Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1062

Resolved

 – Table format has been fixed. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:29, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I tried to add some information about the current town council of

@Undurbjáni: Appears we had an edit conflict. Feel free to change the colours, but my diff should have fixed how the table looks. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Someday, they will understand me. 114.108.217.80 (talk) 05:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a question? As far as I’ve checked, all your edits have been unconstructive. I checked and you have even edited random IP editors’ talk pages for no reason.

RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk

06:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

FYI

 – Heading created by Tenryuu. 07:13, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

What can I remove from my article. Can you help me? Editorlanpao (talk) 06:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Editorlanpao: Please specify which one you're referring to. Draft:Lukanand Kshetrimayum, which has been rejected by reviewers, or Romi Meitei, of which you made a draft and decided to merge into the preexisting article? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Accidental edit on Wikidata was reverted. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I deleted a maintenance page about speedy deletions in another language thinking that it was a language that was set on my account and not languages for the article. Is there a consequence and is there a way to reverse the changes? Capsulecap (talk) 00:48, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Capsulecap Depends on the language. They're technically a separate project than us, so their policies may differ. You can't restore the page? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

What page are you referring to? You only seem to have edits to the English Wikipedia, so you don't seem to be referring to another language Wikipedia. Almost all changes here are reversible. – Thjarkur (talk) 01:05, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Capsulecap: You Global contributions show only a single non-en-wiki edit (see this edit to Wikidata). I have taken the liberty of reverting it for you. Hope that was what you wanted? In future, it would save everyone a lot of trouble if you thought about providing a link or a diff to the page that you are concerned about. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:11, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Yes. Thank you for reversing the edit!

Capsulecap (talk) 00:48, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Capsulecap: You're welcome. You could have reverted it yourself, of course - just find the diff and click 'undo' and provide an edit summary to explain why (e.g. "self-revert") Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

 – User in question has been blocked; referred to

WP:ANV to report vandalism. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 07:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

XLK123 (talk) 06:21, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

User 111.125.119.6

FYI

 – Section merged to above. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Please can the user 111.125.119.6 be blocked, as they have had five warnings, but still they are vandalising.

XLK123 (talk) 06:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

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I have an article that I had created more than about a month ago, and I would like to delete it because it needs more sources and a big expansion in informations. I do not know how to delete it so; please who would do it if you can do it Thank you. Mr. James Dimsey (talk) 08:48, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

speedy deletion criterion G13.

Have you tried asking for help with the draft at Wikipedia:WikiProject Sudan? Perhaps some member of that WikiProject can take a look at the draft and help figure out whether there's any potential for it to someday become an article. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 09:02, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Teahouse. I'm not really a new editor, just a little confused about something. I requested a change to a Wikidata entry, wikidata:Q210499 ("bulletin board system"), at wikidata:Wikidata:Project_chat#Cannot_change_Q210499. However it's gone ignored, while many questions asked later were answered. It seems like perhaps such changes ought to be discussed at enwiki, or jawiki? Or what? Or am I just impatient? :-) Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 03:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Psiĥedelisto. I see a reply to your post at Wikidata, two days before this post here. In any case, I can't see how this is anything do to with en-wiki. --ColinFine (talk) 09:59, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Once I have vastly improved a start class article how does it get a higher rating? Robbiegibbons (talk) 08:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:FA, then there is a set process that the article will need to navigate through which involves being formally assessed be editors who are experienced in doing such things. There are specific criteria that need to be met for each and articles are generally only upgraded to GA or FA status when there is a consensus to do so. In other words, you cannot just decide to declare an article to be GA or FA on your own; you need to submit it for review. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 08:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Personally, after I have improved (?) an article I do not upgrade the class rank. I figure someone else will. Given what you have accomplished at Eureka Flag, you could consider nominating for GA. You may consider removing the "Derivatives and variants section" as distantly tangent to the topic of the article. David notMD (talk) 12:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi There,

I'm very new to the world of Wikipedia and I had an article rejected about 5/6 months ago. I haven't had time to look at it, but am hoping to revisit it and get it published.

The reason for rejection was: The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. If someone could advise what I need to do to fix this I'd be really grateful! The page is:

Thanks, Ciaran CiaranJones7 (talk) 10:24, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

CiaranJones7 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you follow the link in the message,(click "Referencing for beginners") it will take you to the page that explain how to cite sources. 331dot (talk) 10:27, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

talk

) 10:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

talk

) 10:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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WP:SURNAME, but these are relatively minor and shouldn’t impact whether the draft will be accepted. Another thing has to do with the image used in the infobox. You uploaded the image to Commons as your “own work”, but the exif data for the file seems to attribute the file to another person and states it was taken about seven years prior to the you provided in the file’s description. So, if you didn’t take this photo yourself, then you’re not really its copyright holder and thus can’t upload it to Commons as your “own work”. If that’s the case, please look at c:COM:OTRS#If you are NOT the copyright holder for reference. — Marchjuly (talk

) 11:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:SURNAME issues. Really appreciate all of your time. — CiaranJones7 (talk

) 13:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion

I'm confused at why this is proposed for deletion? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stay_Until_Tomorrow_(Film)

https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Stay+Until+Tomorrow%22+Film Abbotstown (talk) 13:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

If you click the link in the notice that says "this articles entry" it takes you to the page (

talk

) 13:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Note that most of the links your google search throws up,

independent, reliable sources. The Variety review probably is, but I'm not sure any others in the first page are. You can contribute to the discussion, but please read the "primers" mentioned in the box on the discussion page first, especially Help:My article got nominated for deletion!, --ColinFine (talk

) 13:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Citations

Hello, thanks for inviting me to the group. I would very much like to add citations to a page I am creating but struggling to do that in an effective way. Any advice would be hugely appreciated. 82.28.97.161 (talk) 13:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey IP editor and welcome to the Teahouse. The first step is to find sources (could be on Google) which meet Wikipedia's definition of a

WP:ERB. Feel free to follow up with further questions. Hillelfrei ^talk

14:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with draft

Draft:Kanza Javed

Hi, can someone help me with my wikipedia draft? they keep rejecting it and I am not understanding clearly why Saad Haseeb (talk) 05:15, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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WP:EASYREFBEGIN. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 05:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Note,

need not be in English. If you can find any Urdu sources on Kanza, please feel free to message me on my talk page and I'll see what I can do to help. Best, M Imtiaz (talk · contribs

) 15:57, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipoll #1

Should we make a option to disable accounts ( like Fandom )?

Yes or No Another Wiki User the 2nd (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:VPIL (though you did forget to sign your post there, which you might like to think about fixing). Nick Moyes (talk

) 16:28, 26 May 2020 (UTC).  

We can already disable accounts if they are disruptive in any way. If you mean delete accounts, no, I don’t think there should be such an option due to the issues with attributing authorship of Wikipedia (of course, I think there should be a way to delete vandals’ accounts, but then again, implementing it would be hard). By the way, polls are generally not the best way to gauge community opinion, as a horde of not-so-well-informed people may vote in one way without proper knowledge of the topic. Consensus is the way we settle disputes and conduct discussions.

RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk

16:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Closed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Another Wiki User the 2nd (talk • contribs) 16:31, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Editing On Wikipedia

hi.i would like to know how to edit on wikipedia Beatsbymellow (talk) 17:01, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello

WP:TUTORIAL. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 17:11, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Access to deleted articles

Resolved

 – Only admins can see deleted content; public logs show time and reason for deletion. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, came across this article here on a blackhat site that claims that deleted articles are viewable by any editor via the deletion log. Is this correct? regards Atlantic306 (talk) 17:34, 25 May 2020

@Atlantic306: No. Only administrators may see deleted articles. The deletion log will only show that the article was deleted and the reason for it. RudolfRed (talk) 17:37, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 18:07, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed and Atlantic306: If a page creation or edit hits a public filter, even if the content is now deleted, you are able to see the edit/page. Worse yet, administrators cannot simply revdel abuse filter log entries; the only way to prevent people from viewing abuse filter hits of a public filter requires oversight. With promotional/autobiographical/COI article creations especially, they very often trigger abuse filters, which though it makes it easier for non-admin IRC help channel helpers (like me) to explain to them why their article was deleted, it could be otherwise problematic if it's a copyright violation, attack page, etc. Best, Vermont (talk) 04:10, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks, that needs fixing imv Atlantic306 (talk) 17:27, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

How May I claim Mason County Washington State

How May I claim Mason County Washington State? Victorianajayme (talk) 17:45, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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WP:OWN. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 17:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:PAID. RudolfRed (talk

) 17:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia Biography for an Architect

 Courtesy link: Draft:Camilo Rebelo

Camilo Rebelo I would like to ask why my submission got declined. I am an assistant of Architect. Camilo Rebelo and we are trying to create his Wikipedia biography since he as an architect and artist did a lot of works and contributions... Could you please tell me how to do it. P.S All the information written by me was provided by the Architect it self. CR1972 (talk) 18:05, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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WP:PAID, as restrictions become much tighter if monetary exchange is suspected. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 18:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Biography page and conflict of interest guidelines

Hi - Thanks for encouraging questions. My sister and I had prepared a page documenting my father's role in early rock climbing and ski mountaineering in Southern California, the US Southwest, the Bugaboos, and Wisconsin prior to WW II. It's similar in nature to the active Wikipedia page on Glen Dawson (they were close friends and did many climbs together). From what I am reading about conflict of interest I'm getting the feeling that we should abandon this plan and find another place to post our page. Is this what you would advise? It's a completely factual page with all statements in it documented. My father died in 1996 so obviously he would not benefit in any way from posting the page, nor would we. We just thought that this piece of history would be important to add to Wikipedia.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. We have spent a good deal of time compiling this page and obviously should have taken a closer look at Wikipedia's guidelines before doing so. We would be very sad if it were not possible to post to Wikipedia but we would totally understand. Thanks in advance. Donna Dmbrinton (talk) 16:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

your first article. --ColinFine (talk

) 18:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Creating a wikipedia page

I am trying to create a wikipedia page for myself. I put it together but it has USER in the title of it after I published it. How can I make this public? Carla C. Johnson (talk) 17:48, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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writing about yourself is strongly discouraged. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 17:51, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

WP:USERPAGE

for mo0re detail.

The page

conflict of interest

.

Given all that, would you like the page mo0ved to the Draft space? DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:13, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Url help.

Please tell me how to include a URL in my page. Lelandken (talk) 18:45, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

Wikilink, a link to the word's Wikipedia article. Feel free to ask if you would like further clarification. Regards, Hillelfrei ^talk

18:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@

guideline on user pages. For help on wikitext markup, please feel free to take a look at Help:Cheatsheet. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs

) 19:13, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up to Peer review

So, I figured out how to file the peer review, but now I have another question. What do I do now? Do I just wait? Thanks in advance. Stay safe and well, --Total Eclipse 2017 ^{(My profile | My contribs | speak to me)} 19:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

help with making a wikipedia page

I have a few questions. One, how do I create a wikipedia page? I have also done research on wikipedia writers but i'm not sure if they are a scam considering the high prices. Do you know of any legit wikipedia writers who are credible? or is that not a thing and it's more worth it to do it yourself? I would greatly appreciate help from anybody. 2001:579:7180:28:C806:38EA:8C11:C9BE (talk) 19:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC) Lola keller 2001:579:7180:28:C806:38EA:8C11:C9BE (talk) 19:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Lola. I'd be interested to know what prices you've seen? But, to be perfectly frank, no amount of money is ever going to get a Wikipedia article about someone if that person is not notable in the first place. Never be duped into thinking you can pay someone to write about you here - it really is not 'a thing'. We are all volunteers - apart from a few bad apples. If you meet our

WP:YFA. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk

) 19:39, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Lola. I believe that some professional editors are legit, more are scammers, and many, while not outright scammers, promise more than they can in fact deliver. As Nick Moyes said above, no amount of money spent (or of good writing) will get an article about a no0n-notable person (or topic) to stay around long.If the topic is indeed notable, a professional might help with putting an article together, but interesting an experienced volunteer editor will probably get better results for free, if an editor's interest can be attracted. Note that Wikipedia articles are not "pages" in the sense that social media has "pages". A Wikipedia article summarizes what published

independent sources. If there are no good sources, there will not be an article. If there are sufficient good sources, than an article could be created, as a rule. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs}

19:58, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Headline "Chicago" more leads to huge metro area - no reference to Cook County nor 6 county area.

I'm resident of River Grove, Illinois. Located in Cook County. I'm age 78, degreed Elecrical Engineer.

Growing up I heard: Population Numbers: Chicago - 3.5 Million Cook County - 5 Million All 6 Surrounding Counties 9 Million Entire State of Illinois - 11 Million

So, I wondered why so much contention tween "US and THEM". LET'S SUCCEED FROM ILLINOIS!

Your article is lacking but I loved your:

"assuming that the efforts of others are in good faith". "Stay cool!"

or my mother's: "It's ok to disagree, but not to be disagreeable"

Respectfully Submitted; TOCAR Tocar2662 (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tocar2662: Welcome to the Teahouse. Did you have a question to ask about using or editing Wikipedia? I'm surmising that this may have something to do with the Chicago article? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Reference/Citation formats

When using the visual editor to reference something you can click on the "cite" button at the top of the page and it gives you a bunch of options. When choosing between the manual options you're given the option between: Website, Book, News, Journal, and Basic Form. My question is:

When would you ever choose Basic form and if someone else cited something using the Basic form while also including a URL or book is it appropriate to re-cite the source as a website or book?

For a specific situation, I was looking to add citation information to this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anishinaabe Reference number 6 appears to be in basic form but there is a link to a google book. So could I remove the reference and re-cite it as a book? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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WP:CITESTYLE, since many of the other references on the page use one of the cite templates, I think it would be fine to use {{cite book}} for reference #6, as long as all the data currently visible remains visible with the template. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk

) 21:52, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

If I try to edit a semi-protected page, how does this work?

I have tried to add an image on a page that is semi-protected. I am not able to ascertain whether I qualify to be able to edit it and as the image I added has not appeared, I do not know whether I have done it incorrectly or whether it is awaiting some sort of approval and 3rd person intervention. How do I find out what is happening? Many thanks. Twotonetoo (talk) 22:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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edits as minor. Minor edits are very small changes like punctuation fixes. Ian.thomson (talk

) 22:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Is something 'upcoming' if there's zero evidence to support that it is under development anymore?

So, this came up as a joke on Twitter, but honestly it's actually kind of a fair question: If a video game shows no signs of being under development, at what point does it go from being 'upcoming' to 'canceled' in the opening sentence, "EXAMPLE is an upcoming video game developed by..." Do we have to wait for someone to acknowledge that it's officially canceled, or can we just infer that from no evidence of a game and the trademark being declared abandoned?

Article this question pertains too, specifically: Agent (video game). The Navigators (talk) 19:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@The Navigators: Welcome to the Teahouse! That's an interesting question. My take is that we summarize what reliable sources say, and we should not conduct original research or compose inferences based on the lack of sources. I welcome other editors to respond as well. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 20:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable sources should not have a standalone article. This then neatly avoids the question: if the definite release date passes without fanfare, the article will simply say so; otherwise, it has enough sourcing, as GoingBatty said, for the article to say the game won't be released. As for Agent, I'm wondering what's left after we filter out the press releases and pieces based on them. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs

) 21:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rotideypoc41352: Sorry I wasn't clear. I am NOT advocating that we make a statement saying the game has been cancelled or won't be released. We should only report what reliable sources state. We might have to tweak the language (e.g. maybe change "Agent is to be set" to "Agent was announced to be set"), but a lack of statements doesn't mean we should guess at the current state. GoingBatty (talk) 21:15, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@GoingBatty and Rotideypoc41352: I posted on the WikiProject Video games talk page, asking for some assistance, and left links directing them to come here and chat with us.--The Navigators (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

This is a tricky question when it comes to Agent. Given that the trademark is expired and no updates have been given, we should either remove the "upcoming" and confirm that it appears to be in limbo, or outright call it cancelled with citations to back up the claim. I can't recall any at the moment, but there have been other cases of games just vanishing into limbo like Agent and being classed as cancelled with suitable sources. --ProtoDrake (talk) 21:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Point of order: There was a discussion about this on the article's talk page back in October 2019. See here. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: I apologize for missing the fact this had been brought up on the talk page previously.--The Navigators (talk) 02:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Do make sure to exhaust our (that is, WP:VG's as well as WP's own) RS, as I came up with this Feb 2019 article that's not yet included [1], and based on how Polygon talks of the project, I would treat it as cancelled rather than upcoming but making sure to justify it with Polygon's rationale in the body (that the teams behind it have been moved to other projects, assets maybe used on other projects, etc.) Should the game actually be revived we can fix, but everyone else in the world (that is a reliable source) is treated it as canned. This is not like a development hell game ala Duke Nukem Forever where we were told for years and years "its coming". --Masem (t) 01:40, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Is it worth taking this article to AFD (Articles for Deletion)? Other than Polygon, I don't see significant coverage from non-press release-y publications. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

You could consider using the word "projected", which does not imply whether or not the game will ever be released, just that it hasn't been yet. Maproom (talk) 07:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Maproom, ProtoDrake, GoingBatty, and Rotideypoc41352:Maproom, You could be onto something there, or maybe "proposed"?--The Navigators (talk) 20:26, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@The Navigators: "proposed", "projected", or "announced" are all reasonable candidates. I prefer the third out of those myself. After all, it was announced. In fact, that's all that happened really. --ProtoDrake (talk) 21:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I'd just use "unreleased". It's both accurate and doesn't really imply it's been canceled. The game's unlikely to come out at this point so I think "unreleased" would convey that it's probably not coming out, but also not officially canceled. JOEBRO64 00:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

New article about a scientist for the Women in Science project - by a first-time Wikipedia writer-dude

Hi,

I just wrote my very first Wikipedia article about a scientist, and did it in response to this Women in Science project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Missing_articles_by_dictionary/Biographical_Dictionary_of_Women_in_Science

My draft which I just submitted for review is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mildred_Hoge_Richards

I had a couple questions. 1. I confirmed that Mildred Hoge Richards, who my article is about, was missing a Wikipedia article in the first link. If/when my article is approved, how do I connect my article to the people doing the WiR project? 2. How do I get feedback on my article before the 5 weeks it takes for approval - I am sure I am not doing things exactly right and would appreciate slightly quicker feedback/help on my article before it gets turned down a month+ from now.

Many thanks!!

First-time-Wiki-Dude Ohiram (talk) 00:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

the help desk. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 00:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up to Failure of Contents to Float at Left of Infobox

Resolved

 – Issue resolved with this diff. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: User:Rmhadsell/sandbox

The problem of a number of blank lines below the Table of Contents box does not involve the initial text (Carolyn Lee Jones is an American jazz-pop vocalist who . . .). The problem is blank lines below the Table of Contents box, before the heading "Biography" appears. Biography and a few lines below it should wrap against the left side of the Infobox. What do I need to change in my Sandbox to make this happen? Rmhadsell (talk) 21:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC) Rmhadsell (talk) 21:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rmhadsell: Welcome back to the Teahouse. I made a change; is that what you were looking for? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Your change took care of the problem. I wish that this and other simple problems were anticipated in a user-friendly users manual for Wikipedia. I have retired from a career in online training, much of which dealt with training in use of software. Thanks. Rmhadsell (talk) 23:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rmhadsell: Glad to hear it's all working out now. For future reference, you do not need to manually call for the table of contents; the software will automatically insert one when the article has at least 4 headings. There are multiple sources of help out here on Wikipedia that mention specific things, but consolidating each minor tidbit into one resource would probably be new-user unfriendly. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Reshma Ghimire

I have removed many external links from the biography, there are only 3 external references and 1 youtube link. Please help me i still get " draft may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion because in its current form it serves only to promote or publicise an entity, person, product, or idea, and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic." error. Draft:Reshma_Ghimire Rupakgyawali (talk) 03:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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WP:NPOV before doing so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 03:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Reshma Ghimire

FYI

 – Merged with above section. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

can i paste all the content of deleted article with removing every external links in new draft? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupakgyawali (talk • contribs) 03:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rupakgyawali: The major issue right now is the deleted content, not the references. Removing only the external links is not going to solve the problem. Please do not make another section for a related question like this. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Mobile homepage

They finally fixed the mobile homepage, it's supercool now. It came out of the blue for me though. Anyone knows where the discussion took place? I'm not complaining, I really like it. Just wanted to read up on the process. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 15:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Probably NOT about Mobile home. David notMD (talk) 20:16, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah it's about en.m.wikipedia.org. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 05:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

How to get my content posted on Wikipedia?

I wanted to get my bio on Wikipedia so I wanted to ask which guidelines I should follow? Dyce Official (talk) 05:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

KS Malefo

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Writing about yourself is also strongly discouraged on here. Perhaps you are thinking of a site closer to LinkedIn? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 05:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RAJINDER_SINGH_MEENA/sandbox

 

talk

) 05:37, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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conflict of interest with yourself as the subject. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 05:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Looking for advice on article: merge, delete, or expand?

Hi, The_Ancient_Science_of_Numbers just appeared on the Community Portal as an article in need of editing. In looking over it, I'm not convinced it meets notability guidelines as a stand-alone article--there are a few references that indicate the book has been occasionally cited, but its author isn't notable enough to meet notability guidelines (his work hasn't produced a substantial impact, as far as I can tell). I'd like to nominate the article for restructuring, but I'm not sure what category I should nominate it in or even if it deserves nomination for deletion/merger/something else. Can someone give me guidance? (As the choice of forum suggests, I'm very new to Wikipedia and still learning about the encyclopedia's processes. Any advice you can offer is much appreciated!) KilimAnnejaro (talk) 01:10, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

notable.. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs}

06:19, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

want to rescue my sources from deletion on wikimedia, any help please

dear all,

i was advised by wikimedia that the following will be deleted due to copyright violation, while these are articles from news papers and public logos for the yacht clubs: Affected:

• File:Byc burgee.jpg

And also:

• File:Lebanese Yacht Club Burgee.jpg
• File:Lyc-Burgee.svg
• File:Coupe Challenge Kettaneh 2 august 4 year 1963.jpg
• File:Coupe Challenge Kettaneh 1 august 5 year 1963.jpg
• File:Coupe Mc Clintock 22 july 63.jpg
• File:Decree no 7454 by Lebanese President Camille Chamoun 14 December 1954.jpg
• File:3 july 63.jpg
• File:3 june 63.jpg
• File:US Enterprise 1963 Orient 23 june 1963 back page.jpg
• File:US Enterprise 1963 23 JUNE Orient Sport cover page.jpg
• File:2eme regata 15 juillet 1963.jpg
• File:3eme regata 12 august 1963.jpg
• File:4eme regate 1963 9 may.jpg
• File:Premiere regate 14 june 1964.jpg
• File:Regate pour les class a et b lorient sport 16 May 1963.jpg
• File:Un Spectacle de choix Lorient Sport 8 July 1963.jpg
• File:Albaladonline page 13 july 2nd 2010.jpg

can anyone help me here, much appreciate your assistance. Princesse Marissa (talk) 18:42, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Princesse Marissa Princesse Marissa (talk) 18:42, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:NONFREE image use criteria if they are copyrighted. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 19:07, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Princesse Marissa: Based on ... these are articles from news papers and public logos for the yacht clubs, I'm afraid you might misunderstand the meaning of copyright. Newspaper articles are copyrighted, as are most logos. Simply publishing something or displaying it publicly does not somehow remove copyright. See the various links that you have been given for the details, but generally, creative works are copyrighted by their creators for some period of time (usually decades) after creation or the creator's death, depending on the nature of the work and the applicable jurisdiction. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:15, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: I see, so there is nothing i can do here? Princesse Marissa (talk) 05:13, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Princesse Marissa, you have been advised correctly. Newspaper cuttings are covered by copyright, and you should not upload them to Wikimedia Commons (or to Wikipedia). However, you can cite them as sources in articles, giving the bibliographical details: name of newspaper, name of writer, publication date, page and column number, title of article. Maproom (talk) 07:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Maproom i already did that, you mean what is done now is correct even after wikimedia delete the uploaded file?

waiting for your feedback Princesse Marissa (talk) 10:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Princesse Marissa, I haven't checked all of them. But the way you have cited several issues of L'Orient Sports in Draft:Beirut Yacht Club is correct. There is no need to upload scans of the articles to Wikimedia Commons; and indeed, such scans will not be accepted there. (I think it would help to expand "local, regional and national regattas" to name those regattas which are cited in the sources you cite.) Maproom (talk) 18:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Maproom, thank you and well noted the valuable information, have a great day.Princesse Marissa (talk) 06:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Disappointment

FYI

 – Heading created by Tenryuu. 04:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I am not angry but i'm disappointed with the decision you have made on behalf wikipedia. ! respected your organization very highly until this day and you have hurt the team. As captain of 3rds football I will be expressing to the boys that wikipedia have done us dirty. I will not be recommending your services to anyone else. King Regards, Skip Yianniswiki123 (talk) 04:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Yianniswiki123: I'm sorry to hear that the decision "we" (whom that is referring to remains up to debate) made on behalf of Wikipedia disagreed with you. If you are referring to Draft:3rds Footy, it is devoid of content and not suitable for its own article in its current state. If you wish to discuss this on here, that is fine, but we would ask you to refrain from making personal attacks like you have done almost a year ago. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:37, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Cannot understand what you are upset about, as there is no content in the declined draft other than "3rds". David notMD (talk) 11:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Publishing Draft Article

Hi, I have recently made a draft article, Can you please let me know how this page is now reviewed and pushed live from draft to article on the site? Is there anything else i need to do? and how long can it take?

Many Thanks RudyFarr-Leander (talk) 07:10, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 07:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks indeed CW, will read the article as i am new to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RudyFarr-Leander (talk • contribs) 07:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Your draft

WP:TOOSOON. David notMD (talk

) 11:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Submit draft for review

I don't know how to submit a draft for review. How do I do it? 

talk

) 10:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 11:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

CIA disinformation

A whole bunch of CIA disinformation has been placed on Wikipedia our best source of information for certain areas of research. For example it says that only four hundred deaths occurred in WWI. It says that Louis Dienes was academically made a doctor at Budapest University. Dienes was an Army trained bacteriologist that single handedly identified the etiology of typhoid. He received his Honorary MD at Harvard. Typhoid killed more soldiers in WWI than all other weapons put together. The CIA  12.117.250.158 (talk) 12:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. Could you mention exactly which article or articles you mean? If a Wikipedia article claimed that there were 400 deaths in all of World War 1, that sounds like just a regular case of vandalism, probably by some bored school kid. (That is the main reason why Wikipedia should never be trusted on its own – every fact you read here should always be checked against the sources given in the article.) But if we don't know which articles are involved, it is impossible to comment on them. --bonadea contributions talk 12:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

My first article - still in draft

Hello room.

I have just joined Wikipedia and written my first article. I have a couple of questions:

1. The article shows as being in draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Northwood_Preparatory_School) - how do I move it to production?

2. I have tried to upload my photo to the article (Northwood Prep School Drone Shot.jpg) but when I do that I get the following error message "Something went wrong. We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons."

The page Wikipedia directs me to does not help. How do I resolve this error?

many thanks Hugh Hughchristensen (talk) 12:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hughchristensen, thanks for reaching out :) Regarding uploading the file, you might want to try Commons:Help desk - if you're done, add {{subst:submit}} to the top of your page - this will submit it for review Ed6767 (talk) 12:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit protect request

I made an edit request here: Talk:Babri_Masjid#Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2020 but got no response. Is there any mistake in the request?  Dr2Rao (talk) 13:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Dr2Rao, looking into it, I'll get back to you Ed6767 (talk) 13:07, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, you'll need to make a new edit request with the sources. That editor can't see your replies unless you ping them using the {{Re|Username}} template. Ed6767 (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Where & How I give credits if I add a new page on Wiki which is a translation of a Wiki page in English ??

I am thinking of translating parts of a Wikipedia page in English, into a new Hebrew page on Wikipedia. Where & How I give the credits to the source page of Wikipedia, on the translated page of Wikipedia ?? Transuser (talk) 13:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Transuser. Please see Translate us. --ColinFine (talk) 13:41, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Contributions page

When I click on my Contributions page, there are numbers such as -5 and +8. What do these numbers mean? Angrypiranha (talk) 14:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 14:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Feedback on distinguishing an article from an existing, similarly titled but different topic

I'm looking for feedback on improving

User:Mlepisto/Flats_boats to address the concerns that it is duplicate of Flat-bottomed_boat

. While it does sound similar, a flats boat is a category of boat that may have various designs including flat-bottoms, although most often flats boats are not flat bottomed but v-hull variants while flat-bottom boats are a boat built with a specific design of boat and does not ecompass any other variants in the category of flats boats. The difference may be somewhat similar to a "house" vs "flat roofed building" where a house is a category of building, and "flat roofed buildings" may be both houses or other buildings, but it doesn't invalidate that "house" is a topic of its own.

I created this article due to finding it on the list of

talk

) 15:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Visual Editor help

Resolved

 – OP directed to their Preferences. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Is visual editor of wiki a software that we need to download.? Is it a built in tool of Wiki? How to use it? Edit source brings the markup editor right? I m running Linux? Is there any good tutorial on how to install it? Also visual editor page doesn't have \=\= installation \=\= (escaping =)

\=\= usage \=\= (escaping =) If anyone can update them it will be good along with official link to download Machinexa (talk) 04:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC) Machinexa (talk) 04:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Machinexa: Welcome to the Teahouse. The VisualEditor is a beta feature, and can be found in your Special:Preferences' Editing tab. Just uncheck "Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is still in beta". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Machinexa (talk • contribs) 05:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Want to write biography of someone.

Kindly help me for adding the page of the owner of one of famous group of institutions in here at Punjab (India). I can share the details of it later when it is found that the article can be created. For now I just want to share the website of institutions for kind consideration of Wikipedia admins. It is www.innocenthearts.in.

Thanks for your support. Pankaj innocent (talk) 15:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Help:My first article Ed6767 (talk

) 15:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Is my article suitable for Wikipedia

Hey, I am a new user and I wrote an article

talk

) 16:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@

Get a smart idea: your Draft was submitted today. It would be unfair towards the creators of the 2,393 -1 other submissions awaiting review. Please be patient. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 16:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

How to address suspicious edits?

I have a couple concerns about edits on 1C Company and would like advice how to proceed. I added a notice to one editor's page but I think this requires more experienced eyes than mine.

• I am questioning whether "1C" should redirect to the company. Seems like there are many more common uses of it in the English language than a Russian software company. Ex: Currency or unit of measure in various applications. See 1C_(disambiguation)
• a number of editors have engaged in editing only or substantially this article or articles about the company's products, etc. See the following recent ones:
  • Special:Contributions/Smileirk
  • Special:Contributions/JuliyaLe
  • Special:Contributions/TriLingualUser
  • Special:Contributions/Lonkom7768
  • Special:Contributions/Vi_ule

 

talk

) 15:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:AN - I'll take a look too Ed6767 (talk

) 15:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion 1C ought to redirect to 1C (disambiguation). I've made it so. Bishonen | tålk 16:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC).

talk

) 16:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

How to contact an editor

It looks like editor Paphrag started the article titled Carolina dog. I want to know how to direct some questions to Paphrag. King.parker3 (talk) 16:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@

ping}} Paphrag to notify him of the discussion. Hillelfrei ^talk

16:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Is there a way to propose a particular format for a type of articles?

(Questions are in italics)

I’ve noticed that articles for smartphones and tablet computers (non-flagship devices, to be more specific) generally have issues in formatting and the type of information that is added. For example, many articles have the smartphone’s price, which violates

RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk

05:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, RedBuhlbBlueBlood991, and welcome to the Teahouse. This sounds like the kind of thing that a WikiProject, or a task force under a WikiProject, might do. The closest matches I can find are Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing/Computer hardware task force, Wikipedia:WikiProject Telecommunications, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Technology

Do understand that you cannot make a particular layout mor structure mandatory, but a project can recommend a standard structure, and in some cases such recommendations mare widely followed.

Just about anything on Wikipedia can be altered by consensus, and the way to do that is to start a discussion to determine what the consensus is, or form one. Whether a template is the best way to implement a recommended structure is a question that could be discussed. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 06:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I understand. The point is to have an easy way to ensure that MOS is followed and all the relevant information is added. Editors are free to use their own style as long as the article doesn’t lack any vital info or look like an advertisement.

RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk

06:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:COVID-19 and what they did with {{Current COVID-19 Project Consensus}}. The level of urgency may be different, but articles that fall under its scope generally obey the points listed in the consensus. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 06:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

​ Pinging correctly this time now that I'm looking at the actual signature. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:20, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

​ —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 06:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Okay, so I’m going to approach

RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk

06:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Pinging

RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk

12:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@

no one responds in the following days, you can probably start modifying articles that you see; if anyone reverts you point them in the direction of the proposal. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 18:01, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Blocked

FYI

 – Heading created by Tenryuu. 00:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

 – User has been told to use their new account instead of the blocked one. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:10, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

i have been blocked, please help LetsgomooN (talk) 00:44, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:EVASION and will look unfavourable on any unblock requests you have created. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 00:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

How to proceed without sources

Resolved

 – {{Update}} template and related articles/WikiProjects suggested to effect action. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I would appreciate input on my comment at the talk page for

talk

) 22:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Mlepisto, we follow the sources; when what we know contradicts the sources, we simply have to wait for the sources to catch up. Wikipedia is not news, so information is allowed to get outdated when there are no sources to keep an article up to date. If you are quite certain sources exist even though you don't have one, you could also tag the article with {{update}} so someone else may update it, or at least know the information may be outdated. Also, if/when you don't get an answer on an article's talk page, you can notify the wikiprojects that the article belongs to, or another related article that gets a lot of editor attention asking if anyone would take a look. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️

05:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

talk

) 13:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

plagiarism?

Hi I got a message from Zefr, warning me about plagiarism on an article I edited on "bee learning and communication"; the existing article was scientifically incorrect and deficient. Everything I added was written by me, and published in several papers I have written on the topic. Thus, I am not copying sentences from other people; everything was written by me and I have the right to use my sentences here and everywhere, right? I have no problems in disclosing my name to you so that you can verify my publication list, etc 

talk

) 16:22, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Drohnlein62: welcome to the Teahouse! Hope you're well. Wikipedia is licensed under a copyleft license, which means anyone can, with attribution, modify and reproduce anything in it even for commercial purposes. To comply with that license, we do need documentation that the copyright holder has licensed the text not to Wikipedia specifically but under a compatible copyleft license. Before you provide us any information: are you willing to do so? For more details, please feel free to review the relevant policy at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Hope that helped, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

My understanding is that for most science journals (the citations you authored or co-authored, added to Wikipedia, and are copying to Wikipedia verbatim) the copyright is transferred from the author(s) to the journal, with limited usage permissions to the authors. This means that copying your own writing to Wikipedia is a copyright violation. Secondly, Wikipedia discourages article editors from citing their own work. From

WP:COI: "Using material you have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies, including WP:SELFPUB, and is not excessive. Citations should be in the third person and should not place undue emphasis on your work. You will be permanently identified in the page history as the person who added the citation to your own work. When in doubt, defer to the community's opinion: propose the edit on the article's talk page and allow others to review it. However, adding numerous references to work published by yourself and none by other researchers is considered to be a form of spamming." (my bolding). David notMD (talk

) 18:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Username question

I am not sure where to post this so forgive me in advance. I noticed a user named Mbaeza123 making multiple edits on an article with almost a similar name: Mario Baeza. Is this allowed? - SUBWAY 18:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@

coi}} tag on the article and CommanderWaterford has left them a message on their talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 18:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Subwaymuncher: Like Tenryuu, I've also taken a look at the article, and intially started to clean it up after all the CV-like additions made by the subject of that article. However, I gave it up as a lost cause. So, I have just proposed on the article Talk page (Talk:Mario Baeza) that we restore the article to its 13 May version and move forward from there, asking the subject to make edit requests for specific changes they feel are necessary. There are simply too many things wrong with those new additions, and I don't believe we should waste our time cleaning it up, bit by bit, for them. You can express your support or disagreement with that proposal in my post there. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:22, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Images

How do you upload a photo on someone's page Scelo67 (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:NONFREE use criteria? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 19:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Scelo67 correctly this time around. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

American Idol color templates

Hi there, just want editors or anyone who can help will be fine. I've happen to come across the page and asking for a help request if anyone can change the color scheme format for the American Idol articles (the first 15 seasons). I'm doing this because that from what I observed:

• The colorful scheme has mostly been used for other competition and the contrast has been ideal for display. Using only monochrome colors lack contrast and the bold typeface should only be indicated for winners, not elimination. The yellow, light blue, light green and pink colors were the most common, respectively used for public save/top entries, judges save/bottom entries, special save and elimination.
• The colorful scheme was first used on the ABC-revival (
  SPOP Sing!
  (another reality singing competition held the same year as the AI season 16, in 2018)
• I've seen other articles like The Voice and The X Factor, and these displays of results and performance charts are acceptable.
• Maintain a good consistency on other articles, that is, the same format as all other articles in a series.

Earlier before I came to the page, I experimented the format on the

very first AI season

so that this will get attention to editors. I had faced a time constraint and unable to edit most big articles for the time being, however.

For other Idol articles outside US, it's about time to also see a change. Hope if anyone can come to a consensus. TVSGuy (talk) 06:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@TVSGuy: This is better asked on a project like Wikipedia:WikiProject Television, particularly at their Idols and Reality television task forces. Changes like that should be agreed upon via consensus. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Got it. Dunno where to ask, because i'm new here. TVSGuy (talk) 19:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@TVSGuy: No worries, we all had to start somewhere. Best of luck! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Can't display image

FYI

 – Heading created by Tenryuu. 16:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Next discussion : #How to put multiple of the same reference without displaying as a separate reference

can't display image I follow the

talk • contribs

)

I want to know that I have tried a lot of time but why my article could not pass exam in wikipedia. I mean to say that why my article can not publish in wikipedia. Please help me, I hop you will answer me to help my article for wikipedia. My article topic is 'See Latest'. Junnunews (talk) 11:03, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Junnunews - as the draft decline states, the article doesn't meet Wikipedia's Notability requirements. The sources you used simply show that the website in question exists, not that it is notable enough to have an article - Wikipedia isn't an encyclopedia of everything, and as such, we require sources that show other people noticing and talking about the website, not just alexa rankings, whois.com links and everybodywiki links.

The article itself is a stub - it consists of roughly two sentences - but this would be less of an issue if it had been sourced well and correctly. Unless you can find some good, independent sources to add to this draft submission - see Wikipedia's sourcing guide if you're having issues - it will continue to be declined. --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 11:08, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Sir, I want to know why I can't use only social media and my sites site for referral link Junnunews (talk) 11:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Junnunews: Because that would defeat the entire point of citing sources and anybody could post whatever they wanted here. You need to cite independent sources. Here is a step-by-step recipe for an article that won't be rejected or deleted, part of a larger guide I wrote covering issues new users face. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedians,

I am working on en:Christine Holgate article. I received a warning about using poor quality sources. Would you mind checking the article and giving me advice? If you notice something, I can reply to me and I will improve based on your suggestions. Thank you! Quinndo (talk) 11:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

As article exists, perhaps better to post comment on the Talk page of the article, to see if editors with interest and knowledge of the article respond. David notMD (talk) 14:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 14:24, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you @

CommanderWaterford:. The article's creator helped me fix those errors. Here is the notice (maybe not a warning) I received: "This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Take extra care to use high-quality sources. Material about living persons should not be added when the only sourcing is tabloid journalism; see more information on sources. Never use self-published sources about a living person unless written or published by the subject; see WP:BLPSPS and WP:BLPSELFPUB. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard. If you are connected to one of the subjects of this article and need help, see this page." Is it normal to receive this notice? Thank you! Quinndo (talk

) 14:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

You should treat this more like advice, it is definitely not a warning.

talk

) 15:31, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

That is an edit notice placed on most/all

WP:BLPs to inform editors of the page, not specifically you, about our BLP policy. It is not there because of any issues with the current article. Best, Vermont (talk

) 15:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you @

CommanderWaterford: and @Vermont:! As I checked some articles related to living people (eg. Elon Musk), I saw the "View" section. Is there a page on Wikipedia about requirements to follow when stating a person's point of view? Thank youQuinndo (talk

) 11:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Teahouse community. My article Draft:Goldmund has been declined. The moderator Lapablo stated it looks like advertising. Can you advise what part of the article looks like advertising? And could you help me draft it better? I hope the fact I was transparent about my connection to the company is not what is biasing the moderator's perception. I do believe our page is fairly eligible for referencing. For your information, our company is mentioned in this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compact_disc_player_manufacturers being the only company without a Wikipedia page, although we've been active for longer than other companies referenced here. Our company is also listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_phonograph_manufacturers . I regret I am bothering you on Teahouse but I am new to Wikipedia and couldn't figure out how to reply to the moderator directly. I hope this is the right way to proceed. Kind regards Cicivasc (talk) 09:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Being listed on other pages doesn't matter, any entries at "List of (whatever)" that don't have an independent source (if not an approved Wikipedia article) should not be there. My recommendations are:

• Stick to independent sources for now, don't cite sources connected to your company until after the article is approved.
• Stick to sources that are specifically and primarily about Goldmund, not just mentioning it in passing.
• If we don't have an article on an organization that gives an award, don't bother listing awards from that organization.
• Write in such a way that someone from a rival company, who for whatever reason has a psychotic hatred of it, must still agree to the basic statement of facts.

As for I hope the fact I was transparent about my connection to the company is not what is biasing the moderator's perception. -- No, it's probably the other way around: because you work for the company, you can't see what would be considered advertising. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Cicivasc: (formatting error, meant to ping in last edit). Ian.thomson (talk) 09:51, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Declaring a COI on your User page is not enough. You have to declare paid. See

WP:PAID. David notMD (talk

) 10:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Many of the refs (I deleted some) are press release related promotional. Awards table has no refs, and as Ian.t noted, meaningless unless the organizations doing the awards are Wikipedia articles. David notMD (talk) 12:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

hello, i have created a Wikipedia account 4 days ago and have done more than 300 edits and i still do not have access to features that registered users have. many thanks Trains2050 (talk) 08:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

You can't count. You created your enwiki account just over 3 days ago, not 4. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

ok,sorry. it fells like it had been a long time. regards Trains2050 (talk) 09:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

That's probably "Lockdown Lethargy" causing the apparent time-shift.  :-) Nick Moyes (talk) 10:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Or the user created the account less than 96 hours ago (ie. at night four days ago, and it's morning or afternoon at his place) -

RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk

12:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Inam-ur Rahman

I am trying to update information on my father's wikipedia page and every time i do it the content is deleted. is there a way i can update the information. I also would like to add a picture/ pictures but do not know how this can be done. would appreciate some help on this. Aamirinam (talk) 13:04, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:COIEDIT. Hillelfrei ^talk

13:23, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Assuming everything you added is true, Wikipedia still requires references to published content. Also, given personal connection - family - you should add a statement to that effect on your User page and/or on the Talk page of the article. This does not preclude you editing, but it does make clear to other editors your connection. As Hellelfrei alluded, the preferred method for you to effect changes is to propose those additions on the Talk page of the article so that a non-connected editor can either agree or decline. Problem here is that this is an obscure (meaning rarely visited) article, so it could be a long time, to forever, before another editor happened upon the Talk page. David notMD (talk) 13:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I made a page for the lolrus meme but it got deleted. It is unclean why the LOLrus page was deleted. Please tell me why.  Randall finsterwald (talk) 12:45, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

A7 was the deletion criterion on each occasion, and you also had explanations in the notifications on your user talk page. --David Biddulph (talk

) 13:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Next discussion : #can i know what is the issue in my article ?( Kandurata cricket club )

 Courtesy link: Kandurata Cricket Club

 Lochana Pabasara Matale (talk) 15:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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WP:NCRIC. You can click on NCRIC to see what the notability criteria are for cricket teams to get their own article on Wikipedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 15:37, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

NCRIC reads to me as if it applies to players, not clubs. @Lochana Pabasara Matale: I suggest you start a discussion on the article's talk page to get some clarity on the deletion reason. RudolfRed (talk) 15:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:AFD. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk

) 16:07, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Henry A. Wallace

So when did the truth become alien to Wiki? If truth is not a criteria for information found on Wiki, then what is? Would you have the info found be of a right or left wing nut nature full of politics and not truth?? Perhaps Wiki has become so jaded that it no longer functions as a source of information.... 71.223.176.166 (talk) 15:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I added a section heading to seperate this from other questions. RudolfRed (talk) 15:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) IP editor, what sources are you using and why haven't you cited them? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:45, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

IP user, please see

reliable sources. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib)

15:51, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

You added test to the article saying that Wallace was a left-wing fringe politician, and a socialist. That kind of claim should not be made without support from

reliable sources. If you think that should go,in the article, please provide a source that says this. The best place to discuss this would be on Talk:Henry A. Wallace, where you and Trains2050, and perhaps other editors could come to a consensus on what the article should say. But this kind of change is not made to a Wikipedia article without reference to a reliable source, or preferably more than one source. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs}

16:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I added an article on a professor of Mechatronics Engineering. I have submitted the draft for review but there has been no feedback. I want to know if the article is accepted or not. Leekeem8085 (talk) 16:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:TUTORIAL. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 16:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I have two questions: 1. Is there a way to add only "talk:" pages to your watchlist? 2. Do you get a notification if someone replies to a "new section" you made? Thanks, Adamilo (talk) 17:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello

WP:PING. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 17:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi I’m imsans Imsans (talk) 17:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Imsans do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC) @Imsans: DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Previous discussion : #why my article going to be deleted

 Lochana Pabasara Matale (talk) 17:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:RS to me. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 18:01, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

See also the answers above to the same question. RudolfRed (talk) 18:10, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Im trying to add a common name to a page. The person does not have his own active page. How do I add the information without it being linked to other people with acive pages? Thanks. Palisades1 (talk) 17:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Palisades1: if the person is notable, why not write their article? If not, don't link. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Palisades1. I guess you are talking about adding Patrick McGrath to Mountjoy Prison? (I never understand why people ask questions here without telling us the specifics). You added it as a link by putting it between double square brackets: if you added the name without the brackets, it would not be a link. But if you're going to add information to an article it is much much much better if you cite a reliable published source for the information you are adding. (Yes I know that none of the other people listed has a source cited; but the ones I've looked at at least say in the articles about them that they were executed at Mountjoy. It would be better if it was cited at the Mountjoy page as well. But since there isn't an article about the Patrick McGrath in question, a reader has no way of verifying the claim. --ColinFine (talk) 18:18, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Alas an editor has made an understandable error. I received a notice that my new article on Indian actress Indira Tiwari was connected by user Oronsay to Q6400277 which is Indian politician Indira Tiwari. They are not the same person. Please unconnect the actress article from the politician. Thank you. Amitomakebhalobasi (talk) 17:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

This is being addressed on the talk page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi. My name is Simon. I've created new article about my town. When this article published for all. Symon777 (talk) 19:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 19:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Add Review Button

FYI

 – Section merged with above. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi again. I cannot add Review button on my article please help me.! Symon777 (talk) 20:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Symon777 I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit the draft for review. 331dot (talk) 20:08, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Reasons

FYI

 – Section merged. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Why my draft page didn't approve Please give me more information about it! Thanks for helping!! Symon777 (talk) 20:17, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Symon777: You need to click on Submit your draft for review!. Please do not make a new section every time you have a question related to your draft. You may edit this section to add replies. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Wiki community! I'm an intern at a nonprofit and have been tasked with making Wikipedia pages about the nonprofit and people who work at it for easier access to information on them. The main source of my information is from the nonprofit's website itself, but when I submitted my article draft, it was declined due to a lack of reliable sources. I'm a little confused on what to do about this, any ideas? Samclarew (talk) 18:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Because you work for the organization, you need to follow

WP:PAID. You should not be writing about the org you are working for. RudolfRed (talk

) 18:45, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy ping: Samclarew —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Per

WP:N. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 19:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

These are articles, not pages. If you believe the organization is notable (Wikipedia's definition) and the people are separately notable, you can declare paid on your User page and attempt to create article(s). Those should be submitted to Articles for Creation. A reviewer will then accept, decline (allowing for subsequent improvement) or reject. David notMD (talk) 21:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Samclarew. I'm afraid that, like many people, your organisation has a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is, and you have been tasked with a job which is at best very very difficult, and may be impossible. Please show your superiors What Wikipedia is not, especially the section "Wikipedia is not a blog, web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site"; also point out to them that if we do end up with an article about your organisation, it will not belong to you, you will have no control over its contents, and it will not necessarily say what you would like it to say. --ColinFine (talk) 22:01, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I recently added a question to the Teahouse here, subject: "hi! and Amazon Alexa integration". It was still in existence (i.e. posted on the Teahouse page) as of last night. But now it is not here... is the Teahouse automatically cleared out after a set amount of times like two or three days? Or was it deleted here because I wrote the question up in one of the Village pump forums?

And, if it was deleted for whatever reason (automatically, because of the Village pump post, or ______)––why did I not receive an email or notification explaining what had happened to it? I was following the question in the Teahouse/the Teahouse page itself, but, still, no trace of the question on the Teahouse page; why is this?

Thanks, MitzvahCode MitzvahCode (talk) 17:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@MitzvahCode: Older discussions are automatically archived without any notification. Here's the archive with your question. Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1062 TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

MitzvahCode, your first guess is right. This is a page with high traffic, and threads with 48h "silence" are automatically archived, you can see yours at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1062. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello MitzvahCode. You posted your question at 16:47 UTC, 25 May 2020. Your question was not deleted but rather it was archived. Because the Teahouse is a very busy place, discussions are automatically archived after a few days. I could find your question easily by typing "Amazon Alexa" into the search box. It is in archive #1062. You can find an amazing range of information by typing key words into the archive search box. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Timtempleton and @Gråbergs Gråa Sång thank you for answer this question so quickly.

@Cullen328, while I now appreciate the difference between something being deleted and archived (yes, I'm clearly new to the community, hence questions in Teahouse)––shouldn't an automated archiving be worthy of a notification? I.e. shouldn't I have received a notification that my question was being archived? Such a notification would have easily prevented my confusion and concern. MitzvahCode (talk) 17:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)MitzvahCode

I clearly didn't tag y'all correctly, here's attempt #2: @Timtempleton, @Gråbergs Gråa Sång, and @Cullen328 please see my thanks and follow up question above. :)

Courtesy pings: Timtempleton, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, Cullen328

@MitzvahCode: For a ping to work the link to the user page needs to be added in the same edit as your signature. Since you forgot to sign the second attempt, that won't have worked either. (This is non-obvious, don't worry! It also happens if you incorrectly link, and then go back and edit to fix without re-adding your signature.) YorkshireLad  ✿  ^(talk) 17:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello again MitzvahCode. Although I am not a bot programmer, I suppose that a bot could be written (or the current archiving bot modified) so that a notification would be given to every editor who has a question or comment archived. However, that would flood the talk pages of active editors with repetitive notifications of something that is routine and to be expected. My initial guess is that opposition to that would be strong. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Doesn't Muninnbot notify the creator of a thread that it's been archived? I imagine that the OP will receive such a notification when the bot next runs, presumably this evening. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, as I suspected, the OP received the archive notification about 20 minutes ago. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: and @David Biddulph:, yes. I can confirm that I received a notification of the archival by Muninnbot at 3:02 pm my time. Seems strange that there'd be so much of a delay (at least some number of hours) between the archiving and the sending of the email. Is this more a function of the bot's programming or Wikipedia servers having more important tasks? Also, is OP, 'original poster'? Thanks, MitzvahCode (talk) 20:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)MitzvahCode

@MitzvahCode: Muninnbot is the message delivery bot while lowercasesigma bot III does the archiving. Yes, OP is "original poster". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

MitzvahCode Muninnbot, like many such scripts, runs once a day, so there could be up to 24 hours delay in notification, and in some cases, particularly where the thread header has been changed after it was first created, it cannot deterine who created the thread with assurance, and so does not notify anyone. As you will see if you follow the link to the bot's user page, then back to the original discussion of how the bot should work, it is a non-trivial problem to reliably determine who created each thread at the Teahouse after the threads have been archived. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I avoid my second sources being replaced with different secondary sources that either minimize support for my point, or otherwise only reflect some of what my source included?

• Is it always considered valid simply to replace a source due to journal's impact factor (for example) which often doesn't reflect the significance of the source to the topic, and may even be a far less cited source?
• What other reasons are valid for replacing one source with another (is there a WP policy somewhere?)
• How do I better support the inclusion of my sources, which may have specific quotes that would be removed by replacing with another source? This does appear to be way for editors with opposing views to give undue weight to their views, and could restrict almost all sources to those following a specific paradigm and POV under the spurius claim of "neutrality". Amousey (talk) 13:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Amousey: Is this a hypothetical question, or do you have a particular article in mind? If the latter, could you link to it please? Nick Moyes (talk) 15:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

{edit conflict}The short answer, @

the normal editing cycle that articles go through. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib)

15:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your replies User:Eggishorn and User:Nick Moyles. No particular article in mind. That explains things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amousey (talk • contribs) 23:08, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I fixed a problem with reference #36 on Synthetic phonics but I cannot remove the tag. John (talk) 18:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 18:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

..Sorry, my mistake, it was the Phonics page. John (talk) 21:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@

here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 23:23, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello! On this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Music_Hall under "References" SPMH and Society for the Preservation of Music Hall is cited. Our organization changed its name in September 2019. We are now Friends of Music Hall and our web address is https://friendsofmusichall.org.

Could I update the links in he reference section? Do you need copies of our IRS filing? I'm new to Wikipedia and don't want to mess up anything.

Many thanks for your help! Jgrueter (talk) 19:04, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 19:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. The old website is going away in a few months. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgrueter (talk • contribs) 20:37, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jgrueter: If the website is disappearing soon, those links will probably be archived to save the history behind them. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:37, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Update: I used IABot to preemptively rescue those links for when the inevitable happens. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Looking for the best way to avoid reverts, especially for how to include quotes for reference within a source. Options I've seen are:

• Follow with comment containing quote
• use the "quote=" field of the source, which seems to get ignored - also do I need to include a PD or other copyright template within it? All short quotes should be fair use at a minimum
• Parenthial referencing, but this isn't normally used on pages I would edit
• Is there some footnote thing that could include the quote, and if there are up to 5 quotes on the page won't that look messy?
• Somehow mark up the old info as superseded by the same source, but how?

Key point: This is for pages where the original source (website, or report, or study) is later changed - eg new version of same review, addendum to a report, rewrite of existing website. Discussing on talk page gets missed by some editors. I don't usually get straight reverts - just parts of content is removed. I usually edit topics that have strong opinions. Example addition. Amousey (talk) 13:03, 28 May 2020 (UTC) Amousey (talk) 13:03, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@

Talk:Chronic fatigue syndrome#Why was this removed?, you can try suggesting edits on the talk page (with your reliable sources) to gain consensus before making the edits. GoingBatty (talk

) 01:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

 – OP directed to the {{in use}} template. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, if I am editing a published article, what's the best way to avoid an edit conflict? I refer to the error that shows up when somebody edits the same article you are editing while you are still in edit mode. I read about a template you can add to the top of the article, but I can't recall any details and can't find anything about it. Thanks. NawJee (talk) 00:05, 28 May 2020 (UTC) NawJee (talk) 00:05, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@NawJee: Welcome back to the Teahouse. The best way to avoid edit conflicts is to make short edits on the article. It's preferable to do it in source and click "edit section" specifically. You can add the {{in use}} tag to the top of articles to let other editors know that a major edit is being done and as such to refrain from making edits as a courtesy. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:10, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Thanks! I hope you're doing well. The {{in use}} tag is what I was looking for. I was thinking of expanding some stubs listed down at the community portal over the next few weeks. Thought it might come in handy. Thank you. NawJee (talk) 00:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@NawJee: Best of luck! Just remember to remove it when you're finished editing. {{Under construction}} can be used when you're taking breaks. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: All right, perfect. Will do. Thank you. NawJee (talk) 14:00, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Help needed in arranging a re-review of an AfC that has been rejected. I am trying to get a particular article(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Honey_Bafna) created under the Category:Living people Category:Male actors from Kolkata. I do understand the notability criteria, and therefore I have included newspaper articles both in Bengali as well as English about the said actor. Since I am new to writing a brand new article on Wikipedia, I also have tried to look at the format being used for articles existing about other actors in the same category. However, I am unable to grasp the difference between the reference material on those articles which have been sufficient for them versus mine. For example: I have took reference point of articles like Debadrita Basu, Jeetu Kamal etc. The last comment states that the article looks to have a COI with Zee Bangla, which I do not.Please advise how to improve and re-route the article for a re-review.

Sohinimoitra84 (talk) 08:23, 28 May 2020 (UTC) Sohinimoitra84 (talk) 08:23, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@

Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk

) 01:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: the Treehouse you say? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Facepalm I think I'm going to actually build a treehouse. GoingBatty (talk) 01:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

When there is a source that lists a celebrities passing, but does not provide a date of death, do I include Category:Date of death missing? The Tony's have released their "In Memoriam" list but did not include date of deaths. Articles for this particular issue include Dolores Dorn, Meg Myles, Jane Lowry, etc. (Note: This is my first time messaging on here, so apologize if I am not doing it properly) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PamelaDenison (talk • contribs) 02:34, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@PamelaDenison: Welcome to the Teahouse! If you don't have a source for the year (e.g. The Tony's may have included 2019 and 2020 deaths in their list), please use Category:Year of death missing. If you have a source for the year but not the date, then Category:Date of death missing would be appropriate. GoingBatty (talk) 02:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi there, how do I create an article? I need to start one for "

@

WP:TOOSOON unless there is already significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Additionally, creating an article is not an easy task. If you are new, I suggest you start by working to improve existing articles, until you have some experience with Wikipedia. RudolfRed (talk

) 00:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@

talk page. —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 07:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Can someone help look over my draft? Any help will be beneficial. I really want to make this draft land in the main site. Also, none of the pictures I am uploading of the author are being accepted by wikipedia. Saad Haseeb (talk) 06:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Convenience link:

Draft:Kanza Javed.   Maproom (talk

) 08:29, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Saad Haseeb, this looks promising. I'll take a look during the day, if nobody beats me to it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:40, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Saad Haseeb: Are you trying to upload the pictures to Wikimedia Commons or here to enwiki? Are they photos which you took yourself, or are they other pictures which you have found elsewhere? If the latter, are they suitably licensed? Do you realise that pictures already published (on the internet or elsewhere) are liable to be copyrighted and therefore unsuitable for Wikipedia? What error message are you seeing? --David Biddulph (talk) 08:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Saad Haseeb With or without image, I think it has a fair shot at being accepted. Try to find a decent secondary source for the short story stuff, and if you can't, remove it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

 2601:703:4281:5960:FCAF:2BD7:BE4D:9895 (talk) 08:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Do you really have a question?

RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk

09:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I had written an article of Saath Charitable Trust but it got rejected saying that it was against the interest of the organisation even though i am an outsider to the organisation Swasti Salecha (talk) 13:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

neutral

and factual, and must not express positive or negative opinions about the topic, except in sourced quotations, and even that must be done carefully.

Phrases such as Being an Indian NGO, “SAATH”, has very well managed to keep its Indian Roots and Ethics pristine, intact, and original., Saath has managed to create one-stop centers to help the slum dwellers..., and Saath will be able to empower two lakh families with their lives, jobs, financial inclusion, community leadership, and training through its 30 years of experience... are not suitable for Wikipedia. The entire draft reads as it it were a brochure from the organization. that is simply not acceptable here. There are also some formatting issues, and a shortage of

reliable sources. But the promotio0nal tone is the worst problem, and a near total rewrite would be needed to fix this. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs}

14:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I would be happy to help with this. It's clearly a notable charity. I am however a total notice so unsure what's best for new articles (I have several in draft at the moment). User:swasti Salecha Amousey (talk) 10:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

need help adding bio profile picture and publishing neil patel - dentist to public wiki Themolarmechanic (talk) 06:40, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Helped at the help desk CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 07:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

You have content about Patel at your Sandbox and as a draft Draft:Neil 1st Draft. Neither have been submitted. If submitted, will be declined or rejected, as there are no references. Also, your declaration of COI is buried in the Sandbox. Transfer it to your User page. David notMD (talk) 11:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, how do I get Wiki editors to review a wiki page that has been created by the subject to "self promote". 81.98.8.169 (talk) 20:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Provide a link to it by putting it in [[double brackets like these]]. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) For a start, why not link to the article you are concerned about? We can take a look at it. (This is currently happening at the article on Mario Baeza, which was raised here a day or so ago). Nick Moyes (talk) 22:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

[Note also the recent attempts to remove the details about the company being liquidated] --81.98.8.169 (talk) 12:43, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I wrote a new article on my sandbox two days ago. I didn't get the procedure for submission right and I posted a question here yesterday. Gråbergs Gråa Sång was kind enough to respond to help me with the procedure which I followed. However, it seems I still haven't gotten it right, because there has been no acknowledgement of the submitted article. What do I do? Leekeem8085 (talk) 10:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 10:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Please can I have a detailed submission procedure to follow? Whenever I click on the submit your draft box, it prompts a sandbox template with an edit button. Do I copy and paste the draft in the template? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leekeem8085 (talk • contribs) 10:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

independent sources, but you can go ahead and submit and then look at finding better sources. --ColinFine (talk

) 12:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@

DarthFlappy: Personally I'd say no: the small dark green text merges into the black background and the red is illegible until I spend two seconds looking at it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 20:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, what about this?

DarthFlappy ^«Talk»

20:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

DarthFlappy, I would say that's better from a legibility standpoint. The text colour contrasts better with the background than it did on the previous version. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB

21:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@

DarthFlappy: I agree with Alex Noble's assessment. Much easier on the eyes. Thank you! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 22:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Yep - a lot better. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@

 Darth Flappy ^«Talk»

—[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank so much! I was looking for somthing like that.

 Darth Flappy ^«Talk»

14:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

For Al Schmid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Schmid) he has a picture that is from the USMC and is public domain here http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/schmid.htm. Can this picture be included on his page? If you don't know his story, it is well worth the quick read. Thank you in advance. SailedtheSeas (talk) 08:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, SailedtheSeas. Works of the US Federal Government are public domain under US copyright law, and may be uploaded to commons and used on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects. I have uploaded a copy of this picture, it can be found at File:Al_schmidt_1943.jpg, and added it to Al Schmid. Thank you very much for suggesting it. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, how can i find all of my user subpages? Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 17:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 18:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Lightbluerain: The bottom of user contributions has a "Subpages" link: Special:PrefixIndex/User:Lightbluerain/. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 17:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Does BlueMaxima's Flashpoint, a

Hello Childishbeat, on a cursory look, it seems promising but not quite sufficient. Best write a short draft with a few best sources and submit, or before that, ask around at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games, Wikipedia:WikiProject Internet or other relevant project (after waiting a reasonable amount of time for a better response here, of course). Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 17:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

 – OP added {{

userboxcoi}} to their user page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 16:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for taking the time to read this one. Most recently I wrote my first article the musician Takahiro Yoshikawa and was showered with everything from being paid for the article to having it deleted. So an obvious question came up: I invest in ecological and social startups and I am very invested in circular economy, some of that knowledge I'd like to share and it might also happen that I link to content such as statistics which we provided a lot to newspapers in the past (actually 4 of the ten largest newspapers in Italy use our material to write about circular economy). Should I get a paid tag on my profile? How do I describe that I have a COI when I write about ecological topics but not when I write about music? Please give me a broad and elaborated answer, I am happy to read it :) Fthobe (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I recently attempted to find the chart positions in Greece for The Now Now, and, after a bit of back and forth, I received an email from the chart company detailing the times when the album was on the charts. Would I then be allowed to add this into the article, and if so, how would I go about it? Thatoneweirdwikier | Say hi 18:43, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:OR to cite evidence that you claim to have seen but others would just have to take your word for it. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️

19:02, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Usedtobecool, what about using a screenshot? Thatoneweirdwikier | Say hi 19:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

No, you saying "this is an e-mail they sent me" doesn't work, assuming it's an interesting chart. I don't suppose you can find anything with the Wayback Machine? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:14, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thatoneweirdwikier, I would say, you are not a recognised reliable source; so screenshots you take would not be a reliable source either. Perhaps, if it were impossible to doctor images. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 20:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I changed a few wiki pages that were saying people were "openly gay" for I know that they are not open about it and it is just rumours but someone keeps changing it back and I feel this is an invasion of their privacy. What can I do about this? LucyWalshWhite (talk) 20:11, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@LucyWalshWhite: Welcome to the Teahouse. The point of contention right now is that there are sources provided (I have not checked the sources myself); it remains to be seen if the sources are reliable. Why do you think the sources are not acceptable for Wikipedia standards? You may have a point if the sources are from tabloids and there are no alternatives. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

You are not the only editor who is disagreeing with AmSam13, who has been cautioned for edit warring (repeat changes back and forth with other editors). The issue - which appears to be about reliability of sources - will continue to play out on the subjects' Talk pages. David notMD (talk) 20:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello

verifiability policy. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️

20:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Sir I received a message like this "Your submission at Articles for creation: Biodiversity Park, Visakhapatnam has been accepted AFC-Logo.svgBiodiversity Park, Visakhapatnam, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created" Soon after my submission article was accepted. But still even after 5 or 6 days this is not found in Google search . when this is available in Google search sir. please inform us. Bmantha Bmantha (talk) 21:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

A new article is

New page patrol system or 90 days have expired. --David Biddulph (talk

) 21:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Are there any limits, rations, or quotas on pages in my user space? as in pages like User:Irtapil/Urdu alphabet 2?

• is there a limit on number of pages or total storage size per user?
• Do they get deleted after a time limit?
• What stops people over-doing it and using that functionality to host a large amount of content?

And, on a related note, is there some way to find all of the pages in my userspace, if i forget what i have called one, or i just want a full list?

Irtapil (talk) 20:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

p.s. (I worry this bit sounds argumentative, but i'm just curious.) If storage space is not too tight for user pages to be an issue, why do articles on trivial topics get deleted (e.g. musicians who are only known in their home town)? i always thought that was about storage space and hosting, since wikipedia runs on donations? but now i'm thinking i guessed wrong? and i'm not sure why that happens? Irtapil (talk) 21:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Irtapil (talk) 20:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

Our user page policy. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs}

21:02, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

If you edit articles a lot, no one will pay attention to how much you have going on in your userspace; if your mainspace edit is minuscule compared to what you put in your userspace, people will start questioning your motives, and the pages will get deleted, and you will most likely get blocked too (of course I don't mean you by you.) At the bottom of your contributions page, is a link that reads "subpages".

The reason we are selective is because we are an encyclopedia. We are creating a knowledge-base here; so any article we add has to make a reasonable claim that it adds, if tiny a bit, to human knowledge, now and, say a hundred or thousand years from now. Basically, it has to be worth knowing. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 21:22, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Of course there are people who think everything is worth keeping; those will always vote Keep at an AFD or start a website which will immediately capture all articles and drafts that are created here before they can get deleted even if they get speedily deleted here. Others have a very high bar. Many people dislike how so many youtubers or footballers get Wikipedia articles and want to make policies stricter so we only cover truly worthy topics, like mathematics and philosophy and Nobel laureates. You get the idea; what we have is a compromise. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 21:33, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Irtapil, The list of my user subpages is at Special:PrefixIndex/User:DESiegel. Yours can be found at Special:PrefixIndex/User:Irtapil. Does that help a bit? DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:24, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Importance is WikiProject-specific; class refers to article quality. Classes are arbitrarily assigned by editors in good faith (except for A, Good Article, and Featured Article). Assessments can be requested. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

How do articles receive ratings? For example, the talk page for Clicker Heroes says it’s “Start-Class” and “Low-importance”, whatever that means. Can someone explain? Please help. Stay safe and well, --Total Eclipse 2017 ^{(talk | contribs)} 21:14, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello

WP:FA. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️

21:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello, Total Eclipse 2017 and welcome to the Teahouse. Ratings of Start, Stub, Class-C, and class-B may be assigned by any editor who in good faith has reviewed the article and thinks the rating appropriate. There is no formal process. I wouldn't pay to much attention to any of those ratings. There is a description of the criteria at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Assessment#Quality_scale

The Class-A, Good Article, and Featured article ratings all have formal processes to go through, and IMO they mean something. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@DESiegel: @Usedtobecool: Thanks for the help! This was very informative to me. Stay safe and well, --Total Eclipse 2017 ^{(talk | contribs)} 22:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@DESiegel: @Usedtobecool: Actually, I have another question. Is there some way to ask people to review an article’s rating, or do they just do it? Stay safe and well, --Total Eclipse 2017 ^{(talk | contribs)} 22:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Total Eclipse 2017, there usually is. At Wikipedia:WikiProject Nepal/Assessment, there is a section where you can list your article to request reassessment. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Assessment, on the other hand, says to set a parameter in the WikiProject template on the article's talk page. See FAQ there. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 22:22, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Usedtobecool: Thank you! Stay safe and well, --Total Eclipse 2017 ^{(talk | contribs)} 22:24, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Can anyone take action on this article? The article is

@

WP:STUB that needs expanding. I encourage you to be bold, find some sources, and expand it. RudolfRed (talk

) 23:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps Rich Farmbrough forgot about it after creating it. -- Hoary (talk) 00:12, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I tagged it as an unsourced biography of a living person. So sad. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

;,,,( All the best: Rich Farmbrough 23:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC).

sir..we are writing an article about one voluntary organization. For reference purpose we are posting the pictures of the news paper articles which are very old 15 years back or not having URI number.some articles are in local languages about the organisation only. Those news paper articles are related to and fully about the voluntary organisation. We are taking a photograph of the article of that particular news paper , we are mentioning it from where it is published and we are uploading it on our behalf our name. But they are rejected by the wikipedia reviewers I mean wekipedia commons wizaard saying copy rights problem.. please clarify how we have to upload such article photographs Bmantha Bmantha (talk) 21:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Bmantha, The short answer is that you cannot. 15 years old does not remotely qualify as old. If you contact the newspaper and get them to provide a release, the photo can be used if the release is registered with us. Copyright laws vary by country, and you did not specify where this is, but I am certain that there is no location where 15 years is old enough to be public domain. S Philbrick(Talk) 21:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

List_of_countries'_copyright_lengths S Philbrick(Talk)

21:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Wikipedia guidelines on conflict of interest editing yet? Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️

21:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

(

Wikipedia's criteria

for a fair use claim (and such photos rarely will), they cannot be used on Wikipedia unless the newspaper puts them under a free license, which is highly unlikely.

By the way, who is "we"? Any Wikipedia account should be used by one person only, never shared. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Bmantha: I have left some detailed advice on your talk page on what you need to do to the article on Biodiversity Park, Visakhapatnam to make it more acceptable as an encyclopaedia page. Please don't try to add any more photos - there are far too many in it already, and the article needs cutting down, not expanding! I have also asked you to follow our guidance on declaring any conflict of interest or 'Paid' editing, which I think we would all appreciate. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Page Deleted why??

 Rupom 00:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding

talk • contribs

)

Hello, can you explain further to what was deleted? Then the Teahouse Hosts could give you better insights.

talk

) 00:18, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

What OP is referring to is this removal of an attempted draft from a page where you don't post drafts.

@Official.Rupom: Can you please summarize the instructions at the top of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Help page for us? Ian.thomson (talk) 00:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Need help adding information box to page

Next discussion : #How to respond to help answer

 Courtesy link: User:TiBUchon/sandbox

Hi,

I am new here and have created my first Wiki page. I need some help in how to add the information box to the right side of the page. I would appreciate any input on how to do this.

Thank you (smile)TiBUchon (talk) 00:45, 30 May 2020 (UTC) TiBUchon (talk) 00:45, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

notability

. Wikipedia is not for merely telling about something; articles should only summarize what independent sources state about the subject.

If you are associated with this subject, you should review

paid editing

for disclosures you could be required to make.

I don't say these things to discourage you(though I probably did, and I apologize), only to help you. Successfully writing a new article is the absolute hardest thing to do on Wikipedia, and it takes much effort and practice. 331dot (talk) 00:50, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

greetings: WE WOULD LIKE TO EDIT A TEXT WITH MISINFORMATION AND AN INFRINGEMENT ON PRIVACY - HOWEVER, THE INITIAL WRITER PUTS THE MISINFORMATION AND INFRINGEMENT ON PRIVACY BACK ONLINE EACH TIME WE PUBLISH AN EDITD VERSION WITH SOME ADDITIONS AS WELL. PLEASE ADVISE THANKS

 Isthar Dac (talk) 01:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: article in question is Gangchen Tulku Rinpoche. Please do not type in all capital letters as that is akin to shouting = rude. David notMD (talk) 01:45, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

neutral point of view, and the proper place to develop consensus and neutral content is Talk:Gangchen Tulku Rinpoche. I understand that this man died of COVID-19. My condolences to his followers. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

02:21, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Requesting support

 Deferred to Wikipedia:WikiProject Arab world#Members

 – —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:35, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi every one,

Well,Now I created a page Qisas (disambiguation) although I am not expert in Arabic to English transliteration. I tried to contact few Arabic knowing editors but they were not aware kind of disambiguation problems can arise when single spelling is used for differently meaning words.

So can some help out on bringing in more Arabic to English transliteration issues and disambiguation issues knowing editors on board

and also help needed in fact checking of the page content since I made it with bit of guess work some one needs to look in to it for accuracy.

Thanks for tea, warm regards and greetings

Bookku (talk) 11:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 15:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks, It's nice of you. Have a good day and greetings Bookku (talk) 02:57, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

why an old page which was active for some years in subject to deletion?

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Our notability standards don't have a Grandfather clause. Mistakes that have gone unnoticed do not become correct with time. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&action=edit&section=110

But the sources are from IMDB, festivals around the world and newspapers, what else can be more reliable source that festivals and newspapers and IMDB?!Joyab (talk) 00:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)JOYAB

@Joyab: IMDb hasn't been considered reliable for a while due to it using user-generated content. No comment on festivals. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Joyab: See Wikipedia:Citing IMDb for more information. GoingBatty (talk) 03:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Rejection: British Nuclear Medicine Society

Draft:British Nuclear Medicine Society

Hi, An article that I created was rejected for the second time, and the reason provided was "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies."

The first time it was rejected, I was asked to add more independent references to show visibility. I did. I think it is written from a neutral point of view and not from an advertising point of view as I am not linked to this organisation. Also, I think it also cites numerous (around 10 sources + external links - not enough?) independent, reliable, published sources; therefore, it is not clear why it has been rejected? What am I missing? My article is very similar to this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Association_of_Nuclear_Medicine

Any suggestions? Thanks Earthianyogi (talk) 20:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC) Earthianyogi (talk) 20:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Earthianyogi: While I can see how it is neutrally worded, I can see how the reviewer took it as promotional as well. The lead section:

The British Nuclear Medicine Society (BNMS) is the only independent forum devoted to all aspects of Nuclear Medicine. The aim of the Society is the advancement of science and public education in Nuclear Medicine that would benefit patients. It currently has over 600 members.

uses the word "only", which is generally an intensifier used to emphasise that the product (in ad copy) is essential. The second sentence is worded like a mission statement one would find on the organisation's page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Earthianyogi and welcome to the Teahouse. Such text as }The British Nuclear Medicine Society (BNMS) is the only independent forum devoted to all aspects of Nuclear Medicine. The aim of the Society is the advancement of science and public education in Nuclear Medicine that would benefit patients. It currently has over 600 members. sounds rather promotional to me, particularly "only independent forum" and the sentence about the "aim" which should probably be marked as a quote from a Society publication, not given in Wikipedia's voice. We don't proclaim what a group's motives are, we can indicate what a group says its motives are, and what others say about it. The phrase which can be purchased from Amazon website or Springer website should go, that is a clear advertisement. Just give the ISBN and people can find it for themselves if they so choose. Also, everything in the draft seems to be from the PoV of the society, nothing about how others have seen it or reacted to it, good or bad.

Also, when you cite a book-length work, please provide a page number (or numbers if more than 1 page applises). Ideally provide a page number any time you cite a paginated work. See my recent edit to the draft. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh, Earthianyogi, note the draft has bene declined, not rejected. This is a subtle but important difference. "Declined" means "This isn't ready yet, here is what needs to be changed, please try again". "Rejected" means "This wiull never be a Wikipedia article, stop wasting your time and ours." DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:43, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

DESiegel, & Tenryuu Thank you all. The reviewer also suggested that "the section 'Awards and Fellowships' has no sources and is just promotional". How do I get around this problem? _ I have added a link, but not sure if it will be enough?

Also, something very interesting happened - someone just copied this content and used it on another website https://en.everybodywiki.com/British_Nuclear_Medicine_Society. The website says " This page was last edited on 25 May 2020, at 08:01." This is just unbelievable. Cheers Earthianyogi (talk) 21:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Earthianyogi you get around that by providing independent sources that discuss these awards. However, if the rest of the text is more clearly neutral, and the list of awards is at least sourced to the society's own site, and is fairly short, it might pass. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

All Wikipedia text, including drafts is released under the

CC-BY-SA license, and anyone in the world may use or modify and use any such text for any purpose at all, provided only that proper credit is given. People will copy things from Wikipedia without warning or notice. If you can't accept that, don't post here. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs}

21:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

DESiegel, & Tenryuu Yes, I got it, thanks. Would a senior editor be kind enough to review by updates in accordance with the reviewer's comments? Cheers Earthianyogi (talk) 21:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, This article has been declined three times now, and I am not sure why it does not fulfil the notability requirements. I have read this wiki link: Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:British_Nuclear_Medicine_Society . However, I am not sure why the following list is not enough? What more an organisation needs to have enough notability?

References

JOURNAL PUBLICATIONS/CONFERENCE POSTERS: 1. Competencies and training of radiographers and technologists for PET/MR imaging - a study from the UK MR-PET network" European Journal of Hybrid Imaging. 4 (1): 1. doi:10.1186/s41824-019-0070-6. ISSN2510-3636. (2020). 2. Clinical trials in molecular radiotherapy—Tribulations and Triumphs Report of the NCRI CTRad meeting held at the Lift Islington, 8 June 2018 : https://www.birpublications.org/doi/abs/10.1259/bjr.20190117?journalCode=bjr 3. Evaluation of Radiopharmaceutical Adverse Reaction Reports to the British Nuclear Medicine Society from 2007 to 2016: http://jnm.snmjournals.org/content/58/12/2010.short 4. Quality assurance in myocardial perfusion tomography: a collaborative BNCS/BNMS audit programme. British Nuclear Cardiology Society/British nuclear Medicine Society. https://europepmc.org/article/med/10581589 5. A survey of nuclear cardiological practice in Great Britain https://heart.bmj.com/content/heartjnl/67/3/273.full.pdf 6. 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Thank you for your help. Earthianyogi (talk) 01:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:SIGCOV as the reason for declining the draft. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 04:55, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Source credit

I am attempting to write a book about my family during WWII. I use a lot of information that I read on Wikipedia. Do I have to give source credit to this information. If so, how do I do it? Thanks 2601:205:8300:D6B0:F031:D97F:911C:F94B (talk) 04:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. If you are taking information from Wikipedia, yes, you must attribute your information to Wikipedia. The full page for doing so is here at

WP:CITEWIKI. However, like the page suggests, it's better to go through the relevant articles, find the sources used, and cite those sources instead. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 04:50, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello 2601:20..., if you want to copy the text from one or more Wikipedia articles into a work you intend to publish, please consider the page,

WP:COPYRIGHT, especially the section Reusers' rights and obligations.

If you only intend to cite Wikipedia for information you've included in your own words, it is more a question about writing books than about Wikipedia. You don't have to cite Wikipedia or any other source for that matter except when you quote or paraphrase a source, but the Wikipedia article on Citation is worth a read too. Rest of what I would add is on the page that Tenryuu linked. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️

05:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Issues with signature

Resolved

 – "Treat the above as wiki markup" in Preferences was checked. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:19, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi i am having issues signing my name, I used the fore dashes but it comes out as BigRed606 04:32, 30 May 2020 (UTC) And does not give a link to my page. BigRed606 04:47, 30 May 2020

@BigRed606: To clarify, you used ~~~~, right? Did you perhaps check the box in Special:Preferences that says "Treat the above as wiki markup" in the User profile section? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes it check but it still does not link it to my page. And yes I did do ~~~~ BigRed606 05:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Can I fixed it I had it checked instead of not being checked thanks for the help. BigRed606 (talk) 05:16, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@BigRed606: Glad to hear your problem has been resolved. That checkbox is there for people to make small tweaks to their signature (like me). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:19, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

New article submitted

 Courtesy link: Draft:Anup Kumar Prashar

Hi, Can someone help me edit my current article on wikipedia. It is due for approval. Himanshuaroraa (talk) 05:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Himanshuaroraa: Your draft is currently in the review backlog. If there are any interested editors they will contribute. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Have you had any recent interactions with the Wikipedia editor Itsanupkumar?--Quisqualis (talk) 08:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:The Goodwin Family

 Courtesy link: Draft:The Goodwin Family

Hello wikipedians, ive only been a wikipedia user for less than 3 months and just have a question about the Article that i have submitted but was rejected due to the following reasons:

The Article submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and WP is not the place for memorials.

The Article i have created was about the

WP:NOTMEMORIAL shortcut page when i was visiting the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not article on WP. I searched deeper to the true reason why my article was rejected. Then i looked up the 5 pillars of Wikipedia, in which i tried to find the reason why my article submission was contrary to the pourpose of Wikipedia. I didnt use my opinions on the page and i certainly did not use the Family's demise to memorialize or disrespect them in any possible way, although i did mention that there was a location in which theres a memorial sight of the family but ive also used reliable sources to prove that there is a certain location in which there was a memorial sight for the family, and again, i did not use my opinions as the primary data. I repeat, i did not use the familys death to share my original thoughts, and point of view, and did not use my opinions and feelings as the original statement. Sorry if i was wrong on my objection as these articles are my first ones that i have ever created, but please feel free to correct me if you find the true error. The Goodwin Family are truly one of the famous families of the Titanic as they were the passengers that boarded there. Benedict2005 (talk

) 09:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Being on the Titanic does not be itself make people notable. If you look at

The Unknown Child. The Goodwin family is described, with photograph, there. David notMD (talk

) 09:57, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Can I retrieve the data of my speedy deleted article?

I want to retrieve the data of my speedy deleted article

talk

) 09:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse,

this notability guideline for companies and organisations to get a sense of what is and is not likely to be accepted into Wikipedia. Nick Moyes (talk

) 10:36, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Expanding Article

Blocked

 – OP blocked for block evasion and disruptive editing. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:12, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

-Contents deleted by adminstrator- Aryashahnaughty6p (talk) 12:11, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

This editor has been adding this self-infobox to Wikipedia Reference Desks, own User page, own Talk page, here at Teahouse, elsewhere. Warned on Talk page. David notMD (talk) 12:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)See the deleted post at the Language reference desk. The article "Arya Shah" cannot be created because it has been salted (stated to be because the subject is not notable). 80.44.94.173 (talk) 12:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I have wrapped the post in <nowiki> and <pre> tags so the infobox doesn’t appear here. Brianjd (talk) 12:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

And I have deleted their user page and have removed their demo Infobox here. No need for a minor to post their details. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

And this minor's disruptive editing has now caused them to be blocked per

WP:NOTHERE— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick Moyes (talk • contribs

)

Turns out it was block evasion this whole time, looks like some sort of LTA from other projects. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes- I've just been looking back through their various personae and came to the same conclusion. Different user info each time, but will keep an eye out for any user page entries for 'Aryashah' or 'Arya shah' in future. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Aryashahnaught, User:Aryashahnaughty, User:Aryashahnaughtyyyy are 3 others who have been globally blocked, as has User:Kbshah6p. Obviously a serial offender. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:17, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of Yakahiro Toshikawa

Hey, I tried to create a new article in The English name space about a Japanese pianist ( Takahiro Yoshikawa) residing in Italy after I saw a performance. As the Japanese article was a stub, I figured I could start with a well documented English article and then translate it into Italian and leave a comment in the Japanese namespace for somebody to rescue the local version.

So, given that my first new article has brought me a fair share of trouble (accusations of COI, automatic deletion, manual PFD, let’s say a very mixed experience), I tried to be a good citizen and beefed it up with references and everything and I feel it’s a good article now.

Wikipedia deletion process states: If you disagree: Any editor who disagrees with a proposed deletion can simply remove the tag. Even after the page is deleted, any editor can have the page restored by any administrator simply by asking. In both cases, the editor is encouraged to fix the perceived problem with the page. It is also desirable to add {{old prod}}, or {{old prod full}} which can display more details, at the top of the article's talk page (or beneath WikiProject banners).

So can I now delete the deletion tag? I hear very mixed voices about that ranging from no (only admins can) to yes (be bold) including the midway alley (don’t intervene with the discussion process. It’s a little bit confusing!!! What should I do? }} Fthobe (talk) 15:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:DEPRODded by simply removing the {{proposed deletion}} template from the article. Once that’s done (even if done in bad faith), the proposed deletion is considered contentious and the article cannot be prodded again. At this point, anyone who still feels the article should be deleted will need to nominate it for deletion so that the community can discuss whether it should be deleted. That’s where things are at with respect to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Takahiro Yoshikawa and it will be the consensus established via that discussion which will determine what to do. So, no you shouldn’t remove the deletion template from the article. It will be removed by the administrator or editor you closes the discussion. — Marchjuly (talk

) 15:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

You are reading the wrong part of Wikipedia:Deletion policy. This isn't a "Proposed deletion" (prod); it is a "Deletion discussion" (AFD). It clearly states in the notice on the article: "... this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed." --David Biddulph (talk) 15:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Has my draft been improved enough?

Draft:Hermione Farthingale

My draft was declined because I had stated she was both a dancer and an actress. However, reflecting on that I have removed “actress” because 1) she is a qualified ballet dancer 2) she has starred in quite a few few films and videos, but in a few of them she was not credited.

Although she is most known for being David Bowie’s girlfriend in the late 1960s, she also influenced a few of his songs, she was in a band (with Bowie), she has had independent notability by starring in a few films in her own right and not just Bowie’s music videos. She is a trained ballet dancer and was a member of Lindsay Kemp’s theatre. Also, she is cited on the British Theatre Institute (BFI) website for her roles in films. A quick Google search shows that she’s clearly more notable than just simply one of Bowie’s exes and the French Wikipedia has an article about her.

I have used a wide variety of sources. Can anyone check out my draft and tell me if it’s acceptable to resubmit now? EsotericJoe (talk) 14:43, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

notability is not inherited. Lovers, siblings, parents, etc. of famous people are not automatically notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. In this case, I note that every single one of the sources is in the context of David Bowie. Still, you have improved the article since your last submission, so you could submit it again. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓

15:44, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@CaptainEek: Granted that the sources cited to her involvement with Bowie’s music videos, the band he and she were involved in for a short while are predominantly also referring to Bowie, but that is almost impossible to avoid since he was also the main focus (his music videos, his songs, and she was once upon a time his girlfriend). But, I have also cited sources with regards to her career in films.--EsotericJoe (talk) 16:46, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Question about requesting a change to an article image

Hi, please forgive me but this is the first time I'm using Wikpedia in this way, and it can get quite confusing & complicated so again please forgive me for any errors or doing something wrong

My question is in regards to the Wikipedia Article about King Henry VII of England - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VII_of_England

Several years ago, in the talk section, I suggested changing the main image of King Henry the VII to, what I believe, to be a much better image, more specially this one - Better quality picture

Now I did get a reply from someone, giving their opinion on the suggested change, but they preferred the image that's currently being used, and it's kinda been left at that with no further editor replies

So my question is, what can I do to get more/request more opinions on this suggested change? Since I really do believe the suggested new image is, by far, a superior one than the current image being used & I'd like to get a 3rd, maybe 4th opinion on the matter. Though if multiple editors do agree the current image is better, then I will happily accept the decision not to replace the image.

Again, I apologise for the lack of knowledge of how things work on here, hence this question I am asking!

Thanks 2A02:C7F:40D6:400:E569:C2C9:6C5D:121F (talk) 00:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. I see that this image is found on a website like SellingAntiques, which means it is very likely copyrighted. Do you know if it would stand up to Wikipedia's

WP:NONFREE criteria? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 00:40, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply.

My father actually discovered & owns that picture, and is more than happy to allow Wikipedia free use of the image indefinitely, should it be decided that the image in the should be replaced.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:40D6:400:E569:C2C9:6C5D:121F (talk) 00:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Determining which painting of a man who lived 500 years ago is "far superior" is a highly subjective exercise. I see that you are commenting at

Request for comment which will draw in uninvolved editors. You should upload the painting you like to Wikimedia Commons

so that the actual image instead of a link can be evaluated side by side with the current painting.

Here are factors that lead me to believe that the current painting is preferable: Most important, the current painting was created when Henry VII was alive, and the king almost certainly sat for the portrait. The painting by Holbein the Younger must have been painted long after the death of the king who died in 1509 when the painter was a child, and he did not come to England until 1526. So, the likeness of the painting now in the article is probably superior. Also, the current painting focuses tightly on the king's face, while the Holbein painting shows 3/4 of his body. Portrait style photos or paintings emphasizing the face are best for biographies, in my opinion. Other opinions may vary. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

 2A02:A03F:651C:B100:3CB1:DAED:A956:ECF9 (talk) 01:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

IP editor, you should know that allowing Wikipedia use of the image isn't enough; images used here can be taken and used on other sites. Commons:Email templates has an interactive release generator that can guide you should you wish to release the image to the Wikimedia foundation. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

IP editor, thanks for making your

WP:COI clear. I have replied again at the article talk. Frankly this is all nonsense. User:Cullen328, it is wildly premature to suggest an RFC. Holbein's original was destroyed in a fire in the 1680's, as is well known - this is a copy of that, probably later still. Johnbod (talk

) 02:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for agreeing with me that the current image is better, Johnbod, and educating me about the provenance of the proposed replacement. I also appreciate you highlighting the conflict of interest. As for the idea of an RFC, that is the type of process that new editors who read Teahouse posts may find useful. I was not recommending it as much as making it known. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:43, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for all your replies, I appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

So to Wikipedia standards, the suggested image is not a better candidate that the current main image, from the size to style, and I accept this judgement.

However, would Wikipedia editors consider including the image somewhere further down in the article as a secondary image?

The painting is 15th century, in the Studio of Hans Holbein.

We also believe there's a chance/possibility that this painting is a surviving part of the original Tudor mural that was destroyed in a fire, hence one side of the painting being completely black & repainted, and we're currently making preparations & arrangements to have the painting fully investigated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:40D6:400:3843:B54A:9B21:1D7B (talk) 12:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Assuming the painting is as old as it seems, then copyright is not an issue. You can upload images of the picture to commons.wikimedia.org.

It's clear that this is a painting of much interest to both the art world and to historians, I look forward to seeing images of the painting before and after cleaning and/or restoration. Any tomography etc. would also be potentially useful. If this transpires to be part of the Holbein work, unlikely as that may seem, it might very well be worth creating an article about. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC).

changing my global username

without much thought i have created account on meta w/username: vishnuvardhan52452. however, i would like to rename my username. should i deactivate on meta or create rename my existing username to : vishnuvardhan 52452. please advice.

talk

) 04:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

talk

) 10:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

You should be able to simply use the account you want to preserve everywhere. It's a good idea to stop using the discarded one altogether though, as people sometimes get a little antsy about these things. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC).

DMY or MDY?

Resolved

 – By convention, first format used is kept per

MOS:DATERETAIN in general circumstances. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 05:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

On Journey to the Savage Planet: The developer is from Canada which uses MDY, but the publisher is from Italy which uses DMY. Anyone know which prevails in this case? SK2242 (talk) 12:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi

MOS:DATERETAIN is a good thing to follow. You can always start a discussion about this at Talk:Journey to the Savage Planet to see what others think and see if there's a consensus to retain or change the existing format. You can even ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games to see if the same thing has come up before with respect to other video games. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 12:41, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. SK2242 (talk) 14:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Note that Canada is treated as using both MDY and DMY. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:28, 30 May 2020 (UTC).

Delete Account

Hello I wanted to add some content about my historic home on the historic registry for Seattle and include some pictures, so I created an account. I am in way over my head! I would still like to submit some content or images, but I really want to delete my account for JeffreyDesigns. I can't figure out how to do that. Can you help please? Thank you Jeffrey JeffreyDesigns (talk) 19:02, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:RENAME. The latter object is global, so your username would change in projects like WikiBooks and Wikiquotes as well. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 19:08, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Inclusion of life span (other than the subject's) in a biography

Resolved

 – Birth/death years not provided unless contextually relevant. (

MOS:BIRTHDATE) —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 19:11, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia have a policy regarding whether to include in a biography the birth and death years of people other than the subject of the article? An example is "Her English father, Reginald Michael Bloxam Hallward (known as Michael Hallward; 1889-1982) was an architect and author; her Scottish mother, Jean (or Jeanne) McDougall, who used the stage name Jean Grahame (1890-1984), was a British stage actress and acting teacher.[3] The couple had an older daughter, Joy Hallward (1911–2003), ..." (from Gloria Grahame#Early life).

I know that we are not supposed to post a question in more than one place, but this one has had no response since I posted it in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography on May 1. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@

MOS:BIRTHDATE states "birth and death details are not included after a name except in a case of special contextual relevance". It's perfectly find to post the same question somewhere else if you haven't received a response in weeks. GoingBatty (talk

) 03:56, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

GoingBatty, Thanks for pointing me to that part of the Manual of Style. I'm glad to have a point of reference, and I appreciate your help. Eddie Blick (talk) 15:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

PhD thesis citation error

Resolved

 – OP pointed to appropriate help page to resolve group refs without references. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, An editor just left a note the page "PET for bone imaging" that differential equations need citations. I added my PhD thesis; however, the page shows an error in red colour as "Cite error: There are <ref group=PhD Thesis> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a

template (see the help page)."

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Earthianyogi (talk) 17:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC) Earthianyogi (talk) 17:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

In that error message, the words "help page" are in blue, indicating that they are a

wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error group refs without references. --David Biddulph (talk

) 17:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved. Thanks, David. Earthianyogi (talk) 17:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:SELFCITE has a guideline on adding your own work as citations. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️

17:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

... and another editor has removed the "reference", as an unpublished work does not meet the requirement for verifiability. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Usedtobecool and :David Biddulph, thanks to both of you. I cited my thesis because another editor asked for citation for the solution to the differential equations, and I thought my thesis would be the most accessible reference. However, I am not aware of a paper where they may have solved it as it is quite basic. I leave to others to find a reference and cite here if they think it needs one. My thesis was published in 5 parts as papers, but not as a whole book. I think it does not qualify as a reference. So citing my thesis was a mistake. Thanks for directing me in the right direction. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earthianyogi (talk • contribs) 20:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Note Solutions to DEs outside maths articles probably don't need cites, since they should be checkable by anyone. On the flip side it is quite right that theses are generally best avoided.

WP:MEDRS places more onerous requirements on citations, though they apply in a specific way. All the best: Rich Farmbrough

17:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC).

Rich Farmbrough, thank you. Earthianyogi (talk) 20:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Why page Created was deleted

Why the page I created was deleted Ashiskhemka007 (talk) 16:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ashiskhemka007: The reason User:Ashiskhemka007 was deleted is given on your talk page in the message that you responded to: the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:08, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I thought it was one type of encyclopedia and we can give the details what is the use if it is chargeable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashiskhemka007 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Ashiskhemka007. I'm afraid I have no idea what you are trying to say. --ColinFine (talk) 21:08, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Adding italicized items to category pages

I noticed that on the page for 2017 live albums (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2017_live_albums), there are some items that are italicized (such as Jane Live). How can I add an italicized item to this page? Thanks. 108.18.151.170 (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

The italicized items are redirects. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:08, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I create a redirect? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.151.170 (talk) 17:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps you don't understand what a redirect is? See WP:Redirect. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:26, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I understand what a redirect is. Perhaps you didn't understand my first two questions? I will try to be as clear as possible. Carrie Underwood has a live album called Carrie Underwood: The Storyteller Tour - Stories in the Round. There is no Wikipedia page for that live album, but the live album is mentioned on the page for Storyteller Tour: Stories in the Round (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storyteller_Tour:_Stories_in_the_Round). I would like to create a redirect page for the live album similar to this one (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jane_Live&redirect=no) so I can add the live album by Carrie Underwood to this page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2017_live_albums). Does that make sense? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.151.170 (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2020 (UTC)