User talk:Tim riley/Archive-2015

Re: Seeking enlightenment

The {{refbegin}} and {{refend}} templates apply the same formatting as {{reflist}} to other bibliographies or reference lists, one 'opening' and one 'closing'. The Benjamin Disraeli article was already using both, but with refend placed before refbegin, meaning that refbegin was unclosed and therefore applying the reference-style formatting to the rest of the article (including the succession and navigation boxes). The use of these templates is optional and I just placed the corresponding opening and closing template to those already in use. Their use in this article seemed appropriate given the length of the lists (and their use seemed to be the previous intention), hence why I added the 'missing' templates rather that deleting the existing ones. I hope this helps, mattbr 09:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for this. It's only taken me nine years editing Wikipedia to learn it! I shall make sure henceforth to use the templates where appropriate. Tim riley talk 09:55, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Kenneth MacMillan

The article Kenneth MacMillan you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Kenneth MacMillan for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Seattle -- Seattle (talk) 21:21, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 December 2014

GA review

Yes! I have "We'll Never Have to Say Goodbye Again" open if you would like to review it. Thank you. Seattle (talk) 04:08, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I shall most certainly do so. I have promised to look in at the FAC of Shah Rukh Khan, but will put the album next on my to-do list. Tim riley talk 09:22, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of a cheque...

		The Running Man Barnstar
		Thank you for all you have done to help me with the Boat Race articles. Tonight we hit a landmark, over 50% of the race articles are now Good or Featured Articles, which is a monumental achievement considering that none of the articles even existed eight months ago. Thanks again. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:34, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, thank you so much. It is indeed a landmark, and it's really all down to one editor. Wikipedia has cause to be grateful to you. Tim riley talk 10:39, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support collaboration where I find it! - Better sources (than Allmusic) are wanted for my Christmas gift, St. Cecilia Mass, - all help welcome. I couldn't believe there was no article. - Tim, we will sing the Fauré Requiem later this year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Cooper peer review

Hello, Tim. I hope your holidays were pleasant. Today I created a peer review request for the Gary Cooper article that was promoted to GA last month. I spent the past two weeks making additional edits related to GA comments and suggestions. If you have the time, please review the article and leave any feedback at the peer review page in preparation for FAC nomination. Also, can you recommend any other experienced editors who might be interested in participating in this peer review? Regards, Bede735 (talk) 02:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I shall certainly look in, and have done a little (legitimate) drumming up of trade here. Tim riley talk 14:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: 'In the event'

To my embarrassment, English is my first language and I have never encountered that phrase before, at least not knowingly. Is it more commonly known in the UK than the US, perhaps? At any rate, I still dislike it and hold that the English Wikipedia is not the best place for it, as I think it would more often than not confuse people for whom English is not their first language. I won't press the matter further though, since it has no real bearing on the article, and I don't know if anyone else has expressed confusion over it. Thanks for enlightening me! Cyrenaic (talk) 02:22, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Project MUSE

Hello! I apologize for contacting you out of the blue with a request, but Ms.

No apology needed. We're all here to help each other. I think I can view Project Muse material online at the British Library (which is very near my flat) but one isn't allowed to download copies. That is, I can look things up for you, but not send you pdfs of full articles. I suspect this isn't much use to you. But some wise and wily editors are kind enough to watch this talk page, and perhaps one of them may have a more constructive suggestion. Tim riley talk 19:31, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reply! It is a tricky situation for sure. Hopefully someone will know how to access the website, but if not, maybe I can find an alternative method of accessing that journal.-RHM22 (talk) 20:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RHM22, you want that particular article, or just info on the journal? If the former, you can send me an email, I should be able to get a PDF. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:32, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nikkimaria: I was looking for that particular article, but Wehwalt was able to access MUSE and send me a PDF. Thank you for your consideration, though!-RHM22 (talk) 18:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Slyboots, Wehwalt! Bless you! Tim riley talk 18:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you also from me, Tim. DYK ... that Camille Saint-Saëns commented after the premiere of the St. Cecilia Mass' by Charles Gounod that "at first one was dazzled, then charmed, then conquered"? ... that its Sanctus was first performed in England on a 13 January, and the whole thing only four years later? ... that Wikipedia had no article until recently? (couldn't believe that, - help welcome) ... (on a private note) that we will sing Faure's Requiem on November? (The Gounod was Christmas: the angel making a soft announcement over the humming chorus ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 07 January 2015

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 28, 2015

Hi Tim. A summary of a Featured Article you nominated will appear on the Main Page soon. I had to squeeze the text down to a little over 1200 characters; was there anything I left out you'd like to see put back in? - Dank (push to talk) 02:25, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine to me. A top notch job of compression, thank you, Dank. Tim riley talk 19:42, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks kindly. - Dank (push to talk) 20:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This is to inform you that

Hi Tim. Have you ever tried the safari browser and the reader function?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My dear Doctor, I am a dunce at computer technology. Is Safari a web browser like Firefox and Chrome? What are its attractions? Tim riley talk 12:19, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's a web browser. Not quite as ideal as firefox for editing, but for general reading it's excellent. The reader function, makes it look like an actual book encyclopedia when you click "reader" at the top of a page. I love it for reading, I thought of you for some reason and wondered what you'd think of it. All you have to do I think is click download here and you'll spot the icon on your desktop or start menu. Give it a try anyway, it should look like this (not blurry though!).♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:07, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Any luck with safari?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:27, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well it certainly doesn't play the odd tricks that Firefox has started playing on me when editing WP, and I have always hated Internet Exploder (sic), so after a decent trial I may find myself gravitating to it. It doesn't like the laptop I'm using as I type this (a venerable machine) but there are five other computers across the three Riley residences. It was so kind of you to mention it to me - thank you, dear Doctor. Tim riley talk 18:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it's better for reading wikipedia rather than editing wikipedia. I use firefox as I find explorer, chrome and safari annoying when you cut and paste things. If I'm logging out though and browsing I often use the reader function on safari. I think there really ought to be that option built in on here. It is an encyclopædia after all, anything which makes it feel more that way the better. I've long wanted an old medieval parchment paper you'd expect from an encyclopædia from the middle ages as a background graphic option in preferences, I guess I'm rather like you in that I like to be as traditional as possible in my approach to the project. Even now I prefer to look at an old book encyclopedia than a web page!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And if you call for a song of the sea...

...we'll pass the Capstans round. I'm off on my travels tomorrow, but I've managed to get my story of nautical shenanagins, aka

It will be my privilege and pleasure. Bon voyage, dear Brian! Tim riley talk 21:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 14 January 2015

Erasmus Prize

Congratulations on our Erasmus Prize! [1] -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:56, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

About time we were recognised too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:07, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know, I was quite moved to read that. It does make one feel that all our labours are worthwhile. I know one Wikipedian who is a professional writer in real life and has not so far felt comfortable coming out to his colleagues as a WP contributor. Thanks to Erasmus of Rotterdam for changing the climate rather a bit. Tim riley talk 20:18, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Disraeli

Why, please, did you revert my minor wording change in Benjamin Disraeli? ... Never mind; I just saw your comment in the wikicode. I understand. This British usage is new to me. --Thnidu (talk) 08:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Tillman

I've just laid this article on peer review. It is easy reading, about a pleasant, unobjectionable character well beloved in American History ... oh wait, that's the other guy. Sorry. Would appreciate your comments, though.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:50, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am intrigued, and will certainly look in. I've just been peer reviewing another eminent American, Gary Cooper, which you might well enjoy looking in at, if you have time. Tim riley talk 12:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good God! I've just glanced at the Tillman article. What a stinker! I'll put a clothes-peg on my nose and read on. Tim riley talk 12:38, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that. Yes, I'm afraid Tillman will have a place in my Hall of Shame. I will look at Cooper but it probably won't be until after the weekend. Trying to tidy up loose ends and all that.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:18, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Hensley Henson

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article

criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 16:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply

Your GA nomination of Hensley Henson

The article

Hi Tim. I am a bit stuck on Hermeneutic style. An expert has promised to look at it, but at present he does not have time. If he does, I will no doubt make major amendments, so it seems premature to take it to PR. However, I came across an article I created years ago about an eccentric theory concerning the Ancestry of the Godwins, which seemed possible FA material, so I have put some work in improving it and taken it to PR at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ancestry of the Godwins/archive1. Your critical eye would be most welcome. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:29, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delighted to do so, though I have to review Wehwalt's amazingly odious Benjamin Tillman first. Does Laurence Olivier interest you at all? SchroCat and I have him up for PR if you're inclined to look in, but absolutely no obligation, naturally. Shall report back on the Godwins PR a.s.a.p. – Tim riley talk 20:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will have a look. Dudley Miles (talk) 22:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Hensley Henson

The article Hensley Henson you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hensley Henson for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 14:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A very interesting read. It may not make it to the front page as TFA, but it has the consolation prize of a place at

Bencherlite^Talk 14:59, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply

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What very gratifying messages to get! Thank you,

Bencherlite, for that news of the Oxford portal, which gives me idées au-dessus de ma gare. Tim riley talk 18:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Hi Tim, I think that setting back the edit of Rose Leclercq has the feel of you saying "this is mine and I like it this way". Am I wrong to take that view? I would have expected some explanation. I was hoping to do some work on this family, but I have just gone off the idea. Can you explain yourself? Victuallers (talk) 16:36, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I know that info-box aficionados get protective about their additions, but boxes that pretty much just duplicate the lead are no help to our readers (who should always be our first concern). I am a great fan of boxes where they add value. For e.g. cricketers, bishops, politicians with lots of stats/offices they are really helpful, but not when they take up prime space repeating what's already easily read. There was an instructive exchange on this very point here recently. But if you think a box would for some reason be helpful here by all means raise on the article talk page and I'll gladly, or at any rate, uncomplainingly, go with the consensus. Tim riley talk 18:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion. I intend to raise this issue on the talk page as you suggest as I think this is a marginal issue, bit iboxes drive wikidata and some people appreciate the information being in a defined format. I suggest that is one of the appeals to our readers. Frequently they could read the information on the internet somewhere, but not in a repeated layout. As you know, talk pages do not get much attention so I will add the ibox to ensure that those who object are aware of this needless? duplication. I will be intrigued to see who arrives on the talk page. In this case I created the ibox so that I could create an article for her sister which I was preparing - that is why I created the red link and an ibox for the article I was going to make.. Your very quick reversion with no explanation in the edit box (that I understood) prevented me from doing as I intended. Can I suggest that the reversion could have been better studied before you pressed the revert button?? You left no time to find out why a red link had been introduced - did you see it? Or was that IYO another needless addition?? I think you assumed that some "info-box aficionados" were targeting your? article. That is not the case, I don't feel very strongly about having iboxes in articles. I can cope with them being there or them not being there. I do object to this argument interfering with my contributions to this project. A reversion after 10 minutes does not show much consideration for other editors. I think you should have studied what was being done and what was happening before acting. I will copy this conversation to the talk page so that your point of view can be seen too. Hope this in line with your suggestion. Victuallers (talk) 19:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:Today's featured article/February 7, 2015

Your name has been invoked

Gerda now suggests "the Bach scholar". That's preferable to "musicologist" I think. - Dank (push to talk) 16:06, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd go with "Bach scholar" - it's correct and self-explanatory: just what's wanted, I'd say. Tim riley talk 17:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. - Dank (push to talk) 17:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Next person, this time from your table James Bates, sad, I will start, feel free to add, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Younger than me, by a few months. Requiescat! Tim riley talk 21:44, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, I've added a tiny bit on the Bates article talk page (not wishing to muck up your referencing style with my own efforts) but I'm afraid it doesn't amount to much. Tim riley talk 11:47, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

and TFA today, RR,

Just a quick note to say thanks for reviewing Mortimer Wheeler; it is much appreciated! Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 11:58, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was genuinely a pleasure. I hope you will consider taking it to peer review and then to FAC. Tim riley talk 13:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Girl Pat

Would you mind briefly revisiting the peer review, to comment on an issue raised by SchroCat concerning the most appropriate title for this article? I'd be most obliged for your wisdom. Brianboulton (talk) 23:14, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Bramshill House

Good evening. Many thanks for your valuable input into the peer review. The article is now at FAC. All further comments and input will be much appreciated, cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:30, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The name's Cat... SchroCat....

Many thanks for your recent thoughts and comments at the informal PR for Casino Royale (novel): The changes you suggested have been taken on board and implemented, and the article is much, much stronger than it was before. As such, I've gone ahead and opened the FAC, and I hope you will have time to have another look through at some point in the future. Thanks again. – SchroCat (talk) 12:16, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Reread with pleasure and duly commented on at the FAC. If you have time and disposition you might like to look in at the peer review of Rafael Carrera. I looked in on spec and was impressed, as I often am, at the skill with which editors whose native language is not English write for EnWiki. I've copy-edited a bit, but I think this worthy cause would benefit from your attention (and that of anyone else kind enough to watch this here page). Tim riley talk 16:18, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks as always - and I'll be along to Carrera shortly. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 16:02, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Getting in on the act

I have consigned my little

Done, with the greatest delight. It was particularly pleasing to be able to wax enthusiastic, having earlier today turned down one GAN and damn' nearly shot down another. Though I have the pleasure of basking in the reflected glory of promoting Magna Carta to GA yesterday, which is something any Englishman must feel proud to have done. I'm hoping the article's editors will take it to PR and FAC, and I shan't scruple to drum up trade for it, if so. You have been warned. Tim riley talk 17:44, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a quite delightful story! The Spanish Civil War later story certainly adds an air of mystery to the whole affair.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:13, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A much more pleasant character

If I may ask a further favor, Horace Greeley is lagging rather at FAC. If you have a spare moment, could you look in? I assure you that Greeley held the highest principles and was second to none in his regard for those of other races. Really.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:16, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done, with pleasure. A most engaging person, despite his tendency to vegetarianism. Tim riley talk 09:11, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Shah Rukh Khan peer review

I have put this article up for peer review again, since it failed FAC. Please have look at Wikipedia:Peer review/Shah Rukh Khan/archive2, and comment if there is any reason that it would not gain your support next time. Thanks, BollyJeff | talk 15:15, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put it on my to-do list. Tim riley talk 08:32, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And now done. Tim riley talk 18:57, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. May I ping you when it goes to FAC again? BollyJeff | talk 19:37, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly. Tim riley talk 20:59, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Shepseskare GAN

Hello Tim Riley, since after your review of Neferhotep I you proposed that I ping you in case I have another GAN, I am writing you to let you know that I have put up a new GAN article: Shepseskare. It would be my pleasure if you were interested in reviewing it. Iry-Hor (talk) 22:08, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I shall certainly look in, probably later today. Tim riley talk 08:32, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And have now done so. GAN page opened, with a few minor comments from me. Tim riley talk 18:25, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A fine article, and a pleasure to review. Tim riley talk 16:59, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Gary Cooper at FAC

Thank you again for your time and feedback during the GA and PR reviews of the Gary Cooper article. Throwing caution to the wind, I nominated the article as a featured article candidate. I would very much appreciate one last review and assessment when you have the time. By the way, I read the Olivier article, and I think you and SchroCat did an excellent job—a subject worthy of the effort. Regards, Bede735 (talk) 14:36, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done, with pleasure. Thank you for your kind comments about Olivier. We have him at FAC now, and I'm pleased to see Cooper also there. Tim riley talk 18:57, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hermeneutic style

Hi Tim. I have taken Hermeneutic style to Wikipedia:Peer review/Hermeneutic style/archive1. Your critical eye over it gratefully received. Dudley Miles (talk) 15:12, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With the greatest of pleasure. I always enjoy reviewing your articles: I learn so many interesting things. Tim riley talk 15:33, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And now done. A most pleasing way of spending an hour of a February afternoon. Tim riley talk 16:57, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Eccentric editing

I happened upon the topic of

Gosh! Not one I'd run across. I'll gladly look in. Tim riley talk 16:56, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Shepseskare FAC

Hello! This is to let you know that I have put up Shepseskare as FAC, see here. Iry-Hor (talk) 18:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article nomination for Serralves

Hello, Tim. Thank you very much for your revision on Serralves. Far from discouraging me, your comments cast some light I needed to go on contributing to improve the article in the right direction. I was very naïf and certainly needed some guidance like yours. I really appreciate your help. When improved, I will submit the article for your peer review, if you please. Thank you very much indeed. Caravasar | talk — Preceding undated comment added 17:02, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I have opened the peer review for the film. Please do suggest any changes that I should make before I go for FAC. — Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 04:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In your 3rd comment about the "in order to" sentence, can you specify which sections have that sentence so that I can change them? — Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 07:04, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Much the easiest way is to press Ctrl and F, and type in the phrase in the search box that appears. Always works, I find. Tim riley talk 19:06, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For all the excellent work you did on Larry Oliver! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 22:30, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An award for you!

	The Actors and Filmmakers Award of Excellence
	For your work in promoting one of the goliaths of the acting world, Sir Laurence Olivier to Featured Article status. A mighty achievement to be proud of! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply ]

That's very gratifying. Thank you so much Doc! Tim riley talk 20:10, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Precious again

Royal opera
Thank you for the London opera, another great article with dedication to details about the people behind an institution, - you are an

awesome Wikipedian

!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:28, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Three years ago, you were the twentieth recipient of my

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Thank you very much, Gerda. I made a rod for my own back in writing up the Royal Opera and English National Opera, because one has an implied obligation to keep them up to date, with details of new productions. There are worse fates. Tim riley talk 13:31, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Applause! What do you think of latest statement in a production that needs no repetition? - I forgot, did you ever read the poem "letting go of the past" (by Poeticbent, mentioning precious a few times)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have only just had my attention drawn – too late – to the fact that the jehadis (and, to be fair, some otherwise perfectly sensible fellow-travellers) have forced an idiot-box on Chopin's article, the only one of the 27 FAs on classical composers to be disfigured by one. I shall seek the removal of this lamentable excrescence, which makes Wikipedia look amateurish, quite unnecessarily. Tim riley talk 13:50, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

		The Half Barnstar
		To you for bringing Laurence Olivier to FA status. The other one's for Schrocat. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That is most kind, thank you! Tim riley talk 19:22, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A load of old Bazalgettes!

Dear Tim, Yet another request for PR help, I'm afraid, although this one comes with an ready-made opportunity for a pun or two while comparing the subject matter to the content and prose! It concerns the Great Stink, a relatively brief event in London history that has had a beneficial effect that we all enjoy to this day. The PR can be found here, if you have the time to spare. If you don't, no worries! Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 23:19, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I'll have time! Delighted to look in, probably tomorrow. Tim riley talk 23:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! First of all many congratulations on Laurence Olivier for getting it to FA status! May I invite you to review Kareena Kapoor Khan filmography and comment at its FLC. If this message is annoying you, feel free to remove or ignore this message. --FrankBoy _(Buzz) 18:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments. You have abstained from supporting as you have no knowledge about the list. Understandable and thank you for commenting despite that. I was wondering if you could do strikeout in your comments (which you feel have been resolved) so that it should be easy for me to know whether or not I have resolved your comments. --FrankBoy _(Buzz) 15:35, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With pleasure. I'll do it immediately. All is absolutely fine as far as I'm concerned. Tim riley talk 15:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 13, 2015

Hi Tim. A summary of a Featured Article you nominated at

WP:FAC will appear on the Main Page soon. Does the article need more work before its day on the Main Page? I had to squeeze the summary down to around 1200 characters; was there anything I left out you'd like to see put back in? - Dank (push to talk) 00:46, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply

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It is a model of compression, and I've nothing to add except to suggest we switch round "Lake District" and "English Lake District" to have the longer (and linked) term appearing first. I hate writing leads, and how you manage to boil articles down even further for every day of the year is quite beyond me – but more power to your elbow. – Tim riley talk 07:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks kindly Tim, I needed that. Now I need your help on something else. I changed "story-teller" to "storyteller" in your lead, and you reverted with "the OED and Chambers both hyphenate the word". I'm involved in a, let's say, serious discussion over how much energy I should put into keeping TFA paragraphs and article leads in sync, and by extension how much time I should spend copyediting article leads before TFA day, and how forcefully I should argue my case when I'm reverted. Normally I wouldn't argue this point, but let's use it as a test case. My 6th ed.

SOED says "storyteller", as do Cambridge Dictionaries, Oxford Dictionaries, and all the AmEng dictionaries. Compound words can easily exist in all 3 forms (hyphen, separate, closed up) for a while, but generally, when the closed-up form starts to dominate, it tends to displace the other two. I don't have Chambers ... I understand it's fun and charming, but I'd not sure I'd go with that if others are going a different way (but don't get me wrong, I'm aware I don't speak or read British English, I just observe from afar). So, first question: how do you feel now about "storyteller"? - Dank (push to talk) 00:07, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Well we certainly won't fall out over it, and "storyteller" isn't actually abhorrent to me, though the hyphen feels more natural. As to the full OED, one is, as an Englishman, inclined to swank at having a dictionary unmatched in any other language, but it has its quirks. It has only fairly recently accepted that the Bard of Avon's surname is "Shakespeare" rather than "Shakespere". And in the teeth of usage throughout its native land it insists on "civilize" "apologize" etc, for which these past 400 years the rest of us have sided with Kent in King Lear: "Thou whoreson zed! thou unnecessary letter!" Chambers's (Scottish, not English – credit where it's due) is a joy, with sly definitions such as "Middle aged – between youth and old age, variously reckoned to suit the reckoner" and "a priori – the term applied to reasoning from pre-existing knowledge, or even cherished prejudices". But most oddly, there is, now I look into it, a difference between Chambers's online ("story-teller") and printed ("storyteller") versions. So I think the conclusion must be that though I shall go on hyphenating the word while there is breath in my body, I cannot object to the excision of the hyphen in an encyclopaedia meant for international use. And please bear in mind, whatever lexical quibbles I throw at you, my admiration for your daily summaries is prodigious. None of which answers your question about how much energy you should spend on striving for consistency in the face of possessive editors. From the sidelines, I'd say the WP community has appointed you and your colleagues to deal with TFAs on our behalf, and you should feel Licensed to Tweak. I shall, of course, still complain, but tweak on, dear Dank, and ignore the background noise. – Tim riley talk 00:53, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My new business card: Dank2007, Licensed to Tweak. Your support means a lot to me. - Dank (push to talk) 03:34, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. The character count on this one is 1296, but Bench recently said that that might be causing problems at ITN. I'm not sure about this, but I've agreed to keep it at no more than 1250 for now. Can you find 46 characters to cut? - Dank (push to talk) 19:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd just knock off ", and played a cameo in the 1935 version of David Copperfield", which will blitz 47 characters. The information, though pleasing, is not central to the narrative. (What, by the bye, is ITN?) Tim riley talk 19:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC) (Afterthought: it might read more smoothly if you swap the 1930s Hollywood sentence and the First World War one the other way about.) Tim riley talk 19:18, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks. ITN= In the news; the number of stories they can run is constrained to some extent by how long my column is. - Dank (push to talk) 19:22, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hermeneutic style

I have now added a couple of images to make it more visually appealing and nominated for FAC. Thanks. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:01, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tillman

Sorry to be so slow about completing my review of your fine musical article, which I shall finish shortly. Could I ask you to revisit the Tillman FAC? A reviewer has expressed certain concerns.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:31, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2015

The Tower House

Bramshill House passed FAC, thankyou for your input. I've opened a peer review for William Burges's The Tower House. Comments will be most welcome. Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:07, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Richard Party-Popper-Puller" - what a way to describe Burges' brother-in-law. Many thanks for your peer comments, which I'll pick up. The Dr. and I shall do such things at Castell Coch that it will knock your classicist socks off. KJP1 (talk) 07:31, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're getting off lightly. I was going to refer to him as Popperswill-Pullem, but thought that was a bit 1990s and unseemly to boot, though you're too young to know why. Tim riley talk 19:15, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Celeste

Yet more claims on your time: the Ghost Ship awaits comments at PR. I'd be very glad if you'd visit. Brianboulton (talk) 21:19, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done, with great pleasure. A very enjoyable claim on one's time. Tim riley talk 13:03, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Uncle Paul

Hello Tim, thank you for the expeditious GA review and the very kind words. I have started a peer review for Oom Paul here and look forward to hearing the quibbles you mentioned if/when you find the time. Cheers and I hope you are well. —  Cliftonian (talk)  12:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. I see you have booby-trapped the peer review page to oblige me to put money where mouth is in re pruning the length. More anon. Tim riley talk

I'm sorry, I didn't mean it in that way. It's just that since Kruger entered public life before he was 20 (and a lot of pertinent things happened to him before then) and remained in the spotlight until he died six decades later, it's hard to find places where cuts could be made without losing important details. This article is a few hundred words longer than the Smith one. —  Cliftonian (talk)  13:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Only teasing! I'll be there. Tim riley talk 13:23, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

=) —  Cliftonian (talk)  13:24, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Ritz London Hotel

Hi, thought this might interest you as a Coward buff I believe. It's still in rough stages of development.. Do you have anything in your books to verify what is written and anything further? I'd guess it went beyond the 1930s..♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

At a swift glance I'd say all the Coward stuff is irrelevant and should be blitzed. It has nothing to do with the Ritz except that Arlen gave him a cheque there – so what! The Irving Berlin reference at the end is incorrect and should also be blitzed. The title is weird: why not "Ritz Hotel, London"? I'm on my way out now, but will look in later. Tim riley talk 17:48, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel book and articles though tend to discuss luminaries in their history in quite some detail. Most of my hotel articles in fact cover that sort of thing. I think he's worth mentioning but not in as much detail perhaps. The authors of the book on the Ritz thought it notable enough to write four pages on it so., The Ritz London is the official name I think, no Hotel in it. "The" is definitely before Ritz in most sources. In looking in google books I think The Ritz Hotel, London seems to be a common way of wording it, and there's a book on it with that title, I'll move it to that. Do you mean Puttin' On the Ritz? I didn't add that, that was there before, but the article on it states that it was named after the Ritz London. Do you have a source to prove otherwise? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore my hasty comments, above. I'll ponder more thoroughly tomorrow. I'm certainly happy to participate in upgrading the page. Tim riley talk 21:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hotels are tricky things to write as the vast majority of the books really are celebrity/royalty anecdotes rather than a concrete history of the hotels, I suppose the authors believe the luminaries to be the history of the hotel and I agree with them in part, but there needs to be a more even balance in the encyclopedia articles I think. Coverage is interspersed usually with mention of old managers and minor details on its room in which you have to try to glean what is relevant. A lot of the info is really trivial. To start with I'm just going to go through the books and try to glean decent material from them. I then usually try to find more on the technical details and architecture in other sources. As I do that some parts will probably read as a bit trivial, but after writing it we can decide what to remove I think. I do think the coverage of Coward and the Ritz in the book at least makes him worthy of mentioning, I will try to see if I can find something to make it more relevant to the hotel itself though if I can.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:19, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Any luck with finding content on the Ritz? Good to see BTW that at least some editors are respectful [2]. I wasn't aware of the Porter article, should be taken to FAC at some point.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:30, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I have opened the FAC for Enthiran. Feel free to leave comments. — Ssven2 ^{Speak 2 me} 14:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Review request

Hello! We haven't met, but I noticed that you are a respected and active reviewer and writer of high-quality content. I wondered if you might be interested in helping me with an article I wrote that is now at peer review: Wikipedia:Peer review/Irataba/archive1. It's about a Mohave Chief who was quite an interesting character. The FAC was recently closed due to issues with the prose, but since I am about the only person who has edited the page it's getting more difficult for me to find and resolve problems. I'd be appreciative if you took a look, but I understand if you are too busy or uninterested. Thanks! Rationalobserver (talk) 20:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to look in. Topics that are out of the ordinary can certainly suffer undeserved neglect at GAN and FAC. I shall read the article tomorrow, I hope, and comment on the PR page. Tim riley talk 20:59, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's great! Thank you so much! Rationalobserver (talk) 21:02, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes

Atttention talk page stalkers. It's not quite perfect but if you copy the contents of this into your User:Tim riley/common.css and save you should be able to hide the infoboxes in most biographies with just a photo in place. I've not yet solved the issue of how to rid of the box outline around it, but on my own screen hiding the silly trivia and redundant content in them is a considerable improvement. Obviously this won't change our outlook on the enforcement of infoboxes in articles we've got to FA and the wider issue of them often making wikipedia look less professional and trivial, but at least in our own eyes it is better to not see them in biographies. If you could all give it a try in your User@xxx/common.css see if it is an improvement. Hope this helps.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SchroCat Give it a try and look at Peter Sellers, no identibox!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:48, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The problem I would have with it is twofold: 1. There are infoboxes that are good and beneficial, and I wouldn't want to miss the career stats on, for example Jason Leonard's page (although where he went to school, etc, means so little that I could happily give that a miss!); 2. I think it's a possible way to miss IB bloating both on watchlisted, but especially non-watchlisted articles. There are several times that I've been on a page, been appalled by the sheer weight of mind-numbing, dumbed-down, out-of-context, misleading and plain incorrect rubbish in there, that I've taken pruning shears to it immediately. I've left the IB in place, but just taken out the dross. I'm not sure I'd be happy not being able to check that the IB is being used for its correct purpose if I can't see it properly. – SchroCat (talk) 11:55, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your loss! I don't have to see the darn things in regular biographies like actors anymore! The infobox suppression BTW doesn't seem to have worked for Jason Leonard, I can see the full thing. Doesn't work for footballers either. In those articles they're actually useful. I'd just assume by default that most infoboxes in arts biographies are redundant and that they have an infobox...♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is fine work, Doctor, and I shall enjoy experimenting. Bless you! Tim riley talk 19:54, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment

Hello there! Could I trouble you with your opinion in a notability matter? Thank you, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 13:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to look in, probably tomorrow. Tim riley talk 19:54, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So done, but not very usefully, I'm sorry to say. There just seems to be nothing in British sources. Tim riley talk 16:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. It's sad how real culture is often underrepresented. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:46, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mary, Mary (not Marie)

Mary Celeste is now at FAC. Please look if you have time. Brianboulton (talk) 00:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done (and it was a pleasure to re-read this intriguing article). Tim riley talk 16:48, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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1804 dollar

Hello, Mr. RileyTim. I'm sorry to bother you with a(nother) request, but I wonder if you could please take a look at the FAC for 1804 dollar, if you don't find the subject matter too dull. It seems to have gotten little interest since I nominated it. I know that reviews aren't strictly QPQ, but please do feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have something that needs reviewing.-RHM22 (talk) 05:29, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How are you on grumpy 19th-century French composers? Not to everyone's taste, but all welcome if the topic appeals. I'll gladly look in at the 1804 dollar article, though as I see Wehwalt, numismatic maestro extraordinaire, has been there I don't foresee my having much to add. More soonest. Tim riley talk 10:36, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I was going to give Saint-Saëns a look, but I wasn't sure if you needed anyone else over there. I would be happy to look it over! It seems very interesting. Regarding your second point, Wehwalt and I have said that it's better to get some non-numismatist eyes on the articles to make sure they aren't bogged down with technical language and things like that. At my last FAC, I had to be reminded that not everyone knows what 'denticles' are.-RHM22 (talk) 13:18, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it looks like it was just promoted! Sorry about that. I went to leave a support, only to be surprised by the closing note! I do have one small nitpick: The first sentence in the lede doesn't use the Oxford comma, but it's used throughout the article, so I'm sure that's what you intended. Do you have anything else needing review?-RHM22 (talk) 19:32, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I noticed a few other instances, so I'm not sure which is your preference.-RHM22 (talk) 19:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the talk page barrage, but here's a clickable image which you can use if you'd like.-RHM22 (talk) 20:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How very kind! What a pleasing message message to get – thank you! Tim riley talk 21:03, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, Tim, on yesterday's TFA. I enjoyed reading the article this morning. Bede735 (talk) 18:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As gushed to you earlier Tim, much congrats. Oh, this was for TFA! Well, in that case, double congrats for Camille! Cassianto^Talk 18:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bless you, young man! Nice for us ancients to have the approval of the next generation! Tim riley talk 18:50, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Tower House

Thankyou for your input into the peer review. The article is now at FAC. Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:09, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim - really appreciate your input and your continued watching brief. Was very impressed by Hugh Walpole, another beautiful article. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 22:43, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Off to sleep now, but shall resume FAC read-through tomorrow. Brace yourself for a few queries and quibbles. Tim riley talk 22:56, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim, help! "a little beetle on the wall or something like that, it's Burges's attention to detail that is so fascinating": that's a comma splice, which I think is safe to fix even in a quotation. What on earth is a "comma splice"? KJP1 (talk) 17:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) A comma splice is the use of a comma to join together two independent statements. Blame journalists... Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 18:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As I was about to say (rather more long-windedly than SchroCat, to whom cordial greetings) it is the use, not to be encouraged, of a comma to join together two separate clauses instead of doing it properly with a conjunction or an adequately strong punctuation mark such as a semicolon. Thus: "It was wet, I came in" is a comma splice, when you want "It was wet; I came in or "It was wet and I came in". The Manual of Style gives us licence to amend minor errors of punctuation like this, and though the splice doesn't bother me in this context (the chap's a guitar player and not

Fowler, after all), you could replace it with a colon or semicolon if you wanted to. Thus: "I was still finding things 20 years after being there – a little beetle on the wall or something like that: it's Burges's attention to detail that is so fascinating." or "I was still finding things 20 years after being there – a little beetle on the wall or something like that; it's Burges's attention to detail that is so fascinating." Tim riley talk 18:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Many thanks, both. It's been done. But now I need more help. Curly Turkey would like a footnote explaining Burges's most famous joke, the "dropped H". I've never done footnotes, nor am I sure how I would explain it for the benefit of foreign readers. Would "'enry 'iggins's 'urricanes" 'elp? KJP1 (talk) 07:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Phonological history of English fricatives and affricates#H-dropping may help with the wording - and I'd certainly add the link, however you deal with it. I can swing by shortly to add a brief note to give you an idea of the format, and you can tweak the wording to your preference later. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 08:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply

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How about: Footnote: In Burges's time a "dropped aitch" – as in 'Enry 'Iggins – was socially taboo. To verify the statement you could cite this from "A Plea for Aitch-Droppers" in The Pall Mall Gazette, 6 April 1870, p. 6: "…aitch-dropping is no modern Cockney vulgarism, but has the sanction of 'hoar antiquity'." I see you are a devotee of sfn and efn citations, and someone else – ah, I see SchroCat will lend a paw – will help you with the method of adding an explanatory footnote. I still use the quill pen technique. Tim riley talk 08:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stephanus Johannes Paulus

Hello Tim—this is just a note to let you know that Uncle Paul is now at FAC here. Hope you're well, cheers for all your help thus far. —  Cliftonian (talk)  13:10, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. No hardship to give the page a third reading: a fine piece of work. Tim riley talk 15:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Baie dankie meneer —  Cliftonian (talk)  16:14, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unas

Hello, this is to let you know that Unas (another 5th Dynasty Egyptian pharaoh) is now a GA candidate (and hopefully next onto FAC). I would be most grateful if you accepted to review it, or otherwise, if you could point another user to me for a possible review. This would greatly shorten the (usually) very long wait between GA nomination and review. Note this article received around 40,000 visits/year. Iry-Hor (talk) 14:05, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be glad to look in, and will review unless someone else beats me to it. Tim riley talk 15:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, that's a great help! Iry-Hor (talk) 20:26, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Riley

Excuse Mr. Riley,

I have been working on the Stephen Sondheim page for some years now, and I would truly love some input on how to improve the page. (we corresponded about four years ago on a peer review for this page). I would love to get pictures on the page, and the pages that are featured/good articles all have a great array of photos. I would truly appreciate some, or any help in this matter.

Thank You Phaeton23 (talk) 16:15, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll certainly look in, though it isn't my area of expertise. My to-do list is long, and this may take me a while to fit in. There are two or three editors with whom I regularly work on Wikipedia articles who know much more about Sondheim than I do, and I'll see if I can interest them in looking in too. (And thank you for the courteous "Mr Riley", but I'm "Tim" to my friends and pretty much everybody else.) Tim riley talk 20:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Phaeton23:I am leaving a few comments and suggestions on your talk page. Feel free to ask for further comment, if wanted. Tim riley talk 09:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Tim! I cannot thank you enough for the input! If you could pass the word to your Sondheimian friends, that be greatly appreciated! Thanks a million Tim! Phaeton23 (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret Bondfield

Last year you kindly contributed to the above article's peer review or or FAC or both. An issue has arisen from yesterday's TFA appearance, and is under discussion on the article's talk. Briefly: an editor added into the text the cited information that Bondfield's was privately known as "Maggie", and then incorporated this into the lead so the subject appeared as Margaret Grace ("Maggie") Bondfield. I have removed the nickname from the lead, and stated my position on the talkpage. I would be pleased if you could visit and briefly comment there. Brianboulton (talk) 16:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday

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With my two glamorous assistants how could I go wrong! Thank you, Jonathan for oiling the wheels and keeping me on the straight-and-narrow so unobtrusively. I should send a pubic thank you to your manger (a remark calculated to astonish any talk page stalkers, but wholly apropos, as we know!) Tim riley talk 22:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(watching the dance) should I learn "pubic thank you" or is that internal? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Be off with you, Gerda! This allusion to typographic errors corrected en masse by WereSpielChequers is no place for respectable lady choristers! (We were in the chorus rehearsal room in the Royal Opera House for our editathon yesterday. Very finely adjusted acoustics, methinks: you'd have liked it.) Tim riley talk 22:08, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On with you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Attended to, and thank you, Gerda. I am not much of a hand at DYKs, so am grateful. Tim riley talk 23:07, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you are the expert in infoboxes, I saw that War Requiem has on for Album, but not for musical composition, could you change that? (Did you know that a friend played in the premiere?) Example pictured, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't there something to do with Charlie Chaplin at the event Tim?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:33, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Mind Meld

Hi Tim,

I hope 2015 has been going well for you. I have started a new FAC here for an article called Mind Meld. Considering that I have appreciated your input into my previous FACs, I thought that I would ask if you have time to participate in this one. I would be glad for any constructive comments you are willing to provide.

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Please forgive me if I pass on this one. I am committed to rather a lot of articles at the moment, and on this particular topic I don't think I have much to offer. Tim riley talk 14:00, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Walpole

Re 'His first novel to achieve real success was his third...'. I note that you reverted my substitution of 'commercial' for 'real', which is not an encyclopedic word, and not a very meaningful one in any context. Valetude (talk) 14:33, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Commercial" would be misleading. The book made modest sums, but more importantly it attracted notice and favourable reviews, established HW as an author to watch, and was, well, his first real success. One could say "genuine" or "all-round", or one could even dispense with an adjective altogether here, but I think the short "real" is preferable, and none of the distinguished peer reviewers or FAC reviewers expressed the view that it was unencyclopaedic. But I am grateful for your interest and contribution. Tim riley talk 15:55, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On toe

Thank you for Onegin, - I wonder if you could start a stub on Cranko's Turn of the Shrew, to fit in here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ps: while that should be soon, a long-term plan is GA for Fauré's Requiem, by November, hopefully with you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, I didn't know ballet was an interest of yours. I'll gladly run you up a stub for Cranko's Shrew. (I haven't heard of it till now, I must confess, but I'm rather an ignoramus about ballet despite the Covent Garden editathons.) As to Fauré's Requiem, I reserve my position on GAN, for the moment, if you'll allow me. It needs quite a lot more work to get to GA level, and I'm not confident I know enough about the musicological side. I have several FAC projects already scheduled: Ravel (a solo effort, now nearing completion in my sandbox) and two collaborations: H H Asquith and P G Wodehouse, on which my research hasn't even begun. Tim riley talk 11:14, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, ballet and I is a difficult relationship ;) - last year I worked on several ballerinas for women's history month, including

BWV 165 in the making, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Right! One stub duly created and awaiting your attention,

here. Nb that the date of the original premiere is doubtful. The ROH's performance database says here it was 16 March 1969, but the review of the premiere in The Times is dated 6 May, and was in the 7 May issue. Over to you... Tim riley talk 11:48, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Actually, now I look again at the Times review it reads like a review of a premiere, but doesn't say in so many words that it is, and it is probably safe to follow the ROH database, which I have now done. Tim riley talk 11:51, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, despite

WP:CITEVAR I shouldn't feel the slightest hesitation if I were you in applying the sfn/efn system, which I think you prefer. I shall not assert squatter's rights. Tim riley talk 12:07, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply

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I am not consistent myself ;) - yes for GA and FA I apply it, and find text so much easier to read without longish citations in between, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Free for a PR?

Tim, You were kind enough to comment at PR and FAC on Casino Royale; could I ask for a similar favour for the next instalment of the Bond series: Live and Let Die, which is now at PR? Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 11:58, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It will be a pleasure. I'm busy today and travelling most of tomorrow, and will probably look in on Thursday. Tim riley talk 12:00, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're a gent and a scholar! Thank you kindly! - SchroCat (talk) 12:04, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And now done, in between trying to calm a loony elsewhere. Dear, oh dear! Tim riley talk 21:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ritz

Hi Tim, any idea what room File:Piccadilly_(2233873775).jpg is in the Ritz? I was hoping to find a good colour photo of the Marie Antionette room.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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^{Imperatrix Mundi} 13:10, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Thanks Fortuna, have you dined with Tim in the Ritz yourself? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:38, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have been known to have morning coffee there from time to time, but have lunched there only once and dined there ditto. The latter was immoderately entertaining, and when I get back from Keswick to London next week I'll email you an account, Doctor. Unlike the Savoy (Pinafore room etc) I have never noticed that the Ritz public rooms actually have names, so I shan't be of much use to you there. Tim riley talk 20:55, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alas, no. I didn't need to take my time: it was doomed to an immediate fail. But there is any amount of good stuff in the article, and once knocked into shape it should do very well at a second GAN. Happy to advise on referencing etc if wanted, though there are smarter cookies that I around on that subject. Tim riley talk 13:04, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Sparta

Hello Tim. Thank you for reviewing the article and for your suggested improvements. I had made some alterations to the article and I believe that I have addressed all of your qualms. Hopefully everything is in order. Thanks, Kyriakos (talk) 15:09, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Castell Coch

Hi. I'd be very grateful if you could give Castell Coch a read and comment at Wikipedia:Peer review/Castell Coch/archive1. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I will, gladly. Tim riley talk 19:15, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We didn't waste any time after The Tower House passed hehe! Cardiff Castle I think will follow suit at a later date!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Enthiran FAC 2.0

I have opened the second FAC for the article. Please do let me know if you would like to make any comments. Thanks. — Ssven2 ^{Speak 2 me} 02:24, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 08 April 2015

Sorry...

...for any headaches I may have caused. It looks like Maunus has unwatchlisted English language and disassociated himself from the article. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 05:28, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Curly Turkey: We shall rise above it and press on. Surely nobody could interpret your comments as anything other than helpful in intent. I'm sure we'll steer the ship into harbour fairly soon. Tim riley talk 15:24, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OTD

our joint effort, Hallelujah, in fond memory, - I decorated my pages with Hallelujah, despised and rejected, to mark the occasion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:29, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Am emailing you an interesting link to the Gramophone site on this subject. Tim riley talk 17:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wot about the workers?

I have been fairly preoccupied recently, but betweentimes have managed to get Jarrow March into a reviewable state, and it awaits attention at peer review. You will notice that your grandfather played a leading role in the march, and that your spiritual grandfather (H. Henson) thought they were all a bunch of dirty commies. I'd be very pleased if you could look it over and make such observations as you think fitting. Brianboulton (talk) 18:25, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How dare you suggest my grandfather was from that side of the Pennines! (In point of fact my Riley grandfather was a music hall comedian on the north-western circuit. I still use his material.) I hope you haven't been too savage to the Rt Revd. It will be a pleasure to look in and comment. Tim riley talk 18:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It wouldn't be a certain Mr John Riley, a co-manager of the Argyle Theatre of Varieties in Birkenhead by any chance? Cassianto^Talk 17:23, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Boat Race reviews

		The Running Man Barnstar
		Hey Tim, just a quick barnstar to say thanks for the many reviews of FA status: we now have 158 GAs and 3 FAs that we can all be proud of! It doesn't stop here, for me at least, I'm going to keep up with improving the quality of the GAs and look for more FA opportunities. Plus, there's the small matter of 70 Women's Boat Race articles to get up and running! But thanks again, I couldn't have done it without your help. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:39, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply ]

I am pleased to get this charming award, but much, much more pleased – and open-mouthed in admiration – at your astonishing, superb feat. Bravissimo! – Tim riley talk 15:50, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Savoy

Indeed! Delighted to see you working on the Savoy Theatre Tim, I had intended on working on the hotel at some point!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:14, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pleased to work with you on it, but not yet awhile. As to the Savoy Theatre, it is in a sense the very centre of my aesthetic universe, as my love of literature and music expanded from my youthful (and undiminished) love of Gilbert and Sullivan. Tim riley talk 19:49, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent choice, look forward to seeing it at the peer review and FAC!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:55, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Castell Coch

Tim, a brief note to thank your again for your peer review of the above and to let you know it is now at FAC where, again, your comments would be very much appreciated. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 17:16, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It will be my privilege and pleasure to look in tomorrow. Tim riley talk 19:52, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim - really grateful for your support. Now, a big favour. We're having a debate about Burges's death from "a chill". The consensus is we need a footnote. The bottom line appears to be that the Victorians used "chill" or "fever" for a range of illnesses that they didn't fully understand. Prince Albert was said to have caught a "severe chill" which Jenner later (mis?)diagnosed as typhoid. Cholera and influenza were others. Any ideas where I might find an authoritative source for the Victorians use of "chill" as a portmanteau term? Not my area at all. As an aside, I wonder if we could work The Importance of Being Earnest into the footnote:

"Jack. Oh, before the end of the week I shall have got rid of him. I’ll say he died in Paris of apoplexy. Lots of people die of apoplexy, quite suddenly, don’t they?

Algernon. Yes, but it’s hereditary, my dear fellow. It’s a sort of thing that runs in families. You had much better say a severe chill.

Jack. You are sure a severe chill isn’t hereditary, or anything of that kind?

Algernon. Of course it isn’t!

Jack. Very well, then. My poor brother Ernest to carried off suddenly, in Paris, by a severe chill. That gets rid of him."

Really appreciate any advice. KJP1 (talk) 18:35, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim - just to say Hc's fixed this with a footnote already. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 07:17, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gramophone refs

Tim, I vaguely remember that you had ideas about replacement of the refs to reviews in Gramophone. I am interest in referencing the 1978 La clemenza di Tito recording with Marga Schiml. Btw, I forgot about "our" ballet which made it too late for the 50 years anniversary, but the dancer is in prep for her birthday tomorrow, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, its like this: The Gramphone used to have an open-access archive of all its back-numbers, but a couple of years ago this vanished behind a paywall, and all the URLs were also changed at the same time. So all I have done since, when revisiting an old article, is to leave bibliographic details (author, month, page) intact, but deleted the obsolete URLs. The British Library has all the issues of the magazine on open access, so I can easily look up any details you need, if you tell me what and when. Tim riley talk 15:11, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As said above, Marga Schiml, - I did what you recommended. The former url is still on the opera discography, if that helps. I guess there will not be much about her as singing a minor role, - but would be nice to confirm the date. Strange article in German, - simply her university page (OTRS), with only few dates. Any other help to the English article welcome. I saw her on stage ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right ho. Shall pop over to the BL tomorrow and report back. Tim riley talk 20:20, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Gerda, have a look at my jottings here. There are about twenty more recordings to be added from my researches, but would this sort of layout and detail meet with your approval? Tim riley talk 12:08, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That is impressive! Can we have a column with Conductor + choir + orchestra before "Other performers" or "Soloists"? Leave role empty when no opera? Link every time, even Wagner? - The Boulez Ring is also DVD. Let's do it together ;) - I improved Stuttgart Ballet a bit, replacing peacock by Britannica. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I first had choir and orch columns, and would prefer them, but they made the table so wide that I got scrolling, which is pretty undesirable. Better to stick with this one column for all fellow performers I think. As for duplicate links, I believe that is customary for tables, especially those with some sortable columns, which this is going to have, I hope. Anyway, give me a day or two and I'll have the table complete, D.v., after which I'll paste it into the article for you to amend in any way you wish. I am emailing you about a related matter, which is too speculative for these pages. Tim riley talk 13:15, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I was not clear, I meant cond+choir+orch in ONE column, then the other soloist, - should make it shorter overall because more even distribution. One Wagner link was missing, that's why I asked. The ballerina is on the Main page now, pictured ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Detail: I think we need only the major roles for her bio, - there's always the opera (discography) article for more detail. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can't find a ref for the Christmas Oratorio, - article says Rilling did it with different soloists, and Bach-Cantatas doesn't know it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No idea what to make out of this, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That, dear Gerda, will be entirely yours to grapple with. I'll deliver a table with which you can tinker ad libitum. Meanwhile, the revised cells you have posted in my sandbox cause scrolling on my screen. Not good. I suggest we stick to my earlier layout, but by all means canvass opinion on this. There are so many different screens in use now that an all-round satisfactory layout may be impossible. Meanwhile, pray leave me to build the table, and then once it's in main space it's yours to do with what you will. Tim riley talk

I won't touch yours, just tried a suggestion. I believe to have the conductor before some arbitrary soloist makes sense, and to have choir and orchestra also the same. Let me play with my little bit, and please make suggestions, - it's convenient to have them the same place, if you don't mind. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Back to Bach, seems to be a recording of a live concert, no soprano given (but there must be one), - while your entry has two. ?? - Leave you in peace now, guest coming, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday thanks, and did you see how smiled mentioning DFD? - Today the Stuttgart Ballet again: DYK ... that Georgette Tsinguirides, employed by the Stuttgart Ballet for 70 years, was the first choreologist in Germany and has taught ballets by Cranko and MacMillan to generations of dancers? - 70 years! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 15 April 2015

Maurice Ravel at FAC

To anyone kind enough to watch this page: I have put Ravel up for FAC, where all contributions will be most gladly received. Tim riley talk 16:59, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Receive congratulations ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ps: I added a bit to a neglected Onegin, feel free to improve/add, will show tomorrow, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, a hearty pat on the back Sir!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:59, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations from the eastern Mediterranean too. —  Cliftonian (talk)  10:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

...from Brentwood also. Ok, so it doesn't have quite the same ring of exotica as Cliftonian's postcard, but I'm equally impressed nonetheless! -- Cassianto^Talk 12:05, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's so kind of all of you, and I am much touched. I really enjoyed writing about Ravel, though I am looking forward to equal enjoyment in my next (joint) FAC project, P G Wodehouse, who is still lurking in a sandbox at present. He lived longer and wrote more than Ravel did, so he may prove a mightier task. Tim riley talk 15:45, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Erm. Odd ... familiar?

Dear Tim, sorry to bother you but does this ring any bells with you? I am wondering if it is someone returning who has form in this field, but I cannot remember any specific examples. So far, only one edit, but if they are some kind of self-appointed Classical Music Delinking Expert™ it could become tedious. If this has no sense of familiarity for you, please don't worry, and apologies for wasting your time. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 17:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't ring any bells, and let us hope that one outbreak of patent idiocy doesn't presage an epidemic. Let constant vigilance be our watchword! Tim riley talk 18:59, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 22:02, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The march awaits...

I have now nominated the Jarrow March at FAC. Any further thoughts, comments etc would be much welcomed. Brianboulton (talk) 22:58, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 22 April 2015

Shah Rukh Khan FAC

Hi Tim. This is to inform you that Shah Rukh Khan is now up for FAC again at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Shah Rukh Khan/archive2. You said that I could ping you when this occurred. BollyJeff | talk 12:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just a reminder in case you didn't see the post; no pressure though. BollyJeff | talk 16:53, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no (groan groan), not another bloody Indian cinema article. Who said that? Ahem! ;-) I'm sure he'll gladly look at it when he has the chance Jeff, it's only been three days..♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:50, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, yeah, no worries. I have one more on the way this year too, and then I will probably hang it up and edit other things. BollyJeff | talk 00:28, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Enthiran - FA!

Happy to inform you that the article has been promoted. Thank you for your support, Tim. — Ssven2 ^{Speak 2 me} 13:24, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PONY!

Pony!
Congratulations! For your support of Bazy Tankersley at FAC, you have received a pony! Ponies are cute, intelligent, cuddly, friendly (most of the time, though with notable exceptions), promote good will, encourage patience, and enjoy carrots. Treat your pony with respect and he will be your faithful friend! Montanabw^(talk) 19:51, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To send a pony or a treat to other wonderful and responsible editors, click here.

I say! Thank you very much. A good job I'm not Belgian. Tim riley talk 19:58, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thankfully I am, born and bred in Bruges ;-) I have some carrots to give the pony if he gets hungry!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The pony is safe, methinks; my understanding is that they raise

these fellows for the dinner table. Montanabw^(talk) 00:05, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply

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I note your request for citations. You may be aware that the current page is a much edited-down version of the previous page. Perhaps whoever supplied that lengthy material might be the one to approach for sources. Valetude (talk) 15:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The final FLC nom of a list of Scheduled monuments in Somerset

As you have kindly added comments to one or more of the FLC nominations of

Gladly. A treat in store, to judge from the earlier instalments. Tim riley talk 20:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New PR request

Hi Tim, I have recently been working on the Burning of Parliament, which is now at PR for comment. Any input you could have would be much appreciated. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 20:01, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be in favour of it. Oh, I see what you mean! I'll look in with pleasure. Must do Chetro Ketl first. Tim riley talk 20:29, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sad that another article like that may be needed for

this --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Invitation

I'd like to invite you to join the WikiProject R&B and Soul Music. We are currently on demand for new members, the project was dying, but with your help we can revive it and make it one of the best WikiProjects. Make me sure that you'll think about this and remember cooperative works can do amazing things. Regards Dfrr (talk) 23:40, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very kind, but as I can't bear the sound of such music and go to great lengths to avoid having it inflicted on my ears I couldn't be of any use to the project. Tim riley talk 07:51, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 April 2015

DYK for Onegin (Cranko)

On 2 May 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Onegin (Cranko), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Onegin (Cranko). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Harrias ^talk 09:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A legend died (met her once), Romeo is alive and remembers, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Eric might be interested in helping you get her up to FA status now, he's OK with ballet right, just not opera and musicals ;-)?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ballet is not my thing. I have done some work on ballet articles as part of three Editathons at the Royal Opera House, but I'm an opera chap, not a ballet boy, and I can't imagine ever trying to take a ballet article (particularly one on someone I've never heard of) to FAC. Tim riley talk 15:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can't say I'm that wildly enthusiastic about either, but I do appreciate some of the opera singers. I like the odd musical. Now a film about ballet like Black Swan (film), that's terrific.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:20, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim, did you know about Wikipedia:RIPM? Thought you might be interested in accessing more sources on music periodicals, might help occasionally?17:27, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

No, I didn't know, and am most grateful to learn of it. I have put my name on the application list. Tim riley talk 17:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discography

Remembering fondly your collection for Marga Schiml, it's now in Main space, but under construction, - comments welcome for {{classical discography row}}, a baby, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

When I saw "classical discography row" I thought there was some sort of brawl into which I must ride, having donned my shining armour, to rescue you. Not in the least, I find, and I have had much pleasure in adding a few - I hope - helpful suggestions. Tim riley talk 17:25, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

She (the singer) is now pictured on the Main page, and the "rows" in better condition than ever, - always to be improved, of course, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I changed

Looks excellent to me. Tim riley talk 19:27, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Having seen that people didn't dare to change anything on The Tower House before TFA day, I was trembling a bit, changing BWV 165, 172 and 12 also. Andy improved it further. - I wonder what to do about the "one voice on part" recordings, those in historically informed practice but with choir, and those where orchestra and choir form a unity as in Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 06 May 2015

Cranko and team pictured

See Barra etc [3] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hastings Line FAC

I've addressed most of the issues raised. Asked for help on OCLCs and will need to dig amongst my book collection for a definition of secondary railway. Mjroots (talk) 19:18, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Falstaff

To any fellow editors who may watch this page: I have nominated Verdi's Falstaff for FAC. The nomination is my tribute to the late John Webber, who edited as Viva-Verdi, with whom I worked extensively on the article. I hope I can do him justice. All comments gratefully received. Tim riley talk 14:17, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim, the nom is not listed on

WP:FAC which makes me think that you didn't complete the nomination process. You naughty boy! I've listed it as one to be looked at, and will comment later. Brianboulton (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Thank you, Brian! A combination of a cold in the head and advancing senility has muddled me even more than usual. Now added to the list. Tim riley talk 20:49, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If only for amusement: [4] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:48, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief! It takes all sorts! I got to the third page before I totally lost patience. Tim riley talk 10:31, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats to the promotion, - "Tutto nel mondo è burla", quite apt on a day when two Precious editors got blocked by arbitrary enforcement, - long live the memory of Viva-Verdi and the master for whom he lived! - Opera to appear on Verdi's birthday, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I say! Thank you, Gerda. I hadn't spotted the promotion yet. Delighted, both for self and for the memory of John Webber. Tim riley talk 13:15, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, congrats! What did you want reviewed again Tim?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I decorated my user page, good until Sunday, - didn't occur to me that the name of both Sirs is John ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Irataba FAC3

Irataba is back at FAC: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Irataba/archive3. We look forward to your comments there. RO^(talk) 16:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ms Yates

Slim pickings, I'm afraid, from my shelves. There are two references to her in Freedom's Cause: Lives of the Suffragettes by Fran Abrams (Profile Books, London 2003,

Excellent stuff! Thank you. Tim riley talk 10:53, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Nielsen GA review

Hi Tim. I see you've very quickly picked up Carl Nielsen. I'm honoured to see we have such an expert on the job. As you will see, there's been quite a bit of work on the article since we were first in touch. Straightening out the referencing has been a major task but I think everything is more or less in order now. Perhaps you could alert me when you start commenting. I may be able to help out with the follow-up.--Ipigott (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bloomsbury?

Me: I am working on Æthelwulf.

Friend: Æthelwulf?

Me: The father of Alfred the Great.

Friend: It sounds like a little known member of the Bloomsbury Group.

Dudley Miles (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delightful! Let me know if and when I can be of any use reviewing Ms Wulf's article. Tim riley talk 07:02, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 13 May 2015

Falstaff

Re: filling out the music section: there are some possibly useful comments in Roger Parker's essay in Grove Music Online, here. Also, I remember there's quite a lot about Falstaff in Charles Osborne's Complete Operas of Verdi; unfortunately I've lost my copy of that book but I reckon it's fairly accessible. I'm looking through my books to see it there's anything else of substance. Brianboulton (talk) 16:26, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bless you! I'll chivvy the BL for copies ere next week is out. Tim riley talk 20:20, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Grove article is a godsend. I hope I've added enough from it and the learned notes to two of the half-dozen recordings on my shelves to gain reviewera' approval at the FAC page. But I'll still look out Osborne next week and top up further if it seems fruitful. Tim riley talk 12:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 20 May 2015

Bligh

Hello Tim, how are you? I hope you're doing well. Brian and I have just finished drafting a new article on the Mutiny on the Bounty and now have it at peer review here. Any contributions you might care to make would as always be more than welcome. —  Cliftonian (talk)  21:53, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm blest! You two are a pair of dark horses. I'll be extravagantly pleased to look in at your joint efforts. Tim riley talk 22:06, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll happy accept the description of dark horse for myself, but I must object to its being applied to the remarkably industrious and exacting Brian, who it has been a singular pleasure to work alongside thus far. As always I look forward to your comments Tim. —  Cliftonian (talk)  22:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just another note to let you know as a peer reviewer that the article is now at FAC here. Thank you again for all your help at the PR stage, and do let me know when you visit the Fletcher Christian in Cockermouth. —  Cliftonian (talk)  01:58, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gilbert, and Sullivan

Does this mean it is incorrect to use "Infobox:Person", summarizing key census data up front, for historical figures?Jmg38 (talk) 17:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

*groan* - how many more times have we got to endure this? There is a consensus that an idiot-box is not required. Tim riley talk 17:14, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Having a bad day? No need for "groan" and "idiot-box" comments, you could have simply said that there is already a consensus on this issue - I understand that concept. I apologize for the original edit, and thank you for the (essential core) of your feedback. Is it okay/normal to add "age at death" in the text at the start of each article?Jmg38 (talk) 17:23, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you're quite right – sorry! To put my tetchy reaction in context, there is a school of thought that thinks that though IBs are desirable for articles such as sportspeople, politicians and clerics et al where a convenient list of records/posts/career stats is helpful at the top of the page, for most arts biographies IBs add nothing of value to the reader and clog up the page. For classical music there is an established consensus to that effect. When an article is already GA or FA there is probably a good reason why it has or hasn't got an IB, and it is worth checking before wading in. Be that as it may, sorry for training my fire on you, and I trust we are friends. Tim riley talk 17:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Still (new) friends. Good day. Jmg38 (talk) 17:45, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good! A friendly thank-you. Tim riley talk 17:51, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 27 May 2015

The Wikipedia Library needs more volunteer account coordinators

Hey Tim riley: it occured to me that you might be a really good fit for the Wikipedia Library's account coordination volunteer team, because you have been a really strong contributor and really good at interacting with other users! Account coordination only requires a limited amount of time (a few hours a week at peak time), helping screen and approved editors for one (or two) of our donations at

I'll certainly check that page out and ponder. Tim riley talk 15:02, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User_talk:Crisco_1492#Request

Just in case you didn't get the ping. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 10:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I missed the ping, and will look in forthwith. Tim riley talk 12:28, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you could help document and put into articles the images, I'll start on fixing them up. I think only Un ballo in maschera currently has a version used (and that version is terrible, but also the lead image. You could also help me look for any other such images - which scores have illustrations is pretty random, really. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 14:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right ho! I'm off to the Lake District for a week from tomorrow, but shall have broadband access and will do the necessary. Tim riley talk 15:01, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right ho! If you get to Edinburgh, let me know - I'll get ye a drink. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• And I'll get ye both a drink if you come my way. A bit far though. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:06, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• I am slightly apprehensive at what that drink might be, young Christopher! Anything much beyond Cab Sauv and Pinot Noir has me worried. I can say authoritatively that Viva-Verdi and I did justice to two carafes of the latter when we met – a happy day!Tim riley talk 15:11, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Fond memories, indeed. I can offer you the stars... though my French friend here does have some wine on his menu. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:39, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The first set of four are done. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 17:50, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They look splendid. I'll start adding them to the opera articles unless someone beats me to it. Bravo! Tim riley talk 17:56, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Giovanna d'Arco might be a better lead image than the current: The current lead is just an image of Joan of Arc, not related to the opera except in subject matter. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 18:05, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Nielsen FA

I would like to thank you, Tim, for the excellent suggestions you made for further work on Carl Nielsen which has just been promoted to FA in time for the 150th anniversary on 9 June. On the strength of this success, I intend to work on the Jean Sibelius article in time for his 150th anniversary on 8 December. The article needs more work than Nielsen did when you stepped in but we also have more time. Let me know if you are interested.--Ipigott (talk) 15:23, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is excellent news, both as to the promotion of the Nielsen article and your plans to upgrade Sibelius's. Very happy to review, at GAN/PR. Not a lot I can contribute to the research and writing, as Sibelius is not a composer I know very much about. I used to attend with pleasure Colin Davis's LSO Sibelius cycle a decade or so ago, but I've never studied the music closely. Tim riley talk 21:45, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's quite a bit of additional work needed before we get close to GAN. If all goes well, maybe basic improvements could be completed in about a month. I'll get back to you once we have done what we can. I'm sure you will once again have some useful tips. I believe you said you didn't know much about Nielsen either but it was mainly as a result of your encouragement and enthusiasm that we went first for GA and then FA. Nielsen and Sibelius actually knew each other quite well and in many ways shared similar ambitions - so it should be interesting to work on yet another Nordic composer.--Ipigott (talk) 16:04, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to thank SchroCat the same but do not feel welcome, - please share ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 03 June 2015

P G Wodehouse peer review

To anyone who is kind enough to watch this here talk page: SchroCat and I have been overhauling the article on Wodehouse, and have put it up for peer review. All contributions gratefully received, Tim riley talk 12:13, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 10 June 2015

Finally

I've laid Warren G. Harding at peer review. Your views welcome. I've laboured long to bear a long article, I'm afraid, but when you have a tempest in a Teapot ...--Wehwalt (talk) 14:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be there! Looking foward to it. Tim riley talk 14:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 24, 2015

Could you take a peek at the first line and tell me if "catalog number" turns your stomach? - Dank (push to talk) 15:59, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good Lord, no! I am perfectly unruffled. The front page is usually in US spelling, and "catalog" is nearer the Italian catalogo than our British-bastardised-French "catalogue". Dr Johnson, great man though he was, has much to answer for. Whether Bold Sir Brian, as main author, will concur is not for me say, but I doubt if he will be mounting his battle charger over it. Tim riley talk 16:07, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh good grief, can't believe I missed that ... I mean, if it's spelled "catalogue", do you object to saying "catalogue number" in front of what's obviously a catalog number (for the knowledgeable), and do you think WT:OPERA will object? - Dank (push to talk) 16:12, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. Then I give it as my solemn and quotable opinion that anyone who objects to your proposed phrasing is in urgent need of getting a life. Whether it is the way it would appear in

Grove is neither here nor there. This is a generalist encyclopedia. Onwards and upwards! Tim riley talk 16:16, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Okay, I'll send the angry mob your way. Careful, they may be armed with tuning forks. - Dank (push to talk) 16:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I shall repulse them with the dominant of F sharp, which I am honing to a lethal edge. Tim riley talk 18:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Dank, As someone will point out the US spelling and British date format (you know they will - and many KB of discussion will follow!), it is worth bringing the date in line with the spelling to keep it consistent? - SchroCat (talk) 07:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Schro. It's British English, and the one date in the TFA column seems to be okay ... did I miss an Americanism somewhere? - Dank (push to talk) 11:37, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you very much for your swift review of Borders Railway! RGloucester — ☎ 19:40, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Great pleasure. It was an enjoyable and instructive article to review. I am supposed to urge you and your co-editors to keep the wheel going round by reviewing someone else's GAN. Pray ponder. Tim riley talk 19:49, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 17 June 2015

A small request

While I bask momentarily in the afterglow of the Mutiny before returning to the travails of Jeremy (too long by 1500), would you mind doing a brief talkpage review for The Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold? I don't want a formal peer review if I can help it, but I'd be glad of your opinion along with those of a few others. Brianboulton (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I call an edit summary that reads "Request re Gilbert" a shocking deception of an innocent Savoyard. I shall of course be pleased to look in, though I have to say the book disturbed me somewhat when I read it as a young man. Tim riley talk 15:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to come in so fast with another request, but I have just now opened a peer review for Sir Hugh Beadle, who Harold Wilson once said could not have a slipped disc as he had no backbone. As always your input would be very much appreciated if you can find a few minutes to look in over the next week or so. Cheers, —  Cliftonian (talk)  08:27, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) That Harold! What a card. :) DBaK (talk) 11:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I shall certainly look in at the Beadle article once I've done with Pinfold. Tim riley talk 11:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Tim. —  Cliftonian (talk)  11:58, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FA for 2017 main page- Don Carlos

Hi Tim. Based on your participation at Verdi's Falstaff, I thought you might consider working on Don Carlos with the idea of getting the opera promoted in time to appear on the main page for the opera's 150th anniversary on March 11, 2017. I know that's a ways away, but since you tend to be busy I thought I would throw out the idea now. Best.4meter4 (talk) 23:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How very nice to be asked! Alas, when it comes to Verdi I'm afraid that Falstaff is the only one I know more than a bare minumum about. I've only ever seen Don Carlos once, and I don't think I could do it justice. Happy to research and peer review, though, if anyone takes the job on. – Tim riley talk 14:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

JC's Girls

Hi Tim,

Might you have the time to give the JC's Girls article a look-over? I have the article up for an FAC here, and I would be grateful for any comments you might provide in the discussion.

Neelix (talk) 01:32, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief! This is about as far from my area of expertise as I can imagine – I have little to do with religion and nothing at all to do with female strippers – but I'll gladly look in and comment. Tim riley talk 07:38, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 June 2015

Æthelwulf

Hi Tim. I have

Can't be more turgid than her elder sister's stuff. (I mean, Mrs Dalloway! I've been dining out on your friend's Bloomsbury remark ever since you reported it.) Shall look in with pleasure. Tim riley talk 18:57, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy, Jeremy, bang. bang, woof, woof

I have sent

Pinfold duly attended to. Shall turn to Thorpe shortly. More soonest. Tim riley talk 08:28, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Walpole

Re my deleted edit, you might think of a better word than 'deface' for a perfectly legit addition, suitably referenced. There are wiki vandals about, but I am not one of them. (I do note, however, that Featured Articles merit special treatment.) Valetude (talk) 14:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean; all the same it is jolly hard work getting an article to FA, and a few misjudged edits can imperil the FA status. I think, if you would be happy with this, I'll move the JBP gratitude line to the section where other authors' indebtedness to HW is mentioned. The citation is essentially fine, and just needs knocking into shape, which I'm happy to do. Tim riley talk 14:52, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jeeves

How's that? Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 06:34, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks excellent; thank you very much. Tim riley talk 06:44, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly didn't expect it to come out so well. I had to invent some new techniques for on the letters. =) Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 08:20, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I spent a happy couple of minutes flicking between the original and your restored version. The difference is striking. Bravo! Tim riley talk 09:50, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I love doing that. It's one of the reasons I upload so many incremental restorations when I'm doing a longer one: Flicking back and forth and seeing that you really are making progress really helps motivate you to carry on. Otherwise, it's so easy to feel "I've been working at this so long, and it feels like I've done nothing." Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 10:33, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Italics & quotes Hi, I read your GA review on BWV 243a with much interest. A point you write about is the italicisation and/or enclosing in quotes of Magnificat, "Magnificat anima mea", "Esurientes" etc. You refer to the MoS, in part to

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles#Neither

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Works named by a generic title: Symphony No. 2 by Gustav Mahler ..., Shakespeare's Sonnet 130 ..., The Magnificat by Schütz, ... the Adagio sometimes attributed to Albinoni.

Interesting. I wonder who dreamed that one up.

Grove, always italicises the word, as do our own Wikipedia articles on the Magnificat and on the settings by various composers. Some muddled thinking chez MoS, but as it's there I suppose we are stuck with it. Tim riley talk 12:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply

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That extends to movements of compositions: e.g. "The first movement of

BWV 1047

has no tempo indication, the second and third are an Andante and an Allegro assai. Not: ... an "Andante" and an "Allegro assai" – and even less: ... an Andante and an Allegro assai. Similarly, not "Esurientes", nor Esurientes, but Esurientes, not even when a full title of a movement is used: Magnificat anima mea, not "Magnificat anima mea", nor Magnificat anima mea.

It is axiomatic that we don't italicise such words as adagio or scherzo, but I see nothing in the MoS or in normal usage elsewhere to suggest that the same applies to titles of sections within works. Certainly, Grove, The Journal of Musicology, The Musical Times and four sources I've checked at random from those cited for the Magnificat in D article (Jones, Rizzuti, Hogwood and Jenkins) all put "Quia respexit" "Sicut locutus est" etc into quotes. Wikipedia would look rather silly flying in the face of such authorities. Tim riley talk

When referring to words that are sung (not to the movement of the composition, i.e. not referring to a title of a composition nor to one of its constituent parts), italicize foreign words would apply per

MOS:FOREIGN, e.g. "The ritornello introduces a motif moving up, later sung on Esurientes implevit bonis." (but that is unrelated to style guides on titles). --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:43, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply

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Difficult to argue with that, as long as it is applied consistently within an article. Tim riley talk

Do you have space in your diary for a PR?

Hi Tim, After a recent re-write, the Hitler Diaries are now at peer review, should you have the time and inclination. Any and all thoughts on the article are most welcome. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 11:58, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, but it may be a little while: I have Sir B's Thorpe PR and two GANs to do first. Tim riley talk 12:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No rush whatsoever: I also have to join in the bun-fight at Thorpe. - SchroCat (talk) 13:05, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Off to Portugal on Sunday for a week, where I doubt if my hosts will leave me much time to fossick about online, so normal service will resume on or about 13 July. Off to the Lakes a day or two after that, but I'll have bags of editing time there. I'm looking forward to your PR rather more than I am to BB's, purely because of the subject matter. I bet I'll be the only one of BB's reviewers who had several conversations with Thorpe in the early 1970s. I never met Lord Dacre or, of course, the supposed diarist, though I sometimes suspect he edits WP and one has dealt with him over... Tim riley talk 13:25, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SO!! Sensation, sensation, the identity of the mysterious Mr Big in the Thorpe affair is at last resolved!! You murderous swine. (Your review should be most revealing). Brianboulton (talk) 19:26, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was the minorest of functionaries in the Palace of Westminster, and most MPs were civil but de haut en bas. But not Jeremy Thorpe, Enoch Powell, George Thomas, Wedgie Benn, and Denis Healy, who all used to talk to me as though I were an equal. I shall respect Jeremy Thorpe for that come what may. I really liked him. Tim riley talk 19:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chetro Ketl

Hello. Thanks for your comments at the Chetro Ketl peer review. The article is now a featured article candidate, and I'd like to invite you to comment there. Thanks! RO^(talk) 17:52, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad to see you're back, and I look forward to your comments at the Chetro Ketl FAC. RO^(talk) 15:26, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Beadle

Hi Tim, just a note to let you know as a participant in the peer review that Sir Hugh is now at FAC here. Thanks for all your help earlier and I hope you're enjoying your holiday. Cheers, —  Cliftonian (talk)  06:25, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 08 July 2015

The Oceanides

The Oceanides, I found that article - author's first, act of love - and nominated it for DYK, - it graces the Main page right now. I think it has GA potential and will tell the author tomorrow how to nominate, - if you would be inclined to review in your kind way, that would make life easier for the user who mentioned discouragement today. - Different topic: You can now say: Kathleen Ferrier recorded Bach's Mass in B minor with George Enescu. Work in progress, comments welcome, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I never heard Ferrier sing, alas, but I often heard Janet Baker in her heyday, and I shall go to my grave in the belief that she is the greatest singer England produced in the 20th century.

So, we could say that Janet Baker recorded Bach's Mass in B minor with Otto Klemperer, - I like the ease of doing so, - what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Returning from a concert, music for the soul, Choir of King's College, Cambridge, conducted by

I am slowly and enjoyably gathering material for an overhaul of the Vaughan Williams article with FA in mind. If the demands of RL allow him time, Alfie Tucker will be joining me in this, and I am therefore taking my time with my researches. I'm afraid Byrd and the Tudor lot bore me to sobs; nor shall I be working on Purcell's article. Real music started with Bach and ended with Britten. (I am going to have to keep very quiet about the god-awfulness of the English folk music to which VW was morbidly addicted.) Tim riley talk 14:55, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Tim. I have heard, of course, wonderful things about your work and your abilities as a conscientious and careful reviewer/editor. Both Gerda Arenda and Ipigott recommended you to me as someone who would take the time to help a new editor like me improve the quality of my work. Gerda has already informed you of the GAN on

talk) 01:46, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply

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I am flattered to be asked, and will most certainly look in over the next couple of weeks. My spare time is limited just at the moment, but I'll make of point of fitting The Oceanides in. Tim riley talk 17:41, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much, Tim, for taking this on! No rush, of course... :)

talk) 05:29, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply

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