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Hello Michael, I took note a few minutes ago of an enthusiastic "pass" you made through an article I have on my watch list, Wingham, Ontario, removing those list entries from a section devoted to "notable" locals that have no pre-existing articles in the encyclopedia to substantiate them. In a similar vein; over the past month or so I have been attempting to clean up a fair number of U.S. and Canadian television station list entries containing alleged "notable former employees", that not only have no pre-existing articles to back them up; they have no sourcing associated with them whatsoever. At present, I have approximately eighty such articles on my watch list and have been systematically removing all unreferenced entries that do not have a reference or a pre-existing article. For the most part, other editors have been supportive of my endeavours; notable exceptions include a stable of sock puppets being run by an editor squatting on Chicago area station articles that has been subsequently "dealt with". One more recent occurrence, is centred on a couple of New Orleans area station articles, where; after I had taken the time to reduce the lists to only those entries supported by pre-existing articles; another editor deemed it necessary to restore all the material, without even the benefit of an explanatory edit summary.[1] It's interesting to take note that when they performed that edit; they also simultaneously re-added completely unreferenced material that few would doubt was potentially highly libellous; see "Mike Longman" entry. Could you perhaps have a look at this particular "case" and maybe offer your personal opinion on my attempts to "pare down" these lists of former employees in these station articles in general? Thank you for your time. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 19:16, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if you read the user talk page of 75.139.111.29. If you have, do you have any opinion as to the warnings given to the user after the Sandbox accident?

P.S. First thought I recived when I viewed your photo was, "I should send this guy a crate of Florida Organges." LOL =D -- ℐℴℯℓ ℳ. ℂℌAT ✐ 21:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

- Dank (push to talk) 14:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear OrangeMike, I'll be grateful if you could handle this from here on. Mick Mulvaney is a client of Erin Febel (confirmed via linked twitter feeds), who is editing the page. A warning has been left on her talk page. Similarly, IP 67.197.214.253 belongs to a company (confirmed via WhoIs) which is a large donor to Mick Mulvaney. That IP too has been warned User talk:67.197.214.253. I'd prefer handing this over to you here on. Thanks and kind regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 06:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the message left on my talk page. With respect to the IP, the WhoIs traces it to Comporium Communications, one of the past donors to Mick Mulvaney's campaign.^{[http://www.heraldonline.com/2008/04/19/499752/state-senate-foes-raking-in-big.html]} As the news is of two years ago, I did not know how to proceed except leave a warning note on the user's talk page with a note to CoI guideline. In Erinfebel's case, there is also an Erin Febel on twitter whose twitter messages talk about spending time at Mulvany's campaign headquarters, or joining his campaign etc. That is where I left it and came to you as I didn't want to do a wrong jump of conclusions. Warm regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 17:12, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the disclaimer at the top of the

page also now? Kris1490 (talk) 17:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC) Kris1490 (talk) 17:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help Kris1490 (talk) 18:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

After the false accusation issued] by User:Squash Racket (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orangemike&diff=373091375&oldid=373080014#Squash_Racket), you placed the sockpuppetry tag on my user page.

I request CheckUser intervention to prove that I am innocent, or otherwise please eliminate that tag.

Thank you in advance!

Daccono —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daccono (talk • contribs) 14:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. While I understand (and support) WP's prohibition on promotional usernames and conflict-of-interest edits, I wonder whether immediately blocking TSC Public Affairs was the right move. If TSC had merely updated the number of people on the various lists and added proper citations, we might well have seen that as useful and appropriate. Even the notes about political support were a useful, if clearly self-serving, addition. As for the username itself, I see that as welcome transparency, not something to be immediately shut down. Certainly, whoever created "TSC Public Affairs" is free to operate under a different name, one that will give no hint of his or her ties to the government agency. Finally, I suspect TSC Public Affairs is a relative newcomer to WP, if only because a more experienced editor would have known that uncited additions to an article on a controversial subject would draw fire.

I think the right approach here would be not to summarily block TSC Public Affairs, but to offer counsel about WP policy, especially conflict-of-interest and citation guildelines. Further misbehavior can always be tracked and punished. PRRfan (talk) 18:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

I favor a strict zero tolerance policy on this kind of PR edits, and the spamming in this case was so shamelessly self-serving that I felt no qualms. "Public affairs" offices, by their very nature, tend to be staffed by the kind of people who have trouble comprehending the idea of actual neutral point of view, and treat any indulgence as a license to commit pressagentry and spindoctoring on their masters' behalf. By contrast, for a case where I've been helping the COI editor off-line and she is cleaning up her act, see

User talk:Jcsee. --Orange Mike | Talk

18:59, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:WithdrawnVTJS/Idscoveri

Sorry about that - I recreated the article in user space to be improved there, after I deleted it in article space. I obviously failed to keep tabs on it and support dleting it now. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

the references have now been listed. it is not a conflict of interest, the society exists, it has members and there was not an article pertaining to the society already on Wikipedia, also i am not part of this organization nor am i trying to promote it. it is a non-profit organization, they run the Chemung valley museum and booth library (also non-profit). i just noticed what is and what is not acceptable for sources. the sources i listed are not deemed acceptable by Wikipedia-however these sources are all that exists for information pertaining to the Chemung County Historical Society, prior to reviewing them i could not have produced the article in question-no other sources exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cchs.1836 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

If there are no

simply not notable enough to have an article in this encyclopedia. --Orange Mike | Talk

15:50, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

this is true, however an argument has more than one side. this subject is notable because it has refurbished a building on the national register of historical places, accreditation from the American association for museums and other various awards, and runs an archive that citizens can use for research and a museum that is open to the public.

there are other articles on this site that use sources similar to mine (things that they published), i wish to know why there articles have not been moderated---

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_Island_Historical_Society

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunswick_Historical_Society

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Antiquarian_Society

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Historical_Society

if my article is not notable enough for wikipedia, then why does it seem that these are. i know that you are one person and can only review so many articles but these links have been on wikipedia for quite some time-there are four pages, for some reason only two will show up, the two unlisted are the brunswick historical society, and the newport historical society. i am not attempting to suggest the deletion of other articles, i just do not feel that it is right that my article is removed when these articles and articles such as this exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silly_Bandz —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cchs.1836 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC) — Cchs.1836 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

1. I did not propose the deletion of that article; some other editor did. Please actually read my contributions to the discussion, which include adding a "rescue" tag to the article itself!

2. It is not your article; it is an article you started and have worked on.

Nobody "owns" an article in Wikipedia.

3.

"Look at these other articles!"

is not an argument for the retention of any particular article, though it may be an argument for the deletion of the other one(s).

4. Silly Bandz are much better known in modern America than this historical society. You and I may not find them notable, but many children, retailers and merchandisers do; thus, you and I must deal with it. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:45, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

ok sorry i did not know you didnt post for deletion, im still learning the basic features of this site, i started the article as a project for a museum im working for to get community service hours. i know that i dont own the article, but my comment included multiple articles and i didnt want any confusion by saying -the- article, as for the

) 11:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Starship Troopers

I agree with your position to keep the segment in, keep up the good work.Wowaconia (talk) 02:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi User:Orangemike,

I was communicating with

page. I know I have several things that have to be changed as noted in the information box above the article. Do you have any specific suggestions, other than wikify? I am new to the Wikipedia world; and am trying to edit the article as closely as I can within the Wikipedia guidelines. However, I still seem to be having trouble with understanding specifics that needed to be changed. Also, I thought the notability of the company was proven in the provided references. I appreciate your help. Thanks, 12.26.42.10 (talk) 19:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced

) 00:10, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Christopher Herrod

Without any verification that he was a state senator, there was a question of whether the person is notable. Active Banana ( bananaphone

Hey OrangeMike, I was thinking about talking to you about LINKELS Josy‎, looking through his history and Contribs I think this user does not speak English at all and is using something like Google translator to translate everything he contributes, French seems to be his native tongue. I posted on the content board not sure where else to post asking what should be done about most of his contributions since they all seem to be about the same person with no references or not coherent. Is our only option to go to each page and individually undo each of his edits over the past year? - Mcmatter (talk|contrib) 15:07, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

He seems to be self-advertising; so yeah, I'd say we're gonna have to despam every article he's been inserting himself into. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:12, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok sounds good, I didn't want to be too bold over a language barrier, thank you for your quick reply - Mcmatter (talk|contrib) 15:15, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Back in October, he seems to have machine-translated the entire Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple page as of that moment into French, and substituted the machine translation for the then-current text! --Orange Mike | Talk 15:16, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Nice that was obviously caught earlier, he has previous warnings on his talk page he translated but I couldn't recover them when I added the nowikis to his page, to make the newer ones appear properly. Whats the standard practice to deal with a user like this? This is the first time I ran into a non-english delinquent on en.wikipedia. - Mcmatter (talk|contrib) 15:31, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Your edit tag stated "the spelling in here would embarass a clever 11th-grader"; the correct spelling is "embarrass". In the future please aid the project by correcting spelling errors instead of merely adding a clean-up tag while trying to be witty.--76.17.147.126 (talk) 02:17, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

The misspelling was a clumsy efffort at humor; the tag was because I didn't have time to fix the whole thing at that point (I've finally gotten my watchlist down below 10,000 articles again). --Orange Mike | Talk 17:21, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

(i am posting this request on your page and on one other admins, i hope thats not forum shopping, as im not asking you to "vote" on the afd) I have noted your work at various locations, you seem like a smart, level headed person. Could you look at Gabriel Cousens, an article with some potentially libelous content which is being disputed for its reliability. article has an afd going, with at least 2 issues: notability of course, and a request from the subject for deletion of the article as a repository for libelous content. I "voted" to keep (based only on my interpretation of my searches), but that was before Mr. Cousens weighed in. I dont know procedure for that request, and subject is not so obviously notable that we cant consider it. I will support consensus, but would also like to know what happens next. I have not edited the article, preferring someone else not so involved to look at it, but my inclination is to immediately remove the controversial content, and delete the record of it-but im not 100% certain this is right.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey Mike, Earlier in the summer as you recall we had this correspondence:

If this is true, please find a reliable source. Amazon is notoriously a venue for spamming, vanity insertions, and general mishegoss. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC) We need an impartial third party, such as a book or magazine article; not a Brandeis U. source. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Here's that third party: http://aldf.org/article.php?id=1441 (see the blurb at the bottom). I don't want this to seem like an editing war... do you want to revert your reversion? Thanks!Goingforthetruth (talk) 22:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it's not an edit war; but that little squib at the bottom of the article is a fairly weak source. I'd think a claim like that ought to be easier to back up. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:11, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I think all these sources, some of them legit, really add up. But that aside, the publication at least deserves mention in the Brandeis entry alongside other student life mentionings.Goingforthetruth (talk) 11:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering, is this a template: "Yet another bogus report by a thwarted and incompetent vandal." I'm not sure if you type that, or if it's a template.

) 00:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Nope, just my own words, cut and pasted. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:14, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, alright. Thanks!

talk

) 01:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

The copied part, written by User:TomasBat, User:HaeB, User:Ottre, User:Amorymeltzer, and User:Tony1 in the 2010-05-19t04:39:46z version in the SignPost article:

Vargas Aignasse presented a law project to increase sanctions against those who commit plagiarism. But in the project proposal, to define plagiarism, he copied 331 words from the Spanish Wikipedia article on the topic (es:plagio), without any kind of attribution. The copy-pasted text even includes square brackets from the (only partially removed) footnotes in the Wikipedia article.

It wasn't the first time that Aignasse copied text from Wikipedia into law proposals. In a proposal to prohibit barra bravas from travelling to South Africa for the World Cup, he copied 314 words from the corresponding article.

A week later the Deputy admitted in an interview with Clarín that he copied the text from Wikipedia, and that he had done it before. Nevertheless, he argued that he had no obligation to cite the source, which could be considered ironic given the fact that the Deputy's law proposal seeks, precisely, to punish those who don't cite sources.

The incident was

which you copied to Gerónimo Vargas Aignasse 2 days later on 2010-05-21t15:37:56z:

Vargas Aignasse presented a law project to increase sanctions against those who commit

footnotes

in the Wikipedia article.

It wasn't the first time that Aignasse copied text from Wikipedia into law proposals. In a proposal to prohibit barra bravas from travelling to South Africa for the World Cup, he copied 314 words from the corresponding article.

A week later the Deputy admitted in an interview with Clarín that he copied the text from Wikipedia, and that he had done it before. Nevertheless, he argued that he had no obligation to cite the source, which could be considered ironic given the fact that the Deputy's law proposal seeks, precisely, to punish those who don't cite sources.

The incident was

Please see Wikipedia:Plagiarism on how to fix it.

The license used on Wikipedia,

17:49z

Attribution in edit summary performed; thanks for pointing this out to me. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:16, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't see it in the article's history log. Was it done somewhere else? -- Jeandré, 2010-08-26t05:44z

Bump. -- Jeandré, 2010-08-29t14:19z

Hi fellow editor, I have done a bit of a hatchet job on Chahal Jats, as most of it was unsubstatiated gibberish. If I had my way, I would remove all these surname related articles on wikipedia. Thanks --Sikh-History 14:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

There is a call for deletion for the newly created category Clarion Writers' Workshop. Care to weigh in?Shsilver (talk) 15:53, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for standing up for the Clarion Workshop category

... At this entry on the page. I was beginning to feel a little discouraged. Artemis-Arethusa (talk) 20:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I suspect strong prejudice against SF on the part of the original nominator, but then I always suspect strong prejudice against SF in these cases, for historically sound reasons. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:20, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

See this (Bill Thomas (writer). Dabomb87 (talk) 23:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I haven't had any luck getting User:Arctic2012 to contact me or discuss anything. Obvious conflict of interest of some sort. Fred Talk 07:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

You might want to look at this AFD, the author dug up some sources. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 21:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

hey orange mike, i have written an article "todd white- artist" and was hoping that i could continue getting some feedback from you. you're the only editor who has provided much advice thus far, so thank you for that. my article was tagged as the author having a personal connection or relationship with the subject which i would like removed. i am simply an art enthusiast and free lance writer. i'm not trying to promote anyone on wikipedia i can assure you. i was well aware before i started the article that kind of writing was cause for deletion. i'm merely trying to provide the details of high points in this artist career- details which are facts which i have backed up with what i hope you'll find to be reliable sources at this point. specifically however, the sentence referencing the limited edition US postage stamps, you clearly weren't a fan of. i think it's a really interesting fact about his work and certainly worth mentioning. that truth was covered in several press releases produced by warner bros. and the stamps can still found on several websites for purchase....although i'm guessing using that as a reference won't help my case for "promoting the artist"! :) can you offer an additional idea. i would really like to keep this information as part of the article. i tried to make a few edits this evening i think you'll appreciate. please keep me posted! thanks so much. LindsayCervarich (talk) 06:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LindsayCervarich (talk • contribs) 06:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello, can you please take a look at my page and let me know what you think about it, and if i can now move it to published articles space? thanks this is my page: User:Sazarian/EVER_TEAM. --Sazarian (talk) 16:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I marked the talk page of User:Humber Marketing & Communications as potential COI and his/her only edited article Humber College similarly. Looks a lot more blatant than User:Greenbankliverpool whom you quite rightly took action against a few minutes ago. Regards  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   14:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

On another page, someone removed a contributing editor tag saying more evidence was needed. Okay. Would you think a contributing editor tag listing you might be appropriate in that instance? --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 00:51, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I live in Wisconsin; I read books; I'm a library user; I have GLBT friends and family; I'm a First Amendment advocate. On the other hand, I couldn't find West Bend without a map, and never go near it voluntarily. None of these constitutes a "personal connection" in any way I can think of. Do you disagree? --Orange Mike | Talk 01:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Nope. Thanks. I see no COI there based on the above. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 01:50, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I got your message about signing off on talk pages. Sorry for the error on my part. I also noticed some additional edits to the Todd White- artist page, but there was no response to my request about removing the tags. The original request is below under "help with clean up". Your feedback on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again- look forward to hearing from you. LindsayCervarich (talk) 18:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

1. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR MESSAGE AT THE BOTTOM, NOT THE TOP, OF THE PAGE!!!!

2. Please, please, please: read

WP:RS; both Art News Today and Art Business News sound like iffy sources. --Orange Mike | Talk

22:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Can you check this users contributions: [2] and see what you think. Thanks. Active Banana ( ^bananaphone 13:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Mike, my name is Paul Slinger and I work for the PR agency Edelman. I am sending this note on behalf of my client, Rashed who works at Mubadala. His IP address has been blocked from posting. Please kindly see the note below.

Many thanks, Paul

---

Dear Mike,

My name is Rashed Alharmoodi, and I work in the communications department for Mubadala, a large business based in Abu Dhabi which holds interests in companies like GE, Ferrari, and others. Mubadala greatly values Wikipedia and the contributions from editors like you who have created one of the world's most important information sources. We also recognise and appreciate that Wikipedia is a resource shaped by the community, and that there are clear rules against corporate participation, self-interested edits, and conflict-of-interest edits.

As you have noticed, I have been attempting to engage with the Wikipedia community openly and transparently to suggest some purely factual changes to the entry about Mubadala, in the spirit on ensuring that it is as accurate as possible. After several months of attempts, I recently resorted to making some of the most pressing edits myself as it did not appear that anyone from the Wikipedia community was particularly engaged with the entry. We did so only after first posting a request to the entry's discussion page and attempting to directly contact the one editor who had been active in the entry in recent months. (You can see it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NerdyScienceDude) I realise that you have now reverted the changes that I made, and also blocked my username from making any further edits.

With all of that in mind, I would very much appreciate it if you could suggest the most appropriate means for connecting with someone in the Wikipedia community and asking them to consider the changes that I have suggested. I would be very grateful for your advice.

Sincerely,

Rashed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.96.71.137 (talk) 17:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Orangemike, could you explain why this user was blocked as result of their username? I don't quite understand how it could be perceived as offensive; perhaps I'm missing something. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 13:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm especially confused that you told the user that their username is a vulgarism... GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 13:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

"Adam Wants A Nookie" or maybe "Wants-a Nookie"? The editor's only edits had been to create an "I rock, dude!" autobiography of a teenager named Adam Peake with no assertion of any kind of notability whatsoever. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

It seems more likely that it's simply "Adam wants a

nuke", surely? In any case, I don't think this could be called a blatant username policy violation. GiftigerWunsch [TALK]

13:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I've been reading so much transcribed Japanese recently that I was pronouncing it in my head like a Japanese-American name: Adam Wantsanuke. Block is to be removed. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Heh, that's definitely the best reason I've heard for blocking a username so far ;) Thanks for taking a second look. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 13:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey OrgangeMike. Almost as soon as I'd made an edit, you were asking about it! I'm not aware of the official results you refer to; but you can [my reasoning] if you'd like. —Felix the Cassowary 19:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I was going by http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/guide/svic-results.htm --Orange Mike | Talk 20:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

If you could check out something - there was a PuI listed on August 23 (Possible derivative uploads by User:83d40m) that became very lengthy. I noticed today that the nom had self closed the discussion and re-listed. There is no link from the old discussion to the re-listed discussion, only to a "new" archive of the old discussion as the editor removed the entire discussion - they simply cut and pasted it to the "archive" location. The "archive" discussion also does not include a link to the "re-listed" version. Under today's Pui discussions there is a listing that says Relisted from August 23. See the subpage discussion at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/Florida uploads by User:83d40m. I am not sure why this was re-listed, it may have to with the nominators Rfa and the Oppose opinion voiced by User:83d40m. The process of self-closing/re-listing/cut and pasting the entire Pui discussion seems out of place, so I am here asking you for your opinion on the matter. Soundvisions1 (talk) 16:12, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Mike, I noticed you've made a couple of reverts and such with the Travis Bean article. Not sure what you know about the page, but the new models that are being added aren't actually Travis Bean guitars, but a knock off from germany basically using the page for advertising. Do you have any advice on how to deal this this? hellboy (talk) 22:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Delete 'em, with a full explanation in the edit summary. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:56, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for providing the authority as to not using other Wikipedia articles as sources. I guess what I must do, in circumstances where I believe there is complementary information in another article that merits reading along with the current article, is a "see also" reference? It seems to me that points in certain Wikipedia articles merit being read together--such as an article on an album by an arist, where there are related details in the article on the particular artist. Does this seem reasonable--referencing another Wikipedia article as complementary or supplementary, rather than as an authoritative source in itself?

Dreadarthur (talk) 14:51, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

That's what

wikilinks are for: to lead the reader to another article on a related topic. I see "See also" sections as a confession that prior editors have failed to properly integrate the related information into an article. If there is useful information in another article, that information has to have come from some cited reliable source. Cite the original reliable source, not the Wikipedia article which relied on that source. If the article on Fred Btflspk says he wrote the lyrics for the album Milwaukee Nights while riding a dromedary through the streets of Ulan Bator, don't reference the Wikipedia article on Fred Btflspk in the Wikipedia article about the album, reference the source which the Wikipedia article on Fred Btflspk cites for that assertion. --Orange Mike | Talk

15:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

"gratuitous pseudo-logo"

I wonder if you will be removing File:Wikipedia wordmark.svg from Wikipedia as well? –xeno^talk 16:14, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

I have seen that you work a lot with new spammy corporate articles and I trust your expertise. Can you take a look at this one and see what you think? Thanks!Active Banana ( ^bananaphone 17:51, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, you deleted a page I created for the British Martial Art, Tang Sou Dao. Please check out these links and see if you agree if these refernces are sufficient to show it meets the notability requirement: [[3]] [[4]] [[5]] Or just google "Tang Sou Dao". Cheers, The Yowser (talk) 14:06, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

1. I didn't delete it.

2. Nope. You've got a) a commercial website; b) an article (from that well-regarded center of sterling journalism, The Sun) about another subject altogether, in which a guy who teaches TSD says good things about it; and c) another commercial website. No hint of notability. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm truly sorry I was naeeve and dumb I did not understand how the wiki was working I*t will never happen again.... -- RealBigSwede (talk) 14:08, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

• Dennis Nackord · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Hi, as the Webmaster involved has followed a reasonable process via OTRS of addressing copyright, I suggest the article is userfied for them to resolve and seek advice on the G11 issues. Re-deleting without giving opportunity for improvement appears rather harsh (similar note raised on the undeletions page). Fæ (talk) 11:02, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

As long as the spam is not retained in article space. Frankly, I saw nothing salvageable there. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Because you participated in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Some Person/The Real Secret Page and Secret Barnstar, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Secret pages 2. Cunard (talk) 06:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I've started the following list pages, on the idea that the various Clarion workshop pages were getting too cluttered with names and should probably be pared down to a prominent few. I'm not sure I'll have the time, or sufficient knowledge of who should be kept on the main pages. Since you've had an interest in the Clarion workshop pages, I thought I'd let you know:

• List of Clarion Writers Workshop Alumni
• List of Clarion Writers Workshop Instructors
• List of Clarion West Writers Workshop Instructors
• List of Clarion West Writers Workshop Alumni
• List of Clarion South Writers Workshop Instructors
• List of Clarion South Writers Workshop Alumni

Artemis-Arethusa (talk) 17:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Oy gevalt. Happy to help. -- Rrburke (talk) 21:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

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) at 06:46, 14 September 2010 (UTC).

BrendaBooker (talk) 22:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)BrendaBooker Please see User:BrendaBooker/SEO 2.0 for recreation of article with no ulterior motives.

This is out of hand. The user in question added two inappropriate links, one to

at 17:54 on 14 September. Both were reverted and I warned the user at 18:03. (uw-spam1)

With no further edits by the user, warning #2 was given at 21:19 14 September by Orange Mike, warning #3 at 21:19 14 September by Orange Mike and a final warning at 8:04 15 September by TeleComNasSprVen.

I am reverting warnings 2, 3 and 4. If either of you are unhappy with my action, feel free. -

talk

) 15:44, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Globus family of brands

You posted a message on My Talk regarding the Globus family of brands article I submitted, confirming (I think) the article's speedy deletion citing a "conflict of interest." Please note that every bit of information in the article was sourced by reputable third-party editorial resources (as indicated by the sourcing throughout the piece). I encourage you to click through on each source to see that all information provided is done so in an unbiased manner.

Given this, I have requested that the article be restored (I'm asking you and I have asked JamesBWatson and Yousou). Please assist with this in any way you deem fit. And, if you have further suggestions for making the article more neutral (again, after clicking through the resources provided), I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

It would also be helpful to get your insight on how this article differs from other travel companies on Wikipedia: Hilton Hotels, The Travel Corporation, Starwood, Carnival Cruise Lines, Uniworld, Etc.)

Thank you for your time, consideration and suggestions. (Melaniegravdal (talk) 15:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC))— Melaniegravdal (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

1. I notice you don't address the question of your blatant conflict of interest, which is all over the internet anyway. Your editing history shows no effort to do anything in Wikipedia but publicize Globus and Avalon.

2. Lines like "setting a new standard in small ship cruising" do not make it easy to pretend that you are not trying to write an advertisement here. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Due to my watchlist, I already saw it. Thanks for the notification anyway.

Many Regards, Yousou (talk) 16:19, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

• Hi OM, can I request a userified copy of that article? I will modify my "user-friendly" explanation and leave it for the COI user, which should explain exactly what the problems are with the Globus articles. Not being able to see the deleted ones, I can't cut/paste some of the more obvious promo language. Thanks! Arakunem^Talk 16:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I am not advertising anything! It is a real hobby that more than 300 people in the US ALONE do. I don't know why you call it advertising. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Airplanegod (talk • contribs) 20:20, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

In other words, approximately one of every million Americans does it. Take a look at the wording, then read

WP:CRYSTAL. --Orange Mike | Talk

21:07, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, Fine. So, when is it going to get deleted? Airplanegod (talk) 23:17, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi there OrangeMike. I'm not really sure how I'm going to start getting this section resolved. There's a part in this article section that I thought does not seem to have a NPOV. The first sentence that says "In April of 2006 Hyland sold a 16-acre estate in Malibu to Teodoro Nguema Obiang Mangue, a highly controversial political leader and the quasi-prince of Equatorial Guinea. There's a reference article but reading through it, I've found some points in contrary to what the section editor tried to put out. There's a part in the article that said ""the malibu city or organization didn't know who was the buyer either", so if the city didn't know about it, then that only means Jeff knew less, or no clue at all. How do I go about this? 'just wanna do it right. I'd truly appreciate your inputs. Thanks very much. Jxc5 (talk) 16:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Orangemike,
I've re-added the deleted talk pages Talk:2010 in Afghanistan and Talk:2009 in Afghanistan without contacting the deleting admin. I fully admit that this was mistakes on my part; what's more, I should know better.
This message popped up when I began to edit Talk:2008 in Afghanistan:

A page with this title has previously been deleted. If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below. 22:24, 1 December 2009 Orangemike (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:2008 in Afghanistan" ‎ (G8: Talk page of a deleted page)

So, now I'm doing the right thing. 2008 in Afghanistan has a page. I'm contacting the admin that deleted the talk page. Is it OK with you if I re-start Talk:2008 in Afghanistan?--Shirt58 (talk) 13:28, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Sure, of course; the prior version was the talkpage of a non-article; now there's an article. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:40, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

With that page creator scattering duplicate pages across the wiki, I thought it would be easier to find all the dupes and clean up the mess by redirecting them to a single page. I hope that made it easier than harder, but I stand to be corrected. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 14:16, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

There was a single spammer, so I just followed his/her edits. It's all good, man.

Hi OrangeM
This

) 12:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Mourant Ozannes

article

Hi Orangemike, I declined the speedy deletion request for the above article as its claim that it is "the world's third largest offshore law firm and the largest in the Channel Islands" would be a claim to significance/importance.

However, I have PROD'd it, as I can't find evidence that they meet the notability guidelines.

Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Through new account User_talk:Heavenonearthindonesia to avoid your block, new article Heaven On Earth Jazz Band and already deleted Heaven on earth indonesia. Regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 18:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for deleting Relapse board game. I thought myself it should be deleted, but decided to put a "proposed for deletion" tag on it instead of deleting it outright just on the chance the article might have some hope (although I fully expected it to get deleted in the end). I guess it was all the better it was deleted so soon. JIP | Talk 15:47, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, just wanted to have it clarified (to know for again) in what way it was not constructive - I had edited my own comment. (ref. to discussion about illustrations on cum shot). 62.254.133.139 (talk) 18:00, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

No, you edited a comment by a totally different IP, 82.18.164.15. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I don't know why that is happening, I'll leave it as it is. But I am the same user. It is allocating me two different IPs. one beginning with 62. and one beginning with 82. 62.254.133.139 (talk) 18:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Can you please un-delete the page so I can add references to Billboard, and other sites that will verify for you that this man really did produce these albums and sold over 1.9 million copies? Thanks.

Elitefirm (talk) 18:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Draft articles should be created in a sandbox like User:Elitefirm/GrimRhodes. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello Orangemike. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Harrison Nash, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article claims coverage in reliable sources. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 22:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Twinkle didn't finish the nomination. Fixed for you. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 00:16, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello Orangemike. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Marie Rutkoski, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: PROF is enough for A7. Take to AfD if required. Thank you. GedUK  09:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Essentially you banned me the actual employee of Tau Epsilon Phi. The individual that should have been banned was Nate3k and Teps4justice. They have no affiliation with the organization. Please assist.

To Whom it May Concern,

My name is Clinton Hasenberg and I am the Director of Communications for Tau Epsilon Phi Fraternity, Inc. I am writing to you as an official representative of Tau Epsilon Phi National Fraternity, Inc. regarding the entry in Wikipedia located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Epsilon_Phi .

The information that is being listed on the site is lacking in accuracy and legitimacy. I recently established an account TEPNational with Wikipedia to address the issues at hand and remove the inaccurate statements. Each time that the statements are removed by me they are placed back on the entry.

Tau Epsilon Phi is a non-profit fraternal organization. The information about our organization is constantly changing. The citations referenced on several of the Wikipedia headings are from over three years ago. As a matter of fact, the individual(s) posting this information represent themselves with the login as TEPs4justice and Nate3K. The individual currently posting this information is currently under litigation for Trademark infringement and other charges such as posting defamatory statements about Tau Epsilon Phi as well as its board of directors.

The individual(s) posting this slanted information is using Wikipedia a division of Wikimedia as a forum for misrepresentation and posting incomplete and erroneous information.

Please examine, the heading Broughty v Hassenberg. Usage of such heresay statements as “determine its fate”, “is being charged” and “will decide the fate of TEP” are not statements of fact but rather statements of opinion. The entire heading itself is self-serving to the poster and not factual in nature.

The heading Grand Chapter is also completely erroneous and inaccurate. The information regarding our internal corporate bylaws is not public information. It is not posted anywhere and not subject to interepatation by someone posting such information that may or may not even be a member of our organization. This heading needs to be completely removed.

The Grand Council and NCCM headings are also outdated and inaccurate and need to be removed. The reference to www.archive.org is only a small snapshot in time in this instance 2005 and 2007 respectively. The paragraph under the heading was written in the present tense as though everything “is” the way it is described. This makes the entire heading false and without merit.

As the official Director of Communications for Tau Epsilon Phi National Fraternity, Inc. I humbly ask Wikimedia to please delete those headings I have referred to as well as place an edit freeze on the Tau Epsilon Phi Wikipedia entry located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Epsilon_Phi.

This will allow our organization to read through the current content and publish factual information about our alive organization and trademarked name Tau Epsilon Phi Fraternity Inc.

The Wikimedia vision statement states Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.

The Wikipedia entry defines knowledge as expertise, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject; (ii) what is known in a particular field or in total; facts and information; or (iii) awareness or familiarity gained by experience of a fact or situation.

Please observe the desire for Wikipedia to freely share in knowledge. Knowledge is factual in nature based on expertise or skills acquired by a person through experience or education. With that being said statements of opinion such as those I described above by individual(s) who may or may not be members, are damaging to our 100 year organizational reputation.

I look forward to your assistance in this matter.

Sincerely,

Clinton Hasenberg Director of Communications Tau Epsilon Phi National Fraternity, Inc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.145.18 (talk) 15:06, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Tau Epsilon Phi, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see

15:10, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Exclaimer

• Exclaimer (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Hey, this user has appealed their block on unblock-en-l. I have explained the corpname issue, but after looking at the draft article she was working on, I am not satisfied that it meets G11. COI issues aside, can you elaborate on exactly what problems you had with the article content? Thanks, --Chris (talk) 18:28, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Aside from the obvious promotional intent as indicated by the user's name and identity, I was particularly unimpressed by the line "received awards for Microsoft compatibility, including "Works with Windows Server 2008 R2"." Calling something like that an "award" is a pretty telling sign. The "article" in general is mostly a product line listing, and the "sources" primarily press releases. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:06, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. If I ever get a reply from the user I will raise those issues. --Chris (talk) 19:00, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi again! I loved your reply at this AFD and was wondering if you had further witticisms or insights since the article rescue attempt. JJB 06:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I have not ever written any other editor with such anger or even expressed it before and this is personal. If someone else has "

) 21:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

The filth was put on that page by some anonymous vandal, not by me. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

So do you think it was appropriate to give Leah a vandalism warning? Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 23:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

No. I hereby deeply apologize, Leah. I did not notice that the material you'd deleted from the talk page was grossly inappropriate and vilely sexist; I only saw the deletion of language from a talk page, a perennial problem in an article that draws controversy. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:30, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello again, Orangemike … FYI,

) _{03:35, 25 September 2010 (UTC)}

Thank you

I appreciate the apology- it was a real surprise to see that crap on a talk page, in part, because I really don't interact with more than a dozen editors on a regular basis, preferring cleanup work on musician's biographical pages while I plod along on a handful of other articles I edit and add photographs and the like. I can't imagine how I could have pissed anybody off.. and I know it wasn't

) 18:44, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey

01:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Q

Should

) 04:19, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Inception

Adding an unreferenced tag to a plot section isn't unheard of, but it is unusual. What's the problem and how can I help solve it? Viriditas (talk) 06:47, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

See the interminable discussion at Talk:Regulate (song). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Please revert your speedy deletion of this article. Since when was coverage in the

) 21:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Those articles are about Wicked not about the actress. Why not create something more substantive in a sandbox before recreating this semi-unsourced BLP? --Orange Mike | Talk 22:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Why not restore an article that doesn't qualify for speedy deletion and let our normal collaborative editing processes work? I have no interest in writing an article about this subject, but do have an interest in building this encyclopedia, rather than in disrupting such building. And did you really check that all of those 128 sources are about Wicked rather than the actress? If so I have to commend you on your record-breaking speed-reading ability.

Phil Bridger (talk

) 22:47, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm unconvinced, but you're a good, solid editor, so I've restored it at your request, Phil. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

See

this. I hope this was not your intention. I don't have anything else to add except that you may wish to revise your comment further. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 06:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Within the context, I feel that the characterization was not out of line, but a description of his behavior. I will accept your criticism. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:User pages#Userspace Vandalism Sandboxes

You previously participated in an RfC about vandalism spaces. There is an RfC about them at Wikipedia talk:User pages#Userspace Vandalism Sandboxes. Cunard (talk) 19:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Alexandra Powers Photos

A photo of Alexandra Powers is needed on her wikipedia page. Would any of this pictures be acceptable?: http://www.aveleyman.com/ActorCredit.aspx?ActorID=14027 http://www.tvspielfilm.de/stars/star/alexandra-powers,1571496,ApplicationGallery.html?page=5 http://www.flixster.com/actor/alexandra-powers Please let me know if any of these photos are acceptable for her wikipedia page. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 00:46, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

All of those are copyrighted. You would have to find us a non-copyrighted photograph, or one whose creator is willing to license under a suitable Creative Commons license. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Saul Hertz comment

Hi Orangemike,

I'm interested in your concerns regarding the Saul Hertz article. Can you share them with me so I can work on addressing them? Thanks Jabrody24 (talk) 13:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

For the footnotes, see

WP:RS). As to wikifying: many of the key concepts in the article don't have wikilinks; the list of honors is ill-formatted; etc. --Orange Mike | Talk

14:04, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Imagineering_Academy

You have tagged several issues with the Imagineering Academy article. However, you have not elucidated those issues on the talk page, so I can't go ahead and address them. Could you please do so? Thank you!

--Kim Bruning (talk) 14:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments so far. --Kim Bruning (talk) 15:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Dunamispower

• Dunamispower (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

This user is requesting unblock, claiming his/her name is not promotional. That seems entirely likely to me (see

Dunamis, btw). If you're around soon, could you consider an unblock? Magog the Ogre (talk

) 03:39, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment there, but I'm still confused. The user has only written about Koku Adomdza - and the website you linked to is about a Ronda Brown - but this user hasn't mentioned Brown, as far as I can see by looking at both the current edits, the deleted edits and there are no oversighted edits either. Unless there's something I'm missing, I see no evidence that this editor has any connection to the few websites about "Dunamis Power" that I could find! Your further thoughts would be most welcome -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

• Regarding the comment on my talk page, I told the user the same thing here and here. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 16:39, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I've unblocked the user as having an appropriate username, as the username doesn't seem to be a problem. However, I've also left a note for the user on recommended reading for first article creation and recommended

WP:AFC. I hope I didn't act too soon; get back to me if it's an especially big issue. Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk

) 20:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Madison House

Hi, as a routine matter of creating disambiguation pages of format "Lastname House" where there are many places of that name, i went to start Madison House at the redlink and am directed to deletion review, where i am directed to find administrator who set protection. I see you were administrator deleting an apparently COI / commercial version most recently, and I presume are the admin setting protection to prevent recurrence. There was previously Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madison House also, leading to a previous deletion. Statements there were the article or disambiguation could be recreated easily, which I would now like to do.

Items for possible mention in the disambiguation page, potentially as main entries or in "see also" capacity, include the following wikipedia-notable NRHP-listed places:

• Madison House (Watsonville, California)
• Allen-Madison House
  , North Kingstown, Rhode Island
• Eutaw-Madison Apartment House Historic District
  , Baltimore, Maryland
• Madison Barracks, Sackets Harbor, New York
• Madison County Sheriff's House and Jail, Edwardsville, Illinois
• Madison Farm Historic and Archeological District, Elliston, Virginia
• Madison Gas and Electric Company Powerhouse, Madison, Wisconsin
• Madison Ranch, Rapid City, South Dakota
• Madison Seminary and Home, Madison, Ohio
• Pap Madison Cabin, Rapid City, South Dakota

It would also be appropriate to link to homes of U.S. president James Madison and to add other items such as to see also: Madison Hotel (disambiguation). Could you unprotect and notify me, or just create the article? I will watchlist the redlink now so will see if u do. I will then develop the dab. Thanks. --doncram (talk) 17:48, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Reduced to partial protection; but I'm not sure all those redlinked items you list will qualify for articles of their own. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Right you don't need to be sure about those, and in fact they are not yet adequately supported by supporting bluelinks as required by

MOS:DABRL. How and whether they are to be included or not is a matter for further separate discussion if needed, at Talk:Madison House, after i finish with the dab. Thanks! --doncram (talk

) 19:04, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: WikiProject Screencast

Mike, it was a pleasure meeting and working with you this past weekend. Perhaps we will work together again in the future--until then, best wishes! --Another Believer _(Talk) 18:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Request for help ignored

I posted this request for help Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Original_Research_by_editor_Esoglou_on_the_Roman_Catholic.E2.80.93Eastern_Orthodox_theological_differences_article. And it has been ignored. Just like this previous one. [6] Why are these posting being ignored? LoveMonkey (talk) 20:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I find the whole thing so incomprehensible that I am unable to contribute anything to the discussion. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:49, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

How could I simplify the context? So that I might minimize the obfuscation of it? LoveMonkey (talk) 12:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

FYI re: User:HJ Mitchell

I believe that HJM has afforded other users a much wider latitude on their user page, encouraging good-faith changes (see User:HJ Mitchell/Editnotice). –xeno^talk 13:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

V.E.S

For info, article has been recreated.Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 15:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Tagged for speedy deletion per G11. – ukexpat (talk) 16:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Barbara Thompson

Hi-I hope you are doing well. I started an article on

Barbara Thompson (Wisconsin politician). She was Wisconsin Superintendent of Public Instruction for 8 years. Please let myself know what you think-her obituary just appear. Many thanks-RFD (talk

) 16:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Dana Award FYI

Talk:Dana Award. But nothing has changed as a result of the blocks...trying to edit anything they've added or want to add is just as useless as before. I could sure use some advice. Flowanda | Talk 07:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

???? None of the "Keep" advocates in that discussion are blocked sockpuppets! --Orange Mike | Talk 13:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Oops...maybe this discussion will help clarify that there were more sockpuppets found on Wikipedia, or am I still wrong? And double oops...I just saw DGG's comment. Flowanda | Talk 20:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. Flowanda | Talk 07:54, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Since you're around...

This bot here is editing logged out and I see that its block log indicates that an admin has blocked it before for doing the very same thing it's doing now. Just a heads up. —Duncan^{What I Do} / _{What I Say} 00:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Put this to sleep?

This has been lurking since August 31, and it was "relisted" on September 8 with no further comments. Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2010 September 8#Possible derivative uploads by User:83d40m. I think it needs to be put down as it's a dead horse being dragged through the murky swamp now. Soundvisions1 (talk) 01:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

For your information and action if required

User talk:Tonyblairproj. Sincere regards. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 05:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

User preference tweaks

Hi. I made that tutorial! Located at User:Quiddity/User style customization tutorial. Most of the examples have a screenshot, to demonstrate the output. It's still a bit more complicated, at a glance, than I would like; but I'm not sure what could be trimmed or simplified. (It needs a screencast!)

See if anything in there interests you, and let me know if it's useful, or if anything is still too obtuse. Ta. :) -- Quiddity (talk) 01:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

To Mike Orange: Thanks for helping me get started

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction concerning my desire to create a Wikipedia article about Pariyatti, the nonprofit publishing house & bookstore where I have been working & volunteering for the past five years. I still have the feeling that Pariyatti is a borderline case - - I've found a few brief references to it in Wikipedia articles about the Buddhist Publication Society (BPS), S. N. Goenka, and Godwin Samaratne. I will continue to search the Web for other, more lengthy references to establish sufficient Notability to warrant an article about Pariyatti.

Would it be appropriate to link the reference to Pariyatti in Wikipedia's article about BPS to www.pariyatti.org ? In addition to publishing Pariyatti editions of some BPS books, Pariyatti has distribution rights for all BPS books in North America.

Pariyatti also has distribution rights for books published by the Pali Text Society (PTS) throughout North and South America and the Caribbean. Would it be appropriate to add a mention of that fact to the Wikipedia article about PTS? And could that mention be linked to www.pariyatti.org ?

A few bookstores are mentioned by name, with a brief description, in the Wikipedia article "Independent Bookstore". I hope to get Pariyatti included in that article. I'm still researching the best way to make that happen.

Thanks again for helping me get started.

By the way, I was a writer/editor for 25 years, and am confident of my ability to write in a neutral tone.

Starting in 1996 and for the next five years I was responsible for creating and maintaining www.ibm.com/storage. That's ancient history now, but I think I still have the ability to write for the Web. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carljs27 (talk • contribs) 18:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

You really need to read

notability is not contagious: one does not become notable by publishing notable works or notable authors, or selling to notable clients, or working for notable employers. (And no, putting in the links you suggest would not be acceptable; it would be spamlinking, a form of promotion we strictly forbid.) --Orange Mike | Talk

18:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

What is Wrong with Linking to Images open to the public online?

What is objectionable about posting a link to an image file that is pertinent to a wikipedia article? Wikipedia articles contain hundreds of thousands of links to various source materials containing both words and pictures. The reader can see for himself or herself the owner of the picture inasmuch as the link directs the reader to the owner's posting that the owner chooses to make available to the public. The picture is not being moved or copied to wikipedia. The reader is just informed as to where to see it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Jeff Yo (talk • contribs) 20:53, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

We need actual illustrations in the article, not links which may or may not break down the next day. Our manual of style clearly states that illustrations added to articles should be actual images made available in Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Commons, not links to images stored outside of Wikimedia projects. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Three things I need to discuss

1. Britney_Stevens is the sister of Whitney_Stevens. It's listed on Whitney_Stevens that she is listed under the categories Panamanian_Jews and Panamanian_pornographic_film_actors. Since Britney_Stevens is she her sister and a pornstar; should she be listed under those 2 categories as well?

2. Qumunity is an article I want to create. It fits under the category LGBT_culture_in_Vancouver becuase Qmunity is Vancouver's centre for gay, lesbian, transgendered, and bisexual people. I think there should be article for it. Here's the link: http://www.qmunity.ca/

3. Naturally Autistic is another article I want to create because it fits under Autism_related_organizations and It's been around since 1995 and it is run a couple in Gibsons,_British_Columbia and I have a link for it: http://www.naturallyautistic.com/founders/297/

Please let me know about doing these articles. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 04:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Misclick?

Hey Orange Mike. I just discovered at the help desk that a post of mine from yesterday was not only removed by you but rolled back. May I assume this was a misclick you didn't notice?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:57, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Vandal

Hey, I was hoping you could block IP 164.100.153.254, as you can tell from their history its filled with many vandalism events over the last year. Thanks Passionless (talk) 07:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk Page, Hartlepool

I have undone your 'cancellation' or 'reversal' of an 'update' by myself a day ago in the form of the removal of what is now completely irrlevant material originally provided by myself some time ago on this Talk Page. You tell me this should have been done by 'striking out' ('strikeout'). To 'strike out' is what I thought I had done by removing it in the only way of which I am aware, other than complete removal. I make this clear in my editing explanation and ask you to provide an explanation, please, of what you mean by 'strikeout'. Thank you in advance. Peter Judge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.7.94 (talk) 09:16, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

That would be

BWilkins ←track

) 10:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Run it as you wish. I have added my own explanation which I hope you will leave in place. Peter Judge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.42.162 (talk) 16:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Ron Holloway notice

Please read my last comment on the discussion you began about the Ron Holloway article. Looking at the original stub, which Holloway claimed was an innacurate one begun by fans, I found User:T. Anthony. I was trying to find other editors who'd be willing to help with it, and he was the only one. Holloway was mad that I agreed your assessment was correct, and so took it personally, writing an email re: spelling mistakes I made. I was pissed & told him so. I continued editing in good faith though, but suddenly they were all suspect. Glad the first editor reviewed my edits, and found no POV. I apologized for being offended, let it go, and left a section to explain refs on the talk page. Today, there's a newer section placed above it, entitled, "In My Defense"! Something should be done there, but not by me. I want my life back. Thanks.--Leahtwosaints (talk) 23:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Mike, if an editor has actually contacted the subject of an article (who also

BWilkins ←track

) 10:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Bwilkins notified me of this because I declined Lonsax's unblock request. The

WP:OTRS system via the "Contact Wikipedia" link.  Sandstein 

14:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

See my corresponding request at User talk:Leahtwosaints#Your conflict with Ronsax.  Sandstein  14:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that's unreasonable at all - The key issue as it relates to the block is the conflict between Ronsax and Leahtwosaints. If they both back away, I think the situation can be defused. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 15:16, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't have any desire to edit Holloway's article as things stand, if this is given a little time and there's an absolute end to the raving to every editor who might listen from

WP:OWN issues, how can the next Wikipedian who attempts to edit the article be sure their edits will not be considered as personal attacks? I don't think the article could advance given the POV of the subject. It's a veritable hornet's nest. --Leahtwosaints (talk

) 17:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I think that Ronsax has the full right to call the police due to off-wiki harassment - and multiple e-mails, phone calls, etc are harassment. He's not threatening to call a lawyer due to something that happened on-Wiki, or take any form of legal action - he called the cops due to continued contact, pointe finale. We admins call the cops in certain situations of harassment (i.e. violence) too. Honestly, it's clearly Leah who should be blocked in this case ... (

BWilkins ←track

) 21:03, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I also feel User:Ronsax has full right if he receives any harrassment, but I responded to his email. I was not agressive, I did not use foul language. I was annoyed -- 2 years of work and seriously coaching him over 2 years, on the phone, in Wikipedia, and emails uncounted. He wrote me an email, that was very critical email. I responded the same way as I did earlier to Orange Mike when he sent me a note for wiping clean a foul comment (from some vandal) on the Ron Holloway talk page. I didn't consider myself to be harrassing him. I told Ron if he wanted to file charges, it was fine. I have nothing to hide in my email. He never left a note on my talk page to say he felt harrassed! Just because I'm not contacting every editor who notices all of this, doesn't mean I'm guilty of harrassment. I want nothing more to do with him. If he wants to edit his page, it's up to you. But I live 15 minutes away from him! Were his allegations true, I'm sure the police would have arrived days ago. What could I have gained? The email is available to anyone in the proper forum to check out. I've edited here peaceably for over 3 years, and not the slightest problem with others until Ron Holloway re-appeared in my life a couple weeks ago. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 04:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

This is not an admin review of any sort, but I have started a discussion at

BWilkins ←track

) 09:50, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I would appreciate your input at the above mentioned discussion. It appears that because I didn't want to splatter things all over the Wikipedia, that I am the scrutinized one here. I am without words to describe my shock. Is there any way I can forward the email I sent to anyone? This is insane, now. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 18:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Lewis Advertising deletion

Hi Orange Mike,

You deleted my post yesterday. Is there anyway to place that content in my sandbox for editing? I didn't really figure that with a deletion I wouldn't be able to get back to the original user space build of it.

Also, could you please explain to me why any of the other 400 advertising agencies listed here are more notable than the one I submitted? In doing a quick review of their inclusions there doesn't appear to be anything different from the post I made.

Thanks in advance. Loyd

--Lwsellersjr (talk) 13:05, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

As to deletion: done; see

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. As an aside: advertising agencies, based on my experience here, have an industry-specific problem, in that they labor under the delusion that they are notable to the broader world, if they are known within the industry to their peers and competitors (at least in their region or market niche). The idea that the rest of the planet neither knows nor cares about who has the media buying account for Fred's Hamburgers in the Upper Midwestern U.S. region is apparently entirely alien to them. --Orange Mike | Talk

13:17, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I have reviewed the two wikilinks you provided. I would like to reference

WP:CORP

with 'When evaluating the notability of organizations, please consider whether it has had any significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education. Large organizations are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability; however, smaller organizations can be notable, just as individuals can be notable, and arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations.' Demonstrable effects on culture, society and economies is the business that advertising agencies are in. That's pretty much all they do, for the good or bad of it. Building notability for their clients is paramount to their own as their notability is held within the industry in the form of accolades and awards. Which have been cited.

While the general public may not have an interest in advertising agencies, successful agencies certainly are notable within their industry, to the clients that are considering hiring them, to the employees that work there, and to prospective employees. The standard being applied to Lewis Advertising seems to be a bit subjective, as this agency has a similar record of awards and success to others that are being listed.

--Lwsellersjr (talk) 16:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

"successful agencies certainly are notable within their industry, to the clients that are considering hiring them, to the employees that work there, and to prospective employees" - that's utterly irrelevant to Wikipedia; see

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS; out of the 3.5 million articles in Wikipedia, a lot of them are about non-notable topics, but nobody's gotten around to purging them yet - that does not justify the addition of yet another non-notable topic. --Orange Mike | Talk

17:15, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

The presence of 400 advertising agencies on Wikipedia has more to do with the persistence of ad agencies doing what they do well: advertise. Unfortunately, few would survive an articles for deletion debate, and many were written by editors with a conflict of interest, which you clearly share. Having reviewed the draft, I see no evidence that the firm meets either the general notability standard or wp:corp. In general, notability demands at least two or three articles written in independent media of at least regional (as in several states) or national standing, focusing on the subject. This is an objective way of judging inclusion, as opposed to the argument you've made above, which is entirely subjective. This is not a slight to the company, it is just a simple way to determine whether a worldwide encyclopedia should have an article on the subject. Acroterion _(talk) 17:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, so I can see this is an exercise in futility, as is

Star Trek the Next Generation episodes. I am sure if this were a time capsule that would offer more detailed narrative of our endeavors as humans. I see there is a movement to reduce the relevance of the site as a reference tool for the masses, well except in the case of second-rate sci-fi, publicly held Behemoths and the nearest Medieval Times

.
--Lwsellersjr (talk) 20:29, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

The fact is that in the broader scheme of things, ST:TNG episodes are seen by more people and make much more impact on human life than an obscure local advertising firm. I'm not saying that this is a good thing; but it's reality. Acroterion has already explained, quite eloquently, the reasoning employed in this discussion. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:49, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Orangemike. You have new messages at Spamtramp's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

improper deletion of uploaded image

Hello Orangemike. You have deleted one of my uploaded images improperly. This is my first article for wikipedia, and I understand that I have several days to comply with the non-free fair use rationale guidelines, which I did not understand. I am attempting to rectify this now, but I do not wish to have to re-upload my images, as this is very time consuming. Please desist. I am working on it. Regards, E. S. V. Leigh (talk) 20:54, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Note: main discussion at

WP:IOWN. – ukexpat (talk

) 20:57, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

IP block

I saw that you indef. blocked a shared IP, for the first time. I think that it is an error (V.o.A). Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 03:27, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I remembered all except the IP 67.230.144.148 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Here is Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 03:49, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Mike Cooper (voiceover artist)

Hello Orangemike, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of

Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Theleftorium ^(talk)

20:24, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Did you really need to

template a fellow admin about a declined speedy asking them to review the speedy criteria?! – ukexpat (talk

) 20:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes? I'm far too lazy to write a personal message. Theleftorium ^(talk) 21:36, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for stepping in on the article Algernon Capell, 2nd Earl of Essex. I appreciate your help.

talk

) 02:44, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Handle this?

Not sure with this one.

Abu Dhabi Police, which was created by the same user at a later date. It's your call. Soundvisions1 (talk

) 03:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Aakhri Chunauti

LOL. I love your idea of "a bit".--Bbb23 (talk) 20:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I hate to generalize, but a lot of articles on Indian TV shows have this "mammoth plot dump" problem. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of books about risk

It seems that you attempted to nominate

List of books about risk for deletion. You transcluded it onto the log for the 11th but never tagged the article or created the AFD page. Might this have been a script glitch? --Ron Ritzman (talk

) 00:45, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Yup. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Ross Holmes

Hi Mike,

You have flagged the Thomas Ross Holmes article for deletion. I have been working on editing the article with some of the other administrators and hope to bring it up to standard. You mentioned that the references were not about Mr Holmes, but the external links (which I hope prove notability) are about him. I have been advised, and plan to edit today, that these external links should be references to actual copy in the body of the article. All the amendments I intend to make are on the talk page of the article. If there is anything else that you can advise I do, please let me know.

Thanks

Bensomersethow (talk) 11:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

deleading L.A. Galerie - Lothar Albrecht

Dear Mr. "Orangemike", you deleaded my article about L.A. Galerie - Lothar Albrecht, saying that is advertising. Well, there are many dozends article of big US or UK galleries. So this is no promotion? The true notes about a well respected contemporary art gallery in Germany is to be delated, the big money galleries from your country are fine. Double standard I would call that. Sincerly Lothar Albrecht —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.162.251 (talk) 09:04, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd advise you to read

about notability of businesses. These are the standards I go by. --Orange Mike | Talk

12:42, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I did and the decission of "in" or "out" are in not in ballance. But I don't mind. I looks in your self statement that you very much love your power Mr. Orangemike. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.212.195 (talk) 15:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Then you can't read English even as poorly as you write it (not that I pretend to be able to read or write Deutsch well). --Orange Mike | Talk 18:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Right2bet

Right2bet is an organisation comprising consumers from across the European Union who believe in a citizen's right to choose.

Right2bet's mission is to ensure that the principles of economic freedom in the European Union are applied as fairly to betting and gaming as they are to any other sector. It aims to ensure all EU citizens are able to bet with whichever EU-licensed betting operator they wish.

It is a successful campaign which has attracted thousands of signatures and the backing of large, notable, sponsors. Could you please restore the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1234betting (talk • contribs) 15:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Please read

WP:UPANDCOMING. --Orange Mike | Talk

18:10, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

C.I.D. (TV series)

Hi, I went to

WP:RFUP due the article C.I.D. (TV series) was indef protected. I thought that it had PC protection before, but Dabomb made me notice that you added it after the protection. If it was an error, would you remove one of the two? Thanks. Tbhotch^{Talk C.}

04:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Afd

Just to remind you that since you speedy deleted Clicky Media, the AfD needs to be closed as such as well. You've sort-of closed it in spirit but not archived the discussion yet. GiftigerWunsch [BODY DOUBLE] 17:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks for your participation in the RfC on the Eckhart Tolle talk page. A duplicate discussion, regarding the same quote by Eckhart Tolle is now taking place on The Power of Now (book by Tolle) talk page [7] in case you would like to comment further. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

pls Undelete the 2 articles on my new page

This is Jack Armstrong II. Two articles carefully worked on, disappeared overnight when I asked for help in placing footnotes. Pls help. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Armstrong II (talk • contribs) 21:02, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Those were both pieces of

We are not your webhost. --Orange Mike | Talk

00:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

C.I.D. (TV series) – Advice?

Hello Mike. I noticed that you removed some content per

WP:PLOT and the talk page messages. What can be done? Can you offer any advise? — Fly by Night (talk

) 13:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I've set it for review to revisions; that's about as drastic a protection as I feel comfortable imposing at this point. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:59, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but what does that mean? It was already on the pending changes list. — Fly by Night (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Yup, that's what I meant; pending changes. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Do you have any advise as to what I should do. If there are two or three users that keep adding pointless chitter-chatter, that undo our removals, then what do I do?

• How does
  WP:PLOT
  violations?
• Are there any user warnings that can be issued to them?
• Where would I report them if they ignored my pleas are carried on?

Sorry to bother you, but I hope you can help me. — Fly by Night (talk) 17:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

It may be time to take this to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Undeletion of Reverse financial instrument

Please respond to [the allegiations here —Preceding

talk • contribs

) 13:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Unblock on hold at

User talk:TNRD

I think we have reached the limit of what hypothetical conversation can accomplish with this blocked user. They have agreed to a name change and have agreed not to attempt to recreate the article on their namesake themselves. I'm thinking it is time to hand them the

talk

) 02:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay by me. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Freeze request

Because of the sudden surge in the past couple of days in deletes/redirects - with or without discussions but all without merges - I've requested a FREEZE on this (please read it) until after the election. Please check articles you're aware of, as they still display with a 'blue'link'. The deletes are being done by people I don't recognize being involved in any actual article work. (I think you've been involved in election articles in the past, which is why I'm telling you this.) Flatterworld (talk) 15:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your clean-up work. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 18:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

FlippingBook Page

Dear Orangemike

I was adding a new version of the article about FlippingBook and it was deleted in a few seconds. I was going to add information that was put previously and update it step by step by giving the reference from the reputable sources as 'King of Hearts' had requested for our previous article. What do I need to do? We need to place information on Wikipedia because we had a lot of people from schools and universities of US that use our software and they request to put the information about us on Wikipedia. Please let me know about the steps what do we need to do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishanoval (talk • contribs) 01:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Who exactly is "we"? --Orange Mike | Talk 02:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

To Ishanoval: Wikipedia is not intended for

promotional purposes, which precisely what you are framing. Sorry.    Thorncrag 

04:22, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
<talk page stalking />

News

I read about you in the news, [8]. I didnt know if you knew you where in the article. Spongie555 (talk) 04:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

It was news to me. I will say that Olga Diaz is the most reasonable person I've ever had to deal with in these matters. If I lived in Escondido, I'd probably be one of her biggest fans. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:06, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Page redirect

Dear Orangemike,

I have noticed that

Thaksin's wealth Concealment has been redirected to Thaksin Shinawatra

. Even though Thaksin Shinawatra's page mentioned about wealth concealment. However, it does not describe in specific detail of what really happened. Also, I think it would be better off putting it on a seperate page as Thaksin Shinawatra's page is already too long. Therefore, I believe that the article should not be redirected to Thaksin Shinawatra's page. Or any suggestions? thank you nogia123 (talk) 10:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

The article itself (aside from issues like formatting and

"content fork". This kind of information belongs in the main article, where it is examined by the greatest number of editors and subject to the highest level of scrutiny, criticism and improvement. --Orange Mike | Talk

13:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Sigma Partners undeletion requests

Since this was deleted via PROD and you didn't use the {{not done}} tag, I'm going to assume that you were simply stating your opinion and didn't actually decline the request. Therefore, I've restored the article and sent it to AFD. If your intent was to decline the prod then I apologize.

Also, I noticed a few other requests for undeletion that admins have apparently declined even though they are contested prods so I started a discussion on the issue at

WT:REFUND. --Ron Ritzman (talk

) 12:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Rima das 25

Good call. Toddst1 (talk) 13:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Good edit on

Racial realism

I just saw your edit on

reliable sources by Wikipedia content guidelines. Keep up the good work. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk

) 18:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Promotional usernames

Could you perhaps start checking to see if users have filed a CHU request prior to (instead of) blocking them? It would save some time unblocking after the requests are processed. Thanks, –xeno^talk 20:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Intelli-Diet

Intelli-Diet • ( talk | logs | links | watch ) • [revisions] This is an informative article about a notable application and is not advertising. it is no different in tone and content than then 100+ iOS game pages on Wikipedia -98.228.226.40 (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC) 98.228.226.40 (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Not done - it is possible that an impartial article could be written about this obscure iPhone app ("over 500 copies sold!"); but what was deleted was a blatant advertisement, which has no place here. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:03, 26 October 2010 (UTC)"

What was deleted was the same content, tone, and language that is used in the hundreds of other apps in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:IPhone_OS_software - Did you delete it because it didn't pass the 'obscurity' text? Is there a certain threshold? When you say there was blatant advertising, then the pages in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:IPhone_OS_software category is blatant advertising as well. The pages contain the same structure, content, tone, and language. 98.228.226.40 (talk) 02:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

See

our standards of notability. --Orange Mike | Talk

12:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Lizzie Cundy article

Lamest edit wars? :-p Dylanfromthenorth (talk

) 14:32, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Not compared to

the war over Orange (colour), which I still have to fix now and then. --Orange Mike | Talk

15:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

changing username

"Please put this request in at Wikipedia:Changing username as soon as possible to avoid re-blocking."

Does that involve just writing out a request, or do I need to use a special tag or something? Also, I'm guessing that means to post it to the discussion page there - is that correct? Thanks!

talk

) 16:22, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh...scratch that last part.

talk

) 16:25, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Just click the link and follow the instructions there. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:27, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I eventually found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple#ProfessorLoesch_.E2.86.92_DoctorLecter. I'm confused though, because when I search in the list of usernames, I don't see "DoctorLecter," but some bot says the name exists and has made edits. There's a "DoctorLector," but no "DoctorLecter."

talk

) 16:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Username List Search for DoctorLecter

talk

) 16:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

The software sometimes rejects new names too close to existing ones; you may have to pick a different name.

Oh. Hmm. I also checked out DoctorLector's profile though, and it doesn't look like he's made any edits, or at least he has no userpage, no talk page, and nothing is listed under his contributions. I'll see if I can come up with something else I suppose.

talk

) 16:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

He's a new account (January of this year); too soon to contemplate usurpation. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Well I wasn't contemplating usurping him, I was just noting that the bot must not have been referring to "DoctorLector." Anyway, if I created a second account while I was blocked, but didn't make any edits with it, can I simply boost the name off my other accout? To do that would I want

talk

) 16:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

That would fall under

evasion of a block. --Orange Mike | Talk

17:03, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh...oops. Well I did it because this block in particular was due to the fact that my username itself was problematic (rather than my actions, as I understand it), so I just got another one. I didn't make any edits with it, so the idea wasn't to be able to get around a block to make edits - and certainly not to create artificial consensus or anything like that. Will I still be able to merge the accounts or usurp it or whatever?/

talk

) 17:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

File it at WP:USURP and then log in with the second account to certify the request and they can be swapped around. –xeno^talk 17:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Me, I'd advise you to abandon the second account and concentrate on renaming this one with a name that isn't blocked or blockworthy. There's no User:FavaBeans&ANiceChianti, for example. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:18, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

My suggestion assumed he would abandon the second account, but if it's got a username he wants to use, then he'll need to certify ownership so I can flip the account with edits to the new username. –xeno^talk 17:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Usurpations#ProfessorLoesch_.E2.86.92_DoctorFuManchu

talk

) 17:47, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Improper Edit Warning

You have suspended the editing of Almeda University for one year. Please release this hold. A single item dispute on a such a content-rich subject does not warrant such a harsh move. I am certain a warning would have been much more appropriate. Striker8840 (talk) 19:34, 28 October 2010 (UTC)Striker8840Striker8840 (talk) 19:34, 28 October 2010 (UTC) — Striker8840 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Kostleden

Looks like you deleted it just as I tagged it for deletion and somehow that recreated it. E. Fokker (talk) 21:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Unblock request of Tiffanynewcomb

Hello Orangemike. Tiffanynewcomb (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), whom you have blocked, is requesting to be unblocked. The request for unblock is on hold while waiting for a comment from you. Regards,  Sandstein  22:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

User:SedgwickCounty

Do you mind if I unblock this user? S/he requests a username change (the desired username isn't a problem) and says that (1) s/he didn't realise that his/her actions were prohibited, and (2) will be happy to undo the improper edits. Nyttend (talk) 22:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

As the third concurring admin, I have unblocked with all due respect to your correct intial block. I'll add my eyes to those keeping watch on things going forward. Best regards --Stephen 00:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Not a coincidence?

Isn't it interesting that the the defenders of these "misunderstood" academic institutions so often have a poor command of English? --Orlady (talk) 04:26, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm more appalled by their enthusiastic defense of what they do as some kind of blow against the educational establishment, and by their portrayal of us as on some kind of vendetta against experimental forms of learning. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:46, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

KevinDonahoe

I wonder if you know that KevinDonahoe (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) had already been indef'd by the time you posted your message? :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Indefinite is not the same as permanent. He might be unblocked, if he withdraws his legal threat; in which case, he can't say we didn't warn him about the OR/synthesis problem. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:31, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, I see your rationale. The indef might disappear and your warning will remain (until he deletes it). Meanwhile, his rant about "freedom of speech" (complete with self-promoting spam) is a classic. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:36, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I was "especially amused" by his "obsessive-compulsive" and "rather disconcerting overuse" of "quotation marks" on various "important topics"! --Orange Mike | Talk 19:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't think even "Perry Mason" would do "that". :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:59, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Parade High School All-Americans

OM, can you join us for a discussion at admin JamesBWatson's talk page? Thanks for your help. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:06, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Mike, please disregard my previous request for further discussion and assistance. With some help from others, we have figured out the quickest manner to resolve this mess. Thanks again. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 13:43, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

James Lewis

Hi-An excellent job on the James Lewis article. I took the liberty of quickly adding a citation from the Wisconsin Historical Society in case someone was going to mark the article for deletion as a BLP article since intially it had no citations. I hope you did not mind. Here is an article about Alexander Botkin that I started. Many thanks for what you are doing-RFD (talk) 21:10, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK article needs expansion

Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM

05:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Accents

I saw you moved

Hochwachter. Sometimes a word has different meanings with or without the accent. See this recent letter to the Economist (last one): "SIR – An errant accent in your article on Britain’s nuclear deterrent (“Gunning for Trident”, October 2nd) all but reversed the meaning of the French “force de frappe” or “strike force”. Or is there something about Parisian coffee we should know?" Wikipedia may be incorrect in redirecting Frappe to Frappé. Is there a guideline somewhere? Aymatth2 (talk

) 13:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that English-speakers don't understand diacritical marks, much less special characters not used in the English-language alphabet of 26 characters. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, but I still don't know what the right convention should be. I see no need to use "ß", since it is just a shorthand for "ss". But often, with languages other then English, the accent can completely change the meaning. In Spanish,

Isedo, Nigeria. There must be a guideline somewhere. Aymatth2 (talk

) 14:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

WP:DIACRITICS is what you're looking for. --Orange Mike | Talk

14:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

O.k. - thanks - those are pragmatic rules. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Ĉar mi parolas kaj skribas Esperanton, mi devas scii ion ajn pri tiaj aferoj. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Mi havas sufiĉ malfacileco kun La angla. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Frank E. Panzer

There is an existing article about Frank E. Panzer-I started it. Thanks-RFD (talk) 20:32, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Hope what I did there was satisfactory. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:11, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Excellent! Many thanks-RFD (talk) 21:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I added a citation from the Wisconsin Blue Book, 1970, pg. 25-it had the day of his death-dying in office-it was in the original article I started-Thanks-RFD (talk) 21:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

CorenSearchBot

Orangemike, I just got a notice from this bot about a new page I just created, Deena_Brush_Mapple. I think it's because I borrowed a list of Mapple's accomplishments for her lede from the Waterski HOF website. I changed up the wording etc. to avoid a copywrite issue (was I not supposed to do that?), but obviously the actual data is simply factual and can't really be altered to avoid copywrite issues. Is this a problem here, and is there anything I'm supposed to do or should't have done in response to the bot warning? DoctorFuManchu (talk) 00:18, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

You didn't substantially alter the language you borrowed (which was inappropriately promotional for an encyclopedia article anyway; Hall of Fame entries tend to the breathlessly hagiographic). You need to state the same information without borrowing any of the language, adopting a much more flat and matter-of-fact tone. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

How about now? I think that's about as matter-of-fact as I can make it. She is just about the best female skier in history though :). Also, does the tag have to be removed by an admin or is there someone special that's supposed to stop by and "review it shortly" as the tag says (or can I do it myself)? DoctorFuManchu (talk) 15:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Note that simply modified or rephrased text is still an infringement—to remove the copyrighted contents you will need to completely remove them and then write totally new text to replace it. We also don't take kindly to "I'll fill this in later" sections or section headers. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:18, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Well for one thing I don't completely understand the copywrite situation. It does say copywrited at the bottom of the HOF page though (which I suppose probably applies to everything on the website), but as I recall the citation rules (from college and HS), it's ok to paraphrase as long as I'm citing it right? DoctorFuManchu (talk) 16:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

No, copyright can still be infringed by a close paraphrase. Look at articles about other athletes such as Jim Thorpe or Too Tall Jones, and try to recast the article using them as models, as if you'd never seen the language in the Hall of Fame Induction Profile which is the problem. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:31, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Studio-407 wikipedia page deletion

I have sent an email to you ( as the page recommended that I also alert you on your personal talk page).Edgarallennevermore (talk) 01:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Edgarallennevermore (talk) 01:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Page deletion Roger Davenport

This comes as an apology. I don't know WHAT I thought I was doing. Rogerhdavenport (talk) 08:28, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey Sir Mike hope all is well

Could you please when you get time (if you can of course) look at the filioque article and make some suggestions for it's improvement? Thanks LoveMonkey (talk) 14:37, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I wish I could help; but I come from a non-credal background, and all this tangle of appeals to "Fathers of the Church" and Councils and the like leaves me cold and puzzled. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Its OK, I just figured I'd ask. LoveMonkey (talk) 17:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

timesite - deleted page

Hi, in Jul 09 a page titled Timesite was deleted by yourself, When looking for timesheet applications in "Comparison of time tracking software" we note that Timesite is not listed. It should be, how can the Page for Timesite be constructed to allow it to exist and be included in the comparison list? Thanks Simon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theunitaustralia (talk • contribs) 23:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

1. You'll have to provide some evidence of notability. 2. You'll have to avoid the kind of shameless pimping that killed the prior version (TimeSite continues to innovate utilising the latest in web technologies and blather about solutions). 3. You'll have to respect our rules about

advertising. --Orange Mike | Talk

23:11, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Patrick Murray (politician)

I have renominated this article for deletion 6 hours after it was closed as kept. Racepacket (talk) 09:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Phytec

Hi, could you comment on that person's unblock request? Thanks,  Sandstein  21:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Mike - I gave them the standard COIQ... let's see how they answer.  7  09:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Keith W. Schuller

Hi! I started an articles about the State Treasurer of Wisconsin-elect Kurt W. Schuller. Please let myself know what you think-Thanks-RFD (talk) 21:16, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Damn! I didn't realize that moron had won. Not gonna touch this one; NPOV is hard when you've know Dawn Marie for years. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Indef blocked IP addresses

Hi Mike. Can you not indef-block IP addresses for making threats. IP addresses change hands, and users change IP addresses. It's against policy, and only generates more work for other admins who have to go around cleaning up after you. Thanks. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 16:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll take your word for it; but have you got a cite? I don't pretend to have every policy memorized myself. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

That virtually every IP gets reassigned?

WP:BP. Thanks. -- zzuuzz ^(talk)

17:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Mike: vis-a-vis that legal threat, please take a look at [9] and [10]. THF (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

AN discussion

I have raised a matter which involves you on the

WP:AN [11]--Scott Mac

03:33, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for James R. Lewis (legislator)

DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Cirt (talk