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The result was merge to Sajjad Ali. ansh666 01:11, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Love Letter (Sajjad Ali album)

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Nothing turns up. Fails

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  • Merge with article on Sajjad Ali. If one goes to the article on Sajjad Ali, one will see that the tracks from this album are already listed. The minimal amount of content the article on the album has besides track listings should not prove too difficult to merge with the article on the singer. Vorbee (talk) 16:04, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:01, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Moqui

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Non-notable software. Google search revealed no in-depth coverage in reliable sources - just passing mentions, routine listings and PR activities (less than 4,000 hits for Moqui ERP). The linked book (ref #2) is the "official documentation" by the developer/founder, and not an independent source. GermanJoe (talk) 23:45, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Yeah just a self-published book. Nothing there, no (or almost no) independent coverage I can find. Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:32, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete only sourced to its documentation on github and primary website. Also no reference in any secondary source can be found in search. –Ammarpad (talk) 18:19, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Divya Sharma

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Seems to be riding notability based solely as a participant of BBC's 100 Women show. The criteria for being on the list is just a survey of different women around the world, and not anything especially notable. Other than being on the show, person is

WP:LOWPROFILE Article was also created by a blocked editor. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 23:38, 11 December 2017 (UTC) updated 18:17, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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According to the BBC, they try to pick "100 influential and inspirational women around the world every year." But the question arises as to whether being selected and volunteering to participate in the program makes the person notable and getting press as a result of being on the program now makes them notable. Some people on the list are already notable. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:17, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've started a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Notability_(people)#BBC_100_Women on whether the women listed on this program are inherently notable. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:26, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom. MT TrainDiscuss 15:20, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete searches yield no results Earnsthearthrob (talk) 21:32, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not even "30 under 30" or similar lists make people notable, being in a list of 100, especially when it is not clear if it is the first 100 chosen, or as is more likely, keeps going till they get 100 participants, is not at all a sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:17, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. not meting GNG. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 05:20, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just Plain Folks Music Organization

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Fails

WP:GNG. Could find absolutely no reliable or in-depth coverage of the organization. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:26, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jan D. Winitz

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The article falls under

WP:BLP
and has the following issues:

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  • Delete As nominator.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  00:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Striking your !vote. Your nomination counts as a delete !vote. Natg 19 (talk) 01:57, 18 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]
  • Delete I can add little to what was said in the nomination. Basically a total failure to have coverage outside of very promotional sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:32, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment He had a feature in the Wall Street Journal, found here and was covered in local San Fran media in the 1980s at least once ([1]). I think at least the former should be considered in this discussion. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:50, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • An article in the Wall Street Journal is not always clearcut journalism, as this piece from the WSJ's competitor Forbes explains. The piece in the WSJ may have originated from Tobin & Associates, a PR firm. Coincidentally enough, one of the principals at Tobin & Associates began their career at the San Francisco Chronicle. Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  00:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:05, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ellis (singer-songwriter)

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Not notable, only references cited in article are local coverage. The awards mentioned are also of questionable notability. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:53, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Atlanta Film Critics Circle Awards

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Not a notable film award. Debuted this year, with minimal local coverage.

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The result was keep. SNOW close, unaminous support

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DePRODed by creator under misunderstanding of Reliable Sources. Concern was: Unreliable (inacceptable/disalloiwed) sources, and far too soon. This subject should wait until release has been effected and confirmed by WP:Reliable Sources such as mainstream music publications. Fails to meet criteria at

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The result was keep. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:06, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OPNsense

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This has passed through AfC after a lot of drama. See discussion

Pfsense. But am opening a deletion discussion to get feedback after User:Staszek Lem tagged this for N. So let's keep this or delete this already. Jytdog (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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I think you mean struck. 104.163.155.42 (talk) 04:49, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment Brief review of available sources:
Two references already in the article:
  • Linux Format magazine article reposted on techradar.com; comparison of 5 products, OPNsense gets smaller than 1/5 share of the article; RS
  • infoworld.com (in the article is repost via CIO); comparison of 6 products; behind paywall, can´t say how much content devoted to OPNsense; RS
Best other sources I found so far:
  • pro-linux.de - mid size news about version 17.7 (German); webpage claims [2] to have "Redaktion", but it looks like one man staff; still, probably RS
  • root.cz - solid looking comparison of both pfSense a OPNsense (Czech speakers only...); claims to have editorial oversight over submited articles [3]; probably RS
  • heise.de/iX - mid size news about version 17.1 (German); RS
  • heise.de/iX (German) - short to mid size news about version 16.7; RS
pfSense vs OPNsense editwar reminds me of Blue/Red war among Amiga users few years ago... There is some RS coverage, but not yet in quality I would like. Despite that, I´m leaning to keep. Pavlor (talk) 16:11, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I accepted this AfC submission based on what I saw as favorable analysis of sources in
    this discussion. ~Kvng (talk) 19:36, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep per above comments. Seraphim System (talk) 03:03, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I agree with the above. Additionally, more euro based sources exist as well as Wikipedia pages in other languages. See:
  • [4] SANS ISC news reporting 16.7 release. RS. Cyrix2k (talk) 23:01, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User Cyrix2K looks like an SPA. No offense if I am wrong.104.163.155.42 (talk) 04:49, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No offense taken. I'm a lurker on Wikipedia, but the account name has been on the internet for over a decade. I have no affiliation other than as a user of both OPNsense & pfSense (among many other firewalls). That said, the article should be better sourced, but I feel it is notable enough for inclusion.Cyrix2k (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It does not look that notable. Half of the article is about a domain dispute. The other half amounts to a product ad. There are some references given but they are all industry generated, aka weak and promotion-driven. The COIN discussion really points to a strong promotional drive behind the article. I don't think the sources establish notability.104.163.155.42 (talk) 04:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I took out the trivia-oriented domain dispute and the PRNewswire source. PRN? Seriously? What's left is weak int he extreme. Who do you suppose runs "linuxDistroWatch" and are we seriously ok with using junk sources like this?104.163.155.42 (talk) 04:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is an interesting discussion. These type of products become known in the industry through different outlets than typical. DistroWatch is fairly well known. InfoWorld is a very well known and widespread sources, and SANS is one of the best known security authorities. Coverage in these outlets should count as notable in my opinion. Cyrix2k (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also, why is AfD being used to generate a discussion about an article that the nominator says should be kept? This is not Articles for Keeping. LOL. Seems like an improper AfD nomination that could be closed immediately as it gives no reason for deletion.104.163.155.42 (talk) 05:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator´s rationale is clear: there are doubts about notability of the article topic and AfD is the best way to solve this problem. That is the very reason AfD process exists on Wikipedia... Pavlor (talk) 06:04, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep I've tried to wade my way through all the past ANIs and discussions on this topic. On balance (and I feel ashamed I can't cite policy here to back up my view), my gut feeling is this short, non-promotional article should be retained. I think reading the detailed findings of the World Intellectual Property Organization complaint helped sway it for me. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:44, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to pfSense as this is hardly notable fork of pfSense. Almost all of the references mention it as a fork of pfSense. I don't think being a fork of a notable software would automatically make it notable too. I was not able to find any references to the World Intellectual Property Organization complaint in any good open source related or technology review websites that I know of. (I do acknowledge the two Czech sources, but I am unable to confirm the reliability of those). It seems the only claim of significance here is being a fork of pfSense and the WIPO complaint against pfSense. I don't believe this deserves an article all by itself. Wouldn't this be much better of mentioned in the pfSense article?--DreamLinker (talk) 07:37, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - No one is disputing m0n0wall as an article, or on the source Listicle that generates so much controversy, despite it being discontinued. If you browse to the homepage of m0n0wall however, you will see it directs people to use OPNSense as a replacement product. I managed to discover it while researching a router refresh - yet stumbled into an edit war between some editors with clear personal biases once I tried to update wiki. Some links that establish it as a notable product in my eyes, as someone researching professional level routing hardware are listed below from the last time I refreshed my router 6-8 months ago - Peter.dolkens (talk) 19:41, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
* m0n0wall (linked in the article in question) directly says to use OPNSense now on every page: http://m0n0.ch/wall/index.php
* pcengine (who specialize in small-form-factor hardware for running router software) list it as a supported distribution here: https://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm
* miniserver offer official support for the distribution: https://www.miniserver.it/support/pfsense-opnsense-support.html
* miniserver offer it as the default distribution for some products: https://www.miniserver.it/home-page-products/compact-small-utm-pfsense-opnsense-hardware.html
* pfwhardware provide professional-grade hardware, preloaded with OPNSense, direct from their homepage: http://www.pfwhardware.com/
* applianceshop also appear to specialise in, and distribute OPNSense hardware: applianceshop.eu/opnsense-small-ghz.html
* German Wiki has a listing for it here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPNsense (I'd translate if I knew German)
  • keep I realize that it is perhaps odd for me to !vote since I nominated this, but as I explained in my OP I nominated this to address the N tag. In my view OPNsense passes the notability bar - there are sufficient independent, reliable sources that give significant discussion to it now. There is no sign the product is going away so there will only be more as time goes on. We will have to keep an eye on this pages and similar ones to prevent them from becoming product brochures, but I think that is do-able without excessive effort. It passed AfC, and has had further work done, and passing AfD as "keep" on top of that should lay N concerns finally to rest. Jytdog (talk) 20:15, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Solved. MFD completed.

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Beltway bandit

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I'd like to move (rename) the existing article that has the plural form of this article (

Beltway bandits that redirects to the singular article. SixSix (talk) 20:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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Beltway bandits to Beltway bandit and have the plural be a redirect? Because I can 3 step it in there if desired. L3X1 (distænt write) 21:05, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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If so I can move
Beltway bandits again w/o a redirect, Then move HolDinG(where the article is) to Beltway bandit and delete that redirect. Then all the redirects can be set up. L3X1 (distænt write) 21:11, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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Yes, move the plural to the singular and then redirect the plural to the singular. I do not understand the ins and outs of what you explained above, but it sounds like you have a better way to accomplish than what I proposed. SixSix (talk) 21:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
SixSix Moves complete. If you have no objections this can be closed. L3X1 (distænt write) 21:58, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:08, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Buzz (magazine)

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Fails

WP:NORG. Referring to talk page, the disruption of incoming links is not a criteria for keeping an article. Rogermx (talk) 20:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC) Rogermx (talk) 20:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. Without reliable sources not affiliated with the magazine itself, I'd say the mention on Media in Cardiff is appropriate. "Stream" of incoming links seem to largely be due to page inclusion in Template:Media in Cardiff. = paul2520 (talk) 20:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete a small city "a monthly, advertising-funded, free listings magazine" according to the primary sourced page. Admittedly, "Buzz" is not much use as a search term, but even adding Cardiff and the editor's name as keywords produced no secondary sources.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:44, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Streamate

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Declined

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gaurav Sharma (politician)

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As per discussion

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  • Delete, doesn't meet
    WP:NPOLITICIAN. Ajf773 (talk) 20:55, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete, is a very long way off from meeting GNG. Schwede66 03:37, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not notable outside of temporary attention for political candidacy and does not otherwise meet GNG. Kiwichris (talk) 05:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete defeated candidates for political office are not notable for such.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:22, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – I wouldn't say Sharma is a very long way off from meeting GNG but doesn't meet
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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:29, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aleph Zadik Aleph

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Fails

WP:GNG is not assured at all. Yoninah (talk) 19:39, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep The topic is encyclopedic and has an entry, for example, in the "New Jewish Encyclopedia". There is a lot of reliance on one source. There is a template for this problem. It isn't there. There is a lot of coverage so plenty to choose from. Altogether a legitimate
    WP:BEFORE? I'm not saying it doesn't but did not find the relevant history. gidonb (talk) 12:55, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • @Gidonb: I'm not sure what you mean. I did do a check for relevant sources before nominating this, and found none. Perhaps you could add the "New Jewish Encyclopedia" source to the page. Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: just needs more sources. I didn't delve too deeply to find [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], which partially demonstrate how widespread the org is & recognized for their awards. = paul2520 (talk) 20:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:11, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nir Eyal

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Another enterpreneur bio with very little to no independent detail about the individual (vice the companies he's associated with). Where's the

beef? ☆ Bri (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to

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Fails

List of programs broadcast by Teletoon and especially Template:Teletoon
do not have this problem.

Also near-zero prospective maintenance, continuing the spread of garbage info. For this reason I strongly oppose a redirect as well, except as a last resort in the event of a consensus not to delete here.

Some more in-depth reasoning can be found here, although not all of it is necessarily relevant for an AfD: Template talk:Teletoon#List of Teletoon original series decommissioning Modernponderer (talk) 05:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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    List of programs broadcast by Teletoon. That list can easily (and already does, in fact) distinguish programs that are original to Teletoon from programs where Teletoon purchased rebroadcast rights, without needing two separate lists to coexist. Bearcat (talk) 03:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. clear consensus DGG ( talk ) 02:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgarian nouns

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There's not even a Wikipedia article on "English nouns" - it redirects to a tiny paragraph in a larger-scoped article. This seems a bit excessive, no? It also hasn't been sourced since 2006. Surely it deserves better? Improve or redirect. Coin945 (talk) 06:24, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Speedy keep. No valid deletion rationale given. The topic is obviously notable and the article's content doesn't raise any red flags: I don't see any of the OR that is rife in the main article. English nouns are notable too, and the reason they don't have a standalone article probably has to do with the overall thinness of English nominal morphology. – Uanfala (talk) 09:34, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep for
    invalid deletion reason
    . Also the claim it is unsourced is totally not true. It has print reference. Comparison with English noun is also invalid reason, Bulgarian nouns have wider scope due to the nature of the language. also readily sources for expansion
  1. Lexical access in Bulgarian: Nouns and Adjectives with and without floating vowel: –Peer reviewed Catalan Journal of Linguistics
  2. Anomalous use of definiteness and gender in some types of noun –Croatian Journal
  3. Clustering Clitics in Bulgarian Nominal Constituents .
  4. Comparative study of French and Bulgarian human general nounsAmmarpad (talk) 11:46, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep per Uanfala Felicia (talk) 20:15, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Wikipedia is not a dictionary.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:39, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is not "dictionary article " if you indeed do read the article. It covers many aspects in well labeled multiple sections also in academic prose. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:44, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. A reasonable article explaining the construction of nouns in this language. bd2412 T 18:20, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep Several similar articles exists, no reason why this particular one should go. Shellwood (talk) 21:17, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as an entirely encyclopedic article with sourcing (more could potentially be added, but the claim that it's unsourced is rubbish). Nominator should pay closer attention prior to nominations like this, and JPL should remember to read the article before expressing an opinion. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:57, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Informative article. I don't see a reason why it should be deleted. Quickfingers (talk) 04:20, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There's no rigid rules for how to cover grammar on Wikipedia, but grammar is definitely an encyclopedic topic. While there's nothing on English nouns (which have neither gender nor declension), other languages are covered in articles like
    Sanskrit nouns, Russian declension, Latin declension, etc. Arguably there might be a better way to organise this material, but that's certainly not reason to delete it. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:55, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Article is

original research. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:34, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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Contender (stock character)

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WP:OR, WP:GNG Coin945 (talk) 06:37, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete no evidence of usage in literature or character analysis, not like underdog. This is like saying a competitor is a stock character. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • So far as I recall, this was created to resolve incoming links made to the word "contender" in the context of describing fictional characters. If deleted, it should be redirected to an article that has coverage of the character type, perhaps to
    Underdog (term). bd2412 T 18:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. No further deletion discussions need be opened on this for at least 2 years. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:32, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Loud Like Love (song)

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Song/single does not appear to satisfy independent notability criteria. FamblyCat94 (

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  • Keep. The fact that we are even having this AfD is sincerely absurd, since an exact same one was held over a year ago and the result was Keep. Nothing has changed since. However, given this occurrence of simply ignoring plain precedent, let us reiterate what has already been written and agreed upon.
In fact, not a single reason exists to delete this article. The notability box at the top of the article was added by one user, without a bit of discussion (there's none on the article's talk page), without any reasoning or justification and contrary to WP rules. I apologize for not having removed that unduly-added box myself, from the mere addition of which this discussion apparently results.
The article is about a single by Placebo, a highly notable band, with an entire, well-developed "article space" devoted to them (discography, albums, singles, other releases, members, former members, etc.). There is a Wikipedia article for every single Placebo have released, all of them fulfilling the WP guidelines for articles of this kind, including references to external, independent sources writing on the subject.
To be certain, all WP guidelines are unequivocally met. The article satisfies all of them and more:
  1. Its subject is notable.
  2. It is part of a series of articles, encompassing a chronological progression, which all need to exist, side by side, for the reader to be able to receive complete information on the subject.
  3. It is also related and contains information on other highly notable artists, in this case Bret Easton Ellis, who have collaborated with the main artist. Information on that collaboration cannot be found in any other article.
  4. It is easy for the reader to understand exactly what the article is about and how to reach it. If the reader is not interested in the subject, there is no reason they will encounter this article. However, if the reader is interested in the subject, they need this article and will be interested in the information it provides.
  5. The article has existed on Wikipedia for over four years now, helping readers get the information they require and not generating any notability issues, except for one "notability box" added mistakenly by only one user, without any discussion and contrary to WP rules.
  6. Last but not least, the article is referenced with external sources, unrelated and independent from the band. Those sources have written about the article's subject. Additional sources, if necessary, can easily and quickly be added.
In summary, the article fully satisfies the notability guidelines. It seems that even mentioning a possible deletion of this article was simply a misunderstanding, caused by not attending to the fact that the article is notable and does reference to external, independent sources. This article provides readers, both new and well-acquainted with the subject, the knowledge they need, in an organized, informative manner. It should certainly be kept. A.R. (talk) 03:24, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. Legitimate article. Sufficient coverage. gidonb (talk) 22:15, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Notability not established. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:31, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rheinmetall MAN High Altitude Truck Expedition

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Article has no independent coverage save what appears to be a press release on Australasian Transport News website which was published on 8 Nov and fortuitously accessed on 8 Nov. other refs are to Rheinmetall MAN. Totally promotional,

wp:promo. Fails GNG, no independent news coverage. Roxy, Zalophus californianus. barcus 10:34, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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Retain - certainly in the near term. As I created the page I'm not sure how much weight my opinion might actually carry, but I would like to say it was created as I genuinely think it is an interesting and high enough profile event for inclusion on Wikipedia. My opening gambit for retention would be that in these early stages coverage may not be huge in the wider world, but as the challenge progress and when (if) the team are successful, I strongly suspect coverage will grow significantly. So at the very least, I would suggest leaving things as they are until a week or so after the conclusion of the attempt. If it falters many hundreds of meters from the target, then maybe just include the attempt as a one-liner on the on the mountain page, but if they should succeed, let's see what sort of traction the story gains and revisit the retain/delete debate? I would also add, for what it is worth, that I created this page out of genuine interest in the subject (I have been there) and I worked hard to make sure it was as far away from promotional in content and tone as I possibly could, and I have since creation watched with interest (but not had to take any action yet myself...) as random IP addresses (connected to the event I suspect...) have been attempting to insert the type of promotional link I would never include and wholly disapprove of. Finally, I have just conducted a Google search and have found a handful of mentions of the event across the web, so things are perhaps picking up. I can link to these if anybody wishes it. Just ask.SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 14:07, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]


I agree with Surface Agent……………..A valid subject. Coverage isn’t extensive at present, but as SA points out, the more success the expedition has, the more coverage it should/will pick up. Some coverage can already be found with any search engine. I found these in 5 minutes.

http://maquina-de-combate.com/blog/?p=54927

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/an-unstoppable-mission-for-a-determined-man/news-story/b61edce3c1a86c8ec9c51be8858b5f50

http://transporte.rutamotor.com/los-camiones-rheinmetall-man-rumbo-la-cima-objetivo-alcanzar-los-6690-m-altitud/

https://www.fullyloaded.com.au/product-news/1711/warren-part-of-rheinmetall-man-altitude-tilt

http://www.wkndheroes.com/se-instala-en-chile-el-refugio-mas-alto-del-mundo-en-los-ojos-del-salado-6-100-msnm/

http://www.herefordtimes.com/News/15651134.Hereford_veteran_aims_to_reach_the_highest_point_on_earth_accessible_to_motor_vehicles/

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/an-unstoppable-mission-for-a-determined-man/news-story/b61edce3c1a86c8ec9c51be8858b5f50

Wolpat (talk) 10:05, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Those weblinks above are to copies of the press release, most of them even use the same sentences, and pics. May I suggest that if this article is to be kept, it should be for Policy based reasons rather than the we like it so it should not be deleted reasons provided so far, as is the case with all deletion discussions? -Roxy, Zalophus californianus. barcus 21:53, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Roxy, Zalophus californianus., I suppose the first thing I should say is that in no way would I ever propose keeping a Wikipedia entry because I like it. And that's not something I believe I've done here. As previously mentioned, I genuinely think it is an interesting and high enough profile event for inclusion on Wikipedia. A statement that is a very very long way from simply saying I like it so keep it, or anything similar to that. Secondly, I agree with your note about the sourcing of those supporting links. However, having been involved in journalism/PR in a previous working life, I can perhaps advise you that is exactly how most stories/events/occasions are reported in their initial stages. That's what a press release exists for. It is pretty much it's sole purpose in life; to be repeated to promote something. It's only when an event gains media traction that writers/journalists etc start offering up stories and so on that expand on these original press releases and quotes from them. And when this happens, they will be linked. And again, reverting back to my original comments, I think this will happen with this event as it progresses, and so yet again I will repeat my view that I strongly suspect coverage will grow significantly over time, so at the very least I would suggest leaving things as they are until a week or so after the conclusion of the attempt. If it falters many hundreds of meters from the target, then maybe just include the attempt as a one-liner on the on the mountain page. SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 14:20, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So no then? -Roxy, Zalophus californianus. barcus 15:50, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No indication of independent coverage from
    third-party reliable sources. Press releases and self-published sources do not convey notability. --Kinu t/c 05:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:29, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ajay Kumar Satyal

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Fails

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  • Delete per nom, Other than the bloomberg listing, no evidence of notability is provided. --Muhandes (talk) 19:14, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete a non-notable businessman.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:21, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete per G7. RickinBaltimore (talk) 17:06, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Singing Star of U.P. (reality show)

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The result was keep. Article subject meets the requirements of

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Alice Dwyer

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Per

WP:NACTOR. I could not locate additional sources outside of IMDb page and the one source provided that establish any sort of notability for "appearing in more than seventy films since 2000." Comatmebro (talk) 22:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep Although this article is weakly observable. But there are three more sources of personality[1][2][3] . Mr User:HindWIKI what is your comment? --IamIRAQI (talk) 22:25, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  • Delete per nom. HINDWIKICHAT 23:47, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Both requirements from
    WP:BIO - significant coverage in multiple reliable published secondary sources - are fulfilled. I have added another reference to the article and as HindWIKI already pointed out, many more can be found.Inwind (talk) 00:23, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:27, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Finding almost no coverage to even verify this article. The cheese does not meet

WP:GNG. North America1000 16:04, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete -- not clear if this thing even exists. No sources in the article and none could be found. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:41, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Notability not established, via significant coverage presented in reliable sources. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Olivier Rukundo

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Article claims notability by association. Does not appear to pass

WP:PROF. Main author is the subject himself. Guy (Help!) 14:50, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete post doctoral research fellows are not notable. Way below the level of notability for an academic.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep; significant rewrite/cleanup is desperately needed. However, notability is established and there are secondary sources present and more to be had. Non-admin closure per WP:NAC #1. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Astro (television)

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Regardless of notability, this article would need

WP:TNT. It was written by an undisclosed paid editor, and the sourcing is almost exclusively either the company itself, a Weebly fansite (yes, really), or directory-type information such as market stats. Guy (Help!) 14:46, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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If you want to stub it then I don't object to speedy close, but as-is it's perilously close to G11 material. Guy (Help!) 15:46, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t agree that this article to be deleted. I think we should do a major cleanup to this article by removing bad grammars, promotional-like contents and unnecessary infos, in order to be an encyclopedia article. Fandi89 (talk) 00:49, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but stubify to a neutral state - Although I'm not Malaysian, I am aware of the company as being one of the biggest, if not the biggest television service provider in Malaysia, and a search confirms this status and results in coverage for the company: enough to pass
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  • Keep unarguably this meet notability guideline but AfD
    WP:BCAST, I will work in trimming down the promo language, but we shouldn't destroy while we are building –Ammarpad (talk) 18:32, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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I agree. The Astro article will be deleted soon, I hope any administrators can keep this article. We can do a major cleanup to this article by removing some copyrighted materials and any unneccesary contents. Fandi89 (talk) 04:42, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Notability not established, via significant coverage presented in reliable sources. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:24, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Samantha Ryan

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VP in EA - lacking depth of coverage required for GNG. Note that she shares a name with a more notable, yet seemingly unrelated, porn actress that was deleted in April 2017 - filtering out the porn actress hits in a BEFORE doesn't leave much, and the sourcing in the article is not sufficient. Icewhiz (talk) 14:17, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge with EA Mobile, as that's what she's known for. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:02, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete a non-notable businesswoman.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:03, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. For the present time, anyway. Every source employed in the article can be characterized as one of the following: 1) mentions the article subject only incidentally, 2) does not qualify as a
    WP:secondary or independent of the subject, or 3) fails to establish the kind of in-depth coverage we would need to clarify this individual's notability. The venturebeat.com and GamesIndustry.biz are the only reliable sources which are concerned with Ryan herself, and each is an eight-sentence blurb announcing her appointment. Hardly ongoing and in-depth coverage. Snow let's rap 02:18, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Notability is clearly lacking. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:22, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

International Conference on Cloud Computing

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Sources in article do not establish notability. Content seems

WP:PROMOish. BEFORE does not seem to establish notability of this particular event (although there are a number of similarly named events). I am also nominating International Conference on Services Computing (previously deleted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Conference on Services Computing) and International Congress on Big Data which were created by the same user, with a similar list of references, that are organized by the Services Society Icewhiz (talk) 13:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy delete. The current version meets speedy delete criterion A7 (no claim of notability or importance); the earlier version is still A7 ("lists every known car" isn't a sufficient claim of importance, especially when it then goes on to basically say "except those we don't") and also meets G11 (blatantly a "come look at our website" 'article'). Accordingly I'm going ahead and speedily closing this. The Bushranger One ping only 08:49, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DefineCar

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Fails

WP:CORPDEPTH. Unsourced since 2016 Kleuske (talk) 12:54, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - this article has no references, and the only website cited at the end of the article is DefineCar's own website. Vorbee (talk) 16:28, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:21, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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Bacoor - Las Piñas Boundary Bridge

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Non-notable bridge. I live in Las Piñas and I cannot find any reliable source that can attest to the notability of this bridge. Any material can be incorporated into the parent article on the road,

Daang Hari Road. —seav (talk) 12:53, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • delete just a bridge with no claim to notability. Mangoe (talk) 18:39, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. There is consensus that the subject meets

WP:GEOLAND. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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Unsourced since 2006. Appears to fail WP:GNG. Would this few-line stub not be better served in a larger article? Coin945 (talk) 05:47, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge: any reliably-sourced detail could be made into a paragraph in Bangalore or History of Bangalore. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 13:35, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep This places seems to be a whole village of 6000: [11], [12]. Meets
    WP:GEOLAND as a populated place. Article should be expanded to cover the whole village. MB 21:00, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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    WP:GEOLAND. I've added a couple of reliable sources. The Afded version can also be sourced from articles like this one. There seems to be healthy coverage of it in reliable sources. There also seem to be few historically important sites there. So it can be further expanded & should be kept. BTW, there are zillions of villages/towns in every Indian district, and it's not possible to even list their names in their respective district articles, let alone merging them. - NitinMlk (talk) 21:22, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge to Chronicles (Rush album). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chronicles (video)

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Apparently non-notable video compilation, unsourced since 2006. Coin945 (talk) 05:45, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge to Chronicles (Rush album), since the two are one and the same, but in a different format. The album article should contain everything about the compilation, including the video releases. Mindmatrix 19:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Merge per Mindmatrix. All this really is is a DVD compilation of the songs from that greatest hits album that had music videos to compile for sale on a companion DVD — which means all it really needs is a subsection of the album article rather than its own standalone article, because it isn't really a separate topic. Bearcat (talk) 03:42, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:29, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jessa

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Does not appear to pass

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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aglaophotis

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The article about this fictional plant was PRODded after being unreferenced for ten years. A BEFORE search turned up the OED dicdef as a fictional plant and some blog posts describing its use in several video games. No other independent reliable sources. The article is unlikely to ever grow from the current stub. Text should be merged into an appropriate article and this article converted to a merge. Alone, the topic is trivia and unencyclopedic. Rhadow (talk) 10:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Before AFDing an article, it would be most helpful if the nominating editor would carry out some basic checks like a Google book search. Try clicking the word "books" above and one will see many, many references. I'm all in favour of high quality referencing but just because the article has been unreferenced for 10 years is no reason to delete. We would all be better spending our time adding references rather than conducting deletion debates. Finally, to argue that the topic is "trivia" is a statement of opinion while the assertion that that it is "unencyclopedic" is not supported by the fact that many
WP:RS mention the topic. I have added one reference to demonstrate how improvements can readily be made and if the nominator wants to enter into a Wikipedia wager with me whereby I will take the article beyond a stub if he carries out at least 500 appropriate replacements of template "End box" with "s-end" then I will set to work on the article. Greenshed (talk) 03:12, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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Keep Just because an article has not been referenced for 10 years does not mean references don't exist, it simply means that people haven't found that page in order to add references to it. Similarly, that reason also applies for the article being a stub, if people cannot find/search for the article, then it won't be improved because there is no-one to edit it. It is unnecessary to delete the article if there is sufficient material which can be used to improve it. Generally speaking, I wouldn't flag an article for deletion if I have not contributed to it in the past (as that implies that I wouldn't want to bother improving the article), therefore for these reasons, I think the article should be kept. GippoHippo (talk) 14:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Took me 5 minutes to find two more references. I wasn't even really trying. I'm sure the book mentioned could be cited as well.
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The result was delete. Notability failed to be established by reliable sources (provided sources do not meet requirements of

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Monotronic

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I do not think any of the references are substantial enough to establish notability TheLongTone (talk) 11:57, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Although there isn't anything from the NY Times, there are a number of sources of note that, when added together with the other sources, make the band a notable entity. Here's a Thrillcall entry on the band and some of their music.[1] A 2015 Governors Ball, one of the largest music festivals in New York City, entry on the band.[2] Here is a publishing company, Berghahn Books talking about a book the band leader wrote he cites the experience in the book inspiration for the band. The Google Books link is included as well[3][4] An American Music and Sound article on the Keyboard player as well as his Nord sponsorship page.[5][6] A Modern Drummer article and a Zildjian spotlight on their drummer.[7][8] Evans Drumming talking about the Electronics player.[9] A Pocket Paz Article on their Bass player.[10] A Relix Music Magazine feature from April. As well as their feature on the magazine's soundcloud.[11][12] A V Magazine Summer commercial that uses their music (Down to Earth).[13] A Jam Buzz Festival Feature.[14] A Disk Jam festival feature.[15] And finally, their Google play and Itunes music links.[16][17] Rocckker13 (talk) 23:16, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • This kind of wall-of-text reply doesn't make a strong case. Most of these are just machine-generated discographies or republications of the band's own promotional copy; iTunes does not confer notability! The book the lead singer wrote has nothing to do with the band. The American Music and Sound link looks like it was written by Adam Ahuja himself. Can you point to any articles in reliable sources about the band itself? Pburka (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Monotronic Thrillcall". Thrillcall.
  2. ^ "Governors Ball 2015". Governors Ball Music Festival.
  3. ^ "Being and Becoming | Berghahn Books". www.berghahnbooks.com.
  4. ^ Elkholy, Ramsey (30 May 2016). "Being and Becoming: Embodiment and Experience among the Orang Rimba of Sumatra". Berghahn Books.
  5. ^ "American Music & Sound". www.americanmusicandsound.com.
  6. ^ "Adam Ahuja | Nord Keyboards". www.nordkeyboards.com.
  7. ^ "Doug Yowell | Modern Drummer Magazine". Modern Drummer Magazine. 18 January 2012.
  8. ^ "Doug Yowell". Zildjian. 29 September 2016.
  9. ^ "Evans Drumheads : Artist Detail : Devin Collins". daddario.com.
  10. ^ "Alex H." www.projectkpaz.com.
  11. ^ "April_May Relix Magazine Sampler". Relix.
  12. ^ "Monotronic - Relix April Feature".
  13. ^ "VTV Takes Coney Island in the Season's Brightest Swimwear". 16 June 2017.
  14. ^ "Meeting of the Minds 10 (Music & Camping Festival- Jibberjazz) - Jam Buzz". Jam Buzz.
  15. ^ "Spotlight News – Disc Jam Music Festival". www.spotlightnews.com.
  16. ^ "Monotronic - Music on Google Play".
  17. ^ "Monotronic on Apple Music". itunes.apple.com.
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  • Either delete or maybe redirect to Museum of Love who have a track with this name as the Google News search suggests that this track is more notable than the band here. Of course, they could both be notable but with only 46 hits for "Monotronic", and an even more paltry 5 for "Monotronic" -"museum of love" (and two of those seem to be something technical about cars which I don't care to even look at), I'd be much more inclined to say that neither of them are. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:07, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep According to the notability criteria of the Wikipedia Notability (music) guidelines, the article meets criteria on at least 4 counts:
1. Article subject has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself. Works include: A Relix Magazine sampler[1]. A VTV magazine swimwear commercial that uses their music[2]. A Thrillcall entry on the band including 1 of their albums.[3] A 2015 Governors Ball, one of the largest music festivals in New York City, artist confirmation page.[4] A publishing company, Berghahn Books, talking about a book and the experience within that the band leader cites as the inspiration for the band. The Google Books link too.[5][6] An American Music and Sound article on the Keyboard player as well as his Nord sponsorship page.[7][8] A Modern Drummer article and a Zildjian spotlight on their drummer.[9][10] Evans Drumming talking about the Electronics player.[11] A Pocket Paz Article on their Bass player.[12] A Jam Buzz Festival Feature.[13] A Disk Jam festival feature[14], A Pixel Gateway Feature[15], and finally, their Google play and Itunes music links.[16][17]
2. Article subject is also an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles. Doug Yowell, who has his own google card and has been referenced in drumming publications including Modern Drummer Magazine[18] and Zildjian[19], worked on the film A Home At The End of The World[20], and played with artists including Suzanne Vega and Joe Jackson[21]. Ramsey Elkholy, who wrote a text on an Indonesian tribe[22], has also collaborated as an expert on that tribe in other works including The Continuum Complete International Encyclopedia on Sexuality written by Robert T. Francoeur and Raymond J. Noonan[23] and The Perception of The Enviornment by Tim Ingold[24], and Alex Hayes, a bass player who has studied under and played with Victor Wooten, Edgar Meyer, Steve Bailey, Chuck Rainey and Bela Fleck. Hayes also plays in a separate known band called Uptown Party Down.[25][26]
3. Article subject has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. The Governers ball, one of the largest and most popular music festivals in New York City, drawing in 150,000 attendees annually.[27] Smaller media collaborations include an April magazine sampler for Relix Magazine[28], and being used as the music behind a V Magazine televised commercial.[29]
4. Article subject has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network. Through Governor's Ball which is broadcast over Sirius XM, a satellite radio broadcast service that operates in the United States, Canada, and Puerto Rico[30] And again, the VTV V Magazine televised commercial.[31] Rocckker13 (talk) 22:30, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "April_May Relix Magazine Sampler". Relix.
  2. ^ "VTV Takes Coney Island in the Season's Brightest Swimwear". 16 June 2017.
  3. ^ "Monotronic Thrillcall". Thrillcall.
  4. ^ "Governors Ball 2015". Governors Ball Music Festival.
  5. ^ "Being and Becoming | Berghahn Books". www.berghahnbooks.com.
  6. ^ Elkholy, Ramsey (30 May 2016). "Being and Becoming: Embodiment and Experience among the Orang Rimba of Sumatra". Berghahn Books.
  7. ^ "American Music & Sound". www.americanmusicandsound.com.
  8. ^ "Adam Ahuja | Nord Keyboards". www.nordkeyboards.com.
  9. ^ "Doug Yowell | Modern Drummer Magazine". Modern Drummer Magazine. 18 January 2012.
  10. ^ "Doug Yowell". Zildjian. 29 September 2016.
  11. ^ "Evans Drumheads : Artist Detail : Devin Collins". daddario.com.
  12. ^ "Alex H." www.projectkpaz.com.
  13. ^ "Meeting of the Minds 10 (Music & Camping Festival- Jibberjazz) - Jam Buzz". Jam Buzz.
  14. ^ "Spotlight News – Disc Jam Music Festival". www.spotlightnews.com.
  15. ^ "MONOTRONIC —". 23 July 2017.
  16. ^ "Monotronic - Music on Google Play".
  17. ^ "Monotronic on Apple Music". itunes.apple.com.
  18. ^ "Modern Drummer Magazine". Modern Drummer Magazine.
  19. ^ "Zildjian". Zildjian.com.
  20. ^ "A Home At The End of The World". IMDB.
  21. ^ "Artist Credits". AllMusic.com.
  22. ^ Elkholy, Ramsey (23 May 2016). "Being and Becoming: Embodiment and Experience Among the Orang Rimba of Sumatra". Berghahn Books.
  23. ^ Francoeur, Robert T.; Noonan, Raymond J. (2004). "The Continuum Complete International Encyclopedia of Sexuality". A&C Black.
  24. ^ Ingold, Tim (2000). "The Perception of the Environment: Essays on Livelihood, Dwelling and Skill". Psychology Press.
  25. ^ "Alex Hayes | Folk from Brooklyn, NY". ReverbNation.
  26. ^ "Alex H." www.projectkpaz.com.
  27. ^ "Governors Ball 2015 Artist Page".
  28. ^ "April_May Relix Magazine Sampler". Relix.
  29. ^ "VTV Takes Coney Island in the Season's Brightest Swimwear". 16 June 2017.
  30. ^ "SiriusXM to Broadcast Performances from the Annual Governors Ball Music Festival in New York City". investor.siriusxm.com.
  31. ^ "VTV Takes Coney Island in the Season's Brightest Swimwear". 16 June 2017.
  • Are you claiming Ramsey Elkholy is an independently notable musician because of his work as an anthropologist? Pburka (talk) 20:56, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • No. I am stating that he is independently notable for his work in anthropology and a musician. And further, that Doug Yowell and Alex Hayes are independently notable musicians as well.Rocckker13 (talk) 09:06, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.

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Bounded pointer

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Looks like a dictionary definition to me. It's been untouched since 2006 and a google search doesn't turn up too much to prove notablity. Coin945 (talk) 05:15, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep for now, although I think this should ultimately be merged to either an article about bounds checking or types of pointers (or both). The term is somewhat informally used in Computer Science which complicates the search for a single definition. Working on this requires a bit of time.--DreamLinker (talk) 03:59, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to

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It was prodded by

WP:CORP concern: no significant coverage of the company is evident in the sources provided, all of which do nothing more than describe a luxurious office space.. " It was deprodded by User:Grantbradley88 (creator) with the following rationale "Added history, how it works and controversies sections.". I don't think the added coverage pushes it over the notability threshold. As I discussed in my Signpost Op-Ed, this is a good example of Yellow-Pages like company spam. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:10, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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    The Priceline Group. While rentalcars.com appears to have won a notable award, most of the article isn't really encyclopedic information and could be greatly trimmed. After doing that, the content left may as well be merged to the parent article. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:14, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:17, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cancer phobia

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Lack of reliable sources, especially problematic as it is medical content relevant to

WP:MEDRS and linking chiefly to third-party advertising sources. I'm new to page patrolling, so if this looks like a Speedy Deletion contender, please let me know as it will be helpful for me when going forward. Thanks. Owlsmcgee (talk) 06:28, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • redirect to another article on phobias. Not written in any keepable way, doesn't merit it's own article. Natureium (talk) 16:19, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:TNT? Reading around, what real sources say about fear of cancer concerns dealing with the not irrational fears and with other irrational ideas, but they don't appear to be talking about a genuine specific phobia. Besides, as is typical of those articles here, three-quarters of what we have now is boilerplate language about specific phobias in general, only there's more of that than usual. In general I'm for deletion of articles on particular specific phobias, but in this case it seems to be that there's a real article to be written on the real issues. Mangoe (talk) 20:08, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply
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    carcinophobia. 165.91.13.63 (talk) 02:08, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. rewrite is needed, but I think the term is widely used and is a suitable title. DGG ( talk ) 22:29, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to phobia. Although this topic is notable, we cannot keep it in its current state. Thus, until it is rewritten properly, it should be redirected to phobia. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 12:03, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rewrite and move to carcinophobia or fear of cancer. 92.19.181.249 (talk) 15:30, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I believe it should be moved to Carcinophobia with a rewrite, or deleted, because the current name is not encyclopedic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plaba123 (talkcontribs) 20:20, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Notability established. All discussions regarding what to do next, including merging, should take place at the appropriate venues. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Movie theaters and handpainted movie posters

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Non notable conjecture. It is not even easy to understand what this article is really about and when you do, the content is mixture of stories, books oassagess and analyses –Ammarpad (talk) 19:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. The sources in the article would appear sufficient. Since they are mostly printed, we normally AGF with respect to them unless shown otherwise. the main thing that needs to be done is to change the title, I suggest to 'Hand-painted movie posters in Ghana. If the osurces hold up , this is not in any sense an aessay or OR., andthe sources would seem to show notability . DGG ( talk ) 22:17, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Passes all notability criteria. Significant coverage by a book, another book, a CNN report, an Atlantic report... and so on. Aditya(talkcontribs) 18:45, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have reviewed your sources both CNN and Atlantic are talking about Ghanaian Cinema in general for which movie poster is subset. Being written about in CNN doesn't mean automatic standalone page, especially when the parent page Cinema of Ghana is in need of content and sourcing attention. So at least I agree merging is better than deletion but not standalone page which will later linger with tags for years because it is subsatantially base on 2 reports. And note that, they no longer now paint the posters, it was just CNN report that resuscitate discussion of the art which flourished between 1970's to late 1980s. –Ammarpad (talk) 04:56, 3 December 2017 (UTC) –Modified 09:27, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect to Cinema of Ghana and/or Film poster. I don't think this topic is sufficiently notable as to require a standalone article. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:04, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:15, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dark pop

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This article consists of a one-sentence lead with no backing in any of the sources cited and a "history" section which is little more than a prose-form list of the wide assortment pop/rock bands to which this vague term has been applied. Nothing here suggests this is in any way a recognised music genre and upon a quick Google search, the only article which actually discusses the term argues against its usage. I agree with the author wholly: this "catch-all" term is counterproductive for discussion of musical style and influence. Thankfully I have not seen this added to any infoboxes of note, but the sooner it's deleted from the site, the better. --MASHAUNIX 21:47, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I understand what the nominator is trying to say. In my opinion, the author in the referenced news/op-ed link is giving an exhaustive opinion on "dark pop", which in itself is
    significant coverage adding up to the subject's notability. In fact, this itself too should be included in the current article. My search shows that the term "dark pop" is a very well referenced genre. Billboard, for example, throws up hundreds of articles for the "dark pop" genre, even listing "dark pop" groups amongst the Best Albums of 2017. Google News gives a few thousand results for the term "dark pop". Apple iTunes has a dedicated "dark pop" music preview. Dua Lipa, MUNA et al are variously recognized as dark pop exponents.[18][19][20] Conferences like the "Dark Sound: Destructive Pop 2015" symposium[21] was described as an "event dedicated to dark pop and its recurring themes of lost love, melancholia, death and desire." What I'm trying to put forward here is that there are considerable reliable sources referencing the term. The article can be developed, including not just such references, but even the reference the nominator has put forward. Lourdes 07:53, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Weak delete. There is indeed RS use of "dark pop", but it is usually just to label an artist as it without actually covering what it is. There does not seem to be a definition, let alone a coherent definition. Right now it is whatever you decide it is. I think this is an unusual case of Wikipedia:Too soon, because this genre is likely to be notable in the future, but not at this time. We should wait until the genre matures before we cover it. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  03:33, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Guye, hope you're doing well. In my opinion, as an encyclopedia, we should be documenting all opposing views and descriptions about this genre than perhaps deleting it because there are opposing views. This has been a long existing genre. For example, you have this decently famous dark pop poetry from 1989,[22] or albums like Law and Order by Lindsey Buckingham released in 1981, described as one of the exponents of dark pop.[23] I understand what you mean when you mention that "There is indeed RS use of "dark pop", but it is usually just to label an artist as it without actually covering what it is. There does not seem to be a definition." But in my opinion, reliable sources like this Dark Pop review article by Andrew Ford, or the specific definition of Dark Pop provided at http://repository.falmouth.ac.uk/2232/1/index.html seem quite reasonable for including in the article. I'll leave the decision to your judgement, but personally, I feel that as an encyclopedia, we should be allowing readers to read about such reliable definitions than delete the same. Warmly, Lourdes 05:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Lourdes: Ok, well then I change my mind. I'm more Neutral / Ambivalent now. I'm still uncertain, but if you are finding definitions and such then that's enough for an article. But I still don't know.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  05:38, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Thanks for reconsidering. Warmly, Lourdes 05:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Yunaska

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He is definitely failing

WP:POLITICIAN. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 09:00, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete I am not convinced if he was the head of the sub-department he would be notable, but being the chief of staff in the department clearly not.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:44, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Being chief of staff in a government department is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself, and he does not
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The result was delete. Consensus that the subject does not meet

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Niazi Express

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No in-depth coverage in

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    WP:CORPDEPTH. The only source available are primary and perhaps government press release which doesn't even exist in this case. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:05, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • "1 "calling company " major" by one newspaper is not evidence of notability. Small firm can have an article while large one doesn't, notability is not about large or claim of existence since 1990.
  • You are now derailing to
    significant coverage
    in independent sources, even if they are not called " major company "
  • Soliciting voters to come AfD to help is not allowed, that's called
    canvassing, especially by inviting partisan audience who have already identified with WP:WikiProject BusesAmmarpad (talk) 09:13, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • You're turning this into whole different discussion by this now. And please don't deny or
    wikilawyer your way here. See your edit summary "Inviting editors to an AfD for Niazi Express" diff; why do you think it is appropriate to "invite" people few hours before AfD closes? Would you do that if you are sure it will be closed in your favor??. I also say the "invitees" are partisan, because they identified themselves as members of WP:BUSES, thus, will naturally have certain disposition towards what they are "mass invited" for at the 11th hour. –Ammarpad (talk) 10:02, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • You are doing a Straw man here. My argument is that based on the descriptions on English sources, there is a good chance that Urdu sources exist or pre-internet era sources exist. Could you show me your research of Urdu sources?--DreamLinker (talk) 09:33, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Posting a neutrally worded notification at a relevant Wikiproject is not canvassing. Searching for sources in other relevant languages such as Urdu in this case is a routine part of the research that should be done
    before nominating an article for deletion, and that search in other languages should continue during the AfD process. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • @Cullen328:. I know posting neutrally-worded invitation is not cabvassing. But I don't whether you'll encourage this worded edit summary only one day before AfD closes. Also, the relevant WikiProject is subscriber to WP:Article alerts, which means the AfD has already been in front of the invitees, for as long as it exists here. Ammarpad (talk) 23:14, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ammarpad, there is no evidence of canvassing in the wording of the notification, in the edit summary of the notification or in the timing of the notification. Such a notification is completely appropriate ten minutes after an AfD begins or ten minutes before it is scheduled to end. Please drop the stick. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 09:09, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • No stick @Cullen328:. No even something that looks like stick. I agree. Thanks. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:30, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I would expect a bus service of this size in the United States or Europe to be notable. However, there must be sourcing. The best I can find in English is [33] and in (Google translate-assisted) Urdu is [34] ("During the raid, District Administration team arrested Zabir Niazi, owner of Niazi Express").
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    WP:CORPDEPTH. Need coverage about the company not news stories involving them too. Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:49, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per
    WP:CORPDEPTH. Coverage in presented sources still gives no evidence of notability. Ajf773 (talk) 19:33, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge to Media Worldwide Limited. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:14, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Music India

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All the links provided as reference show nothing. Moreover, no independent and reliable source found for the subject. Dial911 (talk) 04:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I just fixed both of the citations in the article. They both show content, and one is an independent reliable source.
    WP:BROADCAST states "most television stations that produce original content should be presumed notable for Wikipedia purposes." The question is, does this station produce original content? Music videos are original content, but generally not produced by the broadcaster. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:45, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply
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    WP:BROADCAST as it does not broadcast original content. Significant RS coverage not found. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:04, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply
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    As a counterexample, MTV likely would have been considered notable back in the days when it was broadcasting only music videos. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:17, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep as this was one of the first channels to show music videos 24 hours in India. I acknowledge that it is a bit hard to find sources, but I clearly remember watching Music India (along with another channel called B4U Music) for music videos. At that time, India only had MTV and later VH1. These channels enjoyed a lot of viewership because India did not have widespread broadband connectivity at that time.--DreamLinker (talk) 01:43, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will look for sources try to improve the article. Please relist this once as I don't want it to be deleted hastily. In the worst case that it has to be deleted, I would request a merge to Media Worldwide Limited.--DreamLinker (talk) 01:48, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Keepas a channel that once broadcast for international audience it does meet
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    WP:BCAST as 24 popular Indian music channel, I can't get any reference to support standalone page. Only their updated media schedule can be found in indiatimes.com. Plus the parent page is stub too, better develop one meaningful page –Ammarpad (talk) 02:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:13, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:SOFTDELETE, through previously G4ed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Top Model Odgerel and deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Odgerel (Top Model). Icewhiz (talk) 08:29, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 08:32, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

INAANI Pte. Ltd.

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AFC submission as advert and not notable. The author feels he can no longer wait and moved it to main space. Ammarpad (talk) 06:23, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Notability not established during this or any other discussion regarding this article. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:12, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seyed Mohammad Hosseini (presenter)

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I have added his name in Farsi as well as the Farsi word for "presenter" as found in the article about him at fa:سید_محمد_حسینی_(مجری). Sam Sailor 10:59, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Notability not established. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:10, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of MCTS Bus Routes

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Excessive amount of fancruft and original research.

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  • Scores if not hundreds of this type of article have been deleted.Charles (talk) 19:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Eh, so why now? No one else brought it up in the past 7 years before. I think it just needs some more sources cited. I still say keep. Could even rebuild the list up from the ground possible. I don't think this is really much of an issue. Might as well nominate the MCTS article itself for deletion as well if this one is going to go.Coolbird942 (talk) 20:04, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, lets make it fixable, can just go back to the wayback machine and get the links cited for some of the bus routes. I see that a lot on bus route articles. Or any improvements you might have in mind. Most of this information comes from MCTS itself. Coolbird942 (talk) 20:36, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Historical information on routes is better contained in neighborhood articles, street articles, or on an off-site fanpage. Most of the columns of unreferenced material should be eliminated, as they can change quickly (especially the Service Alerts...who would even include such a thing?). In addition to regular sourcing, the list would need secondary sources to establish notability, as sourcing from the transit agency itself can become problematic. SounderBruce 23:55, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which is why I still say keep, but rework it instead of deleting. It's interesting how no one had a problem with it 7 years before, so considering the history, reworking it would be the better option rather than deleting the article instead. There's probably some sources that are out there to make it work in order to establish notability. So if it needs a major overhaul, I would be willing to work on it as i'm able too. So, I don't think deletion's the solution to a 7 year old article. Coolbird942 (talk) 11:26, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep I'll say keep as well. I believe that it needs to be improved in sources. I added in the route 10 to the table and linked some to the same source which I believe is closely affiliated with the subject. I do agree that some of the columns should be deleted. I will start deleting the service alerts. 148.8.23.141 (talk) 17:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus to delete all. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 03:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

T35 Hosting

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The result was delete. No evidence (via reliable sources) has been presented by those asking for the article's retention. Therefore, such arguments hold zero weight here. Do not come to AFD empty handed. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 01:54, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yousaf Jan Utmanzai

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fails to meet

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As per policy, the number of fans or followers a subject has on FB/Twitter or YouTube is irrelevant in a deletion discussion. --Saqib (talk) 06:59, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Not easy to find source for obvious reason. Articles of similar nature have more sources in western countries than developing regions. They might also be in local languages. Saadkhan12345 (talk) 01:43, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Saadkhan12345: Why don't you establish the notability by providing the links to sources in local languages. --Saqib (talk) 04:11, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep- He is famous for exposing crimes like Iqrar ul Hassan, his show "Khyber watch" having 400+ episodes.
If you click here and scroll down you will see in the suggestion searches related to Yousaf Jan Utmanzai "yousaf jan utmanzai wikipedia" it means that there should be a Wikipedia article on him, as people per searches and demands. Wisal Ahmad (talk) 15:16, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously @Wisal Ahmad: ? is this your logic to keep this page? --Saqib (talk) 15:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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@Saqib: I did'nt mean that as you thinking. I mean only notable persons having a Wikipedia articles, and he (Yousaf Jan Utmanzai) is notable so that's why people searching for a Wikipedia artcile? And he is a Pashto language journalist so he is confined to only KPK region. And only KP region know him well. Thanks! Wisal Ahmad (talk) 03:31, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As I said above, you need to establish his notability by providing the links to sources in local languages which discuss the subject. --Saqib (talk) 07:05, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to

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Appears to not meet WP:GNG. Unsourced since 2006. Coin945 (talk) 05:37, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blood on the Honky Tonk Floor

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Appears to fail WP:GNG. Unable to find enough coverage through internet search. Untouched since 2006. Coin945 (talk) 04:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. This article is found to be a definition. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 01:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Application-specific standard product

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Google search doesn't come up with much to verify notability beyond a glorified dictionary definition. Unsourced since 2006. Coin945 (talk) 04:54, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I changed to delete from redirect for some reasons. 1. I already merged some salvageable content and 2. redirect from AfD are easily returned to articles without many people noticing. And also the redirect can be created with only one history which is better –Ammarpad (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 03:08, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Asset management in Singapore

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Fails GNG, INDISCRIMINATE. Wasn't sure if this could be salvaged if redone in a different way, so figured a PROD wasn't appropriate, but it feels like the subject is too esoteric to be saved. South Nashua (talk) 03:43, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 09:08, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Holland has only had one somewhat significant role in a major production. The guidelines require two. We just do not have that, and the sourcing is not really enough to pass the general notability guidelines. John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:12, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:52, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

First Eleven (magazine)

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Cannot find any independent coverage of this magazine, the name of which has since changed from First Eleven to Independent School Parent. I do not believe it meets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(media)#Newspapers.2C_magazines_and_journals. Tacyarg (talk) 00:43, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 08:29, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Pork Chop Hill by Gregory Peck notwithstanding. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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I found an article about his DSC: Former Poly Boy Honored, The Baltimore Sun (Baltimore, Maryland) 31 Jul 1953, page 18, accessed December 11, 2017 at https://www.newspapers.com/clip/15718327/former_poly_boy_honored_the_baltimore/ I've added the ref and some content to the article, but would appreciate it if someone a bit more familiar with reading these citations double checked what I added, as I'm not sure how to summarize these sorts of things. Also, I've fixed the date of the Pork Chop Hill battle, which seems to have been confused with the Triangle Hill battle. Smmurphy(Talk) 22:35, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if I can prove it, but it seems pretty likely to me that Walter Brown Russell, Joseph's father in law, was a brother to Richard Russell Jr.. One of Richard Russell Jr.'s nephews, possibly a brother-in-law to Clemons, received a Legion of Merit for actions in Vietnam in 1965. While neither of those points are terribly useful for this discussion and I don't see a strong reason to include them in this article, if they were verified, I'm making note of them in case it is helpful. Smmurphy(Talk) 23:14, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure this is our guy: "United States World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K859-F8P : 5 December 2014), Joseph G Jr Clemons, enlisted 02 Feb 1946, Baltimore, Maryland, United States; citing "Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, ca. 1938-1946," database, The National Archives: Access to Archival Databases (AAD) (http://aad.archives.gov : National Archives and Records Administration, 2002); NARA NAID 126323, National Archives at College Park, Maryland. This gives us a year and state of birth. He was "recruited" from the Regular Army for USMA. We could actually consider an adding an infobox.--Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 01:58, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I found pretty much the same stuff on ancestry.com - giving a birth date of April 30, 1928. I also found a marriage certificate which gives full names for his parents: [39] and [40]. Smmurphy(Talk) 02:30, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Walter Brown Russell, Clemons' brother-in-law, was also a Georgia state legislator; the gives HIM a page, although I haven't found much except his find-a-grave record and eulogies at the West Point page. I know I'm off topic.--Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 19:39, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Has attracted significant coverage die to participation in an important event. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:03, 15 December 2017 (UTC)4[reply]
  • Keep - I would like to thank all the individuals above that have helped "beef" up Col. Clemons' page over the last several days. As this discussion is supposed to move to the archive early next week, I would just like to formally "cast my vote" for keep based on all the additional information. Frank0051 (talk) 07:30, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I've reformatted all the citations as full academic-style references, and added and cited the Korean War Filmography book (Lentz 2003) found by
    Pork Chop Hill
    , Lentz has the following to say about Clemons in Appendix D, on page 436:
Only a handful of regular soldiers have had movies made about their adventures. Lieutenant Joe Clemons was instrumental in holding a piece of crucial, yet unimportant ground in Pork Chop Hill,...
So much for the idea that Clemons's command was too low-level, or too routine, to be worthy of notice. The notability guideline
WP:N
is all about judging what is "worthy of notice" by what has in fact been taken notice of.
I'm planning to add more references as time allows, especially Joseph I. Marino's HistoryNet article, originally published in Military History magazine in April 2003, and based on S.L.A. "Slam" Marshall's book on the battle of Pork Chop Hill. I suspect that if I had direct access to Marshall's book, I could upgrade this !vote from "Keep" to "Snowball Keep".
Syrenka V (talk) 12:35, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Above-mentioned Joseph I. Marino HistoryNet article now added as a source. There are pages of material in that article to be mined for further main text for Wikipedia. —Syrenka V (talk) 01:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Syrenka V (talk) 13:07, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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