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You closed the AFD on Olympia Nelson. Well, both the nominator, and one of the two delete voters were wikihounding me, when the AFD was underway. Both nominator World's Lamest Critic (WLC) and CommotioCerebri (CC) earned indefinite blocks for their disruptive behaviors a few months later.

CC has used over 6 dozen IP addresses to evade their indefinite block in order to disrupt my contributions. WLC spends a lot of energy wikihounding my contributions on the commons. Their most recent block evasion can be found here.

I think I do a pretty good job of assuming good faith, or giving the appearance I am still able to assume good faith, in the face of fierce temptation to do the opposite. But I think my obligation to assume good faith ends when someone has earned an indefinite block for bad faith disruption.

Therefore, I will say I think WLC's nomination of Olympia Nelson, and CC's endorsement of WLC's nomination were not sincere, good faith opinions. These two individuals were not putting the best interests of the wikipedia first. I believe both these individuals showed a long history of disrupting my contributions due to malice and bad faith.

As an administrator who closes AFD, you have to count on participants leaving comments based in good faith. Are there circumstances where you think a history of proven bad faith is a sufficient justification to overturn an AFD? Geo Swan (talk) 16:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

• P.S. Re-reading the AFD I see I didn't start this article, after all. I think I did a lot of work to improve it. I believe that both WLC and CC did nominate articles I started for bad faith reasons. Geo Swan (talk) 17:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

@Geo Swan: Not really, no. When closing an AfD, I'm interested in whether or not the person in question made a sound, policy-based argument. I can't read minds. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:25, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

• Sorry, you seem to have misunderstood me, I was not questioning your initial judgement. Of course you are not a mind-reader, and had no way, then, of knowing that those individuals could not be trusted to operate in good faith.

I request userification, talk page too, please.

Thanks!  Geo Swan (talk) 03:47, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Afraid not. A substantial part of the concerns raised during the discussion were BLP based. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:18, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

• I requested userification at DRV. Geo Swan (talk) 18:01, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Seraphimblade. I am editing Wikipedia on Tencent Research Institute as my study assignment for this semester. I found that the draft page has been deleted by you on the grounds that there are unambiguous advertising or promotion. Could you tell me that there is a problem with the specific section, and help me improve that, I need to complete the assignment as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen L 2019 (talk • contribs)

reliable sources, and the organization itself should only be relied upon to a very limited degree. Most of the support should come from sources unaffiliated with the organization. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

14:02, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade, Thanks for your suggestion, I will try to improve the language as much as possible. But regarding the content of the report, since we were asked to edit more than 2,000 words, If I describe the report briefly, the number of articles will not meet the requirements. I have searched a lot of information about this organization, most of them about these reports. About the article was deleted, my tutor suggested that I need to modify the relevant sentences and meet the neutrality requirements.

web hosting for school projects. If the parameters of your assignment are incompatible with writing an appropriate encyclopedia article, you will need to do your assignment somewhere other than on Wikipedia. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

15:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade, My idea is to show the research results of this organization as much as possible in the research report section. Therefore, I introduce the contents of the research report in the report and research section. Since the report content is very large, I have used as few sentences as possible to describes the content of these reports.

Then, if that's the best you can do, it sounds like your assignment is incompatible with Wikipedia and you'll need to put it elsewhere instead. Again, Wikipedia is not a free webhost. If you need somewhere to store your school projects besides locally, there are many free and low-cost cloud providers available to do that (some of the resources

here might work), but this is not the place. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

15:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade,Our assignment is to write articles for Wikipedia, so we need to publish them on Wikipedia. If I can solve the problem of unambiguous advertising or promotion, can I publish the article?

Stephen L 2019, I'm a bit concerned if your class specifically involves editing Wikipedia, as it does not seem that it at all familiarized you with what the expectations would be while doing that. Being free of promotion is one requirement for an article, but it is far from the only one. Do you know if your class or instructor worked with the assistance of the education program? Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 17:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade, Sorry, I am not sure about that. If I need to publish this article, do you have any good suggestions for my article?

I have already said what you will need to do. You will need to write something entirely in keeping with Wikipedia policies, including using reliable sources, writing

neutrally, and avoiding excess detail. That is, and will remain, the answer. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

17:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

5. The software is the only available software for nonlinear semidefinite programming - so if researchers is looking for a software to solve their problems, they should be able to find this information on Wikipedia

6. The PEN* software has been around for almost 20 years, it's being used by hundreds of mostly academic researchers, has hundreds of citations in scientific journals; I believe it deserves a Wiki page with a basic information (just like all the software in my point 2.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkocvara (talk • contribs)

neutral while writing about a subject one is close to or has an interest in. Probably best to leave that to someone not involved. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

18:05, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade, thanks for your reply. OK, I understand that you (Wikipedia) don't like when authors of software write about their products, even if it's supported by hundreds of (independent) citations. However, I would like to argue (for the sake of generality) that articles published in reviewed international scientific journals are

independent sources, as they had to go through the scrutiny of the refereeing and editorial process. These are not self-published websites. Other reliable sources are, of course, the citations of the software in other articles by other authors ("our problem was solved by software xxx") such as https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?oi=bibs&hl=en&cites=8363910107581940526

. But these, however independent, do not give much information about the software itself (algorithm used, what problems can it solve, etc).

The other point is that, in my honest opinion, a sentence "xxx is software solving yyy" is neutral. Michal.

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (I only google her name and got information on published interviews and actors databases - like Actors Access and IMDB. I referenced everything under. If gives the idea promoting, I'm wondering why. I wrote based on many wikipedia actors pages of actors with less references/materials and less known than her. I also read the guidelines but couldn't figure it out what's wrong. How this can be improved instead of deleted? Thank you. Talent media (talk) 19:13, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

required disclosures before we continue or you edit further. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

19:15, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade I am not being compensated direct or indirectly by any subject. It's just an attempt to contribute to Wikipedia with media/talent subjects and get to know the editing process here. Thank you Talent media (talk) 19:27, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for clarifying that. So far as the article itself, it looks like the "profile" style spam that we get very frequently. It uses inappropriate tone (e.g., reference to a person should be full name on first mention and last name thereafter, so "Scozzafave", not "Mia"), it cites a "resume" style site with relatively irrelevant "talking up" factors such as languages spoken (if actual third-party sources haven't seen fit to cover those, it's not important enough to go in the article either), and cites other inappropriate sources such as a site that explicitly states it's a gossip site. You'd need to stick to sources that meet the definition of

neutral tone. If multiple independent and reliable sources don't cover her in reasonable depth, she's not an appropriate subject for an article at all. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

19:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for creating GCTools! I edit here too, under the username Boleyn and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that

I don't know if this is still being worked on, but it isn't currently ready for the mainspace.

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Boleyn (talk) 05:43, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Boleyn, this was created as a merge target for three articles for which the consensus at AfD was to merge into this single page. I thought my edit summary made that quite clear. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 06:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Please DO read the discussion. That's why the site exists. It is very unpolite to start a edit war without discussion! --Tamarin (talk) 18:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

?... https://centerofthewest.org/2018/06/29/karl-may-henry-carbine-myth/ ...? (against my better judgment...I don't even know if I'm allowed to type anything here...) is the link I just input something in English that's required by wikipedia for the Henry Carbine page?MagicRifleResearch (talk) 08:20, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

notable. Most fictional weapons aren't; while there are a few exceptions, they'd be on the order of something like the Batarang or Excalibur, and this weapon doesn't appear to be studied in the same way as those are. Normally, heavy in-universe detail like this goes on a fan Wikia rather than on Wikipedia, and I do note that one exists for this author: [1]. Material like this is probably a better fit there; extremely heavy in-universe detail is not generally appropriate for Wikipedia. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

17:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Seraphimblade (I don't know how to make the name go in colour) for the explanation. That goes way beyond me. I'm long past my 'use-by-date' and the requirements are way beyond me. There are heaps of 'research papers' in German language, but all connected to a German Karl-May body, of which there are several, the scouring of which requires time I don't have. What happens to the text now? While the page was up I downloaded a wikipedia PDF of it and have uploaded it to my own Karl May website - the links to the places are clickable, so that'll do me. I've also included a link to the 'view history' page where the comparisons are visible, so people can still find the text. Other than that it'll take 'an expert' now. I also have put a 'help' request on my facebook page, so there might be someone out there who knows of the required item and knows how to properly drive Wikipedia (I don't) - your link goes to the Indonesian Karl May Club (very nice people) - the country of origin, Germany has Karl May Society, Club, Museum, Publisher, and more https://www.karl-may-gesellschaft.de/index.php, https://www.karl-may-museum.de/en/, https://www.karl-may.de/Startseite, and that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_May. And that's the end of my wisdom. MagicRifleResearch (talk) 23:49, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

You recently deleted a page of mine entitled "Shatown", stating G11 and A7 as the main reasons for doing so. However, the page was not self promotion, as I am not the artist the page was talking about, and I checked to make sure my sources were good. If there is any way I can edit this article to make it up to Wikipedia standards, please let me know, as I am willing to change the article to keep it up. Thank you for your time, and I hope to hear from you soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultralordmaximus2001 (talk • contribs)

required disclosures before we proceed further. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

03:08, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade, thank you for your expeditious response, but I can assure you I am not getting paid to write this article. I'd be LUCKY if I was getting paid to write, but I am merely someone trying to make an article on this important artist. As stated in the article, she had enough accomplishments that other artists with articles have, including her own record label. Having a business like this is surely enough of an accomplishment to pass the biographical notability guidelines. Thank you again for your speedy response, and I hope we can work this out.

Well, no, that doesn't. What makes someone

neutral in both tone and content. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

03:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

It appears you deleted a page I created- "Nawaraj Subba". I created the page by translating some parts of the corresponding article from Nepali wikipedia "ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/नवराज_सुब्बा" as requested by the translation project. I didn't pay much attention to the resulting page, except trying to make it resemble the original as closely as possible; and I published it before the translation was complete. It seems that precisely might have been its downfall. I don't remember much about what's in it. And I don't think I can review the content once it's deleted. So, I request you to kindly revive the article to a draftspace, so that I can go over the article once again and improve it to comply with the standards of English wikipedia. Thanks. Usedtobecool (talk) 10:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Usedtobecool, I don't normally restore advertisements or promotional articles, and it doesn't give me much confidence that you state in a very blase way that you're not paying careful attention to what you're doing. It is entirely your responsibility to ensure that your translations comply with English Wikipedia content policies before you place them into mainspace. Other projects have different content policies, so work beyond just translating may be necessary to ensure that happens. Is that something you're willing to do in the future? Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 18:06, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Thank you for the prompt response and I apologise for creating trouble. "I don't normally restore advertisements or promotional articles." If you are implying that I have/had any interests in getting undeserved promotional material into wikipedia, I assure you I don't. My only goal is to include more content related to Nepal into English wikipedia because I believe it is underrepresented. I have had problems with finding quality secondary sources to support my articles' deservedness because Nepal is underrepresented in the internet in general and I don't have good access to good libraries either. I don't create any articles on subjects that wouldn't meet wikipedia notability standards in a perfect world. (all this said only to assure you of my motivations) Which is also to say that the article is on a notable subject that can be made deserving of wikipedia international with some careful work on my part (so reviving it isn't wasting time in vain). "I didn't pay much attention to the resulting page..." I wasn't being "blase". I chose words poorly and conveyed a misrepresented account. The truth is, since the task was to "translate", I was conflicted between whether to sacrifice translation accuracy for wikipedia standards or vice-versa. I mostly chose middle ground. Frankly, I am surprised this article was so blatantly "promotional". But having gone through the Nepali article that was the source, I am confident you are right to assess it as such. "Is that something you're willing to do in the future?" That is exactly what I am promising- "... so that I can go over the article once again and improve it to comply with the standards of English wikipedia." If you have the time, I could ping you to go over it, once I think it's actually ready for the mainspace this time. Finally, if none of the above line of reasoning convinces you, please let me play the noob card (although I have been told it's reaching its expiration threshold). I have been actively contributing for less than 2 months. And I have restricted myself to low-priority and low-exposure content so my mistakes have limited damage. In light of that, I put it to you that, getting to see an article where I went horribly wrong would be an immense help in making me a better editor, even if the article never makes it to the mainspace again. Thanks again, for your work and your patience with me. Usedtobecool (talk) 18:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Usedtobecool, appreciate the explanation. I've restored to Draft:Nawaraj Subba. Since promotional material is subject to deletion in any namespace, I stubbed it to remove that, but the prior content is available in the page history. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 18:20, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

This page should not be speedily deleted because...

Hi Seraphimblade. This was my first time creating a wikipedia page. I put the page up in good faith and can confirm that to the best of my knowledge everything in there was factual and non promotional of % Arabica, all was based on accurate historical info etc. I am wondering if the page was deleted because of content or because it is not allowed for an organisation to create a page for themselves as a general rule? I contested the flagging of the "db-spam|help=off" tag and explained why - and also just requested a little help explaining what I would need to remove/change in the article to be accepted......so to then just be deleted with no secondary explanation leaves me unable to work out how to move forward and improve and get this right

Hope I have posted this on your page correctly !? As someone who doesnt code or have any experience on wikipedia I am finding this whole process extremely difficult and to have lost the article is also disheartening.

EDIT: I have also registered on my user page the Paid Contribution information as I discovered the hard way that this is necessary prior to publishing an article as I did

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stwtc (talk • contribs)

neutral in both tone and content, and that's very hard to do on a subject you're close to. Since you're being paid for your work, the expectation is that you will be able to do it correctly on your own, rather than ask for volunteer editors to help you with your paid project. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

18:34, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

So long as you write it neutrally, sticking only to facts verified by

independent sources, you'd be fine. But if it's promotional again, it will be deleted again. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

18:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

You restored

I continue to think the article should be restored. Geo Swan (talk) 01:56, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Geo Swan, some of them mention the term. Notability requires in-depth coverage; no number of name drops add up to substantial coverage. Do you have any sources which do more than mention it briefly in something that's about a related subject? If no such exist, the topic is indeed non-notable, which may be why two people now have redirected the article for that very reason. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 02:06, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, You recently deleted an article of mine titled "All for the Game (Series)", it was my first time writing an article and I am a student who wrote this article as part of an assessment. I uploaded the article in good faith and once the request for deletion was made, made edits to the page (including more notable references) in order for it to meet WP:NBOOK, and satisfy the issues the users had with the page. As well as my page being deleted, my draft in my sandbox also was and I am confused as to why? I was wondering what it would take for me to make the article notable enough in order to re-upload it? As i believe with my edits my page was notable enough and met the WP:NBOOK standards? Thank you! Altinky (talk) 00:18, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Altinky, there was nothing particularly wrong with what you had in your sandbox, but since you'd moved the page to mainspace already, it was a redirect to a page that no longer existed. Those are routinely deleted when the pages to which the redirect points is deleted. So far as the article itself, you should review the AfD discussion for the concerns that led other editors to come to a consensus to delete the article. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:39, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh, one other thing to note: An excessively long plot summary can be a

copyright violation and necessitate deletion for that reason. Plot summaries should summarize the plot; i.e. a paragraph or two, not retell it blow by blow. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

00:42, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thank you so much! I'll make those edits! I was also wondering if it would be possible for me to access a historical revision of the page to access some of my lost work? Thank you Altinky (talk) 00:46, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Since you seem to think you can resolve the problems that led to deletion, I've restored the previous versions to Draft:All for the Game (Series). Remember that prior to any future move to mainspace, you will need to be sure you've addressed the problems that the AfD participants brought up. You can even, if you want, ask them if they think your new version has corrected the problems. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 01:08, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it! Altinky (talk) 03:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

I think they might have a point, they're not expressing it all that coherently but could they actually have a point? Some of this content appears to have been published in a reputable publication. Yeah, the IP's style is grating and yeah they do tend to get all CAPPY in a HUFF but...do you think there is maybe any way to work with them constructively?...honestly, I don't know either, just am hoping they'll slow down and actually read/comprehend our various posts. Shearonink (talk) 14:11, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Shearoink, if they'll settle down and stick to only suggesting material actually published in decent sources, maybe there is a way to figure something. But if they're going to continue this bit of "I'm right because I say I am", there's not much any of us can do. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:01, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Consensus can be such a tricky business... some folks just don't want to work, don't even like to work in a collaborative environment, they're simply out to right great wrongs. I had a feeling it would devolve into an inevitable end and looks like the situation is headed that way... Shearonink (talk) 06:13, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for speedily taking care of Anila Ali. It was one of the more, er, interesting articles I've come across during my time on Wikipedia! Marquardtika (talk) 02:13, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

And thank you for catching and flagging it, as well. And cheers! Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 14:21, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

As of tonight there's been no reply by Pi314m in either the section listed in the above section title, or in the section you created following it. This is consistent with my last comment in that 3O section, where I said "IMHO the underlying problem is that—as I've shown in the preceding paragraphs—Pi314m believes that Wikipedia gives him the right to be the sole decider of the subject and contents of an article, even when it's partly about subject matter of which he knows nothing. That would explain why he has not responded to my subject-related comments in the Talk page section above ....". If you expect any reply from Pi314m before Tuesday morning you'd better "goose" him early tomorrow (Friday); his personal Contributions page discloses that he is an Orthodox Jew, and a holiday celebrated by Ashkenazic Orthodox Jews for two days begins at the close of the Sabbath on Saturday at sundown. DovidBenAvraham (talk) 04:01, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Seraphimblade:

I need help with my Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Michael_Cummings

I myself did not create the article. In 2010 or so, a librarian in a West Virginia public school did. She is deceased. Since, editors of journals having published my short stories and a former literary agent added to the page.

Recently, I made changes to the page, specifically uploading two photos of my book covers. But I did not follow protocol. Tags at the top of the page appeared, one after another, each worse.

I myself have not touched the actual article since this incident started six weeks ago, but have instead remained markedly earnest and cooperative and forthcoming on the User Talk page.

On my USER TALK, page you will see extensive dialogue between me and who seems to be only Wiki editor involved "Bonadea." She's well-informed and reasonable.

A few weeks back, she redrafted the page to sound encyclopedic, but she removed too much, I think. I had thought at the time, she was ready to remove the tags. Not so. She still feels the page is "autobiographical," even though I have dug up many links to reliable sources for her. Today, she's less and less available to help, as she is a teacher with a heavy class load.

I so much want the page to exist at its best. It would make me very proud, and I honestly feel who I am as a writer and what accomplishments I have made are of note.

But the paragraphs about my article become scant as the descend, and the entire page is lacking my most important accomplishments.

Again, I have available all links to the entirety of my USER TALK page.

My first novel won The Paterson Prize for Books for Young People 2009 (Grade 7-12), with a link to a reliable source. This a great award. But it is not listed.

I want acknowledgement of my receiving an Honorable Mention in The Best American Short Stories 2007, again a great accomplishment, with a link available.

I want acknowledgement being nominated for The Pushcart Prize - a fabulous achievement not listed.

I want all my 75 plus published short stories listed, not just a handful as shown on my page. All stories are reputably published is good university journals and commercial magazines. I want them presented in columns and set off my the lines of a box around them, as I seen on many sites.

I'v spent thirty years of my life - every day devoted - to becoming a writer of accomplishment. I sacrificed income and the great life experience of having a family I could support.

A few questions:

How quickly can you get to work on the Wiki page?

Do other editors get involved with you?

Will you willingly communicate with me here on your email page, rather on the USER TALK for all the world to see. I think "Bonadea" would prefer not seeing my comments, as I am the subject of the article, and would prefer working only with a professional Wiki editor.

I look forward to a prompt reply.

Thank you very much. LankyKeller (talk) 13:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello

promotional and strictly disallowed in encyclopedia articles. Bonadea is an experienced editor, so I would strongly advise listening to them. The Wikipedia article about you will not be a showcase of everything you've written or won, or say anything promotional or "talking up" about you, and I'm afraid trying to make it into that is very likely to be an exercise in frustration for you. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

15:35, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

LankyKeller (talk) 18:46, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

• LankyKeller, I really think it's time you gave it a rest from canvassing many of our regular volunteer editors and admins for help over the Wikipedia article about you. You do need to understand that Wikipedia biographies do not exist for their subjects' benefit. Wikipedia decides what gets written and about whom, and clearly your only interest in Wikipedia is the article about yourself, and at the moment the article is now in danger of being deleted completely. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:02, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Dear Seraphimblade,

It seems that you deleted my page about Jean-Charles Diener on the 22th of may 2019. Could you please explain to me reason as it seems to me that I was respecting the rules and the code of Wikipedia. If you could provide me an explanation I would be able to change if needed. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hippocampe77 (talk • contribs) 03:01, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

required disclosures before we proceed. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

19:44, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade It was not my intention to do an promotional article. I am not paid neither compensated for this. Jean-Charles Diener worked on the aquaculture and fishing industry and is famous for is work on it (I can provide neutral source on his work). The goal of this article is not to promote this person but to contribute to general knowledge about aquaculture and fishing industry. It seems that the way I wrote it didn't comply with the Wikipedia rules so I would like to change it, would it be possible to have access to the old text to change it and adapt it to a better way?

Dear Seraphimblade, I really want to improve my article in the way that fit with Wikipedia rules. As I asked you before, would it be possible to access to the old text, more it would be appreciated if you had any advice to give me. Thank you a lot.

Fikenn (talk) 19:33, 10 June 2019 (UTC)== Arjo AB ==

Hi Seraphimblade, I created page Arjo AB on Friday which was deleted - for advertising. I had based the page on other company pages with history and products, but would really like pointers as to where I should make changes. I thought it was fairly neutral in tone, but if there are ways of getting the page tone correct, I'd be really grateful. I've read the Wiki guidelines in detail and am not sure where the changes to the page should be made as it was basically a history - perhaps more references etc? Thanks in advance for any help or comments! Fikenn (talk) 19:34, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

articles for creation. Please ensure to follow that process if you attempt to write a new draft. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

19:54, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

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	This was magnificent "It belongs to the community that built it, both literally (while we agree to free license our contributions, they still do belong to us) and figuratively" talk ) 13:33, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm trying to add a company page as part of a project to add local companies. I see it is strangely locked for editing. Would you be able to help me please. Firstly by unlocking it - and secondly I would appreciate your help in adding the article and ensuring it wouldn't be considered spam or advertising, I appreciate this is a common concern from admins. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FaikimAcnt019 (talk • contribs) 21:03, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

FaikimAcnt019, it would be considerably helpful if you could link to the page you're talking about. I am not particularly good at reading minds. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:06, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Haha sorry Seraphimblade, that was pretty stupid of me... It's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoProtect — Preceding unsigned comment added by FaikimAcnt019 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

articles for creation when you believe it is ready to go into the encyclopedia. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

21:21, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Seraphimblade, thanks for the reply. It does however bring up a message that it is locked when I try to create the draft. It says: "This page is currently protected so that only administrators can create it." I'm messaging yourself as it tells me you were the one to lock it? "00:36, 25 May 2019 Seraphimblade talk contribs protected Draft:AutoProtect [Create=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (Repeatedly recreated) (hist) (thank)" Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FaikimAcnt019 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

paid or compensated to edit regarding this subject. Please make the required disclosures before we continue further. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

00:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

For your clear and accurate summaries of the WP:FRAM situation. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs ) 02:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Some falafel for you!

Thank you for your detailed response to Jan. I support your statement. starship.paint (talk) 02:49, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

I just re-read your analysis...

...and wanted to say again how completely I agree with it. I don't believe there was even a minor point that I thought was mistaken. Nice work. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:01, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

I want to say how much I appreciate your comments on the WMF/Fram fiasco. I agree with everything you have said on the various threads with regard to that issue. You certainly do speak for me and save me the trouble of trying to express what I think and feel. Rather than the WMF getting all these comments from hundreds of editors, which they probably don't even read, would it be possible for us to vote for you as our liaison or spokesperson or Ombudsman or such like and act as the representative of the en wikipedia community to present our case to them?Smeat75 (talk) 04:00, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Smeat75, while I appreciate the sentiment, I'm not running for ArbCom again. It took up a lot more time than I had to spare, and while it was certainly a learning experience, it was not one I particularly want to do again. If you would like to contribute to the discussion, please share your thoughts there. Strong community opposition is the one thing that we can give. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 09:32, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

I agree with much of what you wrote here. I have made similar points on Wikimedia-l, both with regards to the present situation and more generally. --Pine (✉) 20:10, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for closing; you beat me to this by about 2 minutes. I was going to close with the action of removing the comments (replacing them with (Redacted)) which I think is a reasonable reading of the existing consensus on the page and the prescribed enforcement of the remedy. Anyway if you'd like to modify your close I think that would be great, but if not whatever. ~Awilley (talk) 23:02, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

I think it's probably better at this point to just leave it alone. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:05, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

I tend to agree with Newyorkbrad. I do not see an urgent issue that requires intervention here. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 23:08, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi good afternoon you recently deleted a page of mine “Rikhi Thakral” who is a famous philanthropist and businessman in Southeast Asia. It was full of references and links to all the major events so I am unsure why this action was taken. I have read all the guidelines and don’t see how this was advertisement for him as it was written objectively. Thank you! TravisM416 (talk) 07:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

neutral in both tone and content. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

16:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

SeraphimbladeThanks so much for the feedback, honestly. From a Cambodian perspective, he would warrant the word "distinguished" based upon his philanthropy and contributions to society, as well as his accolades. However, if it seems to be fluff for you, I can certainly edit it. As for your other comments, again, this is written from a Cambodian point of view, so some of the words and phrases are different (i.e. Experiences and achievements is the usual title we use in business here). I am happy to change those as well if it makes it more internationally objective. I certainly didnt want it to come across as a "look how great of a guy he is" and I will review and rewrite the tone and content. My question is now how to proceed. How do I access the original document to make the appropriate edits and resubmit to you to ensure that it follows the guidelines. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravisM416 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

neutral point of view. The vast majority of that article was completely at odds with NPOV and was promotional. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

01:31, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Thanks for the quick response! I understand that it must be from a neutral point of view. I was just hoping to explain the reasons behind some of the phrases. So my question is now how do I proceed? I want to fix it so it meets all international standards and is 100% objective. Where can I access the original text? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravisM416 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

You can certainly take another go of it. Just make sure to avoid promotional language, fluff adjectives, and any kind of "talking up" of the article subject. Stick to facts verified by

reliable sources, and present them in a neutral tone. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

18:38, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade For some reason, I didnt get a notification saying you had responded. I wanted to ask where I could go to try again? Do I have to reupload every single document/picture and text or can I edit it from the page? Obviously it would be much easier to do the latter, and it would take a fraction of the time. Is it possible to temporarily republish it with the caveat that I edit it quickly to ensure it meets all standards and doesn't contain any fluff. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravisM416 (talk • contribs) 01:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Hi I wanted to give it a go again. I have cut down on all the flowery language and I have kept it objective, so hopefully there shouldnt be any problems. Could you check it to make sure it's ok? If you see any problems, definitely let me know and I'll fix it right away (but hoping it's fine!) Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravisM416 (talk • contribs) 09:16, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

TravisM416, did you not see anything above? Articles are not a CV. We refer to an individual by their full name on first mention, and their last name only on subsequent mentions, so "Thakral", not "Rikhi Thakral" after the first mention. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 09:39, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade You dont have to be snarky. I really am just trying to follow the rules. So I cannot list any awards or honors? To me, that helps make one "notable." Does Wikipedia have a different definition? I sincerely want to know.

No, we don't do a

laundry list of awards to make a person look good. If they actually won a notable award, that may be appropriate to mention, but just "Hey, look how cool they are!" type stuff is not permitted. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

10:39, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Fair enough, that makes sense. But now another user did a speedy delete of the page. Did you think it seemed promotional? I thought it honestly was neutral and I tried to remove any language that made him seem "great."

You will need to speak to the administrator who did the new deletion regarding why they did. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 23:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

I have just read at

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JamesBWatson: Well, I think more thanks due to Guettarda, for putting it so well. But hopefully, that helps to get across why they're seeing such an uproar over what they've done. Katherine has seemed willing to engage (and, as some folks brought up at the discussion, the seriousness of the situation may have been getting lost as it got passed up the chain at WMF, until she started to hear directly from a bunch of people), so hopefully that works to bring some clarity. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

14:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I hope so too. And of course you are right that most of the thanks are due to

talk

) 15:34, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, definitely, thanks for putting on Katherine Maher's page. I was thinking about turning it into an email, as someone suggested on the FRAMBAN page, but this was a much better idea. Guettarda (talk) 17:44, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

I know there has been a lot of raised temperature during the ongoing Fram saga, but I feel like I owe it to you to thank you for the leadership that you have provided during those discussions. I really do appreciate it. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:02, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi there,

You deleted the page for Staysure on 28th June, due to 'advertising.' The page includes citations, examples and sources and is not advertising the brand. Instead, it aims to be factual and everything stated is according to facts alone. If you could explain in what way the page's content is subjective or 'advertising', that would be appreciated.

Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JellyYo (talk • contribs) 09:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

required disclosures before we continue. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

15:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. How do I make a disclosure if the page has been deleted? I do need to disclose and didn't realise I needed to do that, my mistake. If you could point me in the right direction with this, and hopefully retrieve the page back once I've disclosed this, that would be brilliant. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JellyYo (talk • contribs) 15:30, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

WP:PAID. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

15:36, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I've now added the disclosure to my talk page. Does this mean that Staysure's article page will now be reinstated? Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JellyYo (talk • contribs) 15:51, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

GEICO ad campaigns as examples), that's an exception rather than the rule, and we normally wouldn't have any material recapping ads or promoting the ad companies. That was the primary issue with the article. Finally, sources like "Builtvisible" or "Founded" should be avoided; we would be looking for sources that don't have an interest in promoting the company. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

17:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

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Your reversions were undone because while you might think the references are adequate,

Use the article talk page to discuss the article, not this one please. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:16, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

You are involved in a dispute resolution. you can access it here: Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Conservapedia 24.155.244.245 (talk) 07:36, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

The filing has been closed. --MrClog (talk) 13:46, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

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Nice work about the Oakland Buddha. --Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:38, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Farang Rak Tham, much appreciated! Also thank you for adding the metadata values to it; I never remember to do that. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 18:42, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Seraphimblade, re: this edit, I'm not exactly clear on what the issue is. A film itself can be used as a reference for its own plot. That's

Cyphoidbomb, please use the article talk page, not this one, to discuss the article. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 18:41, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Nah, I'm not jumping through extra hoops for no good reason. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you again for trying to help. I always value

I see that you have been at Wikipedia for 10 years and 40,000 edits, so you have seen everything. Just hoping the level of detailed information here on Wikipedia about Emma Chamberlain is being evaluated for the merit of any notable person who is at the top of their field, which is what all those articles you deleted are saying about her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilith Before The Garden (talk • contribs)

ping them to get their attention. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

19:24, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. I have now learned there is an Emma Chamberlain Talk Page, there is a Teahouse page, you told me about Pinging editors. Just trying to fit in here. There are so many slight variations on the proper format to cite sources I am still confused but learning. I also still believe that quantity and detail about information is still somewhat subjective, one person's view that something is trivia or puff may not be consistent across even experienced Wikipedia editors. I am looking at many pages of equivalent YouTubers and current celebrities and the amount of info is all over the place, some "minor" persons have much more detail than more famous people. I am just trying to be somewhere in the middle. Thank you again for your insight. (not even sure I am doing my signature correctly here) Lilith Before The Garden

Lilith Before The Garden, if you have specific portions you think I was wrong on, I'm happy to talk about those with you, but let's move the discussion to the article talk page. As to the rest, don't worry, we were all new once. So far as signing (and do sign, if nothing else you picked quite a neat username), put four tildes at the end of what you write, like so: ~~~~. That will automatically place the signature and timestamp: Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 15:53, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

OK, got it. Thank you. I've posted a few items over at EC's talk page for review that I believe are justified for inclusion on her page. Lilith Before The Garden (talk) 01:28, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

On 13 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oakland Buddha, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after a Buddha statue was installed on an Oakland traffic median, neighborhood crime dropped by 82 percent? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oakland Buddha. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Oakland Buddha), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Seraphimblade, I appreciate your patience in guiding me, regarding an appropriate image for Martha Rockwell. The United States Ski & Snowboard Hall of Fame has provided me with an image that they consider themselves to be the "owner" of. While the photographer is unknown, the back reads "1976 Olympic Tryouts publicity shot", which implies that it was a US Ski Team picture of the time. Do you see a way forward with an image of this provenance? I'll look for your reply, here. Sincerely, HopsonRoad (talk) 13:56, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

HopsonRoad, it sounds like that's an orphan work, and those are an immensely frustrating area of copyright. The copyright holder would still be the photographer (unless that individual assigned copyright it to someone else), even if the museum owns that particular copy. The museum does not have the authority to grant a free license release. That being said, if it's a "publicity image", it may have in fact been published. If you could find that the image was published before 1977, and it was not published with a copyright notice, it would be in the public domain. (This would not be true, however, if it were published in 1977 or after; that's right at the borderline of when that was true). But you may have hit upon a usable one, if you can find a place where it was indeed published and there was not a copyright notice. You might find the Hirtle chart helpful in navigating what's PD and what's not; it can be a tremendous pain in the ass to try and figure out. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 14:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Seraphimblade. I understand, since I last wrote, that it's in the USS&SHofF archives, so that probably means that "fair use" is not an option? Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 14:57, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, no, it couldn't be used as nonfree, but like I said above, it may not be nonfree. If you can find a pre-1977 publication of it without a copyright notice (which there's a decent chance of; many pre-1977 publicity/advertising images were published without one), it's in the public domain, and then it's a free image. And of course, we can use free images all day long. So, that's my advice, is try to find out if it got published before 1977 without a notice of copyright. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 15:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

The CEO of my company is a published author and industry leader, for whom I'm trying to setup a Wiki page. However, I want to set this up correctly without violating the terms. It's a clear conflict of interest as I am employed by the person who I'm trying to help setup a page for. I read the guidelines and added a request for review to this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Biography/By_profession&stable=0#N%E2%80%93S

I want to make sure I did this correctly. I also want to know if it's possible to connect with an editor who can write an unbiased review. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allisonchaney (talk • contribs) 22:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

independent sources have provided in-depth coverage of this individual. (Not just name-drops or mentions.) If such coverage does not exist in regards to this individual, an article on them would not be appropriate until and unless it does. If it does, knowing where to find it could very much help someone who answers your request. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me}

22:10, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

But, in the grand scheme of things, thank you. Buffs (talk) 15:44, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks so much for that help. Yes, I can now see it has uploaded correctly. Thank you too for explaining the rationale for one free image used in these circumstances per article - that all makes sense to me. Fortnum (talk) 06:14, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi

regular policies. Will be thankful to your first reply!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilbert Ryan (talk • contribs) 07:41, 24 August 2019 (UTC) 

``` Thanks Seraphimblade............. Thank-you for your help. I have re uploaded a few of my images to wiki using the following tag; {{

Thanks again for your help!!!!!! By the way, I've been working with wiki for five years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by dcw2003 (talk • contribs)

dcw2003, I think I just gave you some advice, but I'm glad to hear it was helpful. Like I said, if you're ever unsure or have a particularly complex or unusual case, asking at MCQ is a good way to get some more eyes on it. I don't generally talk by phone, but you're certainly welcome to leave a message here if you should need to. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 03:48, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

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Re: "Essentially, several arbitrators are saying that WMF "own" Wikipedia, when they don't, and shouldn't. They just own some hardware. Saying WMF owns the actual website would be a fundamental change to our licensing policies; as of today, while contributors agree to irrevocably license their contributions under a free license, they do still own them. WMF does not own the site, it owns some computers."

First of all, the WMF doesn't own the computers. They spent $2.3 million USD on hosting last year.

Secondly, they own the domain names. Thirdly, they own the trademarks on "Wikipedia", "Wikimedia" "Wictionary", the globe made out of puzzle pieces, etc. Fourthly, and most important for this purpose, they are legally responsible and can be sued if The WMF allows any of the following to remain on the site after the WMF is notified of it: privacy violations, child protection, copyright infringement, systematic harassment.

We, the content creators, don't own Wikipedia any more that the creators of videos own YouTube or the people writing tweets own Twitter. True, all of those sites would fail if the users abandoned them (and Digg did fail when the users did abandon them) but that doesn't make the users the owners. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Well, Guy Macon, saying they own some computers may have been a simplification of saying that they own contracts for use of some computers. But since they are in control of both those contracts and what is done with those machines, that seems rather a distinction without a difference. So far as owning the trademarks, I already said at User talk:Worm That Turned that they do indeed control those, but saying that's "owning the website" is rather empty. If YouTube's video creators, or Wikipedia's editors, left en masse, those who control the trademarks would be left with an empty shell, as happened with Digg. But more importantly, it is the content that makes those sites what they are, and neither YouTube nor WMF own that. Saying they "own" the sites because they own the trademarks is like saying Toyota owns my car because it owns the trademark rights to the nameplate on it. That may be, but without the tires or engine, it's no longer a working car at all. They don't own the parts that actually make the thing go, or that actually make it what we call "a car", and WMF does not own what makes Wikipedia, well, Wikipedia. No one comes to Wikipedia to see the name or the puzzle globe. They come to see the articles, and those are owned and produced collectively by Wikipedia's contributors, not the WMF. Take away the content, and there's no more Wikipedia. Change the logo, and very few people would notice and even fewer would care. So, as to who owns the essence of Wikipedia, that being its content—well, you, and I, and thousands of others, do. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 12:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

You are entirely correct about the essence of Wikipedia, but you are dead wrong about the legal concept of "ownership". If you buy a Toyota you own it (that is to say you own A Toyota, not that you own Toyota Motor Corporation). If you lease a Toyota, then Toyota owns it. See General Motors EV1#Who Killed the Electric Car? where GM took back cars from unwilling leaseholders and crushed them, refusing to let the leaseholders buy them at any price.

Perhaps I can make you understand by putting it a different way. We both agree that if YouTube's video creators, left en masse, those who I claim to be the owners would be left with an empty shell. But it would not, as you claim, be an empty shell owned by the video creators. The video creators wouldn't be able to sell it. The video creators wouldn't be able to reinstate any banned video creators. Legally and practically, the WMF are the owners of Wikipedia, and your claims to the contrary are wishful thinking not grounded on the reality of the US legal system as it exists today. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Well, it's possible we're talking past one another. You're talking about ownership of the name Wikipedia, which I certainly won't dispute is indeed with WMF. I'm more talking about what most people refer to when they talk about "Wikipedia"—the encyclopedia itself. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 02:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

And I agree. I agree enthusiastically. As long as you are talking about what most people refer to when they talk about "Wikipedia" I am with you 100%. My problem is when you take it out of the context of what most people refer to when they talk about "Wikipedia" and try to assert that it is equally true in the context of Arbcom/the community vs. T&S/WMF making content decisions. Like it or not, the WMF allows us to make content decisions. They have no legal obligation to do so. They really don't. They also have the technical ability to override any community decision, which they demonstrated with Superprotect.

The one thing we have going for us is the fact that the board of directors has been consistent in sending the following message to the WMF: "don't exercise your legal authority over content other than dealing with copyright violations, child pornography, etc. If you are not willing to let the community determine content, you are fired, and we will hire someone who is willing". --Guy Macon (talk) 04:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

An extraordinarily long but sparsely-advertised survey that has a lot of questions about global strategy, community health (amount of abusive editors, sexual harassment, ability to accommodate culturally different editors, sufficiency of local civility policies et al) & T&S, software quality et cetera. Oone of the questions is :- In what ways, if any, can the Wikimedia Foundation do more to support the safety of individuals, resolve disputes, or protect against abusive community members? Leaving a note, in case you are interested, because I believe the results will be weaponized during the upcoming consultation ..... ∯WBG<sup>converse</sup> 15:54, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

meta:2019 Community Insights/Thank you seems to be the sole on-wiki documentation. ∯WBG<sup>converse</sup> 16:12, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Winged Blades of Godric, uh...well, holy hell, that's about a monstrosity of a survey. You should tell people to make a full pot of coffee before they go to look at it; one cup wasn't enough! But, I did go through it (if anything, mine might have been longer than yours; when I ticked "yes" to being an admin and involved with a local user group it gave me questions specific to those things), and my only conclusion is that the questions are often so poorly designed and vague that they're not useful for a single thing at all. Not to mention the sheer length means they'll only get responses from people with time and patience enough to actually sit through it. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 16:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I was hoping to get your advice or assistance in relation to recent changes to the lead of the article, Parental alienation, and how to edit that article without triggering an edit war. (Or perhaps whether to walk away, given the dominance of a couple of editors who have strong feelings on the subject.) Thanks. Arllaw (talk) 17:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Arllaw, I note on the article talk page, you made this comment: The inappropriately reverted former opening is biased and replete with error, misrepresenting what the sources actually say.... When making an assertion like this, it is important to provide details. What language do you believe is biased? Why? What information is erroneous? What's correct? What references support that assertion? Which references does it misrepresent? How does it misrepresent them? What do you propose as a correction? Details like that can be a good starting point for discussion, but the comment just seems to be asserting that your version is superior to the other and that the other is of poor quality, without going into detail as to why. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 02:21, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I understand that the talk page is difficult to follow. Discussion of the lead was started on August 26, at Talk:Parental alienation#Opening paragraph 2, considerably before any proposed changes subsequently made -- so while I agree that discussing this sort of issue in detail is generally helpful, it didn't work this time around. There are two editors who have strong opinions on PA, and whose accounts reflect little other activity, Skythrops and DrPax. Editor Skythrops chose not to participate in that discussion. DrPax disappeared from the talk page over the same period after posting a comment suggesting that he edits using multiple accounts and being asked to elaborate. They both returned at the same time to support reversion, despite having made no prior comment or objection. There would have been more discussion of specific issues had any questions or objections been raised. Editor Guy Macon has made some comments some of the issues I mention below, as well as some other issues with the article, including how efforts to implement even minor changes are transformed into epic battles.

In regard to the present lead, DrPax and Skythrops have been insistent that PA be described as "a distinctive form of psychological abuse and family violence". That's not consistent with the content of the article and, at the time the most recent discussion started, there was not even content within the article below addressing whether or not PA was a form of child abuse. I added content about the abuse theory as an attempt to try to avoid this type of situation, so that a corrected comment about abuse could justifiably remain in the lead.

The source for the "distinctive form of psychological abuse and family violence" phraseology is an article (footnote 4) that, within its own title, contradicts that assertion -- "Parental alienating behaviors: An unacknowledged form of family violence". If the position were generally held, it would be acknowledged. Within the Wikipedia PA article (footnote 70), one of the co-authors of that original article is referenced in relation to the continuing controversy and, while citing to the footnote 4 article that he co-authored in support of the point, states on page 142, "The arena of parental alienation is fraught with controversy, particularly regarding the question of whether parental alienation is a form of child abuse and family violence." (As for the other sources, Duhaime's law dictionary (5) does mention PA as "abuse", but it's not an authoritative source nor does it support the broader assertion. The Baker article (6) speaks of self-reported consequences of perceived PA, but does not include language or assertions that support the claim made in the lead.)

Similarly, the claim about "the most common cause" is not supported by the sources cited, nor is it supported by the content of the article. Claims about the consequences of PA in the lead are overstated, albeit toned down a bit from past versions. Mention of controversy has been deleted from the lead. Arllaw (talk) 13:24, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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here. Of course if a clear and unambiguous consensus is reached, that may not be necessary. Remember to phrase your RfC request neutrally; attempting to "push poll" in any way is not permitted. If you'd like to draft the RfC request in your userspace, I'd be happy to look at it and point out any problems before you actually put it up for comment. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

15:58, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that information. I was trying to address the problem of having multiple overlapping discussions, with editors participating in multiple discussions, which seemed to be making a convoluted talk page and discussion of editing issues even harder to follow (what editor Gary Macon fairly characterized as "walls of text"). It won't happen again.

On the issue of a request for comment, I very much appreciate your advice and offer of assistance. Given Gary Macon's fair points about the article at large, though, perhaps the issues he raises merit discussion in advance of a RfC about the lead, as I think that issues pertaining to the lead could be subsumed in a resolution of those larger issues.

Thank you very much for taking the time to provide this sort of guidance. I appreciate how much time it must take, for you to support the project in this manner and through your other efforts here. Arllaw (talk) 17:31, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Editing changes

Hi, thank you for getting in touch just now, I was not aware that I was violating any rules and am sorry if this was the case. Can i ask why the external links were deemed inappropriate? I added some facts to a few pages, and then added citations which directed to relevant external sites (where the facts can be found in the anchor text), I didn't add any external links to actual text (at least not intentionally, I might have made a mistake!). I would be grateful for your assistance as I don't want to make the same mistake again. Thank you!TomLambertLDT (talk) 20:12, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

required disclosures before editing any more. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

20:21, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Ah ok, I didn't know about that, sorry. I will make sure to disclose on my user page before editing any further. Thank you for your help!TomLambertLDT (talk) 20:43, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

independent source (which is reliable per the criteria in the above link) would be better than either. Continuing to add links, including as references, to this site, is not acceptable. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

20:51, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Seraphimblade, I have now updated the User Page, is that all ok now? Re linking to the website: although part of the website is a commercial booking platform, we also include long-form content to inform our users; this has facts and information about a range of events. We also have a blog which is not linked to the booking platform. Would it be permissible to use these pages as appropriate references? We always hope to create content that is useful and informative for readers, so we feel like it would benefit some wiki pages to reference usTomLambertLDT (talk) 09:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

is not a means to drive traffic to your site. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

19:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

2019OutlaweD

I've been staying out of the conversation on their page because grave-dancing is inappropriate, and that's how it'd appear if I weighed in. But I'm concerned enough about their recent comment that I felt a need to voice my worries to you. Stating their belief that certain editors, including myself, are

WP:OUTING. This edit is the one that worries me. If they are going to propose on their user talk page that the identities of specific editors should be investigated, as part of their belief that Wikipedia has been infiltrated by Chinese agents, this seems like grounds to revoke their talk page access. Simonm223 (talk

) 12:18, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Redblink

Hello, dear! My page about A digital marketing company named Redblink was deleted, though i followed all the guidelines, as per other marketing companies already added on wikipedia, if others exist why cant our company have a page , how can i reinstate, there are many marketing companies which have pages on wikipedia but they are not deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larsonreever (talk • contribs) 04:45, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

@

helped not to edit. I have deleted the spamvertisement you reinstated; don't do that again. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

05:10, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

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Explain yourself (Corrective notice)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Borderlands_franchise_characters

We do not delete main character lists for series. Please fix this immediately.Googinber1234 (talk) 15:35, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

is not the appropriate place for that. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

15:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I wasn't making an observation, I was making an ultimatum. You are to STOP deleting them. Googinber1234 (talk) 16:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Or what? Not a very good ultimatum without that. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 16:55, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

You will stop your destructive practices. This is not a suggestion, a request or even an order. It is a narration; I am precluding you from defying this based on fundamental values of what is correct. Googinber1234 (talk) 17:34, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Stop pestering participants of that AfD, Googinber1234, or you will be blocked from editing without further notice. El_C 17:36, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Question on the removed article

Hi. Sorry for previously contacting you via email. I'm writing to you in regard to the Sooqr Search article (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Sooqr_Search) that was deleted for the unambiguous advertising and promotion reason.

I now made sure to include the paid contribution template to my talk page, which I didn't do initially (I instead clarified the affiliation in the publishing reason). Yet I would also appreciate if you could let me know if that was the sole reason for deletion or there were other influences too, such as its tone.

Also, if you have any other advice you deem relevant it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dessels1th (talk • contribs) 07:46, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

reliable sources in backing. Reliable and independent sources really are a requirement, not a nicety. Do substantial amounts of reliable and independent source material back this subject? If not, we shouldn't have an article about it at all. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

12:41, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Understood, @Seraphimblade:, thank you. I also noticed that the edits I had previously made to other articles were removed. What are the reasons for that? Dessels1th (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

That wasn't me who reverted those. You'd need to discuss it with the editors who did. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 14:11, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Just FYI, I put the {{paid}} template on this user's userpage. They used {{connected contributor (paid)}} on their talk page, but that's for articles. Nonetheless it was a good-faith effort to disclose. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:19, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I certainly wouldn't fault someone for putting it on the talk page rather than the user page, that was obviously a good-faith attempt to disclose. Thanks for letting me know. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 18:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

What is Mathematica

You need to read the Mathematica article after your edit which takes only relevant content out of the page. You leave only a single sentence (the lead summary line) that attempts to describe what Mathematic is and what it does. The rest of the article talks about how you interface to whatever it does, how fast whatever it does happens, how you can share whatever it does, how many things connect to whatever it is, and how many versions of whatever it is there have been. None of that describes Mathematica itself. You may feel there are better ways of describing it, but please don't just delete the only attempt to summarize what it is, that others have worked on, without suggesting an alternative. Also, labeling a dense summary of its functionality which contains no adjectives, adverbs or superlatives as advertising and spam, is not helpful to the discussion. I tried to address your more reasonable comment about it being too long by making it more concise and moving some content. Greenmatter (talk) 08:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

independent source prior to reinsertion. In addition, while it is permissible to briefly describe the functionality of a product, a massive, bulleted laundry list of every single feature is beyond excessive and belongs in a sales brochure, not an encyclopedia article. The content you are reinserting is absolutely not permitted. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

11:00, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

What is with all this aggressive "final warning": and accusations on my talk page? I haven't given you any final warnings for vandalism or accused you of being a FOSS zealot intent on damaging the page. Look at the actual content and try and make the page better...

Imagine that you are, say, an NLP developer and someone suggests you look at Mathematica. How would you know it was relevant? What if you were an engineer wanting to do FEA simulations? What if you thought it was good for quantum physics, how would you know it was not? You have rendered the page useless. The systen is around 6000 functions covering very disparate, sometimes unrelated, fields, 390 words to sum that up is not "massive" It could be shortened and certainly referenced. Why not try doing that rather than making the page empty of useful content. Please explain how you think it is better to have no information at all? Greenmatter (talk) 17:41, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

paid editing without the mandatory disclosure, which I deal with frequently and am quite good at recognizing. While editing for pay is not forbidden, editing for pay without disclosing that you are being paid is. So before we continue further, are you being paid or compensated to edit Wikipedia, including being asked or expected to do so as a duty of employment or internship? Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

18:11, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

No. Now ask yourself if your 'reds under the beds' radar is why you won't talk about the state you have left the page in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenmatter (talk • contribs) 07:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Well, then we shall say it is...interesting, that a long-dormant account came back after several years to add promotional content to an article about a commercial product. That being said, the content is promotional and not permitted. In an article about software, a prose summation of a few of the most notable features of the software may be okay. A bulleted

laundry list of every feature of the software is absolutely not, as it is promotional. If you can find some independent and reliable sources that discuss the most notable features of the software, please do write prose, not a bullet list, that sums up what they had to say. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

17:17, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Well, I'm not going to try and write new content that will get deleted. As far as I can see, listing features is pretty normal on software pages (5 of the 7 I looked at), but you may wish to go and delete all of the following too Features_new_to_Windows_10 * Adobe_Photoshop#Photoshop_tools * Google_Chrome#Features * Microsoft_Edge#Features * SageMath#Features — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenmatter (talk • contribs) 19:21, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

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Editor assistance

Hello Seraphimblade! I'm writing to you as I found your name in the Editor assistance project (sorry, I don't know how to link it). I wanted to ask if you could help me by answering some questions from time to time. Or maybe advice where I can get such help if you are no longer involved. I'm new here and I learn better face-to-face. I've already asked several questions in the Teahouse, but I don't know if I should spam it every time I need help (at least that's how I perceive it). I would really appreciate your help.Less Unless (talk) 14:57, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Less Unless, you seem to be doing well so far, and don't worry about asking questions at the Teahouse—that's literally what it's there for, and what you've already posted there has been entirely appropriate. If you'd rather ask me though, you're welcome to do that too. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 19:08, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Thank you for cheering me up. I will then write more to the Teahouse, but hope to call on you for help sometimes (promice I'm not annoying )).Less Unless (talk) 20:39, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Neutrality

Please confine discussion of article content to the article talk page, and do not use my talk page for it. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 16:50, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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Could you tell me where Wikipedia policy declares legal verdicts to be binding or correct? Boris Berezovsky`s page also doesn`t say he is actually guilty of embezzling does it? 83.128.99.144 (talk) 16:33, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Please confine discussion of article content to the article talk page, and do not use my talk page for it. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 16:34, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Also since you are an Atheist, Liberal and homosexual rights supporter I request you recuse yourself from edits involving someone like Pell who stands for everything you are opposed to. 83.128.99.144 (talk) 16:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

No. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 16:37, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

You were the one who started edit warring. You have not cited any wikpedia guidelines. Also don`t bother me on my page if you don`t want me to do so either. 83.128.99.144 (talk) 16:47, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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I wanted to thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. More specifically edits on the Church of The Creator Article and Talk pages. Your review, edits will have an end result of enhancing Wikipedia, an appropriate Article page and it is appreciated. I also appreciate the user name, graphic, that I embrace as symbols of an Order of Whole Light Being, combined with a symbol of truth and justice. As you know, I am a COI, on the Article, but here I am a user of Wikipedia, giving thanks for your efforts on a far broader scope. Michael S. Legions (talk) 16:22, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Simple request

Could you do a bit more editing on the

2019 outbreak of lung illness linked to vaping products article? QuackGuru is about to flip his lid on me I feel Mfernflower (talk

) 23:48, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

I will continue to work on it as I have time, but I'm afraid I can't guarantee when that will be. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 03:31, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Once again, the article was flooded with more un-encyclopedic but not necessarily disruptive edits from the usual suspect Mfernflower (talk) 15:38, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

As the header at the top of this page clearly instructs, please discuss article content on the article talk page, not this one. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 15:58, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

A goat for you!

Glad to see you are the best at removing spam. I am a new user, can you show me how to remove advertizing page like this one done by some media company? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandro_Salsano

Contribuine34 (talk) 05:04, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Contribuine34 Well, thanks. I think I'd probably advise you to get a bit more experience under your belt editing Wikipedia before you try tackling spamming. That article might have a bit of puff to it, but it's certainly far from the worst I've seen. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 05:26, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding your newly accepted article

Hi! I saw that you had currently accepted article of

want to talk?

11:54, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

If you need some help in India related articles then you can levae message on my talk page. —

want to talk?

11:56, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Harshil, there is exactly one criterion at AfC: "Would this article be deleted?" Not "Is the grammar good?", not "Is it COI?" (COI editors are supposed to submit via AfC), not anything else. Stow the patronizing crap and go fix it if you think it merits it. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 15:24, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Your help requested

Over much of this year I have already engaged at

NewsAndEventsGuy (talk

) 22:41, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Another artist article 06-NOV-2019

Hello! As you were so helpful in handling the Natalia Toreeva article, I was hoping you might be able to have a look at another artist article, Kent Tate. I believe that the artist may be trying to pack the article with irrelevant citations (via COI edit requests). It currently has 15 citations for only 9 sentences. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Warm regards,  Spintendo  00:46, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Painful

It bizarre to me just how painful this comment was...rather "is". Question, when there is an OR/There-must-be-sources issue, how can we tell if others are jerks or teachers? If we saw the Socratic method at work, how could we tell if it was teaching or "snark"?

You got it wrong, and I'm not reflecting on what I did in the precursor events, I'm pondering just why your comment continues to hurt. Not to mention the other ed kicking me in the teeth and being defended.

I must really be a piece of shit, not a teacher.

NewsAndEventsGuy (talk

) 14:59, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

NewsAndEventsGuy, certainly my intent was not to call you a "piece of shit". However, I find the "Socratic method" translates poorly indeed to text-only communication, and often comes across as snarky or disingenuous. If you have something to say or ask, it's best to just say or ask it directly, not beat around it. "Do you have sources for that?" works just fine, and is a neutral question that shouldn't offend anyone. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

19:39, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Like everyone, I'm a volunteer. My time is important. An experienced ed who interprets an image, declares we should have text changes, assures us that even a plebian search will show [{WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCS]].... ok.... so a person does all that. I read it. (My volunteer time has been spent.) I then ask "Got sources?" (My volunteer time has been spent again.) Also at play is

NewsAndEventsGuy (talk

) 22:06, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Please modify your comment at AE about my actions. We appear to agree that socratic method can be done in good faith. You have opined that it it "often comes across as snarky". In other words, a problem can arise if the reader (or admin) fails to assume good faith. You've opined I did a great deal of provocation. If one assumes bad faith or one has a CIR-related inability to receive civil socratic method asking them to think, the problem isn't with me, and the AE report should be revised to at least admit the possiblity that I was doing good work and there was a misunderstanding. And I really can't believe the horrible thing the other party said when they failed to assume good faith and failed to back up there desired text with sources was so trivialized. Yet I'm the bad guy, when you admit what I said is open to interpretation? Please consider modifying your comment at AE about my actions.

NewsAndEventsGuy (talk

) 22:37, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Tepapi

Just FYI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tepapi. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Sure looks it to me too. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 18:31, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

AE

AE, not my talk page, is the place to discuss AE requests. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 03:43, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Seraphimblade. I hope you don't mind me posting on your talk page, but threatening to take an admin to Arbcom is a serious thing to do, and I wanted to explain myself and my comments more fully, away from the "spotlight" of AE. I know you're a longstanding editor, admin, and former Arb; the community holds you in high regard, and so do I. I don't have any "beef" with you, nor am I looking for a fight, but I very strongly believe that your proposed action would cause serious harm and that you haven't explained or justified it, and that per adminacct you are required (or would be required) to justify it. What started as a 2-way IBAN was appealed as a 1-way IBAN. That was six months ago. Sashi hasn't violated it since. He's been brought to AE over a single revert, with the filer falsely claiming there is a GMO TBAN and that the revert violates the TBAN. There was and is no GMO TBAN. To institute one now, following six months of compliance by Sashi, would be incredibly unjust. It would be punishing good behavior (compliance with the IBAN by Sashi) and rewarding bad behavior (using AE to win a content dispute). It seems to me a basic, fundamental truth that for any editor to be TBANed from a topic area, there must be recent examples of the editor being disruptive in that topic area. Otherwise, there is no ongoing disruption that requires a sanction, and so any sanction would be punitive. To impose this, unilaterally, without explaining yourself, without pointing to diffs, or links to talk page threads, or even identifying the articles at which the disruption occurred, strikes me as wildly outside what is expected of an admin. Asserting that it's "clear" there has been disruption–in the absence of any examples of disruption for six months–doesn't meet adminacct requirements in my eyes. Using the behavior in the AE report as justification of a GMO TBAN also makes no sense, especially if the AE report is not justified in the first place. Anyway, I hope you reconsider your proposed course of action, and if you do institute sanctions against Sashi, that you fully explain and justify your actions. Thank you for reading this. – Levivich 20:58, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

I really doubt that any rational explanation would satisfy Levivich. And I fully expect that ArbCom would agree with me. And I'll be watching closely. In any case, I want to say thank you to Seraphimblade, for stepping up and doing the right thing. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:04, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding this closure, which diffs showing disruption to article space is the topic ban from GMO's based on? Why did you choose to ignore the feedback given after your closure proposal? Mr Ernie (talk) 18:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

I believe the AE request shows substantial evidence of such disruption, including both the conduct at the request itself and the threats of disruption such as the one in May. I did not, as you assert, "ignore" the feedback, but I am also well aware that no AE result is generally going to be without objection or make everyone happy. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 18:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade, ok, so please pinpoint the diffs then. If there is substantial evidence of disruption to article space you shouldn't have a problem specifying it. Looking forward to the diffs from you, because I couldn't find them myself. Thank you. Mr Ernie (talk) 19:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

No, they're at the request, which you are welcome to read. I am not interested in endlessly arguing over it. If SashiRolls would like to appeal, they should be familiar with the process of doing so. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 20:25, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

As I said, I can't find the diffs of disruption at the AE. I am requesting you specify which diffs you based your sanction on, please. Thank you. Mr Ernie (talk) 20:30, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

The answer was "no", and will remain "no" no matter how many times you repeat the question. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 20:37, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

I don’t want to cite adminacct or anything. It’s a simple request. Admin actions require diffs. Please present them. Thanks. Just noticed you lived in Denver. I have 3 sister in laws there. We go a couple times a year. I always have a really good time. Maybe next time we can grab a beer. Mr Ernie (talk) 21:41, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

ADMINACCT requires I provide a reason. The request provides plenty and I've already said why. That's the answer, and you're not going to get a different one by repeating the question. ADMINACCT requires that I provide an answer, not that I continue providing different ones until there's one to your liking. Appeals come from the sanctioned party; third-party appeals are not considered. If SashiRolls wishes to appeal, they know how. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 22:08, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

I’ve been reviewing the history of this, with a focus on the previous sanctions cited in the AE. I don’t think you looked at those closely, especially those who have been repeatedly involved and why. I have a much lower opinion of you because of all of this. I thought you were a community leader during the FRAM incident, and am saddened to see this downturn. Thanks for the responses earlier. Mr Ernie (talk) 19:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade (thank you again, by the way), could you please take a look at this: [6]? An earlier and different version was just deleted here: [7]. I want to emphasize that all the edits took place before the enactment of the sanction, but on the other hand I have concerns about keeping it now that the sanction is in place, because it is clearly about the GMO topic area, so there is no way the so-called "Wiki suit" could be pursued. I'd hate to open a new AE request so soon, so I hope that it's OK to raise this with you here. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:22, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Tryptofish, will you please let it rest with Sashi? You have commented voluminously at every single noticeboard request concerning them that I've seen. They have no ability to speak back against you now because of the IBAN. You've now aimed your aspersion caster at me too, based on your hatted comments at AE. Enough is enough. Mr Ernie (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Because the "SWAPP" page was originally about me, it's remained on my watchlist. I'm under no restriction, and for the brief time that it was 2-way, I obeyed it scrupulously; every subsequent discussion came to my attention because someone else pinged me. If you think I'm violating something, go ahead and make a complaint about me. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:38, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

As the page does not mention you in that version, it is not a violation of the interaction ban. Since the edits were made prior to the topic ban being enacted, they are not actionable (though of course further ones would be). Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 19:58, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. That makes very good sense to me, and I'll certainly just leave it at that. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:00, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Canary Connect Inc

All I did to Draft:Canary Connect Inc was substitute the submit template that the author, Beermonk34 had already placed but not substed. Apparently the AfC script has me listed as the author, and therefore the person to notify of declines etc. Can we correct that so Beermonk34 is notified in future? DES <sup>(talk)</sup><sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub> 21:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

DESiegel, that script isn't mine, it's the standard AfC one. It looks like it notified you since you subst'ed the "submit" template. I'll check who the script authors/maintainers are and see if the logic behind who receives the notification can be improved; I'm sure that's not the first time some uninvolved party has helped with doing the submission template properly and gotten a notification that should've gone to someone else. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 21:15, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Fizzarotti Palace

Hello! I am confused and disappointed by your deletion of the Fizzarotti Palace page. It was not spam or advertising; the building is of historic import. There is very little information about it in English and I genuinely thought a Wiki page would be useful to architecture students and tourists who might want to visit. Also, I see that you moved the Giosuè Poli page to draft. Can you please reinstate the Fizzarotti Palace page in draft form and direct me to resources to help me improve it? I generated and edited pages several years ago and so am rusty at it, so a little help rather than the guillotine would be appreciated. One final question: there are some resources on both of these topics in the Italian wiki. How does info translate/migrate between wikis in different countries/languages? Thanks! Shannon.wianecki (talk) 09:34, 12 November 2019 (UTC)shannon.wianecki

required disclosures before you continue to edit. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

14:59, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Thanks for your response. Point taken re: promotional language and YouTube not being a reference. Sometimes I am overly effusive. I am not being paid or compensated to edit Wikipedia. I created pages for Fizzarotti Palace and Giosue Poli for because I was having trouble finding any references in English about them. I thought other people might find the pages useful and they might collect new info that I haven’t turned up. I am researching Poli for a future art/history exhibit that may take place at the Fizzarotti Palace, the site of his archive. It’s an unpaid project that I’ve taken on because Poli’s role in the Olympics a fascinating, little known piece of history--as is the palace. Isn’t that the heart of Wikipedia? Sharing information like this? Genuine question: I am not related to the Poli family, though I do know them. Does this constitute a conflict of interest? Also, point of order. Am I supposed to ask questions like this here on your talk page, or somewhere else? Thanks! Shannon.wianecki (talk) 10:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

own research that's not already published in a secondary source, Wikipedia would not be the appropriate first place for it to appear. In any case, I've placed the previous version at Draft:Fizzarotti Palace. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

17:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Got it. Thanks so much. Can you point me in the direction to find answers for my earlier question: there are resources on both of these topics in the Italian wiki. How does info translate/migrate between wikis in different countries/languages? Shannon.wianecki (talk) 11:59, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure what exactly you mean by that. It's possible to translate articles between different projects provided that the required attribution is provided to satisfy the CC-BY-SA license terms (a note in the edit summary of where it came from is fine), but each project has its own rules, so an article that is acceptable on the Italian Wikipedia may not be here, or vice versa. It is the translator's responsibility to ensure that the translated article meets the requirements for an article on the project onto which it is being translated. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 01:28, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Yukeshrbs

Hi Seraphimblade. I see you blocked Yukeshrbs in 2017 for sockpuppetry. I know that was a while ago but twice today a page they created Yukesh Chaudhary has been recreated by seemingly new users. Does their MO seem similar to Yukeshrbs? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:55, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

salt. Hopefully that will keep the lid on it. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

18:40, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt24, never got that one before . RoySmith took care of it but thank you. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:41, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Page deletion

Hello there, I just noticed that you deleted a page titled

talk • contribs

) 21:02, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

reliable sources and avoiding any kind of promotion (including fluff or "talking up"), you're welcome to do that, but advertising, promotion, and fluff pieces are absolutely not permitted here. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

21:09, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade, if that is the case, then the article can be rewrite not deleted. There was no notice to this as it was deleted immediately after it was marked for deletion. If it can be restored, then it can be corrected and have those unreferenced removed. Zubairu Dalhatu 21:14, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Promotional material may be deleted under section

G11 of the speedy deletion criteria, and will remain deleted. Your option is to start a new article free of promotional material or language. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

21:22, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

"Disruptive editing" Re: Patrick Tighe

Please stop undoing my edits to Patrick Tighe's page. I am head of business development at Tighe Architecture and the page has not been updated in some time. If you looked however briefly at the edits I made you would see they are very clearly cited sources, there is no reason for you to keep removing not only the changes I made, let alone all the awards and selected works that already existed on the page as you did. Please stop, it's very annoying to have to keep checking to see if half the page has been deleted or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph Simenc (talk • contribs) 17:31, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding the deletion of the page/Tagdiv

Hi, @Seraphimblade! Can you please undelete the Tagdiv you've deleter under G11? My contribution about this awarded web development company is not spam, nor advertising. If you could restore it as a draft I would like to improve it. I've taken note of the links that I'm not allowed to use :) and I plan to make rewrite the descriptions to be NPOV. I have no affiliation, I'm not paid for the contribution. How do I declare my non-affiliation? I don't have experience with Wikipedia, but I would like to contribute with factual information. Thank you! Pharaonharry (talk) 12:21, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

independent and reliable sources to mention, it's not important enough for us to mention either. If there isn't much of that type of reference material about the company at all, we won't be able to have an article about it. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

19:53, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Rejection of City of Mist RPG Draft

Hello Seraphimblade, You've recently rejected my draft for City of Mist RPG (

Draft:City of Mist ) on the point of promotional content. However, I have made an effort to describe the game in an objective way, avoiding statements about its quality and sticking to a technical description of the game rules, so I'm finding it hard to locate the said promotional language. Could you help me by pointing me to the language that wasn't appropriate for wikipedia? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by McDaire (talk • contribs

)

reliable; "EN World", for example, even calls itself a forum, which is not a reliable source and should be removed. Likely similar for the podcast. So, it's not pure promotion (as above, that'd have been deleted, not just declined), but there's sure enough elements of it there to give me pause. It should read like an encyclopedia article, not a brochure on the game. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

18:38, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Seraphimblade thank you so much for the specific and actionable feedback. I really have no intention of misrepresenting the game here, just to make the facts available. It does helps a lot to have an objective eye. Here's what I've done following your feedback:

- Moved the website link to External Links

- Added Wikilinks wherever possible and reasonable

- Removed the crowdfunding numbers

- Swapped bolding of game terms with italics

- Converted the award section to prose and removed its title

- Removed the EN World and podcast reviews, added another mixed review from a published source (otherwise, published reviews were indeed positive)

- Reduced the volume of text in the gameplay section

There was one issue I couldn't fix: The ENnies are the industry's top award but other publications don't always write about them so a third-party report is hard to come by in my industry. However, I did find a Wiki page on the ENnies, which also mentions the City of Mist awards. Would that be sufficient as reference?

Would this be sufficient? What should be my next step? Thank you.

If you believe it's ready, pressing the button on the template will let you submit it for a new review. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 23:51, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Neon Zombie

There is a request pending at

G11

. I looked at the last version prior to deletion, and it did not seem to me fundamentally promotional. There was some puffery, whoch ought to havbe been edited out, but mostly a mater of adjectives and phrasing. The main content seemed to be factual and NPOV. I did not attempt to verify to sources cited or asses notability beyond a quick look at the text of the article.

I ask that you consider restoring this or giving approval to such restoration. If you respond here, please ping me. Thank you. DES <sup>(talk)</sup><sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub> 23:52, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

DESiegel, looks like fairly standard profile spam to me, but do as you like. If you do choose to, at least get rid of the half dozen social media links. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 00:37, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

DESiegel , :Seraphimblade I wrote the article. It was my first one and I worked on it for several weeks with the help of Wiki admins via the chat. They were fine with it. I have no problem correcting stuff but I would need the article back. All work would be lost and I dunno how get it back so I can work on it. (Filmjunkie137 (talk) 18:50, 27 November 2019 (UTC))

Seraphimblade Or can it at least restored to a draft? What is exactly going to happen now? What is the exact procedure? Some information would be helpful. What is the next step? (Filmjunkie137 (talk) 06:04, 29 November 2019 (UTC))

Filmjunkie137, it has already been moved to draft space: Draft:Neon Zombie. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 20:43, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Recall

You said "since admins open to recall will post the recall procedure on their user page", but I disagree. I was an admin for many years and never recall (!) posting the conditions of recall on my user page. I was, however, open to recall should someone have asked, especially as it should really be something that an admin should respond to rather than ignore three or more times. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 21:52, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, that's interesting and I've never heard of that practice. Were you still in Category:Administrators open to recall? Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 02:48, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

I can't remember, it was a while ago, although I do vaguely remember having that cat on my user page. The one thing I do know is that, as an admin, I would have answered the question, in any circumstance, honestly and openly per

WP:ADMINACCT had it have been asked. Despite the current context, I'm surprised that the admin in question refused to even acknowledge the question, let alone answer it, at least four times. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!

) 21:32, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Quite honestly, I think there was a fair bit of less than optimal conduct in that discussion in general. I would tend to agree that, pointed or not, it would be best to answer the question if asked it. It's not mandatory, so a simple "No, I'm not" would easily suffice to put it to rest. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 21:34, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Well that would have been fine, and would have focussed me onto an Arbcom-based recall process. I wasn't happy with the admins in question making personal attacks and fabricating my motivations, so I asked the question of them a few times. It remains unresolved, and even post-Arbcom, this will need to be revisited, not that it's your problem in any shape. Thanks for the discussion. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 21:39, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hello Seraphimblade, You recently rejected my draft for QI Macros ( Draft:QI Macros ) saying "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject." My major issue with the article being rejected is that other similar SPC Excel add-ins appear to have inferior articles: Analyse-it is not as well written and has far fewer references, NumXL only has 1 reference and it is to their own website, SigmaXL only references journal entries (like a few of of the QI Macros references,) SPC XL barely has an article at all, SUDAAN has literally NO references, and XLfit is also a skeleton of an article. If these articles were approved, why cannot the QI Macros article stand alongside them? PM (talk) 19:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

notability. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

23:49, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Well, it seems you're right about one thing; some of those articles will likely need to be removed as well. But you're correct, most of them are poor and many of them don't seem to have sufficient references. To show notability, reliable and independent sources must cover something in reasonable depth, not just mention or name drop it. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 23:54, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

About Technovate

Please elaborate all reasons why you delete this article. IRoyalYadav (talk) 06:21, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

promotional. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

06:46, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

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Gerda, are you trying to make me feel old? :) Thanks though, nice to periodically get a message that's not complaining about something. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 17:00, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Page pollution

Hayimi (talk) 06:44, 9 December 2019 (UTC) Appealing to the criteria for speedy deletion. See G7. Blocking this would be sheer hypocrisy.

Regarding the deletion of Aaron Minc page

I understand the reason why this page was deleted, however this is someone who has earned press from reputable sources as seen on his Google news- https://www.google.com/search?q=aaron+minc&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS870US870&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwis8aCb3aHmAhWLmlkKHeZaB60Q_AUoAXoECA4QAw&biw=1517&bih=694. If you could restore the page as a draft, I would like to improve it. Thank you very much for your help. Safecontrib22 (talk) 19:18, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

required disclosures before we continue. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

19:53, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

I am not being paid. I heard Aaron Minc on a podcast and noticed that he didn't have a Wikipedia page. I saw that he had a lot of notable press and wanted to create a page for him.Safecontrib22 (talk) 19:54, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Safecontrib22, thanks for clarifying that. It's not the worst I've seen, so I restored to Draft:Aaron Minc. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 22:17, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

I have revised Draft:Aaron Minc to make less promotional and additional sources have been added to the page. Can you please review and let me know if you can accept this?Safecontrib22 (talk) 19:37, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Requesting Reversal of Topic Ban

Hello Seraphimblade. You topic banned me 6 years ago (on any topic related to the Balkans) [8]. I was wondering if it's possible to end that ban. I'd like to think I'd grown up since then :). Cavann <sup>(talk)</sup> 00:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Cavann, you've not edited at all since then. Please first show a pattern of substantial positive editing outside the topic ban area before you request reconsideration. With you not having edited at all, I've got nothing at all to go on. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 03:43, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed, so gave up on Wikipedia. I can stick to one revision at most for a year. Cavann <sup>(talk)</sup> 21:02, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Well, hope you enjoy editing now that you're back. Like I said, after you've edited for a while, ask again and we can certainly consider it at that point. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 22:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

That's quite vague though, so I'm guessing it won't happen. Cavann <sup>(talk)</sup> 22:25, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

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Your editing/message for User talk:BrooklandKendall

I'm a new registered user on Wikipedia. I'm surprised you left me such an aggressive message about possibly banning me. It would have been more appropriate to simply explain the siutaiton and then let me respond. I was under the impression my user sandbox was a place to experiment with editing before posting an article. The sandbox content you chastised me for was later posted as a live article. I'm not spamming Wikiepedia. I'm trying to follow what I though was a legitimate use of my page. I won't repost what was in my sandbox because, like I said, I was just "practicing". — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrooklandKendall (talk • contribs) 23:47, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

BrooklandKendall, while advertising is not permitted anywhere on Wikipedia, including in userspace, that wasn't the primary issue. Rather, the main issue was that you made a few edits to end-run the autoconfirmed requirement, and then placed an advertisement directly into the encyclopedia, at SMA NYC. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 23:50, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't know how to directly respond to your response, so I'm creating a new section.

"you made a few edits to end-run the autoconfirmed requirement"

I don't understand this accusation. What "end-run" did I make? I don't know if English is your first language, but "end-run" is often an accusation that someone intentionally did something to avoid responsibility.

Again, I'd ask you to not be so agressive in your assesment of a new user.

Please explain your point. What end-run did I do to post the article?

I was *not* trying to insert an advertisment. I was doing my best to follow guidelines by providing the citations available to me, and I reviewed multiple other company pages, and felt I was as close as I could be.

If it makes a difference, I am not an employee of the company in question, I'm trying to bring attention to a marketing approach a company I'm familiar with. I'm a software developer and am very familiar with how the practices of private companies sometimes become standards an industry follows. I believe the company whose page I posted has a valid process for their work that could be extended to other disciplines, not just their domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrooklandKendall (talk • contribs) 00:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

neutral. Also, substantial amounts of reliable and independent source material is required, and facts stated in the article must be supported by them. If such sourcing doesn't exist, we should have no article about that subject at all. We would take notice of them after they're already widely known; this isn't the place to "get the word out". Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

01:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

My "Draft:The Thin Gold Line" page

Hello there! Thank you for the work you are doing, I can imagine that is not always easy :)

My draft page "Draft:The Thin Gold Line" has been deleted by you yesterday because of Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Do you think there is a way to make a company wiki page without advertising or promote? Should I delete some "wrong" text? My goal is to say that this brand exist and that their product is the largest hot gold foil stamping realization to date.

Let me know what you think.

In any case can I have back the draft page, even only for few minutes just to copy some text that I need?

Thank you very much for your precious time!

Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamyouaresheis (talk • contribs) 13:23, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

independent sources. If substantial amounts of such reference material do not exist, we should not have an article about the subject. In this case, the sources looked rather like blogs (which are not reliable) and read like reprinted press releases (the first source actually acknowledges such) which are not independent. The article contains a fair bit of marketese, such as use of the meaningless "brand" (is it a product? A company? Then call it that.), and fluffy "talking up" like The Thin Gold Line is also a technical achievement: the art prints being the largest hot gold foil stamping realization to date, printed on the blackest paper in the world. (And such an assertion would need a much more reliable source than what essentially looks like a blog). I don't restore advertisements on-wiki, but if you'd like to have a copy of the deleted text to use elsewhere, I can send it by email. If you'd like me to do that, let me know whether you would like the text as plain text or with wiki markup. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

22:40, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you a lot! Great feedbacks! Yes, could you send me by email the entire wiki html text? Thank you! Iamyouaresheis (talk) 07:42, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Seraphimblade do you already have my email?

Iamyouaresheis (talk) 10:31, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Review of Fizzarotti Palace

Hi! Awhile back you helped move my flagged article Fizarotti Palace to draft. Can you help me again or direct me to where I can find help? Is this new version more suitable? Also, how do I fix the coordinates and image box. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fizzarotti_Palace Thanks so much! Shannon.wianecki (talk) 00:35, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

the teahouse I bet someone will know how to do it. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

01:05, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

producer Malcolm Springer

This page has been vandalized by deletion, according to my research.

Springer has a solid work history in the music industry and is mention in several articles pertaining to Rock 'n' Roll bands and their histories.

If anything, Springer is undercredited, if you judge him only on discography.

Check these two sources:

https://www.discogs.com/artist/429818-Malcolm-Springer

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/malcolm-springer-mn0000561280

Check my work, but I believe this is a good start made up of Collected and Other pertinent information:

Malcolm Springer Malcolm Sibley Springer (born April 2, 1970) is an American mix engineer, record producer, songwriter, arranger, and musician known for his long association with the House of Blues Studios and work with rock artists such as Matchbox 20, Collective Soul, Full Devil Jacket and Fear Factory.[1]

Early Life Born in Hayti, Mo., April 2, 1970, Springer grew up on a Southeast Missouri farm in New Madrid County between Marston, Mo., and Portageville, Mo., and attended Portageville Elementary and Portageville Junior High School and graduated from Portageville High School in 1988.

An all-state high school athlete, Springer played football and ran track as a member of the relay team and for 440 yard events.

Music has been a part of Springer’s life since age 8 when he started piano lessons. “They didn’t last long,” he recalled of the lessons. But Springer continued to develop his abilities on piano as well as on other instruments including guitar and bass.

While Springer only attended Southeast Missouri State University in Cape Girardeau, Mo., for one year, he played double bass for the university’s band during his time there and became a member of the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity.

Music career In 1991, Springer worked for high-end mixing console manufacturer Solid State Logic installing their first “Ultimation” motorized fader automation systems. By 1992, Springer had been promoted/hired as chief engineer at Beale Street Studios in Memphis, Tenn. In 1993, he became chief engineer at the House of Blues Studios in Memphis, Tenn., where he remained until 1996. Springer also worked as a staff engineer at Ocean Way Nashville Studio in Nashville, Tenn., in 1995-1996. In 1996-1997, Springer worked as an assistant engineer and production coordinator for Peter Collins, an English record producer.

Discography[1] Engineer/mixer 1993 – The Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies – The Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies 1994 – The Mother Station – Brand New Bag 1994 – O'Landa Draper – Live ... A Celebration of Praise

1995 – Collective Soul – Collective Soul 1995 – Royal Trux – Thank You 1995 – Joan Armatrading – What's Inside 1995 – Joshua Kadison – Delilah Blue 1995 – Isaac Hays – Branded

1995 – Danny Tate – Nobody's Perfect

1996 – Matchbox 20 – Yourself Or Someone Like You

1996 – Tela – Piece of Mind

1996 – Tela – Twisted

1996 – Ominous Seapods – Jet Smooth Ride

1996 – God Street Wine – Red

1997 – Collective Soul – Disciplined Breakdown

1997 – Claw Hammer – Hold Your Tongue (And Say Apple)

1997 – Andrew Dorff – Hint of Mess

1997 – I Bet – Sunhouse

1997 – I Bet – Grapes

1997 – Calvin Russell – The Story Of Calvin Russell (This Is My Life)

1998 – Emmet Swimming – Big Night Without You

1998 –The Ominous Seapods – Matinee Idols: Late Show

1998 – Bare Jr. – Boo-Tay

2001 – Fear Factory – Digimortal

2002 – Sinch – Sinch

2006 – Eli-Stone – Hard Times

2007 – Matchbox Twenty – Exile On Mainstream

2007 – Nova Red — No Regrets

2010 – Fades Away – Perceptions

2013 – The Sixxis – The Sixxis

Producer 1999 – Full Devil Jacket – A Wax Box 2000 – Mile – Back to the Floor

2000 – Mile – Driving Under Stars

2000 – Wanna Be Martyr – Various - Scream 3 The Album 2000 – Full Devil Jacket – Full Devil Jacket 2000 – Liquid Gang – Sunshine 2000 – Tidewater Grain – Here On The Outside 2000 – Various – MTV: The Return of Rock 2000 – Green Iron Fist – Various - Heavy Metal 2000 Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

2000 – Various – Heavy Metal 2000 FAKK2

2000 – Liquid Gang – 4-Track Sampler

2000 – Green Iron Fist – Various - Heavy Metal 2000

2000 – Various – Scream 3 (Original Soundtrack)

2001 – Mesh – Lowercase

2001 – Spike 1000 – Make Me Suffer

2001 – Spike 1000 – Waste of Skin

2001 – Various – More Music From the Fast and the Furious

2002 – Sinch – Something More

2002 – Sinch – Sinch

2002 – Greenwheel – Soma Holiday

2002 – Shelter – Various - Spider-Man: Music From and Inspired By

2002 – Neuro Girl – Hotwire

2002 – Greenwheel – Breathe

2002 – Various – MTV Road Rules: Don't Make Me Pull This Thing Over, Vol. 1

2004 – Modern Day Zero – Coming Up For Air

2004 – (Intheclear) – (intheclear)

2005 – Modern Day Zero – Coming Up For Air

2005 – In The Clear (2) – Dirty Cheese And the Hoodie Thieves EP

2005 – (Intheclear) – Dirty Cheese And the Hoodie Thieves EP

2006 – Greenwheel – Bridges for Burning

2006 – Cavo (3) – The Painful Art of Letting Go

2007 – (intheclear) – TV Tracks

2009 – Brookroyal – There Was A Time

2013 – Tantric – 37 Channels

2013 – The Sixxis – The Sixxis

Writer/arranger 2000 – Full Devil Jacket – Full Devil Jacket 2001 – Fear Factory – Digimortal 2002 – Greenwheel – Soma Holiday

Musician 2000 – Liquid Gang – Sunshine 2001 – Spike 1000 – Waste of Skin 2002 – Greenwheel – Soma Holiday

References Malcolm Sibley Springer https://www.discogs.com/artist/429818-Malcolm-Springer Malcolm Sibley Springer https://www.allmusic.com/artist/malcolm-springer-mn0000561280 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.232.122.72 (talk) 16:33, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

No, there was no vandalism. The prior "article" on Springer was a spamvertisement, and those are deleted. If you believe you can write an appropriate article about this individual, start a draft. You will need better references than Discogs and Allmusic. If no better references exist, we should not have an article about this subject at all. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 20:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Late to the game, but probably already too closely associated to be the author.

This stuff shouldn't be too hard to track down. Album image by album image liner notes, if all else fails.

FWIW, I was very much about facts during my 17 years as a journalist/editor for The Standard Democrat. I'm not looking to inflate anything.

Best regards,

Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.232.122.72 (talk) 02:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Album liner notes would not be sufficient. What is necessary to establish

independent reference material written about an individual by disinterested third parties. Again, if that does not exist, then we should not have an article about a given subject at all. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

06:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Seraphimblade,

As per Wikipedia's notability page, "The common theme in the notability guidelines is that there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability."

Numerous gold and platinum awards for past projects notwithstanding, here are a few links.

https://vimeo.com/81761761

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr_woDO9Gbc

https://www.semissourian.com/story/1918209.html

Springer is much more notable and significant than several artists he has developed, produced, mixed or recorded that have met the criteria for being notable.

At what point does a producer become "notable"? Because I don't understand the specific criteria.

As a lay person user of Wikipedia who has found it very reliable and a great first step in getting information on a variety of subjects and as a former journalist who used Wikipedia in the same way, I find it frustrating and odd that I can learn about some producers but others are non-clickable links.

Artists, audophiles, entertainment writers are just three off the top of my head who would agree that any producer, mixer, songwriter, arranger that has on several occassions contributed verifiable and credited work on albums selling a million units is worth knowing more about.

Best regards,

Scott who probably should be digging around for his Wikipedia password and doing all of this while logged in. 2600:6C40:2A7F:F61A:A599:D2DA:EB8F:BB9F (talk) 20:15, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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It looks like you've resubmitted it, so it will be reviewed in due course. Sorry, but I don't really have time to take an in-depth look at it right now. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 22:41, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Could you please help review this once again and help provide leads on what's can be done to make it better?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Invisible_Borders_Trans-African_Photographers_Organisation

Thanks a lot. 7ru57 (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

7ru57, with a brief look at it, it looks like the "1st edition..." and so on includes an excess of detail, and the lead of the article certainly should not repeat the organization's "mission" statement, as those are generally promotional. I do not have time to thoroughly look at it right now. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 22:43, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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Maybe

Maybe move that to the RFC's main page? I don't want any 'content' comments to get overlooked by the closing admin(s) just because they're on the talk page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:48, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

WhatamIdoing, I have already made my comments on the RfC's main page. I was responding specifically to your summary. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 20:55, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but your response to my 'meta' comments was a 'content' comment. A direct response to my comment would probably sound more like "I agree (or disagree) that most editors support ____". Instead, you posted your own thoughts on the RFC subject – which is fine, but there is a small risk that it will be overlooked by the closing admins. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:03, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Like I said, I've already made my "content" comments. So thanks for your suggestion, but I'm satisfied with it as is. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 21:15, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

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Dear Seraphimblade, the above page and Vista(event) was deleted due to blatant advertising(deletion criteria G11). Could you please help me understand which sections were causing this issue? Also, could you please have the contents of its last known revision emailed to me?

{This page was deleted under speedy deletion criterion G11, indicating an page that was irredeemably promotional or blatant advertising. Note that G11 deletions are more an issue with the tone of the page as opposed to its sources or formatting. As articles deleted under G11 need to be rewritten from scratch, they will not be undeleted as-is here; try contacting the deleting administrator (Seraphimblade (talk · contribs)). Alternatively, you may request the page be restored as a draft or to have the contents of its last known revision emailed to you provided you have email enabled in your account's preferences. According to the deletion rationale, the page was deleted because it redirected to a blank page due to the page being moved to Vista (event) and then deleted by Seraphimblade (talk · contribs) as blatant advertising. All Fastily did was delete any page that redirected to it, per policy. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Onward to 2020 19:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)}

Jndisha (talk) 03:43, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

required disclosures before we proceed. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

04:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Dear Seraphimblade, I am a part of the organizing committee of the VISTA fest of IIM Bangalore. The team would like to have an article on the fest, which is the annual business fest of the highest-rated college in India.

14.139.157.21 (talk) 04:22, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid Wikipedia is not the appropriate place for an "About us" page. You might consider social media or a website you put together for your event. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 04:48, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

There are several such pages including "Indian Institute of Management Bangalore" and others about organizations and fests- why are these appropriate whereas my request is not? Would love clarification. If you can also tell me which sections seemed "promotional", I could quite certainly edit them and come up with pure information. 14.139.157.21 (talk) 07:46, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

All of it was promotional, and that is why it was deleted. Just starting out in the 2002 event: Mr. Kumar Mangalam Birla (articles should never use "Mr." or the like), attracted a host of corporate sponsors (use a number, not a puff term like "a host"), participation from premier B-Schools (don't use puff terms like "premier"), Three days of action and learning were aided by the synergy of the corporate world (pure marketese and puff), It truly lived up to its theme for the year (according to whom)? All that puffery and inappropriate language was in a single paragraph, and the rest goes on that way. I'm sorry, but we do not permit marketing material, and that answer will remain "no" regardless of how many times you repeat the question. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 20:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your inputs. This has been very helpful. Jndisha (talk) 03:21, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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Proposed article changes

Ok I will do. Also, where should I put them? It is too broad to refer to just one article..... Zarcademan123456 (talk) 02:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Zarcademan123456, you could copy those comments to a userspace subpage for the time being, until you figure out what needs to go where. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 02:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Userspace subpage being what pops up when I click “add discussion” on a talk page, correct? I’m also, do you mind explaining/directing me where to learn about RFC? Thank you for your assistance Zarcademan123456 (talk) 02:30, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

ok

What you proposed there is fine with me. How do I do this RFC thing?? Zarcademan123456 (talk) 02:28, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

If you mean in terms of my comments at AE, please reply there so that others reviewing the matter will see it as well. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 02:29, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Just figured out the warhclodt button is the star!! Zarcademan123456 (talk) 02:31, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for writing

I am sorry please do not delete the article Kinita Kadakia Patel I will fix it and I will improve it, please give me chance to improve it, I have been editing from a long time please give me a chance. (Shubham Ghodke) 10:01, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Dear Seraphimblade please help me with this, I can fix the page please give me a copy of the page, its a humble request, I have been editing for a long time. (Shubham Ghodke) 15:41, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

paid editing disclosures before we proceed at all. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

16:45, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Dear Seraphimblade No one is paying me for such things please don't misunderstand, I agree that I added more pictures this was my mistake, I am curious about my editing account I don't want any strikes on my page, I love creating articles on Wikipedia I like to write that's why I spend time here writing. (Shubham Ghodke) 06:25, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

And about pictures, I personally got them I agree with this thing, but I make sure that I am not getting paid for anything please do not misunderstand. (Shubham Ghodke) 10:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

articles for creation, but it will need to remain entirely free of those issues. (By the way, the above issues were not an exhaustive listing of the problems, only examples of them. The entire article carried on in that promotional, "talking up" tone.) Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

21:18, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Dear Seraphimblade Thanks for understanding me this means a lot to me, so I will create the draft and let you know so please look at it tell me which things will work and which don't, and also you can edit it on my behalf if you wish to, so that I may create the best article if you help me. Thanks again. (Shubham Ghodke) 05:10, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Talk page access

Hi Seraphimblade. Last July you blocked the user Briar Interactive for promotional editing and username violations. They have returned and spammed on their talk page (Special:Diff/945211723). You might want to revoke talk page access - thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:32, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Drm310, thanks for the heads up, and done. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 20:57, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Nominated For Speedy Deletion (Awele Aina Make up artist)Saxfreak 11:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Good day. I noticed that you NOMINATED the article i created Awele Aina (Make up ARtist) for speedy deletion. I'd like to know which aspects of the article was ambiguous or promotional, as i did a lot of research to come up with this article. Would be great to hear from youSaxfreak 11:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saxfreak01 (talk • contribs) Saxfreak 15:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC)--Saxfreak 15:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

reliable sources, not an editor's impressions of them. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

21:05, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Seraphimblade. I Learnt a great deal from your explanation. I'll work on my drafts and get it sorted out. Regards--Saxfreak 12:21, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks. I hadn't even stopped to think it'd been that long, but I suppose it has. Definitely older, maybe even a bit wiser. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup> 23:32, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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Did it again

Regarding your warning here. He's done it again. Brendan Luke Byrne. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:45, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Page deletion without notification

Hi, I have noticed that you deleted the reviewed article that I created, Felix Bast without marking it for deletion first. You have not given me a chance to explain, I find it very rude. The page had already been reviewed and is an informative one. I am sorry, but I fail to understand the reason for this drastic step, I could have modified it in case you want it to be improved. --Iflex (talk) 02:07, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

draft article through AfC, not placing it directly in mainspace. Seraphimblade <sup>Talk to me</sup>

02:26, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

--- I am incorporating all these changes and submitting to

articles for creation once again. I would be humbled if you let me know how can it be further improved.--Iflex (talk) 07:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)--Iflex (talk

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