Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1047

Can anybody good with Alaska stuff fix this? See discussion here: [5] Geographyinitiative (talk) 12:58, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

talk

) 22:47, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Is a well-known hotel nationwide and even around the world. I don't know how to create a Wikipedia page, that is why I'm asking this question. MannyPC (talk) 22:58, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

notability. That could be books, news coverage, any reliable source with a reputation of editorial control and fact checking. 331dot (talk

) 23:03, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

How to I edit false information on a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.15.217 (talk) 23:16, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. Please understand that Wikipedia simply summarizes what independent

consensus as to how to proceed. 331dot (talk

) 23:25, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

I.E. Woodfield Mall, I have made some recent changes to reduce redundancies and un-sourced material, but for instance the section about what stores opened in what year seems to be excessive, and a more concise section would in my opinion be better. Tjdilly (talk) 23:43, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Shorter can be better, especially as so many of those store mentions do not have references. David notMD (talk) 23:48, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

There is a reference I would like to add to an article, but the website it is on requires a user account to view. I'm sure this happens often enough, what's the procedure for situations like this? --Puzzledvegetable^{Is it teatime already?} 17:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

- talk

17:24, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Puzzledvegetable: If you are using one of the {{Citation}} templates, just add |url-access=subscription. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi there! I wanted to ask that is adding information about temporarily suspended flights allowed in Wikipedia? Due to the recent spreading of coronavirus, many airlines have temporarily suspended flights to China. As per User: Andrewgprout, "Wikipedia is not a directory to add info about temporary suspension of flights". So just wanted to confirm this from other users about the addition of temporarily suspended flights to airport articles. Regards-- User:FlyJet777 (talk) 20:51, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

WP:NOTNEWS, so we don't report breaking news or routine coverage. But, if flights being cancelled has encyclopedic value, then it could be added. It would depend on the quality of sources, and the nature of the coverage. From what I can see, you were changing Infoboxes based on the data. I would personally be against that, but I don't think we have a policy that says so. Articles should have content that is generally stable over the long-run, and updating based on real-time events is not exactly useful, and provides a lot of maintenance overhead. Hope that helps. Still, you may wish to have a more in-depth discussion on the talk page of an article, or somewhere else that will get suffucient traffic, like Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓

20:59, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

CaptainEek Hi Captain! Thanks for the explanation! So should I remove all the information about the temporarily suspended flights? What do you suggest? Regards-- User:FlyJet777 (talk) 21:04, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

If you do not wish to discuss it on the relevant article Talk pages as suggested above by User:CaptainEek, you should undo your edits so as not to make work for other editors.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:59, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

There are several articles getting many edits per day as each little morsel of the coronavirus story is published. Most of it seems to be contrary to

WP:NOTNEWS. —[AlanM1(talk

)]— 02:07, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

For an album article I assumed that a corresponding WikiData item will be started by bots, but that is not the case: There's a Category:Articles without Wikidata item, populated by various templates needing Wikidata used mostly on BLPs, e.g., birth place. So now I assume that adding articles manually to this hidden maintenance category makes no sense, and I should simply create the item—PoC for the record label item—is that correct? –84.46.53.231 (talk) 04:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

it contains notability tag of 2011. no secondary or other sources. can we nominate articles for deletion ?

Make it so,

subst:PROD rationale NN + orphan + unsourced since 2011, or similar. –84.46.53.231 (talk

) 04:41, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

biography of a living person, so the very existence of this article in that state is a policy violation. I did a quick check and see no evidence that this rapper is notable. Please read Wikipedia:Deletion policy and take whatever step you believe is correct. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

04:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Oops, yes,

SPEEDY deletion, it can't get simpler. –84.46.53.231 (talk

) 04:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

User:MassiveEartha gave me a fine brief introduction to editing quite long ago now, Sunday 1pm 9 April 2017 at Shakespeare's Head. I never found out how to send her thanks. Any help with than? Not sure where I'll find a response to this query. Thanks, User:ClintonL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clinton45 (talk • contribs) 08:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Clinton45. That is very nice. You can leave a message for her at User talk:MassiveEartha. She is an active editor. I have pinged you so you should be notified of my response. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:12, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I just created my page yesterday and you want to speedy delete it.

Please help me go through the page and edit it so it is compliant with your policies and guidelines, because I did spend a lot of time on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr David Gallagher (talk • contribs) 11:07, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi David. Wikipedia strongly discourages writing an article about yourself. There is too much conflict of interest.Charles (talk) 11:14, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

WP:USERPAGE

.

Second, please note that autobiographical articles are strongly discouraged on Wikipedia(though not forbidden). This is partially because people naturally write favorably about themselves, and not with a

reliable sources

. This is usually difficult for people to do about themselves- while technically possible, I haven't seen it done in my many years here.

In your case, you wrote a summary of your professional qualifications and works you have done- which is more appropriate for a social media type page about you, where you can say what you want about yourself. Wikipedia is different- as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is interested in what independent reliable sources state about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of

WP:NACADEMIC

).

If you truly feel that you meet the notability guidelines(you might from what I see), you should really not write about yourself directly- but you may create and submit a draft for an independent review using

new user tutorial first. 331dot (talk

) 11:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:NLT. Assuming you wish to continue editing here, you may want to strike the problem language (surround it with <s>...</s>). Thanks. —[AlanM1(talk

)]— 13:07, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

potential energy is the energy a body has due to its position — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhiz blessed (talk • contribs) 09:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Mhiz blessed: what is your question about editing Wikipedia? (that is the only purpose of this page). If you want to read more about potential energy, we have an article Potential energy. --ColinFine (talk) 10:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I would also add that if the article ColinFine linked above does not fully answer your question, you are welcome to visit the science reference desk. CThomas³ (talk) 17:09, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

The table at Tommy Tour#Preview concert in the U.K. and North American leg (1 May – 19 June 1969) doesn't sort correctly. How can I fix it? Chrisnait (talk) 15:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Greetings Chrisnait, and welcome to the Teahouse. One of the rowspans had more rows in it than was left in the table, causing the sorting error. I fixed that and now it appears that the table sorts correctly. I hope that helps! CThomas³ (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Cthomas3. Chrisnait (talk) 17:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Question: Would a fandom related to a certain topic be a reliable source for use on Wikipedia? — Preceding

Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source. If those wikis contain cited information that has a place here, you should use that citation instead of the wiki itself as a source. 331dot (talk

) 16:43, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Agreed with everything 331dot said above. Unfortunately a lot Fandom wikis aren’t super-stringent about sourcing, but you could certainly ask on the wiki's discussion boards about where they obtained the information. Many of those wikis have dedicated editors with a great deal of source material, and even if it isn’t directly cited, they could probably point you to where you could look it up yourself. CThomas³ (talk) 17:00, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Context matters, nobody is going to remove about four references of a historic "official wiki" on

RS/P as generally unreliable recently. –84.46.53.117 (talk

) 18:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Whats the time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohsen.mehraban730 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Mohsen.mehraban730 Hello. This page is a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia. Do you have a question about using Wikipedia? 331dot (talk) 19:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello! I have a question: "Is uploading an image from another person's tweet in Twitter to Wikimedia Commons allowed?" For example, am I allowed to upload the image from here: https://twitter.com/seaofshadowsSOS/status/1187782833642856450?s=19? Thanks! LV1000 (talk) 15:09, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

donating copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk

) 16:58, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

If somebody tweets a photo along with proof that the photo was originally published before 1924, then that is OK. But that is pretty rare. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:56, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

In the spirit of saying more than no, an example where the source was published under a free licence. A reverse image search with Google or TinEye could find an allegedly free source. Use {{LicenseReview}} for unclear uploads on Commons. –84.46.53.117 (talk) 19:38, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for your help thus far. I've been a bit sidetracked with other projects, but would like to get stuck into the wiki page and finish it off. However, after loggin in, I have difficulty finding the page that I created. Could you direct me in how to access this page? The page name is 'modbiotics'.

Kind regards, Lizmo1977 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizmo1977 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Lizmo1977. I looked at your list of contributions and noticed Draft:Modbiotics. I assume that is what you are talking about. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:51, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

My opinion is that this draft should be abandoned and instead a section on non-nutrient prebiotics be added to the Prebiotic article. David notMD (talk) 21:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

hey I was wondering why my article was declined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Herobarhoam (talk • contribs) 08:43, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

@

professionally-published independent mainstream academic or journalistic sources

that are specifically and primarily about Alsayed but not connected with, dependent upon, nor affiliated with him.

In other words, you need to cite newspaper and magazine articles or books about him. However, those don't exist, so there's not really any way to write an article about him write now.

nor commentary

.

Click this link to see instructions on how to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted. Ian.thomson (talk) 08:51, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Your Sandbox draft was Rejected, not Declined. Difference is the reviewer opinion is that what you wrote has no potential to be an article. David notMD (talk) 21:48, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi. I have had Draft:Steve Mahabir rejected twice for submission. I would like to make some more revisions and try to resubmit it again. In the meantime, however, one section of the article has been deleted. Could you help me figure out who did it and why? Also I would love to retrieve the deleted section so I could work on it. Thanks. Hollander1961 (talk) 21:38, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Steve Mahabir. Much of the content removed and cannot be recovered because it was identified as a copyright violation. David notMD (talk) 21:59, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

(ec) Before

Draft:Pendu Sound Recordings, only with a different name, of course.
Personal records for three drafts, between 45 minutes and 82 days for the reviews. –84.46.53.117 (talk

) 22:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Would you consider this to be a notable topic: A wine region (Okanagan Valley, British Columbia, Canada) has just been granted a new sub-geographical indicator (sub-GI). This is a region that has special grape growing conditions and wines produced from grapes grown in this region can now legally put this region on their label. The larger region has only 5 Sub-GI's at this point. I would like to add a page dedicated to one of them, Skaha Bench, with details about the region, wineries within in it, and growing conditions. This is the verifiable government press release. https://archive.news.gov.bc.ca/releases/news_releases_2017-2021/2019AGRI0038-000945.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbuksevics (talk • contribs) 22:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

@

That's the general standard. Ian.thomson (talk

) 22:20, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I would like to creat articles on a few bodies of water near where I live, since I like to do lots of editing for things in the area. The bodies of water in question are Turtlehead Lake, Tinley Creek, Natalie Creek, and Midlothian Creek. (All except Natalie Creek can be found on Google Maps.) I'm not sure if I should make articles about these bodies of water, please let me know if I should. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaluteVII (talk • contribs) 22:00, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

the notability criteria for geographic features

, named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist, but often is the key word here.

Can you write the article based only off your sources (

the amnesia test)? If so, then, combined with the notability guidelines, it's probably notable. However, looking at a map, they all appear to be next to each other. I'd write a single article for all of them, similar to Sale Water Park as an example. ~~ Alex Noble - talk

22:28, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi and greetings! This is my first question in Teahouse. I'm a little confused about the rollback feature for reverting vandalism on Wikipedia. Twinkle also offers rollback feature and the other kind of rollback is accessible to only users belonging to rollbackers group. Are both rollbacks same? Or what additional privileges does exclusive access to rollback feature offer. If both have same functions then why is there such a rollbackers group instead of using Twinkle! Can anybody make me understand? — The Ultimate ^{Let's Talk} 08:16, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

The Ultimate Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Both groups you describe are functionally the same; the main difference being that any logged in user can make use of Twinkle without asking permission. Twinkle was a tool developed to make some tasks easier to perform(not just rollbacks). However, if Twinkle is misused, one can lose access to it. Rollback rights just grant the ability to perform rollbacks, and not other functions(unlike Twinkle). 331dot (talk) 09:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@The Ultimate: I would like to clarify something 331dot said. Twinkle is a tool that you get one you are autoconfirmed. If you misuse it, your account will be blocked from editing. Interstellarity (talk) 15:24, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Unless I am mistaken, Interstellarity, Twinkle is not automatically enabled when a user is autoconfirmed. It needs to be requested at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:28, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: I think you meant that it needs to enabled which is what I meant say in the first reply. Interstellarity (talk) 15:29, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

WP:HUGGLE Bobherry Talk Edits

00:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

This is my first time including a quote from a foreign language with an automated translation for an existing Template:Cite_news citation.
It looks like the automated translation needs cleanup from "Spraybox's father" to maybe some thing like "Aerosol bottle's father", but I have no knowledge of Norwegian.

To get experienced help, would it make sense to put in a

{{subst:Needtrans| Language=Norwegian| Comments=What is the best English version of 'Sprayboksens far er norsk'? Perhaps 'Aerosol bottle's father is Norwegian' }} ,

as seems to be suggested by Wikipedia:Pages_needing_translation_into_English#Translation_template_usage's Not English section?
It isn't clear from the section as it also seems to imply that this would work:

{{not English| Language=Norwegian| Comments=What is the best English version of 'Sprayboksens far er norsk'? Perhaps 'Aerosol bottle's father is Norwegian' }} ,

On the formatting of the citation in References, I wasn't able to get the translation to work with the quote= parameter of the cite news template, so I instead appended the

Kvilesjø, Svend Ole (17 February 2003). "Sprayboksens far er norsk". Aftenposten (in Norwegian). Archived from the original on 30 June 2008. Retrieved 6 February 2009.

From:

Thanks! Comments? --Lent (talk) 11:17, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Lent. I don't know anything about the formatting, but the English idiom is "the father of..." Presumably, "The father of the aerosol spray". --ColinFine (talk) 13:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Following the suggestion by

Aerosol_spray#cite_note-4 Thanks Lent (talk

) 03:20, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I'll love to get more information on referencing an article. I had an article about a movie declined and the reason given was that "it appeared like a promotional ad" Would love to know how to make it better. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metgala (talk • contribs) 23:53, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Metgala, Help:Referencing_for_beginners (although the problem doesn't sound like a referencing problem) S Philbrick(Talk) 23:59, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Reliable sources--Quisqualis (talk

) 03:20, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi I am a new user reaching out for feedback. Below is the URL link to an article that I used to contribute to a wikipage: International student. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e9dd/67e6131f3678e9bebf33a6e0a11d4bb5cd42.pdf

Thank you for your support. JindySingh23Jindysingh23 (talk) 21:48, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Think what you meant is this a good reference? David notMD (talk) 03:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

It seems to be a secondary source, and it raises some interesting points which would pertain to some aspects of International student. I see no reason not to use it.--Quisqualis (talk) 03:56, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

?I am the new owner of a company that has a Wikipedia page. I would like to know how to update the information on my company's Wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:3CA:203:4170:2953:63F6:1FF0:DF33 (talk) 03:59, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

You should post on the article's talk page, along with the tag {{Edit request}}, and mention how you are connected to the company. An uninvolved editor will then respond to your request. RudolfRed (talk) 04:07, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Alright, so sometime around the 14th of January (2020), the line "His record in government under Qaboos has been described by The Economist as poor.<rеf name="veconomist11" />" in the Haitham bin Tariq article began to be removed, by various people, mostly Omani IPs and Sultan159. A short description of his tenure under Qaboos is indeed in the Economist article if you're wondering. This culminated in an edit war on the 24th of January (UTC), which, to be honest, I'm not proud of participating in. On that same day, after I stopped reverting his removals, he responded on my talk page, which, I did want him to do, to explain the reasoning behind the removal (hence the "unexplained removal" message in my earlier reverts). I wrote a reply about 14 hours later, but I have not yet gotten a response. However, it is obvious that does go on Wikipedia, and can respond, as evidenced by his post-24th edits on the article, as well as, most recently, on my user page. As for the reply, I might've misused/misunderstood the WP:s I was citing. Anyway, I would like if he replied again, and to reach some kind of consensus on the line, as edit wars are immature and a waste of time. --toweli (talk) 15:50, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Replied toweli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sultan159 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

What is your question, in briefest terms? What is happening, and to what article?--Quisqualis (talk) 04:17, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi everybody,

I hope you're all doing well. I'm new here and I am trying to create my first article. I was asked to find more third party references and remove the PR ones. I've found more independent sources; however, I can't really tell which ones are generally referred to as 'PR'. I don't think any of the sources are press releases, self published or from the subject's own website. There are some that serve as proofs of the awards or things done by the subject of the article over and above the news articles, but I hear it is not okay to use those.

Can somebody verify if awards, accomplishments or facts shouldn't be verified through records and listings? Also, can somebody help me identify the links that need to be removed?

Much obliged,

If the source is connected to, affiliated with, or dependent upon the subject, it's either PR or may as well be.

If the source ultimately comes from the subject, even if released through other sites, it's PR.

If the source is on a website that accepts payment to put up stuff, it's PR.

If the source goes on about how great the subject is (rather than just reporting and letting you decide), it's PR.

I recommend checking these instructions on how to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted. Start only with professional sources that are not connected to, affiliated with, nor dependent upon the subject but still specifically and primarily about the subject. Then summarize, paraphrase, and cite those. Then post that and only that to demonstrate notability that's not hidden or cluttered by anything. Only after the article is approved should you expand it with anything else. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the information. I read the guide you've posted and it certainly clear things up. So, should I just remove what you defined as 'PR' and resubmit the article for review and add them later again for expansion? Also, how many independent and reliable sources there should be at the minimum for an article to be accepted?

talk

) 23:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

@

FelixtheNomad: Yes, I would use only the independent sources to start with. You need at least three that are specifically and primarily about the subject but more isn't necessarily a bad idea so long as they aren't just repeating each other. Ian.thomson (talk

) 00:58, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@Ian.thomson: So, I've removed a bunch of references that were PR based on your guidelines. Can you please take a look at it and tell me if it is okay now? Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hamlin_Grange

Thank you,

Hello

FelixtheNomad. Your article is what we at Wikipedia call a "resume". It is about a person who is good at their job, has risen in the ranks and has won awards. These are normal human activities. Very few diversity consultants are the subject of Wikipedia articles; the same goes for VPs of HR and CIOs. He just isn't famous, and might have to do something truly outrageous on a national or global scale to be written about in depth in reliable published sources, just like the VP and the CIO. Not everyone's story enhances the value of Wikipedia. WP's value to readers, in my opinion, is the way all the articles tend to "web" together in an interconnected way as a body of knowledge. This article would not do that. Mr Grange is not part of the web of knowledge an average person would want to access. If he were to found an international (or even national) organization of diversity consultants, and if he were frequently quoted in mainstream new media, he would likely qualify for an article. OTOH, if, without doing anything novel, he, for some reason, did "get an article" on WP, it would be nominated for deletion fairly soon.--Quisqualis (talk

) 03:48, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 04:18, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello

FelixtheNomad. If "He is quoted in the mainstream media, but those articles were either tagged as PR or trivial mentions.", then you have the Sisyphean delemma of trying for an article on Grange when he is not notable. Sorry.--Quisqualis (talk

) 04:26, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I would refrain from being rude, but there are over 20 citations in that article with more in my backlog as I removed them on the suggestion of another editor. I would rather wait for another editor to actually review the article. Thanks for your feedback once again.

talk

) 04:57, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability--Quisqualis (talk) 05:42, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

this article does not have any source

Hello, Leela52452. You will have to ask that question on the Dutch Wikipedia. The Teahouse can only provide advice about editing the English Wikipedia. Each language version of Wikipedia is run separately. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Leela52452, Howdy hello, and welcome to the Teahouse! It does seem that they were about the same place, with slightly different spelling. I have redirected the longer article into the article with the infobox, as the infobox version at least had location data. The non-infobox version was in essence entirely unsourced, and thus its prose was not very useful. Its page history could be used to expand the main article, but I somewhat doubt its utility. Regrettably another African place article that exists, but is very hard to write about because the lack of good sources. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:24, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Good morning Ladies and Gentlemen,

the entry

Could somebody please check it?

The final target is to get this player included for listing it in Comparison of audio player software

Thank you very much for your help in advance.

Kind regards from Kassel in the middle of Germany

Dominic

Edited links acc. Nick Moyes comment below (Thanks to David notMD :)) Dominic2105 (talk) 12:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dominic2105 (talk • contribs) 09:29, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

@Dominic2105V: please check you links. The page doesn't exist under that url. Just supply a working (blue) wikilink and we can look at it. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:13, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: here is a working link to the draft:

Draft:Sayonara Player. David notMD (talk

) 11:15, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi I am part of a Saas company looking for wikipedia writers to write about our products. Anyone with writing experience in the IT field would be prefered. Looking forward to connecting on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous4993 (talk • contribs) 07:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi

volunteers and thus tend to create content about subjects that interest them as opposed to literally being tasked by someone to create an article. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 08:08, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

A note on your website describes the restrictions if you or any other employee of the company decide to attempt to create the article(s) yourselves. David notMD (talk) 11:12, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

I meant on your User page. David notMD (talk) 13:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

@David notMD: You meant on their User talk page → User talk:Anonymous4993#Managing a conflict of interest.
Pinging Anonymous4993 as well.
--CiaPan (talk)

Hello! I am in a dilemma about redirecting an article. It's showing me the following information's:

Symbol redirect arrow with gradient.svg This page is a redirect: From a page move: This is a redirect from a page that has been moved (renamed). This page was kept as a redirect to avoid breaking links, both internal and external, that may have been made to the old page name. When appropriate, protection levels are automatically sensed, described and categorized.

Name of the article given by me:

Can someone suggest me how to solve this issue. SSR1989 (talk) 16:38, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

There isn't an issue. That is created automatically when a page is moved. What question are you trying to ask? Do you want to use your sandbox for something else? If yes, just edit it and delete the redirect. - X201 (talk)

Hello. The article Mahavir Karna has 1 pending revision (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mahavir_Karna&oldid=937860521&diff=cur&diffonly=0), but for some reason, the pending changes review bar does not show up for me. Please help quickly, I do not know what to do. ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 16:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

What do you for me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaif wani (talk • contribs) 16:58, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

@Kaif wani: Sorry, your input is not helpful. I need help from someone who is actually willing to help me. ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 17:02, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

@WikiWarrior9919: the page log says that page protection expired earlier today at 13:30 UTC, which explains why we see no pending changes to be reviewed. Both the change you linked above and a newer one show in the history. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 17:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

I tried to create the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lelo_for_Georgia -- yes, it is a stump but previously similar beginnings went through, so that other people can enrich it. The party has been created by one of the most prominent businesspeople in the country. It has been covered in various outlets, including Al-Jazeera, and I added more references.

What can I do to revive the submission? It will not be perfect for sure, but wasn't the idea that one collaborates at Wikipedia, rather than a single person having to develop a fully fledged article?

And yes, I do not yet know how to tag lots of things, but I kind of feel Wikipedia should make it possible for people like me to contribute, too.

Thanks Hundnase (talk) 18:16, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Hundnase, and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, Wikipedia does make it possible for people like you to contribute. But creating a new article is very difficult - not primarily for technical reasons, but because a) it takes a lot of work locating resources and summarising them; and b) because it is a way of working that many people are not used to. (That's why I always advise new users to spend a few weeks or months improving existing articles before they try it).

Many of English Wikipedia's six million articles were created a long time ago, when we were less careful about their quality than we are today. In an ideal world, all these inferior articles would have been improved or deleted by now. But Wikipedia is created by volunteers, who work on what they choose; so we end up with many many inferior articles. But we no longer accept articles that do not meet our current standards. Your draft can remain a draft, and you can edit it and invite other people to do so; but until it has adequate independent sources it will not get accepted as an article. --ColinFine (talk) 20:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

I have submitted an article about a company which has been declined because the subject was not considered notable. That submission had three references, and I have now found a fourth, to newspapers that published feature articles reporting exclusively on the company and its involvement in some newsworthy activity, and which included interviews with company executives, photos and details about the company. These were not press releases. They were not paid for by the company. Independent newspaper editors sent reporters to get a story. I have been told that these newspaper articles are not considered independent by Wiki editors. Is this true?DriverSafety (talk) 18:24, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi

this short policy, which should give you an idea of what an independent source is! If this doesn't help, please feel free to tell me here and we can help you further! Thanks again! Puddleglum ^2.0

19:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

For the record: discussion continued on askers TP. Puddleglum ^2.0 21:04, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm trying to make a good article by providing facts and more things. I cite things and currently it is a Work In Progress in my sandbox. I'm asking this to see if anyone has good tips on how to make it aesthetically pleasing, please message me back! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsunami307 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

You don't have anything in your sandbox. You can find advice at

WP:Your first article. When you have experience on editing Wikipedia, you can also read about good articles. --David Biddulph (talk

) 19:59, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

As DB noted, "Good article" has a specific meaning within the rating system. My assumption is that you want to create a draft that will be accepted. Be aware that your User page is not a place to work on a draft. Use either your Sandbox or start a draft. David notMD (talk) 22:04, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

There is a person listed on a page whose name links to another similarly-named person who is not the same individual. What is the best way to undo the link or have it removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidlow47 (talk • contribs) 07:20, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

The page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_U.S._Figure_Skating_Championships ...and the person linked is Colleen McGuire, which links to Colleen L. McGuire, who is not the same person.

The 1983 US Figure SKating Championships page should not redirect to Colleen L. McGuire, US Army, who served beginning in 1979. The Colleen McGuire who competed in the 1983 US Figure Skating Championships in the Junior Dance division did so while she was still in high school in Branford, CT, and so could not have been serving in the US Military four years earlier, in 1979. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidlow47 (talk • contribs) 07:24, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi

draft for an article about the figure skater as Draft:Colleen McGuire and then submit it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for review; if the draft is accepted, then the AfC reviewer who does so will see that a redirect page already exists for that name and therefore the reviewer will sort things out with respect to disambiguation.

Finally, if no such article exists and you've got no intention of trying to create one, then the easiest thing to do would be to remove the link syntax so that her name is displayed as simple text and not a link. The way to do that would be to edit the article and look for [[Colleen McGuire]] and just remove the brackets around her name. Click "Show preview" to check that you've done it correctly, and then click "Publish changes" when you're ready to make the edit. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 07:48, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

I've removed the incorrect link and added an internal comment about it at Special:Diff/938346896. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 17:08, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

@

Bollywood film (I wonder how they can afford him). Earlier today, I came across James Mason

as a writer for a kids' TV series aired in 2011 (somehow, I doubt it).

I agree with what has been said above. Two other things you can do. (1) Turn the bad link into a redlink by adding a parenthetical qualifier - if you're sure what the qualifier should be. (2) Perhaps better still: tag the bad link as {{

WikiGnomes will sooner or later solve it one way or another. In the meantime, readers can see there is a problem of some sort, and shouldn't be misled. Narky Blert (talk

) 00:15, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

I’m newly signed on here. I’m having difficulties finding info re adding a “Notable People” heading to an existing page. I would greatly appreciate assistance specific to that and also, direction to info for learning more about creating/editing pages. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1HJHJ (talk • contribs) 00:31, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi

Wikipedia:Your first article, Wikipedia:Everything you need to know and Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia helpful. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 01:19, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

This is a super credible, news segment from CTV news that I'd like to use for a Wikipedia article I'm writing: https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1775334 I'm using that reference for this statement. DJ Blitz is a Manitoban radio host and DJ. He is currently a host on Virgin Radio Winnipeg. Do you use this template with curly brackets?: cite web |url= |title= |last= |first= |date= |website= |publisher= |access-date= |quote=

Also, can someone take a look at this real quick before I submit it for review? It's a short one: User:Krisrobertson/DJ Blitz Just want to make sure it's solid. It's a non biased article yet still demonstrates importance of notable person. Also, a link to their social media page http://www.facebook.com/djblitzwpg shows that they are currently verified on Facebook. This is a major indicator of notability. Is verification on social media considered as a factor for notability? I'm assuming so. Very few people are able to obtain the blue check

Krisrobertson (talk) 11:39, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:TOOSOON to write an article about this person since most of the sources you're citing are really just "trivial" types of coverage and not really anything which would be considered significant coverage. Please note that not having a Wikipedia article doesn't mean Blitz isn't a cool guy or a great DJ, and perhaps his career will really take off sometime in the future and he will start receiving more significant coverage as either a radio host or as a DJ. Even if that never happens, however, it still would mean he isn't a cool guy or a great DJ. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 02:13, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13943/akasa-turing-passively-cooled-chassis-for-intel-bean-canyon-nuc https://www.anandtech.com/show/14259/he-asrock-a320tm-itx-motherboard-thin-itx-for-amd-apus

The Wikipedia article in question is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Akasa_Group#cite_note-3. Thanks.

Best Regards, Nick Lenczewski — Preceding unsigned comment added by NickL1771 (talk • contribs) 02:01, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

other stuff exists

.

The sources you cite seem to be just basic product descriptions, and are not significant coverage of the subject which in this case is a company. The company itself must have significant coverage in independent

reliable sources, not just its products. For example, Microsoft merits an article because many sources write about it as a company, not just its products like Microsoft Windows

.

I would ask if you have an association with Akasa Group? If you do, you are required to read and formally comply with the

paid editing policies(the latter is a Terms of Use requirement if you are paid or editing as part of your job duties). 331dot (talk

) 02:11, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi

better ways to get your name out there. "Wikipedia notablilty" is not really the same as credibility and your company shouldn't really need to have a Wikipedia article written about it for it to be considered credible by others. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 02:25, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

give me advantage of some brief discourse — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaif wani (talk • contribs) 17:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

@

the loss of editing privileges. ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ

17:50, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Random observation, better keep the nukes such as

SPI for serious offenders with more than ten edits, and suggest a second account or IP for a SPI, the CUs are elite but not psychic. –84.46.52.25 (talk

) 10:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

amazon.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.106.246 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Well,

Amazon.com is a commercial website selling books and other things. So none of those can be used to show notability. If information is found in Encyclopedia.com, it can be tracked back to the original publisher – and that could very well be a source that indicates notability, but encyclopedia.com itself is not a source (just like Google, which has no content, only indices of content exising elsewhere). The others are either crowdsourced or commercial. --bonadea contributions talk

19:50, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

So if there is an obituary in legacy.com published in a local newspaper, which I cite, and another obituary that I found, can those 2 be used to create a notable article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.106.246 (talk) 19:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

I think that an obituary would depend on several factors- obituaries are sometimes written by the deceased person prior to their death, or (more often) a family member. I don't think that would establish notability. 331dot (talk) 20:00, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

An obituary is sometimes written by a journalist at the newspaper, pretty equal to other articles from that paper. Recent discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Obituary. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:42, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

New York Times has obituaries written by newspaper staff and others paid-submitted. I have seen Wikipedia editors cite a NYTimes obit and not distinguish type. I would consider only the former as reliable sources. David notMD (talk) 22:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Obits might be suitable for citing basic facts, like dates and places of birth/death, but as to the original question, I don't think they are not typically usable for notability. It seems that an obit that is more in-depth, written by a neutral party, is generally about someone about whom there is significant coverage anyway, so there should be better sources out there for such a person. Who is the subject? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Recently I wrote that enwiki has at least one rule + at least one template for everything. Of course it also has at least one essay + at least one shortcut for everything, e.g.,

WP:NOTOBITUARY. –84.46.52.25 (talk

) 10:19, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

How does <style> work? Does it have to be like this or can <style> stand on its own? Helloimahumanbeing (talk) 20:52, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Helloimahumanbeing. 'style' is an HTML attribute that takes as values one or more CSS declarations. You can use it in many HTML tags. For general use, <span></span> tags don't do much of anything by themselves; so, to produce green 15 point serif text, one might use <span style="color: green; font-size: 15pt; font-family: serif;"></span>, producing this. w3schools might be of interest. Eman235/talk 06:03, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

<style></style> tags also exist: see w3schools' reference. They don't, however, appear to work on Wikipedia, which allows only a subset of HTML. Eman235/talk 06:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@

templates used to change foreground and background colors, e.g., {{Font color|white|green|Foo}}, which renders: Foo. AFAICT, the <style> tag is not supported (only the style attribute of other tags (like <div style="foo:bar; bak:baz;">). (I apparently didn't save this earlier) —[AlanM1(talk

)]— 06:22, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

+1 at style element (tag) not allowed, same idea as link, meta, and script elements in the head. The rendered wiki markup ends up in a div as part of the body (below the head). To get a better idea add ?action=raw to any enwiki URL without a ? —84.46.52.25 (talk) 10:28, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello. I am having trouble with username customization, as you can see by my mess of a signature. My current code is [[User: Shrekxy6|ShrekxyShrekxy64. Any ideas? [[User: Shrekxy6|ShrekxyShrekxy64 " 00:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrekxy64 (talk • contribs)

Hi Shrekxy64. I'm not sure what you want the code to do but every opening [[ needs a closing ]]. Is this OK: Shrekxy64. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:47, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes. Thank you. Shrekxy64. 19:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I've tried to archive some pages and it's not working. I also tried to access some webpages I previously archived and were previously working. They don't seem to be working anymore. When I click on the URL, it says the page isn't archived, even though I was previously able to access it. Can someone help? See the Frontline references on List of chief ministers of Jharkhand for examples for pages I've tried to access. TryKid (talk) 10:28, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

TryKid The same thing happened to me whet I went to the article you suggested. If the issue is on the Internet Archive's end, we can't really do too much about it, you would need to contact them. 331dot (talk) 12:19, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I think it is working now, the problem on Jharkhand page was from my side, and the other page seems to be working now. TryKid (talk) 13:11, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I have just found this image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikbalang#/media/File:Tikbalang_The_Philippine_Demon_Horse_Commons.jpg being used on Tikbalang. Wikipedia:No original research#Original images says: Original images created by a Wikipedian are not considered original research, so long as they do not illustrate or introduce unpublished ideas or arguments. It is not verifiable or a notable image. It illustrates or introduces the artist's own ideas of what a Tikbalang should look like. I believe it should be removed as Original Research. --Danielklein (talk) 04:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Do the math. user inactive since 2011, image used on 4 enwiki articles and on 8 other wikipedias, almost 13 years since 2007. –84.46.53.231 (talk

) 07:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't see how that's relevant. But as far as I can see, the very poor image does illustrate what is described in the lede. It would be good to have a better one, but I don't think it misrepresents or reinterprets the concept as described.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Shantavira I don't know what a Tikbalang is supposed to look like apart from having legs so long that when it squats its knees are above its head. The image is certainly not like that. How can I be certain that anything else in the image is representative? --Danielklein (talk) 12:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

You can't, but you can check the related talk pages (articles + image) for older discussions in the last 12 years, or start a new discussion with the "experts" (editors) on these talk pages. IIRC there's an offline book source, maybe the artist used more than their own imagination for this work. –84.46.53.117 (talk) 19:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

This image from DeviantArt https://www.deviantart.com/frigga/art/Tikbalang-55001764 fits the description better. Of course it is a copyrighted image so we can't use it here, and also it's that artist's interpretation. What would be good would be to find an old image that has no copyright. --Danielklein (talk) 04:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

From another PoV, if the art is used in 4 articles + 7 other wikipedias on the say-so of only one editor, it could be spam. Otherwise it could be what it often is, "only me", and better than no illustration.
It is not more usual to create own illustrations, and on commons folks tend to delete fantasy works, unless they are COM:INUSE. –84.46.53.137 (talk) 15:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello Wikipedia Team, We are from the Animation training institute, located in Mumbai, India. The way "Arena Animation" listed in Wikipedia, We want to add our Company "Zee Institute of Creative Art" in Wikipedia. How we can do that. please support. Thank you Ghanshyam Harsh — Preceding

Firstly you need to make the mandatory declaration of

paid editing as you are editing about your company. After that, read how to make edits where you have a conflict of interest. Finally you refer to "we". You need to be aware that Wikipedia accounts may not be shared; each individual editor needs his/her own account. --David Biddulph (talk

) 15:44, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Harsh.eroz. Like many people, you misunderstand what Wikipedia is. It is not a listing site. It does not contain listings. Not one. It is an encyclopaedia, which contains neutral articles about notable subjects. Many articles are about companies: they do not belong to the companies, they do not necessarily say what the company wants to say, and Wikipedia does not care - not even a little bit - whether or not the company in question wants there to be an article or not.

There are two criteria, only, for Wikipedia having an article about a subject: 1) is the subject

notable (in Wikipedia's special sense of the word)? 2) has a volunteer chosen to create an article about it, and had the resources and ability to do so? --ColinFine (talk

) 16:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Please read this and add what I am asking to be added. Thanks!—Spasiba5 (talk) 02:07, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

dispute resolution procedures if you find the advice you are being given unsatisfactory. 331dot (talk

) 02:14, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

It's not a dispute. I am asking someone to add the matter or at least explain why it is not acceptable.—Spasiba5 (talk) 04:42, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

It is, indeed, a dispute. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 17:50, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Spasiba5 Your initial post here asked other users to do what others involved in your dispute will not do. You didn't just ask for an explanation of the dispute- which you have already been given. As I stated, if you find the discussion result unsatisfactory, you should use dispute resolution. 331dot (talk) 17:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deweyism A few observations: 1) The article title is the only place I have found the term "Deweyism." It is not used in J. Dewey's works, nor third-party sources such as the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. At a minimum, I think the title needs to be changed, but I do not have permission for this. 2) The content is only a summary of J. Dewey's essay "My Pedagogic Creed." I believe I read somewhere Wikipedia articles need to be more than just a summary of a work, but the current notification only flags references, not the content in the article. I'm not sure how to go about fixing #1, and I would like policy clarification on #2. Thanks! Tacogamer20 (talk) 16:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)Tacogamer20

@Tacogamer20:, let's take these one at a time. As far as changing the title, any account that is four days old and has 10 edits should be able to change the title of an article. Looking at your contribution history, it looks like you passed that yesterday. Maybe just the first time you tried, you hadn't gotten to 10 edits yet? Try it again and see what happens. If you still have problems, post here again, or on on my talk page if you prefer. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:02, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I agree,

WP:secondary sources, and should be rewritten to summarise what they say, not what Dewey says. Probably it should be an article about My Pedagogic Creed. --ColinFine (talk

) 18:26, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Please edit the information posted as false when searching Wikipedia about Julian Assange. It states that he sought asylum in Ecuador based on 4 alleged rape accusations. There were 2 not 4 and those charges have been dropped. THIS is particularly important because those charges were false to begin with. I can cite these facts with sources more accurate than whoever wrote the original report. Assange is involved in the most important indictment in history of the fight for free speech and having this misinformation in print when someone who hasn't fully and carefully researched him will only extend the aid in the US government 2008 propaganda smear campaign against him. SHAME on this link for reporting without researching facts which are false.107.77.224.215 (talk) 09:30, 2 February 2020 (UTC)^[1]</ref>

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. According to the Julian Assange article, there were four charges against him, "two counts of sexual molestation, one count of unlawful coercion and one count of "lesser-degree rape". That line is cited. 331dot (talk) 10:44, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Note that a single act can result in multiple criminal charges. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 20:08, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello: I just significantly expanded the article John Appleton Brown. I do not think that it would still be classified as "stub" but am quite new and do not know protocols about this. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you Riverbend Trail (talk) 12:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Riverbend Trail Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you expand a stub article and feel it is no longer a stub, you may remove the stub tag from it. If someone disagrees with you, they will restore it- but I don't think that will happen in this case. 331dot (talk) 12:17, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you 331dot. Will do. Riverbend Trail (talk) 12:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Riverbend Trail, please also remember to go to the Talk page of the article and change the rating from Stub there (to Start if you think you've done an okay job, C if you've done good, or B if you think you've done really well!). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:17, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I notice that another user, David notMD, has now rated the article as C-Class: I would concur – nice work, Riverbend Trail! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.205.58.107 (talk) 20:20, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I wrote and published an article as referenced. There is very little written about the subject, in any coherent fashion. I have been trying to correct that and am writing a biography of this individual; much of which comes from my memory from my years of contact. There is a lot of unorganized material in the Frank VanDersarl Collection at the American Heritage Center, University of Wyoming that I have drawn on but there didn't seem to be a way to accurately credit that as a reference. This is my first effort to publish and will probably be my last and was only made for the same reasons that I am writing the biography: this man made significant contributions to aviation and has not been sufficiently recognized and acknowledged for his accomplishments. I have never edited an article but it seems that is a requirement in order to publish an article and I wonder why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Durangofox (talk • contribs) 18:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Durangofox Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It isn't absolutely a requirement to have edited existing articles before creating a new article, but it is a good idea to edit existing articles first, so you get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content.

I think you might be referring to the need to have ten edits and your account be four days old before being able to directly create an article. This is to ensure that you are not an automated robot and also to deter vandalism. You could just make ten edits somewhere to game that requirement, but it is a good idea for new users to submit drafts for review at

WP:CITE. 331dot (talk

) 18:16, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

Your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

18:32, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict):Hello, Durangofox. From what you say above, it sounds as if VanDesarl does not currently meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, in that little has been published about him: if that is the case, then it is a waste of anybody's time trying to write a Wikipedia article about him, as it will not be accepted: see no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability.

If you are writing a biography, then in the future this might change. If your biography gets published by a reputable publisher, then it can be cited as a

reliable source

, and contribute to his notability: it will not be enough on its own, but perhaps there are a few other independent reliable sources about him that together can meet the threshold.

However, even once it has been published, there may be a problem: citing your own work is regarded as editing with a conflict of interest: not forbidden, but discouraged; and if you decide to go ahead, you should certainly use the articles for creation process, and get your draft reviewed before moving it into main space. --ColinFine (talk) 18:35, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

ColinFine, I believe that this person is notable. As a teenager in 1911, he built and flew an airplane that is now in the National Air and Space Museum and is now in flying condition. Finding sources about him is easy, and I linked to three more above. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:57, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

This particular airplane is described in Blériot XI and there is a photo of it in that article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:48, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Is this the place where I can share my article and receive suggestions from fellow editors? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JosieJosie (talk • contribs) 2020-02-02T19:19:56 (UTC)

@JosieJosie: No, don't post it here. Post it in your sandbox instead. You can place {{subst:submit}} on it when you are ready for a review RudolfRed (talk) 20:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@JosieJosie: Also, please note that you cannot copy from other websites into Wikipedia. That is a copyright violation which is strictly not allowed. See the note on your current sandbox. RudolfRed (talk) 21:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Attached below is a link to an article I wrote about a Radio Host who is a host on 103.1 Virgin Radio. This is the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:DJ_Blitz

I would like to create a redirect page to simply send everyone to the current Wikipedia page of the station which has information about the subject. How do I go about doing this? Or could someone do that for me?

I want to page to simply redirect everyone to this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CKMM-FM

Thanks Krisrobertson (talk) 19:49, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Krisrobertson. To create a redirect page:

• Type the name of the page you want to create into the search box
• Pick the redlink after "You may create the page ".
• Insert #REDIRECT [[CKMM-FM]] into the page.
• Pick "Publish changes"

For more information, see WP:redirect. --ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Krisrobertson (talk • contribs) 22:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I was looking to move this draft to an article, but was not able to, probably because previous articles with that title have been deleted. I believe that notability criteria are now met: a search for Priya Prakash Varrier on NewsBank returns 942 items since 2018, although not all of them are good sources. I'd be grateful for help with this move or advice about any reasons why this isn't a suitable article. Thanks! BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:41, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

No, this should not be moved by some well-meaning editor recruited through the Teahouse. The article has been deleted in an AfD discussion and the title was create protected for very good reasons. The same thing happened to the draft (deleted in MfD and create protected); that create protection expired about a month ago. The appropriate course of action when dealing with AfD deleted articles is to contact the deleting administrator and explain what has changed since Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priya Prakash Varrier (nothing as far as I can tell...) --bonadea contributions talk 22:05, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

How do we report, or otherwise handle or deal with or bring attention to individuals who leverage administrative powers and refuse to review matters beyond cursory considerations?

What ensures that DRN's are not arbitrarily closed by

Please help us to help you. What is the issue? Where can we find it (URL)?

Administrators often agree with one another due to the fact that, after a certain amount of time on Wikipedia, certain patterns emerge. Policies are put in place to deal with the downside of these patterns, with which most administrators would concur, or else, perhaps, "give up the mop".--Quisqualis (talk) 04:38, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

The proper place to report administrator misconduct is

WP:ARB. This isn't the place to talk about it. John from Idegon (talk

) 04:45, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:ARB is the place to handle this issue unless or until it gets way too far out of hand; and based upon what I've encountered thus far, not sure if any such measures would do any good. If another admin gets involved and persists, then I might consider appealing to the arbitration committee. But, for now, I don't think the ignorance, malfeasance and/or corruption has gone that far. (But, maybe. If administrative meat-puppetry gets out of hand, it deserves a shot. Not to say that other administrators won't support their own, per the citation of Quis Custodient. There's never much you can do about Blue Shields. And even that doesn't matter too much. Eventually, enough people with bad attitudes along this front will help Wikipedia screw itself over; and, again, far outside of the average contributors' control at whatever point in time that takes shape. Be funny looking back over the long term, though.) PhanChavez (talk

) 07:13, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I think that the Teahouse is an appropriate place to discuss the general concept of administrator misconduct, especially since two well known administrators have been desysopped by ArbCom in recent days. The phrase "Who will watch the watchmen?" goes back to the Romans and is highly related in my mind to Karl Marx's later question "Who will educate the educators?" and today, it also has to do with questions of police brutality and prosecutorial misconduct. These are very valid questions. I was always tempted to answer Marx's question with

diffs showing the specific misconduct. Other steps may follow. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

05:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I support Cullen328 on this. --Sm8900 (talk) 07:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:TROUT the admins and users who are neglecting their responsibilities toward review and objectivity.) Here's the Talk page. Why aren't User:RoySmith and User:Ad Orientem anywhere on that page, but crawling all over my talk page? PhanChavez (talk

) 06:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@

redirect for discussion on the Talk page, per previous issues I went through while learning. In other words: Admins don't seem to care about new users citing, logging, documenting, or articulating details behind actions taken, so much as performing administrative actions without adequate or proper review. That's my issue. Any attempt to take the time to point this out, that I've taken the time, reviewed things, understand how things work, and it's just as easily disregarded! New user? BAH! Not trustworthy. Review? BAH! Not worth the time or effort, but equally flippant administrative actions: "Well justified." PhanChavez (talk

) 06:56, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

* If I'm wrong... Where is the "talk" or explanation from so-called experienced users and administrators? Did I not explain actions taken on the talk page? Did I not talk about it? Why am I getting pinged and hammered on my talk page without regard for efforts I've already undertaken? Or is that too much to ask? Why bother? Unless you just so happen to know an admin who recruits you and supports your actions? PhanChavez (talk) 07:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

PhanChavez, editors who deliberately engage in edit warring to make a point will be blocked and those who persist in this kind of disruptive editing will be blocked indefinitely. There is plenty of room for newcomers to engage positively but little tolerance for chronic disruptors. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: I appreciated your initial comments. Repeating what I already know, and where I admitted fault, knowingly, to draw-out a point, not so much. Especially since the repetitious nature fails to address the concern at hand: Administrators engaging in sock/meat-puppetry. I notice you didn't address that issue. Is there an issue? Have you engaged in such yourself? PhanChavez (talk) 08:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

PhanChavez, from looking over Aid Worker Security Database, the core issue seems to be as follows

1. Regardless of whether
   WP:CUTPASTE
   move that erases the article's edit history, which is a problem both from an ease-of-editing perspective and from a legal perspective. Reversions of your attempt to create the article this way are correct, and it is part of AdOrientem's role as an administrator to step in in situations like this and revert back to the status quo ante.
2. At
   WP:AfD
   . That three different AfC reviewers have felt that the article isn't ready to be published, however, is a bad sign for the survival chances of that article at AfD.

As a final note, I'd add that "be bold" is advice for how to make new changes. It is not a license to ignore other editors' objections. Even one editor objecting to a bold edit is enough to justify the enforcement of its removal, pending discussion to conclusively reach a consensus on the matter at a relevant talk page. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 08:10, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@

I'll let it go as of now. PhanChavez (talk

) 08:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

TL;DR summary: Admins following the policies is no "misconduct" or 3RR-subversion. Expanding redirects to proper articles could be

some months. –84.46.53.137 (talk

) 18:22, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Possible Reply to User:PhanChavez

I would like to reply to User:PhanChavez, but I am not entirely sure where to start. I can see that they are angry at me and are unhappy with what I have done. If all that they want to do is to express unhappiness and anger, they have done that. I am getting tired of their scolding of me, but perhaps I should simply ignore them if it makes them feel less bad. I know that PhanChavez is unhappy with my handling of two drafts. I know that PhanChavez wants to tell everyone that they are unhappy with my handling of two drafts. I don't know if they want me to do something. It appears that they are also unhappy with and angry at User:Ad Orientem and User:RoySmith. It isn't clear to me whether they want a wrong righted. Maybe they just want to complain If they want a wrong righted, what is the wrong? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:59, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

• I'm in much the same place. User:PhanChavez, much is obvious. It's obvious that you're angry. It's obvious that you're not really a new user. What's not obvious is what you're angry about. May I suggest that you calm down, say what it is that you are upset about, and what you would like to see done to correct it? I can't promise we can accomodate you, but you'll have a better chance that way than if you just continue to rant. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:23, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Guys. I've been in Wikipedia for a while and I have realized I don't really know how to differ a single from a promotional single when it is only released digitally. There are songs that are shown in digital music platforms as "singles" but some of them are consider by wikipedists as "promotional singles". I don't if it has to be recognize by the artist as a single, or it has to be mentioned to be one on a music publication.

For example, a publication on NME [6] refers to "Leave It Alone" by Hayley Williams as a "new single" and the second to be released from her album Petals for Armor. The song has been released digitally (as "Simmer", the first album single and considered as a "single") in most of the digital well-known music platforms. So I don't know how to deem a song as a single or a promotional one. Thanks in advance! --Saviourofthe (talk) 22:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Saviourofthe. I have no idea about that question specifically, But when a question arises of how to refer to something , the answer is usually "what do the reliable sources say?". If those sources call it a "single", then that is what the article should call it - unless other reliable sources call it something else, in which case there may be a need for some judgment. --ColinFine (talk) 00:15, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!!--Saviourofthe (talk) 01:47, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@

WT:SONGS, since they seem to be the Wikiproject focused on individual songs. —[AlanM1(talk

)]— 01:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank You!--Saviourofthe (talk) 01:47, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

To whom it may concern,

Re: Michael Price, Composer

Hi my name is Zoe and I married Michael Price (the joint Emmy winning Sherlock composer with David Arnold) in 1998. We both worked, at the time, for Michael Kamen (Composer). Michael was one of two (along with James Brett) arranger, producers and I was Michael Kamens private PA.

My maiden name was Zoe Elizabeth Moore and I became that year Zoe Elizabeth Price.

We were very happy for some time but life took us in different directions.

I think it is very important to give all and true facts on your site.

Should you need to confirm these details please contact Michael Price directly via his website.

If possible, please let me know by return that these facts and details have been updated.

Thank you.

With very best wishes.

Yours faithfully,

Zoe (redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.38.215 (talk) 20:28, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your information is appreciated. Please understand, though, that Wikipedia summarizes what independent

WP:REALNAME

.

I have removed your phone number for your protection; personal contact information should not be posted in this public forum. In addition, if at all possible, Wikipedia business should be conducted on Wikipedia, for openness and transparency. Only the most sensitive private information should be discussed by email. 331dot (talk) 20:49, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

It's about Michael Price (composer) David notMD (talk) 01:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

At present, there is no Personal life section. If your marriage and divorce were reported in a publication that could be considered a reliable source, such a section could be created and that content added. David notMD (talk) 01:52, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm confused, what are wikiprojects — Preceding

To learn about WikiProjects, read WikiProject and WP:WikiProject. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have edited 10 articles. Does that mean I can submit my article and it will be published automatically? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristine70 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles for creation, even if you don't technically need to, until you build up experience. It's better for you to find out issues with your work before it gets into the encyclopedia, instead of afterwards. 331dot (talk

) 01:12, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

As an

WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk

) 01:15, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

formal encyclopedic tone. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓

01:21, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Against all advice, you went ahead and created Ace Hudkins. Now, you will see if it remains an article or goes to Article for Deletion (AfD). Most of the content has no references. I suggest you either delete all that or add references. David notMD (talk) 01:57, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

• Update: Back at Draft:Ace Hudkins. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 04:14, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, so I just finished writing the plot section for The Last Faust (will do formatting later on this text) and am wondering if there's a wiki page where I can post the article for the plot to be reviewed? I sort of remember reading about a page like this in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film but cannot find it anymore. Woul be great if someone could link this page to me or review the 'Plot' part themselves. Thanks! Zeeshka (talk) 02:38, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Zeeshka: You can post it on the article's talk page for interested editors to comment on. RudolfRed (talk) 04:23, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Can public archives be cited on Wikipedia and what is the correct format for citation? Stirpicult (talk) 23:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi

secondary sources are generally required when it comes to trying to add interpretations of such sources to Wikipedia article. So, once again, whether a "source" can be used depends upon whether it's considered to be reliable and the context of how it's going to be used. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 01:39, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Marchjuly.

Thank you for the follow up and information. I was referring to historical archives belonging to historical societies, museums, universities, libraries, etc. If the source is indeed reliable, what is the preferred citation for archival collections?Stirpicult (talk) 02:16, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

You wouldn't really cite the archive is such a case unless it is the original generator of the source content; what you would need to do, at least in my opinion, is assess the nature of the content you want to cite and then cite it. For example, the

WP:CITESTYLE. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 05:23, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have quoted reliable references for the the wiki page 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:O.N.Sundaram'. Why is not accepted? What reliable sources are needed? The sources provided are reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shan snk (talk • contribs) 08:59, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Shan snk, Draft:O.N.Sundaram was declined as there are no sources. You had a source to another Wikipedia article, but this isn't permitted (we can't say something is correct because we said it was correct).

For an article, we need sourcing, from independent, reliable sources, in order so that users can verify what you have written.

wp:42 is a shorter overview of what reliable sources are, or you could read the full policy at Wikipedia:Reliable sources ~~ Alex Noble - talk

09:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Also, they are probably presumed notable, which means that if you can find sources just to support what you've written, rather than having also demonstrate they are notable. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 09:12, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you everyone for the work you do here. I created an article NECLive that has been flagged for lack of notability and advert contents. I wish to humbly state that the subject of this article is notable to be on Wikipedia. The subject, "NECLive" enjoys wide media coverage and is mentioned in several headlines and should not be described as "trivial mention". This article cites several independent and veritable secondary sources as can be seen in the references section. Many of the secondary sources are leading national media organizations such as Punch, The Guardian (Nigeria), The Sun (Nigeria) Premium Times, The Nation, Vanguard, Channel Television among several other secondary sources. I am a beginner editor and may not be conversant with all the rules of Wikipedia but before I contribute any article I spend time conducting research to ensure I obtain enough facts and secondary sources to back it up. I urge senior editors to have a look at this article, help put it in good, lift the notability tag and review it to go live.

This article is also flagged for being written like an advert but I can't understand the nature of advert contents therein so I could do a clean up of those contents. As I said earlier, I am a junior editor learning how to edit and contribute to Wikipedia but I wish to kindly say that there are no intentional advert contents inputted in the article. Gideens (talk) 08:06, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I've removed a lot of material from the lead, as both promotional and not directly about the subject. Maproom (talk) 09:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

On Marianne Githens page, there is a statement which is seemingly true, but also seems like gossip.

"In 1986, Githen's widowed mother, Anita, married her deceased husband's younger brother William French Githens." Oiona (talk) 09:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Marianne Githens

It's not really related to the subject of this particular page?

So, is it against the rules to delete it?

many thanks for any help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oiona (talk • contribs) 09:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

An editor agreed with you and deleted the content for reasons of not being about the subject of the article. David notMD (talk) 10:33, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello my name is Michael John Treanor and I am a British actor.I was wondering if anyone could help me create a Wikipedia page as I have done some great work and worked alongside many A list actors and have appeared in many TV series and feature films and I would like to expand my business with a visible Wikipedia page.

I was also part of the cast of "The World Is Yours" which has a Wikipedia page and my role was Glasgow Ranger.Can you add me please?

I really don't understand how to do this but I was wondering if anyone could help and point me in the right direction?

Thank you.

Here are links to my IMDb page and website which shows my CV.

https://www.imdb.me/7842996 https://www.michaeljohntreanor.com

Here is a newspaper article from Spanish paper 'El Pais' in which I have a great write up in the 7th paragraph down and a picture and also 2 other articles. https://elpais.com/cultura/2019/08/09/television/1565351638_290898.html http://www.firstshowing.net/2018/first-teaser-for-romain-gavras-the-world-is-yours-playing-at-cannes/

https://pro.imdb.com/news/article/ni62326418/nm7842996?ref_=news_nm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael John Treanor (talk • contribs) 13:15, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Michael John Treanor: In short: Don't. Wikipedia is not for promoting yourself and you would have no editorial control over anything in that article. You might want to read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If you are really notable, someone else will sooner or later create an article anyway but we do not accept requests from people who want an article written about themselves. Regards SoWhy 13:22, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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notability guidelines. I'm sorry if that comes across as blunt - it's not in any way to diminish your acting achievements, it's just that we have strict guidelines on who qualifies for an article and, on the basis of what you've provided, I don't think you do. Hug^syrup

13:27, 3 February 2020 (UTC)