User talk:とある白い猫/Archive/2005
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FebruaryI've left some messages for you on Talk:Kurds and Talk:Kurdistan concerning your recent edits on these articles. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 19:30, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Turkey, Kurdish and Armanian issueSo let me get this straight the british dictate what Turkey refers to a reagion? Its turkish territory and no that statement is absolutely false. I dont care what the british claim. There is no kurdistan. Now there is a region where there is a high density kurdish poulation. you can invent a country that does not exist although that would be quite futile. The armanian genocide is as stated an ottomoan issue and does not belong to "Turkey" I neither deny nor accept the acusation, its neither my bussines nor vocation. Wikipedia seeks neutrality. And if you are going to accuse my ancestors that makes it NOT neutral. If you really want to accuse them do it in some other wikipedia page. The entier Kurd issue is a very sensitive topic and there is a great room for either side of the argument to dramatisize it. I merely work with facts. I have a scientific aproach to the issue, which dictates neither sides propoganda should be allowed. --
All I want to do is improve the quality by removing statements that dont belong where they are or remove/rewrite items that do not have a neutral value or are completely false. Edits to StarCraftHello. Please be more careful in your edits to StarCraft. You re-added the storyline section, deeming it was vandalism, without even looking at User:ShardPhoenix's edit summary. If you had, you'd have realized he deleted the section for a reason, and explains it on the talk page. Also, why did you put the lead section under Introduction? This is not standard formatting, I'm sorry.... Phils 13:24, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC) I realised the story thing after my edit but it was late so I went to bed. Puting lead under contents is nicer. As lead is introduction ;). Mainly its easier to edit. --
I'm using your user page to ask you to remove the "Introduction" header on the Starcraft page - it is established Wikipedia policy (see Lead section) to have a headerless lead section directly after the main title. No other article has a lead section in the format you suggest. I won't revert your edits myself anymore, but please remove the "Introduction" header Phils 17:18, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC).
Sure. Abolishing intorduction is a good idea, although some info was moved down to general info to increase article quality. -- StarCraft Players VfD NoticePlease don't remove VfD notices from a page while the vote is still ongoing. Thanks. Talk 17:53, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Edits to StarCraftI'm taking this to Wikipedia: Requests for Comment. However, understand that I do not disagree about the article being split: it must be split. I am just saying we should give an overview of gameplay and story in the main article plus the link to what you call subarticles. This is established policy in Wikipedia. The reason for my edits yesterday was that I believe the way you link the "subarticles" is not conform to what is normally done (check out articles like Canada or United States ), I did not remove the links to subarticles.
Again, we agree that the article should be split, just refrain from insulting me and read my edits and comments more carefully. I will not revert your edits, but please restore the last version of the article I had. Phils 11:13, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC).
KurdistanWe obviously disagree about the content of Kurdistan, and some of my reversions may have been a little hasty, but you do not need to accuse me of having a 'problem' or of vandalism. Vandalism is a very serious allegation and it is not the same as making edits you disagree with, or even edits that are illconsidered, misjudged or POV (see: Wikipedia:Vandalism). So don't throw the word around so lightly. I am interested in working to find a consensus on the article. But this isn't helped if people start throwing around insults. On a separate topic, please sign your posts on talkpages. It makes it easier to know who they're from. Iota 16:21, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC) Ah, now I think I see why you accused me of vandalism. I accidentally edited a comment you had made in the body of the article. That was a mistake not vandalism, but sorry about that. Iota 16:56, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC) Removal of users' own comments from your user talk pageYou ask people not to remove any comments they put here. This probably isn't a sensible thing to ask. This page is provided for other editors to communicate with you and they are entitled to edit or even remove their own text during the course of that communication. For instance if someone makes a personal attack it is sensible that he remove it in accordance with the policy No personal attacks. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 12:08, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC) I want to archive everything said for future referance. -- No problem. Everything said will be saved automatically in the page history. But it's considered polite to let people change their minds and apologise and delete inappropriate statements. Just think of it as common courtesy. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 21:02, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC) True. Although I am more concerned witn vandalism people deleting someone elses comments "for them". ;) -- Vandalism?Coolcat, Please review Wikipedia:Vandalism. Several of your reverts for "vandalism" clearly fall outside of the description given there. Some editors may consider such a description of their edits to be a personal attack. It also tends to call into question the usefulness of your edit summaries in general. To better understand what is meant by vandalism, you might want to follow Special:RecentChanges for a bit, especially changes made by non-logged-in users. -Rholton 17:10, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)
Please re-read the descriptions given on Wikipedia:vandalism, where it specifically states that POV edits are NOT vandalism. Then review the following changes that you labeled as vandalism:
Consider the following, again from Wikipedia:vandalism:
Even some very distasteful behavior, such as bullying, harassing, and personal attacks, while deplorable, are NOT vandalism. Using the word vandalism indiscriminately leads to confusion, and may itself be considered a form of bad-faith editing. Please make an effort to understand and conform to Wikipedia community norms. :-Rholton 20:11, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC) Agreed -- AtaturkSorry, that's not how you move an article. You move articles using the "Move" function at the top of your screen. If you can't do that because the place you want to move it to has an article with a history, you ask an admin for help. What you do not do is do a cut and paste move. That's a big no no. k 02:14, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Actually, wikipedia doesn't always use full name. See k 14:18, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. -- WelcomeWell you're new, and you're making mistakes but learning from them. You're learning to work with other editors rather than against them. I like to see that. Welcome. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:48, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC) Anon vandalismGidday Coolcat, I've looked at User:85.98.38.241's edits, and they are indeed vandalism. Since they were made by an anon without a history of previous vandalism, and they all happened within ten minutes and many hours ago, I doubt that anything would be achieved by blocked the IP address. I've placed a warning on their talk page, but the chances are, they'll never see it because they got bored with vandalising Wikipedia and moved on. When you warn someone for this sort of activity, please put your warning on their talk page, not their user page. Only a message posted to the talk page generates the "You have new messages" sign for them. Most vandals stop when they see this message. Thanks for alerting me about this anon.-gadfium 22:48, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC) Dark MatterCoolcat, your edit summary on dark matter:
strikes me as unusually impolite. You added a short third reference VIRGOHI21. I tried to merge all three, on the assumption that an editor who triplicates information was unlikely to do it. In your case that assumption was apparently unfounded (though there are still two different sections referencing it), but I do not see that assumption or my action as generally unreasonable. I'm sorry if that action or this comment offends you, but I find it annoying to be accused of being unproductive in attempting to merge multiply repeated information. Dragons flight 15:51, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC) MarchIquery on users 195.175.37.8 and 195.175.37.11There is a POV dispute as they keep adding their POV's on same articles. Since the IPs are so close I am not sure if these two people have same identitiy. Can you enlighten me? --
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Beultifull isnt it? Your Knowledge of History is LimitedJust as the title says, from what I've seen you say it seems like you know very little. So I'm asking you to please stay out of historical discussions which you know very little about. Putting things which you found on a google search doesn't impress anyone, except mental midgets. - Unisgned Moosh88
That's GreatHey thanks for telling me that, since I know nothing about history. NOT! Yes, I know that history is often written by the winners, but I also know that sometimes on Wiki, history is written by idiots. So yeah go ahead write all the crap articles that you want, if I relied purely on Wiki for historical knowledge I'd be a fool.
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Saladin Eyyubi
Hi,
I want to get a clear perspective on the man who is called Saladin Eyyubi.
I have read about this man. In some pages there stay that he is arabic, in some that he is kurdish and in som that he is turkish.
What's the true? I have read what you have written. On what bases do you ground your facts? Did you really engaged in the history of Saladin or did you put something together about what you have heard from older historians. Is there any definitive statements that can prove what origin Saladin has? Please don't misunderstand me, I don't want to disrespect you at all. It's that I am so confused about this thing for now.
- I don't recall editing this mans article. I have no opinion on this issue on top of my head. If you could give the articles link I can give you a healthier response. chi?22:09, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Call to Action
Whereas, much good
Whereas, the level of discussion and progress on the abovementioned page has dropped to a record level of none; no constructive commments have been made on existing awards since May 17, 2005,
Whereas, many "Vote or Die!" have been left open, namely two, as a result of this lack of discussion,
Whereas, nine proposals lie untouched by Wikipedian hands,
Whereas, you have previously commented and helped on the abovementioned page,
Therefore, I, who have absolutely no command in ordering this whatsoever, instruct you, とある白い猫/Archive/2005, to return to the barnstar commitment and further the creation of Wikipedian awards; vote liberally and spread your constructive comments.
(Signed) Cmd.
p.s. And I hope you come back-b
- I dont enjoy leaving wikipedia but users keep harassing me. Their edits concentrate on reverting my edits only. No one so far have taken the mesures to stop this.
- When I give governmentatal data thats pov because "governments have been known to lie" [5] some sane looking reverts dont quite have a basis. They are an expert on any and every issue I write.
- If they could make Star Trek POV they would. Which is the only thing they havent interfered.
- Even for articles I wrote such as Ranks and insignia of NATO Armies was bad [6]. I was "abusing" templates. I can go on forever.
- In sum its pointless for me to edit wikipedia. They find ways to bother me. They are obsessed with my edits. Their lack of edits rather than reverts is the living proof of this. Two users work together and get involved in revert wars in almost any article I edit. They have 6 reverts while I have 3. There always is a consensus against me by the same users on almost any article I touch. chi?21:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Wow, that's terrible. You seem like a dedicated editor and decent person; why are these users targeting you? I hate to see people leave this great project just because some jerks are ganging up. If you would like me to mediate or something, I'd be happy to. 5 pillars21:41, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
- I am not really sure. My theory is: my "futile" attempt to NPOVise chi?22:07, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I am not really sure. My theory is: my "futile" attempt to NPOVise
- Wow, that's terrible. You seem like a dedicated editor and decent person; why are these users targeting you? I hate to see people leave this great project just because some jerks are ganging up. If you would like me to mediate or something, I'd be happy to.
- You know what? I've found that editing contreversial articles isn't worth my time; the stress and toll it takes on me does not equal any work done, or any satisfaction found. My suggestion is, forget about the Armenian article altogether, and go do some RC patrol to get your stress level done. Nothing like good old work! Anything else, feel free to get on my 5 pillars01:29, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Ture, but now any article I touch becomes controversial. I have POV disputes with the same individuals on any article I go. Such as chi?10:01, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Ture, but now any article I touch becomes controversial. I have POV disputes with the same individuals on any article I go. Such as
Sorry to hear about this
I'm sorry to hear about your disillusionment with Wikipedia. I think you are a valuable contributor, I would rather have you around. On the other hand, it isn't important enough in the grand scheme of things that is should cost you that much stress. Wish you all the best, whatever path you take. Guettarda 16:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I dont enjoy leaving wikipedia but users keep harassing me. Their edits concentrate on reverting my edits only. No one so far have taken the mesures to stop this.
- When I give governmentatal data thats pov because "governments have been known to lie" [7] some sane looking reverts dont quite have a basis. They are an expert on any and every issue I write.
- If they could make Star Trek POV they would. Which is the only thing they havent interfered.
- Even for articles I wrote such as Ranks and insignia of NATO Armies was bad [8]. I was "abusing" templates. I can go on forever.
- In sum its pointless for me to edit wikipedia. They find ways to bother me. They are obsessed with my edits. Their lack of edits rather than reverts is the living proof of this. Two users work together and get involved in revert wars in almost any article I edit. They have 6 reverts while I have 3. There always is a consensus against me by the same users on almost any article I touch. chi?21:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
WP:RFC
I have removed your RFCs against Davenbelle and Stereotek because you didn't create a subpage for explaining and discussing the problem. If you still think a RFC is appropriate, please examine some existing RFCs to see how this is done. See
09:10, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)- Thanks that makes me very happy. chi?09:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I should point out you haven't cited any evidence, nor any applicable policies, nor have you found anyone to certify the basis of the dispute. Honestly, after reading your text, I still don't have a clue as to what's going on here. Radiant_>|< 10:48, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
- The RFC still isn't certified by the required two parties, thus it remains invalid. Please read RFC procedure for the details, but it is assumed that if you are the only person having the problem, then it's not RFC-worthy. Stereotek has requested that this be deleted; if Davenbelle has no objections, I will do so in the near future. Radiant_>|< 11:24, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Hi. As you can see here my rfc cases future looks grim. how should I proceed now? chi?11:38, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It's just a technicality, there is a substantive problem here because you three can't work together. I'll do some research and see what you and Davenbelle and Stereotek are up to, then I'll try to suggest some solutions to all three. Hopefully we can work something out and you will no longer feel harassed. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 11:44, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've moved the RFC to your userspace, User:Coolcat/Davenbelle and Stereotek. Good luck with Tony's mediation. Radiant_>|< 13:52, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
I'm getting permission from Stereotek and Davenbelle on this. If they insist, we will still have to delete it.
You may want to take a copy now. There are wiki providers such as memebot which would give you a reasonably Wikipedia-compatible place to copy it to for reference. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 13:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I have deleted it on request of one of the subjects. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:39, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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it would seem you have a legitimate basis for complaint with regards to the situation outligned. justice can be done by my self, and a few of those like my self. - James Jones
- What do you propose? chi?01:16, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Vandalbot
Do you realize your Talk page is very confusing? I have no idea where to post. Anyway, thanks for the offer of the vandalbot, but I don't use IRC. Sorry. RickK 04:22, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
ok. while the topic can be controversial I did not remove anything. See how again my edits and hard work is gone. Please assist.
- Have you ever seen this? If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, do not submit it. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 16:07, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. But like "Bad Wolf" of Dr. Who, Same individuals are appearing on all wiki time frames. I just want to deal and reason with individuals and not senseless reverts. You were talking about doing something about this on RfC page. I am all ears.
- I see you as a guide as you are one hell of a guide. Should I reopen my RfC case directly and tell it to the two people (you and silsor) to comment? Or some other course of action? chi?23:18, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I see you as a guide as you are one hell of a guide. Should I reopen my RfC case directly and tell it to the two people (you and silsor) to comment? Or some other course of action?
Special thanks
Thanks for reminding the policy of Wikipedia everytime , especially about the neutrality of the articles. Have A Nice Day aozan
GAP Project
If you revert the
21:27, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)Vandal bot
Hi Coolcat, that's an excellent system you got running there. Can I ask you though - why does everything the bot posts have a black background, at least in GAIM? The 'excuse' is coming out as black text on a black background, which of course isn't good :-) Dan100 (Talk) 13:26, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
- Actually the color codes works fne on Mirc. I'll change excuse text to something else, hopefully makeing it readale. Its Cyan on mirc. The black background is to make sure the text is readable. It is just a quencedence of GAIM to read both color codes as the same maybe. Ill change it to something else. Tell me if it looks better. chi?20:04, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You are leaving?
Please no! I just hope this is a wikibreak... Ta bu shi da yu 04:17, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I serriously considered leaving. Infact I was gone for 15 days plus. Later decided to make it a temprorary wiki vacation. Its an extended vacation until I resolve some issues with the two users who "mercilessly" revert stalk my edits. chi?10:39, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Glad to see that things are sorted :-) Ta bu shi da yu 23:35, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Things arent quite sorted yet. I still recieve my revert stalking experience. I am less inclined to edit at the moment. chi?12:57, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Things arent quite sorted yet. I still recieve my revert stalking experience. I am less inclined to edit at the moment.
What's happening?
Who's stalking you? - Ta bu shi da yu 23:40, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I have commented on the talk page of Armenian Genocide. I do not have any knowledge of this article or the issue it documents. However, I have noticed many words in the article that must be sourced. The article is not neutral, IMO, until this can be done. I am unsure what the issues are that you documented, or which side of the political divide you exist on: I have made my comments as a disinterested 3rd party. As that disinterested 3rd party, I have no preconceptions about this article as I have no knowledge of it. I have made my comments in such a manner. I hope this helps. If there are further issues to be aware of then I would be happy to hear them: I would also be happy to hear from the other side (whoever they are). - Ta bu shi da yu02:49, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- If you file another RFC and provide detailed evidence, along with the specific policies that the behaviour has affected, I will look into having it endorsed. However, please make sure that you provide sufficient evidence that at least two users have attempted to resolve the problem. My suggestion is to use the following RFC as a guide: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Alfrem. - Ta bu shi da yu 1 July 2005 01:08 (UTC)
- Coolcat, I've just been talking to Fadix, and I'm wondering if we can drop the whole RFC business. I say this because the Armenian Genocide page became heated and I fear that both sides (Fadix and yourself) have traded insults and personal remarks :-( For the good of the article, would you be willing to say sorry to Fadix about those things (not about your stance on the article - I'm not asking for apologies on opinions held!)? I have said the exact same thing to Fadix. I hope that you won't find this to be an insult and if you find my suggestion offensive then please understand that I am only trying to find a way forward on the article, and of course find a way that two fine editors of Wikipedia can coexist on this site, even when they have strongly differing opinions! - Ta bu shi da yu 2 July 2005 01:59 (UTC)
- Ah! Just saw the RFC - I thought it was filed against Fadix! Plesae ignore my comments on the RFC, they were made out of ignorance. I will review it and comment. My other comments about the dispute between Fadix and yourself still stand though... I hope the two of you can work together, rather than against each other. - Ta bu shi da yu 2 July 2005 02:05 (UTC)
- If you file another RFC and provide detailed evidence, along with the specific policies that the behaviour has affected, I will look into having it endorsed. However, please make sure that you provide sufficient evidence that at least two users have attempted to resolve the problem. My suggestion is to use the following RFC as a guide: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Alfrem. - Ta bu shi da yu 1 July 2005 01:08 (UTC)
July
GAP project
Coolcat, I've processed about a thousand copyvios. I have never accepted anonymous permission to use previously published material. I held this page to the same standards as every other copyvio I've evaluated. How can you say you were unfairly treated?
You said that you re-wrote the history pages that I deleted, yet they contained at least a full paragraph of copied, previously published material. (let me know if you want me to email you the text in question, not being an administrator you won't be able to see the deleted history I'm talking about).
Finally, why don't you say to my face what you've been saying behind my back??--
- I am not talking behind your back. I am not jumping from admin pages to another, filling RfC cases etc. I just ask people to compare the copy vio page and the alleged page. I tell them copy vio im MY pov is unaproporate. I have every right to do that. They compare and react. If a paragraph is indeed copied from the site and is not on the canadian PD site, feel free to delete it. Just tell me exactly what you deleted so I can rewrite and re add knowlege back to the article. Please do not remove everything but only the copy vio material, just because a paragraph (Id love to know which) is violating "copyrights" (who owns copyrights?) doesnt mean you get to delete everything. All images on the article with the exeption of two are from the same US PD source. Just google image search for the image file names. The other two, one is fair use of areal picture of ataturk dam and other is a graph created by a felow wiki user which replaced the "bad" us gov graph. chi?2 July 2005 01:00 (UTC)
- I am not talking behind your back. I am not jumping from admin pages to another, filling RfC cases etc. I just ask people to compare the copy vio page and the alleged page. I tell them copy vio im MY pov is unaproporate. I have every right to do that. They compare and react. If a paragraph is indeed copied from the site and is not on the canadian PD site, feel free to delete it. Just tell me exactly what you deleted so I can rewrite and re add knowlege back to the article. Please do not remove everything but only the copy vio material, just because a paragraph (Id love to know which) is violating "copyrights" (who owns copyrights?) doesnt mean you get to delete everything. All images on the article with the exeption of two are from the same US PD source. Just google image search for the image file names. The other two, one is fair use of areal picture of ataturk dam and other is a graph created by a felow wiki user which replaced the "bad" us gov graph.
- Finaly, I do think your judgement is unfair. You are in error, partialy if not completely. chi?2 July 2005 01:05 (UTC)
- Finaly, I do think your judgement is unfair. You are in error, partialy if not completely.
- What was my error? Not taking anonymous granting of copyright licensing? Do you honestly believe that Wikipedia should accept anonymous granting of copyright licensing? And if you are really the author of the text in question, why didn't you note earlier that it was PD? --Duk2 July 2005 01:17 (UTC)
- What was my error? Not taking anonymous granting of copyright licensing? Do you honestly believe that Wikipedia should accept anonymous granting of copyright licensing? And if you are really the author of the text in question, why didn't you note earlier that it was PD? --
I sent you an email; Coolcat, below is a sample of copied text from the GAP project's second copyvio deletion (this is the version that you said you re-wrote)...
...copied text emailed to Coolcat, admins can see the page at [9]...
It contains exact copies as well as derived writing from http://www.adiyamanli.org/ataturk_dam.htm. When I evaluated this copyvio there was no evidence that it was PD, only an assertion from you that you rewrote it. As you can see from this sample, you didn't fully re-write it.
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- You are welcome to send me every instance of what you think is a copy vio, preferably ones that arent on the canadian PD page. Oh and btw, please do not use the RfC page to discuss this matter, use the talk of same RfC page. chi?2 July 2005 12:55 (UTC)
- You are welcome to send me every instance of what you think is a copy vio, preferably ones that arent on the canadian PD page. Oh and btw, please do not use the RfC page to discuss this matter, use the talk of same RfC page.
- The material you mailed me was not in the article on last delete. Note that I am not bothering to discuss on who wrote the older version of article and its copyright status because thats talking to the wall. chi?2 July 2005 15:04 (UTC)
- The material you mailed me was not in the article on last delete. Note that I am not bothering to discuss on who wrote the older version of article and its copyright status because thats talking to the wall.
A simmilar content existed however:
The primary objective of GAP is to normalise levels of development, income, and living standards between the southeastern region and other regions of Turkey. Creating economic and social opportunities and promoting business, GAP is transforming the region completely. Critical infrastructure, such as airports and highways, is being constructed to support the development of the region. GAP will provide jobs to an estimated 3.5 million people directly.
GAP will provide jobs. Airports and highways will be constructed. This isnt something adiyamanli.org made up. It was Turkish Gov's plans.
- Are Turkish Gov. plans PD? And did you note this when you first posted the article? Did you note this and provide a source when the copyvio was being evaluated? Or are you now, weeks later, trying to explain away you plagersim and copyright violations and paint yourself as a victim?--Duk2 July 2005 15:12 (UTC)
- This is ridiclous. You are calling names and making less sense each time. I ask you to stop calling me names in a civilised manner, I would hope to see a civilised reaction. chi?2 July 2005 18:18 (UTC)
- This is ridiclous. You are calling names and making less sense each time. I ask you to stop calling me names in a civilised manner, I would hope to see a civilised reaction.
I would have thought you would make sure material that apears to be copy vio is not in any PD sites so as not to clutter copy vio system.
- If you want to used previously published material in Wikipedia it's up to you to identify the source, its licence and to note all of this on the article's talk page. Do this BEFORE you copy, not weeks after the copyvio has been processed--Duk2 July 2005 15:36 (UTC)
- Right, for me I just copy pasted material in a TXT file in my hard drive. Later found an image on google image search. You obvioulsy dont believe me, or do not want to believe me (I do not rally care). We are discussing the latest version of the article not an elder version. I am not accepting violating copyights, I am not fighting for the elder version either. Just to satisfy you, or people like you (other copy vio people), I rewote the article. Not once but twice. Deleting the article only annoys me. Instead if you just told me whats violating copyrights (like your mail) I would have been more than happy to fix anything that supposively violating copyrights. This way everyone including me would be happy. chi?2 July 2005 18:18 (UTC)
- Right, for me I just copy pasted material in a TXT file in my hard drive. Later found an image on google image search. You obvioulsy dont believe me, or do not want to believe me (I do not rally care). We are discussing the latest version of the article not an elder version. I am not accepting violating copyights, I am not fighting for the elder version either. Just to satisfy you, or people like you (other copy vio people), I rewote the article. Not once but twice. Deleting the article only annoys me. Instead if you just told me whats violating copyrights (like your mail) I would have been more than happy to fix anything that supposively violating copyrights. This way everyone including me would be happy.
- Coolcat, its not the job of the administrators clearing copyright violations to re-write the articles, they revert or delete. See the instructions at Duk2 July 2005 18:45 (UTC)
- I tried to reason with you, but you are a wall. Keep calling names, its rather amusing. chi?2 July 2005 18:53 (UTC)
- Coolcat, your re-write still contained copied text, thats why it was reverted, and the history pages deleted. It's not the duty of the administrators evaluating copyright violations to re-write articles.--Duk2 July 2005 19:15 (UTC)
- Coolcat, your re-write still contained copied text, thats why it was reverted, and the history pages deleted. It's not the duty of the administrators evaluating copyright violations to re-write articles.--
- I tried to reason with you, but you are a wall. Keep calling names, its rather amusing.
- Coolcat, its not the job of the administrators clearing copyright violations to re-write the articles, they revert or delete. See the instructions at
- ...Keep calling names, its rather amusing. -- Are you refering to my serial liar, plagerizer and copyright violator comment? --Duk2 July 2005 19:18 (UTC)
- ...Keep calling names, its rather amusing. -- Are you refering to my serial liar, plagerizer and copyright violator comment? --
- Coolcat, I just read your comment on Tony's talk page. There seems to be a misunderstanding. I have no comment whatsoever about the current page. My comments are completely in regards to the second copyvio that I processes two months ago. I have done everything to avoid you since then, aside from defending my actions on that page.--Duk2 July 2005 19:27 (UTC)
- Coolcat, I just read your comment on Tony's talk page. There seems to be a misunderstanding. I have no comment whatsoever about the current page. My comments are completely in regards to the second copyvio that I processes two months ago. I have done everything to avoid you since then, aside from defending my actions on that page.--
Starfleet ranks and insignia FAC
I also personally think the FAC was too soon, so I ask you to close this nomination and figure out what is going on. We still have a problem with mainly sources, not with images this time. However, we cannot find all of the sources during the FAC period, so we should at least send it to peer review before making it to the FAC for the fourth time. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 2 July 2005 15:52 (UTC)
- I am not going to call off the FAC. I just want to see all points people object to. That way we can improve them before FAC time expires. This wasn't something I did on my own. I asked several people, including raul if they would want to see this on a second FAC. chi?2 July 2005 17:46 (UTC)
Hi Coolcat. I did reinsert your photo, and I don't object to your other edits, but I want to keep as much info, pro and con, in the article as possible. That was why I rolled back to the earlier version. I'm not going to put anything in myself. I did relink to your photo, and please feel free to put in as much other stuff as you like, I was mostly concerned not to lose anything. Sorry about the mix up. Fire Star 2 July 2005 17:34 (UTC)
- No problem. I was just trying to do clean up. The image is not mine, just the only image I found on a google image search. :) chi?2 July 2005 17:37 (UTC)
- Things seem to have quieted down a bit. I'd like to get the new editor discussing things, if possible, but I have to leave soon (of course). Wish me luck! Fire Star 2 July 2005 18:04 (UTC)
- Good luck, although I don't know if a person like me of which a dark cloud folows has any luck to spread :) chi?2 July 2005 19:44 (UTC)
- Good luck, although I don't know if a person like me of which a dark cloud folows has any luck to spread :)
No, I was not the person who deleted the latest version. See; http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=Southeastern+Anatolia+Project Looks like
As I said before, After my copyvio work two months ago I've had nothing to do with this page, aside from defending my actions. In your RFC complaint #5, are you refering only to the latest deletion of this page? If so you should mention this in the complaint, and I will strike out my comments.--
- Oooook. Sorry for screaming and annoying you. GAP Project is being very stressfull for me. The stress I get from the people I discuss in RFC isnt helping either. Now, I am not trying to get the older version which you rightfully can mark as copy vio as identical material was on the alleged page. It was also on a PD page. If you, or some other copy vio warrior was investigating the article they would have seen the PD resource and never bother Copyvioing the page. Regardless... I did rewrite the page so I really don't want to discuss the older version(s). Just please don't mark me as a repetive offender as I don't believe I am one. My problem is not with you, but with the two people on RfC bothering me. --Cool Cat My Talk 2 July 2005 21:02 (UTC)
- I'm sorry we had this confusion and I apologise for my strong language. --Duk2 July 2005 21:24 (UTC)
- I'm sorry we had this confusion and I apologise for my strong language. --
- It was my fault as well, I should have checked the delete logs. :( chi?2 July 2005 21:32 (UTC)
- It was my fault as well, I should have checked the delete logs. :(
Since you asked... One web site had only one sentence coppied from it which I did reword. The other, had about a paragraph. The latter one is the one I asked permision from. I do not remember the urls. If you could post me the two urls as they apeared on the ex copy vio notice, I can easily tell you which one it is. --Cool Cat My Talk 3 July 2005 04:16 (UTC)
- First of all, I think you are missing the point, violating copyrights and plagiarism is a very bad thing. It is a form of theft, it is intellectually dishonest. It Squanders huge amounts of time of the people who have to clean up your mess. Don't do it. And if you do, get GFDL permission and document it BEFORE posting a copyright violation.
- Second, I asked you months ago for an explanation of what came from where on this article. You couldn't explain to me which text came from which website, let alone convince us the the license granted was GFLD. I have no second thoughts about deleting this article. And I have no intentions of re-visiting this article. Of course, you can always try another administrator.
- Finally, I'm simply astonished that you have no shame. Don't you realize how much trouble you've caused for other people, and how much of their time you've wasted, all because you were too lazy to follow the rules and do your own writing? And then you repeated your crime, over and over. And then you act like a victim when other people clean up your mess. Think about this, Coolcat. It might be one of the reasons why you are having a tough time at Wikipedia. I don't want to have any more contact with you- until you've accepted responsibility for your actions, apologize to me for all of my time you have wasted, and quit acting like a victim. --Duk3 July 2005 16:18 (UTC)
This is utterly mind-boggling. A copied sentence, a copied paragraph? These are not matters for the copyright lawyers! --Tony Sidaway|Talk
- It's not a matter of a simple copyvio, but rather, the non-stop complaining, for months afterwards, where Coolcat claims he's been mistreated. He hasn't been mistreated (with regards to Dianosis:Murder). Yet over and over Coolcat cites Diagnosis:Murder as evidence of his mistreatment, blaming the copyvio people who can't read size 28 text and misrepresenting the situation. Tony, do you begrudge me defending myself?--Duk6 July 2005 00:07 (UTC)
Request for arbitration
I think the state of the current RfC Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Davenbelle and Stereotek demonstrates that intervention by the arbitration committee may now be merited. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 4 July 2005 17:28 (UTC)
- It shall be done. chi?6 July 2005 11:14 (UTC)
GAP project
Hi there! Sorry but I won't be restoring anything about this unless I am convinced that the page is in fact not a copyvio. Radiant_>|< July 4, 2005 18:42 (UTC)
- How can I convince you? chi?6 July 2005 11:11 (UTC)
- Since I rarely judge copyvio matters, I'd suggest you state your case at July 6, 2005 11:14 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Starfleet ranks and insignia
Ou article is sadly under attack. Its perhaps a good thing, becuase when the VFD fails noone will again be able to say the article shouldnt be on Wikipedia. Your Keep vote would be appreciated. -
I've made a proposal at
WP:ViP
There must be a POV about the ARMENIANS article
please look to Armenians talk page, I told why there must be POV in the article. I put but they are deleting it. -- aozan
About Kemalism Article
I created an article about
- Both cases fall under vandalism. You can list the incident in chi?9 July 2005 14:07 (UTC)
Thanks, I will be glad if you send me a massage if you want to give an advice or a warning or just to talk about something what you want,cheers -- aozan
Am I doing Vandalism?
I deleted the Armenian genocide term from the text on Turkey page in pre-historic, because it was not related with history of the modern Turkey (For example Laussanne Treaty, Sevres treaty are related with the article but Armenian genocide is not), it is only related with Ottoman Empire, I am asking you is my deleting genocide term from there vandalism? If you say "yes you are doing vandalism" , I will stop deleting it from the term in the text in Turkey Page. -- aozan
- Removing POV is not vandalism, however determineing what is POV and what isn't is something that may be a challenge. Each article has a Talk page. Instead of editing parts in articles it is often beneficial to edit the talk page and discuss your cases. chi?11:16, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- You may also find WP:NPA. No one should be insulting you or discussing you in any way. Talk pages exists so people can and should be discussing the topic not the individual editors.
- chi?11:16, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- I can guide you to the best of my abilities. I am currently on a business trip so I have limited time on the internet. chi?11:16, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I said in the talk page of Armenians Article why there must be a POV, you can see, I understood that you are busy, sorry to disturb, but I will continue to putting it, please look to Armenians talk page, until you say "Do not put POV tag" I will continue, but before you make any decision, please look at there , to Armenians talk page , why I put the disputed tag when you have time, ıf you say to me that I am not right , I will stop, I don't have any problem with them, but I can not accept that thing until there is a primary document about an order or a plan that belongs to Ottoman Government to kill the Armenians --- aozan
- I cannot "fight" for you. If you think something is POV you may try to NPOVise it. If you are unable to NPOVise something you may want to point out exactly what is POV on the talk page. NPOV does NOT mean No Point of view. It means Neutral point of view. Baseless POV (ie POV without sources) do NOT belong to wikipedia, that is correct. That doesn't make all POV bad. chi?11:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
- chi?11:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
- I will investigate the matter. If I see POV I'll point it out in the talk page. You can mimic me on other instances on statements where you see POV. It is not easy to NPOVise an article. It takes time. Be patient, ammend, edit, discuss and you should be fine. You may also try editing less contraversial articles aside from this one. Why not improve for example chi?11:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi Coolcat, I'll restore this version per the discussion on the article's talk page. But there is still some material that is copied from the previously published text (leftover from your refactoring); for example, The range of new products under cultivation is also expanding appears at [10].
I'm going to leave sentences like these out, just so there is no more controversy. The information can be re-written and added later. Please wait till I'm done restoring (I'll do it in parts) and be very carefull not to add any more previously published text by accident. --
]- PS. I'll strike out text on ]
OK, its done--
]- I understand, I wont be touching the article untill you are done. I tried to rewrite the sections you marked, check if it works. Here: [11] chi?12:42, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
OK Coolcat, I'm done, the final section has been restored. --
]Egypt
Wasn't that article you were looking for titled
- No I will write it myself. Just not this week. :) chi?17:42, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Kurdistan Workers Party
I noticed your comments on the PKK talk page. I'm currently attempting to correct grammatic and POV errors in the text, and have provided a diff on the talk page showing an initial series of edits. If you'd take a look at it, I would appreciate it.--Scimitar 19:21, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
- Sure, I am currently on vacation so I do not know how much well of a response I may come up with. In about a week, I will deffinately give a complete response. Just dont give up on me :) chi?15:16, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, well, I'll probably get started on more edits then, and hopefully I won't muck things up to badly! If you have any problems with the changes I make, I'm more than ready to discuss them.--Scimitar 15:46, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Sure. chi?15:49, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Sure.
- Okay, well, I'll probably get started on more edits then, and hopefully I won't muck things up to badly! If you have any problems with the changes I make, I'm more than ready to discuss them.--Scimitar 15:46, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Signature
Is it possible for you to place a talk link to your user talk page as well like my sig?
- I'm actually not sure how to do that. --Scimitar 16:15, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Nevermind. --Scimitar parley 16:20, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- you should see: Scimitar my talk Preferences My watchlist My contributions Log out
- On the top of the screen.
- You should have a signature field in "Preferences". You have (I believe) Scimitar there which is the default sig, alink to the user page. Change that to something like this: Scimitar|Scimitar]] [[User talk:Scimitar|<sup>My Talk</sup>.
- <sup></sup> is just fancy btw chi?16:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Aww.. too late :P
Mass upload
There's a tool called Wikimedia Commonplace, but I can't remember where to download it. Make sure you are logged in when you use it. - Mgm|(talk) 18:45, July 20, 2005 (UTC) I'm sure that if you ask at the commons, someone will know. - Mgm|(talk) 18:49, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
- Recieved with thanks. I shall make good use of that :) chi?10:10, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Namespace for your office
Hi Coolcat.
I noticed that you created an Office page to keep track of your tasks and tools. It's an excellent idea.
One thing you might want to do, however, is create it as a subpage of your User page (for example, as User:Coolcat/Office) rather than in its present location at User Office:Coolcat. The latter creates a new apparent namespace ("User Office": really a pseudo-namespace), which is generally frowned upon. Let me know if you need any help with the move; I'd be glad to get rid of the old redirect for you once the page move is done.
Happy editing, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 19:03, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
- I did as you asked. I also placed the redirect on a quickie delete. Lets see how fast can you delete the redirect :) chi?09:44, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- Oh an you are welcome to "steal" my ideas :) chi?09:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- Too late; MTG beat me to it to delete the redirect page. Thanks for moving it over. :) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 13:04, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- Anytime. Oh and btw (something completely unrelated), I am trying to rename and move all images on the page chi?13:07, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- Anytime. Oh and btw (something completely unrelated), I am trying to rename and move all images on the page
G20
Nice work on G20 developing nations -- the flag format is very funky! — Matt Crypto 14:42, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- I actualy am imroving all G##'s . Thanks. chi?14:59, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- You may find chi?16:20, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Arbitration Committee case opening
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek has been accepted and is now open. Please bring evidence to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/Evidence. Thank you. -- sannse (talk) 13:30, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
RFA, The GAP project
Hi Coolcat, on Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek you state; Davenbelle marked GAP project a copy vio. Material was PD and is used on 11 websites of which two are PD. Copyvio people deleted the page anyway as copy vio people if they are marking pages as a copy vio make sure material is not on a PD source.
Could you please cite your source and identify the PD publication, or remove the claim that this material is PD.
I'm the Copyvio people deleted the page anyway and there was no evidence persented at the time showing that this material is PD. If you can demonstrate that this material is PD then please do and I'll reconsider, otherwise stop claiming that it was improperly deleted. --
]- Why are you bothering me with this? It is old argument which we discussed. You are a bit to defensive and this is starting to bother me. The stuff you are throwing me is coppied from the RfC. GEEEZ! chi?02:22, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I don't think he's trying to harass you, Coolcat. If you feel that Davenbelle unfairly or inaccurately marked the article as a copyvio, then it would help if you made more information available about the source of the material. Without evidence to back up the assertion that the material is public domain, Duk had no choice to but to delete it as a copyright violation. He's bringing it up because you mentioned it in your RfArb case, and is hoping to clarify if you still believe the material to be public domain. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 03:20, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I can prove copyrights by sacrificing my identity, which I do not want to do. From his (duks) prespective what he did is right even though I wasn't violating copyrights but as he pointed out it would be retarded to accept "annonymous" copyrights. Since I can't/don't want to proove copyright status I had rested my case earlier on. chi?12:32, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- The rfc entry was about the same material appearing on a Canadian PD source of which a Copy vio expert like duk would notice when checking for copy vios. That would be a proper "assume good faith" enviorment. chi?12:32, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I am just mad I see duk "defending" himself again as I havent suggested/pushed the copyrights to arbcom evidence. The material on arbcom was coppied from the RfC which duk and several others discussed this matter to death. This was coppied to Arbcom listing, then was coppied to where it is now by an arbcom member as that is the porper procedure. So I am being yelled at by duk yet again. :( chi?12:32, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I can prove copyrights by sacrificing my identity, which I do not want to do. From his (duks) prespective what he did is right even though I wasn't violating copyrights but as he pointed out it would be retarded to accept "annonymous" copyrights. Since I can't/don't want to proove copyright status I had rested my case earlier on.
- Coolcat, I'm more than happy to let this drop. But every time you claim this copyvio was mis-handled I will defend myself. The problem with your making a false claim like this, over and over again for months on end, is that people start to believe it, even if it isn't true. I'm not the one keeping this alive. --]
- It is the copy fo RFC on Arbcom request page. I was not the one copinging it nor do I feel it matters. Why the hell would I insist on something that I have rewritten better than the older version? chi?14:56, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- It is the copy fo RFC on Arbcom request page. I was not the one copinging it nor do I feel it matters. Why the hell would I insist on something that I have rewritten better than the older version?
- OK, then please remove item number 5 under the Statement by Coolcat section at ]
- IT IS A GOD DAMN COPY OF RFC. Which was coppied to requests for Arbcom before your involvement in the RFC. And was coppied to Requests for "arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek" but NOT by me. I encourage you to start reading what I am posting you more carefully. chi?15:23, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- IT IS A GOD DAMN COPY OF RFC. Which was coppied to requests for Arbcom before your involvement in the RFC. And was coppied to Requests for "arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek" but NOT by me. I encourage you to start reading what I am posting you more carefully.
- Wonderfull, then please remove the incorrect information. Striking it out would work too :) --]
- Done, please do not waiste my time on this anymore. chi?16:47, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- Done, please do not waiste my time on this anymore.
Sig
I noticed your sig links to
]Seperation of the history?
Please cut the links out, but not the history. I have checked other organizations, they do not have this much links.
I reject the seperation. That can not improve anything. I reject this. -unsigned Tommiks
- I am sorry, I feel history should be covered in greater detail. This does not mean we are going to completely remove history from chi?20:01, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I know you spent a lot of work on this article, but we need to break articles larger than 32 bytes. This has nothing to do with chi?20:01, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- Also please sign your posts. chi?20:01, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
PKK butchered ??
Everything in the history of this organization is very important. I do not see myself in a position to select which activity is more important and which one is not. How could anyone can see themselves is a mind boiling thing for me. This organization brought financial breakdown, killed the political system (including parlementers), There is no other organization, and goverment in the recent history killed more Kurds than PKK, PKK integrated "terrorism law" to Turkish justice system and Turkey's daily life. If you break the document into sections, I can not accept my name associated with it. AS I have SEEN examples of people breaking the document integrity, and then document turns into a mud. I have also seen these changes performed willingly, to make the document fit one specific idealogy, by assigning importance. If there is one document that will be larger than the "so called page limit". It should be this document. Can YOU protect the integrity of the document if it is composed of multiple pages?? -UNSIGNED Tomminks
- PLEASE sign your posts so I know who is posting the message. chi?21:50, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- Wikipedias software is not designed to run properly on pages exeeding 32 bytes. This is how it was programmed long before this article is introduced. Also people with dial-up (56K) connection would have one hell of a time loading the page. chi?21:50, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I monitor a lot of articles. Some have been broken into smaller pages. If someone presents garbage into the article I'll gladly trash it. chi?21:50, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- You do not need to explain me the PKK horror, I have first hand experience. chi?21:50, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I understand you are being frustrated. Please rememember the wikipedia policy:
- I'll just wait a bit before editting. I don't have a problem with extreme views, but this was hardly my decision. I mentioned it on the talk page, nobody disagreed until now. I just don't particularly like being accused of having a pro-PKK bias. If you guys feel I'm doing a bad job, I have no problem backing off. Also, I've read the policy on biting, but I appreciate the thought. All the best. --Scimitar parley 22:13, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I posses some anti-PKK bias, whatever that means. So I need people like you with no to little knowlege/bias to NPOVise the article and improve quality with an objective manner. I frankly cant see my POV. I am not going to comment on what you are doing because I am not watching it too closely, I just glance at the changes. I trust you will improve the article. I do not want to interfere with your edits. chi?22:35, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I do not want to take sides for the sake of evading rever wars and other crap. Contraversial articles are always a pain in the ass. chi?22:35, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I just hope you dont get over stressed. You are doing a fine job under pressure. chi?22:35, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
- I posses some anti-PKK bias, whatever that means. So I need people like you with no to little knowlege/bias to NPOVise the article and improve quality with an objective manner. I frankly cant see my POV. I am not going to comment on what you are doing because I am not watching it too closely, I just glance at the changes. I trust you will improve the article. I do not want to interfere with your edits.
Commons images
(as you know) I've put up a number of flags of the PKK on Commons:Deletion requests, you can argue your case there. Regards, Joolz 16:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Speedy delet template
Hi!
The pages you wanted to have deleted where not Wikipedia article, they where project pages. They are Guild aimed to assemble editors and direct their efforts, and therefore not subjugated to "no original research".
Take a look att Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam:SIIEG.
If those guilds are to be delete, so should Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam:SIIEG.
--Striver 00:55, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
- Hi! Conspiracies are fun and the discussion perhaps goes forever. But please understand certain wikipedia policies confine us to certain rules.
- Wikipedia strives on verifiable facts. Therefore, no original research should prevail on wikipedia.
- Wikipedia is neither a forum or a free webhost. Wikipedia is not a soapbox either.
- Wiki projects exist to improve quality of multiple wikipedia articles.
- You are welcome to create a wikipedia project to improve the quality of all conspiracy articles.
- chi?01:37, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi!
Of course do we have wikipedia policies to confine us, and im sure we both are happy to abide by them. And of cource is "no original research" a part of it. But as you noticed, that is a project page, not a article. There is a great diffrence. In the project page, we can air or views and belifes, but we can not do that on the article. Its like a talk page, its not a part of the encyclopedia, and thereofor abides by diffrent rules.
Those guild are not aimed to be soapboxes, neither to be a chat room. Its sole aim is to give a more coherent view to the topic, and make the editors to have a expanded knowledge of the articles related, resulting in higher standard for each article. Those projects are aimed at just that: Improving articles.
You en with "You are welcome to create a wikipedia project to improve the quality of all conspiracy articles."
Well, that is exactly what i have done. In what way do you not agree with me? And please, let us reach a conlusion on talk page befor reverting or puting those templates there again, revert wars are not encouraged, rather talk is. You cant just speedy delet them when somebody whants it to be there.
have a good day :)
--Striver 02:10, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
WP:CP
It's good to see someone willing to help out with copyvios. Please add them at the bottom of a day's list, and do sign them with date and user name (~~~~). Keep up the good work. Rl 10:57, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
- Actualy I can do beter than that on server: irc.freenode.net and channel: #en.wikipedia.vandalism I have a bot that was ment to detect vandalism. It apperanltly does a good job detecting copy vios. An unintended function if you will. Feel free to use it ;) chi?11:01, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll take a look. Did you post the source code somewhere? Rl 11:35, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
- Code isn't open source only because I am too... well... protective of my code... chi?11:50, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
- Code isn't open source only because I am too... well... protective of my code...
It ment to be a joke, so it reads in the template. Geezz...
- Oh! I always interpreted BJAODN as delete. Awwww... Sry :P chi?17:38, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
- Oh! I always interpreted BJAODN as delete. Awwww... Sry :P
How can I send you e-mail? -Unsigned 195.175.37.70
- You can send me an email by using the E-mail this user link on my user page or alternatively by clicking here chi?18:09, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
You placed a speedy tag on this article with the explanation "posible copy vio Sistine Chapel Choir, indentical material posted here". I'm just curious about your reasoning. Have you evidence of copyvio? I was unable to find any, but my only resource was Google. In checking the main article, I note that it does not have the Early History section, which constitutes a significant portion of the article. (I will admit I am curious as to why this was simply not amended to the original.) Finally, the article appears to have been blanked at the same time the speedy tag was applied. I'm wondering why. (BTW, pleased to see another SETI screensaver user at work. Yay us!) Denni☯ 23:59, 2005 July 30 (UTC)
- When one suspects a copy vio it is necesary to "blank" the page untill copyright status is established. The copy vio tags aren't always acurate. Infact for chi?11:18, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
- Yay for SETI! chi?11:18, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
- I believe it is necessary to have some evidence of copyvio before acting on it - just a hunch is not enough. If there is evidence of copyvio, then a speedy tag is not appropriate - you should use the {{copyvio|url=}} tag. That was the cause of my confusion. Normally, pages are blanked only with the application of a copyvio tag, never with just a speedy tag. As per the copyviopage, here's the procedure:
- I believe it is necessary to have some evidence of copyvio before acting on it - just a hunch is not enough. If there is evidence of copyvio, then a speedy tag is not appropriate - you should use the {{copyvio|url=}} tag. That was the cause of my confusion. Normally, pages are blanked only with the application of a copyvio tag, never with just a speedy tag. As per the
- ==== Actions to take for text ====
- Remove the text of the article, and replace it with the following:
{{copyvio|url=''place URL of allegedly copied material here''}}~~~~
- Where you replace "place URL of allegedly copied material here" with the Web address (or book or article reference) that contains the original source text. For example:
- {{copyvio|url=http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/hovawart.htm}}
- After removing the suspected text violation add an entry on this page under today's section at the bottom of this page.
- Optionally, add template:nothanks to the article creator's talk page, to notify them of the problems with posting copyrighted material to wikipedia.
Public Domain Catholic Encyclopedia (Sistine Chapel Choir)
Text from the Catholic Encyclopedia has passed into the public domain. Articles which use text from the Catholic encyclopedia should have the the {{Catholic}} template added at the bottom. The online site is copyrighted, but that doesn't apply to the 1913 text (read Catholic Encyclopedia). You can safely put back the material you've removed which originated from the Catholic Encyclopedia.
See also,
]- Hmm I guess that was a false alert, thanks for the heads up. chi?11:18, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
August
Jtkiefer's RFA
Hi, とある白い猫/Archive/2005. Thank for supporting my RFA! Even though I did not get a consensus vote of approval I have learned a lot by reading the comments provided by my peers and appreciate your support. Thanks again.
----- 04:42, August 3, 2005 (UTC)Jtkiefer's RFA
Coolcat, thank you for supporting me, I appreciate it. ----- 04:51, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
kmccoy's RFA
Coolcat, thanks for your support on my RFA. Once I get a better internet connection, I'll use your IRC bot to help EXTERMINATE. :) kmccoy (talk) 04:44, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Couter Vandalism Unit
I don't know how much RC patroling you do, I noticed you reverting a few vandals, so here it goes... You may find my bot on irc.freenode.net #en.wikipedia.vandalism intriguing. Feel free to use/try it.
- I do very little, but I like to be aware of things, so I'll check it out. Thanks! --Jimbo Wales 11:04, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
- Your white list ide (irc) is nice and not hard to implement. Who could provide me such a whitelist? Also can do a blacklist. :) chi?17:21, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
- Your white list ide (irc) is nice and not hard to implement. Who could provide me such a whitelist? Also can do a blacklist. :)
Article writing
I'm sorry you feel you can't do this anymore -- I don't know you very well, but from what I've seen you do important work in neglected areas. I don't know anything about Kurdistan (well...very little), so I'm afraid I can't be of much assistance, but I hope a time will come soon when you can go back to article writing. Even if you do present a POV (not surprising if true -- we all have a bias, although I think many of us do our best not to let it guide us), I can't believe it's in Wikipedia's best interest for people to harass you into silence -- we need all the help we can get, and from what I've seen, you tend to be polite and clear on talk pages, which I think should allow anyone who disagrees with your edits to work things out through compromise. In short, I'm sorry you feel frustrated. Let me know if ever I can be of assistance. Jwrosenzweig 01:22, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Barnstar
I am giving you this barnstar to let you know that I too feel your Wikistress. Take care, D. J. Bracey (talk) 00:59, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
If you're not an adm. I'll be glad to nominate you. D. J. Bracey (talk) 00:59, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- No, I am no admin. This is the first time someone suggested nommination. I do not want to self nominate but do not object to any nominations. :) chi?13:37, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Japanese war atrocities
Do you think the POV and cleanup tags are still needed at
- The tag was removed long ago. Maybe the article title can be improved to (by moving) chi?19:09, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Meanwhile I'll review the page. chi?19:09, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for spam... I notice you added a test note...
I am currently in discussions with Ozemail regarding persistent vandalism that has been occuring from the following IP addresses in their network:
- 203.166.96.234 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.96.235 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.96.236 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.96.237 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.96.238 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.96.239 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.96.240 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.99.246 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.99.247 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
- 203.166.99.252 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)
I need assistance with all the specific items of vandalism. I have setup a page to gather this evidence at User:Ta bu shi da yu/Ozemail.
I need your help! Please use the format:
- 13:30, 5 August 2005
- Added abusive text to Ta bu shi da yu user page
We'll see just how good their service is at responding to this sort of thing - we should be supporting any company that assists us. Therefore, I'm hoping that the Wikipedia spirit of cooperation and immense amount of volunteers will help with tracking down vandal edits.
If Ozemail gives a good response, we can use them as an example of a good ISP, and maybe even shame AOL into assisting us (we get lots of vandalism from them).
Ta bu shi da yu 01:51, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- I did read a similar note on the Ips' userpage. I am not sure if the ISP believes they are resposible of their users actions... A responsible ISP is. If all ISPs were responsible no such thing as spam would ever exist. I am just pessimistic. :( chi?10:13, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Nomination
You're nominated. Except proposal here [[12]]. Take care, D. J. Bracey (talk) 04:21, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Scout ranks
Just wondering if you were going to expand on the Boy Scouts of America rank pages you created. It seems like if you intended them to stay the way they are now, a list would have been better. Why have 6-7 pages when one would do? Dismas 20:22, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- Well, being a scout myself rank insignias and rank itself has deep meaning and requirements. I think they each can be a page as there is enough material. I am trying to write uniform articles. Eagle rank was writtrn before I starte dthis. Currently I am working on images. chi?20:26, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- I was a Scout in days past, made Eagle too, so I understand what you mean about the personal meaning. I was just curious if you intended to expand them. I just didn't see the point if they were basically just image placeholders. If you want any help with anything, let me know. Dismas 20:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- We can work together to write about the rank isings and ranks. It has been a while I had been a scout. :/ chi?20:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- We can work together to write about the rank isings and ranks. It has been a while I had been a scout. :/
- Each will not be any longer than the eagle scout page I think (of course the longer the better). chi?20:44, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- Each will not be any longer than the eagle scout page I think (of course the longer the better).
Rename Coolcat -> Cool_Cat
I would love to have this minor adjustment :)
Renaming
I'm renaming you right now, just so you know. Pakaran 00:06, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, User:Cool Cat already exists... is there another name you'd prefer? Pakaran 00:07, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- That's my second account, sockpuppet. Which I was going to use for a bot but havent yet. chi?00:53, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- That's my second account, sockpuppet. Which I was going to use for a bot but havent yet.
Re:Nomination
I'm sorry that the nomination did not work well for you. I went on ahead and decided to put in the RfA because you had stated "I don't reject to any nominations." I hope everything works out well for you in the future. Take care, D. J. Bracey (talk) 22:32, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- Well was a bold nice attempt. Too many people hate me and not enough people love me. Half of the votes were rather impolite IMHO. chi?22:47, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- I am glad you are taking the situation well. D. J. Bracey (talk) 22:54, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Tznkai
Did you ask his permission before making the adminship nomination? SlimVirgin (talk) 02:37, August 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, on IRC chi?04:18, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
- Okay thanks, Coolcat. SlimVirgin (talk) 05:48, August 11, 2005 (UTC)
WP:SUCKS
What is the point of this redirect? Dmn € Դմն 13:21, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
- BJODN , just on IRC people referance this nono existent page abusively ;). WP doesnot suck :P hence the NOT in rempte article :) chi?14:42, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Func's RfA :)
Coolcat, I appreciated your vote for my adminship, thank you.
Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.
Func( t, c, e, ) 18:47, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Your behavior
Your behavior is unacceptable. Continued disruption will result in a permanent ban. Eyeon 13:22, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
- Amusing. chi?13:28, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Star Wars
I am terribly sorry if I did not follow the correct procedure. However, I did not commit any vandalism, and I added an edit summary, just like you requested. Yet you still took my edits as vandalism. Anyway, what do I need to do to suggest a larger change of any page, before doing so? Because I do believe the Star Wars page needs lots of edits and better organization. --E.P.I.C. 22:23, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry, I just saw too much info removed. You may want to post changes in talk and discuss with other editors. Introducing Star wars to chi?22:28, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- I apologise for falsely accusing. chi?22:28, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
By 'talk' I presume you mean using the discussion page of the 'Star Wars' article, right? Don't worry, you are doing your job. --E.P.I.C. 22:33, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. Talk page of article is the discussion page. :) chi?22:39, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Very well, thank you for guiding me. I promise it'll be the last time. Now I must go sleep... --E.P.I.C. 23:02, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- You did nothing wrong. Aside from adding star wars to chi?23:28, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
You may want to do an RFC on the article title for
]Karl Meier
Hey Coolcat, I was wondering that if I made another RFC for Karl/Stereotek, would you endorse it? It seems that we have both been victims of his wikistalking.Heraclius 17:13, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- I may, I have to investigate the nature of your dispute, do understand I have to be very careful or I will only give Stereotek an excuse to stalk further. chi?17:19, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- It's not that we have a "dispute" per se. Karl has an anti-Islamic point of view and there's nothing wrong with that. However, he seems to target people that don't agree with his POV. Also, I don't think you need to worry about him stalking you more. He seems to have chosen me as his next "target".Heraclius 17:22, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Ataturk
Yes, i responded. I was trying to say that any accusation of Ataturk in connection with an Armenian genocide is so baseless that it doesn't even warrant attention.--E.A 19:31, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for the articles
Coolcat,
Thank a lot for your contributions. I ended up in wikipedia during an article search in Washington Post, and ended up spending half my workday going through articles.
The information that you provided on GAP project was very insightful. I am a Turkish Citizen, and I have learned some details that I didn't know. Especially, I was not aware at all that this was a big conspiracy to destroy Kurdish Villages in the region. ;o) Thanks again and best regards,
Murat Kutlug. [email protected] - 17:05, 22 August 2005
- Well, I worked at the dam project, I am also unaware of such a conspiracy. Apperantly the conspiracy theory originated from the UK. chi?16:48, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Wow one hell of an archive, you do realise thats over 2.5 megs rite?! :)
- Well, the page was over 341 KB, and I kept getting into edit conflicts while trying to archive stuff, so I figure we can just split the archive into separate ones instead of trying to edit from the talk page which is constantly changing. Sound fine? --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 16:41, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- I have no objections it just 2.5 megs is crazy! :) chi?16:43, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- There, I trimmed them down some. I think they are now 97KB, 83KB, and 76KB, or something close like that. Hopefully you aren't asking for more division. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 16:56, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- I wasn't asking for anything, just commented on a long overdue archive... O_O;; chi?16:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- I wasn't asking for anything, just commented on a long overdue archive... O_O;;
- There, I trimmed them down some. I think they are now 97KB, 83KB, and 76KB, or something close like that. Hopefully you aren't asking for more division. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 16:56, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- I have no objections it just 2.5 megs is crazy! :)
So I was going through the George W. Bush archives and found something you might find interesting. Check out the length of Talk:George W. Bush/Archive 17. Now that is a long overdue archive. Cheers. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 14:59, 24 August 2005 (UTC) Oh, and Talk:George W. Bush/Archive 18 used to be a part of it but was split into a new archive. Understandable. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 15:04, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiDefcon
Well, it looks better than my shameless ripoff of the Wikistress thermometer :) User:Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 02:17, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Re: Code
Thanks for that script code. I'll try it out at some point. Much appreciated. Rob Church Talk | Desk 22:42, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
What do you mean?
The sock puppet string was back in June. Oh, they took care of it, quite well. I'm done, as they threatened me with a year-long ban. They are VERY aware of what I have done. I caused them to rethink their policies on vandalism. What is your concern with it, by the way? Adamwankenobi 02:18, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
- If you are bragging about sockpuppetary you are less then aware of anything or choose to ignore it. I dont threaten people, I just do it. chi?02:20, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
- Specify. Adamwankenobi 02:23, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
template:vandal1
Hi, I'm just letting you know that I'm nominating this template for deletion, because I feel it to be redundant with tests 1-3, can be considered "biting the newbies", and causes confusion when someone clicks the section edit link. Feel free to weigh in on the TFD. --Blu Aardvark | (talk) | (contribs) 04:31, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
- I see. Fine, how ever dont mark it for deletation istead redirect to chi?15:12, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Jtkiefer's RFA
Thanks for your support on my RFA. ----- 05:04, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
- templates substituted by a bot as per Wikipedia:Template substitution Pegasusbot 08:02, 26 March 2006 (UTC)]
September
I reverted your conversion of this article into a manga article; that is not an obvious primary topic, especially as this manga character is obviously in some way derived from the Norse mythological figure. I moved the manga content to Skuld (manga). Please note that, when you cut-and-paste stuff, you have to note in the edit comment where it came from. Destroying edit history for some parts can't be helped when an article is split, but it has to be made clear where the content was fetched. u p p l a n d 08:22, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
- I see. Have you fixed "what links here" links? -- chi?13:05, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
- I posted that without reading the change. While I agree that anime is not more significant than the mythological char, I do believe the two mithological entities need to be separated from each other in separate pages. I reverted and moved chi?13:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
- I posted that without reading the change. While I agree that anime is not more significant than the mythological char, I do believe the two mithological entities need to be separated from each other in separate pages. I reverted and moved
- I'm fine with that, except that "Norse mythology" and "Scandinavian mythology" probably isn't enough to disambiguate, but that can easily be fixed later through a move. I also think the edit history primarily belongs with the mythology, but I don't care enough to wage an edit/revert war about it. u p p l a n d 14:01, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
- Umm I just noticed the anime serries and mithology is fused quite well. I ask for your assistance to separate and link the mithology chars and anime chars properly. (see: chi?14:06, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
- Umm I just noticed the anime serries and mithology is fused quite well. I ask for your assistance to separate and link the mithology chars and anime chars properly. (see:
- I am of the basic conviction that the mythological topics should in most cases have primacy when everything else is derived from them. I can concede cases like the planets Jupiter and Saturn, but it is much less obvious with Venus, considering how many Venuses there have been in art in the post-classical period, and I don't think pop culture like cartoons, which may be very short-lived, should be allowed to take over. When it comes to the details of how to separate the topics, I think it is better for you - in the case of Norse topics - to discuss this with Wiglaf and Haukurth who work on this stuff. u p p l a n d 21:03, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
- I kinda agree, but I don't think it hurts to keep tem as disambiguations. Since multiple referances aren't uncomon often even in Mythology. --Cool Cat Talk 21:48, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Code for !calc
alias calcorg { if $chan = $null { %origin = $nick } else { %origin = $chan } }
on 1:TEXT:!calc*:*:{ calcorg msg %origin $nick $+ , $2- = $calc($2-) }
Can you help me set this up?
I like your Wiki-Defcom system and i was wondering if you can tell me how to set it up on mine. Please reply in my talk page if you can so i can be notified.--Dynamo_ace 15:42, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
- Sure, all one needs to to use the template: {{wdefcon}}. I'll do this for you. --Cool Cat Talk 16:00, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I will add it to my persnol page as well.--Dynamo_ace 16:38, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
What are YOU doing?
Valkyrie can mean a number of things please observe proper disambiguation. --Cool Cat Talk 17:28, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
- Note that the basic meaning of Valkyrie is supposed to be the main article.--Wiglaf 17:30, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
- Valkyrie can mean a number of things. I see the aircraft more significant than the mithological char. --Cool Cat Talk 17:33, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
- If you consider the aircraft meaning to be more significant, I suggest that you post your request at WP:RM.--Wiglaf 17:37, 9 September 2005 (UTC)]
- If you consider the aircraft meaning to be more significant, I suggest that you post your request at
- As you wish. --Cool Cat Talk 17:53, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Coolcat!
So, what are your opinions on anal sex?
James (200.185.244.97 (talk • contribs))
- I do not hold opinions on Anal sex. --Cool Cat Talk 23:33, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
lunch
Laters, I'm off to lunch. Davenbelle 04:59, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
#en.wikipedia.vandalism
Perhaps when you implement your bot to track the wikidefcon and update the template, you could also make it update the channel topic. Then we'd have a #en.wikipedia.warroom :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 17:31, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- I plan to do that, sorry for the late response. --Cool Cat Talk 10:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
The Turkish identity + Orhan Pamuk
Laters, Davenbelle 07:28, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Please explain yourself rather than spamming my userspace with links. --Cool Cat Talk 11:57, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- One of Turkey's biggest obstacles in dealing with the West is the way it chooses to patrol its own history. — Davenbelle 12:08, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Interesting point of view. Coming from the west that arrests people who suggest Armenian Genocide is false (Swiss incident). I also do not see the importance if this comment warranting my atention on wikipedia. --Cool Cat Talk 12:24, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I am not interested in biased websites, spesifically when it comes to the alleged Armenian Genocide. If I want them, I can google for them. And frankly I cannot comprihend your obession with one historic article, it is just an article... --Cool Cat Talk 12:57, 15 September 2005 (UTC)]
- Thanks, but I am not interested in biased websites, spesifically when it comes to the alleged
Please accept my apologies for thinking that you where just deleting the "Popular culture", when you where in fact moving it, later. When I looked at it the section had just been deleted, and no content had been added to the disambiguation page. That to me seemed very, very strange, so that was why I reverted. I agree with what you have done now though. -- Karl Meier 08:14, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
- No biggie, stuff hapens, servers are annoyingly slow anyways. --Cool Cat Talk 08:26, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
- This incident changed my view on you. While I don't expect you to trust me or believe me in anyway I think we can coexist. Also please read link below fully and completely on how I interprete this whole incident. Feel free to "talk" to me directly on my talk page. --Cool Cat Talk 11:23, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal is here to help
Hi Cool Cat. I've picked up your complaint at from
]- Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Davenbelle and Stereotek
- Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/Evidence
- Also note: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/Proposed decision
- Karl Meier (Stereotek) have recently apologised for an error of his, in an assume goof faith environment I have taken it as a sincere apology but I dont want to be as gullable as Belldandy as at this point as I cant afford it. This was the first real communication I have ever recieved from him so it is exciting for me. --Cool Cat Talk 19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
- Davenbelle is plainly beyond reason. Check his past 3000 edits., how often does he revert me or opose me. See very reacent Soultheaster Anatolia Project issue of moving material around. Generally in distant past Davenbelle and Stereotek have activeley revert ward against me together, sometimes for image sizes. He has a history of making his only edit in days in a vote to opposing me and ironicaly citing ]
- I do not hold revenge against people all I care is them leaveing me and others on wikipedia alone and stop "policing" policies based on how they interprete them. --Cool Cat Talk 19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
- Hey there Cool Cat. I've looked into it, and I offer some advice for all involved at ]
Pending ArbCom Decision
I would like to suggest that if you want Karl and I to leave you some space and let others monitor your editing per the proposed decision that you agree to immediately cease editing articles related or referring to Turks, Kurds, or Armenians per the same decision. If you will agree to abide by all the proposed remedies starting now, I will too, and I will also leave the Turkish, Kurdsish and Armenian articles to others. I would also ask that you interpret the decision to include the article talk pages. — Davenbelle 02:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Davenbelles above comment. If you agree to immediately cease editing articles related or referring to Turks, Kurds, or Armenians per ArbCom proposed decision, I will also leave the Turkish, Kurdish and Armenian articles to other editors, and let others monitor your editing, starting now. -- Karl Meier 08:20, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
- Firstly realise that no one supports your behavior, you are dead wrong. You are in no condition to make demands (Especially you Davenbelle). Davenbelle already has a restriction on wikipedia in a much greater scale than I am proposed and my case isn't even closed. Kemal Ataturkis a politician and hence politics. Your behavior (esspecialy Davenbelle) alienates users from wikipedia. No arbitrator will support anything that alienates users from wikipedia. While I do try to steer away from controversial topics (infact at least since the start of the arbcom hearing I haven't made any truly controversial edits), I will not "leave" the articles just yet.
- My edits on Kemal Ataturkbasically reorganised the page. And removal of original research and heavy nationalistic TURKISH pov (no one objected).
- My edits on Kurdish peopleesspecialy had comunity support. No one on IRC objects comenting out or complete removal uncited information (or move to talk). Uncited information does not belong to wikipedia, and I have at least an arbcom member (not involved with the case) agreeing with me personaly but does not want to get involved directly.
- My edits on
- An arbcom meber hearing our case explained me that the first few restrictionsa are not "bad" since they apply to all users anyways. Lets be honest, Davenbelle you interfered with every mediation atempt I made, even on topics not relaeted to Kurds Turks and Armenians such as the Solano guy an Nanking thing. I'd like to remind you what you were revert waring against me on nanking: Image sizes. Both arbitrators I talked to find it ridiclous. Prohibation is a funny thing, no admin would block me for my edit on Kurdish peoplefor example. The onther remedy is bannng me off of articles related to Turks, Kurds, and Armenians, this does not mean that I am blocked from lets say GAP.
- If you do not leave me alone, you will only provide me fresh evidence and you are welcome to do so. I'd rather wish you leave me alone. I already pulled my finger from the trigger, I suggest you do the same. If you feel I make a bad edit, then discuss matters starting on the article talk page and mention it here (so I know about it as I do not monitor you) or present it directly in Arbcom, USE the community. If you can't get community support realise my edit may not be as bad as you think it is. --Cool Cat Talk 10:53, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
- Firstly realise that no one supports your behavior, you are dead wrong. You are in no condition to make demands (Especially you Davenbelle). Davenbelle already has a restriction on wikipedia in a much greater scale than I am proposed and my case isn't even closed.
Too bad — however the case will close soon enough and you will be expected to abide by the restrictions imposed on you. — Davenbelle 04:43, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Dont be so sure, also its only a temporary restriction for me while is indefunate for you. --Cool Cat Talk 15:40, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
3RR violation
This is to notify you that,
MEDITATION
This question is open to all users. Please feel free to answer. Do you, or have you ever, meditated? I do when, I am stressed or mad. And, yes, it does help.
I have tips for better meditation. Here they are:
- Find a QUIET place.
- Adjust the lights and temerature to your liking.
- You can meditate SILENTLY, or WITH MUSIC.
- Meditation can occur, ALONE or IN A GROUP.
- Meditation time should NOT be RESTRICTED.
- It helps to RECORD, what you SEE, and HEAR, during meditation.
- Wear UNRESTRICTIVE clothing (LOOSE clothes, NO glasses, and NO shoes).
- SIT or LAY DOWN.
- Inhale SLOWLY.
- RELAX your body.
--—Preceding unsigned comment added by C2 aaron (talk • contribs)
- Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Do you mind if I ask what propted the desire to pass such an information? --Cool Cat Talk 14:41, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
I just got that info off of: www.crystalinks.com.
Plus, meditation helps me, and I figured it might help someone else.
Was it a good article? How much, work do I have to do?
Thanks, for the welcome.
Well, gotta go!
-C2 aaron 15:04, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. --Cool Cat Talk 15:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Was it a good article?
- And, why do you act so, secretive? - C2 aaron 15:44, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- I am not sure which article you are referincing to, I do not see you writing one.
- I act secretively because I believe in a need to know basis. Since knowing my true identity serves to no purpose on wikipedia, I have no reason to reveal it. Nothing personal. --Cool Cat Talk 15:51, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
i think he is stupid. what aboutyou?
--snoop 16:50, 15 September 2005 (UTC)justintmartin
- I do not hold views regarding Marilyn Manson's intelligence. --Cool Cat Talk 17:26, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Do you know this sock? --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 20:49, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, Love virus is User:MARMOT's creation apply {{MARMOT}} and block. I am watching it very closely. --Cool Cat Talk 20:52, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I'll apply {{MARMOT}}, but you'll have to block him. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 20:55, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- I already done that, sadly I lack power to block. I did get him blocked though. --Cool Cat Talk 21:25, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I'll apply {{MARMOT}}, but you'll have to block him. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 20:55, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Are you not an admin? Did you used to be? I could have sworn you were. If not, is there a reason why? --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 21:34, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- It is unlikely I'll ever be an admin. See: ]
- People make adminship a big deal... :( --Cool Cat Talk 21:57, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well, if it makes you feel any better, you have always been nice to me. Sorry to bring up a subject that has obviously caused you some strife. Try not to let a few people get under your skin. Keep up the good work and people may forgive you in the future. Here, have a cupcake. Cheers. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 22:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, I do not know why some of them are so pissed off (Like blankfaze and dmn)... For now I traget the top of: Wikipedia:List of non-admins with high edit counts, once I have 100,000 edits I guess I may be an admin :P --Cool Cat Talk 22:41, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well, if it makes you feel any better, you have always been nice to me. Sorry to bring up a subject that has obviously caused you some strife. Try not to let a few people get under your skin. Keep up the good work and people may forgive you in the future. Here, have a cupcake. Cheers. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 22:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Are you not an admin? Did you used to be? I could have sworn you were. If not, is there a reason why? --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 21:34, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Bot help
Download the pywikipedia bot framework first.
Set up a user-config.py:
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*- ############## ACCOUNT SETTINGS ############## # The family of sites we are working on. wikipedia.py will import # families/xxx_family.py so if you want to change this variable, # you need to write such a file. family = 'wikipedia' # The language code of the site we're working on. mylang = 'en' # The dictionary usernames should contain a username for each site where you # have a bot account. Please set your usernames by adding such lines to your # user-config.py: # # usernames['wikipedia']['de'] = 'myGermanUsername' # usernames['wiktionary']['en'] = 'myEnglishUsername' # #usernames = {} usernames['wikipedia']['en'] = 'My Bot Name Here' ############## USER INTERFACE SETTINGS ############## # the encoding that's used in the user's console, i.e. how strings are encoded # when they are read by raw_input(). On Windows systems' DOS box, this should # be 'cp850' ('cp437' for older versions). Linux users might try 'iso-8859-1' # or 'utf-8'. If this variable is set to None, the default is 'cp850' on # windows, and iso-8859-1 on other systems console_encoding = None # tkinter isn't yet ready userinterface = 'terminal' # Should the system bell be ringed if the bot expects user input? ring_bell = False
--AllyUnion (talk) 23:50, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Let me get back to you on the weekend. --AllyUnion (talk) 04:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Some python basics:
- import module_name - This imports a module or file into your program, same as #include in C++
- Calling functions from this module would be module.function_name
- You can read more at www.python.org where they have a tutorial.
- The main modules you will be calling are: wikipedia and config
- You'll be calling your programs by the following:
- python <filename>.py
- The extensions for python are typically .py
- .pyc files are compiled versions of the .py that the program is using.
- In order for your bot to log in, you have to call (only once every so month):
- python login.py
- In a clean, separate file, you need at the top:
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*- import wikipedia, config
- In order to create a Page object in which you will use to get and put pages, you have to something like this:
mypage = wikipedia.Page(wikipedia.getSite(), 'User talk:Cool Cat')
- That creates a page object linked to your talk page in the above example.
- To get the wiki text from the page, you'd call (following from the previous example):
mypage.get()
- You can save that data into a variable if you wish. To put a page you do something like this:
mypage.put('New text to replace old text', 'Fill out the comment field in this field.')
- Where "New text" is where you want to replace the existing text, and the second portion is the comment note in the history. Default is something like: "Wikipedia python library"
- If you want to add to the text, do something like this:
mypage.put(mypage.get() + 'Added text here', 'Bot adding text')
- That is all you should need to program your script in Python and get your bot working. I don't believe you need any other function. Oh, also, I made some modifications to wikipedia.py; If you get any errors trying to run the bot, you should apply these changes manually.
- In the file wikipedia.py:
def output(text, decoder = None, colors = [], newline = True): """ Works like print, but uses the encoding used by the user's console (console_encoding in the configuration file) instead of ASCII. If decoder is None, text should be a unicode string. Otherwise it should be encoded in the given encoding. colors is a list of integers, one for each character of text. If a list entry is None, the default color will be used for the character at that position. If newline is True, a linebreak will be added after printing the text. """ if decoder: text = unicode(text, decoder) elif type(text) != type(u''): print "DBG> BUG: Non-unicode passed to wikipedia.output without decoder!" print traceback.print_stack() print "DBG> Attempting to recover, but please report this problem" try: text = unicode(text, 'utf-8') except UnicodeDecodeError: text = unicode(text, 'iso8859-1') if logfile: # save the text in a logfile (will be written in utf-8) logfile.write(text + '\n') logfile.flush() # ui.output(text, colors = colors, newline = newline) print text #def input(question): # return ui.input(question) #def inputChoice(question, answers, hotkeys, default = None): # return ui.inputChoice(question, answers, hotkeys, default)
- If you have anymore questions, don't hestitate to leave a note on my talk page. --AllyUnion (talk) 19:57, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
talk page spam
Quit spamming my talk page with a copy of every bit of dialogue we have on yours. — Davenbelle 03:29, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate? How would you like me to respond? --Cool Cat Talk 03:50, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Just A Question
How do you do what you do? You give answers to questions that do not fully explain. They just let you know what you need to know. Not to pry but, how old are you? You word things like, an adult. I think you may be the most mature, open-minded person I've met on the net. -C2 aaron
- Thank you for your compliments. The trick is to focus on a point rather than try to explain everything related in one go. Unnecessary details generally gets people carried away.
- I prefer to conceal personal information such as age. It is a personal preferance of mine and nothing personal. --Cool Cat Talk 15:19, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Bmicomp's RfA
Well, my RfA has not quite completed yet, but either way, I'd like to thank you for your vote and your support, regardless of the outcome. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 23:39, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- 61 Ayes to 1 Nays and you are concenred about the outcome? Geez... ;) --Cool Cat Talk 23:48, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
User:Coolcat-> User:Cool Cat
You are breaking links doing this "rename." Please cease, at least for now. Should you not, please exercise more care performing this sort of refactoring. — Davenbelle 11:41, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
- Coolcat, I agree with Davenbelle, why don't you just place a redirect with your other alias to your recent one? It really is not Wiki to do that, you are braking links and eating servers memory, just by recopying the same data for such an insignificant edit. I think this can be considered as a misconduct, and is irresponsable. Fadix 04:38, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Because that creates double redirects and slows down servers and causes other problems. The proper procedure is eliminating double redirects. --Cool Cat Talk 09:25, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- It is misconduct to insist on keeping what is wrong. Double redirects are much worse than a few (at worst 10 otherwise I would see it) broken links, which can be fixed instead of reverting 600 double redirects. --Cool Cat Talk 09:27, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I don't see how it is worst to just place a redirect to your other userspace to your current one, then editing bunchs, and braking links and taking server space. As for 600 double redirects, then, just blank your old user space, and place a hyperlink, tellin people that now you are using this user name. I still wonder why is the big deal on changing from Coolcat to Cool Cat, were you trying to hide your misbehavours or what? Fadix 16:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The problem is the extra page load. Have a read of chi?16:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- As for 600 double redirects, then, just blank your old user space, and place a hyperlink, tellin people that now you are using this user name. I still wonder why is the big deal on changing from Coolcat to Cool Cat, were you trying to hide your misbehavours or what? Fadix 16:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC) No idea right. Fadix 16:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Please do not quote people on things they posted on the same chain. It is quite irritating. -- chi?17:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I will, when it fits. You just write here to show you have something to say. I just made a little comment, and you blew it out of proportion. Consider this my last answer about this thing. Fadix 17:53, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Ok be irritating, and tell me it is civil too. I did say please. I did not blow anything out of proportion. I just dont understand why are you making comments regarding wikimedia. The software has an easier time with fewer redirects. -- chi?18:11, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Ok be irritating, and tell me it is civil too. I did say please. I did not blow anything out of proportion. I just dont understand why are you making comments regarding wikimedia. The software has an easier time with fewer redirects. --
- I will, when it fits. You just write here to show you have something to say. I just made a little comment, and you blew it out of proportion. Consider this my last answer about this thing. Fadix 17:53, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Please do not quote people on things they posted on the same chain. It is quite irritating. --
- As for 600 double redirects, then, just blank your old user space, and place a hyperlink, tellin people that now you are using this user name. I still wonder why is the big deal on changing from Coolcat to Cool Cat, were you trying to hide your misbehavours or what? Fadix 16:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC) No idea right. Fadix 16:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The problem is the extra page load. Have a read of
- I don't see how it is worst to just place a redirect to your other userspace to your current one, then editing bunchs, and braking links and taking server space. As for 600 double redirects, then, just blank your old user space, and place a hyperlink, tellin people that now you are using this user name. I still wonder why is the big deal on changing from Coolcat to Cool Cat, were you trying to hide your misbehavours or what? Fadix 16:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
JUST TALK
HEY, WHAT'S UP? HAVE YOU BEEN TO MY PAGE LATELY?
IF YOU LISTEN TO MUSIC, YOU SHOULD GIVE ME YOUR OPINION ON THE SONGS I'VE GOT LISTED ON MY PAGE.
DO YOU EVER WRITE FEMALES? WELL, G2G!
- Aside from rap, folk, and country I listen to a wide variaty of gernes. I prefer the softer kind though I do like peices such as RA-Hell March.
- I write to wikipedia users without concentrating on their gender. I dont cyber if thats what you mean. -- chi?13:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Wikicrime
A wikicrime is an act that deliberately and seriously hurts the object of creating
A wikicrime can be, among others,
- deliberately, article.
- deliberately inserting information that the contributor knows or believes to be untrue, especially if stated as if it were factual.
- deliberately, knowingly inserting contents that have a very strong advertisements, or propaganda while the context suggests the inserted contents are Neutral Point of View.
— Davenbelle 05:01, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- I am well aware of wikipedia policies, again please dont post material you coppied from wikipedia if you are not going to explain it. -- chi?12:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
No version protection
Just wanted to make you aware of a proposal at
]Looking For Faylian Origin
Dear page, I am a Faylia Kurdish girl from Iraq. I don't understand the real origin of us.I asked a lot, but people were answering me from there memory ,or as they have heared. So, I can't trust there answer, because there is no book to explain the Faylia Kurd. So, if anyone can guide me to a book I will be very thankful.
- Yours,
- Wassan Bahjat
- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.255.224.150 (talk • contribs)
- It is a hard question actually. Kurds have been nomadic people until recent times and hence did not keep archives. There are a number of reasons why it is very hard for us to establish their origin.
- Kurds were exposed to a great deal of external cultural and genetic influence. They have generally lived in isolation from the rest of the world with minimum communication.
- As you may well know there are 4 major sub cultures of kurdish culture which are quite distant from each other. Infact it is quite hard to find referances to "Kurds" rather than to the 4-sub cultures on historic documentations. Furthermore It becomes harder to identify the origins of individual sub-cultures due to a number of civil disturbances we obesrved in the region.
- So I am not certain if I or anyone is qulaified to answer your question. I would love to guide you a book, but there are a number of them disputing each other.
- -- chi?13:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- I DIDN'T GET MUCH INFO ON FAYLIAN KURDS.IT'S HARD, BUT I GOT THE BASICS. "AL-FAYLIAH" KURDS, PRIMARILY LIVE IN, THE ERMANSHAH, AND ILAM PROVINCES OF, IRAN AND CENTRAL IRAQ. FEYLI IS A PERSID (SIMILAR TO PERSIAN AND LURI) LANGUAGE SPOKEN IN THE KHANAQIN REGION OF IRAQ. FAYLI-SPEAKERS TEND TO CONSIDER THEMSELVES AS KURDS.
- P.S.- USE 4 TILDES (~) TO SIGN YOUR
ARTICLES.*
- Please do not answer to questions poised at me in my talk page. -- chi?13:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Please do not answer to questions poised at me in my talk page. --
SORRY
My bad. The user never signed the question. So, I didn't know where to answer it at.
- No problem. Notice the "history" link on the very top. This can tell you who posted something if it isn't signed. -- chi?14:19, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
NOTICE TO COOL CAT
Please make a section for your evidence and add evidence only in your own section. Please limit your evidence to a maximum 1000 words and 100 diffs, a much shorter, concise presentation is more likely to be effective. Please focus on the issues raised in the complaint and answer and on diffs which illustrate behavior which relates to the issues.
If you disagree with some evidence you see here, please cite the evidence in your own section and provide counter-evidence, or an explanation of why the evidence is misleading. Do not edit within the evidence section of any other user.
Be aware that the Arbitrators may at times rework this page to try to make it more coherent. If you are a participant in the case or a third party, please don't try to refactor the page, let the Arbitrators do it. If you object to evidence which is inserted by other participants or third parties please cite the evidence and voice your objections within your own section of the page. It is especially important to not remove evidence presented by others. If something is put in the wrong place, please leave it for the arbitrators to move.
This is the information at the top of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/Evidence. You have not followed the required practice. This results in a very confusing evidence page where nothing can be found or followed easily. Fred Bauder 15:55, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- MOVED. I apollogise for this. -- chi?16:46, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Can you invent a template?
I need a template that states that the article has been heavly vandlisied. I had been watching an article and some vandel started to dilibratelty cause spelling mistakes and generally downgrade the quility of the article. If you can, can you build also a varient that states that there may still be errors in the article caused by the vandel. Sorry for asking this, i can't program wiki templates like you can.Post your answer on my talk page please.--Dynamo_ace 19:14, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Actualuy I already have: {{chi?19:49, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Any reasons why it was deleted? --Dynamo_ace 19:55, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- It was declared "redundant". See: [14] -- chi?20:07, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- It was declared "redundant". See: [14] --
- Any reasons why it was deleted? --Dynamo_ace 19:55, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Damm, oh well, if not many people are going to use it or take notice, then there may be not point in reving the template. --Dynamo_ace 20:25, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Kingturtle, you asked me to redothat on IRC and later you revert me for doing so. You basically made me waiste several hours. Can you PLEASE tell me what the heck is going on? Please also notify me on my talk page. --
Also you removed "Terrebonne" stats from Lousiana. entry. --
I am not pissed ...much... but I thought it look better, I just want to improve meself. --
- coolcat, my specific request in IRC was for someone to change the "Totals" row from 4 columns to 5 columns. this was something i wasn't able to figure out within the confines of the chart that existed. i did not ask for a total overhaul of the chart.
- the States and their totals should appear in the first columns, and then subsets should appear in further columns. i am sorry for the amount of time you spent redoing the chart. can i reimburse you by doing a wikipedia task for you? :)
- P.S. I will add Terrebonne stats right now. thanks for catching that ommission.
- Not just that but the "missing" are missing as well. See katrina toll talk page for a few issues I have with current template. -- chi?21:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Not just that but the "missing" are missing as well. See katrina toll talk page for a few issues I have with current template. --
14 bytes, not 15
#redirect[[A]] is a valid redirect. -- Curps 08:45, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well. Yes. Firstly there should be a space between #redirect and chi?09:52, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- A single letter could easily have a redirect, for instance if we decide that the S-caron article should be a redirect to Š instead of the other way around. A space should be added for clarity, but I've seen redirects that have omitted the space and they work just fine. The bottom line is, you need to set the magic number at 14, not 15, and you need to avoid deleting anything that contains a template even if it's less than 14 characters. -- Curps 10:06, 21 September 2005 (UTC)]
- A single letter could easily have a redirect, for instance if we decide that the
- We have LetterA and AaA), and C has Cee redirecting to it. There are probably many more examples. Other than the first one, these may not be very useful redirects, but that's not for a bot to decide automatically. -- Curps 10:15, 21 September 2005 (UTC)]
- We have
- The bot could read the contents of the page and check for the word "#redirect" and delete if it cant fint it. This could mean size cap can be further increased. -- chi?10:39, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- The bot could read the contents of the page and check for the word "#redirect" and delete if it cant fint it. This could mean size cap can be further increased. --
A Question
Do you know, Dynamo Ace, Carbonite, SlimVirgin, Mike Garcia, *Angel*, or -TeenAngel-? Thanks.
- I do not know any personaly but I have had a level of communication with ]
What level of communication? Is he worth communicating with? Let me rephrase that. Is he pleasant to communicate with?
- He seems to be a reasonable person. I just helped him with a few issues. -- chi?17:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Re: Defcon bot
Error:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "defcon4.py", line 3, in ? mypage = wikipedia.page(wikipedia.getSite(), 'Template:Wdefcon') AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'page'
--
- Everything in Python is case sensitive. If you changed it to wikipedia.Page it should fix your bug. --AllyUnion (talk) 21:18, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- I did that the updated code is @ User:Cool Cat/Counter Vandalism Unit/defcon4.py. I still get the same error message.
Error:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "defcon4.py", line 3, in ? mypage = wikipedia.page(wikipedia.getSite(), 'Template:Wdefcon') AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'page'
--
Light bulb
Hey Cool Cat, we had this discussion on IRC some time back. Edison didn't invent the light bulb (though he did try pretty hard), and you said you'd change you page! (That said, there's no obligation for your user page to be accurate I suppose) Cheers, Cdyson37 | (Talk) 23:06, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Oh right. Ill fix it -- chi?01:09, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
The Big W!!!
Actually, it's a vandal who's posting george bush pictures on user pages, but going just by the single username it was a good guess :-) --fvw* 00:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Likely marmot, we are watching him closely on IRC, care to tag along? We got virtual coke and popcorn. -- chi?01:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Re: vandalism
What are you going on about? I didn't vandalise a single page. I would appreciate it if you could provide evidence of me vandalising. Otherwise, it's called false accusation. --Miborovsky 01:44, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- OK you just accused me further. I don't want to escalate this, but you are forcing my hand. --Miborovsky 01:46, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Why don't you spend some time to read the discussion before accusing me? HUH? See the talkpage and the history. --Miborovsky 01:47, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Good. I truly hope that was just an honest mistake. --Miborovsky 01:49, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- I just innitialy saw someone deleteing pages and pages of stuff. We have hightened level of vandalism on lots of articles. I sincerely am sorry for all of this, I issued your party a warning and issued a notice to ANB. -- chi?01:57, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- OK then it's just a misunderstanding. Sorry for getting fired up. --Miborovsky 02:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- I just innitialy saw someone deleteing pages and pages of stuff. We have hightened level of vandalism on lots of articles. I sincerely am sorry for all of this, I issued your party a warning and issued a notice to ANB. --
- Good. I truly hope that was just an honest mistake. --Miborovsky 01:49, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Why don't you spend some time to read the discussion before accusing me? HUH? See the talkpage and the history. --Miborovsky 01:47, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Defcon bot
Try this: User:Cool Cat/Counter Vandalism Unit/defcon.py. It's one file. --AllyUnion (talk) 19:50, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
...\wiki\Python24>python.exe defcon.py 4 Traceback (most recent call last): File "defcon.py", line 28, in ? mypage = wikipedia.Page(wikipedia.getSite(), 'Template:Wdefcon') AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Page'
- Still same error about "page" -- chi?19:56, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Um... you are downloading the entire pywikipedia framework, then merging the changes into the file called wikipedia.py right? --AllyUnion (talk) 21:20, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- I do not know exactly what do you mean. Can you mail me the wikipedia.py file I should use, I am using the short code you gave me. -- chi?21:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- I do not know exactly what do you mean. Can you mail me the wikipedia.py file I should use, I am using the short code you gave me. --
- Um... you are downloading the entire pywikipedia framework, then merging the changes into the file called wikipedia.py right? --AllyUnion (talk) 21:20, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Pywikipedia framework
See: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pywikipediabot/snapshot-20050825.zip?download --AllyUnion (talk) 04:33, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Wikistress
I really like all of the images you uploaded. Is it possible to change the format from a "voltmeter" (-10 to + 10) to a speedometer look so that all one needs to adjust is a number. ;) Its a thought :P --
- It's a wikimood, not wikistress. There's a difference. And I don't know what you mean by "speedometer look". Denelson83 19:56, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- OK wikimood, a speedometer look would be wiimood level starting from 0 to 20 staying positive. -- chi?20:08, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- OK wikimood, a speedometer look would be wiimood level starting from 0 to 20 staying positive. --
- That would defeat the fundamental purpose of the wikimood. Wikimood values are supposed to be positive or negative. Denelson83 20:20, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- Go right ahead. Denelson83 21:04, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
RickK anti-vandalism barnstar!
Thank you! --
Davenbelle up to his old tricks
I'm disgusted at this. Words fail me. --Tony SidawayTalk 09:58, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. -- chi?11:34, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Barn Stars?
How do you do barn stars? How do you get them to show up on, a page? C2 aaron 13:58, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- People are awarded barnstars in recognition for their exceptional contribution on a field.
- A list of barnstarts is avalible at: Wikipedia:Barnstars on Wikipedia
- -- chi?14:10, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
it.translation
I've translated some parts of the text for #it.wikipedia.vandalism I missed the first time :-) Ciao --Civvi 20:56, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
NPA
Please keep in mind
- Oops, you were repeating someone else. Still not the best of ideas, but it doesn't merit an NPA warning :-). Happy editing! --fvw* 02:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- I do not think I should be any politer to people repetively vandalising my own userpage. RCP can get stressful you know. -- chi?13:39, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- If you can't handle recent changes patrol without violating our basic civility policies perhaps you should turn your efforts to a more gentle aspect of wikipedia. --fvw* 14:13, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- Excuse me, please block me immidiately if I am being uncivil to vandals then. This makes little sense. -- chi?15:02, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
- Excuse me, please block me immidiately if I am being uncivil to vandals then. This makes little sense. --
- If you can't handle recent changes patrol without violating our basic civility policies perhaps you should turn your efforts to a more gentle aspect of wikipedia. --fvw* 14:13, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- I do not think I should be any politer to people repetively vandalising my own userpage. RCP can get stressful you know. --
en.wikipedia.vandalism
For not letting problems decrease your devotion to keeping this site going. Know that you and your work are appreciated. -- Essjay · Talk 00:55, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. :) -- chi?01:10, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Counter Vandalism Unit
Just recording what I already said to you on IRC: CTU.jpg is copyrighted, so you can't derive anything off that, but using the general idea of it seems ok to me. If the logo is just to be used on Wikipedia, such as on the User:Cool Cat/Counter Vandalism Unit page, then I don't think this would be a legal issue. There were no objections from the rest of the board or from juriwiki over Commons:Image:Admin mop.PNG, but you might want to wait and see if there are objections to this one, since there have been in the past over the Research Network logo. Angela. 02:19, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
RfC
Please take a look here when you get a chance.--chris.lawson 04:06, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
using colors to brighten wikipedia...
I answered you here :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthere#Couter_Vandalism_Unit
User:Anthere 02:45, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
WM Barnstar Awared
I, C2 aaron,
award this to Cool Cat. His experience has helped me be a better Wikipedian. |
- Thank you! -- chi?15:21, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- Your welcome. When I said, you helped me become a
better Wikipedian, I meant it. C2 aaron
Thanks on the Missing Barnstar
Thanks for the reminder there. Copyrights on images that are modified into a new image were never my cup of tea. I'm going to make an explainer page by the end of today hopefully so I can finally get that bad boy on the Barnstar page.
Also, after looking at your page above(It looks pretty good), I was wondering if you could give me any tips to finally get to "Expert Wikipedian" status. I feel as though i'm at an intermediate level in a "Wikiplateau" of sorts. Karmafist 17:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I'd harldy call myself an expert :)
- I can recomend usage of subpages. You seem to have a lot of long lists on your userspace. You may want to place them in sub articles. I can do this for you if you like. ;)
- What kind of tips do you have in mind? -- chi?17:56, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well one thing, as sad as it may sound, is pointing me in the right direction towards getting a Free IRC account. I downloaded some program that supposed to work with it called "MaxxIM", but no dice. Karmafist 19:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- You can download [mIRC] (pay) or Chatzilla (free) plugin for firefox. -- chi?20:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- You can download [mIRC] (pay) or Chatzilla (free) plugin for firefox. --
- Well one thing, as sad as it may sound, is pointing me in the right direction towards getting a Free IRC account. I downloaded some program that supposed to work with it called "MaxxIM", but no dice. Karmafist 19:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
It's cool for cats
Hey there. I think Steven M Scharf (aka scharf.steven aka 69.12.152.174) could do with reading your discussion page - especially the bits about not being a dick and not mounting personal crusades :-) ||
- Well, the "Not belong to wikipedia..." is based on wikipedia policies. Applies to all. :)
- I would suggest you to use one account, as multiple accounts tend to cause problems. -- chi?20:31, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
I do only use one account, and I almost invariably remember to sign in. There are several active contributors on this one, at least two of whom are known to me from other contexts.
October
My RfA
Cool Cat-- Thank you for your support on my RfA. And thanks for your concerns about advertising my RfA while doing RC Patrol. I didn't get vandalised quite yet, but will keep that in mind when I pick up on it later. Thanks again. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark)|My RfA 01:16, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Revised the site:
As requested, I revised the site:
Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instances_of_Use_of_United_States_Armed_Forces_Abroad
The last section (Instances of the employment of U.S. military forces abroad: 1991-2004) as it was orginally put up was way, way to wordy, as you mentioned.
I was actually working on it when you made modifications.
Hopefully this site will become obsolete or is already obsolete with a more comprehenive list of "Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad".
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Travb (talk • contribs)
- Hi, on wikipedia we often have a group of people that simply are destructive. I have accidentaly mistaken you for one.
- I have revised your edit(s) [15] and I feel there is a significant amount of information is removed. I am not going to revert it back but I would be more comfortable if you explained it. Also you may want to use edit summary box so other users have a better idea on what you are doing.
- Sorry for the trobble
- -- chi?03:01, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you cool cat for your vigilance. I am really new to wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travb (talk • contribs)
Counter Vandalism Unit
The finished product (right) I think. Looks nice IMHO
- It does not look nice :-) It looks scary :-) From a purely artistic perspective, the final result looks better with the wikipedia logo as it stays in black, white and grey... Right, what do Angela thinks ? Anthere
- Well, the image can be made better if a photoshop freak kinda fixes it to make it look even more professional. But that's an extra. -- chi?14:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Well, the image can be made better if a photoshop freak kinda fixes it to make it look even more professional. But that's an extra. --
Skuld
A user who isn't sure what he's looking for should click on the link to the disambiguation page. But I'm not really that concerned about this case. I can understand your point of view and I don't think it would be a travesty if you had your way here. I'm much more disappointed about the recent move of Baldr. - Haukurth 17:13, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Block self
Bored? :) --
- Nah, just needed to check how exactly the block pages respond for my proxy blocker bot. --fvw* 18:51, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Sweet. Hey can you check proxies on ]
- I'm only scanning for open proxies. Did marmot even use those? If so, hers will be blocked along with everyone else's. --fvw* 19:04, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Have a look at chi?20:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Have a look at
- I'm only scanning for open proxies. Did marmot even use those? If so, hers will be blocked along with everyone else's. --fvw* 19:04, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Sweet. Hey can you check proxies on ]
Vandalism detection bot
Heya, someone just told me your vandalism detection bot also puts all entries in the block log on that channel. You might want to filter out blocks by me or where the reason contains POPBot for the time being, as the bot's making 3 unblocks + blocks a minute, and is going to be doing so for quite a few hours yet. --fvw* 20:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, the bot records those. :) -- chi?20:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Since they are blocked indefinately I do not see a reasn to log them. I have intervined. Thanks for letting me know. Although you already know about ths from IRC -- chi?20:33, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
CVU
Hello, Cool Cat. I was just wondering what the Counter-Vandalism Unit does (besides fighting vandalism, I mean... :-)) What does the bot do, and what does the "rollback" thingie mean? Thanks.
]- The Counter Vandalism Unit is designed to combat vandalism on wikipedia in general. It at the moment operates on 8 more popular languages and meta wiki. The bot serves on IRC and flags potentialy "bad" edits. Users must check the output and determine an action. The bot itself does not take any direct action. Generally 10-20 users are active on #en.wikipedia.vandalism.
- Aside from vandalims the bot detects copy vios as well. This was an unintentional result though.
"rollback" is a function designed for admin only usage. It does not work for non admins. This is because of mediawiki's design.- -- chi?22:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- The rollback thing generates an eyes only url that when clicked on reverts the page without any more hassle. I am not actually sure if it works as so far no one has used it. :) -- chi?22:41, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks! I thought IRC was for chats (I obviously don't have it...) — it can be used to monitor recent changes? ]
- The rollback thing generates an eyes only url that when clicked on reverts the page without any more hassle. I am not actually sure if it works as so far no one has used it. :) --
As I told you before, stay civil with the discussion. Zach (Sound Off) 00:18, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
- I will try really hard. Can you however consider revising the personal attack(s) on that page by fadix. Such as "Get a life" comment. -- chi?01:51, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
- Um, "get a life" is rather mild. I suggest it is better to ignore it than to ask for a revert. Uncle Ed 00:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Toolbar
He Cool, I happend to come across you page and I noticed your toolbar. I really like how it is set up so I stole it and added my links. I am still playing with it to see what I think, but I think it looks really cool. ... That wasn't a pun, I promise! Anyway, thanks for the toolbar. Psy guy (talk) 00:37, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
- Sure. I can actually create one for you if you like. All I need is a list of links :) -- chi?01:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the offer, but, no, I meant that I copied yours and changed the links and colors. It is on my user page now. I was just letting you that I like your and that is were I got the design. By the way, I have been reading about the Counter Vandalism thing. If I ever get IRC, I would like to help y'all out with that. Psy guy (talk) 17:20, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Tool Bar?
How do you do it? Is there a programming code? C2 aaron 16:20, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
- See chi?19:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Creating Pages
How do you create a new topic page (like on one specific subject)? Are you allowed to? C2 aaron
- Easy! Just type between [[ and ]]. Example: type here
- Alternatively you can "Search" for that page as it likely is covered on a title similarly labeld. -- chi?19:52, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Here kitty kitty kitty
Cool: We all miss you in en.wikipedia.vandalism, and we're setting out this milk in the hope it will lure you back... ;-) -- Essjay · Talk 22:36, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
- /me chimes in. Yes, you do great work. Please don't leave us on the hook; we can't even get the CVU working. ;-) JesseW, the juggling janitor22:40, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
- "Woot", "Woot" ! We want vandaltickers! How else are we supposed to know what 68.39.174.238 22:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)]
- "Here, kitty, kitty". I have mouse carcasses too if you're into that stuff, my cats bring those in all the time! I do miss your IRC purrs rolling by! --MJ(☎|@|C) 22:52, 5 October 2005 (UTC).
- Had connection problems. We should be back on trak momentarily. Sorry about this. -- chi?16:03, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
- Had connection problems. We should be back on trak momentarily. Sorry about this. --
Coolcat final decision reached
The arbitration committee has reacheda final decision in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek case. I have suggested to your mentors that you create a page related to your mentorship (suggested location - Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/mentorship). →Raul654 23:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Stress
I've already said my part as a CVU member, but on behalf of Esperanza, have a cup of coffe, and drop by #wp-esperanza for a stress-busting chat. -- Essjay · Talk 02:50, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
How do I officaly sign up? I am not an admin but I remove vandalism
(☺Adam1213☺|talk) 03:04, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
- All you need to do is join #en.wikipedia.vandalism additionaly you can list your username on chi?16:15, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Re: Kakashi
It is a
- Actually compared to Gai he is quite slugish ;) -- chi?00:21, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- That may be true, but I only use Kakashi for one time requests... He's rather lazy, so I don't task him with much work. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:24, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
In the regards of deleting new pages under 14 bytes...
Let me get back to on this one... --AllyUnion (talk) 00:33, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- The only problem I can think of is getting the code for recent changes. Unless you plan to parse that from IRC as well... but that wouldn't necessary make certain you got all the pages. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:36, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- The parsing of IRC is already done. I know exactly when a tiny page is created. -- chi?00:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- 1) I fixed the deletion bug, so I know what's wrong now. 2) Have you ever considered what would happen if the IRC recent changes bot stopped working, yet the Wikipedia is still working? --AllyUnion (talk) 08:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- I forgot to mention that a sysop, like myself, would require to run this program. I'm not particularly fond of the idea of using an IRC script as the mode of getting new articles. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:25, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know. The bot would need adequate powers to delete pages.
- If the irc RC bot its all hell for us. If that hapens we can think of it then but I think thats quite unlikely.
- I do not have to be the one running the bot if people cant trust handing me such power, after all I am not here for power ;)
- -- chi?12:54, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- I forgot to mention that a sysop, like myself, would require to run this program. I'm not particularly fond of the idea of using an IRC script as the mode of getting new articles. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:25, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- 1) I fixed the deletion bug, so I know what's wrong now. 2) Have you ever considered what would happen if the IRC recent changes bot stopped working, yet the Wikipedia is still working? --AllyUnion (talk) 08:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- The parsing of IRC is already done. I know exactly when a tiny page is created. --
Edit summaries
I use edit summaries >99.99% of the time (and I mean that literally). If I missed one it was almost certainly an accident. Which archiving are you referring to, exactly? -Splashtalk 01:21, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- Oh don't be alarmed. chi?01:34, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not particularly alarmed, just annoyed that I missed one when archiving. But I can't see it in TfD's history, nor in my contribs list (for today, at least). -Splashtalk 01:51, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for deleting it
It is much appreciated. Fadix 01:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- I did not get it deleted because of your request or rfc (which I did not care to read). It would probably survive a vote but to my surprise the RfAr was closed. -- chi?14:36, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you. I would also appreciate it you would adjust your contacts list so as to not segregate us under a horizontal rule and highlight us with a unique background colour. This is, I think, a reasonable request, but I will not try and insist on it. Not listing us would be fine, too. — Davenbelle 07:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- I did not delete it because of your request or the RfC (which I did not care to read just like the majority of your comments). I had most of the material presented there in greater detail in the evidence page anyways. Additionaly thanks for stirring up the dispute with Dmn, I am sure that will make wikipedia a better encyclopedia. -- chi?14:33, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- I have no idea who User:Dmn is. We've never communicated. — Davenbelle 09:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
- I did make the adjustments you requested on contacts. -- chi?01:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Alt text for images
I saw a reference to the CVU, and discovered that some of the stuff is really hard to read with images disabled. I won't go on a major cleanup spree, but I did add alt="" to some images in User:Cool_Cat/Counter_Vandalism_Unit/Nav, and I added a big alt="1" to User:Coolcat/Wdefcon_1. I see no easy way to fix the alt text on the flag images in User:Cool_Cat/Counter_Vandalism_Unit/Nav (currently, the images are small but the alt text contains long words, so the spacing looks bad when images are not displayed). —AlanBarrett 17:53, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. I do not know how to fix that and would not object to your or anyone elses help ;) -- chi?21:55, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Unsigned comment
How can i contact you? please send me a message like you did when i modified that page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.97.187.65 (talk • contribs)
- You can reach me on my talk page like you did ;) -- chi?10:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
CVU Polish translation
Here it is. i created Polish translation of CVU bot.
BTW: This bot is on #pl.wikipedia channel, not #pl.wikipedia.vandalism. I think that $remove($chan, .vandalism,$chr(35)) could be cutted to $chan. It is up to you, because with first code will work anyway. Hołek ҉ 10:51, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you! I have applied the changes. -- chi?11:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
IRC computer access
Hey, this is Sasquatch and I am using your IRC vandalism monitoring channel. Here's the thing, I want to add people to the blacklist and what not but I can't because I don't have computer access (Access denied... message). My IRC nick is registered under SasquatchW. Was wondering if you could help. Thanks! Sasquatcht|c 07:08, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- Aw nevermind, adam1213 took care of it. Sasquatcht|c 07:26, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
List of terrorists
What is the nature of the NPOV dispute there? How can it be fixed? -- Beland 03:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- As far as CIA and most of the planet is concerned Osama is a terrosit. As far as Al-quiada members as well as few others he is a hero.
- I think the NPoV would be including which countries and international organisations (such as EU or NATO etc) declare people listed as terrosit. -- chi?15:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Religious Article (Teen Bible Study)
The Teen Bible Study is an article. And, it is appropriate. And, maybe not all of it has been proven correct by "scientists". But, is there any evidence proving the content of the Bible is incorrect? And, in this case, I shouldn't have to cite my source. The title tells the source, and the parentheses do too.
I haven't done anything wrong. I'm not forcing religion on anyone. If, they want to read it, and believe it, good. If not, they don't have to. C2 aaron 16:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- This is not because, we are criticizing your religion. Please, don't take this personal.
- Do realise we have an article on Islam and only few of the material presented can be proven.
- Wikipedia:Cite Sourcesexplains why citing sources is imperative. Few reasons why you need to cite sources:
- To credit a source for providing useful information.
- To provide more information or further reading.
- To enhance the accuracy and credibility of articles.
- To facilitate quick and efficient verification of facts, especially in cases of vandalism.
- To minimise the occurrence of editorial disputes, or assist in resolving those which arise.
- To enhance the overall credibility and authoritative character of Wikipedia.
- To avoid claims of plagiarism or any other forms of intellectual dishonesty.
- -- chi?16:35, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- But, I cited the source. At the end of the article I typed it in parentheses. C2 aaron 16:42, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- What article are we talking about. I do not see you writing an article. If you are talking about the paragraph (Daily Bible Verse section) on your talk page. I don't mind it too much since it is short. Though you may want to place it to your userpage as the user talk page is intended (genraly) for just communication with you. Thanks. -- chi?16:59, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- What article are we talking about. I do not see you writing an article. If you are talking about the paragraph (Daily Bible Verse section) on your talk page. I don't mind it too much since it is short. Though you may want to place it to your userpage as the user talk page is intended (genraly) for just communication with you. Thanks. --
Computer3 bot
Hello, I'm a sysop of English Wikibooks. Is it possible to install your Computer3 bot at Wikibooks and #wikibooks IRC channel? --Derbeth 19:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- Done. Bot is active in #wikibooks-en-vandalism -- chi?17:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Where can I find instructions of using the bot? I see there are whitelisted users and watched pages, where and how are they set? --Derbeth 20:19, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
- Just say "computer help" in channel
The bot at #wikibooks-en-vandalism seems not working - it does not show anything. F.e. bot at #wikipedia-en-vandalism displays a message when an user is blocked - this one not. --Derbeth 10:12, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- Ill investigate at once. -- chi?10:21, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- OK after spending hours on this I located the problem. A typo was causing all the problem, should be resolved. -- chi?15:28, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
My Babel page
Thank you for fixing it so that it doesn't display twice on the category. I didn't know you could do that. --
]More personal attacks by User:Cool Cat
Please see: Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/mentorship#More personal attacks by User:Cool Cat. — Davenbelle 06:15, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- I've reverted this edit pending resolution of this issue with Cool Cat and my fellow mentors. --Tony SidawayTalk 06:35, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
I saw that you tagged this page as {{
Barnstar
For intensive work in uploading images and being a part of the WikiCommunity.
Take care, File:Smilie.gifMolotov File:Caranimationforvmolotov.gif (talk)
17:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you! -- chi?18:18, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Contacts w/fuchsia background again
As you'll recall, we've already discussed your colouring of us in your contacts list: User talk:Coolcat/Archive 2005#Thanks for deleting it — and I see that you've now restored the fuchsia backgrounds [16][17]. You really should cease making provocative edits concerning us; it only serves ill ends. — Davenbelle 05:59, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- I feel it is aproporate. I am not required to comply everything you order me. I am most certainly not the provocative side. We discussed that you were going to leave me alone, and you did not honored that agreement. Hence it is illogical for me to honor any agreement as all agreemens require cooperation from both sides. I have nothing to discuss with you so long as you continue to hound me. -- chi?07:54, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- If you've nothing to talk with me about, why do you feel the need to have me listed as a contact? — Davenbelle 11:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- Interesting argument. I may have to contact you to inform you of a RfAr or RFC for example. Thats not the case at the moment tho. I am not going to bother responding to your userpage as you delete peoples comments as soon as they are posted disallowing threads. -- chi?17:47, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
- Interesting argument. I may have to contact you to inform you of a RfAr or RFC for example. Thats not the case at the moment tho. I am not going to bother responding to your userpage as you delete peoples comments as soon as they are posted disallowing threads. --
- If you've nothing to talk with me about, why do you feel the need to have me listed as a contact? — Davenbelle 11:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Before anyone asks, as one of Cool Cat's three mentors I think it's up to him what color scheme he uses in his own user space. --Tony SidawayTalk 08:01, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- Of course it is; I had made a request earlier. — Davenbelle 11:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- Respond to other peoples comments on their talk page where they can see it, respond to my comments here so I can see it. -- chi?11:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- Respond to other peoples comments on their talk page where they can see it, respond to my comments here so I can see it. --
Award from Dynamo_ace
An Award | ||
For your find of a rare Ah!My goddess! image which you have used to enhance the "value" of the respective arctile. I,Dynamo_ace give you the Minor Barnstar |
- Arigato gozaimashita! {Thank you very much!} -- chi?09:03, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
CVU
Hmm. Looked all over the CVU page, but I didn't see any specific directions on how to jump in. I'm guessing that it may be the same as everywhere else — edit my name into the list and go at it — but I thought I'd ask here first. Got any guidelines? Gracias. Deadsalmon 09:17, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- You may have left out another type of vandalism, namely, repeating text or pics until the article's size is 1 MB, thus overloading the modem of the reader(s) and preventing him/them from opening the page for some time. Jake013 17:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
...hmm, that probably wasn't supposed to go there. At any rate, in response to your message on my talk page, the information on the CVU page is what I had in mind, thanks. Glad you took the initiative on this. Deadsalmon 18:10, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
RE: CVU templates
I've adjusted User:Cool Cat/CVU1-1 and User:Cool Cat/CVU2-1. Are there any others? --Thatdog 09:01, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
- Aye. chi?09:17, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
- Done! --Thatdog 09:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
With the template User:Cool Cat/CVU2-1|wikipedia/en the new one looks better but you cant read the text. --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 10:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- Replied... Thatdog 18:31, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- I've increased the graphic thumbnailing size in the templates from 40px to 43px, which I tested to be the largest possible size that won't break the template size. The text in the ring is still not legible, but then again it wasn't really legible at the original 50px size either. Thatdog 00:34, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- I think the logo itself is in widespread isage now. People know what it stands for just too well ;) -- chi?21:29, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- I think the logo itself is in widespread isage now. People know what it stands for just too well ;) --
Wiki-DefCon adjustment
I think the bot adjusts need to be a little less sensitive, to avoid sudden jumps over multiple levels; just now, it went to WD-1 directly from WD-3 ;-) Kirill Lokshin 19:27, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
What algorithm does the bot use? ~~ N (t/c) 19:34, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
CVU removal
An Award | ||
For tireless service, you are awarded the Resilient Barnstar. Hang in there... --Nlu 22:10, 22 October 2005 (UTC) |
I see that you removed yourself from
- Obviously some people think they can just overload me with more and more stress and expect me to stay calm. I am tried of putting up with constant threats of "oh you just lost your chance of being admin" and other nonsense. Then you have the people trolling/staliking and in addition an arbcom that can barely ask stalkers nicely to leave me alone. It all adds up to this. -- chi?19:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you are feeling stress, Cool Cat. Snowspinner did what he thought was right for the sake of the project; his chief worry seemed to be that wikimedia-derived logos on pages of identified vandals and the like might appear to give board-level sanction to the identification of a vandal, whereas the judgement was made at editor level. In Snowspinner's view, I believe, this has potential legal ramifications. This doesn't reflect personally on you, it's just something that Snowspinner felt was necessary to safeguard the board and thus the project. He was playing it safe in the absence of explicit board-level approval for use in the contexts in which the logos have been used.
- Please don't leave CVU. I know you're much appreciated for your anti-vandal work. --Tony SidawayTalk 20:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- I think there is an issue of proportionality about it, if as you say there was a potential problem in using the logo in that context, then why not replace it with something else and post a polite message explaining it, rather than obliterating the template completely. You know think first, act second. --pgk(talk) 20:56, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- I echo Tony's comments.
- On the other hand, Tony, I do also think that admins and the even-higher-up folks need to be more ready to hand out blocks (and lengthy blocks). There are some vandals who will clearly never write anything useful. They shouldn't be given a short block period and allowed to come back and reoffend repeatedly. Give lengthier blocks -- I am not saying necessarily indefinite, but the blocks need to actually hurt. --Nlu 20:53, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- We're already chasing away too many newcomers. I wish our RC people would be less quick to block except in cases of obvious vandal accounts that do nothing else, and do so quite a lot. --Tony SidawayTalk 21:51, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- Our chief was shot down :( We need him -- (drini's page|☎) 21:59, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Logos
The Board has no policy on this yet, though it is under discussion right now. My latest email on this topic mentioned the logos you'd made (along with many other examples), noting that the CVU logo is now widely in use, with no conclusion from the Board, and that I didn't think it was an issue based on past precedents. No comments were made in response to this to suggest these logos were not ok. I can't give you "Board approval" since the Board has no official logo use policy yet, but I can say no one on the Board has objected to Image:CVU2.PNG. This shouldn't be taken to mean we don't have objections to other modified versions of the logo, especially ones which might suggest an inappropriate relationship with Wikimedia. Angela. 20:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- Please see User talk:Angela#Wikipedia:Counter Vandalism Unit for my later comments on this. Angela. 05:23, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Leaving
I just noticed that you where leaving Wikipedia, Cool Cat. So I though I'd say, good-bye, and good luck with whatever you do in the future. -- Karl Meier 21:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- Arigato gozaimashita, Akuma-san. -- chi?21:45, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- Kan jeg få dig til at gentage det på engelsk? Det her er den engelske Wikipedia, og jeg forstår ikke et ord af hvad du siger.. :-) -- Karl Meier 21:50, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- 否, 私は-- chi?22:08, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- Ella prende las turbinas, No discrimina, No se pierde ni un party de marquesina. A ella le gusta la gasolina. Yuber(talk) 02:58, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- 否, 私は--
- Kan jeg få dig til at gentage det på engelsk? Det her er den engelske Wikipedia, og jeg forstår ikke et ord af hvad du siger.. :-) -- Karl Meier 21:50, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Better luck, elsewhere. — Davenbelle 09:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- Arigato gozaimashita, Akuma-san. -- chi?12:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Reconsider
Order of the Upholders of the Wiki |
This Order is awarded to you for your exceptional and distinguished contributions on wikipedia. --Jcw69 21:35, 22 October 2005 (UTC) |
Cool Cat: I know things are rough right now, and I know you're really stressed. The other CVU members have filled me in on what happened, and I am taken aback at the out-of-process deletion of the CVU images, particularly given that I was the one that uploaded them. Given Angela's comment above, and the fact that I have made numerous images to which the Board has given quasi-sanction, I believe it is entirely appropriate for us to have these images. Perhaps it was a bad idea on our part to include them on the templates, however, that does not provide cover for out of process deletion. (Interestingly, I was the creator of the template as well.) I intend to take the matter up with Snowspinner, and see proper redress; I would greatly appreciate it if you would reconsider leaving and would continue to do the valuable work you do with CVU. You know how much I and the other CVU members appreciate it. -- Essjay · Talk 21:28, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
CC: I know you're still around, and I'm hoping you'll come find me and IRC so we can talk.
If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? And if he finds it, truly, I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine that never went astray.
I have left the ninety and nine and am searching for you on the mountains; the entire CVU waits with great anticipation to rejoice when you are found. -- Essjay · Talk 22:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
CVU Images
Cool Cat, first, please take your well-deserved WikiBreak and come back refreshed. Anyways, I've taken the liberty of removing the CVU image from the WoW, Marmot, and Milk templates because I don't think the logo should be placed on a general vandalism template. It's a (wonderful) Wikipedian organization; however, that doesn't mean it should be placed on the WoWs tag or the Marmot tag. I would recommend creating a new template instead, saying "This user has been identified by the CVU..." or something like that. Hope to see you soon.
]Don't leave
We know getting rid of vandels is a hard and uphill struggle, look at me, i had to repair 6 articles from vandals when wikidefcom 2 was declared for a while and low and behold someone vandalised a page i was watching.
I drop on vandals like a ton of bricks, i hope you come back and do the same. We need good users like you, why not burn some steam at my site's forum.
Just don't give up. Come back and be stronger. --Dynamo_ace 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
maybe this will work
<HomerSimpsonMode>Mmmm... Milk...</HomerSimpsonMode> --Nlu 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
-- Essjay · Talk 23:23, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Quoting RickK
I have personally been ready to leave a couple of times myself, but I guess I have an addiction to the site. Please don't leave use. You really do good work. V/M !
00:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi.
*hugs* User:Purplefeltangel/sig 04:55, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Don't let the actions of others control your life
Jul 02 23:21:30 <Snowspinner> I've slowly come to the conclusion that "don't feed the trolls" is bad advice. Jul 02 23:21:37 <Snowspinner> Feed them. Then they cross the line and you can get rid of them. Jul 02 23:21:44 <Snowspinner> "Trolling for the forces of good," I call it.
When we react emotionally to the actions of others we give them power over us. Ask yourself, should my reaction to someone who I feel has wronged me be to give them control over my life?
In your stay at Wikipedia you will potentially encounter thousands of issues where you disagree with someone and you know your solution would be better. Even if things go your way only half the time, that project is still improved in thousands of ways. I think that alone should make you happy, but only you can decide to allow it. By allowing any issue or any subset of issues to become too important to you, you become vulnerable and risk making yourself unhappy. You already know there will be conflict. You already know that some people will egg you on just to scare you away. You have known these things for a while, at least, and yet you continued contributing. You've shown you can step up to these challenges, so there is no point in quiting now.
I hope you can return and find enough contentment in editing, and ignore the things you dislike and the people who would choose to harm you. --Gmaxwell 06:06, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- Nice IRC logging. Snowspinner 06:22, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Arbcom
I've made an arbcom request regarding the CVU logo issue and your general conduct in the matter. Snowspinner 06:22, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- Snowspinner, "and your general conduct in the matter" is gratuitous. --Nlu 06:32, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- Not really - there are two issues. The first is the usage of the logos, the second is that Cool Cat is again implying official support for something where there is none. Snowspinner 06:43, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- I think it is he really thought he had support... oh well... . Have a rest CoolCat and come back later. Anthere
- Not really - there are two issues. The first is the usage of the logos, the second is that Cool Cat is again implying official support for something where there is none. Snowspinner 06:43, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Some people have said that you are leaving are you? --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 09:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
have a look at http://www.paulsview.com/images/Cat_and_mouse-1.jpg
--☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 11:48, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Impersonator
I just blocked the newly-created account User:CooICat (capital eye instead of ell in the username) as an impersonation of you. If you created that account to prevent it falling into a vandal's hands, sorry for the inconvenience. FreplySpang (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- P.S. There was also a new User:CooI Cat today - Sasquatch zapped that one. FreplySpang (talk) 15:03, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yea, I think that was MARMOT but the user had copied your user page and everything. For a second I was like Cool_Cat's back? but then... no.. but now you are! =) Sasquatcht|c 18:46, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- Nay, I don't think so. There was a vandal a few months ago, in May, called the Doppelganger, who copied user pages and sigs and everything, then posed as the original user and authorized absurd things like AfDs and made obscene remarks and so on. This might be a return. Don Diego 20:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)]
- Nay, I don't think so. There was a vandal a few months ago, in May, called the
- Yea, I think that was MARMOT but the user had copied your user page and everything. For a second I was like Cool_Cat's back? but then... no.. but now you are! =) Sasquatcht|c 18:46, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Ads
Since you oppose the 1-click Answers agreement, I thought you might like to come sign
]I have created and am now using User:UBX/du-1. Which I think puts across a much better and very important message. And doesn't contain a category ;-) - David Gerard 16:51, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
- Arigato gozaimashita, David Gerard-sama. -- chi?13:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Barnstar of revision
I award this award to Cool Cat for show great contributions to protecting and reverting attacks of vandalism on Wikipedia. |
-☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 00:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Channel Access Removed
Jtkiefer removed access for me. I was later give a 2. Can you please fix this up? -☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 00:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Hi Cool Cat. Just cleaned your talk up a touch at the bottom, but that ain't why I'm here. Like to point out that JTK removed Adam's access because of an inappropriate comment Adam made which, as I understand it, caused JTK to worry about Adam's understanding of IRC precedents and of Freenode's guidelines on keeping things cool.
- Incidentally, I'm becoming worried that Adam still isn't getting it. I would love for someone to take him under their wing - hell, I'd do it myself. Can you maybe suggest to him that he needs to read up a few things and get some understanding of the wiki way into his head? If you want, refer him to me for informal mentoring or something; he's a clueless newbie who doesn't need to run into the wrong sort of trouble - we can sort it, no problems. Rob Church Talk | FAHD 01:32, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- It was a joke... and I said that it was one. I never abused the access power that I got. The only time I kicked someone was when you came on with your bot and we were getting double posts and after asking people in the room and they approved I kicked. --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 06:04, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Exactly as Robchurch said. If you would like more clarification on this you know where to find me on IRC :). ]
- Here is what I think: I am not going to get involved directly. I am not going to overule any desicions made as it is not my place. However I will give adam a level 2 access as we know he is definitely not a vandal. This will get him auto-voice as well. Objections? -- chi?16:06, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's a bit irrelevant in some ways, since the use of voicing in the channel has been changed, so admins are normally voiced. (I guess regulars would get voiced if we went moderated). Autovoice has been switched off. (And according to the access list he is still level 2 anyway, just no autovoice for anyone at the moment) --pgk(talk) 16:58, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
A new warning system plugin thing
From cvu talk I just put it there. + made redirect cvu
I have made User:Adam1213/warn I have some ideas on making it work even better with linking from the bot --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 05:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- De-linked warn since it was redirected elsewhere (cross-namespace redirect to user space not considered good). Rob Church Talk | FAHD 19:46, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Warning about imposter
I see that your name was listed as a person who was imperonated. It may have been part of a campaign of intimidation by some editors that have targeted a handful of users whose edits they do not like. FYI- you may want to read this link:
Iago Dali 13:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I am an infrequent target of imperonation actually. Last wave of ]
What's with the link?
Why the small letters? Low self esteem? Don't let those vandals or your RfA get to you, there's still lots of time, then you can beat 'em black and blue when you get your mop and bucket. ;) Hang in there - Don Diego(Talk) 18:59, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
- Oh no, small sig is kawaii (cute). ;)
- Adminship is a distant dream for me. People lack support after RfA's, its only normal to lack support after RfArs. Also some people hold me responsible of RickKs departure. Aside from that I don't recall somewhat sensable excuses for opposes.
- -- chi?14:32, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- I see, I see. Mind if I ask how old you are? I know I'm not in a position to criticize you, but did you notice that your spelling needs improvement? :) No offence. Anyway, it deson't rlaley mtater waht yuor splelnig is lkie, waht marttes is taht the frist and lsat lttres are in the rghit pacle. Cool, eh? ;)^ Don Diego(Talk) 19:14, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
A script I made
I have made a autoit script that reverts an article and warns the user with test3-n|article and signs it. the script compliled rename it .zip and extract you need to be on the difference page and that version may open print. It is currently only IE compaible and you must click ok to the first thing on the diff page and let it go. click the buttons when the page it is on loads. --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 06:40, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
daisy, daisy!
There's a problem with the AE-35 unit, Dave. --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 15:22, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
IRC Bot
How do I use this?
Prodego talk 19:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- The bot has a rather simple color sceme.
- Red is for blanking candidates
- Blue is for giberish candidates
- Pink is for whatched pages (for review)
- Cyan is for copy vio candidates
- Purple is for blocks/unblocks
- Etc Etc...
- While any alert is not automaticaly "bad" it likely is. ;)
- Generally the practice is review diffs (url generated by the bot) and revert if necesary.
- Just tag along on the IRC channel for about 20 minutes and it will make perfect sense.
- I hope this helps -- chi?22:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I should have said, "How I use this, do I install something, all I see is source code?".
Prodego talk 22:21, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- Oh no, just join the IRC channel. You dont need to install a thing (aside from your IRC client) -- chi?22:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- What is the channel?
- #wikipedia-en-vandalism -- chi?23:35, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- #wikipedia-en-vandalism --
Bot
Addition to bot: I don't know how your "wheeler" detection works, if it just looks for a move to "on wheels", but it would be useful to do something similar by watching for the same user to move multiple pages quickly. So, if someone moves a page, the bot watches for that person to move more pages, then labels them a wheeler. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-10-29 18:16
Also, we need a bnu version for article names. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-10-29 19:53
Fair Use images
Your user and talk page spaces contain an image that is tagged as Fair Use. I always hate to be the bearer of bad news on this stuff, but as per copyright (legal) issues on this, we are not allowed to have images classified as fair use on pages not related to the subject, especially on the user space. If you could remove the image (or create a mock up, using legos, or clay, or something), that would be most excellent. Again, I'm sorry I had to do this (I had to remove Image:Cowbell2.jpg), but I'm trying to create a greater encyclopedia. Thanks a lot, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 03:30, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- I think this is an example of chi?09:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but the image I am referring to is Image:Theweakestlinkwho.jpg, on both your talk and user page. It could very well be that I'm paranoid, but I'd just like to make sure there's no infringements. It is not considered fair use to have pictures of unrelated content on a user space. I personally would prefer to be able to use the pictures, but under Fair Use law, we're not allowed. If you want to bring this up with one of the experts at Image Tagging or somewhere, I'm sure that'd be fine. Happy editing, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 19:59, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- I can remove it with a heavy heart but I really am not sure whose copyrights we are violating? Dr.Who? Weakest link? BBC? -- chi?20:54, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Actually I don't need to bother you with it. Ill remove the image and link to the image instead. It was hard to see anyways. -- chi?21:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- I can remove it with a heavy heart but I really am not sure whose copyrights we are violating? Dr.Who? Weakest link? BBC? --
- Arright, thanks. See my talk page for more on my copyvio issues about Image:Cowbell2.jpg. I ended up linking to the image. Thanks again, and sorry for the paranoia, -[[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]] 21:53, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Nonsense you did your job (I think) ;) -- chi?22:00, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Nonsense you did your job (I think) ;) --
Computer on #wikipedia-fr-vandalism
Hello, as i understand you are the maintainer of this Irc bot. I just want to know who is there is someone in the french team who is authorised to add (watched pages, white listed users, etc.) to this bot. I ask this because actually this bot is not very useful (and not well know too) for the french team as he detect nearly onlys blanking and suspected copyvios. Sincerely. fr:Utilisateur:Miniwark 12:56, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Adieussiatz, any admin and any whitelisted user can add others. I'd be more than happy to add you and others and modify the code in whatever way it suits your (French Wikipedia's) needs. The bot is designed for en.wikipedia vandal behavior and there of course will be differences. -- chi?13:17, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Award from Dynamo_ace
An Award | ||
For your rapid inclusion of various screenshots from Ah! My goddess! as well as various amendments, I, Dynamo_ace, award you the Tireless contibator barnstar |
Back to complaining about access
I have found the evidence of why and proof it was unfair that I have my 10 removed. I have only put in the parts I think are relevant. If you want I can give you the entire chat history. My time +10 Tue Oct 25 10:00:24 connected [10:09] adam1213: if you want to tell me something I will be in wikipedia-en-vandalism or pm me as most of the time I am not looking at this probably thinking that I was not going to see what was said AbuJihad says [10:02] AbuJihad: Adam, I'm going to spank you. [10:02] * AbuJihad spanks Adam [10:02] * adam1213 why [10:02] * adam1213 spanks abujihad until i gets the idea not to dco it to me [10:03] * AbuJihad spanks Adam viciously until Adam tearfully apologizes for being a bad boy [10:03] * adam1213 no apologising [10:03] * adam1213 YOU STARTED IT [10:04] * adam1213 wonders why abujihad wants to argue with me [10:10] * AbuJihad waves his open hand menacingly over Adam1213's heinie [10:10] RobChurch: Kick his ass, AbuJihad ;-) [10:11] * AbuJihad goes loco on Adam1213s ass!! [10:11] * adam1213 wonders why thie hill abjihad is so crazy [10:11] adam1213: an seams not all that smart [10:12] AbuJihad: Adam1213, you bring it out in me, I can't help it [10:13] AbuJihad: Adam1213, your prose is like jewels in my mouth [10:15] karynn|zzz: Evilphoenix is an idiot. [10:17] * adam1213 I don't knink that enivlphoenix is an idiot [10:20] AbuJihad: Adam1213, how are you? [10:20] adam1213: good [10:21] AbuJihad: Adam, I'm going to kick your ass, is that okay? [10:21] Minixbeak: AbuJihad: stop. [10:21] WikiFanatic: AbuJihad, stop it [10:21] AngryParsley: ALERT ALERT INTERNET FIGHT [10:21] WikiFanatic: AbuJihad, if you keep at it you're going to get kicked [10:21] AdamBishop: AbuJihad, khadahalum Allah! [10:21] Jtkiefer: Abu, cool it [10:21] AbuJihad: Angry, I would imagine not. [10:22] * adam1213 I am going to kick you abujihad... [10:22] WikiFanatic: adam1213 has ops? [10:22] adam1213: no [10:22] RobChurch: adam1213 can't kick anyone. [10:22] Jtkiefer: nobody fears you adam either [10:22] AbuJihad: Adam, you can't kick me, as far as I'm aware. [10:22] adam1213: I was kicing [10:22] adam1213: kiding [10:22] Linuxbeak: AbuJihad: I said stop. [10:22] RobChurch: Would we all like to chill out? [10:22] WikiFanatic: Kicing isn't that good. XD [10:22] adam1213: if i did have ops I would ask for support to kick you first anyway [10:22] WikiFanatic: All I said was 'stop' [10:22] * Redwolf24 sings the calm down song [10:22] Dragonfly6-7: AbuJihad - inshallah, you won't get agitated again. [10:22] RobChurch: adam1213: I can guarantee you won't get those. [10:23] Jtkiefer: adam, stop, abu, stop ok [10:23] adam1213: thanks linuxbeak for telling to stop [10:23] Linuxbeak: Jtkiefer: thank you. [10:23] AngryParsley: AbuJihad: come on Babajobu, chill [10:23] Dragonfly6-7: And then the song helps them feel better. [10:24] AbuJihad: Angry, I am calm now. [10:25] *** -ChanServ- You have been deleted from the access list for [#wikipedia-en-vandalism]
also know as [10:31] *** AbuJihad is now known as Babajobu.
in wikipedia-en-vandalism [10:27] Jtkiefer: because I do not have faith that you'd be willing to show restraint if you got into a situation where you felt you wanted to kick or ban someone
Note that I was banned for speaking about this. NO WARNING that i would be kicked in my opinion there is a hypocrite....
--☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 07:12, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:Fair use-firefox
- Thank you for the notification, I have made comments on the page. You may want to take a look. ;) -- chi?20:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
November
IRC
I was only warned about mentioning it again no response. --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 13:18, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Radiant's vote
CC - I took off this vote, as I notice that his hurdle is simply that he mistook me for an admin, not that he thinks I should be one. -
]- Man I sweat blood over the answers to those questions! And the only comment on them was "once they are answered..." Pooh. - ]
- I think I am not required to revaluate my vote the instant you make your posts. RfA's last so long for a reason. Geez. -- chi?02:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- Umm, I was kidding. Because mine didn't. One of the things pointed out to me was that I need to be a bit more explicit in my posts, so I'll take this as another example of me needing to work on that. But I do love the word "Geez". - ]
- I think I am not required to revaluate my vote the instant you make your posts. RfA's last so long for a reason. Geez. --
Moved from User talk:Cool Cat/IRC Bot
How does it work? How do you run it? --dfrankow 15:17, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- The bot is a chi?16:54, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
165.111.2.149
[22:07:07] <Computer2> IP already blacklisted. Block: Special:Blockip/165.111.2.149 Contribs: Special:Contributions/165.111.2.149 Block log: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3A165.111.2.149
I think he deserves a longer block, hey why not tag along on irc? ;) --
- I concur, you may increase the block if you see fit. I err on the side of caution for proxies. As to IRC, I usually find it distracting or unproductive (meaning, no one talks to me :")... as I have a TV tuner in my computer I can deal with one distraction in the background at a time. I will certainly reconsider my IRC and proxy policy. :"D - RoyBoy 800 20:15, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- Oh I was talking about #wikipedia-en-vandalism a channel full of people dedicated to fight against vandalism (and a vandalism detection bot is running).
- Sorry, I am not an admin, I cant do it myself :) -- chi?20:33, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
IRC/CVU issue
[03:23:57] <Jtkiefer> all I want done is for him to drop the issue, to forget about ops and to continue like normal [03:24:13] <Cool_Cat> can I copy that last line to his talk page? [03:24:29] <Jtkiefer> yeah, sure
Jtkiefer, says he is ready to forget about this given you agree to forget about it.
You may feel the need to seek "justice", however it probably is in the best interest of wikipedia to drop the issue. IIRC you do not seek some sort of punishment for Jtkiefer so I also feel you want to be left alone and be able to fight vandalism in the channel w/o interference.
I say lets forget about the issue and deal with vandalism. This conflict only benefits vandals as it distracts us (you, Jtkiefer, me and anybody else involved) to some extent to focus on the big picture.
--
- What do you mean by IIRC
I dont really get some of what you said on my talk page but thanks for your message. --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 05:38, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry for the confusion let me explain/summarise. I just feel you want a truce as much as he does. This matter as I see it can only be settled if forgotten.
- IIRC stands for If I Recall Correctly. Just annother annoying irc abv. :) -- chi?12:54, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
This image has no source information. This means that it has an unknown
Additionaly you should choose a more descriptive image name.
- Hi, thank you for informing me. Please delete image. Thank you. — PM Poon 01:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- Are you sure? It would please me more if the image did sutvive. Do you recall where you got it from? -- chi?12:59, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- Are you sure? It would please me more if the image did sutvive. Do you recall where you got it from? --
Hi Cool Cat, actually I was merely improving on the image, "Klerck.jpg", as stated in my notation. I did say the following: "Improvement of Klerck.jpg (currently in en:Wikipedia) using photoshop". The composition of the original image was, in my opinion, bad in that it had too much headroom. In any case, I am getting so much less attached to Wikipedia these days that I don't really care what they do to my contributions, LOL. — PM Poon 01:50, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I am not a deletionist. I think we can argue of a fair-use. The images Image:Klerck.jpg and Image:Klerck1.jpg look about the same. Can you tell my untrained eyses the diference? Is it sharper?
- I understand that, I have also been dealing with rather annoying personalities on wiki, though I have no idea what your dispute is. I encourage you to stay with us. -- chi?09:07, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Cool Cat, you wrote: "The images Image:Klerck.jpg and Image:Klerck1.jpg look about the same. Can you tell my untrained eyses the diference? Is it sharper?"
Please go to the webpage: "Image:Klerck.jpg", and look at the file history. The original version, at the bottom, reads:
- (del) (rev) 18:33, 4 July 2005 . . Dougmilbourne . . 113x150 (14482 bytes) (Kevin "Klerck" Ealy)
If you press on the date field, you will see the original version, where there is a lot of empty space above the guy's head.
I am actually a Photoshop enthusiast. Whenever I see any pictures that can benefit from Photoshop, I will improve on it. Unfortunately, when I used the "Upload a new version of this file" feature, it never seems to work. I recently found out that it does actually work, although not instanteously (I wonder why). That explains why I uploaded, using the "new version" feature twice. When it did not seem to work, I downloaded the image, using Klerck1.jpg, a new file name, and it works instanteously.
As for your kind encouragement, I must thank you very much. Since you are very candid with me, I will be very candid with you. Honestly, as a foreigner, I feel discriminated against by a few British and I am really cheesed off by them. I have stopped contributing for quite many days now as I am now in another website where my contributions are more appreciated. However, I will still drop by once a while. Thank you again for your encouragement. — PM Poon 11:33, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hmm, for disputes we have a dispute resolution process. It is slow, but it works. I also suffer from the special care of some people.
- I know wikipedia could use more photoshop entusiasts.
- Additionaly, I encourage you to take a look at Wikipedia:Counter Vandalism Unit, no one complains about people reverting vandalism (aside from vadals of whom are dealt with swiftly).
- -- chi?12:03, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Where did you get this image from, I am merely curious about the identity of these people. --
- These people are definitely in my family, on my side (not my wife's side). The picture was with a bundle of family photos left to me a few years ago by an aunt when she died. I scanned it into my computer. I think its a lovely pic, shame I'll probably never find out exactly who they were. Moral: always write the persons name on the back of a photo (the only thing on the back was the date). Thanks for your question - Adrian Pingstone 12:37, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- I see, I hate unresolved misteries, its like a novel that doesn't conclude. It indeed is a lovely pic. Another reason to construct a family tree :) -- chi?18:16, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- I see, I hate unresolved misteries, its like a novel that doesn't conclude. It indeed is a lovely pic. Another reason to construct a family tree :) --
How to use Autosign
note: ` is ` with shift
- goto Preferences
- turn on raw signatures
- Make your nickname ````
- change --```` to --```
- edit it
- save it
- Optional chage your nickname to "" or what it used to be
- Optional put raw signatures to what it used to be
You get the sig sign but I think to use it you might need to do Edit pages may be made harder by this the solution for this problem is a section above it and a section below and tell people not to edit the entire page.
Or have the page with {{top-of-articles-name}} ~~~~ {{bottom-of-articles-name}} but this puts a lot of strain on the servers and you would need 3 pages for it. --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 00:46, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Recently created inapproproate user names
User:FUCK ARANDA56 TITOXD CAMBRIDGEBAYWEATHER, AND CURPS
User:JoanneB or Splash who should I fuck tonight
I thought I'd bring these to an admin's attention.
- Thanks for the heads up, users are already blocked indefinately. BTW, I am not an admin :) -- chi?19:47, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
I chose you because i saw you had blocked a user... so I assumed you where. I thoughtm only admins could block users.
- No I did not block anyone. I am incapable to do so. -- chi?20:43, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, weird then; I must've clicked on the wrong username or something... sorry for the misunderstanding. PRueda29 18:01, 6 November 2005 (UTC)]
- Oh not an issue, I just wanted to make sure you go to the people with power by correcting the error, no harm done ;) -- chi?18:10, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
- Oh not an issue, I just wanted to make sure you go to the people with power by correcting the error, no harm done ;) --
- Ok, weird then; I must've clicked on the wrong username or something... sorry for the misunderstanding.
Thank you note
Hi Cool Cat, you are really cool. Honestly, I was surprised when you notified me of your intention to delete Klerck1.jpg. "Normally", no one does that, they just delete, which is fine to me too. What I didn't like is when some administrators or editors start throwing their weight around. I feel that in a community portal, administrators must double up as counsellors and not as hooligans, LOL. You have a high dose of EQ and I wish you well. — PM Poon 21:18, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- I am not an administrator and I can delete the files though I generally try to get templates to be marked to be sourced so they get tagged properly than risk getting deleted. I generally deal with vandalism since the users that cause me stress otherwise dont seem to interfere with it. -- chi?22:09, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
.
with your office page what does it mean if a user has a bat next to them (you should have it writen below) --Adam1213 Talk+ 12:25, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I dont quite understand what are you trying to ask. :) --chi?15:51, 7 November 2005 (UTC)I havent used my office for ages, I made minor cleanups but havent quite used it, since I dont edit article namespace much anymore. --chi?16:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)- Oh I see what you mean. the images on my contacts thing are mental notes. I like to be able to quicckly look up who CVU members/admins and other people I may need rapid communication with. Regarding the bat image, take a look at: chi?16:47, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Re: Atlas award
Someone already gave me one, but thanks for another one. Actually, the python program is quite shorter than expected. --AllyUnion (talk) 23:19, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
- Well, shorter code implies a more pro programmer... ;) -- chi?10:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
CVU Award
I give you the CVU award for doing a great job with writing the bot and running it + being a very active user in the CVU but it would be good if you are on irc a little more....
--Adam1213 Talk+ 12:48, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
x RFA
Thanks for your support on my request for adminship.
The final outcome was (96/2/0), so I am now an ]Rajput article
You reverted the article Rajput to a biased and historically distorted version. May I ask why is it so and how do you feel that your edit is justified?
خرم Khurram 21:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, please have a read of chi?21:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
But that article that you removed was the one that almost all the editors agree upon but one and the one that you have posted is the one that contains the biased and historically distorted information. As a matter of fact you can judge this by the edits performed by different editors during the past few weeks. It can also be witnessed by reading at the corresponding talk page. I think your interest should be about the removal and addition of large amount of "Correct" information not the distorted one. Am I wrong?
خرم Khurram 21:59, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- Firstly, I did not remove any article. I added +8000 bytes with my edit on Rajput. I merely reverted someone removing 8000 bytes. As far as I care, removal of 8000 bytes with an edit summary "Shiv ,frankly do you have any suggestion or points for resolving this dispute, I'd b with you if you something sensible.HOWz that?". [18]
- It is a topic I know nothing about. I monitor all of wikipedia just like any RC patroler.
- Please use/promote legable edit summaries so other editors can easily tell exactly what you did on the edit. Adress wikipedia rather than a spesific user.
- Tonikaku, "historically distorted information" sounds POV to me, but *meh* I really do not care. -- chi?00:09, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I appreciate your desire to retain any useful information for the benefit of Wikipedia. Much of the historical information that
- Oh I see whats going on now... Hmm... You seem to have it covered then. :) -- chi?07:10, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- All these users Taoo/Wisesabre etc and some self proclaimed moderators like Zora/Goethean etc are just pushing muslim agenda. I have provided a list of 61 books from top researchers and these guys want to operate without citations. I have asked them repeatedly on the talk page to point out, with citations, what is POV, anti muslim in my edits and no one has responded till date. They are pushing a history which is *only* accepted by muslims and not by even person about whom this page is i.e the rajputs from India. It is really funny that a small group of pakistani muslims are trying to write the history of hindu rajputs.
- Wikipedia has become a contest in outshouting the other. "Correct" version seems to be dependent on who has more numbers and these muslims are playing this game well. I will grant that Tom has some knowledge on the subject but not very deep.
- You should keep an eye out for these users and help prevent muslim POV psuhing.
- Shivraj Singh 17:42, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, I understand your concerns. You may want to seek assitance from chi?12:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, I understand your concerns. You may want to seek assitance from
- I can understand not getting involved but on one side we have references and citations and on the other we have none. Can we have bad scholarship on wikipedia where a very well referenced work is edited by a group who continuously refuses to provide any citations for there edits? Shivraj Singh 04:43, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
office
I am one of the 4* people on your office page that is not an admin... Thanks for putting me on it. --Adam1213 Talk+ 06:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- Actually a good protion of the people were not admins when I /put them among contacts/met them. :) -- chi?06:53, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Can you help me with my user page. I want the background of my links table to be the same colour as your cheatsheet border on your office page. (the gold colour...) also to make the table a little wider. You did I great job last time you helped with my user page so I thought you could do a great job again... --Adam1213 Talk+ 07:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- I will gladly help however, I am about to zoom out, I'll get back to you on the first opertunity :) -- chi?07:08, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
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I have made a thing like your willy on wheels but has a thing for piping text User:Adam1213/wow
RE
Thanks for your comment and for helping me with my user page. --Adam1213 Talk+ 06:07, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Can we graph the number of members for CVU? --Adam1213 Talk+ 07:37, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- We can, but number of members should not be made a big deal in my view. We, the CVU, kick ass, no need to graph it. :) -- chi?10:33, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Silent Mongoose:
Just been busy with school. In my last semester at HCC (fl) and transfering to USF next semester for all of the fun EE classes. Don't worry, I didn't die of attrition. - Dbroadwell 22:58, 10 November 2005 (UTC) P.S. I like the counter vandalism logo, sorry i haven't gotten more of the queued bot processing running. - Dbroadwell 23:02, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- Ah glad to hear you are somewhere. :) -- chi?12:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Trials and Tribulations
Cool_Cat, I've just read some of your User Page and some of the details of your recent trials and tribulations. My gut feeling as a relatively new user on WP is that many in here and perhaps yourself have become "addicted" to this place and have let it replace real life. Any thoughts on this? User: Barry Wells, November 10, 2005. Current IRC nick "LabattLaBall."
- Comon side effect of chi?12:24, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the award. I finaly have an award!!! --Adam1213 Talk+ 01:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
- Do realise best editors often don't get the recognition they deserve as everyone knows how notable they are. Few people will doubt David Gerards role in vandal fighting, yet noone rains him barnstars. ;) -- chi?16:36, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
IRC ProbeCom bot
Could you add a feature to /msg users the filtered edits for a particular user under probation? eg, have the bot /msg Marudubshinki all Onefortyone's edits, so they don't get lost in the clutter of the channel, since it seems to be doubling as a discussion of MentCom and the place the bot deposits its edit warnings. --
]- Also: could you change the "pro" command to "probe" or at least alias "probe"? I'd greatly appreciate that. Likewise, I would be gratified and amused if you could make the 'access denied' message "I'm sorry, FOO. I'm afraid I can't do that." instead of the current "I cannot comply..." --]
bot plans...
I have managed to get cmd to connect to irc. I could connect to the recent changes list and get the url's of articles, I could program something to download them, scan them for certaint words and post a message if any of the words specified were found...
I have autoit getting the last thing from the log file and I have it sending to it. I could use any other client instead as long as it has logging, (just about.)
I use a command that sends text to a window and I have to have the info on the window to know which one to send to. If I dont use this command it needs to grab input...
--Adam1213 Talk+ 13:55, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
User:Kawaii Neko
Cool Cat, do you know
I've asked him to at least remove your name from the pages–he did a copy-paste–you might want to keep an eye on this user. Is it someone you know? TenOfAllTrades(talk) 17:52, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hmm that was me registering usernames for posible imposteration, and discovered how I could use templates. :) -- chi?19:14, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for watching my back and keep up the good work. Sorry for the rather short previous reply...
- The reason I am using is because of the issue with inter wiki-redirects not working properly. So I thought using the templates to create dupes of myself for people tring to link to my userpage from other wikis. I dono, its not the best way to do it but, I am not sure what an alternative could be. I am open to suggestions... -- chi?14:32, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Transcluding user and user talk pages
Welcome!
Hello とある白い猫/Archive/2005, and
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page
- Help pages
- Tutorial
- How to write a great article
- Manual of Style
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
Transclusion of user pages
I noticed that you changed the redirects for User:Coolcat and User talk:Coolcat (that pointed to the new user name, User:Cool Cat) into transclusions of User:Cool Cat and User talk:Cool Cat.
I've reverted your changes and restored the redirects. Using transclusion in this situation causes a number of problems. First, the transcluded content is not updated on the page that refers to it until the referencing page is edited—the referencing page will fall out of date and out of sync with the transcluded page. Second, for a User talk page, an editor who uses the 'add section' button (the little + symbol) to leave a message will end up adding the section to the wrong talk page. Consequently, the new username (Cool Cat) won't be notified that a message has been left on the Coolcat talk page. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 17:48, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Regarding your own user pages, please edit them so that they no longer identify you as Cool Cat. It's probably quite flattering for him that you've adopted his style and layout for your user pages, but it will be confusing to other editors to leave his name on them. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 17:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi, was there some confusion about what I was doing? I just archived the discussion (see the link at top) and fixed a font problem caused by one user's incorrectly coded signature.---CH (talk) 22:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, sorry, sorry... However the signature issue is taking place wikipedia-wide, something appears to be broken as multiple users whose signatures otherwise worked are experiencing problems. -- chi?22:46, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Vandals
Hi. I just wanted to say you have the best userpage I've ever seen. I just want to know, why on earth does it keep getting vandalized?(P.S. speaking of which, someone vandalized the Green Bay Packers page. Would you mind reverting it please? I don't know to fix a big mess like that. Thanks)--D-Day 23:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you! The page you mentioned is already fixed.
- The reason my userpage gets vandalised is probably because of my effort to remove vandalism from wikipedia, some vandals dont like getting reverted apperantly. :)
- For further use: The way to fix vandalism is through page history. You can compare versions and click on the prefered version :) -- chi?23:47, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Signpost
- "Cool Cat also worried that unbanning these users might encourage vandals. To help with the supervision, Cool Cat has developed a bot that shows each edit by an editor under mentorship."
Is there any place I can take a look at the stuff this bot finds? - Mgm|(talk) 10:55, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Oh sure, #wikipedia-probation on irc.freenode.net :) -- chi?11:00, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Cool Cat
But there is nothing surprising in correcting grammar when I see them. Fad (ix) 01:43, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
- True but cleaning articles from spelling and grammer errors (copy editing) should be encouraged on every opertunity.
- If you have the time, I welcome you to "copyedit" my userpage and/or this article Oh My Goddess!
- Thats all I got for now. -- chi?10:03, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Wikibooks IRC bot
Hi Cool Cat. You IRC bot is a great tool, but I have some suggestions. It is not possible to add an user to blacklist (only IP's are accepted) - can you fix it? Is it possible to get full list of watched pages/whitelisted and blacklisted users? I also would like to know when this bot reports wheeler (we had one case on Wikibooks, but I wasn't warching the bot so I don't know if it reacted properly). BTW, you have registered #wikibooks-en-vandalism channel at FreeNode, but it does not have ChanServ and Wikibooks users cannot f.e. change topic of the channel. I don't know FreeNode well, can you make #wikibooks-en-vandalism be like #wikipedia-en-vandalism? --User:Derbeth talk 19:34, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Edit analysis chart per your request
Sorry for the delay; I've done the graph for you. Your use of edit summaries is 28% overall. First 500 edits was 25%, last 500 was 39%. Your average edits per day is 49, and stable (not changed much since July or so). Your peak # of edits on a given day was 327 on April 1, 2005. You've had eight other days in excess of 200. You have contributed something on 85% of the days available since you started editing on February 4, 2005. I conclude; you're a nutcase and need psychological help for your addiction. More serious medical symptoms may set in with kidney failure due to not going to the bathroom when your body demands, acid reflux due to not eating, severe loss of weight due to same, severe repetitive stress symptoms most notably in the hands and wrists, and early onset of arthritis most likely in the wrists. I won't give you any more charts until the twitching stops. :) All the best, --Durin 15:17, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- chi?18:57, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Constant vigilance!
Canderson7 00:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
For some reason I find the medical connotations of the image interesting. :P
]Thanks
Just wanted to drop in and say thank for the wikipediaholic template; Lord knows I need it being the most addicted Wikipedian of them all!!! — Moe ε 03:01, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
Sweet! Thanks for the template! --
Very cool! Thanks for your hard work on the wikipediaholic template!!!! Thanks from a fellow wikipedia "junkie"! --Moreau36; 0352, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the cool Wikipediholic template. The 3rd moste addicted wikipedian of alle (Shreshth91)
Thanks fo the hint, It was of my interest very much indeed.
Just to let you know
Hello. I'm just letting you know that
Thank you!
Hi Cool Cat,
Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I was both surprised and delighted about the amount of support votes and all the kind words! If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know! Regards, JoanneB 14:06, 21 November 2005 (UTC)#wikipedia-it-vandalism
Hi Coolcat, the chan is really great! I have a little request, can you whitelist it:Utente:ZeroBot since it is a bot belonging to it:Utente:Paginazero (admin on it.wiki). He is using the bot to insert articles about films and they get detected as possible copyvio, but they're not and it's hard to see the real possible vandalism messages. Thanks a lot. --Cruccone 23:30, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Done ;) -- chi?00:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh My Goddess!
Hey, I am a bit overwhelmed on how to go on with this article. Suggestions? --
- Hmm, we need recaps on episodes 13 up to 24, plus a spoken word version of this article is required because the old version is obloste and computerised (it is on the article's talk page if you need more details). Umm, thats all i can consider at the moment that won't make the artcle biased or overloaded. --Dynamo_ace 19:19, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll get 13 - 24 done, I really have been slacking off from doing that primarily because of the ex-arbcom case taking too much of (all of) my time.
- Tonikaku, spoken version has to wait till we have all 24 episodes summerised. I do not want to rush it ;). It takes me about 20 minutes to do a single episode (as each ep is that long :P).
- We need the "movie" expanded. An hour and a half long movie cant be summerised to a paragraph that small :). Can you do that for me? -- chi?16:22, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, i only know the TV series and i have only read the first 5 issues of the magna. Anything relating to the OVA and Movie i can't do, primarly because i don't want to watch it due to it feeling like a rushed cash-in. -Dynamo_ace 17:47, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- Movie is realy stand alone, it is not detached from the plot. I also refuse to watch the OVA, at least I hope to last till season 2 which is expected to air in about a year or more, given there is no information weather there will be a season 2 or not. I really do not understand the logic of Anime companies... -- chi?17:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- Movie is realy stand alone, it is not detached from the plot. I also refuse to watch the OVA, at least I hope to last till season 2 which is expected to air in about a year or more, given there is no information weather there will be a season 2 or not. I really do not understand the logic of Anime companies... --
- Sorry, i only know the TV series and i have only read the first 5 issues of the magna. Anything relating to the OVA and Movie i can't do, primarly because i don't want to watch it due to it feeling like a rushed cash-in. -Dynamo_ace 17:47, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
Hey is it possible for you to add a link to your talk page on your sig? Thanks. --
- As for the link to the talk page,hmm, maybe i will get on to that soon.-Dynamo_ace 17:47, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- Its easy, just go to preferences and check the "raw signature" box and Type: [[User:Dynamo ace|Dynamo_ace]] [[User talk:Dynamo ace|Talk]] and save, any sig you create afterwards will have the talk link. Of course there is no reason not to throw in a few html tags like my sig :) -- chi?17:57, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- Its easy, just go to preferences and check the "raw signature" box and Type: [[User:Dynamo ace|Dynamo_ace]] [[User talk:Dynamo ace|Talk]] and save, any sig you create afterwards will have the talk link. Of course there is no reason not to throw in a few html tags like my sig :) --
Need a second opion
We have a anon vandal who keeps on reducing the quility of the article by causing the following edit shown in this link:
The vandal uses 3 different IPs and if i revert the article for the third time i may violate the 3RR rule. I need your opion on the article. -Dynamo_ace Talk
- Hmm, is this an alternative spelling? I would be hard pressed to call this vandalism. It looks like just another revert war... ;) -- chi?18:19, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- Oh thanks for the link... -- chi?18:21, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
my vandalism reverter and warner
I will soon get my vandalism reverter and warner working really well in a way that you can still do things while it is running and also fix a small problem in it after I made an inprovement on a part of it to speed it up. I will also add to an irc client that I made some things to be more integrated with the bot, like buttons for next article, revert, revert + warn, revert + warn + add to bots blacklist and say that an article has been reverted...
Thanks for the comment before. --Adam1213 Talk + 05:02, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Arigato
Thanks for the Wikipediholic test template. I'm honored to be officially unstable! :D Sango123 (talk) 01:04, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Bot
When the message comes up saying: "Large new page by IP, possible copy vio" it creates a link under "Diff:" like for example: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_Where_Dr._Ramoray_Dies&diff=next&oldid=" which is pointless, because it leads to a non-existent page. And there you go.
]Re: The barnstar
Thank you so much for that! Denelson83 01:07, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
persecute versus prosecute
Your page should say, "you've persecuted us for generations," not "prosecuted." It would be really funny if the Dark Templar were complaining about extensive legal fees:-) 07:05, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- It shall be done... For Aiur! Thanks! -- chi?08:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- Good. Otherwise, this defense attorney may have to block you... --Nlu 08:25, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- Want another physical? -- chi?09:29, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- Want another physical? --
- Good. Otherwise, this defense attorney may have to block you... --Nlu 08:25, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Blocked for 24h
For blindly reverting Karl Meier (without even reading the diffs), I'm forced to block you for 24h. Everyone has the right to edit the wiki, and as advice the arbcom may end up banning you from Kurdish articles if you don't stop this... Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 21:46, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- After promising to be good and stop following KM, I've set the block to 3 hours. It's also to be noted that Davenbelle was warned several times (like when he opposed your RFA). Redwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 21:55, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Silly Cool Cat...!
....Whales don't have an sufficient enough body of hair to shave..! You can't shave whales...! What do you mean by "shaving whales"..? I'm curious.-MegamanZero 9:40 28,November 2005 (UTC)
- It's "shave the Jimbo Wales!" -- chi?08:38, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
...What's "shave the Jimbo Wales"...?-MegamanZero 11:28 28,November 2005 (UTC)
- See chi?09:23, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
..Astounding..! They actually allow such a wikiproject to exist...? Sign me up!-MegamanZero 11:48 28,November 2005 (UTC)
- Well, it was ment to be a joke, it was to in a way "protest" a number of wikiprojects seeking "decency", etc... If you really want to sign up... go for it. Since Jimbo Wales also finds it amusing thats why it still exists. We are not on a Jihad against Jimbos beard, no. :) -- chi?17:05, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Hilarious indeed! I've added my name to the list....Beard beware! -MegamanZero
- Oh, and nice userpage design! Though it pales in comparison to my userpage!(Laughs manically) =) -MegamanZero
Warning to Karl Meier and Cool Cat
I shall block you both if I catch you edit warring any more as you have done on
Sorry
"It is suspected that this user may be a for evidence."
- Well, its obvious the edvidence is substantial, as well as it backs up consensus pior to UFU sightings. As such, I have to agree- you are a sockpuppet of aliens. Of course, that means, that as a sockpuppet, we'll have to trace you back to the sockpuppeteer that pulls your strings, right..? =) -MegamanZero19:12 29,November 2005 (UTC)
Something else for you to fix (hehe)
I presume it is your bot running in #wikpedia-en-vandalism (19:53, 29 November 2005 (UTC)) - There is a fault with the "userparse" thing or whatever it is called. For example: [[Special:Log/newusers]]: Warning! "[[User:Dothackangel]]" has a nick containing the flag word: "hack" Block: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Blockip&ip= As you can see the link doesn't go to the right destination. Thanks, ]
- Oh? You sure you coopied it correctly? Is the problem http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Blockip&ip= beeing cut short? -- chi?19:58, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yes that is the problem, no direct link to the user's block page. ]
- Please fix it. ]
- I can only do that in the weekends. I have no access to the computer to make adjustments. :( -- chi?20:35, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- I can only do that in the weekends. I have no access to the computer to make adjustments. :( --
- Fair enough. ]
- Fixed -- chi?18:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fixed --
- Fair enough. ]
Semi-pro (again!)
Hey there, Cool Cat, I noticed you were one of only two (!) users who pushed for {{
]text-align: center for User:Cool Cat/CVU2-1
Why did ya put that back in, is it important, am I missing something? Because with that in there, it actually shifts the icon to the right. Take it out and it becomes centered. - RoyBoy 800 17:05, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, I was trying to modify the colors only, you can adjust the text align, I wasn't intending to do that. My most sincere apologies and gratitude for catching my error... -- chi?17:14, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Assistance
Cool Cat, may I request some tips and tricks-of-the-trade regrading adminship? ...Would you be as so kind to help me on my quest to (eventually) become an admin..? I think I'd contribute well to the other users of our fair community, and I have read the articles on adminship all at least twice. Also, could you look at my contributions, discussions, etc. and tell me your humble opinion of me as a user in wikipedia...? Any criticism would be quite helpful. Normally, I'd be asking Tony, but he's kinda busy right now. -MegamanZero 23:41 30,November 2005 (UTC)
- I failed to achieve adminship access with two trials. I no longer seek adminship. Reasons are:
- I do not care about/understand wiki-politics (I am here to merely write/expand an encyclopedia).
- no one explained me why they opposed my RfA to the point of leaving wikipedia if I were adminised.
- people are being dicks and are torturing me by taunting with "do this or I will oppose your next rfa" or "that comment is why you arent an admin".
- Threfore I do not seek adminship, it would however make my vandal fighting efforts easier but it is serriously not worth my time.
- Hence I am a very bad person to talk to for advice. Any advice I may give to you or if people think I am helping you that may geportise your adminship effort.
- Regretfully, I cannot be of any help to you either way. :( -- chi?12:31, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Somehow, I find that hard to believe. You seem like a nice enough guy, as well as having the long-term goal of improving wikipedika in mind. You also seem to have a knack for honesty, something I find admirable. All you need too do is wash your mouth out with soap, and you'll go far. =) -MegamanZero
- Well, believe it or not, thats how it is... -- chi?16:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- That's too bad....I think people should get to know you better before making making assumptions like that. However, if its any assumption, I believe you are a good wikipedian and I thought (still do) you could be of help. Besides, anyone with a username like Cool Cat can't be all that bad!-MegamanZero
- Advice I can safely give are:
- Revert vandalism (RC patrol)
- Do NOT touch articles such as Armenian Genocide
- Hope no one you met does any of the items listed on WP:ABF.
- -- chi?18:27, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Advice I can safely give are:
- That's too bad....I think people should get to know you better before making making assumptions like that. However, if its any assumption, I believe you are a good wikipedian and I thought (still do) you could be of help. Besides, anyone with a username like Cool Cat can't be all that bad!-MegamanZero
- Well, believe it or not, thats how it is... --
- Somehow, I find that hard to believe. You seem like a nice enough guy, as well as having the long-term goal of improving wikipedika in mind. You also seem to have a knack for honesty, something I find admirable. All you need too do is wash your mouth out with soap, and you'll go far. =) -MegamanZero
- Thanks! But why not touch articles like WP:ABF...? Just curious.-MegamanZero20:58 1,December 2005 (UTC)
- Since I touched that controversial article, several people made my wikipedia exerience miserable, at several occasions I had seriously considered leaving. For their horrid behaviour I am held responsible in the minds of several users. It's just how wiki-politics works, I dont claim to have an understanding of it. Thats the best explanation I can come up with. I do not think it should make any logical sense tho.
- If people are ABF, they must have a reason right? :)
- Tonigaku, controversial are like the sun if you get to close to them you only end up getting burnt. Even if you leave such articles alone for months you will still be a "POV Pusher" 12,000 edits later. -- chi?19:04, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- I see. In another note, I looked at this, and it was quite interesting...may I inquire why those two were stalking you and why you have been designated mentors..? You do not seem like the type to cause trouble, my friend.-MegamanZero 23:14 1,December 2005 (UTC)
- I do not know... They either sincerely saw me as a threat to wikipedia (Hawthorne's: Road to hell is paved with good obsessions) or they enjoy anoying others. Although I hope its not the latter, I cant rule it out either. -- chi?21:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- I do not know... They either sincerely saw me as a threat to wikipedia (Hawthorne's: Road to hell is paved with good obsessions) or they enjoy anoying others. Although I hope its not the latter, I cant rule it out either. --
- Indeed. I agree with that! -MegamanZero
- You may want to not copy an RfAr page... :) -- chi?21:35, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- You may want to not copy an RfAr page... :) --
- I believe its a very interesting conversation; and furthurmore, a perfect example of how not to act on wikipedia. Hopefully, it'll help in my learning process of becoming an admin. BTW, How do you think I stack up for the position...?-MegamanZero 0:14 2,December 2005 (UTC)
December
Template- Belgian King??
Why did u make this template, there was a much better one there before that was standard for all monarchs, and much more accurate. And his heir apparent is not Duke Philipe it is Prince Philippe, Duke of Brabant, there is a difference. Mac Domhnaill 02:18, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- When I visited those articles there was no infobox template, I did not know the existence of a generic template, furthermore I think it looks fine :)
- Prince Philippe, Duke of Brabant is too long of a title to fit in the info box. I merely shortened it to Duke Philipe you can change it to whatever you feel is more accurate but please if you can try to make it short so it looks nice :) -- chi?12:19, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
I apologize if I may have seemed rude. There had been a template there, but apparently it was not you who removed it. Thank-you Mac Domhnaill 23:32, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thats alright, so is it better now? All sorted? The Belgian king articles were a mess due to misaligned infoboxes... :( -- chi?10:41, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Slovenian Armed Forces's Military Ranks Insignias
As you're author of these insignias on :commons, could you also done CO's and Generals ranks (so far I found only Soldier's and NCO's ranks - I collected them here). You could find CO's and General's insignia on Slovene insignia. If you have already done them, could you direct me to them? Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic 12:02, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh that’s easy, I meant to move those images to commons, if you can do that for me you will make me very happy, its just too much work for me :)
- Images are available in Ranks and insignia of NATO, I have only completed "Army Officer" and "Army Enlisted", I intend to do air force, navy, and others sometime.
- There is a naming convention you should use (trust me this makes things easy on the long run) to rename the images so they all are standard named. The convention for officers is xx-Army-OF#.gif where xx is the country code and # is the NATO code. Ex: chi?12:15, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, SAF uses one set of insignia, so you have one Armed Force completed ;). I'll moved them according to others, you've already move (on licence and so one). Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic 12:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
So, what do you think? Is it OK? Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic 12:39, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Cute, i really like it however you may want to use tables instead of galleries, bah Ill fix it :) -- chi?12:43, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Yet another award from Dynamo_ace!
An Award | ||
For another massive set of new Ah!My goddess! contributions across multiple pages. I, Dynamo_ace, award you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar Award |
And no doubt more of this is on the way! -Dynamo_ace Talk
- Oh, I was only beginning my edit storm. :) -- chi?17:53, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Can you wikify the pages I create on chi?18:03, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Can you wikify the pages I create on
- I'd be glad to wikify the page- mind telling me what needs attention..? I know I should make some character pages...-MegamanZero 20:32 1,December 2005 (UTC)
- The characters such as chi?21:45, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- The characters such as
I did try to include a section showing what character refers another character as (For example, Belldandy refers Keiichi as Keiichi-san) but it was removed for being non-encyclopedic. -Dynamo_ace Talk
- It is encyclopedic if you explain its something to do with the japaneese culture. -san is for respected, -sama is for nobility and gods goddesses etc.. -- chi?10:36, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Cool Cat mentorship, Kurdistan, etc
You have both been blocked for twelve hours, subject to review (see
- This is a copy of comments I've made on the talk pages of your other mentors'
Cool Cat has recently engaged in very aggressive, unprovoked attacks on Karl Meier, including blindly reverting the latter's edits on two Kurd-related articles--on which Cool Cat has not previously edited for over two months.
He and Karl Meier have both edit warred on Kurdistan, and I've just blocked both for twelve hours. Cool Cat's edits on Kurdistan, without the aggressive behavior, would be borderline, but in the circumstances I'm inclined to the view that the problems are unlikely to be resolved because Cool Cat will not improve his behavior. I think we should consider banning him from editing any articles related to Turkey or the Kurds for two weeks. Please see the talk page of the mentorship (the link in the subject header of this section). --Tony Sidaway|Talk 21:08, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh I read them alright. Sorry I cant reply to you on your talk page. If you haven’t noticed I have walked away from that revert war. Karl is know for his disruptive revert wars, I'd like to remind you that he also failed to make an effort to use discussion properly aside from declaring me random titles similar to his behavior on his stalking spree which I find highly uncivil. Please have an objective approach. I do not like how this is going.
- Because of them I have suffered greatly and apparently am still suffering. 5 out of 5 blocks I received on wikipedia were requested by Karl, The 6th and current block is a result of Karls actions as well. Why am I the only person bothered by this fact? Davenbelle's recent behaviour should also be examined (He actually restarted opposing me on straw polls). -- chi?21:16, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I warned you both and yet you both ignored me and resumed edit warring, which isn't good for Wikipedia. I'm giving Wikipedia a twelve-hour rest from you both. I've subjected the case to review on
Being able to edit articles on very volatile subjects means knowing how to deal with very disruptive behavior by other editors without making matters worse. You haven't yet acquired that skill. If we do decide to ban you, it will be for a short period, and will be solely in the interests of Wikipedia. We won't be saying that your input isn't acceptable, but that your actions aren't sufficiently sensitive to the circumstances. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 21:44, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- I think I was doing fine. Again (like it has always been) Karl is interfering with my edits on a volatile article. I could be viewed as pushing Kurdish pov there as far as an average Turkish nationalist is concerned. I have made references to US history on why several sections don’t belong to the article, the actual discussion have recently started a ban of me from that article will complicate matters. Karl is not a part of that discussion see his comments. If I made such comments I would be eaten alive on #wikipedia for months. -- chi?21:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- I have asked redwolf24 to mediate this one (prior to being blocked), if he agrees I think I can manage this (chi?21:51, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
IRC vandalism script
Could you please add me to wherever I need to be added to have Computer2 recognise me as an administrator, not just a whitelisted user? Thanks.
]- Done -- chi?18:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Baj insignia
Image:Baj1.png, Image:Baj2.png, Image:Baj3.png, Image:Baj4.png, Image:Baj5.png, Image:Baj6.png, Image:Baj7.png, Image:Baj8.png, Image:Baj9.png
Could you please give you sources and categorize these images properly? --Saperaud 05:46, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sure. See: chi?18:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
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I see you had a bit of trouble with Karl Meier on Kurdistan. After Karl Meier telling you were doing the wrong thing you should of asked someone else for their opinion and gotten them to change it if they thought that it should of been changed. Put on the talk page a link to the difference page of how you think it should be and see what people think and ask for someone to change it if they agree. Please stop going on so many wiki breaks, people want to speak to you with suggestions for the bot and other things (positive things). --Adam1213 Talk + 12:08, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
About Oh! My Goddess....
...I've looked at the pages, and the first step to making them conform to a higher quality would be making info boxes, stating their names, ages, elemental affinity, etc. I've drawn out a prototype below:
Species: (Human, Goddess, sprit, etc.) Gender: Dimension: 3rd (Humans), 10th (goddesses and gods) Measurements: Age: Birthday: Height: Weight: Hair color: Eye Color: Elemental Affinity: (Fire, Earth, wind, etc.) Angel(s): First appearance: Voice actor:
What do you think..? If you agree, I'll make it and insert in into the articles, as well as dividing the information into subsections for easier reference. -MegamanZero 15:06 3,December 2005 (UTC)
- Doable. I would like that, however "Age" will be a controversial thing since we know Urd is several hundred thousand years old although time flows differently in heaven, one second there could be several hundred years here. :) -- chi?18:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Great to see your keyboard problem is over with, and nice to have you back. Actually, she's only in her late twenties. =) Furthermore, I've made the templates, which can be found here. Tell me what you think. Also, You didn't reply to [my last comment above. Thanks. -MegamanZero 21:36 3,December 2005 (UTC)
- I created a more generic chi?20:01, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- I created a more generic
- Okay. I'll do just that. -MegamanZero 22:30 3,Decmber 2005 (UTC)
Signature
Can you add a talk page link to your sig? :) --
- Be my guest. And, if I may be so kind to inquire, can you show me how to customize my username..? I was thinking of making the Zero part in MegamanZero red colored text. :) -MegamanZero 22:27 3,Decmeber 2005 (UTC)
- OK click "preferences" and mark "raw signatures" checkbox then replace the signature field with something like this: [[User:MegamanZero|MegamanZero]] [[User Talk:MegamanZero|Talk]] I'll leave the creativity bit to you :) -- chi?20:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- OK click "preferences" and mark "raw signatures" checkbox then replace the signature field with something like this: [[User:MegamanZero|MegamanZero]] [[User Talk:MegamanZero|Talk]] I'll leave the creativity bit to you :) --
Progress
Here's what I got so far:
- Belldandy
- Urd
- Skuld
- Peorth (still doing analysis)
....and I'll finish everyone else up sooner or later.-MegamanZero 1:12 4,December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am reprocessing your work and making minor adjustments here and there, see: chi?23:00, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw that. Well, fuck me then. :) That's very nice-looking. Mind doing that to the other articles too..? I'm busy with research on Peorth.-MegamanZero 1:19 4,Decmber 2005 (UTC)
- Why dont you tag along on irc? Makes life more bearable when wikipedia is down. :) -- chi?00:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- How do I do that..?-MegamanZero 2:26 4,December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, get an irc client and go to server irc.freenode.net and join #wikipedia :) -- chi?00:27, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, get an irc client and go to server irc.freenode.net and join #wikipedia :) --
- And how do I get an irc client...?-MegamanZero 2:49 4,December 2005 (UTC)
- http://www.mirc.com is one also see chi?00:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- http://www.mirc.com is one also see
- I'm have IRC now, but I'm having a hell of a time finding you on a server. Could you be more specific..? With server and location info, I mean.-MegamanZero 3:26 4,December 2005 (UTC)
That damn IRC
- Hmmm....This is being very difficult...I do not see a way out of it...I still can't find it -could I request you give me directions starting form after one pushes the file tab in the upper left-hand corner and then give me instructions from there..?-MegamanZero 3:57 4,December 2005 (UTC)
- Pass through all menus till you reach the status bar.
- Type "/server irc.freenode.net" on the text box without the " "
- Once logged in (you may need to change nicks) type "/join #wikipedia"
- -- chi?01:50, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
WTF...?!
Are you serious...? That's like a bazillion edits all in the course of five minutes. Try using the "preview" button, pal.-MegamanZero 14:28 4,December 2005 (UTC)
- The nature of the edits are quite different. in total about 6000+ bytes were removed wikipedia, thanks to the usage of the template. I generally make many large edits :) (and yes I do use preview) -- chi?12:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- I just found it somewhat humorous; after all, they were all done in succession. :) -MegamanZero 14:42 4,December 2005 (UTC)
- Heh. You should have seen me during my last edit storm :P. -- chi?12:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Heh. You should have seen me during my last edit storm :P. --
Marller and Keiichi Morisato
I added the template but have no idea where you are getting data regarding them :) so I'll let you fill in the blanks.
Also couldn’t manage to IRC? I can help you more but I have no idea what’s keeping you :) --
- Consider them done. As for IRC, its sooo damn confusing... How about this..? Just give me detailed step-by-step instructions on how to find your server, etc. starting from when a person opens up the program.-MegamanZero 16:52 4,December 2005 (UTC)
:)
May I ask what was wrong before? [19]. Hope that didn't happen in too many places. -
- No I noticed it quickly, however never bothered to fix the damage :) -- chi?22:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
List of Oh My Goddess episodes
Thanks for deleting those images. May I ask a favor? Can you please "rename" some of the images that appear on this page? The ones under Season 1 section. I was trying to get them all to follow the Oh My Goddess 1x??.png pattern. --
- I don't think images can be renamed. You might just have to upload them and get the old ones speedily deleted :( Cheers. Enochlau 02:10, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- I know that thats why it was in quotes :P -- chi?10:06, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- I know that thats why it was in quotes :P --
"Editcountism"
Cool cat, My vote on Luigi30's RfA has nothing to do with how many edits he has. I personally wouldn't care if he had half the edits that he has. I really wouldn't. What concerns me is a very significant lack of involvement in the project. There are a broad spectrum of people who are involved in Wikipedia. Some are serious wikiholics, like User:BD2412. Some barely contribute, making just an edit here or there every few months or so. Outside of the users who edit once or twice and disappear, everyone is somewhere along that spectrum. A number of people, myself included, feel that being very close to the low activity end of the spectrum is bad for an admin. There are a number of reasons for this.
Emblematic of one of those reasons; Luigi, in response to critics of his low activity level, has had a surge today in activity. But, in at least two instances he has not followed procedure. He placed a copyright violation notice on Tarrytown Music Hall ([20]), but did not place a notice regarding the copyvio at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2005 December 5, per procedure. This also happened at Anna Rosmus ([21]). An active contributor to Wikipedia would most likely not have made this error. Luigi30 in these instances is not demonstrating knowledge of procedure nor due diligence in properly executing procedure. This to me shows the marks of an inexperienced editor. This has nothing to do with how many edits he has; it has to do with his dedication, experience, and knowledge of current policy and procedure.
Personally, I think Luigi30 is very, very dedicated to IRC but he lacks dedication to Wikipedia. We're not building an IRC channel. That's not our purpose. Our purpose here is building an encyclopedia. His statements that he does not have the time to contribute much on Wikipedia right now are simply false. He did in fact make more than 1900 comments on IRC over the last three weeks, while making just 14 edits over the same 3 weeks to Wikipedia. He most definitely does have the time but, either passively or actively, has made a choice not to contribute to Wikipedia very much at all, and instead focus his time on the IRC channel. I don't have any problem with someone being on the IRC channel. But, to use school taking up his time as an excuse while being highly active on IRC is simply fallacious.
If Luigi30 spent a fraction of the time he spends on IRC learning Wikipedia policy/procedure and demonstrated proper execution of same, I probably wouldn't have any problem supporting him. But, right now, he's simply proving the point that his activity level is problematic. This isn't "RfA cult"ism or "editcountism".
Thanks for your attention, --Durin 16:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- And to head off criticism from other vectors; I'm not trying to sway your vote in any respect. I'm explaining my vote, and why I feel it has valid basis. I don't care how you vote. I vote in good conscience, and do not make votes lightly. That's all I was trying to convey to you. --Durin 16:14, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- And an admin deleted images I uploaded (for suspected copyright infringement which was not the case) and the templates they appeared on without bothering to list it on the copy vio page. People make mistakes regardless of if they are admins or not. Also how do you expect him to do admin work without admin powers?
- Don't underestimate the IRC, several of the tools available on IRC such as my vandal detection bot and NullC's bot make admins job easier. RC patrolling without admin powers is like attempting to glide towards the wind. You can only go so much...
- Besides even hyperactive people such as myself are not adminised so that shouldn't be a criteria. -- chi?16:20, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not suggesting that hyperactivity is a criteria for being an admin. Rather, the lack of knowledge of Wikipedia policy (as Luigi30 demonstrated today) is a reason against being an admin. People, including admins, make mistakes all the time. It's the nature of being human. For example, 1 out of every 400 keystrokes you make (on average) will be an error that you do not detect. Admin candidates need to be evaluated based on the information at hand. A low level of activity is, to some people, a demonstration of lack of ability and/or knowledge and/or dedication. To some, missing one or more of these qualities is a disqualifying factor for an RfA. I made my vote Luigi30's nom on low activity because of this, and I've been borne out by his errors today (I've found a third similar error as well). Luigi30 doesn't need admin powers to place copyvio notices in appropriate places. I do not in any respect discount the value that IRC does contribute to Wikipedia. It can be tremendously helpful.
- I did not take your comments personally. Frankly, I find the ongoing hatred of me on IRC hysterical. I periodically review the logs and find it amusing reading. Some weeks back, I allowed myself to get very upset about a situation here, but now I let such criticisms roll off of me, and do not take them personally. Your comments were very mild in comparison. I just wanted to explain my vote to you. --Durin 16:46, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am not aware of such hatred. I would find such hatred disruptive. You are a fine wikipedia editor. However do realise several people on IRC enjoy upsetting others. That reminds me, I should have xeeded 15,000 edits. Is it possible for you to update the graph? :)
- Dont let people on IRC upset you remotely. Try tagging along on the RC patrol chan if you really want to entertain self :) -- chi?16:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Archive, why did this move here? I mean the edit box?
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- I see. This has been the user that has been blatantly vandalising at my school. If its any corelation, He's the reason why I've been blocked on several occasions when I try to make (constructive) edits. I wish there were a way to stop him so that editors like myself could continue to edit in good faith without being blocked.... May I make a suggestion..? How about I add all his "contribution" pages to my watchlist..? That way I can revert his vandalising and other editors can continue to edit in good faith without being blocked. -MegamanZero 22:49 5,Deacember 2005 (UTC)
Sounds like a very good way of doing something constructive about the vandalism. Also you could talk to Cool Cat, he may be able to help you to track vandalism from that IP, because he has a vandalbot written to run on mirc. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 21:21, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan; I'll talk to Cool Cat concerning your bot advice.-MegamanZero 0:34 5,December 2005 (UTC)
- That IP is blacklisted. Any edit coming from that ip will be monitored very closely at #wikipedia-en-vandalism thank you for the notice but we were already watching him. If you could IRC things would be much easier. (Try ircing from home, your school might have disabled/blocked irc. -- chi?02:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- School ips like all shared ips breed vandalism cleaning up your schools mess is nice and quite a noble move. However only thing I can offer is the irc bot which requires you to be on irc :P -- chi?02:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- You could use CDVF but I do not know how it works. -- chi?02:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- That IP is blacklisted. Any edit coming from that ip will be monitored very closely at #wikipedia-en-vandalism thank you for the notice but we were already watching him. If you could IRC things would be much easier. (Try ircing from home, your school might have disabled/blocked irc. --
rfa
I took the initiative...., I was wondering if you wanted to take a gander at how I'm doing...-MegamanZero 3:42 6,December 2005 (UTC)
Your bot
Hi Cool Cat, would it be possible for your IRC bot to respond to certain strings of text the edit summary field? Although most vandals don't leave an edit summary, it would be nice if we could have the bot report edits that have a stuff like "test4" in the edit summary, or a 'code' we agree upon, like "**", that non-admins can add to an edit summary to get admin attention quickly. (if I remember correctly this was originally one of Doc Glasgow's ideas, but it was never followed up on). Ideally, it would be nice to be able to add stuff to it ourselves (like we can with the commands bl and wl add, and cvp, etc), but even a short, preprogrammed list would be helpful. Well, just see what you can do with it, whenever you feel like it. And thanks for all you efforts, your bot really is cool! :-) --JoanneB 13:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Oh My Goddess! (OVA)
I have added all the plot details I intended to included for
- Oh I already prepared the format for you :) Just edit below the spoiler tag and you should be fine :) -- chi?01:40, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks! I have just added content to Moonlight And Cherry Blossoms: if you like the way I have done it, I can the other four over the next two days. I may expand on this at some later date too, though the plot section should remain relatively static. Elric of Grans 04:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC)]
- Great job, I am eager to see the reviews for other episodes. You may want to never mention trivia for future episodes instead mention trivia on the future episode (in context). Something like "Keiichi's huntch on episode 1 was because of his previous encounter when they were younger." Etc... -- chi?19:18, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. That is not a bad idea with the trivia, but all of it only applies in the final episode, so it would mean it all piles into one article, rather than being spread out over the series. I am thinking more along the lines of `make sure you do not miss' than `if you saw it, then this is why'. Elric of Grans 22:15, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Great job, I am eager to see the reviews for other episodes. You may want to never mention trivia for future episodes instead mention trivia on the future episode (in context). Something like "Keiichi's huntch on episode 1 was because of his previous encounter when they were younger." Etc... --
- Thanks! I have just added content to
Are you accusing ME of vandalism?
Striver took my comments out of context and reorganized them. I tried to revert to a version before he started editing me. If I omitted any of his comments, it was inadvertent. Please ask HIM not to unilaterally reorganize other people's comments (as he has done previously), don't call me a vandal. Zora 01:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- You removed over 2000 bytes, I do not care about the details. You are being no better than an average vandal with your careless editing. Also two wrongs don’t make a right. Please try not to make large removals. Thanks. -- chi?01:40, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, will YOU please restore the article? Or stop Striver? He feels that he has been vindicated and is re-arranging the talk page again. Zora 03:02, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Aargh, it's worse than just rearranging my comments. Apparently he has decided to reorganize all the older entries on the talk page and move them into Striver-created archives by subject. Zora 03:21, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- I really don’t like this. I'll investigate this. -- chi?14:30, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- I really don’t like this. I'll investigate this. --
Re: Commons: bajoran ranks
It is pd because drawing them takes little effort and hence a copyright cannot apply. This is like copyrighting starfleet pips which are basically golden circles. Too simple to copyright. Source will be myself. I drew them but I wouldn’t be surprised identical images appear on the web as like I said they are to simple of a design. --
I created
Anything else I can do for you? --
- Everything looks fine now. --EugeneZelenko 15:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry for the trouble. -- chi?16:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry for the trouble. --
AFD
Please vote at this
17:10, 8 December 2005 (UTC- Looks interesting. I think I'll partake in the discussion.-MegamanZero 20:15 8, December 2005 (UTC)
What's up?
- This is Aaron (used to be c2aaron). Had to get a new username. I'm not in Lincoln Place anymore. So, I got a new IP.
- Nice to meet you. Stick around, join us. :)-MegamanZero 23:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Welcome back. Glad to see you sticking around. -- chi?11:20, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
bot
Your bot has stopped working and I have a really old version where can I get the new one and can you restart yours and add in something so that if in 5 mins the amount of suspected vandalism has not changed it will respond to computer restart (checking that you said its nickname) --Adam1213 Talk + 04:41, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- I rebooted the bot, although I suspect ıt started working prior. I'll add that to the things to do. Realise that wikipedia does die and when that happens I do not want the bot to restart. So this will be some hard core programming. -- chi?11:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
"I am not a heavenly creature, please assist"
Remember found days of wiki-stalking and harassment..? Thought you might like to know I got some of my own...(Here and Here) :) -MegamanZero 18:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh I have been continuously stalked since April or perhaps further back... Tonigaku "How about you stop being a jackass?" is a clear violation of chi?00:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- I have no tolerance to stalking. Whatever you do, do not violate any of wikipedias policies. Don’t leave them any room to make random noise and confuse arbcom as stalking generally goes on forever. So long as you play by the rules I will do everything im my power to help you. Ie consider yourself under my wing unless you play with matches ;). -- chi?00:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks Cool Cat. I'm not quite that bold though; I won't violate any policies just to get back at a person. I did, however, add both TheOgry and K Lantis to the list of WP:NOOB, though. BTW, what did you think of my responses in each of those situations..? -MegamanZero 07:54, 10 December 2005 (UTC)]
- It is "OK", some people might complain but not much. I would ignore his comments with any level of incivility, just notify admins on the notice board. Or you may want to RfC him although it may be a bit premature for that atm. -- chi?11:09, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- It is "OK", some people might complain but not much. I would ignore his comments with any level of incivility, just notify admins on the notice board. Or you may want to RfC him although it may be a bit premature for that atm. --
- ..? I don't understand. Could you explain what you mean...?-MegamanZero 14:00, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Star of Life
I enjoyed your commentary on the SOL page: "available on an ambulance near you" --Badger151 06:41, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- ^.^ -- chi?11:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
RE:bot
so where can I get the new bot? --Adam1213 Talk + 08:59, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Ranks of Slovenian Armed Forces
If you're willing, I would like to ask you to make a naval rank insignias of Slovenian Armed Forces. I could use the official images, but they aren't so good as yours (see here). Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic 14:10, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- I will do that, however I want to do all airforce and navy insignias in the process :) You may like chi?03:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Fun, please do not adjust my stress level tho :) --
Sorry
Sorry for tampering with your mood meter, I was just messing with it and did not mean to save it. I had no clue that i saved it.
Im terribly sorry
--Activision45 03:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)Activision45
- No biggie, feel free to copy the structure to your userspace, honest mistakes are fine although some people may go ballistic if people touch their stress meter (I am not one) :) -- chi?04:02, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Problems
I’m seeming to have some problems. If i change the mood meter in my user page. It seems to change yours. Is there a way i can change that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Activision45 (talk • contribs)
- Sure Ill fix it, in fact I already have :) -- chi?11:09, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Images
Hi - Regarding the images you're moving to the Commons, the versions remaining on Wikipedia can't be speedy deleted. According to
- Well, the images I moved are identical with same file format. I just renamed them sligtly so they follow the chi?16:08, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- I was certainly not suggesting that you do that :-) At one point both CSD and IFD said that 'NowCommons' images should not be deleted. Now the pages conflict, with the IFD page saying that they can in fact be deleted. I'll try to figure this out. -SCEhardT 16:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Looking at Wikipedia talk:Moving images to the Commons, it looks like deleting the image IF it is Public Domain is fine. So disregard what I said earlier, except you might want to use a tag like {{db|Now in Commons - Publc Domain images are deletable in this case per [[Wikipedia talk:Moving images to the Commons]]}} to avoid confusion. -SCEhardT 16:28, 11 December 2005 (UTC)]
- Speaking of which, Cool Cat, why does fruit snack redirect to fruit..? They are two different things.-MegamanZero 16:02, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Could you answer the question, please..? :)-MegamanZero 16:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Never mind...it seems someone made an article for it. My mistake; it was a redirect earlier today...-MegamanZero 16:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
A few things thrown your way
- I revamped my userpage: Here
- I settled my differences with K-Lantis in a constructive manner: Here
- I figured out that redirects on wikipedia can be a very bad and sick thing.
- I've learned more and more how to be a better candidate for adminship.
- Question: Why do you have mentors..? You are a very well-behaved individual..
- I added templates to Welsper.
I was hoping you could respond to all these and tell me your opinions. Thanks! -MegamanZero 21:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Nice, I see you copied bits from my userpage, I am honored however you may want to review what you have been accused. :)
- Being able to resolve disputes without involving many bodies of dispute resolution is an admirable talent which admin candidates are expected to have. That is a great plus for you.
- Redirects can be annoying. In the past wikipedia did not have a "Search" button so we were forced to place multiple redirects for basically every possible reference for a given topic. Now with search redirects aren’t all that important.
- Do not worry about adminship, when certain people think you can survive an RfA they will ask if you would like to be a candidate. This does not mean one will immediately be an admin but its more likely that way. Do not feel stressed if your RfAs do fail, I have two failed RfAs and hence I do not feel Ill ever be an admin soon if ever. That’s just how it is.
- I have mentors because Arbcom decided that I needed mentorship. It was one of the decisions arbcom ruled on the arbcom hearing. It is one of the more famous and complicated hearings arbcom recently processed. I am not bothered by this ruling at all, I seek guidance on issues I am not certain what course of action to take rather than risk a disaster. Two of my mentors are people I frequently directed questions at. It is somewhat formal now. The third person I knew about though he is the quiet kind, you know... I also ask for guidance from tens of other users on IRC.
- Nice job, I modified some with some info. Thanks. I was going to do that but then again I really am a very lazy.
- Anything else I can do for you? ^.^ -- chi?22:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Anything else I can do for you? ^.^ --
- Yes, just one more thing- could you take a look at the this and tell me your opinion? I think its nice to have lots of wiki-contacts.-MegamanZero 23:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yup. Looks nice. Its hard to keep track of people at times. I try my contact box with symbols, easier for me and looks better. For your case, you may want to use colors to make it look neet :) -- chi?23:39, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yup. Looks nice. Its hard to keep track of people at times. I try my contact box with symbols, easier for me and looks better. For your case, you may want to use colors to make it look neet :) --
Oh My Goddess! (OVA)
I have added all the plot details I intended to included for
- Oh I already prepared the format for you :) Just edit below the spoiler tag and you should be fine :) -- chi?01:40, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks! I have just added content to Moonlight And Cherry Blossoms: if you like the way I have done it, I can the other four over the next two days. I may expand on this at some later date too, though the plot section should remain relatively static. Elric of Grans 04:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC)]
- Great job, I am eager to see the reviews for other episodes. You may want to never mention trivia for future episodes instead mention trivia on the future episode (in context). Something like "Keiichi's huntch on episode 1 was because of his previous encounter when they were younger." Etc... -- chi?19:18, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Excellent job. IF we had like one or two screen caps per ova it would be perfect. :) -- chi?11:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- I would like to provide some, but I only have old, low-res fansubs of the OVAs --- you cannot get it here. Elric of Grans 21:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- On articles we would use images that are perhaps no larger than 300px. It is better than nothing. Do not tell me that the fansubs are worse than that >_< -- chi?22:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- It is 352x240; fine for a thumbnail, but there would be no option of viewing it at a larger size. If that is OK, I can probably add them this week. Elric of Grans 22:44, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Should be ok, and anyone with better image quality can upload the better version of same picture. ;) -- chi?23:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Should be ok, and anyone with better image quality can upload the better version of same picture. ;) --
- It is 352x240; fine for a thumbnail, but there would be no option of viewing it at a larger size. If that is OK, I can probably add them this week. Elric of Grans 22:44, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- On articles we would use images that are perhaps no larger than 300px. It is better than nothing. Do not tell me that the fansubs are worse than that >_< --
- I would like to provide some, but I only have old, low-res fansubs of the OVAs --- you cannot get it here. Elric of Grans 21:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Excellent job. IF we had like one or two screen caps per ova it would be perfect. :) --
- Great job, I am eager to see the reviews for other episodes. You may want to never mention trivia for future episodes instead mention trivia on the future episode (in context). Something like "Keiichi's huntch on episode 1 was because of his previous encounter when they were younger." Etc... --
- Thanks! I have just added content to
Template
Check your entry about the CVU at
- Thanks, looking. :) -- chi?22:31, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Re: RickK Barnstar
Yay! Now... subliminal message? Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 14:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Now I feel important. I went away for a day, and when I came back, CSD had 50 entries! I deleted 20 or so. How many barnstars is that worth? :P Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 15:22, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- If you did clean up the chi?17:11, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Wouldn't that make me a deletionist? ;) Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 17:16, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Perhaps! :)-MegamanZero 17:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Where did you come from!? Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 17:29, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- No deletionists (my usage of the word) are disruptive people trying to delete knowledge (hence are no better than blankers), this is merely a delete of duplicated images. :) -- chi?17:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Wait, isn't that the page with so many images that it single-handedly brought down the images server once? Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 17:28, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, I speculated the image servers had gone down because I went mad one night and uploaded a mass amount of MegamanZero and Oh My Goddess images; for some reason it crashed after I was done... :)-MegamanZero 17:45, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yea. I think so, my level of edits generally overstress the wikipedia servers. The problem actually was the complexity of the tables not number of images, however after the incident the page was broken into first 3 and then two (total of 6) pages.
- Tonikaku, I am trying to move images to commons, I already moved a large portion and the copies on en must go to wiki hell. I'd love to give you a list but you checking my history would be much easier. It should be among the past 500 edits and it is really hard to miss :) -- chi?18:44, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Wait, isn't that the page with so many images that it single-handedly brought down the images server once? Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 17:28, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Perhaps! :)-MegamanZero 17:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Wouldn't that make me a deletionist? ;) Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 17:16, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- If you did clean up the
odd edits
- Added some more odd edits to my "odd edit section" on my userpage. Take a look at em'.. -_- -MegamanZero 18:34, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Winged logo
Hi, Cool Cat. Photoshop is a graphic program, and doesn't take drawing too well. In any case, I have tried my best to draw your requirement, and if it is not good enough, maybe you ought to find someone who uses a vector program. — PM Poon 19:43, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- It is great. However I ask for a few minor modifications if possible, please. Its my fault because I perhaps did not describe it well. Sorry for the extra hassle in advance :(
- Firstly the wings look great. The golden rigs are pointing in the wrong direction. Aside from that are perfect (see above comparasion).
- Also notice the small reddish rings.
- Aside from those minor points it is perfect.
- Thank you for your prompt response and efforts, honestly I wasn't expecting to hear from you for at least for a week :) -- chi?20:15, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Cool Cat, the original red is more like purple. However, this red seems to be too bright and contrasting. If you have any preference, please give me the hexadecimal color code and I shall change it accordingly. — PM Poon 13:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- The color of #990099 (based on [22]) looks close enough. Actually now you mentioned the smaller rings, I noticed they arc a bit (just a tiny bit). If you can do that we will have absolute perfection :) -- chi?14:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Revision uploaded as per your requirements. I was at first puzzled with the two smaller purple rings. Apparently, it is curved because of the slight angle away from the center. — PM Poon 17:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yup. Thanks. Hmm... -- chi?20:07, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you so much! This shows my work is not in vain! Anyway, why would anyone want to vandalize Belldandy? hehehe.
Stop on by my site and forum, it is in the user page.
- I really dont want to know why. I can understand (yet still dislike) people vandalising chi?20:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Belldandy?
- Speaking of which, I've gone on another bout of overhall madness, and have inserted personality sections into all the OMG character articles. Take a gander at them and tell me what you think. If they need improvement, I'll keep working on them.-MegamanZero 21:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh it always needs improvement, this is wikipedia. Its never done ;)
- Nice work although chi?21:46, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, I've altered Welsper to keep it from sounding a little POVish. BTW, Peorth was pretty hard to analyze...:), but I think I have a talent for character analysis, don't you think..? -MegamanZero 21:51, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Peorth was your best one in my POV. -- chi?22:18, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Peorth was your best one in my POV. --
- Thanks. But you haven't seen anything yet-watch when I go crazy on the Tekken character pages. :)-MegamanZero 22:20, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for inviting me
Dude,
Thanks for inviting me, I liked your page I am stealing some of your code to put on my page is it ok ;).
Cheers, Anil
- I'll be honored if you do. -- chi?21:01, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Spelling
I hope I don't sound too pedantic :) but I've thought "obsolited" has always looked a bit funny. I've checked it up, and it's "obsoleted" with an 'e' [23]. Cheers. Enochlau 01:42, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Awwwww... OK. :P -- chi?14:04, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Barnstar
Thanks. :D But can you put the barnstar on my userpage? I'm too lazy/tired to do it and have it look good. :p --
- It shall be done. -- chi?13:52, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Uploading images to wikipedia
Help, im having troble uploading images to wikipedia. Hamedog 06:11, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- What kind of problems? Do realise wikipedia does not allow certain file formats such as .bmp because of the sake of harddrive space and bandwidth. Also if you simply rename a .jpg as .gif and attempt to upload to wikipedia, the servers will interpret the image as being "corrupt". If that's the case try resaving image on for example windows paint as a .png or .gif which should "fix" it. -- chi?14:13, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. Its working again but before I was trying to upload on Firefox it was saying "Alear, no document' after hitting submit. On internet explorer it was saying page cannot be displayed. It was kinda of odd. Hamedog 14:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- That happens to all of us from time to time. When wikipedia servers are overloaded enough they rarely ignore some requests all together. It is a known bug I guess. We need better servers to compensate. :) -- chi?14:36, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- That happens to all of us from time to time. When wikipedia servers are overloaded enough they rarely ignore some requests all together. It is a known bug I guess. We need better servers to compensate. :) --
- Thanks. Its working again but before I was trying to upload on Firefox it was saying "Alear, no document' after hitting submit. On internet explorer it was saying page cannot be displayed. It was kinda of odd. Hamedog 14:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
My barnstar
Thanks very much - it's always nice to be appreciated. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 12:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- No problem, I think you deserved it. -- chi?14:14, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
numbers list on WP:CVU
if the numbers were only removed to fix up the edit sections I would like them back once we have a way of not having the problem and the numbers. And I know just where we can get someone that can fix it Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) Also on CVU talk page --Adam1213 Talk + 12:54, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- You are correct, functionality comes before looking beautiful. I do not like the removal of the counter as well but currently I do not have an option. :(
- And yes this is a bug (or a feature wikimedia software lacks). Once someone comes up with a way around it, I am more than willing to put the numbers back in. :) -- chi?14:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Contacts
Umm...Can I add myself to your contact list..? :) -MegamanZero 13:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Which contacts? CVU? If you mean on my userpage you have been on there for quite some time now :) -- chi?13:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Speaking of your userpage, I added you as my other mentor (the second being Mr.Sidaway) on your userpage. :)-MegamanZero 13:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Computer2 has stopped
It's still responding to commands, but has stopped posting alerts :-(. Dan100 (Talk) 13:46, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- The bot should fix itself. There is nothing I can do about it until I get to the bot on Friday. I will investigate why this happened (on Friday) and devise a way to fix it so it doesn't ever happen again. The bot should return to service on its own by that time though.
- Do you see the bot on irc.wikimedia.org in #en.wikipedia ? (I also have no access to IRC during weekdays) -- chi?14:54, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- It came back up after about 50mins (I've only just checked). It's in #en.wikipedia but not posting (I assume it's not supposed to). Thanks for getting back to me! Dan100 (Talk) 14:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
-_-;
Okay, looks like I'm hated...please look at my history, and note all the edits by User:TheOrgy are personal attacks.. What should I do...? Note I apologized to him on his userpage before this incident started, mind you. -_- -MegamanZero 15:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Here is how this is going to end, you either stop screaming at each other or warrant mutual destruction of each other. Personal Attacks are NOT welcome on wikipedia. You are welcome to discuss content on articles. You both are violating WP:NPAand hence are equally guilty as far as I care.
- I kindly ask both of you to please discuss article content only NOT each others personalities.
- Please focus on what’s better for the chi?15:58, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- May I inquire how I have been screaming at anyone..? I attempted to talk about the article on a neutral point of view, I apologized to him earlier for my previous shouting out, and I have not committed any personal attacks... How have I been unfair..?-MegamanZero 16:02, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Now stop being a silly sausage is a personal attack. If one side is bad other is not any worse as far as WP:NPAshould be concerned.
- As visible from [24] other party is also violating WP:NPA. Modifying sigs can ALSO be interpreted as vandalism. I am not treating this any lightly than it should be.
- I can only help the side ceasing personal attacks. If you both stop then there wont be a reason for my interference. -- chi?16:14, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Now stop being a silly sausage is a personal attack. If one side is bad other is not any worse as far as
- During this entire situation, I have kept my cool, I have asked nicely for theOrgy to come over to my userpage and talk like civil people. Finally, his supposed "personal attacks" are false: I did not misspell his name on purpose, and I even had enough civility to go back and fix the misspelling...Cool Cat, I understand how people can be wrong in a situation like this, but I know I have attempted to be sincerely kind throughout this whole situation, and I am not afraid to accept the fact when I am wrong in a matter. But, despite my kind gestures, he responded with a barrage of attacks on my talkpage, insulted my intelligence, and tried to use a article's talkpage for his own means. I am asking for a moderator (ie. you) and not one's opinion on who's fault it is in the matter.-MegamanZero 16:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, that’s why sparks didn't fly. He seems to have ceased his behavior (and you too).
- Please understand I cannot take sides when both sides were somewhat "wrong". I am not remotely suggesting his behaviour is remotely acceptable.
- If he touches signatures again I'll see to it that sparks do fly at his general direction as that is not only a violation of WP:NPA but also falls under Vandalism.
- Currently I am treating this as you and him saying things you regret/will regret in hopes that things will be settled with out involving administrators. -- chi?16:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- During this entire situation, I have kept my cool, I have asked nicely for theOrgy to come over to my userpage and talk like civil people. Finally, his supposed "personal attacks" are false: I did not misspell his name on purpose, and I even had enough civility to go back and fix the misspelling...Cool Cat, I understand how people can be wrong in a situation like this, but I know I have attempted to be sincerely kind throughout this whole situation, and I am not afraid to accept the fact when I am wrong in a matter. But, despite my kind gestures, he responded with a barrage of attacks on my talkpage, insulted my intelligence, and tried to use a article's talkpage for his own means. I am asking for a moderator (ie. you) and not one's opinion on who's fault it is in the matter.-MegamanZero 16:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- "Now stop being a silly sausage" was not a personal attack. It was simply a refutation of his baseless attack on me. If I recall, he used a talkpage just to insult me. That line was simply meant to say, 'that's not true, and you're being silly". In other words, I was saying that his assumption on my stupidity and my good faith was incorrect and completely unjustified. Finally, I have not committed any personal attacks; I feel TheOrgy is being unfair, and I do not hold any ill will towards him. I would simply like something to be done about his baseless attacks against me and come to an agreement on the article. But, when I tried, he blew me off and said "I lacked intelligence and proper views".-MegamanZero 16:26, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Look, if someone suggested that I was being a "silly sausage" I would feel somewhat insulted. Your intentions may not be an attempt to insult him but sadly it may be interpreted as such. -- chi?16:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Look, if someone suggested that I was being a "silly sausage" I would feel somewhat insulted. Your intentions may not be an attempt to insult him but sadly it may be interpreted as such. --
- I understand that, and I didn't realize I was being insulting when I made that statement, however, I still would like to know how I have been wrong in this situation. You have said I was "screaming", I was not. You said I was violating WP:NPA, I had not (meant to). Finally, you say, "I have ceased my behavior"...Please, tell me, what I did that was so wrong...I believe I have been very nice about this matter, and I shall continue to be.-MegamanZero 16:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)]
- I placed a notice on chi?17:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- I placed a notice on
Wikipediholic
I stole your Wikipediholic template and moved it to a User template. Hope you don't mind. :-) Ëvilphoenix Burn! 03:08, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Not at all :) -- chi?11:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Though you may want to help me in fixing this: chi?14:10, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Iori Yagami
Cool Cat, please see: [26]-MegamanZero 05:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am glad Tony is handling the matter, I failed you as a good mentor. :( -- chi?11:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- I think you got a little hostile about the situation too quick, but you proceeded to put the incident on the admin board and helped as best you could. You are a very respected mentor in my eyes, Cool Cat, and do not think otherwise. :)-MegamanZero 11:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you note
Hi Cool Cat, thank you for "The Graphic Designer's Barnstar". Actually, the work was nothing much. I am presently spending a lot of time with the Malay language Wikipedia in trying to improve it to the level of the English edition. I will be very glad if you can help me from time to time with some of the technicalities. — PM Poon 12:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'll do everything I can, all you need to do is provide me the links and task :)
- Also you may want to join the discussion in chi?13:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for the welcome, Cool Cat, I'm currently trying to get the hang of editing on Wikipedia, and I appreciate the offer of help. I wish you the best this holiday season, and I look forward to working with the Wikipedia community. MaRoWi 14:36, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Thesis MK- II
Mind looking at this, and telling me your opinion on the talkpage..? Thanks..! -MegamanZero 16:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- I really don’t know anything about the subject. It would not be right for me to comment... -- chi?16:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- You can comment on how I constructed my thesis and the look and construction of my prototype. Such criticism would be appreciated.-MegamanZero 16:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Signature
Can you please include a link to your talk page on your sig? :)
You can achieve this by
- clicking "preferences"
- selecting "raw signature" check box
- replacing stuff in the textbox captioned: "Nickname:" with something like [[User:MegamanZero|MegamanZero]] [[User talk:MegamanZero|Talk]]
--
- Hehe! Cool Cat, you made me laugh. Thanks. Okay, I'll add a sig. :) -MegamanZero 16:56, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Megumi Morisato
Can you assist in completing this table since you have a talent in gathering such info. :) --
You passed 85, now archive! :P --
- Okay, I've overhauled Megumi, and I took the liberty to overhall Sayako as well. Take a look and check em' out if you like.-MegamanZero |transerver 22:25, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'll finish up everyone else tomorrow; I have to construct drafts and thesis for every character's personality section. Now is time for sleep, however... Need anything else..? :) -MegamanZero |transerver 22:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. :), oh is it possible for you to use the template rather than the table, it really does the same thing, template requires less effort. :P -- chi?16:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, I think the template is harder, because I can't keep track of the categories whilst I am writing. -_- -MegamanZero |transerver 16:17, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hmm, how I do it is I copy an existing characters bio and overwrite it with data from tables you provide. Of course I am not complaining but you know... :) -- chi?17:10, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hmm, how I do it is I copy an existing characters bio and overwrite it with data from tables you provide. Of course I am not complaining but you know... :) --
- Actually, I think the template is harder, because I can't keep track of the categories whilst I am writing. -_- -MegamanZero |transerver 16:17, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. :), oh is it possible for you to use the template rather than the table, it really does the same thing, template requires less effort. :P --
- I'll finish up everyone else tomorrow; I have to construct drafts and thesis for every character's personality section. Now is time for sleep, however... Need anything else..? :) -MegamanZero |transerver 22:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Bot down
The bot is down and I still onl have a really old version of it to run. --Adam1213 Talk + 13:18, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- I see. Drini has the updated version, I have no access to IRC or the computer the bot runs on. I'll look into this weekend and the bot should be able to "fix" itself meanwhile. -- chi?13:58, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Fake impersonator account
- User:Cool Cat is a fat fat appears to be a fake user page for a nonexistent account. The admins' blocking tools do not appear, and an attempt to block it failed, saying the account did not exist. -- Karada 16:16, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- According to kate's tool it exists. Type "Cool Cat" on [27]. Strange... :) -- chi?16:19, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Am I seeing wrong? -- chi?16:21, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- According to kate's tool it exists. Type "Cool Cat" on [27]. Strange... :) --
I've found the problem: the "real" impersonator account has a period at the end: see User:Cool Cat is a fat fat. -- Karada 16:25, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- >_< -- chi?16:31, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you and sorry for wasting your time :( -- chi?16:34, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Balloons!
You have been awarded these balloons for no apparent reason. --
- Wow thanks!!! ]
- I decided to exterminate the balloons. Have a nice and safe day, Dr. Freeman. -- chi?09:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- I decided to exterminate the balloons. Have a nice and safe day, Dr. Freeman. --
bot
I don't know about mirc programming but in most programming languages reading or writing to files takes a while and uses CPU. I think that the bot does this. if it had the files contence as variables instead of reading files all the time it could go much faster and use less cpu --Adam1213 Talk + 06:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Somewhat true, reading from the system bus) and of course there is the delay due to hard drive read lag. However, in practice that isn't all that much infact all of it does not even take a second.
- Keeping track of wikipedia requires quite a lot of RAM if you try to keep everything in memory. Just the list of IPs can suck up all the ram like there is no tomorrow. The bot currently does not compare a given IP edit to all of the IP's stored. It follows a makeshift binary search treemodel reading from a sorted system of folders and files (over several thousand files just for IPs. The bot does not even read admin lists, blacklisted pages if a minor edit is made by a user (NullC's bot covers sneaky vandalism so I don’t worry about that as it requires direct access to wikipedia servers which I lack and NullC does not).
- Also the now 700+ lines of admin lists would not fit in a single memory variable on mirc which at most holds 1000 characters. Anything above is declared an overflow and is ignored. A lot of admin usernames have a decent length. So it would take a number of variables just to take care of that. Since the start of the bots lifespan we had about 200 new admins. The growing list will require more and more variables which is increasingly harder to implement and keep track of compared to overwriting a single file.
- These are few of the many problems why I am hesitant to dump it all to memory.
- The primary reason of bots speed is because of my very very slow internet connection. I am yet to convince Brion/Tim to allow me to host the bot on the wikipedia servers which would make the bot reliable however would also make it hard to update.
- -- chi?09:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Archiving
I finally to around to it ! Happy now? :) -MegamanZero|Talk 09:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Cheers! -- chi?09:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- How do you Like the archive infobox layout that I
stoleborrowed from Tony..? Nice,eh..? -MegamanZero|Talk 09:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)- What infobox layout are we talking about? :) -- chi?10:24, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- What do you mean..? -MegamanZero|Talk 11:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Take a look at this: The Mk-II -MegamanZero|Talk 12:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- No comment..? -MegamanZero|Talk 21:29, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Take a look at this: The Mk-II -MegamanZero|Talk 12:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- What do you mean..? -MegamanZero|Talk 11:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- What infobox layout are we talking about? :) --
- How do you Like the archive infobox layout that I
Talk:John Seigenthaler Sr.
(Being bold and removing {{Wikipedia:Counter Vandalism Unit/Watched}}; considerable objections at the talk page. Thanks!)
- What the heck? There wasn't a single mention of the template on the talk page? There needs to be an overwhelming opposition for such a drastic action. You cannot test something without testing it. I am restoring the "watched" template. Please do not consider this as a revert, I just want to test the idea ok? :) -- chi?23:28, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, I should have made myself clearer: there is considerable objections to the use of the template at Wikipedia talk:Counter Vandalism Unit. I, too, have concerns about the use of such a template. Would you mind testing the template somewhere else, perhaps on a subpage of the CVU modeled after a real article? Thanks a lot. Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:09, 17 December 2005 (UTC)]
- Oh I see. The problem with that is I know no one will vandalize the discrete page no one knows about with that template. I placed that template on two articles that are already vandal magnets (its not like we are risking vandalism). If we observe a decrease in vandalism that’s a good sign, if not it is inconclusive. So it is a long process. In light of that what do you think? -- chi?01:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- OK, I see. I don't mind having a "test" of the template, as long as it is kept short (a week or so) and is limited to one page. I still don't think it should be used, but I don't think having a test will hurt either, as long as other people don't object. Perhaps you should remove the template for now and ask other editors if they mind having the template up for a week? Also, if you're going to do a test, I wouldn't recommend doing it on John Seigenthaler Sr.. The former's article is currently part of an ongoing debate about whether to include section editing, and the vandalism will fluctuate with that. The latter will receive less attention throughout the week, so vandalism will bound to drop there. How about at Wikipedia? I still suggest asking at the talk page and see if anyone minds the test for a weel. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 01:26, 17 December 2005 (UTC)]
- Ok, I am fine with that, however may I ask you insert the template ^-^' -- chi?18:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- All you have to do is to ask at the talk page and see if anyone minds; if no-one objects, then you can add the template for a test. Keep in mind that this should be a "test"; I still oppose the use of the template. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 18:17, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Bah people will definitely complain if I suggest anything there exist people who oppose ides just because I am suggesting it. -- chi?19:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, there's nothing I can do then. If people don't think adding the template, even for a test, is a good idea, or if you are unable to post such a message, I can't help you out. In either case, I still don't like using the template for any non-testing purposes. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 20:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Bah people will definitely complain if I suggest anything there exist people who oppose ides just because I am suggesting it. --
- All you have to do is to ask at the talk page and see if anyone minds; if no-one objects, then you can add the template for a test. Keep in mind that this should be a "test"; I still oppose the use of the template. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 18:17, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- OK, I see. I don't mind having a "test" of the template, as long as it is kept short (a week or so) and is limited to one page. I still don't think it should be used, but I don't think having a test will hurt either, as long as other people don't object. Perhaps you should remove the template for now and ask other editors if they mind having the template up for a week? Also, if you're going to do a test, I wouldn't recommend doing it on
- Oh I see. The problem with that is I know no one will vandalize the discrete page no one knows about with that template. I placed that template on two articles that are already vandal magnets (its not like we are risking vandalism). If we observe a decrease in vandalism that’s a good sign, if not it is inconclusive. So it is a long process. In light of that what do you think? --
- Sorry, I should have made myself clearer: there is considerable objections to the use of the template at
Ataturk?
What's this about "all images of Ataturk are public domain"? DS 13:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- It has been over 50 years sice the man died (one reason why all images should be PD) and even when he was alive his photos were declared "national heritage" and hence were a part of the public domain. After all the man was a "national hero". :) -- chi?14:32, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Ataturk (more)
Okay, first, the mere fact of Ataturk having been dead for +50 years does not automatically make any-and-all photos of him public domain. It would make works by him public-domain if he was American (or, um, certain other nationalities; I'm not 100% sure about what the jurisdictions are in which those rules apply). But a photo is automatically copyright of the photographer, not of the subject. Is the photographer still alive? Was the photo taken under the auspices of a corporate entity which still exists?
On the other hand, there's your statement that all photos of him were declared "national heritage". All photos of Ataturk are property of the Government of Turkey, is that it? No matter who took them? Can you provide a source for that? What if it was a photo taken by a non-Turk? Taken and developed outside of the country? Could the Turkish government mount a legal challenge to image ownership if they felt it necessary? If someone found an old photo of Ataturk at a café in Damascus, taken by the café owner, and then left in a box in the café basement for ninety years, would the Turkish government offer to buy the photo? Would they be obliged to do so? What about the image of him on the cover of TIME magazine (Man of the Year, 1923)?
Next, let's assume for a moment that you're correct in that all Ataturk images are property of the government of Turkey. That can mean that they're all public domain. But it doesn't necessarily. Has the government of Turkey explicitly released its images and info into the public domain, the way the US government has?
If so, we should have a formal copyright template - "All images of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk have been declared to be National Heritage by the Government of Turkey, and are thus presumed to be in the Public Domain", or words to that effect. It would be helpful, since multiple Ataturk images have "questionable copyright" tags attached to them. DS 15:13, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes I realise this. But I am having difficulty finding any copyright info. I do not believe Time magazine owns the copyrights for the Ataturk cover of theirs, given they did not take the photo. No one is making copyright claims as far as I can see. Hence why I have no problem accepting it as PD. Throughout my stay in Turkey I never heard of anyone complaing about copyrights regarding Ataturk... I am no expert in the matter.
- I know this is just logic and week legal documentation but I really cant find anything to that extent. -- chi?16:36, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- No one quotes any copyrights when using the images either in school textbooks or newspapers so I do not believe we have copyrights protecting them or else they would be quoted right? -- chi?17:04, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Proposed solution
Newspapers *do* list copyrights on photos, in small text on the side/underneath/etc. Textbooks either list the copyright on the page with the photo, or have the info in a little section at the front or back. Or do you mean, specifically, Turkish newspapers and textbooks do not list copyright info on images of Ataturk?
You can create a "Photos of Kemal Ataturk have been declared National Heritage by TurkGov and are thus believed to be Public Domain" template if you want (I'm not up to creating a template from scratch just now), and attach it to all the images of him on WP; that'll make things much easier from a legal standpoint.
Oh, and as for Time Magazine -[[Image:Time_Ataturk.JPG]] looks more like a drawing than a photo. DS 17:09, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, however on any image of Ataturk we don’t see copyright info. We could do what you suggest, although we probably want better wording. :) -- chi?18:16, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Overhall
As you can see, I've made some big changes to my talkpage. My only problem now is getting the format to match my userpage...see how my talkpage's "pattern" consists of gray..? I want to do that to my userpage, but so far I can only get the red borderlines to encompass it... How do I make the inside of the infobox gray..? -MegamanZero|Talk 21:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- I fixed that one for you. :) -- chi?22:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Now I'll be blunt about a problem with your user and user talk page. If I don't complain about it someone else will, since you are an experienced wikipedian there are some legal issues you may want to fix. Usage of copyrighted images on userpages is a problem as that conflicts with the "fair-use" agreement. All Megaman and megaman zero images are copyrighted by Capcom or other various companies (anime etc). Hence are not GNU compatible. -- chi?22:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- I see. I'll make sure we're cleared on those, Cool Cat. Also, thanks so much for helping me with that, I was doing quite well with making the templates and such, but for some reason, couldn't get that to work...thanks again. Now, most importantly, the question: What do you think of think of it..? :) I got the design as a melding of mine,yours, Mr.Sidaway's, and Master Jimbo's pages respectively. -MegamanZero|Talk 01:35, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Jimbos userpage is my design, some of tonys userpage is also my design and my own page is also my design ;). -- chi?01:58, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- :P I see! So, let me rephrase that: I got the design from Cool Cat! :) Still, the design, it looks nice, no..? -MegamanZero|Talk 02:01, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Jimbos userpage is my design, some of tonys userpage is also my design and my own page is also my design ;). --
- I see. I'll make sure we're cleared on those, Cool Cat. Also, thanks so much for helping me with that, I was doing quite well with making the templates and such, but for some reason, couldn't get that to work...thanks again. Now, most importantly, the question: What do you think of think of it..? :) I got the design as a melding of mine,yours, Mr.Sidaway's, and Master Jimbo's pages respectively. -MegamanZero|Talk 01:35, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Your userpage looks ok (red is a bit to bright but that’s my taste/bad taste) your user talk page has too much stuff. Those are my views based on my taste, you are welcome to keep them as you wish.
- Regarding copyrights, I am sorry but fair use images cannot appear anywhere on your userspace. I do not like copyrights myself but as wikipedias we have to obey international copyright laws. :( -- chi?02:02, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, I understand the copyright situation. My apologies for that. One thing though, may I ask how you're so good at this and all..? I mean, you being a Cat, I mean....how do you type with those paws of yours..? :) -MegamanZero|Talk 02:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Nice logo
It will be just perfect on no.wp! :D — John Erling Blad (jeb) 22:31, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
One of the icons (CVU2.PNG) isn't on commons. Why is that so? I've created the templates on no.wp an directs the users to the english page. — John Erling Blad (jeb) 23:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- NO wiki? Feel free to move the image(s) to commons :) -- chi?23:33, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Norwegian Wikipedia, nowikipedia.org :D — John Erling Blad (jeb) 00:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- I do not think CVU watches over that wiki, which can change assuming there are people willing to use my bot :) -- chi?01:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- I do not think CVU watches over that wiki, which can change assuming there are people willing to use my bot :) --
- Norwegian Wikipedia, nowikipedia.org :D — John Erling Blad (jeb) 00:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Introduction
What the heck are you doing? You locked the introduction page and you aren’t allowing us to merge the history? Wat are you doing? --
- Dammit was trying to fix the stuff server side due to that page, and people kept deleting, undeleting, moving it. — 0918BRIAN • 2005-12-18 01:07
- Meh. Too many RC patrolerS? LMAO! :D-- chi?01:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Meh. Too many RC patrolerS? LMAO! :D--
Wait just a damn minute...
Wait, what have I been thinking..? You've been a great and creative mind at wikipedia, and you've helped so many of us make great-looking userpages... Here, have this barnestar for your creative mind.!
- Thank you for the barn star! -- chi?05:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Could you answer my question, please..? :) -MegamanZero|Talk 02:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- The copyright thing doesn't bug me at all (its not like I own the copyrights), you don’t need to apologies. I just wanted to warn you before someone else ;). Oh, I am not all that great, I make some pretty nasty mistakes from time to time. I try to learn
frofrom them. :). Fluffy paws aren’t all that bad to type with :) --chi?05:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Userboxes
Hi, in the week that I have been here, you have helped me alot! I was wondering something. You have your user boxes in a neat vertical row. I was wondering, how do you put your users boxes in that one big box?
Thanks
--Activision45 05:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)Activision45
- Oh it is through using chi?05:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
PS I almost forgot. Take this barnstar for all your help --Activision45 05:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)Activision45
Thanks
Its great! Thanks a lot!
Ps Ur welcome! :)
--Activision45 00:51, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
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- insanityyyy --Mistress Selina Kyle 18:21, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey....
Are you going to replay to my
]- I will not because I have no right to weight another’s overall edits. So long as ones intentions is to expand wikipedia they are good they can be even better if they follow wikipedia guidelines which exist only to increase the efficiency of the process. Sorry. -- chi?18:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- You misunderstand the question... I meant could you give me advice on areas you think I am lacking in as far as a candidate for admin, etc..? I simply said I wouldn't ask you this until I made it past 2000 edits, but it has little to do with what I am inquiring of you. -MegamanZero|Talk 18:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- ^-^'
- You should IRC more :P.
- editcountism can be fatal.
- -- chi?18:48, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- ^-^'
- You misunderstand the question... I meant could you give me advice on areas you think I am lacking in as far as a candidate for admin, etc..? I simply said I wouldn't ask you this until I made it past 2000 edits, but it has little to do with what I am inquiring of you. -MegamanZero|Talk 18:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- In order:
- I cannot get it to work... -_-
- Absolutely. But its one of the factors voters look at when selecting an admin.
Anything else I can improve in..? You know, like my dealings with other wikipedians, for instance..? -MegamanZero|Talk 18:57, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- Google for IRC FAQs. I really cant explain it better than them :)
- False, editcountism is not an admin criteria. I would be an admin if anyone really cared about edit counts. Edit counts is generally an excuse for people to be dicks and oppose for no good reason.
- -- chi?22:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- In order:
- Okay, I'll try looking it up.
- I agree. But edit counts do show you're constructiveness (to a point).
- P.S.- Could you ask Mr.Sidaway on IRC why he isn't answering the post I gave him on his userpage...? He seems to be ignoring me.. (-_-) -MegamanZero|Talk 23:21, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- ???, oh, and take this, and wash that mouth out :) -MegamanZero|Talk 00:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh I never suffered from editcountism apathy on my RfA(s), people (two being admins) only threatened to leave wikipedia etc. :)
- Tonys connection apears to be unstable, he hasnt been on arc for too long before disconnecting. -- chi?00:23, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
SpongeBob SqurePants
Cool Cat, Caldorwards4 IS removing vandalism. SpongeBob episodes after season 4 are unconfirmed and fail
- He is NOT reverting vandalism, granted wikipedia is not a crystal ball either. I will revert ANYTHING labeled as vandalism when it is not.
- Please make sure he reads and understands Wikipedia:Vandalism, especially "what is not vandalism" section. I would explain to him myself but I doubt he would listen to me.
- Thanks -- chi?22:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- I fear I have a looser definition than yours, then. Adding fanfiction episodes compromises the integrity of Wikipedia by making people assume that those hoaxes are somehow canon or actual when they are not. Regardless, even if it is incorrectly labeled as vandalism, I don't see the point in blindly reverting it and causing an edit war. Explain on the user's talk page what he is doing wrong, and don't revert changes that were beneficial in the end. Everybody's happy. --Apostrophe 23:33, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- You probably do not know the level of vandalism wikipedia suffers from. Allow me to explain on average an RC patroller has about 5 seconds to review a number of pages for vandalism (few tabs). After that 5 secs of review and reverts there are 10 or more new cases to review. You occasionally have to glance at history and if I see multiple people reverting a specific user who is removing lots of sane sounding material, I will not spend too much time reviewing all the details. And that’s for more "obvious" cases.
- Hoaxes fall under WP:POINT not WP:Vandalismthey are still not welcome.
- If my revert of what I suspect is vandalism is reverted back in a few minutes labeled as "vandalism" resulting in the removal of sane sounding content it goes beyond my scope of "Good Faith". "RVV" on edit summaries is reserved for more obvious cases of vandalism such as page blankings.
- If ones "RVV" is reverted as "RVV" one should not revert it without explaining him/herself in the edit summary. Us RC patrollers know each other so we rarely run each other, lots of vandals blank pages labeling it as an "RVV". Now if he reverted saying: "Reverting Hoax see talk" we wouldn't have a problem.
- Please explain all of this to him. :)
- -- chi?01:05, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
- I fear I have a looser definition than yours, then. Adding fanfiction episodes compromises the integrity of Wikipedia by making people assume that those hoaxes are somehow canon or actual when they are not. Regardless, even if it is incorrectly labeled as vandalism, I don't see the point in blindly reverting it and causing an edit war. Explain on the user's talk page what he is doing wrong, and don't revert changes that were beneficial in the end. Everybody's happy. --Apostrophe 23:33, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
selamlar
Selam Cool Cat, türkçe yazmayı uygun gördüm sorun varsa bir dahaki sefere. Kurdistan adı altında bir kategori var, türkiyenin illerine bakarken 2-3 ilde Kurdistan kategorisini silmiştin. Ama buradaki yöneticilerden birisi politik görüşümü karıştırmakla yaptıklarımı geri almış. Burada aktif olan birisi olarak seni gördüm. Bu arada anime konusunda bende meraklılardanım. Türkçe wikide yönetici pozisyonundayım o yüzden buraya fazla ilgi gösteremiyorum. İng. wikideki mesaj sayfamdan cevap verebilirsin, iletişimde olmak istersen. Kolay gelsin--Ugur Basak 21:26, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- Good day - Iyi günler - Konnichi wa (こんにちは),
- Sorry but I really havent mastered any language but English well enough to carry out a discussion with.
- User:Diyako. The best way to get rid of that category is put it up for deletion arguing about inappropriateness. Given it is a controversial subject you really need to build a strong case. I am sorry but it is in your best interest if I do not get directly involved reasons being quite complicated. I simply do not want to risk further harassment.
- Anime is nice. I'd reccomend the ones listed on my userpage although there are perhaps thousands of different series out there.
- What do you think of the Turkish on my userpage, Mind if I ask if you can check for spelling and grammatical errors? :)
- Do you guys in Tr.wiki suffering from vandalsim? If so you are welcome to use my bot in combating them. I can set it up if you guys are interested. You can observe its performance on irc.freenode.net in channel #wikipedia-en-vandalism
- -- chi?22:06, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Cool cat, i get it:) Naruto and Full Metal is my favorites. We can talk later about that bot. I guess you are from Cyprus. I edit some minor things on your page, later i will edit again. There is not so much vandalism, as you can see its still growing. We must stay in contact. Görüşürüz--Ugur Basak 22:30, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- Never been to Cyprus. Although I hope to sometime. :) -- chi?22:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for fixing my userpage :) -- chi?22:58, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I'll do some edits in a few days in your user pages Türkçe part. Anyway its nice to find you. An anime fan, also C programmer etc. etc. So you must born in USA. From which province do your parents come from. My home province Karabük, Safranbolu. Bye
I did some more edits to your page:)Bye for now--Ugur Basak 23:06, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry I keep personal info a matter of out most confidentiality. Please dont take it personal, its just my personal policy :)
- Actually (if you dont mind my asking) can you translate everything in the Turkish section? I'll restructure the page a bit to make it easier. Also feel free to rewrite the section so it looks "better" making it mean more like the english section :) -- chi?23:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
No problem for me. About translations i dont want to promise you but i want to help you. Maybe sentence by sentence:)It's time for me to sleep. bye--Ugur Basak 23:53, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- I also detected a chi?20:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
The test
Cool Cat, when will the test end at
- Maybe because of the template? ^-^'. It can end the second you wish to end, I do not care about it anymore.
- I decided I am no longer going to come up with ideas that may/may not make wikipedia better.
- All I get is people annoying me or oposing my ideas with out bothering to cite reasons. See talk of WP:AGF.
- The only thing people dont push me around too much is when I write about Anime. -- chi?22:39, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- I've removed the template now. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:46, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Deaparture
Hey, Cool Cat. I'm going back to the States with my girlfriend for the rest of the month, and I need you to keep an eye on things for me. You know...vandalism on my user and talkpages, etc. I telling you ahead of time, because I don't know if I will be in possession of a internet connection where I'm going... Finally, could you relay this info to Mr. Sidaway, Oni Okami Alfador, and The Wookiepedian..? They edit the articles I work on, so I need them to keep a vigilant eye too. Thanks, and I'll see you all when I get back! :) -MegamanZero|Talk 06:55, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Merry Christmas!
- Ok, I'll pass the word around. chi?19:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
RE: Hello!
Been busy and keeping my head down. About to get back into the mix though. And dear god your talk page looks pretty.--Tznkai 16:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- What? You in a wiki-trench? O_o'
- Oh thank you, actually lots of userpages out there have been my design recently ^-^' -- chi?16:27, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Citation? YOU ASK FOR CITATION?. OK :) I added the section you requested. Should be enough :P --
- No need to shout at me, I'm on your side. I'm sure it's not long before your list becomes featured (indeed, I hope to be the one that actually promotes it, unless ALoan jumps in first:) ). I'm glad you've already got there with your references - though I'll stick to my 4 day allowance in case there are any further references that strike you as apposite, and to allow for further comments as to whether the list is now adequately referenced, or for other comments. On the face of it, though, it's currently looking that your Christmas Day will include a present of promotion of your list to featured list status. Good luck, jguk 22:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- No I wasn't shouting... Sorry sorry sorry, I am merely excited. :) -- chi?22:16, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Just remember, you shouldn't open your presents before the 25th:) jguk 22:15, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Ok. :) -- chi?22:16, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Ok. :) --
- Just remember, you shouldn't open your presents before the 25th:) jguk 22:15, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- No I wasn't shouting... Sorry sorry sorry, I am merely excited. :) --
Can you check the kanji, romanji on my userpage for me, you seem to know what you are doing :) --
- I am not fluent in Japanese, so I am very slow at reading. Right now I do not have the time (though I spotted a lot of... weird things right away), but either next week or the week after I might have a chance. Elric of Grans 22:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
User Vcxlor
Well I have no intention of keeping up withthe rapid change in good ole goldfishbowland (can you imagine the wat yahhiccup and growgle will be coping with the increased userpage mayhem with urrser boxes) the extent to which yr hnorable self & others (& I while in it) will in all probability (I had no intention of making a link to adam's book as I am thoroughly disbelieving of his explanations of 42) create a user box problem (cermen had 70+ lastcont)which will require surgery or limits - and the extent that one can constantly steal from other users, the userbox 5+ will be redundant I will guess by new year 2006 with some lovely wikipedia usia hiting 100+) viz my own boxes referring to it as mania/compulsive obsessive disorder. There are serious issues mind you, and I would guess that by the 12day of chrsmaass moves will be afooot to do something aboutit. Best Wishes, enjoy it while it lasssts.vcxlor 01:05, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
- O_o; -- chi?10:56, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorryy please lead me to the page that exp-laineth your :0_o I am a bit slow on the upuptake here! surely there-s a page on wiki that lists all these? vcxlor 11:03, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Or should it be Tony the Marine? Ooops I though there should have been a pikkie of a santa but there wasn't!! vcxlor 11:05, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
- Err.. userboxes are limitless, you cant list them all on one page, gotta catch em all! :P -- chi?11:10, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Oh well, have a good christmas and new year, and may all your boxes bring enlightenment and happiness throughout the known universe (or something like that) : # | (no tibetan buddhist or sufi box i note so far) vcxlor 13:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
I would like to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year. Guettarda 17:23, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you! In the volume of work I actually had forgotten the date. Best wishes. -- chi?13:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Is it possible for you to move that page to
- Only if there's a consensus for it. --♥♥♥♥ chocolate!) 16:45, 23 December 2005 (UTC)]
- Hmm.... If I request a vote they mention it to everyone interested in norse mythology and come up with artificial votes. If I move it myself they move it back etc using admin powers. What should I do? -- chi?16:49, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hmm.... If I request a vote they mention it to everyone interested in norse mythology and come up with artificial votes. If I move it myself they move it back etc using admin powers. What should I do? --
- Cool cat, as I suggested on Talk:Skuld months ago, you should attract some people to vote in your favour who are neutral. Until then, there is no consensus to move the article, only in your mind... / Fred-Chess 17:04, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
- I kinda agree with fred. --♥♥♥♥ chocolate!) 17:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)]
IRC bot
Is it possible to put the IRC bot on a new channel to be used by portuguese wikipedians (to fight vandalism on portuguese wikipedia)? How it can be done ? thanks. -- lijealso 22:25, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
- It can be done with a few keyboard commands on my part, however I will need help in translation of the bot. Ill make the necesary adjustments. -- chi?23:42, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
- What needs to be translated? I'll try to do it (or ask some help from portuguese wikipedians). thanks. -- lijealso 23:54, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
- The bot is active at #wikipedia-pt-vandalism I am working on uploading the pages to wikipedia. -- chi?00:10, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'll need the translation of all but the last one of the files listed above, last one has some code in it so is hard to translate others shouldnt be too hard. If translation does not happen the bot will work just fine but will post in english rather than portugeese. -- chi?00:17, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- The bot is active at #wikipedia-pt-vandalism I am working on uploading the pages to wikipedia. --
- Ok. im testing it on #wikipedia-pt-vandalism. I also made an announcement for other users in pt.wiki about this.
- I'll try to translate the files. When finished, i'll post here. Thanks again. -- lijealso 00:55, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh please edit the pages. You do not need to post the translations here, just edit the actual pages :), it would be nice for you to mention when done, although Ill know about it even if you dont mention ;) -- chi?01:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh please edit the pages. You do not need to post the translations here, just edit the actual pages :), it would be nice for you to mention when done, although Ill know about it even if you dont mention ;) --
- Sorry, didn't notice the links had "pt". I think its almost done. Probably needing minor adjustments. lijealso 01:56, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Yggdrasil (Oh My Goddess!)
stub
This is not an anime character, it is merely the super computer maintaining reality as we know it. :P --
- Dude, I've spent the past week sorting through thousands of stubs in various categories, and the only comment I've gotten was from you on this article about five minutes after I edited it. Cut me some slack, would you? Kerowyn 02:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, dont mind me I watch a lot of articles. Sometimes my response time can be unreasonable. I am NOT criticising you. You are doing a decent job which I wouldnt dare (sorting stubs). Is there a stub category for anime "objects"? All I want to achieve from this is the article have the right stub cat. The ignorant and stub person (me) does not know which one that shold be. :) -- chi?02:09, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry if I snapped. It's just a bit aggravating that the only people who notice are the ones who correct me. *sigh* The thankless life of a stub sorter. =)
- Oh, dont mind me I watch a lot of articles. Sometimes my response time can be unreasonable. I am NOT criticising you. You are doing a decent job which I wouldnt dare (sorting stubs). Is there a stub category for anime "objects"? All I want to achieve from this is the article have the right stub cat. The ignorant and stub person (me) does not know which one that shold be. :) --
There isn't a category for "anime objects" specifically, although there is probably a sci-fi/fantasy object section, which isn't accurate at all. Although I think the category is more in need of a section for
disambig
Umm this one is derrived from the nprse tree and fulfils the same duty. One watching the amime will be more than likely of the origin and other ygdrassils on other anime which are listed in the disambig page. :) --
- Well, someone's only going to get to the article from ]
- I just want to make it easy for the reader. The Anime and the norse legends go back and forth quite often although not too much. -- chi?02:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- I see. Like I said, whatever you think is best, you know more about this than me :).--]
- I just want to make it easy for the reader. The Anime and the norse legends go back and forth quite often although not too much. --
- Assuming you know about the mythology, can you check the factual accuracy of norse mythology referances on any/all articles related to chi?02:13, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hey, that sounds like fun! I'll take a look around. By the way, I really dig the tables used in the "Cast" section on the main ]
- You can also use chi?13:56, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- You can also use
- Hey, that sounds like fun! I'll take a look around. By the way, I really dig the tables used in the "Cast" section on the main ]
- Assuming you know about the mythology, can you check the factual accuracy of norse mythology referances on any/all articles related to
Userboxes
Could you please make a general template for the 42 userbox @ Template:User 42 for everyone to use? Thanks in advance, --Jamdav86 10:33, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- Done -- chi?11:59, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
The Almighty (Oh My Goddess!)
Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use
selamlar
Hi Cool Cat, i'm not so active for these days on en.wiki. Mostly spending my time for daily life and tr.wiki. I've seen xmas messages, Merry Christmas to you. Görüşmek üzere--Ugur Basak 20:01, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you, I know christmas isn't celebrated in Turkey though, I know you guys celebrate the New Year thing. Hence best wishes anyways. -- chi?20:06, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- That's POV sentence:)(just joke) In Turkey it's not celebrated among the muslims. But christians celebrate it, there are also some French, Austrian etc. schools, at least they make holiday in Christmas days. We celebrate New year on December 31, i dont celebrate it either:) don't like celebrations.--Ugur Basak 20:18, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!!
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you, CoolCat! In the same spirit of your welcoming me to Wikipedia, I wish you the best this holiday season. Also, when you get a break from your yule-tide celebrations, I'd very much appreciate it if you could contact me; I have some questions about what to do on Wikipedia with POV material showing repeatedly on the same page despite removal. Thank you, and God bless! MaRoWi 07:55, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you, I'd also like to offer a copy of the same best wishes. :) -- chi?20:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
I thought you'd be interested in this recent edit of mine [28]. All the best, and well done for getting it there, jguk 09:51, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you ^-^'. I wish I could offer something in return. -- chi?20:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you. - Haukur 21:50, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- No problem. Anything else I can help you with?
- I know I had caused stress to many of you Norse mythology people, although that wasn't my intention. I still want to make up for it.
- -- chi?21:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Vandals
I am afraid not. I am not an administrator yet. - Mike Rosoft 12:36, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Dont be afraid. :) -- chi?13:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello, you are adding the WoW template to User:64.27.5.168 - I deleted it and I deleted it again. We don't recognise IPs as sockpuppets and we never block them indefinitly. I have not blocked that IP as it has stopped vandalising, so there is no point in adding the template. Thanks. Izehar 13:56, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh OK, sorry for the extra burdon, however we do block IPs on some occasions indefinitely, I really suspect that one is an open proxy. -- chi?13:57, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
It may be, but how do we prove it. I know that there is a way to check, but I haven't found out how to. Izehar 13:59, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
irc bot
just to let you know the irc bot computer2 has gone belly up ;-)
]- eh? -- chi?19:26, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- i.e. It's disappeared. Also please can you send me a version of your bot if possible. ]
- Only possible on friday as I cannot do anything. Net con the bot runs on is unstable due to a variety of problems ranging from power faliures to god knows what. We should campaign so that the bot runs on a wikipedia server :P -- chi?20:15, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Only possible on friday as I cannot do anything. Net con the bot runs on is unstable due to a variety of problems ranging from power faliures to god knows what. We should campaign so that the bot runs on a wikipedia server :P --
- I assume you are ignoring me. ]
- No I am not ignoring you, I only cannot respond the instant you post, geez patience! :P -- chi?20:15, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- I can. ]
- I can too normaly but often I do attention demanding tasks such as modifying the chi?20:20, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Is there any way you can send me your bot then? ]
- No but I am attempting a remote dekstop which I so far havent been successfull. It sometimes works some time does not depends how much the computer I am using the one the bots running and all the ones inbetween feel like. -- chi?20:29, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Where can I find your bot then to download a copy or something? By the way Computer2's disappeared again. ]
- Ill email it to you and I see the bot in the chanel please visit an optician. -- chi?20:55, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Well it left and came back again. ]
- Ill email it to you and I see the bot in the chanel please visit an optician. --
- Where can I find your bot then to download a copy or something? By the way Computer2's disappeared again. ]
- No but I am attempting a remote dekstop which I so far havent been successfull. It sometimes works some time does not depends how much the computer I am using the one the bots running and all the ones inbetween feel like. --
- Fair enough. Is there any way you can send me your bot then? ]
- I can too normaly but often I do attention demanding tasks such as modifying the
- I can. ]
- No I am not ignoring you, I only cannot respond the instant you post, geez patience! :P --
- i.e. It's disappeared. Also please can you send me a version of your bot if possible. ]
Why
Why are you standing in the way of the fight against WoW? Hexagonal 01:18, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am not. The only way RC patroling is acceptable is when RC patrolers do not interfere with the "article writing process", when writing on Kurdistan Workers Party I expect no one (or only an elite few) to know what my ip is. It is easier to write on such topics when you know you have annonymity. Furthermore nutcases such as Daniel Brandtshould never have such access.
- Also as an RC patroler I want my IP kept as a state secret away from people who try to spoof it. It has happened before and my IP has been blocked for vandalism even though it wasn't my doing. I obviously am not a vandal and the vandal spoofing my IP got it by dnsing me on IRC. Since then I have taken mesures to better hide my IP.
- I never underestimate the enemy (vandals), while additional powers if used properly would help us deal with vandalism better, misuse of same powers would create a mess ten times worse. Unlike post sep 11th period in USA, we should not be paranoid at a post Seigenthaler here on Wikipedia.
- CVU as far as anyone should be concerned is a joint effort against vandalism. It should not however hand over power to random people strictly because they are members.
- I do however agree more checkusers should exist strictly to lift the weight from David Gerards sholders. He is doing a decent job but he is having a hard time keeping up with all of it. Arbcom should hand out more check users and the process should have nothing to do with CVU directly. -- chi?09:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- This isn't about Daniel Brandt, nor is it about the Kurdistan Workers Party. We need you to join us in taking the fight to the vandals, not waiting for them to hit us when we're most vulnerable. Preemptive blocking is the only way we can keep them out. We know where they reside, and preemptive blocks will not only keep them out, but cause the disgruntled bystanders to pressure their ISPs to weed out vandals. Hexagonal 23:52, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- What is the point of an editable encyclopedia if no one can edit. There exists admins that use ip ranges vandals also use on the sole fact that they are in the same country/state/isp. What you are suggesting is we ban entier nations from editing wikipedia. It really wouldn't work well. Majority of the people want to help wikipedia be better, the annoying pests (vandals) always stayed in the minority. What you suggested has already been suggested for AOL for example and was heavly opposed. Innocent till proven guilty rather than guilty regardless please. -- chi?10:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- What is the point of an editable encyclopedia if no one can edit. There exists admins that use ip ranges vandals also use on the sole fact that they are in the same country/state/isp. What you are suggesting is we ban entier nations from editing wikipedia. It really wouldn't work well. Majority of the people want to help wikipedia be better, the annoying pests (vandals) always stayed in the minority. What you suggested has already been suggested for AOL for example and was heavly opposed. Innocent till proven guilty rather than guilty regardless please. --
- This isn't about Daniel Brandt, nor is it about the Kurdistan Workers Party. We need you to join us in taking the fight to the vandals, not waiting for them to hit us when we're most vulnerable. Preemptive blocking is the only way we can keep them out. We know where they reside, and preemptive blocks will not only keep them out, but cause the disgruntled bystanders to pressure their ISPs to weed out vandals. Hexagonal 23:52, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
This User is Ranked #420 on the List of Wikipedia Editors!
Congratulations. Whether intentional or not, you are in a favored position. Well done. Thanks for all your inspiration, as well! --Dschor 10:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you! However I am no folowing you, whats this ranking based on? :0 -- chi?11:16, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Rank is based on total number of edits - and you seem to be prolific. See Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits. --Dschor 19:03, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh that. Last time I checked that I had about 1200 edits... man time does fly... -- chi?10:06, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh that. Last time I checked that I had about 1200 edits... man time does fly... --
- Rank is based on total number of edits - and you seem to be prolific. See Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits. --Dschor 19:03, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Balloons!
You have been awarded these balloons for no apperant reason. --
- I can see you're bored... I wonder what comes next... Something about Dr. Freeman? ]
- Awww...-- chi?13:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Wha...? Did I ruin it for you? ]
- No not really. -- chi?13:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Did you forget that you'd already done the "I've decided to exterminate the balloons" thing then? ]
- No, not really. -- chi?14:12, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- What was the Awwww... for then? ]
- No, not really. --
- Did you forget that you'd already done the "I've decided to exterminate the balloons" thing then? ]
- No not really. --
- Wha...? Did I ruin it for you? ]
- Awww...--
- Awwww is the clue. You are to solve the puzzle. -- chi?15:38, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- HINT HINT!!! ]
- -- chi?15:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Aww pwease! Pwetty pwease! ]
- You are hereby awarded these wings as it represents your character best. Now you dont need the balloons, chi?16:26, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Too late, I gave the balloons away to Essjay anyway. BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP. ]
- Thats good. Now you get to keep the wings. -- chi?16:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- What was the "Awwww...." about? ]
- It was about the clue, you failed to guess chi?17:08, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- It was about the clue, you failed to guess
- What was the "Awwww...." about? ]
- Thats good. Now you get to keep the wings. --
- Too late, I gave the balloons away to Essjay anyway. BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP. ]
- You are hereby awarded these wings as it represents your character best. Now you dont need the balloons,
- Aww pwease! Pwetty pwease! ]
- --
- HINT HINT!!! ]
- Awwww is the clue. You are to solve the puzzle. --
Copyright of Image:Original Goddess.jpg
Hi there, thanks for uploading
- who created the image
- the copyright status
If you created the image:
If you haven't already, please add a note in the description of the image saying that you created it.
Next you need to choose a copyright license so that people on Wikipedia know what they can and cannot do with your image. There are only
If you didn't create the image:
If you haven't already, please provide a URL to the site it came from (or the name of the source if it didn't come from a website) and the name of the person or organisation that owns the copyright.
You next need to add a copyright tag so that other users know how the image may be used. Please browse the
Please note that if you do not choose a copyright tag for the image within seven days, it will be deleted. Please could you ensure that any other images you have uploaded also have the above information in the description - you can see a list of the images you've uploaded by clicking on My Contributions and selecting Image from the drop-down box. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask on my talk page. Thanks! --David Johnson [T|C] 21:54, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- It is a manga scan, tagged. Is it possible to use the image where Miyuki wears a goddess outfit? :) -- chi?11:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help there: I had no idea what to do with the licensing. Elric of Grans 19:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Imposters
Someone must really love you today, I've lost track of the fans so far... you should drop in the channel :) Triona 22:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh I am loved. See: chi?22:17, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Award from Dynamo_ace
Keep it up! -Dynamo_ace Talk
- Thanks. I hope to be worth of such an award. :) -- chi?16:34, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Crap
Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use
Don't post anymore of your anti-Semitic crap on my talk page Battlefield 10:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am sorry that was a response I wasn't expecting. Since I am not recieveing any cooperation from you I'll have to inform several people. -- chi?14:19, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- More like your anti-Semitic rant Citation got you no where and now your pissed off. Cordially Battlefield 15:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am sorry, can you restate that in a civil tone so I can start comprihending? Also please define "Anti-Semitic". You seem to call wikipeida templates Anti-Semitic and that kind of confuses me. Also are you declaring me Anti-Semitic? -- chi?16:09, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am sorry, can you restate that in a civil tone so I can start comprihending? Also please define "Anti-Semitic". You seem to call wikipeida templates Anti-Semitic and that kind of confuses me. Also are you declaring me Anti-Semitic? --
- More like your anti-Semitic rant Citation got you no where and now your pissed off. Cordially Battlefield 15:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Don't post anymore of your anti-Semitic crap on my talk page Battlefield 10:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC) (User is responding to my {{subst:test}} waring)
This user is giving me a somewhat hard time with comments such as the one above. User has already made a few rather disruptive edits ([29], [30], [31]) and seems to be a newbie hence I ask for you could explain him as he wont listen to me. I also like a temporary protection on
- Essjay has already taken care of this. User seems disruptive and uncivil. :/ --♥♥♥♥ chocolate!) 15:51, 30 December 2005 (UTC)]
- ♥ chi?16:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- mmmmm --♥♥♥♥ chocolate!) 16:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC)]
- mmmmm --
- ♥
Wings
I hereby award you these wings as they represent your character best, glad you are still with us. --
- Thanks. Kawaii. :) --♥♥♥♥ chocolate!) 16:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)]
Activism vs. encyclopedism
Hi CC, please accept my comment here and at
- It is a slur. Anti-Semitic by dictionary definition is: One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews. [32] hence one declaring random people Anti-Semitic and putting them in the same category as hitler you cant quite think of NPOV. -- chi?01:09, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- I said "encyclopedic criteria and an NPOV title". Who said "random"? Please, do some reading. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 01:21, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thats just it. You cannot declare anyone Anti-Semitic at random. What is the borderline that makes a person Anti-Semitic? We cannot establish that hence we either have to declare random people Anti-Semitic or we will not declare anyone Anti-Semitic. -- chi?01:28, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thats just it. You cannot declare anyone Anti-Semitic at random. What is the borderline that makes a person Anti-Semitic? We cannot establish that hence we either have to declare random people Anti-Semitic or we will not declare anyone Anti-Semitic. --
- I said "encyclopedic criteria and an NPOV title". Who said "random"? Please, do some reading. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 01:21, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
List of computer viruses deletion vote notice
Please help the List_of_computer_viruses stay alive! You seem to have a heavily vested interest in this article. A-Day 23:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you! A-Day 04:08, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oop, looks like there's list of trojan horses. Thanks again (and sorry for bothering you!) - A-Day 22:09, 31 December 2005 (UTC)]
- I appreciate you taking the time to cast your second vote. I'll never bother you again. Thank you, A-Day 22:26, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh you are not bothering me, feel free to inform me of such votes, my comments were directed at the nominator... :) -- chi?23:03, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hey hey! I'm glad there are no hard feelings. On the bright side, the nominator has to be doing a good job editting articles. A-Day 00:58, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well, voting knowledge for deletion is something frowned upon by the masses here on wikipedia ^-^' -- chi?01:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well, voting knowledge for deletion is something frowned upon by the masses here on wikipedia ^-^' --
- Hey hey! I'm glad there are no hard feelings. On the bright side, the nominator has to be doing a good job editting articles. A-Day 00:58, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oh you are not bothering me, feel free to inform me of such votes, my comments were directed at the nominator... :) --
- I appreciate you taking the time to cast your second vote. I'll never bother you again. Thank you, A-Day 22:26, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oop, looks like there's
ORCA images
On the page ORCA Aircraft you placed a number of awesome images, but they do not have a source. I am loath to tag such images with {{nosource}} templetes, so I was wondering if you could add your source. Thanks in advance. TomStar81 00:35, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, they are in game screen captures, I/someone else had taken these from the game movies between missions (the images have been sitting in my drive since the games were out so I cant exactly recall). I do not know how can I cite sources :) -- chi?01:13, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thats ok, with this information I can make the apropriete citations. In this case all that needs to be noted is that they were taken by you during the ingame movies. TomStar81 01:42, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Please do not be incivil. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 02:06, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Your comments and suggestions are not welcome anywhere on my userpace. They are to be ignored. -- chi?02:17, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- templates substituted by a bot as per Wikipedia:Template substitution Pegasusbot 08:02, 26 March 2006 (UTC)]