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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 00:27, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

St Joseph School, Gagalangin

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Delete: as thoroughly non-notable parochial school. Not even a high school, per se, so no claim to inherent notability. No info online, except some photos on Facebook. Quis separabit? 23:19, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 00:27, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Communist League of Saint Petersburg, Florida

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This article, largely sourced to Facebook and Twitter, fails

WP:RS. Indeed, this WP article seems to be functioning as the group's website. Chetsford (talk) 23:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 00:28, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Ridgely Nicholas

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Does not a appear to be a notable person as required by

WP:GNG. I couldn't find any sources even to verify this basic stub. Being a early 20th century person isn't helping in terms of trying to locate sources; a google book search didn't yield anything useful. Mattg82 (talk) 22:16, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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CommentWouldn't it be possible to verify by doing a cursory check and providing citations???Djflem (talk) 14:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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References

  1. ^ "Nicholas Residence Hall". Rutgers University. Retrieved February 6, 2018.
  2. ^ https://upclosed.com/people/elizabeth-ridgely-nicholas/
  3. ^ http://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/4296138
Those are Wikipedia mirrors and a primary source. Mattg82 (talk) 13:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Don't merge anything. If Biography fails Notability no need of any merge. The above sources are unreliable Wikipedia mirrors and primary source.–Ammarpad (talk) 07:41, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Nicholas Residence Hall". is not a mirror and says, among other things that Nicholas "one of the pioneers responsible for the development of the college", which would add to history of the development of the college, wouldn't it?Djflem (talk) 10:20, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete News search results turn up single source, which is this AfD subject itself... Burroughs'10 (talk) 20:13, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the position is no where close to making on notable, and the coverage is abysmally far from making notability. I understand the desire to avoid presentism on Wikipedia, but we should not do so by creating sub-par articles on non-notable people.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:20, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. AFD started by a block evader and all subsequent delete comments are from socks. NeilN talk to me 17:37, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Conservative Campaign Headquarters

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Delete as no sources which actually prove the existence of the claimed building. Lack of sources within article, which also means it is doubtable and unverified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.231.12.99 (talk) 21:11, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Response:This is a valid point, but the article page is not just of the building, but it is ABOUT it (parlicularly the 'campaigning' section, but also the infobox, which contains references which are poorly sourced and thus constitutes speculation. Further, none of the articles are particularly recent. 151.231.12.99 (talk)
What does the recency of the articles have to do with anything? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:46, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
ResponseThe recency of the articles indicates whether the content of the article is still valid but I see your point sir. Historic articles can be valid, but must class themselves as such and not puport to be current articles as this article does by use of present tense verbs and participles in the article in question. Merge & Redirect to Conservative Party (UK) may be a better option? What do you think, or anyone else who wishes to contribute? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.231.12.99 (talk)
If something needs updating then you add Template:Update, you don't start a process to delete over 200 edits spanning 14 years. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:56, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Response age is irrelevant, it is quality that is important. And this article lacks it. Many of the edits also appear to be Sockpuppets - not all, but a significant number, which leads me to also suspect it of Category:Articles with a promotional tone breach, as suggested if you read lots of parts of the article. 151.231.12.99 (talk)
The edits by the sockpuppets have been reverted, don't you worry about that. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:08, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It isn't a building (and the article makes that clear), it's a function. That function has gone through at least two names, and several physical addresses. All of which are adequately sourced and easily sourcable to anyone who wants to extend this. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:05, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Response*Campaigning section is promotional and in breach of
Wikipedia:NOTFORPROMOTION above, heightened by it being largely (if not entirely) unsourced - only sources are linkedin profiles of staff there which makes it more promotional! Location section is also not from a neutral point of view, as it appears to point to its advantages of the building 151.231.12.99 (talk) 22:15, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Response Not a single one of the sources in the 'Campaigning' section of the article are LinkedIn profiles of staff. The sources that are LinkedIn profiles of staff are the list of key staff in the infobox. 'Campaigning' section includes 16 distinct sources, three of which are national media articles. Saying that the mention in the 'Location' section of it being close to Parliament is a breach of NPOV is stretching credibility. Mauls (talk) 12:53, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 04:47, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gudinva Saloh

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Non-notable politician at best, hoax at worst. All provided online references are either dead links or do not mention the subject. Searching for the subject online reveals nothing except mirrors of this article and of

WP:PROD in August 2017. --Finngall talk 21:13, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Delete. I get the same lack of hits for his name (and still only 32 hits if you search only "Gudinva"!) Other people were Minister for Water and Sanitation and Minister for Agriculture and Immigration (which the article originally said) at the time. Links at Talk:Gudinva Saloh § Hoax. I can't verify that Saloh exists. Mortee (talk) 03:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 04:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

60 Bizarre wars, battles and weapons of history (book)

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Article is about a self-published e-book from CreateSpace and is sourced entirely to its Amazon listing and possibly written by the contributor of this article. A BEFORE search fails to find sufficient additional sources to pass

WP:NBOOK. Chetsford (talk) 20:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per Chetsford. No substantial references to
    notability are presented, and I found none in a Google search. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:20, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus.

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John Allen Hendricks

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Fails GNG,

WP:AUTHOR. While a prolific author, his books are not widely cited or a subject of much beyond book reviews. He himself doesn't receive coverage. h-index of 8 on google scholar. Being a department chair does not seem to establish notability for PROF. Icewhiz (talk) 10:46, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. As you know, I am new to editing and creating wiki articles; this was one of two articles that I created and I have frequently returned to it to learn the editing process. I felt comfortable editing something that I created rather than disturb someone else's work while I learned. But, I have enjoyed making many minor edits to many other wiki articles. I modeled this article on the following: Yahya R. Kamalipour, Christopher H. Sterling, and Michael C. Keith (other communication studies scholars). And, I tried to improve this article over those examples as some of them do not even have sources. While I know your decision to delete this article rather than help correct it has already been made on your part, I will still address your concerns. Regarding notability for academics, this individual meets far more than one of the criteria listed in WP:Academic/WP:NProf. He has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level as noted in the article from the National Communication Association. He held the highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic society, the Broadcast Education Association which has more than 2,000 international educators as members. And, his research has had a significant impact on his scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. There are many citations listed in the article of reviews of his work that speak highly of the work's contributions. Regarding his h-index of 8 on google scholar, that is a significant ranking for his discipline of communication. Wikipedia's own article on h-indices observes that "The h-indices for ("full") professors, based on Google Scholar data ranged from 2.8 (in law), through 3.4 (in political science), 3.7 (in sociology), 6.5 (in geography) and 7.6 (in economics). On average across the disciplines, a professor in the social sciences had an h-index about twice that of a lecturer or a senior lecturer, though the difference was the smallest in geography." Lastly, unless the professor does something scandalous he/she does not receive [media] coverage about themselves -- they are not celebrities. Rather, they are called upon by the media as experts about their areas of study (not about themselves). And, this individual has indeed been cited in numerous American national media outlets ranging from NBC News, FOX, and Congressional Quarterly magazine. His work has been recognized by American national media. Respectfully. Updater500 (talk) 05:54, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think the National Communication Association’s Applied Research Division’s 2011 Distinguished Edited Book Award is NPROF(2). Regarding whether a one year term as president of Broadcast Education Association ([3]) meets NPROF(6) - I will let more experienced academic !votes weigh in.Icewhiz (talk) 06:44, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a follow-up, the National Communication (along with its divisions) is the largest scholarly organization in the communication discipline. It publishes 11 scholarly journals and is highly respected in the discipline of communication and media studies. NPROF2 specifically states: "Some less significant academic honors and awards that confer a high level of academic prestige also can be used to satisfy Criterion 2. Examples may include certain awards, honors and prizes of notable academic societies, of notable foundations and trusts (e.g., the Guggenheim Fellowship, Linguapax Prize), etc. Significant academic awards and honors can also be used to partially satisfy Criterion 1 (see item 4 above in this section)." Regarding the Broadcast Education Association presidency, the BEA president only serves one year. Prior to serving as president of BEA, the president has already held the roles of Vice President of Academic Affairs, Secretary/Treasurer, and member of the Board of Directors. In total, it takes 8-9 years of service on the BEA Board of Directors to become the president. It's not just a "one year" term. Also, regarding your earlier reference to the google scholar h-index, the Wikipedia WP:Academic entry cautions: " For books, the coverage in Google Scholar is partly through Google Book Search, and is very strongly influenced by publisher's permissions and policies. Thus, the absence of references in Google Scholar should not be used as proof of non-notability." Updater500 (talk) 07:32, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Care to show how NPROF(1) is met The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.? Yes, google's h-index isn't perfect - e.g. not finding citations in books. However he does have a verified account and his books are attributed to him on scholar, and it doesn't appear that they are widely cited in journal articles. Not every professor is notable - you need to show significant impact.Icewhiz (talk) 07:57, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • NPROF(1)-- As you probably know, WP:ACADEMIC states that (1) can be met in various ways. Worldcat lists the individual's books in more than 3,300 libraries. Note that WP:ACADEMIC and WP:PROF states: "For scholars in humanities the existing citation indices and Google Scholar often provide inadequate and incomplete information. In these cases one can also look at how widely the person's books are held in various academic libraries (this information is available in Worldcat) when evaluating whether Criterion 1 is satisfied." Further, Wikipedia states: "Reviews of the person's work, published in selective academic publications, can be considered together with ordinary citations here. Differences in typical citation and publication rates and in publication conventions between different academic disciplines should be taken into account. To count towards satisfying Criterion 1, citations need to occur in peer-reviewed scholarly publications such as journals or academic books." The article cites those peer reviewed publications of this individual's work. Again, regarding your references to the h-index, WP:PROF guidelines state: "Citation measures such as the h-index, g-index, etc., are of limited usefulness in evaluating whether Criterion 1 is satisfied. They should be approached with caution because their validity is not, at present, completely accepted, and they may depend substantially on the citation database used. They are also discipline-dependent; some disciplines have higher average citation rates than others." "Academics/professors meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable." He has met more than one to meet the NPROF(1). Updater500 (talk) 02:58, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. The nominator claimed that the subject's work, which is what his notability is based on rather than his inside-leg measurement or his favourite colour, is not "a subject of much beyond book reviews". That is simply a statement that it is not a subject of anything beyond the best possible sources for establishing notability per
    WP:AUTHOR. We don't expect politicians to be the subject of sources that are not about politics, or musicians to be the subject of sources that are not about music, so why introduce this ridiculous bar to authors that sources about their writing should be excluded? 86.17.222.157 (talk) 22:49, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:19, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Julia Berezikova

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Fighter does not meet

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  • Delete as per nominator - GNG is not met.PRehse (talk) 08:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per
    WP:GNG. She was one of the leader of the Anti-Maidan movement. She's mentioned as one of the organizers by the Economist[4]. Here's another article referring to her as one of the Anti-Maidan organizers - it only lists three organizers, and she's one of the ones mentioned [5]. The article states that the leaders are "comprised of a medley of high-profile politicians, Cossacks, soldiers who have fought with pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine, and patriotic personalities including minor celebrities". Seeing as she doesn't fit any of the other categories, it's pretty safe to assume that she is, at worst, a "minor celebrity" in Russia. Also referred to here as one of the celebrities linked to the Anti-Maidan movement. "Berezikova, one of the main Russian celebrities featured in the group, is a decorated sambo, boxing, and judo champion, as well as one of Russia's pioneers in WMMA." [6] She's a celebrity in Russia, one of Russia's pioneers in WMMA, and notable enough to be referenced in multiple articles as one of the leading organizers of the Anti-Maidan movement. Fraenir (talk) 14:48, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment Plenty of Russian news hits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.219.255.14 (talk) 15:07, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Having coverage doesnt not mean notable even the coverage are from reliable source. Being in a movement/as a member in an organisation doesnt translate to being notable.
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  • Keep According to
    WP:NTEMP notability is not temporary. Lonehexagon (talk) 01:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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WP:NMMA - it is three top tier fights - she has none.PRehse (talk) 01:46, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Berezikova is a champion in Judo, Boxing, Wushu, Sambo and Muay Thai.[1] She is an athlete with a significant fan base. She is a W5 World Champion. These wins and the significant coverage about her indicate she's notable enough for an entry. Lonehexagon (talk) 02:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Fraenir. GuzzyG (talk) 07:32, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep She doesn't meet the notability criteria for any of the martial arts. There's no evidence of any significant titles in any of her combat sports. She's not even mentioned as a judoka at judoinside.com so there's no evidence of any widely recognized championship. Having said all that, I do believe there's enough to show she meets
    WP:GNG--and that's all that really matters. Papaursa (talk) 01:50, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Much obliged to Mortee ~ Amory (utc) 11:52, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Penny floater

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Unclear whether term exists

Besides the article having collected quite a bit of nonsense, none of the claims in it are references. But that's not even the main issue: my main problem is I cannot establish whether that term even exists. When searching ngram search there is no evidence for that term that predates this article. Also I couldn't find any web sources predating the usage of this term.

So if that is a proper term, then I will gladly retract my suggestion to delete the term. --denny vrandečić (talk) 20:37, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The best I could quickly find that isn't twitter or a wiki-mirror is this book, but it doesn't seem very serious and only uses the term in passing. It might be a real term, but it's very hard to find. Chris857 (talk) 21:45, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. That book is from 2011, Wikipedia 'introduced' the term in 2006, so it could easily have come from Wikipedia. Is there any indication for the term before Wikipedia? --denny vrandečić (talk) 21:58, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Glad to see at least the term itself exists and wasn't invented. --denny vrandečić (talk) 14:51, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect I kinda agree with a redirect however I think maybe to Football (ball) might be more appropriate that the association page. Govvy (talk) 13:27, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - I submitted the article to AfD originally, but given the work that User:Mortee put into it, I have changed my mind and vote for keep. The article now cites sources, and we found a few mentions older than the Wikipedia article, so I am fine with keeping it. Thanks for the work! --denny vrandečić (talk) 00:43, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. I'm really borderline on this one, so apologies for the long message. It's a very common object known by several names. That suggests notability to me, but because they're cheap, ubiquitous and generic there's not a lot to say about them, and little in-depth coverage accordingly—not enough to very clearly meet the GNG. I added sources to the article, the most substantial being [7]. Here are some passing mentions of "penny floater" just for reassurance about that particular term: [8], [9], [10], [11]. I don't see any need to find examples of use from pre-2006. It would be surprising for an obscure Wikipedia article to have introduced it into such natural usage and casual online text has a tendency to rot away over that timescale. (As an aside, the term "penny swerver", deleted from the article earlier, seems to also exist but be local to Sutton Coldfield [12]). There's enough here that it's better than a Wiktionary entry, and no other article yet mentions it so I wouldn't want to simply delete or redirect. I'd argue merge, but it's much too specific for ball and Football (ball) is quite solidly about balls used for professional sports and their near equivalents. Adding the penny floater detail there would be a little awkward imho. Still, that's definitely option B. For option A I vote keep as a low-value but harmless article about a common phenomenon. Denny you're very welcome Mortee (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Mortee: I have no strong opinion or stake here, but your additions have improved the article significantly. Thank you. Chris857 (talk) 05:12, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep per significant improvements by Mortee. Eddie891 Talk Work 18:30, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep After the initial nomination on January 23rd, numerous sourced edits indicate passable notability as a concept subject. Burroughs'10 (talk) 19:33, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. per

WP:NBOOK (h/t SarekOfVulcan). ~ Amory (utc) 11:59, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Scrappy Little Nobody

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Panned, minor book by otherwise notable person. Delete it and add a sentence to the main article. Anmccaff (talk) 19:56, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep (as article creator), per
    WP:NB. The book "has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself", in this case one of the listed options, "reviews". These reviews, already referenced in the article, as far as I can tell, have not been sponsored in any way by the author or publisher. Additionally, the "other considerations" all fall in favor or neutral for the book. I will grant that there is not much material to be quickly located, but I believe there is more that could be written about this book. Besides, "too short" is not a reason in and of itself to delete. ⁓ Hello71 20:09, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I'd say "too short" is a very strong reason to delete, if the same material all also belongs in the author's own page. Having the same info in two places is not a service to the reader. Anmccaff (talk) 20:15, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Enough coverage to make it 'notable'. Can be expanded using the available sources - whether it can be expanded enough to justify a standalone article rather than a merge to Anna Kendrick remains to be determined. --Michig (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep as Michig says: notability has been established here, and thus deletion (and its concomitant deletion of edit history) would be inappropriate. But that keep result does not preclude the interested editors from discussing a further editorial decision to merge the brief book coverage article back into the main bio article until such time as it has been expanded sufficiently to support a separate article about the book. --Arxiloxos (talk) 22:21, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It passes
    WP:NBOOK and no-one has mentioned any policy-based reasons for deletion. A negative review (and I would call it only somewhat negative rather than a panning) of a book is is not a reason for deletion of the article and neither is being a short article. I would support merging the article (in its current state) if such a merger were proposed. Meters (talk) 22:51, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep No policy-based reasons for deletion and notable enough to keep. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 15:33, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • redirect- I think I'm outnumbered, but no reason this could not be redirected to Kendrick's page.. reviews of a book are not useful content without any other identifiable information on the book. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 20:05, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:15, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Could not find any significant coverage. Fails

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  • Delete as per nom. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:17, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per substantial covering including thr Entertainment Times reporting that "At one point of time, no stage show was complete without a caricature show by Jayaraj Warrier where he mimicked politicians, literary figures and film personalities, in the context of the current social and political happenings." FloridaArmy (talk) 21:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete not able to find
    WP:SIGCOV, only some passing mentions. Seraphim System (talk) 22:42, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep passes
    WP:ENT as prolific contributions to his art, does have some rs coverage such as Times of India Atlantic306 (talk) 19:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:31, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Abe Issa

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Borderline puff-piece on local (Ft. Worth) businessman; arguments for notability are weak; how many thousands of these people have been in some "40 under 40 to watch" article and never panned out as actual notables? Orange Mike | Talk 19:11, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete There x under x lists are all the rage, but they are not the type of award that makes someone notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:53, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:14, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Simon D'Lima

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Principal of local school. Nothing in coverage. Fails

WP:ANYBIO. Störm (talk) 18:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 16:19, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Luke Whitehead

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Non-notable college basketball player. Played on various minor-league teams after college but never suited up for an NBA team. Played a total of 21 minutes in one season for a German league pro team. Also fails general notability guidelines. Last played in 2009, unlikely to become any more notable. Rockypedia (talk) 18:15, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to

Media of South Korea. MBisanz talk 05:32, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Extremely limited, if not non-existent, sources attest to the "fact" (if we can call it that) that Hankyongoh exists as a neologism in South Korea. The page also contains a criticisms section that is not backed up by any sources, Korean or otherwise, making this a borderline attack page against the three newspapers. Kiteinthewind Leave a message! 17:44, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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    Media of South Korea. Thanks. --Garam (talk) 06:03, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. T. Canens (talk) 18:03, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lizq

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article created by the author of the sources. fails

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The result was delete as expired

WP:PROD. ansh666 07:38, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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PLANWEL

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Nothing significant in

WP:NORG. Störm (talk) 17:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 16:23, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Nejd, Sultanate of Oman

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the article was created by the author of one of the sources. Fails

WP:GNG Dom from Paris (talk) 17:33, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. The author (
    on faith. My mistake. This source is available online (behind a paywall) and includes several pages on this site. – Joe (talk) 20:37, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Hi this is a source that was written by the creator of the article himself. GNG requires multiple reliable sources. I could find nothing else concerning this site that attests to its notability. This seems like a case refspam which specifically says "Variations of citation spamming include academics and scientists using their editing privileges primarily to add citations to their own work". Dom from Paris (talk) 21:21, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, the author is an established expert in the field, as well as the main investigator of this site, so there is no reason to discount papers written by him. That particular source was published in Arabian Archaeology and Epigraphy, a peer-reviewed academic journal published by Wiley–Blackwell. There are more sources cited in the article, which are less easy to verify, but which I see no reason to question. – Joe (talk) 21:32, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In the German language source (the only other that is not written by the article creator) there is no mention of this site unless it has another name in German. In a before search I found nothing on this subject. If it is notable should there not be more sources than those written by the person that discovered the site? I may have totally misunderstood the idea of refspam but I cannot believe that it is ok no matter how well you are respected you are to create articles about your own work and reference your own publications as the sole proof of notability. Doesn't this pose a problem of conflict of interest? Dom from Paris (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't fully trust the search facility in PDF documents. Maybe @Azd0815: can help us out with a page reference? – Joe (talk) 16:50, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I hope to have corrected the points mentioned my critic regarding al-Negd, Oman: I entered an image of the coin which was found, the page number of my publication in Arabian Archaeology and Epigraphy, a separate citation by the National Museum, and the date when a team visited the site. I point out that the find is new, only made in 2014 and published in 2016. If this does not suffice the director of excavations, Khamis al-Asmi, was present and other witnesses, who can be contacted if further doubt exists. I am busy correcting other points (Lizq) which my critic has cavelled. I am grateful for your help.Azd0815 (talk) 08:59, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. T. Canens (talk) 18:03, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nial

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Sourced solely by self-published references for nearly 9 years. Cabayi (talk) 17:30, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:36, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Beer Chang Stadium

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Fails the GNG, not having been covered in-depth by any reliable source at all, as far as I could determine. Only news coverage I found was a passing mention of its being used as a temporary practice ground by Chonburi F.C. while their home stadium was being rebuilt in 2009.[15] Other Google results are forum posts, mostly asking for directions as it appears to be really obscure. For context, this post contains some photos.[16] It's more of a field with a concrete stand rather than an actual stadium. Paul_012 (talk) 16:19, 6 February 2018 (UTC) PS PROD contested by MensanDeltiologist. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:25, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete non-notable soccer field. Rockypedia (talk) 19:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The creator has been indefinitely blocked for problematic editing, especially not adding sources to articles, so won't be able to comment here. Boleyn (talk) 20:43, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I contested the prod because the reasons given were because it was unreferenced and no longer used. In my edit summary, I wrote “You can ask for reference and fact it s no longer used doesn’t mean it isn’t notable.” For example, the first two Yankee Stafiums don’t even exist anymore yet they are still notable. The reference situation discussed in earlier comments is another story. It is one thing to ask for references and another to not be able to find any. I didn’t look because even if I found one, I don’t feel comfortable enough with the subject to know what was relevant and what wasn’t. So I left it to others to look into. I am neutral on the subject of whether or not to delete but based on the reasons given in the prod, I felt it deserved a shot to be improved. MensanDeltiologist (talk) 07:10, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. A merge discussion can be held on the article talk page if desired, but from the sources provided it seems to be notable enough. ansh666 07:39, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pepper (cryptography)

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Seems to be two non-notable neologisms shoved together. Only one source for each usage of the term, neither one peer-reviewed. Neither concept seems to be in general use.

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:03, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Girls!

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Self-promotion page about a local band, authored primarily by one of the band's members, and non-encyclopedic in tone and content. I'm requesting that someone else complete the AfD process as I do not have a Wikipedia account. (completed for 104.184.22.222) SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:35, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ansh666 18:34, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

42nd Regiment - Gallipoli 1915

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English book not released yet and doesn't appear like there is coverage on this unreleased book yet. Sources in article do not establish notability of the Turkish (or unreleased English) book - one source is the book itself, and the other source is there to source post-Gallipoli postings of the regiment. In my BEFORE for additional Turkish sources (all be it hampered by my far from perfect Turkish) I was unable to find additional reviews. Icewhiz (talk) 11:07, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge Does not meet
Order of battle for the Gallipoli Campaign or potentially more specific Landing at Cape Helles. Book could also eventually be used as a WP:RS for those articles. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 02:17, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ansh666 07:40, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sydney Viengluang

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fails

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  • Keep two of the cited article are about her and her role in the series. Meets the general notabiloty guideline per substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:13, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Are you referring to pop culture and galore? If so they are both
WP:INTERVIEWs and as such are considered as primary sources for notability purposes. GNG requires in depth coverage in multiple secondary sources. Dom from Paris (talk) 07:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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She does pass that guideline. She has a major role in multiple seasons of a hit television series. She also meets the secons criteria of having a following. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:31, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. Not seeing any real
    WP:N. Most of the sources in the article are blogs or social media. The Fine Magazine item is an interview. Science Fiction is just a passing mention. Galore is another interview. These are not what we're looking for in the way of sourcing. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:01, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep after improvements to sourcing. ansh666 07:41, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Plan 9 (2015 film)

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I put a proposed deletion (

PROD) on this article, giving my reason as "There is no evidence of satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Some of the references aren't even about this film, others are not significant coverage." The creator of the article, Goodbadnugly, removed the proposal, giving as reason that the film derives notability from its connection to the earlier film Plan 9 from Outer Space
of which it is a take-off, and from "the presence of notable internet personalities". As anyone familiar with Wikipedia's notability standards will know, a subject is not considered to be notable because of association with other notable subjects, and must have evidence of notability in its own right.

My reason for this nomination is the same as the reason for my earlier deletion proposal, but here is a more detailed account of why the cited sources don't do it. Out of the eight sources cited, four are about the earlier film, and don't even mention this one. Not only are the other four not significant coverage, but also none of them is an independent reliable source either. Two of them are at www.horrorsociety.com, which not only publishes user-submitted content, but also says "You want to promote your movie, do it here." Another source is at letterboxd.com, which reproduces film data from TMDb (www.themoviedb.org); TMDb consists entirely of user-submitted content, and appears to be if anything an even less reliable source than IMDb, of which it is clearly an imitation. That leaves just one more cited source, which is at plan9movie.com, and I think the URL says it all. The editor who uses the pseudonym "

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  • OK, so I looked at the new sources you have added. I started describing each of them, as follows.
(1) An interview with the director on a web site which calls itself a "fanzine", and that looks like exactly what it is. (2) A brief article which mentions the original film and a "biopic" about the director of this one, but devotes just two short sentences to this film itself. (3) A page about the film which includes a link to book to see the film, and gives some information about it, much of it quoted from the director, on a web site which "allows arts community partners to enter events". (4) A page on a local news site for a town (Roanoke, VA) announcing that the film is being shown in that town. (5) A fairly brief note about the film on a web site called "cinemablend" I have been unable to find anything significant about that web site, apart from its own "about" page, which is full of promotional hype, such as telling me that "its [sic] the only place to catch up on the pop culture [I'm] already excited about", but doesn't give me much actual information. Even if the web site is a significant reliable source (which it may be, but I'm not convinced) its brief page about this film is not substantial coverage.

At this point I decided I couldn't afford the amount of time it would take to write similar individual accounts of the rest of the sources, but none of them looked better than those I have described above. All credit to Tokyogirl79 for putting in the work to find a number of sources to add, but as far as the quality, rather than the quantity, of sources is concerned, if that is the best that an experienced and reliable editor such as Tokyogirl79 can manage to find, them I'm afraid it strengthens, rather than weakens, my impression that the film does not satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The editor who uses the pseudonym "

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  • Weak keep While the original may have had some problems, I think it just about passes notability. The film itself is pretty horrendous, however. Definitely not worth the many minutes I wasted watching it. Stui (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep - As said above, the newly introduced sources, while not the most in depth, are enough to let this one barely pass the GNG. 64.183.45.226 (talk) 16:51, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Not verifiable. No references, and I can only find Wikipedia mirrors when looking for sources.

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Comment There is this. 80.219.255.14 (talk) 15:25, 30 January 2018 (UTC) Huh, "... the content of this book primarily consists of articles available from Wikipedia or other free sources online". 80.219.255.14 (talk) 15:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edwin Mwesigwa

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Non-notable person. Fails

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Irvan Smith (Mr. Vero)

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Promotional biography of a non-notable businessman/programmer. Prose barely makes sense and references are either trivial mentions or advertorials. Declined PROD. – Joe (talk) 14:02, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I have to say also that it's, let's say, surprising that the article has been around for 5 months or so. Mcewan (talk) 22:09, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Mmmm. Fair enough - and as an only intermittently active wikipedian, I bear my share of responsibility for that :) Mcewan (talk) 22:23, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. Per

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Joseph Francois (economics professor)

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An economics profession working in various university. No major achievements or any major influence on economics field ; Fails

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The result was redirect to Shinfield#Institutions. MBisanz talk 05:37, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Crosfields School

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Independent primary phase school, no indication of notability. Tacyarg (talk) 13:40, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - Blank and redirect to Shinfield#Institutions where it is already listed. Closer please remember to place the {{R from school}} template on the redirect page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:33, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Particularly per the history of AfDs for other similar lists being closed as delete. ♠PMC(talk) 13:48, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Synapse Films releases

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WP:NOTCATALOG is policy. This is nothing more than a catalog. How is this consistent? --woodensuperman 16:24, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:38, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Bell (businessman)

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This individual seems more notable for his failures as a businessman than anything else. He is also alleged to have committed massive VAT fraud but has not been convicted as far as I know. I think he fails

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Newbiepedian (talk · contribs · X! · logs) 04:09, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Columbine cup

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Dictionary entry with little chance of expansion. Doesn't seem very notable, could maybe be incorporated into a glossary or list somewhere? In fact, the whole content of this article could probably be merged into the columbine cup paragraph in Masterpiece, which is the only article that links here anyway. Newbiepedian (talk · contribs · X! · logs) 13:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. It just needed expanding which I have done. it now easily passes the GNG with entries in three works that are authorities in their field:
The Grove Encyclopedia of Decorative Arts - Oxford University Press
The Oxford Dictionary of the Renaissance - Oxford University Press
The Penguin Dictionary of Decorative Arts by Honour and Fleming
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  • Keep - well sourced article of encyclopedic value. Far more than a dictionary entry. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:13, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus regarding the band and

WP:NMUSIC depending on how you interpret the criteria, and there's no evidence presented that the others are notable. ansh666 07:49, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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No Name (Montenegrin band)

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fails

WP:GNG. I will be bundling the nomination of the various pages connected to this group that are not independantly notable Domdeparis (talk) 14:13, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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I am also nominating the band member's pages as their only notabilty is linked to this group

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I am nominating the group's singles as their notabilty is not independent of the group and both articles are unsourced with the exception of youtube videos

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@BabbaQ: could you indicate which criteria of NMUSIC they fulfill please and which sources meet GNG. Dom from Paris (talk) 11:31, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As per the criteria #9 of NMUSIC the group would have had to have been placed 1st 2nd or 3rd in the Eurovision song contest to be considered as maybe notable, this criteria was validated in a discussion here in which a certain number of the Wikiproject Eurovision members participated and supported. Dom from Paris (talk) 16:20, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:38, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Zhitpa

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Not finding any coverage in reliable sources to even verify this cheese. Does not meet

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:14, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gordon Calleja

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fails

WP:GNG. of the 15 references 4 are the subject's web site, 1 is the game's web site, 1 is this work profile, 1 is written by him, 4 don't mention him, 2 are passing mentions, 1 is a broken link and 1 the claims to having been nominated for a webby are false as he is not credited [23]. So 15 references and not a single one supports notability. Dom from Paris (talk) 13:29, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete the creator is here to promote themselves/their organization exclusively. Legacypac (talk) 17:29, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - promotional, non-notable Atsme📞📧 13:28, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - does not meet
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The result was no consensus on whether the sources presented are enough to clear the notability bar. ansh666 07:56, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kagen Sound

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WP:GNG. Having a notable client that may or may not have bought one of his works does not help prove notability. The in depth coverage is of a local variety and not sufficient IMHO Domdeparis (talk) 17:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep The coverage is State level and adequate. Here's a CBS article from Denver. There is also Colorado Public Radio profile already in the article. Here is a largish Associated Press profile article. AP is not local coverage, it is globally syndicated. There are weaker items like Hackaday out there as well. Notability met. Some of the primary sources should be removed though. Also note his former name is "Kagen Schaefer". 198.58.161.137 (talk) 09:44, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete: I can't find sufficient justification in Wikipedia's notability guidelines to justify this article. --IndyNotes (talk) 15:02, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment J04n from what I can see the Denver CBS video is still local coverage, and the AP video doesn't seem to have been taken up by any media outlets. I may be wrong but it seems that AP produces and collects stories and then sells them on and this story doesn't seem to have been taken up. Dom from Paris (talk) 14:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus on whether internationally-known but NY-based sources The New York Times, The New Yorker, and The Wall Street Journal - yes, Wall Street is in NYC - count as local coverage or not, and thus whether or not they count towards notability. ansh666 08:02, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Harry & Ida's Meat and Supply Co.

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Relatively new restaurant with two locations that may not exist in a year or two - 80% of NYC restaurants fail in the first five years. Most of the article just summarizes their menu and tries to make it "interesting" which is routine business differentiation content. Refs are routine reviews in local papers, so this fails CORPDEPTH. Not encyclopedic at this point. Jytdog (talk) 17:44, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. There is nothing about this AfD on the article itself. It wasn't removed: it was never added. What is going on there? The Drover's Wife (talk) 18:02, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep lots of substantial coverage of this institution. Whether it will exist in the future is irrelevant. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:26, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not a valid argument. The refs are just reviews in the local paper about a new restaurant. This does not establish notability and the content is basically an advertisement. Jytdog (talk) 16:48, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, the coverage is substantive. Meets the general notabiloty guideline. Substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:01, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
These are full-length reviews published in the Food section, which is a completely separate section from the routine reviews in the "NY/Region" section (here is an example from the local section) - though this would still be considered regional as it covers NJ as well [24] Seraphim System (talk) 01:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep I forgot to vote. Seraphim System (talk) 13:20, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • delete The NYT and the New Yorker may be nationally distributed, but as far as things in New York are concerned, they are local papers. Gourmet would have been a different matter. Mangoe (talk) 19:38, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
How about The Wall Street Journal? Geoff | Who, me? 21:09, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:39, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Downsway Primary School

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Non-notable primary school. Tacyarg (talk) 13:13, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy deleted and SALTed by RHaworth.

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Muslim Students Organisation pakistan

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May be notable, but currently a poorly sourced political screed.

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    WP:TNT is not a policy or a valid deletion rationale. And that you as nom are saying it may be notable. Therea May Smith (talk) 13:15, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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      WP:TNT as a deletion criterion. The fact that it may be notable is not the same as saying it is. Having done some research, I find no sources that support notability. I updated nomination accordingly. Kleuske (talk) 13:23, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tribe F.C. Peshawar

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Fail

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quetta Zorawar

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Fail

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:12, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lahore Lajpaals F.C.

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Fail

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The result was keep.

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Karachi United

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Non-notable. Fails

WP:FOOTYN. Störm (talk) 12:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep - sources now found to show notability. GiantSnowman 13:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I based my previous vote on the weak references mentioned in the article. But there are some references mentioned in the news like geo [25], the nation [26], The news international [27], so I would change my vote to weak keep.  M A A Z   T A L K  22:54, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:12, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Islamabad United (football)

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Fail

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:11, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Manish om singhania

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Article appears to be non-notable. The group he runs doesn't have a website, he doesn't even have anything attributed to him on IMDB, and three of the four citations are profiles (one for a dating website). Under WP:AUTHOR, he doesn't meet any of the criteria, and he doesn't meet criteria under any other criteria, either. Finally, this appears to be a commercial piece (albeit poorly written and phrased), with the writer saying that the photo was sent to him. It's not quite WP:SPEEDY (under A7, although you also could argue it under G11) but I'd argue that it's close. I also cannot find confirmation that he had anything to do with many of the attributed shows. This topic was speedy deleted the last time it appeared under both G11 and A7. Stui (talk) 12:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:39, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2007 Geo Super Football League

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Non-notable league seasons. Fails

WP:FOOTYN's league criteria. Störm (talk) 12:26, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • I am also nominating the following related page:
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:40, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Miyambi Yatsopano

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Likely non-notable textbook. The books does seem to exist, but little other than references in bibliographies can be found As such I can see little evidence that this book is particularly notable. Travelbird (talk) 12:23, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:11, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

William McNeill Carleton

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WP:NOTINHERITED (from his notable father) - little grounds for notability described in article. BEFORE doesn't show much more.Icewhiz (talk) 12:15, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete, not notable for stand alone article. Wikipedia is not a newspaper; trivial. Could be briefly mentioned in article as to his father. Kierzek (talk) 13:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • And/or his father-in-law, who was a member of the Onslow family on cadet branch to the Earls of Onslow. Grutness...wha? 00:58, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, a tragedy for the family but not notable.--Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:18, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- No doubt a useful career, but not all that notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:04, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Nomination withdrawn. GiantSnowman 09:22, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kittipong Loon-jak

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Fail

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:40, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bahman Ansari

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Not known

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known. stay. Do not delete Bahman Ansari (talk) 10:37, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

he is an Iranian Poet and History Researcher. Must stay. Should not be deleted.‍‍‍B.sooshiant (talk) 10:33, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The best Persian Historian. Do not delete. Alireza57alireza (talk) 04:15, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete The problem is that the article is not sourced to works about him, but works by him. The sources do not in any way demonstrate notability. Being a historian is not in and of itself a sign of notability. Some historians are notable, others have not contributed a body of work that meets the notability guidelines for authors or academics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:24, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep wrong venue (talk pages do not fall under AFD), will be automatically deleted if XXXX (TV channel) is deleted. —Kusma (t·c) 14:36, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:XXXX (TV channel)

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Non-referenced closed TV channel ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 09:19, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:14, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

XXXX (TV channel)

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Non-referenced closed TV channel ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 09:16, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:16, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Flint McGlaughlin

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Not a notable person. Other editors have reviewed the content of the article and discovered that the citations either lead to the subject's own web properties or 404. Once those unreliable citations were removed, there is nothing left of note. Shritwod (talk) 09:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete not notable per
    WP:BIO. My Google searches found loads of references to things he's written, events he's spoken at and so on but nothing substantial which is about him and could be used to reference an article. Neiltonks (talk) 09:45, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nom. -- Hoary (talk) 11:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. Not notable; trivial; reads like a promo piece. Kierzek (talk) 13:49, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note for posterity: The reviews of the content that Shritwod mentions above look likely to end up in WP:BLP/N/Archive262. -- Hoary (talk) 14:23, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I was the original editor that removed the 404'd citations. My team and I did a load of research (background check for a client) and noticed nearly all citations were links to web property he owned (whois check confirmed). As Shritwod pointed out, once all the non-existent/unreliable citations were removed, there's no need for an article. 73.104.46.148 (talk) 20:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above; note anon rewriting and expanding of the article, currently going on does the article no good, and seems to indicate the article should be deleted ASAP, maybe evenand definitely salted. --Francis Schonken (talk) 07:28, 7 February 2018 (UTC) (updated 06:49, 9 February 2018 (UTC))[reply]
I've removed the badly-sourced puffery. Neiltonks (talk) 09:04, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The IP continues to edit-war their puffery in ([28]): they seem to have no gusto to back down, so I repeat my suggestion that the page should not only be deleted ASAP but also salted to prevent further repetitive re-introduction of bloat regarding the subject of the article (who doesn't pass
WP:GNG anyhow). --Francis Schonken (talk) 06:49, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Prabhloch Singh

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Article was deleted before per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prabhloch Singh and recreated very soon but issues are still same.

Still fails

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The article was reviewed and accepted. Having few editors shouldn't be a reason for suspicion. It has very credible sources. The subject is notable, so is his org. I would request you to reconsider. I'm not a wiki wizard like you, I really appreciate your perspective and time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisMr (talkcontribs) 08:55, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep

You are clearly ignoring the in depth coverage of the individual and the org by reliable, credible sources. — Preceding

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Above user is the creator of the article and has canvassed.[29]
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Can you at least provide sources that made you think the article should be kept? I see none. Organization and him, both are non-notable.
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Have a look at these sources:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/life-style/giving-the-dead-their-dignity/496529.html http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/life-style/gyan-zone/world-of-activism/377908.html http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/People-were-afraid-to-protest-against-Manu/articleshow/7273856.cms (this was the front page of TOI main edition) https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/school-bus-attack-in-gurugram-if-they-get-away-this-will-happen-again-says-petitioner/articleshow/62666776.cms

There are more sources that can be quoted if required. ThisMr (talk) 17:46, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Does not satisfy
    WP:BASIC --Hagennos ❯❯❯ Talk 20:38, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Comment The user:ThisMr had implied in his rebuttal to the AFC that the article has passed AfC. But when looking at the AfC for this article and the users talk page I find that the AfC was deleted as abandoned and then the user went ahead and created a new article in the Mainspace. That article was also deleted via an AfD. --Hagennos ❯❯❯ Talk 20:51, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Article lacks references needed to establish notability. References are passing mentions. reddogsix (talk) 18:15, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Is this reference a passing mention? http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/news/life-style/giving-the-dead-their-dignity/496529.html ThisMr (talk) 03:45, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - It is certainly not in-depth. reddogsix (talk) 05:39, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to
    Middle Finger Protests as it would be useful to keep the information there. The person is a member of the organisation , but it is the organisation which has received the coverage. Actually even Middle Finger Protests should be merged to Murder of Jessica Lal. Instead of having so many fragmented pages, it would be much better to have it all together.--DreamLinker (talk) 04:19, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment - The article still lacks in-depth, non trivial sources. reddogsix (talk) 18:58, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as non-notable individual with no major/in-depth coverage in independent sources. The author also appears to have COI with subject.
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The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 05:50, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

R.S. Praveen Kumar

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The draft at Draft:Repalle Shiva Praveen Kumar has today been declined as not adequately showing the subject's notability. Without seeing the previous articles and drafts it isn't clear how much the notability has changed since WP:Articles for deletion/Dr Repally Shiva Praveen Kumar and WP:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Repalle Shiva Praveen Kumar, and since the deletion of R. S. Praveen Kumar, Dr Repalle Shiva Praveen Kumar, and Dr. R S Praveen Kumar. Continual creation with slightly different titles does give rise to suspicion of gaming the system. David Biddulph (talk) 05:59, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 05:49, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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A non-notable organization that clearly fails

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Above user is the creator of the article and has been canvassing to this AFD.[30]
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It is not difficult at all and there are no sources to establish any notability.
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There are enough sources to establish notability only if you take into account the citations/references.ThisMr (talk) 20:18, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Could you shed some light on the close connection? It will be really enlightening for the community.ThisMr (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 05:40, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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local career politician and although he was county sheriff for many years, I don't see anything to pass

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The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 05:48, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maya Vishwakarma

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Seems to be in the news a little for her activism and educational work. But I think this fails WP:GNG. She is not an elected politician. Most of the articles say she moved from California to India. She works to provide menstrual hygiene education. "Vishwakarma’s campaign has come into the spotlight at a time when there is a buzz around the Bollywood movie Padman, set to hit theatres on February 9." Classicwiki (talk) (ping me please) 05:46, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Agree with nominator nothing here to substantiate this article. Deathlibrarian (talk) 07:19, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Retain Page Page may have some issues in beginning, but I feel it must be retained and this meets WP criteria of notability, and this satisfied WP guidelines on G11 as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AchaksurvisayaUdvejin (talkcontribs) 08:09, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Monmouth County, New Jersey. J04n(talk page) 18:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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County sheriff, fails

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The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 05:47, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Promotional article on non-notable software. The references are PR or notices-, or placements on a list Some of them, such as the one on "500 startups" are straightforward advertisements. DGG ( talk ) 21:02, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: One assessment of sources in the article. It's a mixed bag: there's some borderline-significant, but pretty redundant, coverage from presumably reliable sources with named authors, though their editorial standards are not readily checked. A Latin American editor may be able to speak to the reliability of the Spanish-language sources, but on balance, the topic probably weakly meets GNG. —swpbT go beyond 20:31, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Source assessment table:
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Independent?
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TechCrunch 1 Yes Yes ~ Nothing about the company, and a pretty minimal overview of the software ~ Partial
TheNextWeb Yes Presumed ? Article is an outside contribution whose views are disclaimed by the publication; reliability of the author is not established Yes ? Unknown
La Nacion (archived) Yes Presumed Yes Presumed ~ Nothing about the company, and a pretty minimal overview of the software ~ Partial
Bloomberg Yes Yes No Just an index entry for the company No
Ethos3 Yes Presumed ? Publication is another company in the presentation field, so conflict of interest is a possibility Yes For the software, not the company ? Unknown
Hongkiat Yes Presumed Yes Presumed Yes For the software, not the company Yes
El Financiero Yes Presumed Yes Presumed ~ Brief coverage of software; very little about company ~ Partial
Frenchweb Yes Presumed Yes Presumed ~ ~ Partial
500.co No Ad copy written by the company itself No No
Crunchbase ? Source of data and editing process are not clear ? Yes Good detail on finances and personnel ? Unknown
Success in Business podcast Yes Presumed Yes Presumed Yes The business is the central topic of a 15-minute interview Yes
TechCrunch 2 Yes Yes ~ Pretty minimal ~ Partial
Slidebean 1 No Company's own website No No
TechCrunch 3 Yes Yes Yes More in-depth coverage of both software and company Yes
Slidebean 2 No Company's own website No No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

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  • Comment: Thank you all for the thorough review of sources and reliability. As of now, there are 3 sources that are have been concluded as reliable enough to meet GNG requirements. I would argue that the TheNextWeb source meet those same standards. The reporter, Anna Heim, (https://thenextweb.com/author/annaheim/) while an independent writer now, has 100+ news articles on TNW and published several times a week from 2011 to 2015. —jpczcayaT 17:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Crunchbase is basically a database sort of thing - not independant. An interview is not useful as it is not independent; hongkat is a blog; "techcruch 3" only has what the company says about themselves. No good sources. Galobtter (pingó mió) 18:41, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete also Swpb, for future reference, Tech Crunch is not considered an independent or reliable source for purposes of notability. It is routinely ignored in every deletion discussion I've been in for at least the past year. I haven't really seen any argumentation in favour of counting it since late 2016. Same with Crunchbase. The interview in a podcast is a non-independent primary source as well. Some of the other sources you have checked off as meeting the GNG also appear to be non-reliable or user generated. Anyway, from review of that table, I see nothing that meets the GNG. BEFORE doesn't yield anything else. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • To editor TonyBallioni: Wikipedia:Interviews disagrees with that as a blanket rule. I don't know for a fact that this interviewer is independent, but there's no evidence they're not, and that's where the burden lies – unless you can show that this interviewer has a specific conflict relating to this subject, they are assumed independent. As for TC, could you point to the discussion about its use toward GNG? I don't put much weight in statements of the form "we just don't trust this source" with no justification given, and I don't think a closer would either. —swpbT go beyond 19:41, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- promotional article on a nn software / company. Does not meet
    WP:NSOFT. Sources listed above are insufficient. "Success in Business podcast" is an interview / possibly paid placement, while TechCrunch is so indiscriminate as to not qualify for notability. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:01, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Despite the seemingly sensisble

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Mount Olivet Cemetery, Newark

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Only claim to notability is a couple of burials, but

notability is not inherited from dead people. Mangoe (talk) 15:40, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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If you will please read: there's no claim that it is a historic site. It' merely implied that having a couple of governors buried there makes it historic, which by our standards isn't true. GO find some discussion from outside sources of it as an historic cemetery, and then we can talk. Mangoe (talk) 19:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's notable as the resting place pf these historic figures. Just as ghost towns and other landmarks are notable. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make sense. Ghost towns are notable because people find ghost towns as a class notable, and they write books on them which tend to talk some about every last ghost town in the country if they can get info. Burials are incidental mentions in bios, but if you can't say something about the cemetery as a whole, if you can't get people to write articles or chapters in books or whatever, then they aren't notable. There are cemeteries which do get such treatment, but this isn't one of them. Mangoe (talk) 00:08, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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*Many artificial geographical features may be mentioned in plenty of reliable sources, but they may not necessarily be notable. The inclusion of a man-made geographical feature on maps or in directories is insufficient to establish topic notability.

  • Artificial geographical features that are officially assigned the status of cultural heritage or national heritage, or of any other protected status on a national level and which verifiableinformation beyond simple statistics are available are presumed to be notable." Neither of these criterion are met.
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Protected areas of historical signifcance are notable per guidelines. This isn't a geographical feature it's a historic cemetery. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep nothing wrong with an article on a 19th century cemetery that normal editing can't fix. Having several notable burials makes it notable. Serioisly, how much in depth coverage can you expect on a cemetery? Legacypac (talk) 04:19, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That works out to an argument that hardly any cemeteries are notable. There are cases where cemeteries get coverage in their own right (e.g. Rock Creek Cemetery in DC) but simply saying that someone is buried in one is an incidental mention, and it's a safe bet that most such mentions in WP come from Find-a-Grave anyway, which is essentially another wiki. Mangoe (talk) 10:31, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete.

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Notability concerns. This podcast [32] (1-2 minutes in) has him describing his article and gives a better summary than I could.

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The result was keep. J04n(talk page) 18:31, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sam and Nia

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I do not believe this YouTube couple/family are notable enough to be on Wikipedia. I see the sources in the article, however, most of them are about single events that happened with this family that got them notoriety (two scandals, an alleged miscarriage, a few viral videos). Not to mention it seems awfully promotional, with statements such as "They have over 100 videos that exceed one million views, eight videos with over 10 million views, and three that have over 20 million views" and also later on in the intro "The video was an instant success and went viral in march of 2014", which seems like it was written by someone trying to paint them in a good light instead of in a neutral way. Also, plenty of the sources are from either Facebook, YouTube, or a photography website of the article creator. In short, I don't see how they are any more notable than other family vloggers who document their lives on YouTube. This family just happened to have a few controversies, but nothing that really makes them stand out. Just wanted to add one more thing, I went and checked and the creator of this article is Matthew T Rader, who is related to Samuel Rader (see this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/infinite-magic/3604255935), and Matthew made no indication of being connected to Samuel while creating this article. Andise1 (talk) 22:17, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


I haven't seen anything on Wikipedia that says people related to the subject can't create/contribute to their articles. It is not a promotional piece at all. It actually highlights a lot of negative press they received as well, the information is very unbiased. The information about video views was inspired by Wikipedia articles about other YouTubers, if that is considered superfluous then remove it. I think your reasons for deletion are not fair at all. Their video of them lip syncing in the car went incredibly viral and started the whole trend of making videos of lip syncing while driving. Prior to them, such video were not common at all. This family has been discussed and talked about in just about every major media outlet on numerous occasions. They were also very connected to the Ashley Madison hack scandal.

If you look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_YouTubers, you will many many YouTubers that far less well known than they are with much less subscribers. I looked through just the A's and found YouTubers with less than a million subscribers and virtually no media attention whatsoever. So according to that list, they are absolutely notable enough to be on wikipedia. Actually, they should be added to that list. Matthew T Rader 23:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

A couple more notable things about them have been published in well known magazines online. The Verge in June 2017 said Sam caused one of the five biggest YouTube scandals of all time.[1]. That's pretty notable. And they were also considered the 3rd most influential YouTubers of 2015 by The Daily Dot in December 2015[2]. Those are two very notable things about them, that many, if not the vast majority, of other YouTubers with pages on Wikipedia cannot claim. Matthew T Rader 23:49, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

  • Weak delete. To respond to the article creator's point about creating or contributing to articles to which they are connected, have a look at
    WP:OTHERSTUFF-related arguments to keep are neither here nor there, particularly when YouTubers and other such famous-for-being-famous people are involved. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:52, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep – This is obviously notable, so it could be referenced.

I just reread the COI rules, I unintentionally missed those suggestions. I don't think a deletion is necessary, but instead have someone edit it to remove any appearance of a bias. This article was not written at their request. How can I include in the article my relationship with the subject? Please look at all of the non-social media sources, many of the sources are from very reputable News and Magazine sources. I was a wikipedia contributor before they became well known. Matthew T Rader 04:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

There's no need to include your connection in the article (since it's not "your" article, in that anyone and every can edit it, that would be counterproductive). As per
this part of the link I referred you to earlier, there are a couple of simple steps you can take, and I'm sure that - in the event that the article is kept, or if it can indeed be re-written to get over the assorted difficulties it has at present - someone or several someones will edit it accordingly anyway. The fact that you created it doesn't mean it can't be kept, either, so while conflict of interest is important and there are those sort of "arm's length" things to do as per earlier, I wouldn't be concerned about the article being deleted purely for that reason. Having had another look at the non-social-media sources - my initial look at them was earlyish in the morning, so it never hurts to have a more thorough look later in the day with a working brain - my earlier opinion is confirmed. The couple read as having been the online equivalent of a nine-day wonder, albeit a nine-day wonder caught up in the more notable Ashley Madison hack. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:56, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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How can someone, or a family, that has been watch by people all over the world over 750 million[3] times not be notable? Matthew T Rader 13:26, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Raw numbers don't confer notability in and of themselves, for a start.
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The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 05:44, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Struggling to find independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of

WP:BIO. Run-of-the-mill businessman. Promotional article. Edwardx (talk) 22:23, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete None of the sources imply notability, a quick search online did not bring up any other sources. Kees08 (Talk) 07:26, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- bio spam on a non notable individual; significant RS coverage not found. 100% promotional. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:05, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. per

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Struggling to find independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of

WP:BIO. Run-of-the-mill businesswoman. Promotional article. References provided are either mentions-in-passing or rely on company produced material and/or quotations. Edwardx (talk) 22:29, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Searching for "executive coach" has led to several AfD nominations. No doubt there are other job descriptions one could search for that should be equally rich seams. Edwardx (talk) 17:30, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I worked on this last night and would appreciate Agricola44's input, too. I took out a lot of the puff and the poor citations and I added reviews from several reliable sources about her books. In addition, she was an important figure behind the success of Dr. Phil's show. Passes CREATIVE for reviews of her works and probably GNG for her high-profile roles in several orgs. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:16, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete.

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I can't find any significant coverage of this show in reliable resources. The ones presented are from their own website, plus some random picture of a Burger King promotion that looks like it could have easily been scrapbooked together. I removed stuff related to 4Kids as it implied Alfred Kahn was the writer of the show. No French wikipedia equivalent. Article was created by a user who is currently blocked. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 23:59, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - Can't find any independent coverage to show it even exists, let alone meets notability criteria. Onel5969 TT me 21:32, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. Killiondude (talk) 05:43, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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44/876

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Does not meet

musical notability
as a project that hasn't yet released anything.

See

no credible claim of musical significance. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Delete As per nom. Article makes no justification for notability. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 09:34, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 05:43, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jody Raffoul

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Unnotable journeyman singer-songwriter. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:41, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Nothing here passes
    reliable source coverage about the tour, not just asserted, to count as a notable tour that makes its artist wikipediable, and nothing else stated here even attempts to pass any other criterion at all — and this isn't reliably sourced. The only properly footnoted reference is a press release on a concert listings platform, not a reliable or notability-assisting media outlet, and the only other source here is a BBC News article, linkfarmed as an external link rather than being cited as a footnote, which isn't about Jody Raffoul, but merely mentions him in passing within an article about the general economic travails of Detroit. So that's not a source that actually demonstrates Raffoul's notability either. I also think either I might be having a stroke or somebody needs to go hunting, because I could literally swear that we've seen an article come to AFD before about a musician from Detroit whose main notability claim was getting to open for Bon Jovi. Bearcat (talk) 18:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - most of the work has already been done by @Bearcat: above and I am in complete agreement. I will add that beyond Bon Jovi, I can find no evidence that this musician really opened for all of the big names listed in the article's first paragraph; if any of it is true he probably opened for singular local gigs when those artists passed through his town. He might be notable in his local area, but otherwise he has not gotten too far beyond the Bon Jovi contest. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:58, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The attention for the award (not an award that meets notability standards, btw) is not significant per WP:MUSIC. Nothing else can be verified with anything other than press releases, self downloads and minor coverage. Even authorship and maintenance of this page seems to be COI promotional from various SPA and IP addresses. Other awards are local and not wikipedia notable. The film "Grabtime" appears to be minor and exists only on self-download sites. The other film, "Annabel and Bear" does not mention his contribution in the IMDB page credits. And while social media followers are discounted by WP because of unreliability in their authenticity, it is revealing his numbers are comparatively small. Overall, the subject appears to be a successful local music scene journeyman, but nothing beyond run-of-the-mill attention and fails WP:MUSIC per a lack of significant independent 3rd party coverage. ShelbyMarion (talk) 13:40, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. Killiondude (talk) 05:42, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Jody Perpick

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Being a tour manager is sufficient only for Bryan Adamsopedia. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:34, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete background funtionaries for musicians are almost never notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:50, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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