually I've never altered my preferences, so they must be on a default setting). Presumably when more refs are added in that article, at some point the list will split on my screen too, even if I don't change font size... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 09:02, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
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If you look at the hundred of Kilmersdon, you'll see it includes Buckland Dinham. But West Buckland is 50 miles away on the other side of Somerset and is not related to Buckland Dinham at all. The source you've reinstated actually says that West Buckland is in Kingsbury hundred. I'm reverting your reversion. Johnlp (talk) 09:31, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
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