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Hey, would you mind polishing your tone regarding your comments about IMDb? I'm worried that we're scaring off the editor. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 00:56, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

@Erik: I understand the concern, but did you see the editor's comments on Lugnuts' page? I never really know how to deal with stubbornness at that level, because they're basically ignoring everything presented to them and latching on to the word "tertiary". The argument had gotten circular, and once it gets to that point, I tend to drop the fluff and cut through the shit. I agree I could've been a bit nicer in my first paragraph, and I'll definitely be conscious of that in the future, but that's a reposting of a comment I made on Lugnuts' page. I stick by the thought that the argument is pointless and the fact that the user misread the sources he used, and I don't really see a reason to beat around the bush further. Sock (tock talk) 13:13, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

I would say if the editor persists in looking for a different answer, then I would bring up

focus on content. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me}

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You're right. I've started adapting the tone I end up having to take at work on here, and I don't think those two things quite line up. A big part of the reason I stepped back from editing here was because I'd grown impatient, and it seems that's still a bit of an issue. Thanks for calling me on it, genuinely. Sock (tock talk) 14:13, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

@Erik: Forgot this. Sock (tock talk) 18:35, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

No worries! I have to do that myself too. It's easy to speak from experience but harder to convey the "why" based on that. We may deal with the same problem over and over, but for each new person, it would be their first problem. So maybe for IMDb, we need to get the wording across a little better (especially the "tertiary" bit). Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:45, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, in regards to the edits about supporting Roman Polanski on the Tarantino page, this source (https://jezebel.com/heres-audio-of-quentin-tarantino-defending-roman-polans-1822745916) includes this:

“He didn’t rape a 13-year-old. It was statutory rape...he had sex with a minor. That’s not rape. To me, when you use the word rape, you’re talking about violent, throwing them down—it’s like one of the most violent crimes in the world. You can’t throw the word rape around. It’s like throwing the word ‘racist’ around. It doesn’t apply to everything people use it for.”

Reminded by Robin Quivers that Polanski’s victim—who had been plied with quaaludes and alcohol before her assault—did not want to have sex with Polanski, Tarantino became riled up.

Tarantino: No, that was not the case AT ALL. She wanted to have it and dated the guy and—"

If I used this source, would I be able to point out that he falsely recounted the case, or does it also not count because the article doesn't directly state that he presented false information?

Thanks. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 15:41, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the catch on BP! - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:14, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@Favre1fan93: Haha, no problem. It made for a good chuckle. Sock (tock talk) 20:25, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Just wanted to say: Thank you for the kind words. I try hard to help improve Wikipedia, and it means a lot to me that good editors like yourself take notice. Your words are much appreciated.--Tenebrae (talk) 21:13, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

@Tenebrae: No problem at all. I've seen you here for as long as I've actively participated in conversation for film articles, and I've seen all the hard work you do. I wouldn't have stood for someone saying that about an editor I'd never seen before, but I certainly wasn't going to fume silently when it was someone I respect as much as you. Not that I have any doubt that you won't, but keep it up. It is very much appreciated. Sock (tock talk) 14:36, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi there,

My name is Sonia, and I write for The Washington Post. I'm interested in pursuing a story about Wikipedia users who update/edit pages detailing specific histories of the Academy Awards (e.g. "List of black Academy Award winners and nominees"). I believe you might have edited a similar page in the past, perhaps around when the nominations were announced. People who are simply curious often end up on these informative pages, and I believe our readers might find it interesting to hear the story behind the quick edits — are there some Wikipedia users who wait for the nominations to be announced and then update the pages immediately? How do you keep track of all the history? And so on.

If you'd be interested in chatting with me, please let me know. I can be reached at [email protected].

Thanks! Sonia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soniarao (talk • contribs) 15:24, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hey, Sock. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Chris Troutman (talk) 15:01, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Hey Sock. Not sure if you have been busy or not and no pressure or anything but do you think you will be able to get back to the Barbarella review soon? :) I know you have been busy and you can take all the time you need. Just figured I'd check in to see what the situation is. Hope all is well. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:16, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: I think I'm living in some revisionist history because I would've sworn I already finished that review. I even remember typing it out, so maybe I didn't save it or maybe I dreamt it, who knows. Sorry about that! I've actually marked it on my calendar to do tonight and tomorrow (in case tonight doesn't work out). Thanks for being patient! Sock (tock talk) 15:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

No worries. Take your time! Glad we cleared it up. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:23, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Hey sock, I went through most of the article and believe I've fixed up about 75% of it at least. The rest I'm not sure what to make-of. My main issues are for the release information, is that getting detailed (let alone accurate) information on non-American genre films and their release is a pretty tricky subject. I've narrowed it down to a month which more than most sources can state, but if I can confirm a French release date being before or after the New York premiere, I'll add it. As for the remake information, most remakes are announced to great hub-ub then usually filter away. The Rodriguez one got closest to being made it seems which explains the extra info, but the others are relatively obscure and never seem to get much information outside of an announcement made. It's pretty much all I could find. See my Black Sabbath article for similar issues. It also had an announcement of a remake!...in 2004. Then nothing! Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:43, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello again Sock! I think I covered most of what you wanted for the Barbarella article and had some questions as well. Would you be able to take a look at the GA-review page this week? :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:56, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: Gonna be checking this over tonight, fear not. Not gonna make you wait a month this time. Sock (tock talk) 21:52, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I think I've followed-up with everything. Happy to tackle other things, or fix up anything I may have missed out on. Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:45, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Hey sock! Any chance on taking a look at the Barbarella article again|? I think I've covered everything. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:06, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: Gonna get this done during my lunch today. At a cursory glance, it's looking like we'll finally be promoting this bad boy. Again, I can't apologize enough for how scattered my availability has been. I make a good 90% of my edits on my phone at this point, so I don't even see the talk page messages. Sock (tock talk) 18:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Ah no worries! And great news! Hope all is well. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:26, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

It wasn't deleted because regular editors can only swap two existing pages, not move one and delete the other. Might be more fitting to use {{

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AlexTheWhovian: Ah, gotcha. I didn't mean to imply I thought you'd made a mistake, I thought it just bugged honestly. Thanks for the info! Sock (tock talk)

10:07, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

No problems. If the redirect hadn't existed, then yes, we could have moved it while suppressing the redirect. Good work on the article! --

^TW

10:09, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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AlexTheWhovian: Thanks! It was a bitch, but oddly enjoyable. Thanks for the help! Sock (tock talk)

10:13, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

On

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Your edits here removed information that was supported by the sources within the paragraph. Please be sure to check before removing information from an article, particularly when it's on the main page. Thanks, ceranthor 23:23, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Ceranthor: I usually am, I only removed information that was marked as "citation needed" that honestly came off as borderline slanderous if unsourced. That's my mistake for not double checking the source there, apologies for that. Sock (tock talk) 05:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Will you be returning here? Ribbet32 (talk) 16:35, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

@Ribbet32: I blame mobile Wikipedia for not pinging me, as I've barely been editing from the site lately. Looking now! Sock (tock talk) 15:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Hey, I hope this isn't the wrong place to ask this, but I'm wondering why you reverted it. ~~Craiko~~

@

WP:ALBUMAVOID, based on several previous discussions. If you can find third party coverage of his review's relevance, it can certainly be added. Thanks for contacting! Sock (tock talk)

16:14, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sock. I note that you are a member of the Documentary films task force of WikiProject Film. There is currently a discussion on Talk:Vaxxed spawned from my edit request that attempted to add the genre label "documentary" to the opening sentence of the article, as the Manual of Style requests.

Unfortunately for some reason editors seem to neither believe the film is a documentary, nor will they consider removing it from Category:Pseudoscience documentary films. In my view this makes the article contradict itself. I was hoping as a member of the Documentary films task force you would be best placed to provide a justification for whether a film is indeed a documentary or not, and thus what categories and genre labels are appropriate for this article. Thanks. --85.211.212.153 (talk) 20:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

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About your revert of my edits on Template:Kanye West songs

First of all, remixes are classified as 'songs' too. Secondly, you erased more than remixes from the songs template anyway, so please don't erase either of these in the future.

@Kyle Peake: First of all, I didn't revert your edit. Your edit was reverted to the previous version edited by me by user Binksternet. Please discuss with that user about the revert.

Secondly, simply saying "this is right because I say so" is not an argument. You don't

own

that template. And I agree with the removal; I think the remixes make the template bloated. Again though, not my revert.

And finally, sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) so users can easily see who they're speaking to. Sock (tock talk) 14:55, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

@Sock: I never used the "this is right because I say so" argument nor did I claim ownership of anything. Unless you can prove me wrong, then remixes are songs as well.

Kyle Peake (talk) 06:58, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: You ignored the key part, which is that I didn't revert your edit. I'm not going to revert it further. Please discuss with Binksternet. Sock (tock talk) 07:15, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Category:American films

Please note that per the category's description, all American films should be added to this category regardless of whether they are also in subcategories. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

@Doniago: I even checked the main page to see if I was missing something but apparently I couldn't read last night. Sorry about that! Sock (tock talk) 16:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

No worries! Happens to the best of us. :) DonIago (talk) 16:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

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Hey Sock, I remember sometime back that you and I were editing the cast and characters section of a television series article and you pointed out that it was redundant to list a character twice when someone played a younger version of that character in a guest appearance or a recurring role. That sounded like a pretty logical argument to me and I've been following it on other television articles that I have edited since. I've been running into a bit of trouble over on the article for Manifest where one editor keeps moving a younger appearance of a character to the guest section and out of the paragraph for the character that already exists in the main section. I was hoping you'd take a look at it if you have the time. Sincerely, BoogerD (talk) 20:30, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Heads up, I just went ahead and made the change again. Hopefully it sticks. – BoogerD (talk) 20:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

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