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Subject does not appear to be independently notable ElKevbo (talk) 23:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TechStorm TV

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Google finds 36 hits for "TechStorm TV" - this may omit Chinese language sources of course. All the cited sources are very obviously press releases. All substantive edits are by one of three

WP:SPAs
, one of whom clearly identifies as an employee. In short, this is spam. Guy (help! - typo?) 23:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of anarchist children's literature

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"Anarchist children's literature", as a topic, has not been the subject of

?) No such sourcing in the article, searches of major academic databases, or Google Books. czar 22:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete After reviewing the edit history, the attribution of certain books as anarchy related appears to be completely subjective and arbitrary. Graywalls (talk) 23:11, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete as just someone's (dubious) opinion. Mangoe (talk) 02:32, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per our anarchic policies
    WP:NOTLAW
    . The nomination offers no evidence to support its assertions. Here's some counter-examples:
  1. Tales for Little Rebels: A Collection of Radical Children's Literature
  2. New World Orders in Contemporary Children's Literature: Utopian Transformations
  3. Little Girls without Their Curls: Female Aggression in Victorian Children's Literature
  4. Children's Literature, Domestication, and Social Foundation: Narratives of Civilization and Wilderness
  5. Learning from the Left: Children's Literature, the Cold War, and Radical Politics in the United States
  6. Order and the literary rendering of chaos : children's literature as knowledge, order, and social foundation
  7. Translation, Children’s Literature, and Lu Xun’s Intellectual Struggles
  8. Relentless Progress: The Reconfiguration of Children's Literature, Fairy Tales, and Storytelling
  9. Fairy Tales and the Art of Subversion
  10. ‘No-one telling us what to do’: anarchist schools in Britain, 1890–1916
Andrew🐉(talk) 11:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Which of these establish "anarchist children's literature" as a recognized genre, and/or cite specific books as examples? I'm not seeing it in what you listed/linked to at all. postdlf (talk) 15:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The nay-sayers seem to suppose that
    schools of thought which include leftism, radicalism, subversion, and more. Whatever label is chosen, there will naturally be synonyms and equivalent meanings. There are clearly books of this sort such as A Rule is to Break. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC)comment[reply
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The result was no consensus. Views are split about evenly between keeping and merging; neither of which requires any deletion. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Complete Guide to Prehistoric Life

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Unsourced; non-notable encyclopedia associated with a series of nature documentaries, there is nothing to suggest that this book in particular is independently notable enough to warrant its own article. Ichthyovenator (talk) 22:50, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Hemiauchenia: I guess I should have checked more thoroughly before deeming this book "non-notable". I agree that this article could be reworked and expanded with reliable sources, then (I notice you've already begun doing so). Don't know if I can "retract" a deletion request but I now also support keeping the article. Ichthyovenator (talk) 08:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@FunkMonk: @Dunkleosteus77: Per Wikipedia:Notability (books)

A book is notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria: 1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.

The book easily satisfies this, as indicated by reviews noted above, and therefore is notable enough to have a stand alone article. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:39, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I mean if you're just gonna go off of that, I can say that about a lot of random books, like
WP:IGNOREALLRULES), so at the end of the day, you have to go with the most practical. In this case, a small discussion on the Walking with Dinosaurs article as is done right now is best, as I don't see how you could have a full-fledged article unless you add a lot of padding and page-filler   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  00:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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@Dunkleosteus77: I think that looks like a notable book, so I have gone ahead and created an article for it. Hemiauchenia (talk) 01:12, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge into the Walking With... article. The book was written as a companion to that series (I have both watched the series and have/read the book), and I don't see how it can be adequately treated separately from it.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This clearly meets
    WP:NBOOK. Accompanies notable programs too. Old-time classic by now, and I wouldn't mind having a copy either. Ambrosiawater (talk) 05:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep for now, if Walking with...#Books is reformatted to be more than just a list, than maybe a merge would be appropriate. Devonian Wombat (talk) 00:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Walking with Dinosaurs. Sandstein 18:25, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dinosaur World (video game)

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Unsourced article on non-notable freeware associated with a documentary series. Ichthyovenator (talk) 22:46, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment any media coverage of this game is likely to be relatively inaccessible by searching, considering it came out in 2001. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:32, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point. I don't believe there to have been much media coverage considering (from what I can see) it was a quite obscure piece of freeware and essentially an alpha version of a game that was ultimately never finished. Ichthyovenator (talk) 23:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - into
    Walking With Dinosaurs, I think there's still a chance someone will look it up, better end up at the series with a brief mention of the game than a red link. FunkMonk (talk) 15:47, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment this article has a page on the Russian Wikipedia which is pretty decent. I'm not sure if the sources used there are the most adequate but perhaps a translation could save the article. Super Ψ Dro 23:19, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That is interesting. Most of the sources used there are primary sources (referencing the game itself or the BBC website) and the ones that aren't (i.e. Qube Software, GameContractor and IMDB) seem a bit questionable to use, but I agree that the article itself looks significantly better than the English language version. Ichthyovenator (talk) 23:40, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we could ask a place like the video games WikiProject about this page to see if the game is actually notable enough or not and if they can find better sources or translate the article from Russian. They seem to be quite organized and hard-working (apparently around 70% of the video game articles in Wikipedia have a start-class rating). Super Ψ Dro 00:24, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Merge into
    Walking With Dinosaurs per FunkMonk. Foxnpichu (talk) 11:12, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of creatures by Impossible Pictures

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I believe this falls under Wikipedia:Fancruft; this is a list of prehistoric animals that appear in certain documentary series and other random programmes (only connected by having been produced by the same company). It would be equivalent to a "List of animals that appear in National Geographic documentaries". It is completely unsourced and animals are identified down to the species-level, which they aren't in the programmes themselves, meaning that there is plenty of original research here as well. Ichthyovenator (talk) 22:40, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paul F Glenn

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Does not appear to meet

WP:ANYBIO
. The sourcing provided doesn't meet the bar and I wasn't able to find anything else that did.

  1. PacBizTimes is a local publication for businesses (ie a double whammy of low audience impact)
  2. CrunchBase is not only a business listing, it's user-generated, so unreliable
  3. Sharon Herold obituaries are user-submitted, so are not reliable/independent
  4. Obviously the Glenn foundation's own website is not an independent source
  5. Inside Philanthropy appears to simply be a directory-style listing, although it's paywalled so I'm willing to AGF that there could be more in-depth content below what's visible without logging in
  6. Rejuvenation Research is technically an academic journal, but it has, er, issues with self-citation and inflating its own impact factor, so reliability is questionable. It's also an interview, which is a primary source.
  7. EurekAlert
    is a "news release distribution service", which means that any content on it is not independent.
  8. InsideEko purports to be a newspaper but is hosted on WordPress. Come on.

Obviously if this is the best that's available we can't retain this article. ♠PMC(talk) 22:09, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:27, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Keith Ashwin

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The result of the last deletion dicussion was delete, and I don't believe this person is anymore notable than the last discussion. Most of the sources are YouTube videos, Google Patents, product pages, and the website of the subject. The other references sound like advertisements or make very brief mentions of the subject. Dylsss (talk) 21:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. MBisanz talk 02:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Hurlingham Reggae Band

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This is really outside of my area of expertise, but it's been tagged for notability since 2009, and makes no claim to notability, so it's time for this to get a hearing. From the article, this looks like a spinoff band that never really recorded anything and went around playing in bars and cafes in Argentina. I can't find any good English-language sources. I'm finding a few things in Spanish, but after translating, they mostly appear to be unreliable or primary source interviews. If significant coverage can be found, I will withdraw this with no qualms, as this is outside of my area of expertise or even really interest. Hog Farm Bacon 20:12, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - Since they were active in the 1980s, they are unlikely to have online coverage. I did a Google Books search and found them in several Spanish-language books, but always as a brief entry in lists of 1980s Argentinian music acts or in conjunction with their parent band Sumo (band). I agree with the nominator that this reggae band was a side project that didn't accomplish too much. They can be described in that fashion at the Sumo article. DOOMSDAYER520 | TALK | CONTRIBS 02:01, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on

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SLIR

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No evidence of notability. I had PROD'd this page before, but as pointed out on my talk page, for whatever reason the article history was never updated. Submitting a more formal deletion request at this time. --Another Believer (Talk) 19:22, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:35, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Oriyomi

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Non-notable. Fails

WP:SIGCOV. Puffy. scope_creepTalk 19:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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I think the Nigerian Guardian, which has been described as Nigeria's most respected newspaper is a pretty solid newspaper as newspapers go. scope_creepTalk 08:27, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is not that the source is Nigerian. The issue is that the content is paid/press release. I mentioned that it is a Nigerian source to differentiate it from The Guardian as I perceived that the above two editors mistook the citation to be from The GuardianAd Meliora TalkContribs 14:46, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The references, as indicated by all who took time to meticulously check, have been improved with more reliable sources, so that it passes
    WP:SIGCOV
    .

That newssources are from "Nigeria" shouldn't in any way cause you to question the credibility, reputation, trustworthiness or veracity. There's such a thing as Print syndication or Web syndication which in no way, I believe, usurps Wikipedia rules. Again, Ad Meliora how do you prove that such print and web syndications are paid, as CNN, reuters, and other credible newssources, just as these ones, offer such syndication services for non-commercial use? These sources below are credible, and you can take time to check them out.scope_creep did address this. Many thanks.

Kindly let's examine some of the references judiciously:

  • [4] "Real estate expert tasks government on ease of doing business" This wasn't a trivial mention as per the above subject, but a significant coverage. Also, The Guardian (Nigeria) is a reliable source with editorial integrity. The publication is independent of the subject.
  • [5] This wasn't a trivial mention, but a significant coverage. Also, This Day is a reliable source with editorial integrity. Independent of the subject.
  • [6] Reputable media source, independent of the subject, from Business Day (Nigeria)
  • [7] Reputable media source, independent of the subject, from The Sun (Nigeria)
  • [8] Reputable media source, independent of the subject, another one from the The Guardian (Nigeria)
  • [9] This wasn't a trivial mention, but a significant coverage. Also,
    WP:GNG

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How about you going through the references, like the one I pointed out earlier: [14] instead of making pseudo claims? Kindly go through the content in these reliable and independent sources you've openly discredited. Regards.DEOL [[User:Adeoluakintunde|Adeoluakintunde]] ([[User talk:Adeoluakintunde|talk]]) (talk) 18:33, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That is a press-release you keep trying to foist on to us. Why do you keep doing that when it is clearly non-rs. scope_creepTalk 18:47, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Foist on us?" Who are the "us"? Is this a gangup or some sort of sockpuppetry?? I've been citing Wikipedia's policies and guidelines that truly establishes or disproves notability, verifiable links, the subject's significant coverage in independent and reliable sources, but your reasons why this page MUST be deleted are unfounded; no policies, no documents whatsoever! Regards.DEOL [[User:Adeoluakintunde|Adeoluakintunde]] ([[User talk:Adeoluakintunde|talk]]) (talk) 02:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is incorrect that reasoning is unfounded, since the arguments presented by
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Same editor that rushed to accuse me of COI when I clearly stated that I have none is talking about
WP:GNG are clearly non-supportive of your reasonings thus far. RegardsDEOL [[User:Adeoluakintunde|Adeoluakintunde]] ([[User talk:Adeoluakintunde|talk]]) (talk) 10:17, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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You didn't actually state that you don't have a COI, all you said was "I only gave an example".
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Ok, that's fine. But how did COI suddenly turn to "sockpuppeting warning?" Do you have anything against my person or my objective responses?DEOL [[User:Adeoluakintunde|Adeoluakintunde]] ([[User talk:Adeoluakintunde|talk]]) (talk) 11:08, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks for understanding. To answer your questions: I don't have anything against you personally, and don't recall making any "sockpuppet warning" about you.
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I see. RegardsDEOL [[User:Adeoluakintunde|Adeoluakintunde]] ([[User talk:Adeoluakintunde|talk]]) (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 07:49, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tereza Østbø Kuldova

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Clearly doesn't meet

WP:ACADEMIC. Bjerrebæk (talk) 18:01, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. As an academic, she has less than 350 citations on google scholar which is a bit thin for WP:PROF, probably a bit too soon for a wiki page. Unless there is some significant coverage for non academic related achievements, I would remove the page. Lainx (talk) 21:22, 17 October 2020 (UTC) 16:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Roman emperor. People agree that we should not have these articles, but disagree about whether to delete or to merge them (and how). Redirection is a compromise that allows editors to figure out through the editorial process whether and how they want to merge any of this content. Sandstein 18:23, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Emperor (Principate)

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I am also nominating the following related pages because they follow the same pattern as the aforementioned one, only for different historical periods:

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This article intends to describe the nature of the office of Roman emperor during the period outlined in the title. I don't see why this needs a specific page rather than be treated in the Roman emperor page itself. I would have proposed a merge, but the entire article amounts simply to a listing of Roman emperors with information already covered in other articles. The article has no sources, has demonstrably wrong information, and adds nothing which other articles already do, so deletion seems appropriate here, per

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On investigating further, I find that we do have the dynasty articles, so that my reference is for a short merger to Principate and Dominate with links to the dynasty articles. Peterkingiron (talk) 10:54, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. To those (@
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  • Delete, this article is pointless. It is just a detailed list of Roman emperors down to Severus Alexander. We already have such list elsewhere. T8612 (talk) 21:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge into other articles as appropriate. Just glancing over these, I don't see much that's particularly useful, and there's some very questionable writing (Agrippa was certainly never emperor; and why are all the instances of emperors' names in bold?). There certainly doesn't seem to be anything that wouldn't make more sense in other articles, whether about individual dynasties, or about emperors or time periods generally. Whatever is useful here, and not already in the other articles, can be safely moved there, IMO, and these articles redirected to the best targets—not sure deleting them outright would be a good idea, since the page history would be lost, but I can't see using these titles as search targets. P Aculeius (talk) 21:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or Merge given previous arguments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.217.186 (talk) 02:40, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Nomination Withdrawn.. Nomination withdrawn. Missed the Order of Canada member of, equivalent to the MBE.

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James C. Temerty

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No effective references.Puff piece. Fails

WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 17:15, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. czar 19:43, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Westin Savannah Harbor Golf Resort & Spa

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There is nothing notable about this hotel and it fails the following requirement per

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The result was delete. czar 19:42, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Westin Westminster

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There is nothing notable about this hotel and it fails the following requirement per

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The result was soft delete. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. MBisanz talk 02:40, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Four Seasons Resort Carmelo, Uruguay

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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:47, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hyatt Regency Aruba Resort & Casino

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The result was keep. ST47 (talk) 04:47, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hyatt Regency Portland

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  • Disclaimer: Stub creator. This one's easy. Strong and speedy keep. Just go to Google News and search "Hyatt Regency Portland", you'll see sufficient secondary coverage. I've shared some on the article's talk page. You seem to have nominated a whole series of properties indiscriminately. Next time please complete enough research before submitting deletion nominations. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:06, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is a generic Hyatt which barely opened, notwithstanding its financing. To the above, I don't feel like this meets
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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Hyatt Muscat Hotel

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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DoubleTree by Hilton Chicago Magnificent Mile

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The result was keep. Consensus is that the article should be kept, though there is also consensus for it to be renamed.

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DoubleTree by Hilton Harrogate Majestic Hotel & Spa

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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Shanghai–Pudong

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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Yousef Salama

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Fails

WP:NPROF. Assistant professor per bio at An-Najah National University; citations on Scholar are weak in a field where this is (as I recall) relevant; and the claim that he is an "ambassador" to Japan seems highly exaggerated, if not outright false, given [15]. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:12, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy withdrawal.

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Vinny Lingham

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notability not established, sources are not reputable, the reuters article is not actually covering Vinny Lingham, it is about Civic (the company mentioned in this article) Ysangkok (talk) 15:55, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I found some about him.
Brainstorm "From geek teen to search hotshot" and "An entrepreneur in exile"
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Daily Maverick "Vinny Lingham: SA’s start-up king and Gyft-ed man"
Sunday Times "SA man hits the jackpot in Silicon Valley" and "Geek becomes entrepreneur-breeding dragon"
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The result was delete. czar 16:40, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Laura-Jayne Hunter

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No demonstration of notability. Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources, either those in the article or elsewhere online - lack of

WP:NMUSICIAN. Edwardx (talk) 15:23, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to

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Chowgule Sports Centre

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Lacks independent notability and fails

WP:GNG
. I have done an extensive search and found:

  • [16] - primary source
  • [17] - this appears to be the website for the sports centre
  • [18] - painfully brief article in local paper
  • [19] - mentioned once
  • [20] - U10 futsal league which probably represents the best coverage of this sports centre
  • [21] - mentioned once

The content is already covered well enough in Parvatibai Chowgule College so I see no reason for a separate article. Spiderone 15:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 16:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Loch Lomond Youth Soccer Festival

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A football festival for teenagers and children that does not appear to meet

WP:SPA
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Here is a summary of the sources available:

  • [22] - promotional flyer
  • [23] - review dedicated to the tournament but not likely to be considered an independent source
  • [24] - press release
  • [25] - reasonably short article but does show coverage from a leading Scottish tabloid
  • [26] - article in local paper about the festival
  • [27] - not sure if this is reliable or significant
  • [28] - promo piece Spiderone 14:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Kabyle people#Politics. czar 16:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kabyle nationalism

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Merge with (Kabyle people), the article is an Original research and there are two refs only (very poor Verifiability), in google search: major of sources talk about "Kabyle people" only not about "nationalism". Ibrahim.ID ✪ 13:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of Brisbane Broncos players. There is a consensus to redirect, as an alternative to deletion. This target garnered the most support but if a better target is developed (e.g. the suggestion to redirect to 2002 Brisbane Broncos season) this discussions should not get in the way of implementing that. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Lacaze

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Per

WP:ROUTINE
coverage, mostly in reference to the one game he and other reserve players appeared in.

Please see related AfDs,

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  • Don't have rugby encyclos but AFL encyclopaedias tend to have a couple sentences on each player. SportingFlyer T·C 20:17, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Agree with the arguments put by duffbeerforme. Cabrils (talk) 00:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect - alternatives to deletion must be considered before deletion. List of Brisbane Broncos players meets that criteria. Deus et lex (talk) 10:14, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Something in-between is best here. Lacaze does not appear meet the
    WP:GNG on his own and isn't eligible for his own article, but there's also enough in the article to preserve somewhere. The issue with the "List of Brisbane Broncos players" is it's just a list. I would recommend a redirect there and adding a blurb about the match he appeared in (which was a famous upset) to 2002 Brisbane Broncos season. SportingFlyer T·C 20:16, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Is there a rule of thumb about how much accompanying details any single item in a list can have? --Adamant1 (talk) 23:38, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 02:39, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Goldface

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I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing

WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar." It was deprodded by User:Andrew Davidson with no meaningful rationale (despite the fact that I explicitly asked for one in the PROD). Again, this has a short sentence on publication history (and a longer but mostly unreferenced section on appearances in other media), plus the usual fancrufty plot summary, no shred of claims of significance, impact, receptions, etc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:28, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • CBR puts out between twenty to fifty lists per day. It seems they were previously a better regulated site, but it has turned into a nonsense clickbait garabage dump. Nothing of what they put out should be included in an article. TTN (talk) 18:26, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Could you point me to the community discussion that concluded that about CBR? - AppleBsTime (talk) 20:12, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If there is none, I'd support starting one at
WP:ITSHARMLESS. Anyway, the two sources cited are pretty bad - they are both just pure plot summaries. Inclusion in one of zillion CBR lists is really nothing special, since their lists are mostly meaningless repeats of plot summary organized as a type of clickbait, note they have usually no analysis or explanaiton of rankings. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:40, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Your use of terms like "zillions" and "clickbait" indicate to me that you are not being subjective in evaluating the source that you've formed a personal opinion about, but which the Wikipedia community has not even attempted to form a consensus, other than allowing hundreds of links as source material over the years. - AppleBsTime (talk) 15:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto for the one below. Darkknight2149 04:53, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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    WP:PRIMARY or used to source that fictional material. The CBR source also seems to speak about the fictional universe, so regardless of its status as reliable I do not think it helps show notability. I searched Google News, Scholar, and Books, JSTOR, ProQuest databases, and Academic OneFile for sources that show his notability in the real world but did not find anything. In order to change my delete endorsement, additional sources need to be posted that show why Goldface is notable in real life. Z1720 (talk) 16:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete as it fails
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  • Delete per Z1720. Article does not have out-of-universe context to meet
    WP:GNG. Sources cannot be found that would remedy this. Shooterwalker (talk) 05:37, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Geschichte (talk) 10:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio T. de Nicolás

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Appears to fail

WP:NPROF, except for this, which may be a Festschrift but looks self-published. I also found this review, but that's about it. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 03:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. GS cites just OK for elderly poet and philosopher. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:32, 24 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]
  • Keep. I just added 12 published reviews of 4 of his books to the article. I think that's enough for
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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor Talk 16:33, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Craven

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The subject is a darts player who has competed in a couple of professional tournaments, but doesn't appear to have won any significant awards (his best result in any competition, according to the database, was a quarter final place.) There isn't an SNG for darts, but going off

WP:SPORTSBASIC I don't believe the subject is notable - the existing article is supported only by an external link to a darts database; I searched for more coverage online, but found only listings in other databases, and passing mentions in local media sources - nothing that would meet the sourcing criteria required. GirthSummit (blether) 12:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Not all darts players are the biggest names. These people did play in event which have some merit. They might not be well known, but they have won events and have featured in events of note.12:25, 17 October 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JRRobinson (talkcontribs)
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The result was speedy delete by Jimfbleak per G11, G12. (non-admin closure) Shellwood (talk) 13:46, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tinius Olsen Testing Machine Company

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Declined multiple times at

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The result was delete -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:19, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Windows 2.x

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Unnecessary disambiguation.

Windows 2.1x in Windows 2.0 article. Hddty (talk) 12:01, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. – bradv🍁 23:12, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Democratic Secular Front

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The article is about a coalition which was formed on 8 October 2020 and does not have enough coverage to meet the general notability guidelines let alone those on organisations. There is also a lot of original research leading to inaccuracies. For instance, it was formed with the merger of two alliances whereas it refers to one of them as it's former name (UDSA).[1] Even if we were to consider either or both of the former alliances to be contributing towards it's notablity, the coverage still is not sufficient to meet guidelines. Tayi Arajakate Talk 13:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ "Asaduddin Owaisi, Upendra Kushwaha Form Front Of 6 Parties For Bihar Polls". NDTV. Press Trust of India. 8 October 2020.
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KeepJust seen its coverage.No its notable and seems to have more coverage until now. Also it may expand in future following elections result.Though i have not seen
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checkY Keep : as per
Heba Aisha. -- Manasbose (talk | contribs) 04:34, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Bearian, could I ask you for examples of this wide coverage? Tayi Arajakate Talk 01:14, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment, just to clarify on my nomination. Most of the coverage that the alliance has received is regarding its formation, usually bundled with other alliances that exist in the concerned election. There is otherwise a lack of any significant in-depth coverage, the kind of, one would require for a corporation, organisation or political party or coalition would require to be considered notability per
    WP:ORG. Many of the parties in the alliances themselves are notable but that doesn't make a transient alliance like this notable too, and not to mention notability is not inherited. I have otherwise also cleaned up the article a bit in case it survives this AfD. Tayi Arajakate Talk 15:39, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Keep it is a significant alliance and do not fulfill criteria for delition.Many useless articles are on wikipedia which are not nominated even though they are not notable.But significant pressure is given on its religion meanwhile many other editors are not in favour of delition its only a concern of a particular editor.
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Also the user who nominated this for delition is deliting the candidate list and other related stuff from 2020 Bihar Assembly election page meanwhile keeping small parties like
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I have already adequately explained why I've done so on the concerned page and not to mention this isn't the page to bring it up. Also I'm not a "brother".
Regarding the AfD itself, the alleged existence of "other useless articles" or your presumptions of a local consensus does not override community guidelines. Tayi Arajakate Talk 04:21, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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I've already pointed out what I see is clearly significant coverage. I'm not replying to sea lions. Bearian (talk) 17:43, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
sea-lioning for asking you one question about what you find to be "examples of wide coverage"? The article as it stood at the time you made your comment had one citation with the The Hindu as the publisher, a citation which did not even mention the alliance
. The only coverage that I can find in The Hindu which does mention the alliance is the following one:
Tewary, Amarnath (8 October 2020). "Bihar Assembly election | Six parties form a new front with RSLP's Kushwaha as CM candidate". The Hindu. .
It's an article about developments in the pre-election campaign which includes the formation of the alliance and is bundled with other developments. Otherwise, I have not found any coverage of it in from the newspaper in particular and from what I understand most others have the same degree of coverage, a report about its formation. Tayi Arajakate Talk 06:52, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 10:52, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beekrumsing Ramlallah State Secondary School

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This school doesn't seem notable. Since all the sources in the article are primary except for one (which isn't about the school or in-depth), I couldn't find any sources in a BEFORE that would pass either

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Although I'd seriously question a few of the standards, your 10 point notability system seems at least a little more resonable then whatever the "keep every school article, because school" crowd has going. Have you thought about doing an RfC about it? Because while I'm fine with the current standards of the GNG and NORG for schools, more specific guidelines would be a good thing and maybe it would help tamp down the angry mob some if they were a little more strict, or at least actually catered to schools. Adamant1 (talk) 18:26, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:51, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Institute of Islamic and Secular Studies

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This article has been unreferenced since 2014, I was unable to find multiple in-depth reliable sources about the school in a

WP:NORG. Instead of people who vote keep just citing a no longer valid standard or an irrelevant essay. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:29, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 10:44, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sel Guevara

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Not seeing anything that satisfies

WP:BIO. There are no references, although she is apparently a pro bikini competitor. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:35, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 10:45, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Ayo Mary Laurent

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No indication of being notable. Some minor coverage. Fails

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  • Delete A lot of the coverage is borderline tabloid that does not indicate any fact checking. Her being a "princess" seems more marketing gimmick than reality. We seem to lack an article on her great-grandparent who seems to have been the last to hold an actual title. Keep in mind that at least after 1900 most "royal" titles in Nigeria have not actually been connected with actual political power. This has the potential to morph into another expression of deposed monarchy cruft.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete — Doesn’t satisfy our general notability criteria. Celestina007 (talk) 18:02, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - this princess meets notability and has yahoo and international coverage & sources on forbes and almost every reference source is ethentic, l am sure this article meets the guidelines. John Pack Lambert you are saying right, the monarchy in Nigeria is tribal and never been interwoven in political power, a prince or princess of Nigeria is known to be princes or princesses of their tribes as we know Nigeria has the largest tribe and most spoken languages in the world, about 520. This princess is a princess of her tribe and from the particular hometown information on wiki, the monarchy exist and up till date and tribal monarchy is forever in Nigeria and can not be deposed. Look into this and judge rightly. I believe they meet. They are the richest african princess too, I see this is notable.Arslan Ahsan (talk) 17:44, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Forbes is deprecated on Wikipedia and can't be used to establish notability. scope_creepTalk 09:47, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:N & has more worthy and trusted sources and references that are on the news. The fact that these links is not deprecated proves more readily that it is honourable to keep.Arslan Ahsan (talk) 16:31, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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It is deprecated dude.
WP:FORBESCON. Forbes isn't a good reference. It is low-quality, and because they have churned out so much junk over the last 10 years, the WMF has had enough, changed the software to flag it up and the community has deprecated it. Check before you spout a bunch of such nonsense. More so, this is about the 9th time this past week or two that I've stated the exact same thing. Does nobody check. scope_creepTalk 19:11, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per
    consensus has emerged that princesses of non-sovereign states are not automatically notable, whether from Europe, Latin America, or Asia. This is the first I've seen from Africa, although I don't see how this one would be an exception to the new rules. Ping me if you find anything other than the single Yahoo news. Bearian (talk) 20:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. czar 21:12, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Overs Piano

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Apparently, non-notable piano manufacturer. The company only has minor coverage, mostly rutinary. I did not find enough independent sources to confirm the topic's notability. Urbanoc (talk) 21:46, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Overs is highly regarded in the world of piano technicians and rebuilders. As a manufacturer he appears to be less successful. His marketing probably hasn't been on par, having minor resources. He isn't a car manufacturer. You should look at his work as a Mona Lisa. Very special, you shouldn't look at it quantity wise. 2001:1c02:30d:3600:d9c:bf3e:707d:e53d (talk) 23:13, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. While Overs may end up being remembered as the Leonardo da Vinci (or Stradivarius) of pianos at some point in the future, at the moment this manufacturer fails
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The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 04:51, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Shofiul Alam

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Not notable personality. Sources are just trivial mentions.

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  • Delete, more close to advertising than anything else. Geschichte (talk) 17:02, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 10:40, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PriyoShop.com

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Mostly based on press releases (6th year celebration), and blogs etc.

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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor Talk 16:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Blue Book (India)

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Non notable. No reliable source.

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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BHIVE

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Full of fundraising press releases indicating unreliability of sources/paid/promotional sources.

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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Excitel

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Based on press releases and company profiles. Not reliable sources.

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a. The subject has also been mentioned by an Indian English-language business newspaper owned by The Indian Express Group

https://www.financialexpress.com/industry/mukesh-ambanis-jio-commands-52-of-indias-internet-user-base-market-adds-this-many-users-at-march-end/2087617/

b. The subject has also been mentioned by another Indian English-language business newspaper owned by The Times Group: httpshttps://economictimes.indiatimes.com/company/excitel-broadband-private-limited-/U63090DL2015PTC277612
c. The subject has been mentioned in TRAI (Telecom Regulatory Authority of India, Govt. India)'s website as the 10th largest broadband service provider with a substantial subscriber-base:
1. https://trai.gov.in/sites/default/files/PIR_08012020_0.pdf
2. https://trai.gov.in/sites/default/files/PIR_17092020_0.pdf Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 11:41, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. czar 21:11, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Two Lick Run, West Virginia

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GNIS calls this one a post office, and states that it's exact location is unknown. Perhaps unsurprisingly, this doesn't appear on topographic maps, or in county histories, on in the 1981 USGS listing of West Virginia places (all of the Two Lick Runs there are streams in other counties). Possibly a minor stream of this name in the county, but the claim of an unincorporated community seems to be decidedly false, and the claim of a post office is barely verifiable. All newspapers.com hits are for minor bodies of water. Even if the stream does turn out to be notable,

WP:OR as GNIS doesn't even call it a populated place. Hog Farm Bacon 05:23, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • delete Both Google and the topos agree that the stream running through Tesla and down to Little Birch is named "Twolick Run"; the areal between them has a more or less continuous scattering of houses along the road, at any era one wishes to look at the maps or aerials. There isn't any specific cluster I could identify with a town of Two Lick Run, but it hardly matters: we have no testimony that says this is a settlement, and it's possible that this post office is a predecessor name for one of the two towns. Fails verification, it does. Mangoe (talk) 02:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect. Geschichte (talk) 04:17, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sully & Son Company

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A clothing brand that does not pass either

WP:GNG. The sources cited are PR pieces. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 05:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment. This is one of a series of recently created articles creating what appears to be a
    WP:WALLEDGARDEN around George Sully. I am not clear on notability on any of them, but wanted to flag. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:51, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Redirect to
    WP:NCORP as stated by the nominator. The sources in the article are all PR about one fashion brand, which is not notable in itself. Additional reliable sources were not found on Google, JSTOR, ProQuest or OneDrive. Since this a company created by Sully, it is appropriate to redirect to his article. Z1720 (talk) 19:06, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Redirect as above. Company fails NCORP/GNG so a redirect makes the most sense.
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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 04:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mattos, California

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Durham calls it a locality. Another source identifies it as a railroad facility at a ranch owned by John Garcia Mattos. Nothing indicates it was a community and otherwise not notable. Glendoremus (talk) 19:38, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • delete Things are made a lot clearer for this one by the old aerials, which show in the 1940s a spot in between two orchards with no buildings nearby; then in the 1950s a siding appears which curves off to a factory or warehouse next to the then-new FAA facility (which is still there). The orchards are overrun by dense suburban development, and eventually the factory and its siding do as well, although there is a trace of the latter remaining in the form of fence lines and pavement. The topos show the name on one very early map, and then it disappears until the siding shows up, and then disappears again. All this points towards a railorad point name, and there's certainly no sign of anything resembling a separate town. Mangoe (talk) 20:52, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No post office. Alameda County Place Names says it was a railroad station,
    WP:GEOLAND #1. Cxbrx (talk) 20:25, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete Nonnotable siding. Just a locale. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 01:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thekao Mastan

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Non notable film, nothing found in a

WP:NFILM. Tagged for notability since July 2019. Even the article in Bengali has no good references. Donaldd23 (talk) 19:39, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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    WP:GNG; the article seems to suggest that there is critical reception for this film but I can't find any evidence Spiderone 11:48, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Geschichte (talk) 04:13, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Swapan K. Gayen

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Fails

WP:NACADEMIC. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:41, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 10:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Tenpenny

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Not notable. Being a city council member does not establish notability. Neither does claiming the COVID is a hoax, and neither does dying from it. Grave-dancing in the irony that someone (asterisk, in the lowest possible elected office) did both of the latter things does not justify writing a stub about him. Finding any additional information to add seems very unlikely due to the circumstances. But if he were alive, there would be even less to say. Delete. ―cobaltcigs 06:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Borderline case depending on whether Nashville Metro Council meets
    WP:NPOL. I agree with the assessment by cobaltcigs in their above case. Bkissin (talk) 14:27, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Just to be clear, they're not my criteria: they're Wikipedia's criteria, established by a consensus of users, and the only thing I am is the person who's most commonly called on to explain them when they're in question. Bearcat (talk) 14:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Nashville isn't classified as a
    ten year test for enduring nationalized significance. Bearcat (talk) 14:58, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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    WP:NPOL is that a city councilmember should receive international or national coverage that is much more than the average municipal official. --Enos733 (talk) 05:32, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 13:27, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Association of Licentiates of Medical Council of Hong Kong (ALMCHK)

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Not meet

Notability requirement SCP-2000 09:52, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Respectable well-established medical association. 28 references. Some to their own website, but very unlikely that it is not notable. Rathfelder (talk) 07:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • No judgment on independent notability, but editorially, this might be covered better under an article called "Medical licensing in Hong Kong." If this results in anything but "delete" or "keep," does anyone want to write such an article, then start a merger discussion with the goal of turning this article title into a redirect? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 13:34, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note on the
    WP:CANVASSING and, technically, it may be canvassing. I thought hard about leaving them out, but it is only fair to alert both editors that I am raising this issue. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 13:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep (withdrawn). Geschichte (talk) 04:10, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vamsee Juluri

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Appears to fail

WP:NAUTHOR. His book Saraswati's Intelligence may be notable ([30], [31]) but I don't think he is. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 02:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nomination. No readily available evidence of
    WP:NACADEMIC or other notability criteria. I don't think their book would be notable either. Jmill1806 (talk) 00:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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I believe this article shouldn't be deleted. He was an important participant in the California textbook controversy. He is also the author of notable books. I'd in fact like to see this article get expanded. Czar-peter-123 (talk) 23:13, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. I added nine published reviews of five of his books to the article. I think that's enough for
    WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:36, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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    David Eppstein, Thanks. Not sure how I missed those. I agree that's enough for NAUTHOR. Jmill1806, would you mind giving your !vote fresh consideration in light of these reviews? I see no reason to leave this open any longer, but am unable to withdraw unless you strike or amend your vote. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 20:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
AleatoryPonderings, yes, I withdraw my previous Delete vote. Thanks for finding those, David Eppstein. Jmill1806 (talk) 20:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Geschichte (talk) 10:32, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy

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This article is about a re-release of the first three Ace Attorney video games, but goes against

MOS:VG#Dealing with remakes
: If you can verify enough information to write a non-stub section about the distinct reception of a video game remake, as well as a non-stub section about its distinct game development or design, then the remake will qualify for its own article. [...] If there is not enough distinct information on the remake for a complete article, the few distinct aspects of the remake should be covered in the original game's article.

As is, the article's development section is massively padded with things such as release dates, what date the release dates were announced on, what news publication the release dates were announced through, what date the trailer was revealed, and so on, giving it the false appearance at first glance of a well developed section... but no actual development information. As such, I recommend that we redirect this to List of Ace Attorney media#Compilations, with relevant reception information covered in the series article and/or our articles on the individual games. AlexandraIDV 02:31, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Speedy keep You yourself said If you can verify enough information to write a non-stub section about the distinct reception of a video game remake, as well as a non-stub section about its distinct game development or design... the article has such a thing with a potentially vast reception section due to the many, many distinct reviews of the Trilogy collection. I see this as a clearly distinct game from the Nintendo GBA/DS versions, with the art having been totally remade and gameplay features added. Also, this qualifies as
    WP:WRONGFORUM as I can never imagine this actually being deleted, even if it was redirected.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 09:53, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep per reasoning by
    MOS:VG#Dealing with remakes. I have concerns however about the soundtrack section. Is it really necessary to pad the article out with a full track list? I believe the current MOS guidelines tend to discourage a comprehensive listing of tracks unless there is significant coverage about that aspect of the subject? Haleth (talk) 05:53, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Merge if the meaningful content can comfortably fit into the other articles about the series, otherwise keep without the padding mentioned in above posts. Unless I’m quite mistaken, this is little more than a port with no significant changes beyond making it fit larger screens, so merging would be preferable. —96.8.24.95 (talk) 15:14, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd call totally remade graphics, totally redone UI and added gameplay features significant changes. I agree that if it was just 1:1 with the Nintendo DS version, like the WiiWare one, it wouldn't be worth an article.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:02, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep due to coverage in reliable secondary sources separate of the original games. This version has attracted a reception of its own and is easily cited. Not that metacritic should be the only standard but it shows numerous publications treating it as its own entity. There are sufficient distinct aspects about this topic. It can't hurt to
    WP:IMPROVE how the articles relate to each other through headings and blue links. Jontesta (talk) 15:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Weak keep: I think the situation is comparable to BioShock: The Collection and Borderlands: The Handsome Collection, both of these articles survive till now. The difference between this and a simple remake perhaps lie with it being a compilation game that bundles several games together, forcing reviewers to review them again. However, the article needs to demonstrate a stronger case for why this couldn't exist as a section in the parent Ace Attorney article. OceanHok (talk) 15:30, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above This is definitely an encyclopedic article that fits in very well with all other existing articles. Ambrosiawater (talk) 05:28, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quintus Caecilius Metellus (tribune)

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There's no evidence for the existence of the person which matches the biographical details given in the article. The page was created in 2007 by a now banned user, using an unreliable source which somebody later removed.

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EDIT: there is actually a vaguely-sourced bit which was later added by an IP, but the information pertains to the similarly-named Quintus Caecilius Metellus Nepos (consul 57 BC), of which an article already exists.

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The long version

There are four claims in this stub of an article:

  1. Q. Metellus (using the short version of his name) is a plebeian tribune
  2. Q. Metellus is the son of Q. Metellus Creticus
  3. He adopted Q. Metellus Creticus Silanus
  4. He participated on Mark Anthony's side in the Battle of Actium.

The first claim has been addressed: there is no reliable source for it. The fourth claim is a bit trickier: Appian (B.C. iv.42.173) tells of a Caecilius Metellus who fought under Octavian/Augustus at Actium, who successfully pleaded for the life of his father, who had fought on the other side. However, there are no further solid facts about either person, such as their complete names. This hasn't stopped experts from speculation (e.g. that Caecilius Metellus the Younger from Actium was the same person as a proconsul of Sardinia in AD 6), but these inferences need to be clearly labelled as inferences & speculation, not facts.

This period is full of inferences & speculation. Often one secondary source will state A is the son (or brother, or otherwise a relation) of B, but further research will show that this relationship is inferred from something admittedly shaky such as similar names -- or even simple hand-waving. And sometimes the discovery of a new inscription or a papyrus document will upset all of the theories & force us to accept a prevously discarded one.

Ronald Syme in his The Augustan Aristocracy (pp. 190, 253) has a stemma of the children of Q. Metellus Creticus which includes 2 sons -- a Quintus & a Marcus -- which he indicates are hypothetical. (He doesn't provide any information why he thinks these 2 men existed.) Here claim 2 is confirmed; could he be the subject of this article? Maybe. But the rule about notability comes into play, since at most what we can say is that he existed, & notability is not inherited.

This stemma, which relies on a paper T.P. Wiseman published in Latomus in 1965 [32], also shows Creticus's hypothetical son Marcus with a hypothetical son Quintus, who is identified as Creticus Silanus' adoptive father. (Confirming claim 3.) Could this be the subject of the article under discussion? Again, notability is not inherited.

(A warning: yes, the two secondary sources I cited are over thirty years old. But the material they discussed hasn't changed in that time; what I am doing here is relying on their expert experience. And Syme is widely considered a far more intelligent scholar of ancient Rome than most who have come after him. His opinions cannot be discarded simply because he lived so long ago.)

Maybe the content of this article is invented out of thin air, or maybe it confuses details from two or more people. At this point, we can't say. To repeat myself, this is a mess & the best solution would be to delete this article & add all theories about the connection between Quintus Caecilius Metellus Creticus & Quintus Caecilius Metellus Creticus Silanus to the existing relevant articles. -- llywrch (talk) 17:57, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it is not a hoax, but since the article mixes elements from several people without source, I don't think it is worth saving. T8612 (talk) 21:00, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It could be a hoax, or not one; its creator is no longer active at Wikipedia, so his motivation cannot be learned. But you T8612 & I are agreed it is a mess & should be deleted; the only possible point of debate (as I understand) is whether all verifiable information should be added to the articles on Creticus & Creticus Silanus now or after the article is deleted. -- llywrch (talk) 06:28, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Model A (band)

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Looks to fail

WP:BEFORE search brings up this. I found one more short piece in a "local bands" review, but everything else seems to be for band saws and tractors. Looks like one of those underground bands that never got coverage beyond the local level. Hog Farm Bacon 00:40, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Ganzfeld

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No evidence this was a notable art magazine. Reference one might establish notability for the founders, but it's not sufficiently in depth to establish notability. Note: lots of false ghits due to the science term & associated publication. StarM 00:25, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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