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The result was delete. czar 15:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

EwingCole

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Fails

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  • Delete almost entirely promotionally sourced --DannyS712 (talk) 21:57, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. czar 15:57, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Boss Cheer

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Non-notable web series. Not enough in-depth coverage from reliable independent sources to show it passes

WP:GNG. Currently the sourcing consists mostly of primary sources, with a couple of little more than press releases. Onel5969 TT me 18:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus to delete, with a distinct lean towards keeping as improved. bd2412 T 01:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Thorsen


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No

WP:ARTIST. Created by a SPA in 2009, with a potential COI given they uploaded the high quality image; been flagged since 2010. None of the Awards are verifiable, such that we could establish whether they are significant. The best I could get in a database search was "Haynes, Meghan. "Artist-designed doors merge form, function. (The Details)." Professional Builder [1993], Jan. 2003, p. SS10" which is essentially only a 125 advertisement for a companies services ("To learn more about Artisans Doors of Montana, visit www.artisandoors.com or call 406/756-9737.") Theredproject (talk) 19:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete Despite having achieved "Eagle Scout rank" (really, see article), not notable based on published sources.
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Changed to Weak Keep based on recent refbombing of sources. The sources here are very fringe, but the quantity pushes it over the top.
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  • I'm updating the article's newspaper & magazine references — Preceding unsigned comment added by Froissart1989 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Eric Thorsen is a highly respected figure in the art world. I can testify that many of his awards are verifiable and I will be making some edits to this article to legitimize its worthiness to remain here on Wikipedia. For instance, based on his appearances at the C. M. Russell Show alone he becomes a notable figure in art, and Western art in particular. This is a juried show where wanna be artists and hacks have zero chance of showing their artwork. To delete this article would be preposterous, indeed. I think it should be removed from the "articles considered for deletion" list immediately. ♥Golf (talk)
  • Unfortunately the "CM Russel" museum show does not make for instant notability. It's a cowboy art museum in Montana, not the Guggenheim in New York or the Louvre in Paris. Some of the recently added references (e.g. a ref for "The World Taxidermy and Fish Carving Championships") really say it all.
    talk) 03:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • The above person is clearly an art snob. In his community, Eric regularly volunteers his time. He helps students learn to use 3D printers and apply CADD tools to design, he also aids in a plethora of other STEAM activities. The community is blessed with his time and consistent dedication to student learning. Eric is a brilliant artist, and this cannot be contested. Having travelled the world, spending a university year of Thursdays in le musée du Louvre à Paris, I have seen my fair share of art. From the Art Institute of Chicago to the Cluny, I know enough about sculpture. Simply because the above commentator does not appreciate "cowboy" art, does not mean it has no value. It is part of our history, even if it isn't to everyone's taste. I am not at all a fan of one whole hallway of Italian paintings in the Louvre; does this make them worthless? Of course not. To imply that simply because one lives in Montana he has no talent, taste for art, or sense of what is good art is simply closed-minded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shannaburchwell (talk • contribs) 16:03, 7 March 2019 (UTC) — Shannaburchwell (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
That's all nice, but we judge the notability of subject based on the
talk) 18:56, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I agree that the refbombing with new sources has brought it to a keep status with no policy reasons for deletion, even though the refs are mostly weak very local mentions in the most fringe-like papers you can find.
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  • Weak Keep: The quality of the article was poor and it's still at best mediocre, but the artist is notable at a regional level (His name rang a bell with me, anyway, not that I'm an RS, but...) and looks like additional sources added are adequate. I located the following interview, if it helps any. Montanabw(talk) 23:06, 11 March 2019 (UTC) [1][reply]
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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:49, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Roxy's Ruler

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This is a new scientific theory with no secondary or tertiary sources, and the only primary sources are essentially self-published, not peer-reviewed. At best it is

WP:TOOSOON. The author of the article is the author of the only publications using this name. Lithopsian (talk) 19:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. There doesn't appear to be evidence that this method has been demonstrated or applied in any refereed publications to date, so there is no evidence of notability at this stage. An AAS conference abstract doesn't count as a reliable source per
    WP:SCHOLARSHIP because these abstracts are not vetted or refereed: it just means that the authors presented this as a contributed conference presentation. Aldebarium (talk) 21:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]

*Merge to

Galaxies talk page so that others more knowledgeable about this scientific area can also comment. And @Bbrout: - you responded the right way, but you can indent your comments by putting one or more colons (:) in front of your text, or create a new bullet with an asterisk (*). You can also reply to people by putting their user name in this format in the text: {{re|Bbrout}} TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:16, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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    • @
      WP:N. Aldebarium (talk) 22:43, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
      ]
      • @Aldebarium: You are correct in explaining the sourcing. The reference was to Tulley-Fisher. More references have been included. Independent sources of citation are also now included. The method was referred to in an arXiv article, which has also been included. Regarding whether the method actually works or not, this may be moot; however, as mentioned below, it was said to work by the editors of WikiHow. So your concern that it is not used by other scientists has been responded to. Furthermore, this method was being taught in some American universities and I am searching for evidence of this. More references and citations are being added. Thank you for your critique as it makes the article much better. Bbrout (talk) 18:55, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge or redirect

Thank you for all your comments

Some counter-points should be mentioned here in this discussion. This article concerns a method for finding the distances to galaxies which has not been previously published in Wikipedia. Furthermore, it does not rely on the use of dark matter nor MOND. Those in the discipline of astronomy, both amateur and professional, would know what this means. Therefore, I would request that comments include declarations of conflict of interest if any such conflict exists. I have already declared my conflict of interest on my home page.
The arguments for deletion mention the need for reliable sources. I have copied the linked page and will go through some of the points and respond to them. I think that is fair. I would also like to point out that this being my first article, I have not extensively included all references and it appears obvious these should be included. Therefore a merge and redirect might be very appropriate for now and perhaps, with greater use, it would garner its own article. Please keep in mind this is not a new theory, it is a method for measuring the distances to galaxies which does not involve red shift, luminosity, dark matter nor MOND.
  • What counts as a reliable source

Further information:

Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources
The word "source" when citing sources on Wikipedia has three related meanings: 

   • The piece of work itself (the article, book)
       ◦ The article concerns a conference paper delivered to a AAS conference.
   • The creator of the work (the writer, journalist)
       ◦ I wrote it and delivered it.
   • The publisher of the work 
       ◦ The work was previously vetted by NASA and published on the ADS database. Here http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2016AAS...22810307R

All three can affect reliability. 

   •  Indeed

Articles must be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. Source material must have been published, the definition of which for our purposes is "made available to the public in some form".[7] 

   • This method for measuring the distances to galaxies is also included in WikiHow: How to find the distance to a galaxy. The page has over 9,000 hits and so far, no one has found an error to this method. Also, I would like to mention, that the WikiHow article was listed for deletion when it was published five years ago with the same arguments as listed here; but the article was not deleted by the editors, since it was found to actually work. Therefore, this method has been made available to the public "in some form" for quite some time. 
   • Also, there is tremendous controversy over scientific publication at this time and I do not want to get into that argument. I will say that this method was vetted by NASA and approved to be a conference paper with the American Astronomical Society and included in the ADS database by Harvard.

Bbrout (talk) 22:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I am a newbie and have had to catch up quickly. Thank you to those who lent a hand. There are two categories within the arguments for deletion, although there are variations in the thread. The first is that the author has been rejected by the scientific community along with his work and the second is the argument that the author is attempting to publish original research on Wikipedia.
To respond to the first argument, I uploaded a citing from Hilton Ratclilffe, a rather famous professional astronomer from South Africa. He's retired now. I don't personally know him but in the astronomy business, we sometimes talk to each other. His comments ignited some discussion, which is typical of Hilton. So, to be completely transparent, I have been blacklisted by the arXiv for well over ten years and blacklisted by Nature, the IOP and every other peer reviewed journal in the world. The reason they have done so is because I can prove dark matter does not exist and that the universe is not expanding. All of this has nothing whatsoever to do with the article itself or to it's appropriateness for inclusion in Wikipedia. This is an ad hominem as far as the author is concerned; it makes no difference who the author is. Unless, of course, she is really famous. Regarding content, editors are cherry-picking regarding Hilton and not mentioning Stephen James O'Meara. O'Meara is a world famous astronomer of incredible integrity. Stephen was the first to sight Halley’s Comet on its 1985 return and the first person to determine the rotation period of the distant planet Uranus. One of his most distinguished feats was the visual detection of the mysterious spokes in Saturn’s B-ring before the Voyager spacecraft imaged them. Stephen has been honored with several awards, including the prestigious Lone Star Gazer Award "for setting the standard of excellence in visual observing," the Omega Centauri Award "for advancing astronomy through observation, writing, and promotion, and for sharing his love of the sky", and the Caroline Herschel Award for his planetary discoveries. The International Astronomical Union named Asteroid 3637 O’Meara in his honor. He called me up personally from England to interview me for his book, which is now a standard handbook for both professional and amateur astronomers. I am very humbled by that. Neither he nor Hilton, have ever discredited any of my work let alone the distance measure of which the article, Roxy's Ruler, is about. Also, none of this has anything to do with the acceptability of the article, for or against. All of this is moot. Also as part of the history of the article's formula, the editor of the Astrophysical Journal, Ethan Vishniac, suggested in a phone call that I find a simple formula to determine galactic distance. He ended up blacklisting me because the formula actually works. However, again, that has nothing to do with the article's acceptance. @David notMD: which author, please, takes "my formula" into dispute?
Regarding content: it does not matter if the formula actually works or not. That is nonsense. The detractors cannot say they do not want original research, (which is a point I agree with), and then say articles have to be peer reviewed. Articles in Wikipedia do not have to be peer reviewed and they can be written by anybody. They don't have to "work" or be scientifically correct. They do, however, have to factual. The only reference to my own work in the article is a citation to the ADS abstract of a conference paper. Citations to ADS and to conference papers happen all the time in Wikipedia. The article is not about a conference paper, it's about a method to measure the distances to galaxies which is used by alternative cosmologists, amateur observers, amateur radio astronomers, and is included in a world-famous handbook for astronomical observationalists. It is also taught in some astronomy courses in American universities and colleges[citation needed]. It is controversial because, if it is used, it is discovered that the universe is not physically expanding and that there is no need for dark matter or MOND. The author has been blacklisted by every peer-reviewed journal on the planet and, in spite of that, for some unknown reason, one of his papers was approved by NASA to be given to a congress of the American Astronomical Society. After close to ten years, no one has disproved method's correctness.
This article should not be deleted. It is of interest to the public and it is both useful and factual. It should be kept or merged with another article. You do have an article for Non-standard cosmology, so it might work there. Bbrout (talk) 18:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notice: The above comments were moved as a result of a request by @David notMD: (see talk) and was not intended to disrupt the flow of discussion. Bbrout (talk) 16:12, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • COMMENTS:
@David notMD: asked on my talk page that I back up this article because it was going to be deleted. There is no backup of this article, not in my sandbox nor anywhere on or off line. There is only one copy of the article, which is on the article page. If the article is deleted, it is deleted forever never to return. Ever. There is no trash can and no un-delete key.
Erm... there's nothing stopping you from making a copy at any time, like NOW, you know? (Unless you wish it to be gone forever as some kind of statement...) --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:16, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Elmidae: I don't understand. No "statement", other than silence, would result in the article's deletion. No one would care. Neither you nor anyone else would be able to see it on Wikipedia either now or in the future whether I have a backup or not. There is no reason to have a backup. (Although TBH, I think I saw it somewhere on another site). I am too old to be playing games. I also don't know how and I am not very good at it. If you find the article useful, then I see no reason why you, yourself, couldn't make your own backup although there are references to much better articles and instructions for how to use Roxy's Ruler elsewhere. I have a longer note below to Marchjuly which may clarify. Bbrout (talk) 03:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
PEER REVIEW: I have two rhetorical questions regarding peer review:
1. Should articles in Wikipedia be peer reviewed?
No. Peer review is for original research which does not belong in Wikipedia.
2. Should Wikipedia articles only be about peer reviewed material?
No.
This article is not original research, it is a method to determine the distances to galaxies which ... etc. The conference paper in question is a reference or citation which is not part of the article. That was corrected.
Peer reviewed articles are being retracted at an alarming rate. Peer review does not indicate validation or scientific correctness, it just means that the paper, or whatever, has been reviewed by a member of the scientific community. References and citations in Wikipedia need to be from reliable sources of which peer reviewed articles are included. Citations of conference papers and citations to ADS abstracts are also often made in Wikipedia. Bbrout (talk) 16:42, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Bbrout's own Talk page mentions that astronomy journals have rejected submitted manuscripts. AND mentions an author who takes Rout's formula to dispute the red-shift theory of an expanding universe. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not WikiHow and a conference abstract. David notMD (talk) 08:52, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete
    talk) 16:33, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Speedy Delete No citations, rejected by peer review, OR, lacks notability, et al. Implications challenge mainstream interpretations which sets a high bar for creating an entire article. A
    extragalactic distance scale, if it is not already there) --mikeu talk 22:33, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete This is a textbook case of the type of
    original research which is prohibited from Wikipedia by policy. Mention by a fringe scientist in a dubious journal such as the Journal of Cosmology does not amount to significant coverage in reliable sources. WikiHow may be an entertaining and Interesting website but it is most definitely not a reliable source by Wikipedia's standards, since it consists of user-submitted content without professional editorial review. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:34, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete: per Aldebarium. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:16, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Notwithstanding the above voluminous demonstrations that the author does not understand why we have notability rules: Wikipedia is not the place for the popularizing of scientific concepts or findings; it is a place to summarize them once they have been popularized. Until then, stick to the peer-reviewed publication process. It offers fewer shortcuts but that's the playing field. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:49, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: The "keep" arguments seem to be primarily
    WP:AFC review if or when the concerns expressed in this AfD have been addressed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:35, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    • @Marchjuly: How would I go about following your suggestion? Bbrout (talk) 17:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • @
        re}} only works if the post is signed when you click "Publish changes"; it won't work for unsigned posts and going back to add a signature to an unsigned post won't make it work. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:00, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
        ]
        • @Marchjuly: Thank you. Your comments are very useful. From what you say I don't think there is any value in draftifying or userfying. If the article is deleted I see no way it can come back and I don't want to see it hidden and just taking up people's time for no reason. So I appreciate your direct explanation. The issue has nothing to do with peer review, all of that is just a red herring. The issue is whether or not Roxy's Ruler is original research. I cannot fathom how anyone could see it as such. It is just a way to measure the distances to galaxies which is simple to use and available to anyone. It would never be peer reviewed nor placed in a journal because it is already being used, hence it would not be seen as original research by a journal. And a journal would just put it behind a paywall anyway if it did see it as such. If it is judged to be original research by Wikipedia editors, then it would never be in Wikipedia no matter what happens. However, that is the crux of the argument. Peer review requirements are completely irrelevant. Thanks for giving me a space to state that clearly. If its popularity of use comes to light somehow, and under the circumstances of modern science these days I cannot see how that would happen, then the article would have to be so drastically changed that it would be much easier to start it over from scratch. (That would be the task of some poor unfortunate). I already know what the article says so there is no reason to have a backup. I put the four tildes in before writing this note because I'm old and forget things. Again, thank you for your kind and straightforward comments. tldr: Roxy's Ruler is either original research or it is not. Bbrout (talk) 03:09, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
          • Just want to clarify that a
            requires verifiability to a high degree. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:12, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
            ]
  • Delete per nom -Roxy, the dog. wooF 13:27, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Snow Delete. Article should have never been allowed to have been made in the first place. Was it an
    WP:AFC submission or was the user given creation rights? jps (talk) 11:04, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete The points raised by mikeu and Cullen are compelling. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 13:46, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@
original research and this article is not original research. It should therefore be kept. Not one comment has stated how this is original research. This article is in response, in part, to the requested articles page. Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Natural_sciences. This is a requested article. Comment by User:Cullen328
et al are irrelevant although it does direct towards what original research is. Again, no one has supported their case for deletion by giving any evidence of this article being original research. Much of the comments are treating the article as though it would be a submission to a scientific journal. It would not qualify as such. I am not saying this in anger at all; I am just pointing out what is being said. Wikipedia is not for original research. I therefore ask you, and others, specifically and without hand-waving, how is this article original research? If there is a specific instance of original research in the article, (I think we know what is meant by that: in the article itself), the article could be edited and that be removed.
Continuing on: The article does not claim that dark matter does not exist nor does it claim that the universe is not expanding. (I'm going back to it to make sure it doesn't and editing it if if does). The article says everybody else is finding out that dark matter doesn't exist and that the universe is not expanding by using Roxy's Ruler. (NOTE: This has been removed by another editor). There are no journal articles on Roxy's Ruler because it is not scientific research. There may be some pre-print stuff, but I have not published any peer reviewed articles on Roxy's Ruler. Personally I think the issue here is no one know how Roxy's Ruler actually works. It is certainly not anything new. Spirals were invented by Archimedes and that is public knowledge. Spiral galaxies look like spirals. That is not new and is public knowledge. The speed of light is constant as is the "speed of gravitational influence" and again, that is not new and is public knowledge.
We pick up a ruler which consists of mathematical techniques which have stood the test of time. We hold it up and measure the universe with it. Lo and behold we see the universe is not expanding; it is infinite and eternal. Now, the statement that the universe is not expanding is not a part of Wikipedia as a "new" statement; many people have made that statement elsewhere. That is definitely not original research. I think we all agree on that. However, the fact that people are finding out the universe is not expanding, although not original research, may qualify for an article. Nevertheless, the ruler itself does qualify as a Wikipedia article. (People know about it, it's useful, it's factual and it is of interest to the public). That is obvious. The ruler is not original research. That being said, and to be fair, if anyone can clearly point out, without hand-waving, how Roxy's Ruler, which consists of mathematical techniques that have stood the test of time, is original research, then the delete side wins. If no one can, the keep side wins. Oversimplification: How is a spiral original research?
tl;dr: Wikipedia editors are challenged to state clearly how the Roxy's Ruler article is original research without using an antithesis as a thesis. Bbrout (talk) 20:49, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Roxy's Ruler" is original research because you developed it (it is original to you) and because "Roxy's Ruler" as a topic has not received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of you. Is that clear, Bbrout? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:23, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328: No, it is not clear. Yes, I came up with the formula over ten years ago. That is a conflict of interest which I have declared. It is questionable to be called a "topic", but moving on. Coverage, whatever that means, has been deleted in the article. However, that may be a correct thing for an editor to do. These references included reliable independent sources from myself. You have not answered the question: how is this classified as "research"? How could this possibly be a scientific journal article or part of one? What, specifically, about Roxy's Ruler is research?Bbrout (talk) 23:03, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again, Bbrout. "Topic" in this context refers to the subject of any Wikipedia article, which might be a city or a person or a butterfly or a sculpture or a mathematical theorum or a galaxy or an event in history. "Research" in the policy forbidding original research includes any individual editor's personal experience, personal ideas, personal theories or personal knowledge and anything else that is based on what an editor thinks and knows. It is far broader than academic research and includes drinking games that a person has developed and then tries to write about on Wikipedia. It includes what a Wikipedia editor has learned in their personal life about a famous relative. That is all original research in Wikipedia terms. "Independent" means that the reliable source has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic or the person who developed the topic. When you write "reliable independent sources from myself", that is powerful evidence that you have absolutely no idea how Wikipedia actually works. The closing adminstrator will decide whether your arguments are based on an understanding of Wikipedia policies, or whether I and the other editors recommending deletion understand those policies better. I am quite confident of the outcome. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:17, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings again to you @Cullen328: You are correct on what a topic is and Roxy's Ruler is a topic. I stand corrected. "reliable independent sources from myself" should read "other than myself". That is what I had meant by independent. Whether you are confident or whether I have any idea of what I am doing have nothing to do with the acceptability of the article. However, you are getting to the meat of the issue. Your statement of what is scientific research appears to be something you just made up. This, I think, is the paragraph in original research that may apply:

Original research can take a number of forms, depending on the discipline it pertains to. In experimental work, it typically involves direct or indirect observation of the researched subject(s), e.g., in the laboratory or in the field, documents the methodology, results, and conclusions of an experiment or set of experiments, or offers a novel interpretation of previous results. In analytical work, there are typically some new (for example) mathematical results produced, or a new way of approaching an existing problem. In some subjects which do not typically carry out experimentation or analysis of this kind, the originality is in the particular way existing understanding is changed or re-interpreted based on the outcome of the work of the researcher.[8]

I have made bold the pertinent part. In this case, Roxy's Ruler is classified as original research and you win the argument. I shall delete the article. Bbrout (talk) 00:38, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bbrout, only an uninvolved administrator can delete the article. You are involved and you are not an administrator. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:59, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328: I stand corrected. It seems you are winning all of our arguments :-) Bbrout (talk) 17:37, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Bbrout: This page might qualify for speedy deletion if you blank the page (by removing the current text that you've added) and replace it with {{db-author}}. That is the process for requesting deletion. Please leave the existing notice about article for deletion in place though. --mikeu talk 10:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete. Hi @Cullen328:, co-author of original article here, thanks for your guidance. The distance measure is pretty simple to derive and the comparison to TF and Ceiphids shows that it's accurate, so while I understand that it does constitutes OR, it may still be interesting or useful. Is there any other recommended forum for discussing new topics? I'm sure you can imagine how hard it is to find a forum to discuss a method that calculates unexpected results despite the straightforwardness of its derivation. We've shared this measure at conferences at the AAS, the Canadian Association of Physicists, the National Radio Observatory at Greenbank, Stanford University, and Embry-Riddle, and has always garnered some interesting conversation.

  • Comment: The above vote was a copy-paste error. I intended to vote to keep.
@Cameronrout: The above comment is not signed. You need to sign your comments with four tildes at the end of it. Otherwise the ping won't go through. Bbrout (talk) 17:39, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. ::@Cameronrout: One last comment after reviewing the the complete discussion. I'm not sure if through all of this it was noticed that the work is described in Stephen James O'Meara's book ten years ago, this seems to be ignored by all Delete votes. O'Meara is a popular and respected author on the topic which I believe makes a strong case for it being interesting to the community and no longer original. Cameronrout (talk) 19:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: The above comment pings the originator of the comment. Perhaps it should ping @Cullen328:? Bbrout (talk) 19:43, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment As mentioned above, Cameron Rout is a co-author with Bruce Rout on reference #5, and presumably a family member. Does not preclude Cameronrout from voting Keep, but not an independent opinion. Adding O'Meara as a reference does not absolve this article from being original research, unpublished in peer-reviewed astrophysics journals. David notMD (talk) 00:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Coment No @David notMD:, it does. This is a direct quote used by Wikipedia itself:

Primary sources are original materials on which other research is based, including:

original written works – poems, diaries, court records, interviews, surveys , and original research/fieldwork, and research published in scholarly/academic journals.
— -http://libguides.merrimack.edu/research_help/Sources, originating from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_source

May I add that conference papers, depending on the conference, are often used as reliable sources on Wikipedia. I have run into tons of them in using references in papers which both I and Cameronrout write. That being said, the issue is, I think, some independent reliable source after the fact. Bbrout (talk) 02:55, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    • @
      WP:SOCK; so, if these might apply to you and you didn't know such things weren't allowed, you should clarify things before it gets too late to do so because the consequences can be quite harsh if you don't. As for the link you've provided, it's simply to an Amazon page about a book; it's not really an example of the type of significant coverage others have been mentioning in above. It might help if you can provide more (i.e. page numbers, etc.) details on what the book says about "Roxy's Ruler" on the talk page of this AfD discussion for the benefit of others. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:21, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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    • @Marchjuly: I'll let Cameronrout speak for himself. He was listed as a co-author of a conference paper on reference 5 in the article. He has a conflict of interest which I am sure he is willing to declare, but he may not know how. Unfortunately, neither do I. Perhaps you can help him with that. The link concerning "it's simply to an Amazon page about a book" refers to, what is now, reference 13 in the article complete with page numbers and so on. It was mentioned in my lengthy comment above. An editor had deleted it and this has caused confusion. It has been added back in. O'Meara, Stephen. The secret deep. Cambridge University Press. pp. 186–188. ISBN 978-0521198769. Bbrout (talk) 02:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that Cameron Rout is a family member, not Sock Puppet. And not Meat, either, as having been co-author of a paper means not just a warm body added to the chorus. My point in pointing out the name connection is that Cameronrout should have been clearer about the connection. And with this comment, I am out of here, as nothing else to add. David notMD (talk) 03:16, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Marchjuly: The first thing I mentioned above was that I am co-author on the paper, as noted by David notMD. I don't know how to make my connection to the topic any more clear and I have no idea why the fact my account is over a decade old should be a strike against my legitimacy compared to the fact that I actually co-authored the discovery in question. I find your comments and several others in this thread to be hostile and pretentious, betraying extreme biases in the selectivity of comments. The voracity and haste at which this article was ripped apart with references and details deleted wholesale without any conversation has me concerned and has made it very difficult to explain clearly why this is a reasonable topic for inclusion because every response is only exposed to half of the information provided. I am jumping in now to comment for the first time in a decade simply because it's the first time I've had to defend myself from such professional miscategorization. For the sake of my own reputation, I think it's important to have a chance to state for the record why this topic is interesting and should be in Wikipedia, especially after the brutal cherry-picking, interference, and near name-calling I've had to endure by reading this thread.

It's okay to believe that we are quacks, it's okay to believe that the method does not work despite the validation provided, it's okay to think that the Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers does not qualify as a valid scientific community or should never have invited us to 3 of their conferences, it's okay to think that the American Astronomical Society and the Canadian Association of Physicists are not qualified to determine this topic is of interest to the scientific community by inviting us to their national conferences, it's okay that you think a topic has to be peer reviewed rather than only published in texts like O'Meara's in order to be on Wikipedia, but it doesn't, and your own rules of your own community state that none of these opinions should prevent this obviously interesting topic from being documented.

THIS TOPIC IS CONTROVERSIAL. Why is that a problem? It's also fascinating and well validated and has generated hundreds of interesting conversations across the country over the years. Instead of embracing an interesting but controversial topic and simply documenting it, this community is trying to make declarations as to which sources should constitute legitimacy. I do not believe that is the purpose of this community at all and I would like to see those involved in this process start applying the principles with judicious objectivity.Cameronrout (talk) 07:05, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, The process has not been proved to be correct yet. Alex-h (talk) 18:10, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:38, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No significant coverage in reliable sources and no evidence of satisfying

WP:MUSICBIO. GSS (talk|c|em) 18:47, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:37, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails

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Please tell me what is wrong with this and I will fix it. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by UNC2 (talk • contribs) 19:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There aren't enough independent, reliable sources that cover the subject in detail. Please read the policies I cited above.--TM 01:12, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:38, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Contested PROD. Subject does not meet

WP:BEFORE search doesn’t indicate this is the case yet. Rikster2 (talk) 18:32, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I added more reliable sources, if there is anything else I need to add I will just please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UNC2 (talk • contribs) 19:02, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I added another source I think is reliable also ESPN should be a reliable sense it is one of the biggest in the sports news industry’s and it fits the reliable source credentials. If there is anything else please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UNC2 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sure ESPN is reliable. But you posted his recruiting profile which literally every D1 player has in there - that is not substantial coverage. Rikster2 (talk) 19:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Isn’t Albany Times Union News a reliable source. UNC2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by UNC2 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It’s routine coverage. Again, anyone who signs with a D1 school is going to get a short blurb in their hometown paper. That’s not “Gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team“ like
WP:NCOLLATH states. Rikster2 (talk) 19:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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There is nothing I can do so if you have to get rid of it you can. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UNC2 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:40, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rijas Rammar

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I tried searching by his name in Urdu, birth name and AKA and found nothing in the way of coverage and very little in the way of even unreliable sources to support the only significant claim in the article. Fails GNG/N...everything. Praxidicae (talk) 18:22, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:41, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No independent third party sources support this subject as being notable. References consist of only primary sources, including articles she personally wrote, a LinkedIn page, and so on. Also, this is pretty much PR for the subject and her affiliate companies. The Polish sources can be translated well enough with Google Translate. Steve Quinn (talk) 17:24, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:44, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dillon Kivo

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This article has a great many sources. However, none of them meet our criteria for independent, reliable sources. Even the ones that are in nominally mainstream publications (e.g., the Chicago Tribune) are by 'community contributors' — or Dillon himself. Really, the only reason I'm not just putting this through speedy or prod is that it was created by someone who's been around for a while and a) should know better and b) will probably protest if it's deleted without a full AfD. DS (talk) 16:28, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep as a creator of this article. First of all, i've contributed numerous article of wikipedia. The admin who has put afd on this article hasn't done it on proper way as i did't got any notice. Thirdly, the community contributor on chicago tribune who published his article is in different name (Dillon hasn't kept himeslf) cause in large publications the editors and journalist are also named as contributor cause they cobtribute an article and last thing is he has been featured on forbes and various other international indpeendt mag and independent news sources which shows he is notable and he has won "National Honor Society" award too. [2] so, any other discussions are welcome here and article should be kept.
    Talk 17:09, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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One piece published today in the Capital Gazette does not equate to significant in depth coverage. Particularly when the piece is mostly an interview, puff piece and written by a contributor and not their editorial staff. Praxidicae (talk) 17:47, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom and my above comment. Praxidicae (talk) 17:47, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, no indication of notability. The piece highlighted by Azkord above is yet another one by a "Contributing Reader" or "Community Contributor". In fact, it's credited to the same name as the Chicago Tribune piece and the Daily Press piece. No, staff journalists aren't called that. The Capital Gazette has a dedicated FAQ about community contributors here and clearly distinguishes between them on the one hand and "Baltimore Sun Media Group newsrooms and trusted third-party vendors" on the other. None of the other sources cited in the article are of better quality. Huon (talk) 19:18, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - the article was created on March 3. On March 6 we have this. That's... quick. Huon (talk) 16:16, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And on that note, Azkord can you explain how you assessed notability and wrote this article supposedly based on the Capital Gazette source which wasn't even published until 7 days after you created the article? Praxidicae (talk) 17:50, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Azkord That doesn't even remotely begin to answer my question. You assessed notability on March 3rd, based on a source that did not exist until March 10th. How? Are you a time traveler? Praxidicae (talk) 17:56, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And i am not claiming notability here. I was mentioning the new article which i found on google i think i have right to do that and if you think that it claims notabilty than in what based you're commenting that the article should be deleted?
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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:47, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclio

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Poorly sourced, promotional article about unremarkable software. Fails

covert advertising. MER-C 15:29, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Delete Needs more secondary sources. Does not meet
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The result was keep.

(non-admin closure) Tymon.r Do you have any questions? 14:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Beer Chips

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Non-notable Amisom (talk) 14:51, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep article includes links to eight sources, including multiple dedicated articles from independent sources. --Danski454 (talk) 20:13, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – Meets GNG. See the sources I presented in the last AfD discussion for examples (some are 404 now). More sources exist in addition to these as well. North America1000 08:53, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. References in article meet
    WP:GNG (the Washingtom Post is a quality WP:SIGCOV). Tricky product to search for given "generic name", but when combined with the founders name, even more decent references turn up (e.g. here from Cigar Aficionado). I don't see how its notability has decreased from the 2014 AfD? Britishfinance (talk) 00:00, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete.

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Death of Mohammad Habali

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Sad, but does pass

WP:LASTING impact of this sad event is unclear. Icewhiz (talk) 12:13, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I think you rushed into this nomination given the fact that the last sources dealing with this subject date back to 2-3 months ago, which are not too far from us! --Mhhossein talk 14:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The sources are all confined to the month of the event (+ a little bit of spillover to the next month - in less reliable or non-reliable sources) - this is a rather strong indication of lack of continuing coverage. In Dec/Jan it might have been worth waiting a bit for the nomination to see if coverage continues - but we're now in March. Icewhiz (talk) 15:02, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comment but I should add that the Btselem source belongs to less than 2 months ago. --Mhhossein talk 09:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just like Killing of Esther Ohana. --Mhhossein talk 18:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Esther Ohana was killed in 1983. The page was started last year. If you run a search of her name in books or news, you will find
Killing of Aya Maasarwe, to understand the types of coverage that are lacking on this page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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That's why I say it's too soon to say the subject in question fails
WP:LASTING given the latest sources being published some ten days ago. --Mhhossein talk 14:12, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Then you need to see
WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE: "However, this may be difficult or impossible to determine shortly after the event occurs, as editors cannot know whether an event will receive further coverage or not. That an event occurred recently does not in itself make it non-notable." --Mhhossein talk 14:16, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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we here are assessing the notability after 4 months of the event. By no stretch of imagination can 4 months, be considered "shortly after the event occurs" --DBigXrayᗙ 15:00, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And we have sources for some ten days ago. --Mhhossein talk 16:24, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
E.M.Gregory:
WP:LASTING for an event to be notable.VR talk 04:09, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The problem is that this event has neither
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gNews is not going to be our criteria! There's no guideline saying the sources should be News outlet. It's too soon to speak about the sustained coverage and, as I said, the OP just rushed into this nomination. --Mhhossein talk 13:19, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please re-read
WP:RS covering this event beyond a brief 3 - 4 week period when it happened.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:24, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
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Not three months! The latest source dealing with the subject belongs to almost 20 days ago and another source belongs to almost 50 days ago. --Mhhossein talk 20:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
EI is not reliable, and furthermore is on a different topic, covering this incident in a single sentence - a passing mention. That this is being presented here as a source.... Actually proves lack of substantial continuing coverage.Icewhiz (talk) 20:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that Mhhossein is page creator.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:33, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per lack of RSs continuing coverage since the event. If more coverage is found in RSs in the future, then the page should be re-created, until then, delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 10:53, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete non notable death during military response to civil disturbance.A.Jacobin (talk) 14:32, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's the IDF POV, not a fact! Numerous reliable sources, including Israeli sources, casted doubt over the claim by the IDF. --Mhhossein talk 19:20, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's a perfectly valid interpretation of the level of sourcing.
No personal attacks applies here, as it's a direct implication that you believe this user is displaying bias. When frankly the only person whose been pushing a POV and non-collaboration with other users is you. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:02, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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It was a wrong interpretation of my comment. No, I did not say he was "displaying bias". @Joseph2302: You need to be warned against casting aspersions. --Mhhossein talk 11:22, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Time line of the most recent sources: There had been a reasonable number of English sources months after the incident:
For 'Sustained' to be applied, it's not needed for a subject to be covered by sources every day. Moreover, "sufficiently significant period of time" is needed to say whether or not there's a sustained coverage.--Mhhossein talk 13:21, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • These sources are: a blog; a brief mention in a wire service story - we don't know the date of the wire service story, only that it was picked up by a newspaper 2 months ago; a mention by partisan org
    WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:44, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Indeed this list of "sources" actually indicates lack of notability - if this is the best that can be found.Icewhiz (talk) 21:31, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with the above two comments. Sources are insufficient. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:59, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 11:30, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kashmir Sports Watch

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This magazine appear to fail at

WP:GNG. No substantial coverage in reliable source can be traced. Tone is promotional too. Hitro talk 09:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Speedy Delete.
    WP:G11. --Hiwilms (talk) 13:32, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  •  Comment: Hi there, Actually at first when I created this page, I knew almost nothing about Wikipedia guidelines and had put in wrong references for the page: Kashmir Sports Watch. However, later after learning the basics, I edited the piece and placed the proper, reliable sources in the article. The magazine is registered under Newspapers Registrar for India (NRI), whose reference I have added to the piece alongside few other valuable sources. Since, it's the only sports magazine existing in Kashmir at now, I being a sports fanatic read it quite often. So, having a page of it on Wikipedia makes sense, for sure. If someone from senior editors can now take a look at this page and let me know what's lacking in it and how can it be removed from under deletion articles. Thanks Mohsin Kamal (talk) 13:24, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or redirect per
    due weight to mention it on the article for the place, in a "Media" section which you can create, in which case the article can be redirected there. Alpha3031 (t • c) 07:17, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. The discussion concluded that the subject is not notable. There was some discussion of a merge, but it did not gain consensus. However, if so advised any editor could discuss doing so at the proposed target's talk page Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 18:28, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of accredited naturopathic medicine programs

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List article which merely refects the website of a non-notable accreditation body. Article was

restored following a PROD. There's no evidence of wider interest in the subject, or the Council. Wikipedia isn't free web-hosting. Time for it to go or, if the accrediting body proves to be notable in the future, it could be added there. Sionk (talk) 12:16, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment (Article author) - Lol at the tagging with both a PROMO and COI. I prefer that the topic go through AFD, rather than through PROD/CSD. And yes, the institutions listed may appear questionable...this is naturopathy...but that doesn't impact relevance or notability. The Council on Naturopathic Medical Education is the accreditation arm of the Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (the accredited schools that allow Naturopaths to get licensed and practice in certain states). Also, the log only shows the page was deleted once.GobsPint (talk) 16:57, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the Lol is that the above comment was only your 48th edit in WP; hence the additional UDP concern. Britishfinance (talk) 17:34, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Withdrawn by the nominator.

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Pierre de Saintignon

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Fails

WP:POLITICIAN; seems to be a failed candidate for a provincial position. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 10:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • The article says in 1998, 2004 and 2010 he was elected councilor the Regional Council of Nord-Pas-de-Calais, where he sits as First Vice-President, in charge of Economical Development. So what ? Elected three times, failed once: he deserves articles, doesn't he ? Pldx1 (talk) 16:33, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the subject of this article had a significant political career in a number of roles over an extended period of time. Mccapra (talk) 20:06, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw. Although some of the previous reasons for keeping are invalid, as Nord-Pas-de-Calais is a first-level subnational jurisdiction, there is enough there meet
    WP:POLITICIAN. The article is almost entirely about his failed candidacy. It appears I missed the successful sections. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:53, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 09:49, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vishnu Vikram

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All of the references in the external links section are either

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  • Delete. Failed to show importance/notability. --Hiwilms (talk) 18:18, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*AGF I think it should not be deleted this person has done some work according to some large media which the author has cited. though it needs more reliable sources. MrZINE 10:39, 27 February 2019 (UTC) Editor indefinitely blocked as sockpuppet. Richard3120 (talk) 16:09, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't see where I'm not assuming good faith. SITH (talk) 17:54, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Filmibeat is a long way from being an RS. Richard3120 (talk) 16:11, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. The views in favour of keeping are more convincing here, with evidence provided after the last relist to back them up. Michig (talk) 07:52, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile Legends: Bang Bang

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Other than the developer being sued by Riot, it doesn't appear that there's anything about this game to meet

reliable sources. Horst.Burkhardt (talk) 15:41, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment Another mobile MOBA in a big crowd. My
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I will remove my delete vote because of the recent development. The game may become notable soon thanks to the ESports spotlight (the coverage it gets is pure
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  • Keep agree per above, and that game included in Sea Game 2019."KoKoChitChit" (talk) 08:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete, it's a recently developed game without reliable independent non-fansite coverage. It needs to do more than exist to meet WP:GNG. Sionk (talk) 14:09, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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GMA News [10], TechBarrista [11]. These all are Fansite coverages?. Hninthuzar (talk) 15:11, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. A reasonable case was made for notability, but it did not carry the day as consensus formed around the idea that the subject failed

WP:DIRECTOR and did not meet the GNG. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 18:20, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Anuram

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Non notable director. Seems to have directed 2 movies, of which 1 seems barely notable. All the refs are about the movies, and none are about the person. Fails

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4c would also be a viable variant under that Nosebagbear (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. It seems that absent signs of meeting GNG, "deputy ambassador" isn't enough ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:29, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shani Calyaneratne Karunaratne

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If ambassadors are not considered inherently notable then deputy ambassadors certainly aren't. Does not meet

WP:GNG. Obi2canibe (talk) 13:55, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Comment, the award is a non-notable award and the references provided don't make any mention that she was the 'first', as asserted above. Her achievements in being presented with this award are not particularly notable. There also many in Sri Lanka who consider that the
Magampura Mahinda Rajapaksa Port
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Comment Wikipedia is not a place for political activism. This is a place to keep records which are historically accurate. As a Sri Lankan, I fully understand your anti China point of view. However, under the Belt and Road Initiative, this is a notable award and I will provide where it says that this is first this sort of award given out. ~Love | Peace | Care without any differences.. 14:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nirvanatoday (talk • contribs)
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  • Keep this is the first time a Sri Lankan at any diplomat level abled to reach Super Ambassador level under the chinese flagship Belt & Road Initiative. This achievement is either positive or negative in the geopolitical arena has recognized her above the Sri Lankan Ambassador to China. As an editor, I'm keeping a record of subjects that I find important to Sri Lanka. Further, as I said, I will be adding detailed more information about her 33 years of service as a public officer. NirvanaTodayt@lk 03:05, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

— Duplicate vote: Nirvanatoday (talk • contribs) has already cast a vote above.

Comment, Nirvanatoday has previously submitted a Keep vote under the signature ~Love | Peace | Care without any differences... Dan arndt (talk) 03:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep The person in question received national honors at the International Women's Day national event in Sri Lanka for her achievements in diplomatic arena. I updated reference to that. – NirvanaTodayt@lk 01:46, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

— Duplicate vote: Nirvanatoday (talk • contribs) has already cast a vote above.

Comment neither reference provided specifically mentions Karunaratne as either an attendee or receiving an award. Noting that Nirvanatoday makes a general statement that it was a ‘national honour‘ without stating what the honour actually was. Also Nirvanatoday continues to cast multiple votes contrary to WP policies. Dan arndt (talk) 02:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Reply I'm not aware of the policy of voting. Since it is a relist, I thought people should vote again. Please do advise me on a link regarding the WP policy of the voting. If you check the 2 links, the President of Sri Lanka presents the award to the lady in the picture you can cross reference the feature image verse the profile picture of the article. I'm trying to take this article out of the deletion queue to ease my editing process. Also try to learn what how you handle these sort of discussions on women's achievements in smaller developing countries. – NirvanaTodayt@lk 03:33, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment by providing multiple Keep votes you are giving the impression that you are attempting to vote stack the discussion. Simply indicate once what your view is (i.e. Keep or Delete) and then if you believe that you have further information that supports your initial view then provide that as an additional comment not as an additional Keep vote. In respect to the references provided what you are doing is bordering on
synthesis from that source material. Based on the images that you have subsequently provided it would appear that the award is not a national honour as you have stated but simply a recognition of her achievement as 'Silk Road Ambassador' (a non-notable award). Dan arndt (talk) 04:16, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:37, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Rajkumar Thakuriya

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Other than pr puff pieces, no in-depth coverage to show they meet

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The result was delete. Sandstein 09:48, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Fiennes

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I couldn't find sources or information to show she meets

WP:GNG. Information came up for Elizabeth Clinton, Countess of Lincoln (sometimes called Elizabeth Fiennes de Clinton) and for Elizabeth Fiennes nee Blount, mistress of Henry VIII usually referred to as Elizabeth Blount, but not this woman. I think it should be deleted, then made a dab to the two women mentioned above, and a link to *Elizabeth Fiennes, wife of John Clinton, 6th Baron Clinton. Boleyn (talk) 09:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete -- I see nothing notable in the article. Possibly merge to her husband. I noted two misspellings: Maxstoke (Castle) and Tredegar (house near Newport), the latter perhaps reproducing an archaic spelling. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:15, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    If something is merged to the husband (which already mentions her and most of what isn't genealogical speculation - so I don't see much to merge here) - this page should still be a DAB for Elizabeth Clinton, Countess of Lincoln and Elizabeth Blount who are both known under this name (more than this individual, who possibly could also be in the DAB (to the husband).Icewhiz (talk) 17:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There’s no evidence that the subject of this article is covered in enough detail in reliable sources to warrant a stand-alone article. It may be that it is appropriate to merge/redirect/dab this page rather than straight delete but I’m not aware enough of all the details to know whether that is appropriate. Eldumpo (talk) 23:16, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I'm skeptical Fiennes is encyclopedic, given a lack of biographical detail known about her life. Also, there seems to be enough uncertainty and inconsistency in what is known of her story that OR may be required to improve the article to encyclopedic status. Smmurphy(Talk) 20:10, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:36, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Gil_Lavi

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Fails WP:CREATIVE, this fact has not changed since the last deletion even though the page was republished. Brianvan (talk) 05:24, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete and salt He's a commercial photographer; there does not seem to be more to the story than that. When I search all I can find are lousy sources, and there aren't that many overall. The available sourcing is quite weak. I removed four non-RS sources from the article, ranging from Youtube to personal blogs to an item he himself had published.
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The result was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 14:17, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Asset Liquidation Marketing Integration Within Asset Management Framework

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Two sources provided are dead and IAbot can’t find them. I thought at first there were multiple other sources from Google books but all of these seem to be directory-type books created by compiling Wikipedia articles rather than substantive texts that describe the topic independently and meaningfully. I don’t think there’s any evidence of notability. Mccapra (talk) 06:32, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 07:38, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Dimensional Shift in Intelligence - An Expository Approach

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As the text of the article makes clear and early versions of this article state explicitly, this is a student essay, not an encyclopedia article. The

original research). My earlier prod was removed by the sole editor of this article, an editor whose only contributions have been to this article (how is that even possible?) with the only explanation being "editing headings and sections". —David Eppstein (talk) 06:00, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete In full agreement with David on this one. This is an essay representing an individual's take on a fairly complex subject (which adds
    WP:UNDUE concerns) and not an actual encyclopedia article. Pichpich (talk) 17:03, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete I considered a merge with J. P. Guilford as this article seems to be about that person's theories. However this contains only uncritical commentary and no third-party sources on Guilford or his work.--Pontificalibus 08:04, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This seems surplus to requirements, and going nowhere needed. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:43, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Looks like your run-of-the-mill student essay. Not encyclopedic. — Stevey7788 (talk) 23:47, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 09:47, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Kinyon

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Actor with little notability. Has only been in one notable film and that is it. (Another old article that has been around forever) Wgolf (talk) 04:48, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Consensus is for the article to be retained. North America1000 03:47, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Luntley

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This is borderline, but I can't see where he passes

WP:ACADEMIC. He has a couple of books which have been cited about 100 times over the last decade or two, but I don't think that passes the threshold of notability. Onel5969 TT me 13:58, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply
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    WP:NAUTHOR, apart from anything else. Four of his books have Wikipedia articles, and each article includes references to at least two reviews. In addition, although the book Reason, Truth and Self does not have a WP article, I have found reviews of it in International Studies in the Philosophy of Science (July 1996, Vol. 10 Issue: Number 2 p173-179), and International Journal of Philosophical Studies (October 1997, Vol. 5 Issue: Number 3 p449-491). RebeccaGreen (talk) 04:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Comment - You do realize that all 4 of those WP articles on his books have been recently created, all by the same editor? All four of which are virtually copy and paste of each other, ending with "...along with being widely cited in its field." Looking on Google Scholar, he doesn't have a profile. Wittgenstein: Opening Investigations was cited by a whopping 9; Wittgenstein: Meaning and Judgement did get quoted by an anemic 88; Contemporary Philosophy of Thought did get a whopping (yet still anemic 101, and The Meaning of Socialism I can't even find a real citation count on that. And having several books with minimal reviews zero of the 4 criteria of
WP:NAUTHOR. Onel5969 TT me 04:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Reply
WP:NAUTHOR
does not require that an author's books are independently notable. #3 states "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of .... multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." There are multiple independent reviews of his works, published in journals in his field, so within his field his works will be well-known. Whether or not the WP articles about the books are kept, the reviews can be added as references to this article.
With regards to
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The result was soft delete.

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Dave Crenshaw

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This article was created by an undisclosed paid editor and has been further expanded by his sockpuppets. I believe that this article needs to be examined to determine if it's worth keeping and/or if it needs to be adjusted significantly. only (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment- The problem in this page is not notability, it easily pass
    WP:AFD, it is increasing workload for admins here which can be avoided. 157.37.243.101 (talk) 04:43, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep.

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Gerardo Flores

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All murderers aren't notable, in fact, most probably aren't and I can see no evidence that this case garnered anything more than brief local attention. Fails GNG,

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The result was nomination withdrawn —Kusma (t·c) 10:10, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Birgitta Tolksdorf

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Actress with little notability who has only been in one role on a soap opera. Can't tell how notable she is, but her name isn't even on the page for the show. Wgolf (talk) 03:30, 10 March 2019 (UTC) Withdrawn' Wgolf (talk) 17:22, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment There is a fair amount of coverage about her in newspapers of the time. She was also in some theatre performances, so may meet
    WP:GNG. I will add some sources to the article. (She also changed her name to Gittanna Tolksdorf in 1979.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:39, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Withdrawn-Thanks for adding info on her. I'm withdrawing this (was having a hard time finding info on her earlier). Wgolf (talk) 17:22, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Regardless of whether or not she meets
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The result was keep.

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Healing School

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WP:BEFORE failed to bring up anything of note. Kirbanzo(userpage - talk - contribs) 20:59, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Keep. I've rewritten the article and added sourcing. This school is not the easiest to search for because of its name, but as an outstanding school and a teaching school there's enough there to satisfy
WP:NSCHOOL. Not an edge case by any means. (Article needs moving to current school name.) Tacyarg (talk) 23:47, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Thanks for your response. Re sufficiency of article, I think AfD is for notability rather than whether the article is good enough? Tacyarg (talk) 12:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment At worst it should be redirected to
    WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. There's no reason to delete this. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge to Chuck Norris#Chun Kuk Do. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:34, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chun Kuk Do

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May not be notable. Most references are written by primary sources

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  • Keep or merge to Chuck Norris. I found a couple of articles in Black Belt ([14], [15]), and there are other book sources for which I can't tell how extensive the coverage is. --Michig (talk) 08:59, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Merge to Chuck Norris a non notable martial art. Dwanyewest (talk) 13:25, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect or Merge to Chuck Norris#Chun Kuk Do No indication that this is a notable style or has significant independent coverage so I see no reason for an individual article. However, it does seem reasonable to redirect or merge it into the already existing section at founder Chuck Norris's article. Papaursa (talk) 23:46, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:30, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cork–Derry Gaelic football rivalry

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There is no geographic proximity, these teams have only met once and the concept of a rivalry is not covered directly in RS. None of the criteria for a notable sporting rivalry is met. Fails

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:30, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Niclas Fronda

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Yet another oldie that has been around for a while. Anyway person with questionable notability. Page has been around since 2005 (!) and not much else to say for this, he does not seem to have any notable things he has done either. Wgolf (talk) 02:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Article is a stub that has not been improved in eons. You would think the subject would have gained notability by now.TH1980 (talk) 03:40, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:30, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kiwiberri

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WP:PROD. The only reliable source mentioned are spam like by the way, they also claim to be the first self-service frozen yoghurt in New Zealand. Sheldybett (talk) 01:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I admit that I had not considered that possibility.
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  • Delete Article is promotional in tone and lacks sourcing.TH1980 (talk) 03:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete.This reads like spam to me. I can find one mention online in a reliable source. They claim to be the first self-service frozen yoghurt in New Zealand, if that was a notable thing, then we would need to find some evidence of it. Not notable under ‘basic’ or ‘organisation’. (Dushan Jugum (talk) 04:16, 10 March 2019 (UTC)).[reply]
  • Delete So, this article was originally about a fro-yo chain based in California, one of many in the mid- to late-2000s (see e.g. this LA Times listing of fro-yo shops: [16]). The California Kiwiberri actually got RS coverage, in part because of its legal (and personal) drama with
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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:29, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unbreakable (Dareysteel album)

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The album fails

WP:NALBUM. The album did not chart on any country's official chart and was not critically reviewed by any reliable publication. If User:Northamerica1000 doesn't want it redirected, it will need to be deleted.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 12:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment – The last AfD discussion here was closed as no consensus, not as redirect. The nominator herein redirected the article after the last AfD closed (diff), so I reverted that (diff). It's not a matter of what the nominator assumes I want at all, my reversion of the redirection was procedural, and proper. It's important to respect consensus after AfD discussions have concluded, rather than acting unilaterally against other user's opinions. Pinging Ad Orientem, the closer of the last AfD, in the event they may have something to add here. North America1000 16:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep:- The album meet
    reliable sources. Rayoveto (talk) 17:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply
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    WP:NALBUM – there aren't enough reliable sources to sustain an independent article for the album, because although there appear to be several sources from Nigerian newspapers and online websites, most of them don't appear to be "reliable" and "independent"... a comparison shows that the wording of the various newspaper articles is strikingly similar to each other, suggesting that they were fed a couple of press releases, and each newspaper has just altered a few words here and there and then published it. Richard3120 (talk) 15:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:29, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Holden

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Another oldie (from 2006), now while the 3 films she has been in are notable (including one well known film-Jailhouse Rock), her role in them are not. Unless if there is more notability to be found, this might be a delete. Wgolf (talk) 01:09, 10 March 2019 (UTC) *Comment-changing this to keep and for this article to get better refs. Wgolf (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep She meets
    WP:NACTOR #1 "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." Note that this does not say "starring" roles, it says "significant" roles, which she had. I will add more references. RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment-I might cancel this one-she might be notable. Wgolf (talk) 19:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment-Actually I'm just going to cancel this one and say Keep Wgolf (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment A participant has !voted delete above, so it is ineligible for withdrawal by the nominator (see
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  • Comment-ahhh didn't notice the delete right there! Wgolf (talk) 22:06, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I was leaning keep before I got here and learned the NACTOR #1. It just looked right although I can't see behind some of the pay walls.-
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The result was redirect to

(non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 03:23, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Michelle Hatch

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Another long dormant article (this one has been around for 14 and a half years!!!) of a actress with questionable notability. Her claim to fame is on a show where it looks like she wasn't even one of the main stars, as well as having notable parents. She could turn into a redirect. But I can't quite find notability for now. Wgolf (talk) 00:56, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to

(non-admin closure) Tymon.r Do you have any questions? 03:45, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Yinglish

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There are no legitimate sources that confirm that the subject of this page is a notable and unique phenomenon. It is common for nonnative speakers to insert words of their native language into their dialogue. We do not need a special article to tell people that Yiddish speakers do this as well. As is, the page only has one source, and is poorly written, acting more as a dictionary of English phrases adapted for Yiddish, than as an actuall encyclopedic page. Puzzledvegetable (talk) 00:46, 10 March 2019 (UTC) + 2 minor edits[reply]

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  • Merge with Yiddish words used in English and rename.
    There exists news articles and books which are both about or make passing references to the variety. Yiddish words used in English references Yinglish numerous times and includes a complex, ordered list of words, some with etymologies, numerous references and a mention of a former ISO code. Both articles should be merged and named "Yinglish" if it isn't possible to give it an academically appropriate name. UaMaol (talk) 02:26, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree with this suggestion. A quick scholar.google.com search suggests that the word Yinglish does have some scholarly currency, but this merge sounds sensible. Alarichall (talk) 00:39, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. As per above. Lapablo (talk) 22:31, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:28, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Manas Saikia

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Article previously was AFD with no vote it looks like. Anyway not sure how notable he is, it looks like a too soon as only one film and that film does not have a page! It was an award winner somewhere-but he didn't win or was nominated for it from what I can tell. Wgolf (talk) 00:43, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:28, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Not notable, routine notice in professional magazine is the only 3rd party ref. Part of an apparent promotional campaign that includes Financial Planning Association and National Endowment for Financial Education DGG ( talk ) 01:47, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Recommend

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Al-Salam Stadium

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There are only two stadiums known as "Al Salam Stadium". One located in

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  • Reverse Merge
    Al-Salam Stadium (Cairo) to this article + place hat note directing to Israeli stadium.Delete - but disagree with nominator. The Umm al-Fahm is actually known quite widely as "Al Salam Stadium" - this is an almost 100% Arab town, the language spoken is Arabic, and there is quite a bit of Arabic driven coverage (and translation thereof - which renders into Al-Salam (or Peace if they ttranslate)). However, that being said - the Cairo stadium outpaces the Israeli one by one or two orders of magnitude. The Israeli stadium houses Hapoel Umm al-Fahm F.C. and Maccabi Umm al-Fahm F.C. which are far from top-tier clubs to say the least - particularly when compared to Al Ahly SC. The Israeli stadium also has a widely used alternative name (derived from the same word in Hebrew). Thus - deleting the DAB and having a hat note directing to the Israeli one is a good solution here - the Egyptian usage is by far the most common. Icewhiz (talk) 12:47, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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    Modified !vote to reverse merge per Shhhnotsoloud which seems more correct procedure wise (standing pat on rationale). Icewhiz (talk) 13:55, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep on procedural grounds - this needs to go to
    WP:RM. GiantSnowman 10:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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@GiantSnowman: "Merge" is a legitimate outcome: see my comment immediately below. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Al-Salam, Al Salam, As-Salam, As-Salaam and other variations are all possible transliterations too - perhaps a number of redirects would be helpful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think that more redirects are needed for this one. Maybe having Al-Salam as the only redirect is enough. Ben5218 (talk) 19:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:24, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Molly Chesworth

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There isn't enough coverage in reliable sources to meet

WP:TOOSOON, as the subject appears to have only been active in the entertainment industry for about two years. signed, Rosguill talk 21:55, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete: Obviously fails the
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  • Delete: Agreed on
    WP:TOOSOON. I would suggest making this a stub page, but the sources just aren't notable enough. Contains only primary sources, blog reviews and IMDB. A search for more sources turns up little else. Betanote4 (talk) 15:43, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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